1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamsons 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly here with 5 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and Matt we got last night. We 6 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: were here at live a training camp yep, yep, yep, 7 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: Saint Pencil College. Your Steelers will not field today, Yeah, 8 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 2: not practicing until later today. They have Friday night lights 9 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 2: and Matt we get to see the initial use of 10 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: the kickoff roll last night. 11 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Hall of Fame game, and I didn't study 12 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 3: it closely. I was at Sharky's. But every time with 13 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 3: the pursuito and those shocking shocker absolutely, but every time 14 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 3: it's a kickoff, we'd all alert each other, Hey let's watch, 15 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 3: let's watch. And it was very uneventful, to be honest. 16 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 3: There were like three of them, I think where the 17 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 3: returner actually slipped and fell, and then the pouring rain 18 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 3: came down and the game got canceled eventually too, so 19 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 3: I'm sure the field wasn't great. I didn't see anything again, 20 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 3: just the first blush of strange fun kickoff stuff. 21 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 2: Well, nobody's gonna show anything crazy in the pre but 22 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: you did want to see how the mechanics worked. That 23 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 2: There were eight kickoffs total in the game. The longest 24 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 2: of the eight was returned to the thirty one yard line. 25 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 2: Three were brought back to the twenty six. One was 26 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: a touchback that came out to the thirty. The average 27 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: starting position on those kicks was the twenty five point six. 28 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 3: Okay, and again there wasn't I didn't really even see 29 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 3: a returner get free, you know, I mean it was 30 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 3: pretty much swallowed up right away. Not a lot to 31 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 3: go off of with that. I don't know if you 32 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 3: caught this or not, though we were laughing about it 33 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 3: like crazy it was. I mean, yes, it rained later, 34 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 3: but they practiced the Charlie Brown holding the kickoff trick. 35 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 3: Each team did it once with the punter came out 36 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 3: held it just to practice it, I guess. And all 37 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 3: I did was hold it and ran off like it. 38 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 3: Really probably didn't need repped to say the least. 39 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't think so, because your punters are usually 40 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: I actually asked uh Cameron Johnston about that when I 41 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: spoke to him last week. I'm like, are you going 42 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: to be the holder on the on the kickoffs, and 43 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 2: he said, no, we really haven't talked about that yet, 44 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,399 Speaker 2: but I would assume that's the natural makes sense. 45 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 3: They're both punters. We were wondering about that too, because 46 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 3: they can't get into play. They are holders in the 47 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 3: real world. I guess there's some art to it holding 48 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 3: it on a tee, but I have feeling you and 49 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 3: I could do just fine at that as well. 50 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 2: When the XFL they used the official one of the 51 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: officials came out and held it really which, as you 52 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 2: can imagine, if you're not used to doing. 53 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 3: That, you're like and the finger away. I'm pretty sre 54 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 3: you're worried about getting kicked. Yeah, right, it is a 55 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 3: little scary. I'm sure to be that close to someone 56 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 3: swinging their leg that hard. Do you know if, like 57 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 3: all the week one ones are going to practice it too. 58 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 3: I have no idea the idea. I have no idea. 59 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. I found it funny that because it's such an 60 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: easy track, that may have been something at the league 61 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 2: told them, hey, let's let's get a look at this 62 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 2: just to see what the mechanics look like. Each team 63 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 2: should do it and see what it looks like, because 64 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 2: that's I mean that's that's only been a rule now 65 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 2: for a little over a week. Yeah, before that, they 66 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 2: were going to use the kicking stick, and they decided 67 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 2: they send out a memo to all the teams a 68 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 2: week ago that no, we're going to have a player 69 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: come out and hold the ball and then he's got 70 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 2: to run off to the sideline right all. 71 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, to be honest, I mean, just kickoff rule stuff. 72 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 3: I'm much more interested what the Steelers have done here 73 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 3: in terms of who's out there and et cetera, than 74 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 3: what I saw last night. But I'm hoping, you know, 75 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 3: over the course of the preseason we see some cool 76 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 3: stuff or some wrinkles or frankly, some glitches, you know, 77 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 3: that then the rules that no one thought about, and 78 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 3: see how it goes from there. But I keep coming 79 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 3: back to starting to drive at the thirty for a defense. 80 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 3: Isn't that terrible of a penalty for screwing things up? 81 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 3: You know, if you're bad at coverage, just blasted out 82 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 3: of the end zone for now. 83 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: You know, the problem is that at some points you're 84 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: going to have to cover it. Yeah, yeah, because at 85 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 2: some points you're gonna play even if you're the Detroit 86 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: Lions for example, and you play the game fifteen of 87 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: your games indoors, well, at some point you're gonna have 88 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 2: to go to Green Ban in Chicago. Yeah, and you 89 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 2: better be able to handle the kickoffs because if be 90 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 2: in San Francisco, you're not gonna be able to kick 91 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 2: the ball through the end zone. Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, 92 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: that's definitely a good point. 93 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 3: What I should know this, but what is the penalty 94 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 3: for just blasting it out of bouts because of the 95 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 3: fourty Okay, that hasn't changed. That's that's different. I mean 96 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 3: then that's way more of a penalty. That makes sense 97 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 3: to me. Yeah, okay, yeah, I mean it's still a 98 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 3: work in progress. I found it interesting the other day though, 99 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 3: of who the Steelers were putting on their kickoff and 100 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 3: kickoff coverage teams. 101 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, I do think that a lot of 102 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 2: people aren't going to a lot of teams. Just again, 103 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: if you're in the Northeast or you're in the Midwest 104 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 2: and you're playing in weather conditions, you're not gonna be 105 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 2: able to just blast the ball out of the end 106 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: zone every time A cant right, So. 107 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 3: What if you blasted into the end zone? I mean, yeah, 108 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 3: I think you could probably get to the goal line. 109 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 2: Most of the time, you'll probably get a return, though. 110 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 3: You'll probably get a return. Yeah, it's still work in progress. 111 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 3: It is an interesting topic. I didn't get a whole 112 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 3: lot out of last night to think differently about it 113 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:16,679 Speaker 3: than I did the day before, though, to be honest 114 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 3: with you. 115 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, Steelers. Of course, we'll have their annual Friday night 116 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 2: lights practice tonight. And as we see here there, they're 117 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 2: taking the time, the field crew here taking the time 118 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 2: to reline the fields. Yeah, here at Saint Vincent College, 119 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 2: and uh. 120 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 3: It's amazing how much happens behind the scenes, especially on 121 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 3: a day like this. 122 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 2: They're probably loving it for the field. Yeah. Get a 123 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: couple of days off of the field here to allow 124 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 2: the grass to kind of recover a little bit. And 125 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: we had a good amount of rain yesterday, Yeah, that 126 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 2: we needed. 127 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 3: Still, I don't know if we're out of the woods 128 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,119 Speaker 3: one hundred percent for rain for tonight, I guess sus 129 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 3: the rain down, Yeah, I think it's not great. But 130 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 3: if you plan on going, keep an eye on that. 131 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 3: I mean, they wouldn't move it, right. I think a 132 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 3: couple of years ago it got flat out canceled because 133 00:05:59,640 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 3: of rain. 134 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was it. That was the torential downpour. 135 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 2: I mean that was like I remember, we were stuck 136 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: on a bus for about forty five minutes before they 137 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 2: finally called it. And at that point we all got 138 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 2: off the bus and your had We were stuck over 139 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 2: by the gym for another forty five minutes because it 140 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 2: was just because you couldn't even walk across campus, okay, 141 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 2: And that was when Wolf decided to actually brave it 142 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 2: and come across it. I do remember this story. And 143 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 2: the skunk came up and he didn't see He had 144 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: his head down because he's going walking through the rain, 145 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 2: and he didn't see the skunk until he was right 146 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 2: on top of the skunk. And then they did a 147 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: little dance where he would he took three steps back, 148 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 2: and the skunk took three steps forward, and then Wolf 149 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 2: would take three more steps back, and the skunk took 150 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 2: a step back and Wolf would step And that went 151 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 2: off for like five minutes. Gave you guys something to 152 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 2: laugh about it. We were laughing like crazy, yeah, And 153 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 2: then Wolf did the right thing and brought his car 154 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 2: around and picked us all up and drove at what 155 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 2: a good Samaritan. 156 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I figured it he'd be you know, I would 157 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 3: have thought he would want to brave the elements with 158 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 3: his lightning situation. 159 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 2: But there was no lightning. It was just a poor 160 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 2: just pouring ring, pouring. 161 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 3: From what I checked the weather port like an hour ago. 162 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 3: It doesn't look like it's going to be that bad. 163 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 3: But it does look like it's going to be wet 164 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 3: and sloppy. And that's not a field or field, right, 165 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 3: it's a no, it's. 166 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 2: A natural grass. Yeah. Okay. Matt Russ Tucker on the 167 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 2: thirty third team, Yeah, has put together his offensive line 168 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 2: rankings in tears. He was my podcast co host way 169 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 2: before you back in the day. Yeah, well get the 170 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 2: better of that now. Yeah. Uh so anyways, line ranks, Okay, Yeah, 171 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: let's take a look at this. Uh he's got it. 172 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 2: Thirty two of the New York Giants. 173 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 3: Oh, I think that's too rough. I mean they were 174 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 3: horrendous last year, but they went out and signed two 175 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 3: starters and runing in illumin or. I mean they're not 176 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 3: great players, but I think they now have five starters 177 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 3: where they didn't last year. 178 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: So here's what he what he has. Andrew Thomas Aaron Stinney, 179 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 2: John Michael Schman, it's John Runyon, Jermaine Iluminur. 180 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 3: Okay, see, I think that there's a good chance Neil 181 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 3: was the right tackle. He's been really bad, and Illuminour 182 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:08,679 Speaker 3: replaces Stinny. 183 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 2: Okay, at thirty one, he has the New Orleans Saints, 184 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 2: how about I've seen. 185 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 3: Them at the bottom with a couple of ranks, and 186 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 3: the more you dig into it, I think Ramchack officially retired. 187 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 3: He's out for the season. Out for the season at least. Okay, 188 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 3: there was some debate about that a couple of weeks ago. 189 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 3: If you go left to right, it's not that pretty, 190 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 3: to say the least. 191 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 2: Talisi Fluagga, who is a right tackle in college? Yeah, 192 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 2: Lucas Patrick, Eric McCoy, Caesar Luiz, Trevor Penning. Penning's been 193 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 2: really bad. 194 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 3: We both loved Fuaga, but he just doesn't seem like 195 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 3: a left to me in traditional sense. 196 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 2: I wonder if they had a better sense of this 197 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 2: going into the draft, of what Armstep was going to do, 198 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 2: if they would have drafted a true left tackle instead. 199 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 3: Well, Ramchicks, Ramcheck's all right, I know, But to me, 200 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 3: when they took f Wagga, I'm like, well, Ramcheck's not 201 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 3: gonna be back. 202 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, But the problem is Penning. It's been so bad. 203 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's what's gum and everything up is 204 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 3: They're gonna put him on the right because he was 205 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 3: so bad on the left. 206 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 2: But that can make you worse than two spots. Yeah, 207 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 2: I think that. I mean they I think if they 208 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 2: had it all to do all over again, they probably 209 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 2: take a guy whos that I mean, I like, yeah, yeah, yeah, 210 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: but they probably take a true left. 211 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 3: It would be better off. Yeah, I mean absolutely, And 212 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 3: their guards are bad. 213 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 2: At thirty, the Seattle Seahawks's Charles Cross Lake and Tomlinson, 214 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: olatwamieh Anthony Bradford, and Abraham Lucas. 