1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: On this episode of Newsworld. One of the most intriguing 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: television personalities somebody I learned a great deal from during 3 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: the time he was at Fox. Just remarkably dominant as 4 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: a commentator. And not only is he a great TV journalist, 5 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: is a remarkable life doing many things, but in particular 6 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: I'm impressed with his ability to develop an entire approach 7 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: to history that is fascinating reading and has found a 8 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: real audience. His newest book, Killing the Mob, The Fight 9 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: Against Organized Crime in America, comes out May fourth. This 10 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: will be the tenth book in the series that includes 11 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: several national bestsellers, sales of nearly eighteen million copies and 12 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: over three hundred and twenty weeks on the New York 13 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: Times bestseller list. In Killing the Mob, Bell traces the 14 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: brutal history of twentieth centuryanized crime in the US and 15 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: tells the story of this nation's most notorious serial robbers, conmen, 16 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: and mob family bosses. He covers the prey from the 17 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: thirties to the eighties and traces the Prohibition busting bank 18 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: robbers of the Depression era such as Bonnie and Clyde, 19 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: Pretty Boy Floyd, and Baby Faced Nelson. In addition, he 20 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: looks at the creation of the Mafia Commission, the power 21 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: struggles within the Five Families, the battles to control Cuba, 22 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: Las Vegas, and Hollywood, as well as the personal war 23 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: between the US Attorney General Bobby Kennedy and the legendary 24 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: Teamster's boss Jimmy Hoffer. So I'm delighted to welcome my 25 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,279 Speaker 1: good friend and my guest, Bill O'Reilly, author of Killing 26 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: Them Off, the Fight against Organized crime in America. I 27 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: wanted to just froment the work you do on No 28 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: Spin News. I want to take just a minute first 29 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: and get your sense of where we are, what's going on. 30 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: Then what you think will happen with the speech tonight 31 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: and a whole movement towards defunding the police and so forth. 32 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: What's your take on things? Well, from my perch, we 33 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: do a daily television newscast on the No Spin News 34 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: Bill O'Reilly dot com, which is syndicated out now, so 35 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: a lot of people get to see it. And what 36 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: I've always tried to do in my entire career was 37 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: look at things objectively, not emotionally, and not through an 38 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: ideological prism. I'm not a party apparation Nick. As you know, 39 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: mister speaker, I don't analyze the news from that perch. 40 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: So when Donald Trump was defeated, I knew that he 41 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: had lost the election the day after the vote. While 42 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: a lot of conservative and Trump voters didn't believe that, 43 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: I knew that it was true because I understood at 44 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: the combination of the media and the unsettling of mister 45 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: Trump's approach that alienated a lot of Americans, particularly women. 46 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: It wasn't his policy so much, it was the way 47 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: he conducted himself. And then you throw in COVID chaos 48 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: and fear. It would have been almost impossible for any 49 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: incumbent to be reelected, and he did get seventy two 50 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:32,119 Speaker 1: million votes, far more than any other Republican candidate who 51 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: ever ran for president. So it wasn't that the nation 52 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: was wanting Joe Biden. It was a referendum and Donald Trump. 53 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: So when Biden took over, I wanted to be fair 54 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: to the man, and I didn't buy into the fact 55 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: that he was diminished mentally. I wanted to see what 56 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: exactly he would put forth, and it took me about 57 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: forty eight hours to make two determinations. The first that 58 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: he is indeed mentally diminished. He does not understand a 59 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: lot of the things that he is doing, and you 60 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: could see that in the executive order to basically blow 61 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: up border security. There's nobody on earth who could look 62 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: at that executive order and say that has been a 63 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: positive thing for anyone, Yet he did it. Does he 64 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: understand the damage not only to the United States but 65 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: to the migarets themselves. I do not believe he does. 66 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: I don't think he is capable of making that kind 67 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: of a determination. Secondly, I wanted to see if Biden 68 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: was going to put any pushback to the progressive left, socialists, 69 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: the Bernie Sanders, the Elizabeth Warrens. Not only has he 70 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: not pushed back, but he has embraced socialism. So those 71 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: two things have put Obiden in my mind now as 72 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: a dangerous man. I believe he is the most liberal 73 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: president in American history. No one else is even close, 74 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: not even Franklin Roosevelt. And I'm coming at this not 75 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: only as a journalist but as a historian, and I 76 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: think that Americans have got to wake up to the 77 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: danger or every one of us is going to see 78 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 1: a far different country in five years than we have 79 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: now we know part of that change is already underway 80 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: with what's happened with defunding the police, the whole attitude 81 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: about including most of the news media focusing on incidents 82 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: that involve police and people being killed. New York head 83 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: I think last weekend fifty five people shot, which was 84 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: I think a record for New York and actually outpaced Chicago, 85 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: which normally is the most violent place in the country. 86 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: And now he seemed to have a huge number of 87 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: policeman who are retiring, I think bigger and bigger problems 88 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: replacing him. They have something like fifty three hundred New 89 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: York Police Deparmnopsis have either retired or submitted paperwork to 90 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: leave the force, which was a seventy five percent increase 91 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: from the previous year. What's your taking this whole stunning 92 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: increase in violence and in crime. It's all part of 93 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: the far left progressive movement's plan, very well executed plan, 94 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: by the way, to change the capitalistic system in America. 