215 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 3: So everyone was all excited about Cross and Lucas as 216 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 3: rookies two years ago. Lucas the fourth round pick that's 217 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 3: come back to earth and is now a borderline starter. 218 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 3: He was fine early on. Cross still looks like a 219 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 3: good prospect and he's definitely their best player. But he's 220 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 3: not very strong. He deals with he doesn't deal with 221 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 3: power very well, and the inside's not great. I know 222 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 3: you just said it, but did they include Haines from 223 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 3: Yukon they do not. I bet he takes one of 224 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 3: those guard spots, one of the spots, but that that's 225 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 3: a team. 226 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 2: The rest of it's still a mess. You know. The 227 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 2: Steelers have a a excess of good linemen there. Yeah, 228 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 2: that again, you know you start talking about trade possibilities, 229 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: that's one that that one really stands out. Ye, it 230 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 2: was two or three days ago. 231 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 3: I just I mean, I'm not trying to start rumors 232 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 3: or anything like that, but James Daniels in a third 233 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 3: for DK Metcalf, You're like, I could see Seattle going. 234 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: That makes sense to me. You know. Twenty nine are 235 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: the Patriots chucks or poor for it? Left tackle Cole Strange, 236 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 2: David Andrews, City sal and Mike Owen. 237 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 3: It sounds like Chukes is going to do battle with 238 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 3: the other Penn State rookie tackle who's also right turned left, 239 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 3: which is a theme of this rookie class. Yeah, the 240 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 3: one who has to play tackle, but he would be 241 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 3: a really good guard. And Cole Strange has not lived 242 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 3: up the first round billing at all, which none of 243 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 3: us thought you should have first und picked to we 244 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 3: go with. 245 00:10:56,040 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the poor group tier Patriots might be last year. 246 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 2: They're pretty bad. Yeah. At the next tier up here 247 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 2: you get at twenty eight the Arizona Cardinals, Paris Johnson, 248 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 2: Isaiah Adams, Heise Froholt, will Hernandez, Jonah Williams. 249 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 3: Fro Holts better than people think. I mean, he is 250 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 3: no pedigree and no one knows about the Cardinals centers. 251 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 3: The guards are bad. Neither one of us love Joonah 252 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 3: Williams in Cincinnati, but he's a starter. 253 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 2: You know. The other thing is they at least have depth. 254 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 3: They've brought in three or four young guys that are 255 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 3: you know, you're going to be in the mix. 256 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 2: At twenty seven is Washington. They might be last for me, 257 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 2: Cornelius Lucas at left tackle, Nick Alaghretti, Tyler Biadas, Sam Cosme, 258 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 2: and Andrew Wiley. 259 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 3: So who's I should know? My head the o lion 260 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 3: expert out there that does really good work. He said it, Well, 261 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 3: he's like Tyler Biadish is a nice pickup, but he 262 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 3: should be your fourth best starter like he was in Dallas, 263 00:11:58,240 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 3: not your first. 264 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's okay, that's another team that could certainly use. 265 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 2: I bet there's another pick back or yeah. Uh, twenty 266 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 2: six to Tennessee Titans. That's a J. C. Latham, another 267 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 2: left right tackle turn the left, Peter Skeronsky, Lloyd Cushion Berry, 268 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 2: Daniel Brunskill, and Nicholas petite Freere. That right side's bad. Yeah. 269 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 3: Scornsky really struggled as a rookie. And I don't mean 270 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 3: to make this as a Roman Wilson comparison, but he 271 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 3: had an ankle like this time of year in camp 272 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 3: and was always trying to get on a moving train 273 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 3: and never quite was able to. But they were probably 274 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 3: last last year. At least they're going in the right 275 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 3: direction and they hired a good o' line coach. 276 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 2: Twenty five the Carolina Panthers. It's uh Ekwanu, Damian Lewis, 277 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 2: Austin Colbert, Robert Hunt, and Taylor Moten. The right side 278 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:48,719 Speaker 2: should be good. 279 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Ikey needs to be a player. Yeah, I 280 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 3: mean that's he's kind of like Penning. You invest a 281 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 3: lot in these early first round picks and they're not 282 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 3: giving you anything back. The guard's a overspent on, but 283 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 3: they now have a legit pair of guards. 284 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 2: Twenty four is Jacksonville, Cam Robinson, Ezra Cleveland, Mitch Moore's 285 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 2: Brandon Shurf Andton Harrison. I don't see the stars the 286 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 2: Anton Harrison that Like I've seen people who like, there 287 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 2: was a redraft that we did a couple of weeks 288 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 2: ago on here and there were there was on the 289 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 2: redraft they had Anton Harrison going before Broderick Jones and 290 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 2: the tackle of Paris Johnson. No, Paris Johnson went had him, 291 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 2: but the tight the tackle from my right, right right, 292 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, are you kidding me? Yeah? Right, I don't 293 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 2: see that. I mean, he may be a fine he's 294 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,599 Speaker 2: probably the best guy. But that's why the rank or 295 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 2: they are. And I agree with the ranking twenty three 296 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 2: the Miami dolphinsh I agree with that. Tron Armstead, Isa Win, 297 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 2: Aaron Brewer, Robert Jones, and Austin Jackson. 298 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 3: Austin Jackson is a problem left tackle. Is a really 299 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 3: good player Armstead, but he's played ten games a year. Yeah, right, 300 00:13:58,679 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 3: I don't love the center. 301 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 2: Brewer. He was one of those free agents that change teams. 302 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 2: He's like two hundred and ninety pounds. He's okay, Yeah, 303 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 2: that's the below average tier. Moving up from that, you 304 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 2: have Tampa Bay. That's Tristram Wurf's Ben Bretterson, Graham Barton, 305 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 2: Cody Mott and Luke Getke. 306 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 3: So Wurf's like a trooper. Was one of the best 307 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 3: right tackles in the league this time last year. They 308 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 3: moved him to left. He didn't skip a beat and 309 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 3: he's got a massive contract a couple days ago which 310 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 3: allowed get g to be his natural right tackle spot, 311 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 3: and so they got they firmed up two spots with that. 312 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 3: If Barton's what they're cracked up to be, then they 313 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 3: should be fine. 314 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 2: Twenty one. The Raiders, you got Colton Miller, Jackson Powers, Johnson, 315 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: Andre James, Dylan Parham, and Thayer Mumford. The right side 316 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 2: was bothered. 317 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a lot like the Titans, where the center 318 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 3: to left tackle looks pretty solid and there's some star 319 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 3: power there and some youth, but the right side would 320 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 3: worry me. 321 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 2: That's another one that maybe you could probably a receiver 322 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 2: off of them. Yeah, by Dang a interior offensive lineman 323 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 2: to day. I would think the forty nine ers at 324 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 2: number twenty agreed. Trent Williams, Aaron Banks, Jake Brindle, John 325 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: Feliciano no resation relation to Jose and Colton mckivitz. I 326 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 2: don't believe there's a Jose Feliciano connection there. I don't 327 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 2: think so. 328 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Trent Williams is awesome. He's holding out, he's old, 329 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 3: but he's awesome. There's been a lot of talk that Pooney, 330 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 3: the rookie out of Kansas, could take one of the 331 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 3: guard spots, but it's the Miami Shanahan, you know, McDaniel. 332 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 2: We don't care about the offensive line, right Yeah, I'll 333 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 2: scheme it up and give me one really good left tackle. 334 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 2: At nineteen the Cowboys, they fallen quite a bit, Tyler Guiton, 335 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 2: Tyler Smith, brock Hoffman, Zach Martin, Terrence Steele. 336 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 3: From what I understand, it's kind of like the Steeler situation. 337 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 3: Geyiton and Beebee was a third round pick that they're 338 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 3: projecting as a center. 339 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 2: Neither are yet running with the ones they're hoping that 340 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 2: they do, but they need them more than the Steelers 341 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 2: do right now. Too. Yeah, they've they probably the best 342 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 2: at the guards in the league though at eighteen the 343 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens, they probably were like five last year though 344 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 2: you looking at Ronnie Stanley, Andrew Voorhee's, Tyler Linderbaum, Ben Cleveland, 345 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 2: Roger Rosengarten. 346 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 3: I still probably would have him lower. Although there aren't 347 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 3: many lines I'd say they have blown my doors off 348 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 3: that we've discussed. Yeah, yeah, but that's a big area concern. 349 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 3: That's counting on Ronnie Stantle. 350 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 2: Like every every year, this time of year, this is 351 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 2: Ronnie Stanley looks great. Yeah, he looks like he's back 352 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 2: from his injury. Talked to me at Halloween. Yeah, right, 353 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 2: and then you have five games into the season he's 354 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: out there, you know, playing half the snaps. Yeah. 355 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 3: The one thing they do have is even nice six 356 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 3: man and McCarry that he can fill in a lot 357 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 3: of spots, but he's a six man. 358 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 2: He's a six man. Yeah. Seventeen Houston, Laramie Tunsell, Kenyon Green, 359 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 2: Juice Scruggs, Shaq Mason, Titus Howard, Kenny Green has not 360 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 2: lived up to be in a first round guard. I 361 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 2: mean usually usually those hit. Yeah. 362 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 3: They were the most injureda line in the league last year, 363 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 3: so I could see them taking a big step forward. 364 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 2: Sixteen is Cincinnati Orlando Brown, Cordell Volson, Ted Carris, Alex Kappa, 365 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 2: Trent Brown. 366 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 3: With a rookie and mimes. He got way yesterday. Oh 367 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 3: did he really he did. They took him to the hospital. 368 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 3: So they're massive. I think their interior is very average. 369 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, uh, I hear the about MEMS. Fifteen 370 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 2: is Denver, Garrett Bowles, Ben Powers, Sam Mustafer, Quinn Miners 371 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 2: and Mike McGlinchey. 372 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 3: They're all about run blocking. Miners is a star in 373 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,719 Speaker 3: the making and he's got paid accordingly. But like Cleveland 374 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 3: and McGlinchey, I mean, they're all big bangers. Those of 375 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 3: the guys Peyton Went and got I don't know if 376 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 3: i'd be that high on Denver either. Fourteen is been 377 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 3: for centers are bad. 378 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, Deon Dawkins, David Edwards, Connor McGovern, Cyrus I'm sorry, 379 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 2: O Cyrus Torrance, and Spencer Brown. 380 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 3: This seems to me like when you're getting to be 381 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 3: average or above, you know, like this group's pretty solid. 382 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 3: They've invested a fair amount in into their you know, 383 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 3: and I've been mentioning this for years. I think they're 384 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 3: finally realizing that they played football in Buffalo. Yeah, and 385 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 3: you know they're starting to go get O Cyrus Torrens, 386 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 3: who's three hundred and forty pounds in those type of guys. 387 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 2: At thirteen, the Los Angeles Chargers, Sean Slater, Zion Johnson, 388 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 2: Bradley Boseman, Trey Pipkin's Joe Alt. You want it to 389 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 2: be higher than that, Yeah, I mean considering that you 390 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 2: spent multiple first round draft point picks on that line. Unfortunately, Lindsay, 391 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 2: the center has hard issues, and you know that was 392 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 2: somebody they had invested in and counted on. Zion Johnson 393 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 2: is another first round guard that's been okay, but you 394 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 2: would think they'd hit it by now. I mean, he 395 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 2: needs a show it this year. But they're one of 396 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 2: those them and the Steelers, or the two that I 397 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 2: think have. If I had like a pair of tackles 398 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 2: to build around Slater and Alt would be right there 399 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 2: with the two of the Steelers. Yeah. At twelve, you 400 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 2: have the Rams, Alaric Jackson, Jonah Jackson, Steve Avilla, Kevin Dotson, 401 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 2: and Rob Haven't seen. 402 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 3: It's nasty and they spent a lot on guards, probably 403 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 3: too much. Avilia then goes from guard who was good 404 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 3: as a rookie to center. He's the biggest center in 405 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 3: the league. The tackles aren't special, but they're nasty, you know. 406 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 2: At eleven, the Chicago Bears Braxton Jones, Tevin Jenkins, Ryan Bates, 407 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 2: Nate Davis, Darnell Wright. I think it's a little. 408 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 3: Kind to the Bears. I think Wright's going to be 409 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 3: a really good player and was impressive. I think the 410 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 3: interior is very ordinary. Yeah, at ten, you have the Steelers, Okay, 411 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 3: I'll take the Steelers over everyone mentioned. 412 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's projecting Roderick Jones, Isaac samalos At Fraser, James Daniels, 413 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 2: Troy Fatanuk. We haven't seen that yet, No, we haven't. 414 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 3: If the thirty three team asked me to do line 415 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 3: ranks and projected starters, I probably would do the same. 416 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 3: And I didn't click on this, But it doesn't look 417 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 3: like he's addressing depth very much. But I'll put the 418 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 3: Steelers second line O against anyone in the league. 419 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Nine is Minnesota Christian darrisaw Blake Brendle, Garrett Bradbury, 420 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:12,719 Speaker 2: ed Ingram Brian O'Neill. Eight the Green Bay Packers, Rashid Walker, 421 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 2: Elton Jenkins, Josh Myers, Jordan Morgan's a tom. 422 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 3: I wouldn't trade the Packers or Vikings whose Vikings tackles. 423 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 2: Are really good for the stealers. And that's the average tier. Okay, 424 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 2: so the average here a little bit deeper. At seven 425 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 2: are the Jets Tyron Smith, John Simpson, Joe Tipman, Elijah Vera, 426 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 2: Tucker Morgan moses it's just old fragile. Yeah, but at 427 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 2: least there's the first round picked floating in there too. 428 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 2: At six is Kansas City Kingsley Suematiah, Joe Thuney, Creed Humphrey, 429 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 2: tray Smith, Jawan Taylor. I think that line is overrated 430 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 2: at this point. I do too. 431 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 3: Left tackles a question. Right tackle did not live up 432 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 3: to the billing. 433 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. At five is Indianapolis Bernard Raymond, Quenton Nelson, r Kelly, 434 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 2: will Fries and Braden Smith. 435 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 3: Took a big step forward last year. A lot of 436 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 3: us because Raymond got a lot better. 437 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 2: Four is Atlanta Jake Matthews, Matthew Bergeron, Drew Dolman, Chris Linstrom, 438 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 2: Caleb McGarry. 439 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 3: More geared towards run blocking than protection, but it might 440 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 3: be the best run blocking line of the league. 441 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 2: Three is Cleveland Jedrick Willis, Joel Patonio, Ethon post White, Taylor, 442 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 2: Jack Conklin. I tend to think the arrow is going down, 443 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 2: but they also have to want Jones floating around there too. Yeah. 444 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 2: Two is Philadelphia Jordan Mattia, Landon, Dickerson, Cam Jurgens, Tyler, Steen, 445 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 2: Lane Johnson. Yeah. Man, man, they've been one forever and 446 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 2: now that Kelsey. That's the above average tier, and you 447 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 2: have the elite tier is Detroit Taylor, Decker, Graham, Glasgow, 448 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 2: Frank Ragnow, Kevin Zeitler and Penney Sewell. Yeah. 449 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 3: And they lost the guard to the Rams and replaced 450 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 3: him as Zeitler, who's fine. And they drafted too, Yeah, 451 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 3: so they'll be fine. 452 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 2: Those are Ross Tucker's offensive line. 453 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 3: Rakings, Yeah, I might have the Seilers are mid higher. Yeah, 454 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:00,719 Speaker 3: especially when its all say and done. I mean it's 455 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 3: hard to say too. Those guys aren't even starting yet, right. 456 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 3: If we're lying up today, you don't exactly know what 457 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 3: you got in then. 458 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, let's get to a break. He is the 459 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive 460 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 2: here on Steelers Nation Radio and Fox Sports Pittsburgh. We 461 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 2: are live from Steelers training camp here at Saint Fncent College. 462 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 2: We'll be back with more right after this. 463 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 464 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and 465 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio, and. 466 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 2: We are back here at Saint Vincent College. I'm Dale 467 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 2: Lolly here with de Matt Williamson, and this is the 468 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 2: Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. We're also simulcasting here on 469 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Pittsburgh the Steelers practicing later tonight over at 470 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 2: latrob Memorial Stadium. I can head in for that and 471 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 2: go get the it's always good invite ticket, Yes, fireworks afterwards, 472 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 2: the whole deal. It's a fun time. It is, so 473 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 2: Matt five for Friday today, I made a note of 474 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 2: the kicking of Cameron Johnston. It's been super impressive, it 475 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 2: really is. And so I went back and I looked 476 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 2: at the net average, the franchise best net average or 477 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 2: you know, gross average, I should say, a player or 478 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 2: for a punter in the history of the Steelers. 479 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 3: Hasn't been their strongest position over the year, has not. 480 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 3: So Bobby Joe Green not to be confused with Joe Green, Yeah, 481 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 3: unfortunate name for Steeler Lore. 482 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 2: Averaged forty five point seven yards per kick over twenty 483 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 2: six games in nineteen sixty and nineteen sixty one. That's 484 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 2: the best for anybody who's kicked in more than ten games. Okay, 485 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 2: fair enough, Good for you, Bobby, Joe Green. Yeah, Jordan Barry, 486 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 2: the team's punter from twenty fifteen through twenty twenty, was 487 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 2: forty four point four yards per kick. He also placed 488 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 2: forty percent of his punts inside the opposing twenty, which 489 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 2: is a team record for more than he was better 490 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 2: than I remember. Yeah, yeah, okay, he was pretty solid. 491 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 2: In his career with the Eagles and Texans, Johnston has 492 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 2: averaged forty seven point three yards per punt. Really, and 493 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 2: he has put and this is his career forty point 494 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 2: nine percent of his kicks inside the opposing twenty. Wow, 495 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,239 Speaker 2: that's great. That shows up. 496 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 3: I mean, I hesitate because anyone listened to us, we 497 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 3: would see her and go wow, Presley Harvin preshob But 498 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 3: it wasn't. 499 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 2: His driver was impressive, yeah, I mean, and still he'd 500 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 2: put woman in the woods once in a while here 501 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 2: let alone. 502 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 3: We saw what happened to games and as weather hit 503 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 3: and all that for Harvin. But boy, he could kill 504 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 3: it this guy though. I mean the other day he 505 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 3: was putting him on the five over and over, you know, 506 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 3: with these different. 507 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 2: Suns or having them heading just dead right there. 508 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't. Punting's come a long way. Like there 509 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 3: was a guy that was on the Brown staff with 510 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 3: me that went on to become the assistant special teams 511 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 3: coach with the Colts, and ten years ago I ran 512 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 3: into him. I'm like, why on earth it has the 513 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 3: rules changed for punt returners. Used to be if you stood, 514 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,199 Speaker 3: put your heels on the ten and if you had 515 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 3: to go back to the case anymore. 516 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 2: Not anymore. 517 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 3: And He's like, because these punters have so many clubs 518 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 3: in their bag, they can really deaden it. They've gotten 519 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 3: to the point now. And Johnston's like the best I've 520 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 3: ever seen live do it, where the if he wants 521 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 3: the point of the ball never is the first thing 522 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 3: to hit. Yeah, so therefore you hit kind of flat 523 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 3: and it sort of stays right right. And I was 524 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 3: watching him swing his leg. He was maybe doing fifty percent. 525 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 3: I mean, it was just all touch. I mean it 526 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 3: was like shooting a free throw, just doing it over 527 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 3: and over and over. And then when he lets it go, 528 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 3: he'll hit this spiral that has great spin on it 529 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 3: goes straight up in the air with distance and comes 530 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 3: down hard. You know, like a rocket, and it's gonna 531 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 3: be hard to deal with. So I think you said 532 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 3: something on the lines of he's gonna be a weapon. 533 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 2: I agree with that. I remember about this last year 534 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 2: in Houston, forty five point five percent of his punts 535 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 2: were downed inside the twenty. 536 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 3: Wow, you'll take that all day long, almost half almost half. 537 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 3: You're starting with worse than average field position or whatever. Right, 538 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 3: that's goods a long way, man. 539 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 2: I don't know who Houston's punter is this year. It's 540 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 2: gonna be worse. It's gonna be worse than what he was. Yeah, 541 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 2: and uh, you know, I think you know, when you 542 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 2: look at a team, I. 543 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 3: Wonder, with all their money, why wouldn't they I don't 544 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 3: know what their punting situation. 545 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why they Maybe maybe they just 546 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 2: saw we're not gonna punt. 547 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, but I don't know why you 548 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 3: let him go. Yeah that's crazy you mentioned you did. 549 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 3: It's not like he's never dealt with weather either. 550 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 2: Yeah you know. So, No, I'm excited about that. Yeah, 551 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 2: that should be interesting to watch. I do think he's 552 00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 2: going to be something of something. You know, again, they 553 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 2: can win games in the margins with a guy like 554 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 2: that helping on special teams. 555 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 3: And last week one of us said something along the 556 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 3: lines of and no crappy ones, you know, I mean, 557 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 3: don't give me the fifteen yard or where the defense is. 558 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 2: Like you're punting out of your own end zone and 559 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 2: you hit one twenty five yards, yeah, goes bounds or whatever. Yeah, 560 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 2: I mean that's deflating. Oh, it's really deflating. You want 561 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 2: to I mean, that's when you want to get the 562 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 2: driver out. Yes, And that was when Presley Harbin would 563 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 2: struggle the most, sometimes late in the season when you 564 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 2: need the most. 565 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 3: And things like that, And I mean, I feel for 566 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 3: the kid, but it'd be tough being his teammate, going, 567 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 3: you're here for one thing, you know. I mean, I 568 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 3: know you're not gonna be perfect every time. No one 569 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 3: expects a field goal kicker, but put between the uprights 570 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 3: every time. But you can't leave us hanging like that. 571 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. Often. One of my other main points of my 572 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 2: five for Friday was that the Steelers might might keep 573 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 2: a true fullback on the roster this year. I'm really 574 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 2: leaning that way. 575 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 3: I don't know how much you and I have talked 576 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 3: about this, but I've been watching practices with Labs and 577 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 3: I going, it keeps going, there's be a fullback on 578 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 3: this roster, Labs. 579 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 2: I mean, there's. 580 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 3: So many practice reps here have had a fullback on 581 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 3: the field. I don't I think you corrected me that yesterday. 582 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 3: I yesterday he hardly played at all Coleto there's only 583 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 3: one fullback on the rock. But he did more special 584 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 3: team stuff. He did more special team stuff. And I 585 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 3: think it was you that said, yeah, because they have 586 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 3: pads on they when tonight when they're banging, he's gonna 587 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 3: bang because he can bang. 588 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 2: And he's he was with the Niners. I mean, so 589 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 2: he probably has some use check like skill sets. So 590 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 2: last year with the Falcons, Kevin Keith Smith, who was 591 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 2: their full back, he played one hundred and eighty five 592 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 2: offensive snaps, which is sixteen point five percent of their snaps. 593 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 2: The Steelers that kind of game, Yeah, the Steelers haven't 594 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 2: had a fullback played that many offensive snaps since Roosevelt 595 00:28:58,280 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 2: Nicks in twenty seventeen. 596 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 3: Sur I mean, that's a pretty fair amount. Yeah, I mean, 597 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 3: so I think eight to ten is probably the neighborhood 598 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 3: you're going to see. And it's old school it's I, 599 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 3: you know, yeah, it's him and behind center I formation. 600 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 3: And I do think that there's a reason that such 601 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 3: players are becoming less and less, you know, semi extinct 602 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 3: in that they don't catch the ball. They're not super 603 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 3: scary as receivers. But that being said, there are so 604 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 3: many second level players in this league, linebackers that don't 605 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 3: really know how to handle a full back. I mean, 606 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 3: if a fullback comes through a B gap, do I 607 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 3: take on his right shoulder? I take on his left shoulder. 608 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 3: I played at Oklahoma in the Big twelve and never 609 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 3: saw one in my life, you know what I mean. 610 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 3: And they come at you hard, and my linebackers are lighter. 611 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: Now. 612 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 2: My only question was with that. A. Is Jack Kletto 613 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 2: going to be any good on special teams? Because he 614 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 2: has to be useful there. He has because if you're 615 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 2: only playing one hundred and eighty or so snaps, you 616 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 2: better be able to do some other things. Yeah. B. 617 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 2: Is he better than Connor Hayward. He's probably a better 618 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 2: lead blocker than Connor Hayward or Michael Pruitt. Right, but 619 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 2: mikeel Pruitt's done a fair amount of that in his 620 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 2: career as well. 621 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 3: Could you save the roster spot at the point, and 622 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 3: maybe it's six plays a game as opposed to ten 623 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 3: if it's one of those guys I don't know, I 624 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 3: mean short yard and stuff here, seven shots, he's been 625 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 3: really effective, I mean, and they don't. 626 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 2: But they've also used Michel Pruett doing some of that 627 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 2: stuff too. Yeah. 628 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 3: I haven't seen as much Iso Downhill blow the linebacker 629 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 3: up from Pruitt and Hayward, but I've seen a lot 630 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 3: of fullback alignments and movement stuff. 