95 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: That's the root of all of this. The spear point 96 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: is the Black Lives Matter Global Foundation. So what has 97 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: happened is with the absolute compliance of the corrupt corporate media, 98 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: they're enabling this, the Black Lives Matter movement is creating 99 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: so much term oil and chaos among working class and 100 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: poor Americans that the progressives know they can create a 101 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: system whereby a strong central government is going to have 102 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: to come in and take over local and state policing. 103 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: That's number one. I want that all right now. If 104 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: you have a Portland, Oregon, in Chicago and New York 105 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: City where people fear to even come outside, then you're 106 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: going to have to call in the federal government to 107 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: stabilize that and take over local policing. The second prong 108 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: is education critical race theory. So now you're going to 109 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: get eight and nine year old children being told that 110 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: white Americans are bad and that they have to accept 111 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: that and change that. And the only way they can 112 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: change it is to support a strong central social government 113 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: in Washington. That's why this is happening. So if you 114 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: undermine law enforcement, law and order, you create what disorder. 115 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: If you create disorder, the only mechanism to control it 116 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: is a strong central government. That's what the Nazis did, 117 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: stalonded Mouth did, Fidel did. They all did the same thing. 118 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: It's a playbook. You pit frighten people who feel they're 119 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: being persecuted against the wealthy white supremacist establishment. You pit 120 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: them against each other, and then you tear the country 121 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 1: down in order to build up this great socialist monument. 122 00:08:54,120 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: That's what's going on. So in a sense, the kind 123 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: of violence that we're seeing today is very different from 124 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 1: the kind of violence that you cover and Killing the Mob. 125 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: What attracted you to that book as a concept, Well, 126 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 1: if you look at America, it's been an evolution. And 127 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: as you pointed out as the tenth Killing book, and 128 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: if you read them all, we begin in the American 129 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: Revolution with killing England, and would take you through the 130 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: Civil War, killing Lincoln, and we take you up to 131 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: World War Two. Three books on that and how this 132 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:54,239 Speaker 1: whole country has evolved. Well, I always knew that organized 133 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: crime was a tremendous force in America, but I had 134 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: no blanket idea how dominant it became after World War Two. 135 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: The keystone to that was General George Patton. And nobody 136 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: knows this, mister speaker. I don't even know if you 137 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: know it. And you're one of the smartest guys in 138 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 1: the country, I don't even know if you know it. 139 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: But Patton was in North Africa and he had defeated Rommel. 140 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: The Americans in the British had defeated Rommel, all right, 141 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: and now they had to invade Europe. Okay, so they 142 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: wanted to land in Sicily. Who controlled Sicily the maffia. 143 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: So the American Intelligence Agency made a deal with the 144 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 1: organized crime component in Sicily through a man named Lucky Luciano. 145 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: You've heard that name, right. Lucciano was the most powerful 146 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 1: mafia guy in the world. And he was in New 147 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: York in a penitentiary. He was in a penitentiary. Okay, 148 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: you made a deal. You let me out and I'll 149 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: tell my friends to cooperate with the Allied invasion. That 150 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: means they'll give you maps, they'll kill Nazis, they'll make 151 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: it easier for the Third Army to invade, which is 152 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: exactly what happened. In return, Luciano got out, but they 153 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: deported him. Do we deported him? The governor of New York. However, 154 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: part of the deal was that the mafioso's in Sicily 155 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: who wanted to come to the United States cut and 156 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 1: a flood of them came to New York and they 157 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: all took over the unions, and from that point on, 158 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: organized crime grew so powerful because there were no federal 159 00:11:56,240 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: agency regulating them. Hoover, JEdgar Hoover, and that's why I 160 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: get into the monsters in the thirties, Al Capone and 161 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 1: John Dillinger and all of this. The FBI was formed 162 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: to get them, all right, That's how Hoover got to 163 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: the FBI, because they had to get these guys under control. 164 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: They were racing from state to state stealing staggering amounts 165 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: of money. But once World War Two ended, the Italians 166 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 1: stormed into New York, took over all the unions, ran 167 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: all the rackets, and amassed an amazing amount of power. 168 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: And the federal government did nothing. And the excuse was 169 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: we have to fight communism. That Hoover took the FBI. 170 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: But what we believe, I cannot prove this is that 171 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: the mafia had compromising material on Ja Hoover and that's 172 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: why they FPI didn't do anything about the money. But 173 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: that ultamly changes. Doesn't in the fifties, It changes in 174 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: the sixties. Bobby Kennedy, all right, So Kennedy when he 175 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: took over his attorney general, his brother President Kenny appointed 176 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: him that he ferociously went after the Mob, But at 177 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: that point organized crime dominated ready politics, music industry, Frank Sinatra, 178 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: Tony Bennett, rock and roll, all of that. They owned 179 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: all the nightclubs, they did all the paola. The movie industry, 180 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: Sydney Corshack Okay took his orders from Gancana in Chicago 181 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: and the Five Families in New York. They