631 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that will be interesting. Yeah, just something to 632 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 2: keep an eye on here when they get into their 633 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 2: first preseason game. Is Coletto out there on a lot 634 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 2: of different teams. I'm sure he will be. They'll take 635 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 2: a look at him there. Yeah, but if he isn't, 636 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 2: he's in trouble. He has to be valuable on special teams. 637 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 2: He has to maybe not as good as Derek Watt, 638 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 2: but he has to be one of your best eleven. 639 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 2: That was one of the things with Watt that I 640 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 2: think people misunderstood. Like he was signed to play special teams. 641 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 2: He was basically signed by the Steelers to the same 642 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 2: contract that like the Bills signed Matty Kvitch. Yeah, yeah, 643 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 2: there's no difference there. Matta Kaevitch never played on defense 644 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 2: for the Bills. 645 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 3: No, no, I mean it didn't matter. If killer Brew 646 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 3: is an S an extra name, Matty Kavich has an LB, 647 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 3: he might as well have an STV team and as 648 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 3: their special team, you know, monsters. And yes, Matta Kavitch 649 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 3: and Killerbrew could get you out of a game. And yeah, 650 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 3: Watt played on offense a little, but that's not why 651 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 3: he was employed. 652 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 2: No, no, no, And it wasn't because he was TJ's 653 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 2: brother either. No. No, he's a really good special team 654 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 2: He was a really good special team player, right. Yeah. 655 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 2: And it's the same same thing with with with Connor Hayward, 656 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 2: Like I still get I wrote a story about Connor 657 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 2: Hayward this offseason. The only reason he's on the team 658 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 2: is because he's Cam's younger brother. No, it's not the case. 659 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 2: I got to get picked up in a second. Yeah, 660 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 2: there's no doubt he puts good tape out there. Yeah, 661 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 2: I think he's going to be a weapon this year 662 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 2: as well. Yeah. 663 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 3: I think the way that this scheme moves him around 664 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 3: fits him quite well. 665 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I do believe that's going to be the 666 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 2: case with that, uh Mattam. We talked a little bit 667 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 2: about the whole offensive lineman if they if they false start, 668 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 2: having to run. Yeah, thing, it's kind of old school. 669 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 2: And in previous seasons, Pat Meyer if they if they 670 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 2: fall started, will pull You'd immediately pull them out and 671 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 2: they go stand on the sideline. Arthur Smith has taking 672 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 2: that a step further and and now has them you 673 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 2: have to run a lap. Okay, if they if they jump, 674 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 2: if they false start. I know people might look at 675 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 2: that and well, yeah, that's because it's been a problem 676 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 2: for the Steelers. It really hasn't. No, it hasn't. No, 677 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 2: it hasn't. They were they wanted to be, but they 678 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 2: had the second fewest false starts in the league last 679 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 2: year on offense. YEP. 680 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 3: I think penalties across the board is I'm not making 681 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 3: funny you guys, Steeler fans, but you you look at 682 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 3: you guys really focus on your team more than the 683 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 3: league as much as any fan base I've seen, and 684 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 3: just assume that the Steelers are a heavily penalized team 685 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 3: when the facts don't back that up at all. Yeah, 686 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:01,959 Speaker 3: I mean, it's particularly with the false starts up. 687 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 2: They had twelve false starts as a team. Last year. 688 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 2: They didn't have an individual player with more than two. Wow. 689 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 2: That was Darnell Washington and Chuokes. 690 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 3: Of Corps for and remember how they started the season, 691 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 3: both Garrett Crosby, I mean, the other pass rushers in. 692 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 2: The league, the Ravens. 693 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 3: The Ravens defense is one of the best at causing 694 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 3: offenses to make because they move around so yeah, yeah, yeah, 695 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 3: you can. 696 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 2: Get you to jump easy. And so were the Browns. 697 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 3: Actually I'm really nerd now, but the Browns, Steelers, and 698 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 3: Ravens are three of the best defenses at creating offensive penalties. 699 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Steelers didn't bite, I didn't take the cheez 700 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 2: you know. The NFL leader sing single individual leader in 701 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 2: false starts Dylan ra Dunes with the Titans. He had nine. Nine. 702 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 2: He had almost as many by himself as the Steelers 703 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 2: had as a team. Wow. 704 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 3: And we just did the other line ranks and he's 705 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 3: coming back at right tackle, even though they drafted a 706 00:33:58,880 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 3: right tackle that we like. 707 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I but I do think that they're you know, 708 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 2: with with five offensive linemen drafted in the last two seasons, 709 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 2: and three of them this year, I do think it's 710 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 2: good to reinforce that now. Yeah, and we've seen that. 711 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 2: It's been the rookies, it's been you know, uh, you 712 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 2: know several times. I've seen the rookies be the guys 713 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 2: that have to run because you're just you're just trying 714 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 2: to get a little bit extra. 715 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 3: You're thinking a little bit more too, and it's not 716 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 3: second nature. And yeah, and it's small thing, but I 717 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 3: bet all these linemen are getting used to these quarterbacks 718 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 3: cadence too, a little bit of that too. You never 719 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 3: dealt with them, you know. 720 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's there's a little bit of that. But 721 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 2: it hasn't been a problem here. No, No, I hope 722 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 2: people aren't. Like, boy, they're jumping off sides left and right. Here, 723 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 2: there's been a couple of people running like you just 724 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 2: notice it because they they immediately run out. The defense 725 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 2: makes fun of them, and they. 726 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 3: Sure they feel shame, They feel shaved. And those three 727 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 3: hundred and thirty pound guys with pads on don't love 728 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 3: running around and. 729 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 2: Gets singled out a little bit more too. When everybody 730 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 2: sees you running a lap around the field like they don't. 731 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 2: They don't make the defensive linemen if they jump off sides, 732 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 2: go on right right. 733 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 3: I wonder we did the old line ranks. The Falcons 734 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 3: were really high, and they should have been. I wonder 735 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 3: what they were in false star penalties. They had more 736 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 3: than the Steelers. Yeah, they were like sixteen. They probably 737 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 3: ran more. 738 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 2: In fact, yeah they were sixteenth. They had sixteen because 739 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 2: they basically had about one a game. Now that's not 740 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 2: even all offensive linemen. As I mentioned, Darnell Washington was 741 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 2: typed for the Steelers league with two I mean receiver receivers. Yeah, 742 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 2: false start all the time of that nature. So yeah, 743 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 2: that's not necessarily just an offensive line stat good point. Yeah, 744 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 2: so but yeah, you know, and I think you know 745 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 2: something as well that happened yesterday we didn't really get 746 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 2: a great chance to talk about was the resigning of 747 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,399 Speaker 2: Marcus Golden. I love it. I love it. I thought 748 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,959 Speaker 2: that there was a clear roster hole. 749 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 3: I'm not talking about a starting receiver that they could 750 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 3: use or something like that, but I mean a spot 751 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 3: where I don't know who's going to fill that, and 752 00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 3: they seem to kind of have some interest in move 753 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 3: Perilous who got hurt has bounced around here a little 754 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 3: bit too. But Golden to me is a professional. Yeah, 755 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:14,439 Speaker 3: I mean, he's a solid, sturdy run defender. I'm looking 756 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 3: at I posted something here after they signed him. I'm 757 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 3: digging up on my phone here, because how about this. 758 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 3: He only had eighty eight pass rush snaps last year 759 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 3: for the Steelers. Four sacks and eighty eight pass rush 760 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 3: snaps and thirteen pressures. You know, we don't love pressures, 761 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 3: but yeah, the rush pastor eighty eight times and was 762 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 3: highly effective doing so that's great. Yeah, okay, keep them fresh. 763 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 3: And they didn't have, you know, knock on wood, they 764 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 3: didn't have a lot of injuries at that position last year, 765 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 3: so they didn't have to really test their depth all 766 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 3: that much. 767 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 2: The other thing that does allows you, you know, if 768 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 2: in fact her Big is going to be highly used 769 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 2: on special teams again, which I assume he will be. 770 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 2: Sure looks that way, you don't necessarily have to have 771 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 2: him be the backup both spots on the outside. You can. 772 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 2: You can have Golden back up on the right and 773 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 2: her Big on the left or however you want to 774 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 2: do that and just it just have them play sides basically. 775 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, if you get matchups two with that, 776 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 3: you do so her Big led the team in special 777 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 3: team snaps last year. By the by the looks of things, 778 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 3: and as well as this signing, I think there's a 779 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 3: good chance he's in contention for it again. 780 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:24,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. 781 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 3: And if you got to think about this, if you 782 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 3: just run down on the punt team, you don't want 783 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 3: to have to defend Lamar Jackson the next play, you 784 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 3: know what I mean. Like, I know he's not a starter, 785 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 3: but he might be when there's an injury or whatever. Night, 786 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 3: He's have another option, and Golden's good, and. 787 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 2: He gives him a different look than her Big, Like 788 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 2: her is. Herbig's the speedball off the edge. He's probably 789 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 2: twenty pounds heavy, whereas Golden is the you know, the 790 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 2: powerful technician, better and tough. Yeah. The other thing too. 791 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 3: We've talked about this a thousand times, but I think 792 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 3: one of the reasons Golden's still out there is he 793 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 3: has a special teams and bag. But I wonder, you know, 794 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 3: everyone's learning this kickoff rule together. I know he's an 795 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 3: older dog to teach that trick to, but no one's 796 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 3: done it before. 797 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. Just watching that game last night, it was basically 798 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 2: everybody was kind of like, kind of you take it 799 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 2: on the block and trying to duck under and get 800 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 2: to the get to the back. Yeah, they all have 801 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 2: a gap. That is what it looked like to me. 802 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 2: He could do that. 803 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's only been for one practice and 804 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 3: he wasn't involved, which why would he be. But I 805 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 3: wonder if tonight or tomorrow he gets some of that. 806 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll be something to watch here over the next 807 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 2: few days. Is a because he has to have the 808 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 2: acclamation period. Oh right, right right, I forgot. 809 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 3: It applies to every player, not just the team as 810 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 3: a whole. 811 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 2: So we'll see where they mix him in at once 812 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 2: they once they get into this and uh, Matt, we're 813 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 2: basically we're one week out from a game. 814 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 3: I know, we saw when last night, which is the 815 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 3: most anti climatic thing in NFL all the time. But 816 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 3: Steelers are gonna be I had a game. I mean, 817 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,359 Speaker 3: like there'll be a lot to talk about even this week. 818 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 3: I mean we probably have a couple of real physical 819 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,760 Speaker 3: practices coming up as well. I'm pretty excited. I'm pretty excited. 820 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 3: I like where this team is at right now. I 821 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 3: want to see more Russell Wilson, you know. 822 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder if he makes it out there tonight. Yeah. 823 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 2: Do you think he'll play in Week one or the preseason? Yeah, 824 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 2: I'm leaning that way as well. But if he get 825 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 2: ramped up all week, that'd be a good start. Yeah. 826 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 2: He's been doing a little bit more each day. Yeah, 827 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 2: but they're just slow playing this because they know what 828 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 2: they have in him. 829 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 3: Guys, trust me, I saw him in the cafeteria an 830 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 3: hour ago. It's not like he's got anything wrapped. He's 831 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 3: bouncing around. He's in good and you know he's in 832 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 3: good spirits. If it was Week one, he'd play, no doubt. 833 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. You know, I just think that they 834 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 2: he took all the reps throughout the preseason or throughout 835 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 2: the season stuff. Uh, he was there for everything. So 836 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 2: these people saying, well, he's going to be way behind. 837 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 2: I'm working with receivers, and I might add after practice 838 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 2: every day he's out there throwing with the receiver. 839 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,280 Speaker 3: Yes, he's not doing a lot of running or changing directions, 840 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,959 Speaker 3: but he's timing the time and some deeper throats. 841 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 2: And even the other day after the walkthrough, he went 842 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 2: and took with went and worked with Najee Harrison, Jayalen 843 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 2: Warren on some routes and things that. I mean, they're 844 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 2: just they're getting he's getting the work. 845 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,799 Speaker 3: In and the little we played yesterday was by far 846 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 3: the sharpest I've seen any quarterback here. 847 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, so he's been on the block. Yeah, 848 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 2: I'm not concerned about that at all. I'm not either 849 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 2: people trying to read too much into that stuff. And 850 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 2: like I said yesterday, you know, when Arthur Smith or 851 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin ar asked about Justin Fields, don't be surprised 852 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 2: when they say, oh, yeah, he's looking good. He's When 853 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 2: have you ever heard a coach come out and say, oh, 854 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 2: he's awful. Right, And I'm not saying I'm not saying 855 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 2: the Fields has been off, but that's what you say 856 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 2: about your guys. 857 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he is coming along well. I mean I 858 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,359 Speaker 3: think they're happy with what he's doing. But I think 859 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 3: Wilson's just better. Yeah, way more experienced, especially if it's 860 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 3: eleven on eleven with on the road loud, picking up 861 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 3: blitzes and all the mental stuff. I mean, he's gonna 862 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 3: be really sharp with that. 863 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 2: Honestly, I think Fields would tell you that, Like nor 864 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 2: Russell's a guy, it's just the facts. Yeah, I mean 865 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 2: that's just the reality of it. 866 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 3: And we talk all the time. There's this national misnome 867 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 3: er that there's a quarterback competition here. I don't think 868 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 3: anyone within the miles radius think there's a quarterback. 869 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 2: Competition, so either yeah, so uh, anything else from this 870 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,320 Speaker 2: first week of padded practices stand out to you. 871 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 3: I think they have ten good offensive linemen, which I 872 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 3: don't think there's many teams that could say that. I 873 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 3: think their defensive linemen are interesting. I'm starting to get 874 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,319 Speaker 3: a little have an eyebrow up on Leo, you know. 875 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 2: And I like it's pretty good. 876 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and if with the addition of Golden and Hulcombe 877 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 3: still floating out there, I think this could be one 878 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 3: of the best front sevens in the league. I mean, 879 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,320 Speaker 3: I think the linebacker additions are massive and have a 880 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 3: ripple effect in a huge way. We sort of touched 881 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 3: on it with Rob yesterday, but we you know, it 882 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 3: just kind of ran out of time. If they can 883 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 3: if they can play a higher percentage of Nickel, it's 884 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 3: going to help them dramatically. And even if it's big 885 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 3: Nickel with those three safeties, or or keeping Wilson and 886 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 3: Queen on the field for almost every snap or however 887 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,360 Speaker 3: they decide to do it. Man, teams have attacked the 888 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,720 Speaker 3: middle field against these guys, unfortunately since Ryan's years injury, 889 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 3: and I think the answer is finally solved. I mean, 890 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 3: it's not throwing Morgan Burnett at the problem or unfortunately. 891 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 2: But the other thing, you know, it's not Robert Splain 892 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 2: out there right right. And the other thing that they 893 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 2: can do now is that they don't have a tell right. 894 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 2: You know, in those previous years, Okay, Robert Splain's out there, 895 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 2: we're gonna go, you know, they're they're thinking it's going 896 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 2: to be you know whatever, and teams are going to 897 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 2: attack that. Well, now it's Patrick Queen, Yeah yeah, yeah, 898 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,800 Speaker 2: Now it might be Peyton Wilson, it might you know 899 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,720 Speaker 2: it Just it's a different You don't have to change 900 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 2: based on down and distance. 901 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 3: And I wanted to give a shout out to Roberts too, 902 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:52,880 Speaker 3: because when they signed him, I'm like, oh, I like 903 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,480 Speaker 3: the way he plays, hard school patriot banger, and I 904 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 3: thought he'll be a rundown player. 905 00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 2: Only he proved to be better than that. 906 00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 3: He outkicked what I thought of him when they signed 907 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 3: him last year, Like he could be out there on 908 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 3: third and six. 909 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, they've they've got legitimate linebacker depth. Yeah, which would 910 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 2: be interesting to see HLKM if he's you know, where's 911 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:11,359 Speaker 2: he at? 912 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, which I guess leads me the other thing too, 913 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,319 Speaker 3: Lowry Cordoll Patterson holk them. 914 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 2: When do we see them? Patterson? I don't care about 915 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 2: it at all to be alarmed. No, keep him and Bubble. 916 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 2: We're up until the season starts. But they might have 917 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 2: some fun wrinkle with the offense with him, you know, 918 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 2: Jack keeps or something like that. Right, But again, he 919 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 2: knows the offense. True. He spent three years with ar 920 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 2: you know, Arthur Smith in Atlanta. It's not like Arthur 921 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 2: Smith's reinventing the wheel here. Like he could probably step 922 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 2: in there tomorrow and know the you know, if he 923 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 2: had to play fifty plays, know exactly what was going 924 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 2: on at receiver and running back. 925 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,840 Speaker 3: So which also, if they do keep a fullback and 926 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:50,240 Speaker 3: they keep four tight ends, could Patterson be your third 927 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 3: receiver or your third running back and your fifth receiver 928 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 3: or you know what I mean? 929 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 2: I don't know. Again, you're you're always talking about that 930 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,319 Speaker 2: position flexibility. Can you kill two birds with one stone? Yeah? 931 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 2: And then maybe you can keep a fullback and even like. 932 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 3: Connor, Hayward could get you out of a game if 933 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 3: you had a couple of running back injuries. 934 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,800 Speaker 2: You know, they get some guys who give you that 935 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:11,799 Speaker 2: kind of flexibility. 936 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 3: Between Hayward, Patterson, Preuit, you know, they could do a 937 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 3: couple of things. 938 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:22,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's interesting. I don't see them keeping six 939 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 2: receivers this year now. I don't either. I mean, even 940 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,919 Speaker 2: if they traded for one, I don't see them keeping six. Yeah. 941 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:31,279 Speaker 3: I think Jefferson's making the team. You know, Pickens is 942 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 3: making the team. I don't know anyone else is guaranteed. 943 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 3: Roman Wilson, Oh okay, yeah, yeah, out of side, you're right. 944 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,319 Speaker 3: I would think Austin, like Austin's chances, but I don't 945 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 3: know he's guarantee. 946 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 2: But that would be four. That's four and then maybe another. Yeah. Yeah, 947 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,320 Speaker 2: I mean, if I had to, if I had to 948 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 2: put money on it right now, who that guy would be? 949 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:58,239 Speaker 2: To me? Watkins? Maybe it's Quas Watkins or Scotty Miller. Yeah, 950 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 2: and Watkins gives you a little bit something different, a. 951 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 3: Little more proven to a little bit more of a 952 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 3: track record. Neither one is gonna help you on teams, 953 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 3: which doesn't help you know, there's no. 954 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know that any receivers are going to 955 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 2: help you on team unlessen gunner. I don't know that. 956 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 2: I don't think they have that guy. Yeah. I think 957 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 2: that's a big part of the Matta Cavis signing. Yeah, 958 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 2: but I don't I also don't think you can afford 959 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 2: to have that keep that guy right now based on 960 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 2: because you're not going to use him on kickoff, kick 961 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,280 Speaker 2: returns or kickoff and you don't his return guy often 962 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 2: at least he's a punt returner. Yeah, so that gives 963 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 2: him a leg up. I assume corners will be your gunners. 964 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:34,920 Speaker 2: I assume so as well, but I don't know which one. 965 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 3: I don't know who that is. It won't be Porter, No, 966 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 3: it won't be Jackson, you know. Yeah, it won't be 967 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,879 Speaker 3: something you're running out the pretty quick. 968 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:43,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, is it? 969 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 3: Rush is a trice they're gonna have to That could 970 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 3: be the difference to make the team er off of 971 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,239 Speaker 3: those guys, absolutely, or those nickel guys have a chance to. 972 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, they better be good at it and start watching 973 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,319 Speaker 2: that as well here. Yeah, once they once they start 974 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,400 Speaker 2: kicking the ball for We've seen a lot of. 975 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,880 Speaker 3: Punt in practice, no, because kickoffs starting to rule today. 976 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 3: So I really don't know who the starting gunners are 977 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 3: at the moment. I don't know if they know who 978 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 3: the starters. Yeah, a gunner are right now. That'll be 979 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,439 Speaker 3: interesting certainly in game one. 980 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,279 Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, let's get to another break. He is the 981 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lollie. You're listening to The 982 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 2: Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio and Fox Sports Pittsburgh. 983 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 2: We are live from Steelers' training camp here at Saint 984 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 2: Vincent College where the Steelers will practice a little later 985 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,759 Speaker 2: today over at Latrobe Memorial Stadium for their Friday Night 986 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,400 Speaker 2: Lights practice. And go check that out over there. But 987 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,440 Speaker 2: nobody's nothing going on here right now. But it's always 988 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 2: a weird day. Yeah, it is kind of a weird day. 989 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:40,759 Speaker 2: Campus is kind of quiet, you know. I used to 990 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 2: seeing it not crowd up with people in all the 991 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 2: breakfasts for lunch and just everything's just a little off, 992 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 2: just a little different. 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We 1010 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,880 Speaker 2: have listeners all over Yeah, we uh we get them 1011 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 2: from all We've had a lot of people, just a 1012 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 2: ton of people out here at training camp approach us 1013 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 2: and say they're they're listening, and we always appreciate that. 1014 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 2: It's uh yeah, always good to hear from the fans. 1015 00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,800 Speaker 2: And uh, I've even got a few saying Matt that 1016 00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,640 Speaker 2: they they they didn't like it at first when we 1017 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,840 Speaker 2: did it, but they've gotten back into fantasy football because 1018 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 2: we talk a little fantasy football on a regular basis. 1019 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, we had a couple of people say, well, now 1020 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,799 Speaker 3: I'm back in the league because you guys or man, 1021 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:15,319 Speaker 3: I learned a lot about the league even if I'm 1022 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:15,920 Speaker 3: not in fantasy. 1023 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's why we talk. I mean, it's not 1024 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,360 Speaker 2: just about fantasy football. It's about you. You learn a 1025 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,759 Speaker 2: little bit more about the league in general without question, 1026 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,319 Speaker 2: or we wouldn't do it. I mean it's I stole a. 1027 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,800 Speaker 3: Snippet from Fantasy Life today and I sent it to 1028 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 3: you and Rob about red zone passing, and it was 1029 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 3: all about George Pickens could get a lot more fantasy 1030 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,840 Speaker 3: points this year and something's gonna go down. Well, the 1031 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,839 Speaker 3: crux of it was because Russ Russell Wilson is good 1032 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,080 Speaker 3: in the red zone good in the red zone, and 1033 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 3: pick It was really bad to be honest with ye, right, 1034 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,280 Speaker 3: you know, so that that stuff matters. 1035 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,719 Speaker 2: So we're gonna do a little fantasy mock draft here. 1036 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 2: We haven't done one in a while, uh, and we're 1037 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,600 Speaker 2: using the Draft Wizard on fantasypros dot Com. The teams 1038 00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 2: we are drafting against. The number one is high at 1039 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 2: as a kittle. No, Hyatt is a kite. There we go. 1040 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:08,359 Speaker 2: Got uh two is that it ain't so. The three 1041 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 2: is the Murray up offense for is it urts so good? One? 1042 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:19,239 Speaker 2: Uh five is can't stop the Thieling Nice. Six is 1043 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,359 Speaker 2: bake Man and Robin. There you go. I like that. One, 1044 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,800 Speaker 2: uh seven is a glass of charpen a. Eight is 1045 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 2: the Baker's dozen. Nine is Breesey's pieces. Good good, like 1046 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,480 Speaker 2: that we're picking at ten in this one. I did 1047 00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:36,520 Speaker 2: kind of random start here. Better call Hall is number eleven, 1048 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 2: So Breese Halls he's resenting there. Uh he's on both 1049 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 2: sides of us, right, yeah, And then twelve is wattle waddle. Okay, 1050 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 2: all right, So the pi we're ten is the bottom line? 1051 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 2: Yeah right, okay. So McCaffrey, lamb Tyreek Hill, Jamar Chase, 1052 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,280 Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson, A mon Ross, Saint Brown, Bjeon Robinson, Breese 1053 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:58,800 Speaker 2: Hall and A. J. Brown went ahead of us. No 1054 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,879 Speaker 2: real shockers there. The top suggested pick for us Matt 1055 00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson. I don't hate it. 1056 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,920 Speaker 3: I don't think there's a running back worth it, the 1057 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:09,720 Speaker 3: Bijon Breese. 1058 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:13,960 Speaker 2: And yeah, the top running back to suggestion is Jamiir Gibbs, 1059 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,879 Speaker 2: and well, I think he will be used more this show, 1060 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:23,400 Speaker 2: yeah than Dynamic. Yeah, there's David Montgomery still a thing. 1061 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:25,560 Speaker 3: I mean, if Gibbs were there or their next pick, 1062 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,400 Speaker 3: I'd strongly consider it. I don't think I could take 1063 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,320 Speaker 3: him over a safer receiver. 1064 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:33,400 Speaker 2: That's the one running back duo in the league, Detroit's 1065 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:35,919 Speaker 2: that I would take over the Steelers right now. Yeah, 1066 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,480 Speaker 2: and outproduce the Steelers too. Yeah. What other receivers besides 1067 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:44,240 Speaker 2: Wilson or you're looking at Garrett Wilson, Pooka, Nakua, Marvin Harrison, 1068 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:48,439 Speaker 2: Davante Adams. I think he stands out, Chris Olave, Drake London. Yeah, 1069 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 2: I think Garrett Wilson stands out for sure. Yeah it yeah, Drake, 1070 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,400 Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson, it is. That's a bit of a projection, 1071 00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:54,920 Speaker 2: it is. 1072 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,839 Speaker 3: But even without Rogers, he wasn't bad for fantasy. Yeah, 1073 00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:58,760 Speaker 3: their quarterbacks. 1074 00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:03,320 Speaker 2: Now we were back up here at two three and 1075 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,719 Speaker 2: the picks after us were Sakuon Barkley, Jonathan Taylor, Pooka 1076 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,560 Speaker 2: and the Koola Jamir Gibbs, who was running backs, got 1077 00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,160 Speaker 2: hit pretty hard there. Three out of four. So it's 1078 00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,439 Speaker 2: Travis at and Kiren Williams, Isaiah Paiceco, Devin and Chan. 1079 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,040 Speaker 2: I think i'd go receiver. Yeah, A lot of those 1080 00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,440 Speaker 2: guys have bust potential. I don't want to take Marvin 1081 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,960 Speaker 2: Harrison Junior in their list. He seems too high. Yeah, 1082 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,440 Speaker 2: I would much rather have DeVante Adams there. You two. 1083 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,520 Speaker 3: I have Adams ranked. He's my highest rank receiver that's left. 1084 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:36,080 Speaker 3: I'm five with it. 1085 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a nice start at the receiver positions. Nice. 1086 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,240 Speaker 2: We're gonna we're gonna win the receiver position most weeks. 1087 00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:46,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, with starting with those two guys. Now running 1088 00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 2: back is yeah, uh so running back here, we're back 1089 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:54,240 Speaker 2: up again. You got Rashad White, Joe Mixon, Josh Jacobs, 1090 00:51:54,360 --> 00:52:00,840 Speaker 2: James Cook, Kenneth Walker, Aaron Jones. I kind of Kenneth Walker. 1091 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:01,600 Speaker 2: There are those guys. 1092 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,279 Speaker 3: I think one of them will also be around the 1093 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 3: corner too. Yeah, I think Walker is the best player. 1094 00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:12,399 Speaker 3: I think Cook and White are attractive because they're receiving skills. Yeah, 1095 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:14,480 Speaker 3: I'm fine with Walker. 1096 00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,560 Speaker 2: There, although Josh Jacobs will catch some balls. 1097 00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,799 Speaker 3: Oh well, in Green Bay and mixing plays a ton. 1098 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:24,080 Speaker 3: That whole group to me is pretty even. Yeah, I 1099 00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:25,560 Speaker 3: don't know we have to get two of them, but 1100 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,080 Speaker 3: I'm sure we could, especially little running backs that win. 1101 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,040 Speaker 2: So I think the question would would you rather have 1102 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,560 Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs and Kenneth Walker or say Kenneth Walker and 1103 00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:34,320 Speaker 2: Aaron Jones. 1104 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,719 Speaker 3: It's about saying I think to me, I'd rather have Jacobs. 1105 00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,200 Speaker 3: So you're saying take him now and hube Walker falls. 1106 00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1107 00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,960 Speaker 3: If I remember, three of the four picks at the 1108 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,640 Speaker 3: eleven twelve teams were running running backs, so the chances 1109 00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,839 Speaker 3: are we're gonna get you. No, only one of them 1110 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,560 Speaker 3: is gonna get swiped if anything. Yeah, I'm fine with that. 1111 00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,560 Speaker 2: And hope that Kenneth Walker we can slide him through 1112 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:03,080 Speaker 2: that next pick, but will be another Yeah, and he did. Okay, 1113 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:09,560 Speaker 2: So the picks were Nico Collins, Mike Evans, James Cooker, 1114 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,400 Speaker 2: Shad White. Okay, that didn't really hurt us. Then no, 1115 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,080 Speaker 2: let's do it two and two Kenneth Walker. There we go. Okay, 1116 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,160 Speaker 2: that's not a bad running back duo. No, it's not. 1117 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,440 Speaker 2: I mean I think Walker's undervalued in fantasy right now. 1118 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:25,239 Speaker 2: I think so too. All right, back up here, the 1119 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:31,000 Speaker 2: top Roger receiver available is George Pickens. Okay, I like that. 1120 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,960 Speaker 2: T Higgins, Keenan Allen, Terry McLaurin. That's the company that 1121 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:35,560 Speaker 2: George Pickens is keeping. 1122 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,440 Speaker 3: I have them ranked ahead all those guys. I do too, 1123 00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,680 Speaker 3: I mean but similar. I mean they're not far off. 1124 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,160 Speaker 3: I think we'd be really strong on wide receiver if 1125 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:42,520 Speaker 3: we do that. 1126 00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,000 Speaker 2: Who's the tight end and who's the quarterback tight end? 1127 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 2: You're looking at Dalton Kincaid, Evan Ingram, Kyle Pitts, George Kittle. 1128 00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,440 Speaker 2: But one of them will be there. One of them 1129 00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,239 Speaker 2: will be there once we come back around. I like 1130 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,880 Speaker 2: Kingkaid the best. But quarterbacks you're looking at Anthony Richardson, 1131 00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,920 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow, Kyler, Murray, Dak Prescott. I think they Pickens. 1132 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 2: I think you take Pickens as well. I think he's 1133 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,040 Speaker 2: my nineteen thrank receiver I was looking at this morning. 1134 00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,040 Speaker 2: They have him as wide receiver twenty eight. That is 1135 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,839 Speaker 2: too low, too low, too low. I'm liking that a lot. 1136 00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,759 Speaker 2: I'm like in our receiving corps a lot. That red 1137 00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,600 Speaker 2: zone stuff I sent you today was remarks, I think 1138 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,719 Speaker 2: he gets a double digital touchdowns this year. I think 1139 00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 2: he's had like two catchuble passes in the end zone 1140 00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:23,360 Speaker 2: his whole career. Yeah, like that's gonna change. Okay, the 1141 00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,840 Speaker 2: tight ends now available at six three. If kN Kaid's there, 1142 00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:28,479 Speaker 2: I think you run it up. He is not, Okay, 1143 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:32,719 Speaker 2: Evan Ingram, Coyle, Pits, Jake Ferguson, David and Joku. I like. 1144 00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:34,920 Speaker 2: I like Pits is my favorite. I like Pits there 1145 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,640 Speaker 2: a lot. I think the Kirk Cousins factor. Yeah, he 1146 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,440 Speaker 2: was hurt much of last year difference. I'm that it 1147 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,919 Speaker 2: would be my selection too. Yeah, it's been kind of easy. Yeah, 1148 00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,359 Speaker 2: we're not struggling here at all. We got basically all 1149 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,560 Speaker 2: of our starting spots in the lineup are now filled. 1150 00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,480 Speaker 2: We can still get out of my weight quarterback either 1151 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:58,120 Speaker 2: quarterbacks available Kyler, Murray, Dak Prescott, Brock Perty, Jaden Daniels. Okay, 1152 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:03,040 Speaker 2: I bet they will be there though. Well, I like 1153 00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:04,360 Speaker 2: I like Murray and Daniels. 1154 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,000 Speaker 3: I like Murray a ton. Yeah, quick question. You know 1155 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:09,399 Speaker 3: I was thinking of something else when you say because 1156 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,239 Speaker 3: I didn't hear Murray, Because I think Murray stands out. 1157 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,920 Speaker 3: We have three receivers. Do we start three and a 1158 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:17,800 Speaker 3: flex or we start two in a flex, three in 1159 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:19,239 Speaker 3: a flex. Okay, so we still have a flex. We 1160 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:20,520 Speaker 3: could still do a flex spot. 1161 00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,040 Speaker 2: The top flex player available, Well, you got Rashid Rice, 1162 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,320 Speaker 2: Naji Harris, Jayalen Warren, DeAndre Hopkins. 1163 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,919 Speaker 3: Hopkins just got hurt. Yeah, So I think Caler Murray. 1164 00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,200 Speaker 3: I think Kler Murray's a chance to be the number 1165 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:33,640 Speaker 3: on quarterback. 1166 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,759 Speaker 2: What's all said done? Like, there's not many people that 1167 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,000 Speaker 2: many problems with that can say that. Yeah, I don't 1168 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:39,799 Speaker 2: have a problem with that. He could rush for eight 1169 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,600 Speaker 2: hundred and throw for four thousand. Okay, so we did that. 1170 00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,040 Speaker 2: Now we could fill our flex spot if you would 1171 00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:50,360 Speaker 2: consider one of the Steeler backs. Well, Naji Harris went, so, 1172 00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,799 Speaker 2: you got Nase I'm sorry, Yeah, Jayleen Warrem went so yeah. 1173 00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,239 Speaker 2: Naji Harris, Tony Pollard, Javonte Williams, Brian Robinson are the 1174 00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,399 Speaker 2: top backs of vag He's in my favorite of that group. 1175 00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's going to catch more passes issues 1176 00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:03,600 Speaker 3: watching practice, it seems that way. 1177 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and Russell likes to throw the running backs. 1178 00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,560 Speaker 3: Like they're they're doing what I thought they'd do more 1179 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:10,920 Speaker 3: of is when he came out of Bama. They're detaching 1180 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,560 Speaker 3: them a little bit. He's running real routes. They're certainly 1181 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,480 Speaker 3: detaching the man moving them back in. Who's the best receiver? 1182 00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:21,000 Speaker 2: I'm just curious. You're looking at Jordan Addison, Courtland Sutton, 1183 00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,960 Speaker 2: Christian Watson, Xavier Worthy. I dodn't nawedge you over all. 1184 00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,480 Speaker 2: I like nause. He's gonna get twenty touches a game. 1185 00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,480 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, at least eighteen. He's gonna eighteen to 1186 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,480 Speaker 2: twenty touches per game. I think he can spike his 1187 00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,080 Speaker 2: receptions by it. I guess it's a good backup running back. 1188 00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:34,759 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah. 1189 00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:36,520 Speaker 3: And you hate to say, I put if Warren guitar 1190 00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,359 Speaker 3: Harris's money. I mean, yeah, he's one of those guys. 1191 00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:43,560 Speaker 2: Okay, we're back up here again. Uh. The top players 1192 00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:48,360 Speaker 2: available Jerome Four, Brian Thomas, Jakobe Myers, Zach Sharbonay, we. 1193 00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:54,160 Speaker 3: Have Walker, We do have Walk. Charbonnet is the best 1194 00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,359 Speaker 3: of that group, and we have Walker. Would be done 1195 00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:57,319 Speaker 3: done at running back. 1196 00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,640 Speaker 2: Wide receivers available. You're looking at Brian Thomas, Kobe Myers, 1197 00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,400 Speaker 2: Jamison Williams, Curtis Samuel Do you roll the roll the 1198 00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:05,600 Speaker 2: dice here? On Jamison one. 1199 00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,480 Speaker 3: I love the player, all the reports are great. Year three, 1200 00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,239 Speaker 3: I didn't love what he's done on the field thus far. 1201 00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:14,880 Speaker 3: He hasn't played a lot, though, I know, I know 1202 00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:16,720 Speaker 3: the opportunities areas. 1203 00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:20,080 Speaker 2: Take Sharponne here, Okay, now we gotta we got our 1204 00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:23,120 Speaker 2: running backs are down your set? Yeah, we have four 1205 00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:27,400 Speaker 2: guys you can live with and wide receiver. Then you're looking, well, 1206 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,200 Speaker 2: I guess who you just went? Yeah he went, Jameson 1207 00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,040 Speaker 2: Williams went. So you're looking at Brian Thomas to Kobe Myers, 1208 00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,439 Speaker 2: Curtis Samuel, Josh Palmer. Quarterbacks, you're looking at Brock perty 1209 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,840 Speaker 2: Jaye Daniels is still there. I think I grab him. 1210 00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,440 Speaker 2: Yeah that's a nice yeah. Yeah, side potential. 1211 00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,840 Speaker 3: If Murray had not been available when we picked a quarterback, 1212 00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:50,240 Speaker 3: I would have around the corner. We can take some 1213 00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:51,560 Speaker 3: shots on receivers though. 1214 00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, we gotta do that a little bit. So top 1215 00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:58,800 Speaker 2: receivers available, Rashid Shaheed, Brandon Cooks, Mike Williams, Khalis Shakir. 1216 00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,520 Speaker 2: I like all those guys. Yeah, for what we're paying 1217 00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,520 Speaker 2: for him. So yeah, this is eleventh round. Johan Dotson 1218 00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:13,520 Speaker 2: is there either, Gabe Davis to Mario Douglas, that old groups. 1219 00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:18,720 Speaker 2: Dantavian Wicks hear really hearing really good things about him 1220 00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:19,800 Speaker 2: from Packers. 1221 00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:21,960 Speaker 3: Camp, I know, and everyone's talking about how can he 1222 00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:26,720 Speaker 3: get past Dubbs and Watson and Reid. He might be 1223 00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,400 Speaker 3: better all of them. Yeah, I'm not like predicting that, 1224 00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,320 Speaker 3: but he might be the one, and they're all fighting 1225 00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:31,720 Speaker 3: for the two. 1226 00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:33,640 Speaker 2: And if that's the case, you might be able to 1227 00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:38,720 Speaker 2: get a guy like Romeo Dubbs. I agree, Yeah, who's 1228 00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,720 Speaker 2: all of a sudden He's fine, I mean's fine, He's fine. 1229 00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:46,080 Speaker 2: I mean he's an NFL receiver. Be buried though. All Right, 1230 00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,120 Speaker 2: Dontavian Wicks is a little ups we can we can 1231 00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,880 Speaker 2: afford to do an upside guy because of the three 1232 00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:51,800 Speaker 2: starters that we got. 1233 00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,080 Speaker 3: Like, I think he's a really good football player. I 1234 00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:56,960 Speaker 3: think the Packer's stile one there. 1235 00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,880 Speaker 2: Khalis Shakira is still there. I'm fine with that too. 1236 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,439 Speaker 2: I wanted to go receiver here, Rashid Sihe, Brandon Cooks, 1237 00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,000 Speaker 2: Khalil Shakir, Johan Dotson. 1238 00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:08,440 Speaker 3: I mean, Cooks is a two, he is, Shakiro might 1239 00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:12,320 Speaker 3: be a one, though it might be. I also like Shaheed, 1240 00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,280 Speaker 3: I think that offense we knows be better. I'm cool 1241 00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,280 Speaker 3: with Shakir though, I mean they're all in the same 1242 00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,600 Speaker 3: neighborhood for you. Yeah yeah, And we might need to 1243 00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:20,000 Speaker 3: start one. 1244 00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,240 Speaker 2: So we have five receivers now that I think we can. 1245 00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,080 Speaker 3: The nice thing there, too, is if we missed on Wicks, 1246 00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,480 Speaker 3: if he's the third or fourth there and he's unstartable, 1247 00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,760 Speaker 3: Shaki is going to get eighty targets on the field 1248 00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:31,200 Speaker 3: all the time. 1249 00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,400 Speaker 2: All Right, we're in around thirteen here. We just need 1250 00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,040 Speaker 2: the best player available backup tight end to be a 1251 00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:41,080 Speaker 2: We don't have a backup tight end. Cole Komette is there, Yeah, yeah, Oil, 1252 00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:44,160 Speaker 2: Herbert Rashawn Johnson, Brandon Cooks. What else is there at 1253 00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:48,120 Speaker 2: tight end? Well? Look, Muskgrave is there, Hunter, Henry Kate Aughten. 1254 00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:51,240 Speaker 2: I might take a roll ice on musk Grave. Yeah, 1255 00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,960 Speaker 2: I don't hate that. No, he could hit a lot 1256 00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,120 Speaker 2: of those guys can't really hit hit. Yeah, all right, 1257 00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,640 Speaker 2: musk Grave is to pick. Okay, good value pick there, 1258 00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,920 Speaker 2: said they say the experts they do. We're around fourteen now. 1259 01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:08,120 Speaker 2: We probably got to go defense and special teams here. 1260 01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,120 Speaker 2: Just the last pickers are two more. We got what 1261 01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:15,200 Speaker 2: we got three more defense. Oh we get well, we 1262 01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,919 Speaker 2: do three. We have this is our last true position player. 1263 01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:24,000 Speaker 2: Here's the thing, though, defense is available the Jets, the Steelers, 1264 01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:28,640 Speaker 2: the Chiefs, the Bills. They gotta take the Jets. Like 1265 01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:31,920 Speaker 2: at Jets defense. Yeah, buys in week twelve, which is 1266 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:32,360 Speaker 2: a good thing. 1267 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:34,960 Speaker 3: I don't mind the Chiefs or Steelers either, But no, 1268 01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:36,680 Speaker 3: I don't either, but the Jets one. 1269 01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:37,000 Speaker 2: I like that. 1270 01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:41,080 Speaker 3: Later by yeah true, then I think you just take 1271 01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,600 Speaker 3: best running back or receiver available. 1272 01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:46,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, So looking at that, you got Kenneth Gabwell 1273 01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:51,200 Speaker 2: Orodrick esteem the Mario Douglas, Clyde Edwards Hilaire yuck. How 1274 01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:52,840 Speaker 2: about a receiver? I don't even mind have an extra 1275 01:00:52,840 --> 01:01:01,400 Speaker 2: receiver Michael Wilson, Miles Sanders yuck. I don't think he's 1276 01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,440 Speaker 2: even gonna make the team. Uh So, looking at their 1277 01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:07,840 Speaker 2: you got to Mario Douglas, Michael Wilson, Rashad Bateman, Marvin Mims, 1278 01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:13,840 Speaker 2: Jermaine Burton. I like some of these guys as prospects, 1279 01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:19,120 Speaker 2: but not for re draft fantasy today. Quinton Johnston, Javon Baker, 1280 01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:24,680 Speaker 2: DeMarcus Robinson. I don't hate that's gonna take De Marcus Robinson. 1281 01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:26,840 Speaker 3: He's in number three on a team that lives in 1282 01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:29,680 Speaker 3: eleven and he was really productive and they gave him money. 1283 01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and what if comes to one play away from 1284 01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:36,080 Speaker 2: being really productive? Do we trust cup to say? Seventeen games? No, Robinson, 1285 01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:40,919 Speaker 2: look to stay healthy. Those guys around. Yeah, and we're 1286 01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:41,920 Speaker 2: up here in round. 1287 01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:44,600 Speaker 3: I think Robinson's gonad up on my team a lot 1288 01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:46,640 Speaker 3: at this neighborhood and people were like, why you have him? 1289 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,000 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, he could pay off quick. We gotta take 1290 01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:52,320 Speaker 2: our kicker here. We've got Jason Sanders, Kay Fair Barn, 1291 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,200 Speaker 2: Tyler Bass, Jake Moody, well Fair, Baron's bye week is 1292 01:01:56,240 --> 01:02:00,560 Speaker 2: in week fourteen. Oh great, there you go. He's gonna score. 1293 01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:05,920 Speaker 2: That'll be fine. Yeah, we get a C minus for 1294 01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,520 Speaker 2: that team didn't like it. Seventy out of one hundred. 1295 01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,920 Speaker 2: We ended up with Kyler Murray at quarterback, Josh Jacobs 1296 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:15,640 Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker as our two starting running backs, with the 1297 01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:20,160 Speaker 2: wide receiver group of Garrett Wilson, DeVante Adams, George Pickens. 1298 01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:23,800 Speaker 2: Our tight ends is Kyle Pitts. Our flex player is 1299 01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:27,320 Speaker 2: Naujie Harris the Jets defense, and ky Fair Barn is 1300 01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:30,840 Speaker 2: our kicker. On our bench, we have Zach Sharboney, Jayden Daniels, 1301 01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:34,840 Speaker 2: Dontavian Wicks, Khalil Shakir, Luke Musgrave, DeMarcus Robinson. Now we 1302 01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:38,400 Speaker 2: went a little more upside potential on the bench there, 1303 01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:42,720 Speaker 2: and we're maybe a little short at running back. 1304 01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:44,760 Speaker 3: Yes, I don't love our I don't see a league 1305 01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:49,840 Speaker 3: winning running back there. Yeah, potentially it's good. I probably 1306 01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:52,760 Speaker 3: would give it a B minus, not a C minus. 1307 01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,320 Speaker 3: It's not one of my favorite drafts that we've done. 1308 01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,760 Speaker 3: I like Walker, but I felt like we kind of 1309 01:02:58,840 --> 01:02:59,960 Speaker 3: had to go running back there. 1310 01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:00,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1311 01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:04,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, the way the draft fell, uh So looking at 1312 01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:09,840 Speaker 2: the teams here, the team that picked first took running 1313 01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,800 Speaker 2: back running back Christian McCaffrey Dereck Henry to start the draft. 1314 01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,920 Speaker 2: That could be pretty much, but they're old. They are old. 1315 01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,000 Speaker 2: I mean, what if they both hit the wall. The 1316 01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:22,919 Speaker 2: team that picked eighth when Brest Hall, Travis atn Devin 1317 01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,840 Speaker 2: at Chan. I don't like the eight ten part, but 1318 01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,960 Speaker 2: I would love Hall in the first wide receiver there. 1319 01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,320 Speaker 2: In eighteen. They then went C. J. Stroud in the 1320 01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:34,280 Speaker 2: fourth round. So the receivers are Christian kirk Keenan Allen, 1321 01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:35,160 Speaker 2: Jayden reed. 1322 01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:37,600 Speaker 3: It's not horrible, but that's not the approach I would 1323 01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:39,080 Speaker 3: take you now, Like if you were taken a receiver 1324 01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:39,840 Speaker 3: and said at. 1325 01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,360 Speaker 2: N that's lit worldly for Stroud for me too. He 1326 01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:45,000 Speaker 2: isn't run the team that picked ahead of us at 1327 01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:48,680 Speaker 2: nine when a j Brown, Brandon a Jaylen Waddle, that 1328 01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,080 Speaker 2: could be good, could be but yeah, but they also 1329 01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:55,120 Speaker 2: got you know what kind of running backs do they 1330 01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:57,240 Speaker 2: end up with? Ended up with Joe Mixon and Zamir White. 1331 01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:59,680 Speaker 2: They're just volume guys that aren't breaking. Yeah, and they 1332 01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:03,200 Speaker 2: took McLaurin, Jake Ferguson, Tony Paul. Why would you take 1333 01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:08,200 Speaker 2: their quarterback? Justin Herbert backed up by Tua herbertot her too. Yeah, 1334 01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:15,560 Speaker 2: he's out until the season opener. Yeah. Yeah, Saquon Barkley 1335 01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,640 Speaker 2: Jamir Gibbs was team eleven. They end up with Nico 1336 01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:21,680 Speaker 2: Collins as their number one. Uh. They then took Rashad 1337 01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:25,640 Speaker 2: White and t Higgins, Dalton Kincaid, DeAndre Hopkins, lab Mconkie, 1338 01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,360 Speaker 2: key On Coleman. Dak Prescott is the quarterback. So you 1339 01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:31,800 Speaker 2: can wait. That's a nice waight there. Yeah. 1340 01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,800 Speaker 3: I don't love what they did by waiting, but I 1341 01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:37,640 Speaker 3: like the move the weight there. I mean, they could 1342 01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,760 Speaker 3: lead the league in pass the towns. Oh absolutely, I 1343 01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:42,600 Speaker 3: think they did last year. Yeah, absolutely. 1344 01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,800 Speaker 2: But yeah, so that's a little fantasy draft there. We'll 1345 01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:48,320 Speaker 2: change gears here a little bit and talk a little 1346 01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:53,240 Speaker 2: more NFL stuff here. As you mentioned justin Herbert with 1347 01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:57,080 Speaker 2: the foot injury planner for Fascia Toy those Linger too, 1348 01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:00,000 Speaker 2: those are problems. Yeah, and I'm sure. 1349 01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:02,360 Speaker 3: I mean he's one of the things you have to 1350 01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:06,600 Speaker 3: worry about least with with the Chargers team. But it's 1351 01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:09,960 Speaker 3: all new changes, you know. I mean, he's the leader. 1352 01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:13,760 Speaker 3: He's a great young player. That's kind of reminds me 1353 01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:16,120 Speaker 3: of like Burrow in camp last year, or you know, 1354 01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:18,760 Speaker 3: is he gonna start the season strong in a new offense. 1355 01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:22,120 Speaker 3: I have my doubts, and that injury lingers like crazy. 1356 01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:23,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1357 01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,720 Speaker 3: From what I understand how it works, and I hate 1358 01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:31,520 Speaker 3: talking doctor stuff, is it's your it's your heel. It's 1359 01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:34,640 Speaker 3: that it's like that tendon or whatever that like connects 1360 01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:36,880 Speaker 3: to all your foot to your heel, and it heals 1361 01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,280 Speaker 3: a little bit every day, and then you wake up 1362 01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:41,920 Speaker 3: and you like break it again, and it like rips 1363 01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,600 Speaker 3: every morning, and then each day. 1364 01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:46,880 Speaker 2: Is just a little worse but or a little better. 1365 01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:51,240 Speaker 2: But it's frustrating. Yeah, and painful and painful, right, very painful. 1366 01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:54,840 Speaker 2: As I mentioned, Amarius Mims left on a cart. They 1367 01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:58,360 Speaker 2: took him to the hospital yesterday for the Bengals. He 1368 01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:00,880 Speaker 2: seems to be okay, he said, he's he's he said 1369 01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:03,240 Speaker 2: he's okay. What type of injury was that that? I 1370 01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:06,160 Speaker 2: didn't see what what the injury exactly was. Let's see 1371 01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:06,919 Speaker 2: what they what they. 1372 01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:08,480 Speaker 3: Had wonder was such a big guy. Was it like 1373 01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:11,320 Speaker 3: heat troke or heat exhaustion or something like that. 1374 01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:16,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody do. We'll figure it out. Yeah, but he 1375 01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:18,720 Speaker 2: needs every rep he can get too. Absolutely, he didn't 1376 01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,040 Speaker 2: play much in college. That was a problem. That was 1377 01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:22,240 Speaker 2: one of the problems for him. 1378 01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:25,000 Speaker 3: You would think the plan with him, like if he'd 1379 01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:26,320 Speaker 3: be in the Steelers right now, I'd be like, he 1380 01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,240 Speaker 3: needs to be out there every snap. He needs to 1381 01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:31,440 Speaker 3: be out there a ton in the preseason and maybe 1382 01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:32,560 Speaker 3: that's gonna slow him down to. 1383 01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:34,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll see how that goes. 1384 01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:34,600 Speaker 1: Uh. 1385 01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:38,440 Speaker 2: Looking at that Bengals team and where the heck did 1386 01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:46,320 Speaker 2: that go? I hate how they do this. They burrow 1387 01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:50,480 Speaker 2: At this point, I believe has been the only quarterback 1388 01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:54,720 Speaker 2: in the division who is who is I believe taking 1389 01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:56,120 Speaker 2: every snap in camp. 1390 01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:59,280 Speaker 3: Who's been available for every pride and totally available. I 1391 01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:01,800 Speaker 3: think you're right, You're think right. Lamar's had some illnesses. 1392 01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,360 Speaker 3: We know what's going on here with Russ. I think 1393 01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,680 Speaker 3: Watson had something, and plus he was coming back from 1394 01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:08,960 Speaker 3: big injury. I think they wanted to bring him in slow. Yeah, 1395 01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:11,200 Speaker 3: usually the opposite with Borrow. 1396 01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:14,840 Speaker 2: John Harbaugh reaffirmed that Justice Hill will have a major 1397 01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:17,760 Speaker 2: role as the backup running back to Derrick Henry. 1398 01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:20,240 Speaker 3: He just hangs around. I never quite get it. Maybe 1399 01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:23,640 Speaker 3: he's better on special teams. And I know, I think 1400 01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:26,880 Speaker 3: they wanted to be Keaton Mitchell, who couldn't be any different. 1401 01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:29,240 Speaker 3: But he's gonna be out a while. So very big 1402 01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:31,280 Speaker 3: and he's tiny, right yeah, right, but he's gonna be 1403 01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:36,240 Speaker 3: out a while. And you saw the Hopkins stuff too, right, Yeah, yeah, 1404 01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:37,400 Speaker 3: he's gonna be out four. 1405 01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:40,240 Speaker 2: To six weeks. It's significant. 1406 01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:43,080 Speaker 3: It's significant, right, Yeah, that mean a guy like Burps 1407 01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,160 Speaker 3: gets a bump or maybe I don't know, Yeah, I 1408 01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:46,840 Speaker 3: don't know, but at least they did did address a 1409 01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:47,560 Speaker 3: receiver position. 1410 01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:52,880 Speaker 2: Deontay Foreman is doing better after being he had a 1411 01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,960 Speaker 2: blow to the neck that led to him being immobilized 1412 01:07:56,000 --> 01:08:00,200 Speaker 2: and transported to a medical center for further evaluation. Are 1413 01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:03,120 Speaker 2: going X rays and cat scans. They all came back negative, 1414 01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,920 Speaker 2: but they're kind of counting. Cleveland's counting on Deontay Forman 1415 01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:07,200 Speaker 2: a little bit. I don't think you can count on 1416 01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:10,160 Speaker 2: Shubb and I think Ford's droomed forward is just a guy. Yeah, 1417 01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:11,880 Speaker 2: I get for him a credit man. 1418 01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:15,280 Speaker 3: I mean, he came back from a really serious Achilles 1419 01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:17,240 Speaker 3: He's one of the only running backs in history that's 1420 01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:22,800 Speaker 3: had success post Achilles tear. He runs hard and he's 1421 01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:24,680 Speaker 3: one of those guys if he's coach, have a hard 1422 01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:27,880 Speaker 3: time cutting him. You know, he couldn't protection solid, gets 1423 01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:30,000 Speaker 3: what's there in a little bit more does his assignment. 1424 01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:32,639 Speaker 3: He's been a bunch of teams. He's not special anymore, 1425 01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:34,760 Speaker 3: but good for you to have a career like that 1426 01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:36,080 Speaker 3: after dealing with what he did. 1427 01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:39,160 Speaker 2: As I mentioned, Deshaun Watson's been in and out of practice. 1428 01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:41,479 Speaker 2: He had a scheduled off day yesterday to rest his 1429 01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:44,559 Speaker 2: surgically repaired shoulder. That's significant. I don't I don't think 1430 01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:46,920 Speaker 2: people are talking about that one enough. I know that 1431 01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,600 Speaker 2: he had shoulder surgery in the offseason. 1432 01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:52,880 Speaker 3: And there's so many things going against him, contract, off 1433 01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:55,639 Speaker 3: the field, what they gave up for him, all that stuff. 1434 01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:58,040 Speaker 3: But injuries have been right there with all of them. 1435 01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:01,280 Speaker 3: I mean, poor play is the biggest problem really, but 1436 01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:05,640 Speaker 3: he can't stay healthy either right now. And a shoulder, like, 1437 01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:07,760 Speaker 3: I think that's still a thing for him. Yeah, something 1438 01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:08,479 Speaker 3: right out of the woods. 1439 01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,080 Speaker 2: Some of the videos I've seen him throwing up there. 1440 01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:14,080 Speaker 2: I mean he's throwing interceptions, He's not the ball doesn't 1441 01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:15,720 Speaker 2: look good coming out of his hand. I haven't heard 1442 01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,240 Speaker 2: anything good yet, No, not at all, right right, Like, 1443 01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:22,880 Speaker 2: I think they could be maybe bad. I think Jameis 1444 01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:25,920 Speaker 2: Winston might play games, yeah, you know what I mean, Like, 1445 01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:27,240 Speaker 2: you don't all of a sudden, you don't have Nick 1446 01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:29,400 Speaker 2: Chubb out there to run the ball. And I understand 1447 01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:30,960 Speaker 2: they didn't have that the entire second half, but they 1448 01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:33,080 Speaker 2: also went to Joe Flacco because they went to more 1449 01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:36,559 Speaker 2: of a passing offense. We always don't have Flaco. You're 1450 01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:38,839 Speaker 2: gonna you're gonna be counting on Watson to throw the football. 1451 01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:41,040 Speaker 3: We always talk about actions and money. You speak louder 1452 01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:44,360 Speaker 3: than coaching words. You got and sign Huntley and Winston. 1453 01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:47,320 Speaker 3: That's weird. You know, you have a true starter that's 1454 01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:49,360 Speaker 3: like the most expensive guy in the league, and you 1455 01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:52,080 Speaker 3: try it, you try, you go get two true number 1456 01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:56,000 Speaker 3: twos because they like dtr enough that he was a 1457 01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:59,439 Speaker 3: fine three. Yeah, he's cheap, and now their quarterback room 1458 01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:01,439 Speaker 3: is even. You're not going to keep four, I would 1459 01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:03,400 Speaker 3: assume not. I mean, no one will give you anything 1460 01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:05,400 Speaker 3: for Huntley or Winston or they would signed him, right, 1461 01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:06,120 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1462 01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:10,160 Speaker 2: Elijah Moore also left their practice with a concussion yesterday. 1463 01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:13,320 Speaker 3: Okay, so something worth to keep an eye on. I 1464 01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:15,599 Speaker 3: imagine he doesn't play preseason opener. 1465 01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of a look around the AFC North 1466 01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:21,559 Speaker 2: at what's going on there. Of course, the Steelers practicing 1467 01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:26,080 Speaker 2: tonight over for their Friday Night Lights practice and should 1468 01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:28,840 Speaker 2: be a physical practice. We've seen he is, seen him 1469 01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:33,240 Speaker 2: get through these first few practices without any major injuries. 1470 01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:35,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, knock on wood on that. Revan Wilson has me 1471 01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:38,200 Speaker 3: a little concern. But oh, in all, I mean some 1472 01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:41,160 Speaker 3: bumps and bruises, and there were two or three things 1473 01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:45,439 Speaker 3: like Rodney Williams, Roderick Jones where I went, oh no, 1474 01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:47,160 Speaker 3: and then they were back a day later. 1475 01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:50,639 Speaker 2: I have noticed Broderick he kind of tweaked that elbow 1476 01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:53,519 Speaker 2: the one day and he is wearing a brace on 1477 01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:56,080 Speaker 2: that elbow now, so I wonder if he hyper excited 1478 01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:58,479 Speaker 2: it a little bit. But he hasn't missed time. No, 1479 01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:00,680 Speaker 2: he was back in that practice. He's a tough guy 1480 01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:03,559 Speaker 2: like that. Man, He's definitely a tough guy. Yeah, kind 1481 01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:06,280 Speaker 2: of a tone setter. They get a lot of tone 1482 01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:07,479 Speaker 2: setters on that line now. 1483 01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:09,559 Speaker 3: Even like a Herbig who's not a first round pick 1484 01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:12,400 Speaker 3: or anything like that. He plays hard. Spencer Anderson plays hard, 1485 01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:14,760 Speaker 3: Sam Malo and all three of the rookie of the 1486 01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:16,599 Speaker 3: young guys McCormick. 1487 01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:19,519 Speaker 2: McCormick was mixing it up. Really been impressed with like 1488 01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:22,439 Speaker 2: their second team line in the preseason game lines. Yeah, 1489 01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:24,200 Speaker 2: is going to be interesting to watch. 1490 01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:26,200 Speaker 3: I think he'll be as good as any Again, I 1491 01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:29,000 Speaker 3: think they have ten legit guys, all of whom have 1492 01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:32,040 Speaker 3: pretty distinct positions. You know, they have four tackles, four 1493 01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:33,960 Speaker 3: guards to center, you know what I mean. Yeah, so 1494 01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:36,120 Speaker 3: they get little bit of a position, a lot of 1495 01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:36,599 Speaker 3: depth there. 1496 01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:40,880 Speaker 2: Again, when you start counting numbers with this team, and you, okay, 1497 01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:44,120 Speaker 2: if you're gonna keep four tight ends in three running 1498 01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:48,120 Speaker 2: backs quarters, you only keep five wide receivers, but you're 1499 01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:50,679 Speaker 2: still probably need to steal a spot somewhere on that offense. 1500 01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:51,720 Speaker 2: You know, on that offense, I. 1501 01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:54,519 Speaker 3: Think nine's probably the O line number and they have ten. 1502 01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:55,880 Speaker 3: There's none of those guys I want to cut. I 1503 01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:57,200 Speaker 3: don't want to cut cook. I don't want to cut. 1504 01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:00,439 Speaker 3: I understand what care you get in trade? I guess yeah, 1505 01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:03,360 Speaker 3: or hopefully they're all healthy that you can trade one 1506 01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:03,639 Speaker 3: of them. 1507 01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:05,960 Speaker 2: Right, So that's that's something to keep an eye on. 1508 01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:09,559 Speaker 2: The same thing defensive line. Like you start counting numbers 1509 01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:11,559 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden you're like, okay, we're maybe 1510 01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:13,559 Speaker 2: you got seven of guys with louder Milk. 1511 01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:15,439 Speaker 3: Idn't think he's in trouble, you know, I mean, or 1512 01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:18,320 Speaker 3: needs to do more. At least they like Loudermilk. I know, 1513 01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:20,560 Speaker 3: I know, But I don't think Lowery's in cut. I 1514 01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:23,559 Speaker 3: don't think Adams is getting cut. You need to see 1515 01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:25,840 Speaker 3: Lowery on the field here, that'd be nice, that'd be nice. Yeah, 1516 01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:28,599 Speaker 3: but he's a pretty proven track record. Yeah, there's pro 1517 01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:31,000 Speaker 3: I would like to see him soon though. Yeah, I 1518 01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:32,559 Speaker 3: think he is going close news. 1519 01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:37,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, linebackers same, you know they keep four 1520 01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:40,000 Speaker 2: or five Matta Kaevitch is one. I think they keep five. 1521 01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:42,599 Speaker 2: I think Robinson is uh. I think he's in trouble. 1522 01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:43,800 Speaker 2: He might be in trouble this year. 1523 01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:47,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, and signing Golden that's one of the fifty three. Yeah, 1524 01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:49,840 Speaker 3: I mean that they didn't have yesterday, you know, so 1525 01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:52,519 Speaker 3: as is the case. I mean, there will be some 1526 01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:56,080 Speaker 3: tough cuts, there's no question about that. I just don't 1527 01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:58,080 Speaker 3: think there's a chance they add somebody else from outside 1528 01:12:58,120 --> 01:12:58,840 Speaker 3: the organization too. 1529 01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:01,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's again, would change the change the 1530 01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:04,280 Speaker 2: dynamic of the numbers there, without a doubt, without a doubt. 1531 01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:05,760 Speaker 2: But I think you know, when they when they get 1532 01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:08,320 Speaker 2: down to cut, this is gonna be tough cut this year. Yeah, 1533 01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:08,560 Speaker 2: it is. 1534 01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,599 Speaker 3: I still don't know what to make a corner outside 1535 01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:15,120 Speaker 3: of you know what Sutton is, you know his situation, 1536 01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:18,200 Speaker 3: you know the two starting outside guys, both of whom 1537 01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:20,240 Speaker 3: have I think have looked really good. I think Jackson's 1538 01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:23,479 Speaker 3: looked quite good. Other than that, I don't know exactly 1539 01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:25,840 Speaker 3: what to think of corner. But there's talent and there's 1540 01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,840 Speaker 3: size and length, and you know, we'll see who steps up. 1541 01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:33,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that that's uh, definitely something to watch here 1542 01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:36,519 Speaker 2: as we move forward here into week basically week two, 1543 01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:40,600 Speaker 2: because yeah, I think one was that first week is 1544 01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:43,920 Speaker 2: not in pads, you know, really training camp started on Tuesday. 1545 01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:45,640 Speaker 3: I say, the dog days are starting to kind of 1546 01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:48,240 Speaker 3: settle in a little bit. It's gotten a little bit hotter. 1547 01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:51,000 Speaker 3: Friday Night Lights is always a I guess kind of 1548 01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:54,920 Speaker 3: like halftime, yeah, give or take, you know. So the 1549 01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:56,879 Speaker 3: preseason games are right around. 1550 01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:58,719 Speaker 2: The corner, Right around the corner again, we always sneak 1551 01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:00,519 Speaker 2: up on a week from today, the steel will be 1552 01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:03,479 Speaker 2: playing their first preseason game. Can't wait for that to happen. 1553 01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:06,560 Speaker 2: Can't wait for Friday Night Lights tonight and see what 1554 01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:07,479 Speaker 2: happens with all that. 1555 01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:10,160 Speaker 3: But Matt, that's going to do it for our show 1556 01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:13,479 Speaker 3: today and tomorrow we'll have we'll be on during practice 1557 01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,760 Speaker 3: three to five. Yeah yeah, I mean that's the weekend thing. 1558 01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:17,680 Speaker 3: And will Friday Night Lights to review yep. 1559 01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:19,839 Speaker 2: And then when we come back for our regular weekday 1560 01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:23,639 Speaker 2: schedule starting next Tuesday, Rob will be back with us yep. Yep. 1561 01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:26,080 Speaker 2: So there we go. We'll have that. Man. It's fun, 1562 01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:28,800 Speaker 2: absolutely moving along with training camp here that it's a 1563 01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:32,200 Speaker 2: definitely a moving train that you never never slows down, 1564 01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:36,240 Speaker 2: never slows down. Hopefully we get weather issues resolved tonight too. Yeah, 1565 01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:39,080 Speaker 2: things change on a daily basis, but that's going to 1566 01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:40,920 Speaker 2: do it for our show today. So for my partner 1567 01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:43,920 Speaker 2: Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller back on site keeping us 1568 01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:46,639 Speaker 2: on the air as he always does, I'm Dale, Lolly. 1569 01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:49,080 Speaker 2: We appreciate you listening to this edition of the Drive 1570 01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:52,240 Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio and Fox Sports Pittsburgh.