dominated the 182 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: movie industry. They financed the movies. The moguls did what 183 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: they were told, and all of that money that flowed 184 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: in they built Las Vegas. And the only reason they 185 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: didn't dominate Cuba was because Castro took over and threw 186 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: them out. So they were so powerful. Organized crime was 187 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: so powerful in his country, and they didn't fear anybody 188 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 1: all right, because they knew the Feds weren't going to 189 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: do anything to him. And they a mask and a 190 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: mask and a mask. And finally Bobby Kennedy came in 191 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: and attacked them ferociously, took out Kimi Hafa, the team 192 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: Stiss union head who was linked to the Mob, because 193 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: the Mob control all the unions. So it's a fascinating tale, 194 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: much wider than most people believe. You know. They think, oh, well, 195 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: these gangsters, they stay in their own little world. Organized 196 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: crime influenced everything we do in America even today. When 197 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: you say, what do you mean even today, Well, it's 198 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: a different structure now. It's almost like a franchise. So 199 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: narcotics is the big moneymaker today, all right, billions and 200 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: billions of dollars. In fact, the cartels run Mexico. It's 201 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: not like there's a fight between the Mexican government and 202 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: the cartels. Cartels have won that. They run the country, 203 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: and they're deeply involved, of course, in the illegal immigration. 204 00:14:55,160 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: But the narcotics, now, the Italian mob doesn't retail it anymore. 205 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: They have farmed that out to various gangs, which is 206 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: why you see all these murders in Chicago and New York. 207 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: These are committed by drug gangs that are fighting for turf. 208 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: But they all have to give a piece to the mafia. 209 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: They have to give a piece of what they call 210 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: vig and every month they have to send noval suitcases 211 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: for money to the guys who are living in Scarsdale, 212 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: New York. That's the way it's run now. Because of 213 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: the Rico Statute, the federal government will aggressively go after 214 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: these people now, where as under Jago Hoover and the FBI. 215 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: They did not. So have they in that sense reached 216 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: some kind of agreement to live with the Colombian and 217 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: Mexican and other cartels. The Mob of the American Mafia, Yeah, 218 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: I mean they like them because they do all the lifting. 219 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: They get all the drugs into the United States. It 220 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: used to be the friend connection that the Mafia would 221 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: have to finance, the Marseille and New York heroine connection. 222 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: They don't have to do that anymore. All these guys 223 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: do is sit in their big houses all over the 224 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: country because each area has its own family structure Mob 225 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: family structure. In Killing the Mob, we name all the 226 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: guys even today, I mean John Gotti's in the book. 227 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: I mean we go up to today. But they love 228 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: the Mexican cartels and the Colombians and all of that 229 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: because they're responsible for getting the drugs into the United States. 230 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: Once they're here, then the Italian Mob regulates the distribution 231 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: through the local gangs. And that's why, as I said, 232 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: you're seeing this horrific murder rate in Chicago, because the 233 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: black drug gangs are trying to kill each other, and 234 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: then the innocent people are taught and across fire. What 235 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: share of the kind of murders and random shootings we 236 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: see in these big cities, what share that relates to 237 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: drugs into organized crime? Seventy five? The murder rates that 238 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: you see, the horrific murder rates in New York and 239 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: in Detroit, in Chicago, in some areas of LA are 240 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: all ethnic gangs, all of it. It's not like people 241 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: going out and just shooting down tourists. That's what's happening. 242 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: These are people who are trying to make as much 243 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,959 Speaker 1: money selling drugs as possible. And if you're in that business, 244 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: you have no morals. You can't sell hard drugs and 245 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: have morals. So if you want to shoot somebody to 246 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: make more money, you're gonna do it. And that's what's happening, 247 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: and the media will never tell you the truth about it. 248 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: Does Biden even know this? I mean how I'm gonna 249 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: send him a copy of Killing the Mob, an autographic copy. 250 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: By the way, missus speaker, do you think Joe Biga 251 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: sit down and read that book? Do you think he's 252 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: capable of reading that book? Yeah, that's picture. I don't 253 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: think the man is capable of doing that, of sitting 254 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: down are in a three hundred page book that would 255 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: tell him stuff that he has no blanking clue about 256 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: that's affecting public safety in the United States from coast 257 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: to coast. Actually did not know about. When Luciano gets 258 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 1: out of prison, commuted by the New York Governor Tom Dewey, 259 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: who had made a reputation as an attorney general who 260 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: is tough on crime, but then because of the deal 261 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: they've made in the war, he lets look at lucianoa 262 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: as Luciano is consolidating his control. As you reported, I 263 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: was not aware of this. There's this week long Havana 264 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: conference after World War Two. This is like a bad movie. 265 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: And all these guys showing up with their girlfriends and 266 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: the busts of trunks of clothing and surrounded by their bodyguards. 267 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: So that I guess for every mobster you have to 268 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: have three or four bodyguards. I mean, that week would 269 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: be an amazing movie. And who was the entertainment. Do 270 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 1: you remember who the entertainment at the hotel nationally now 271 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 1: was no Frank Sinatra. I said, I was going to 272 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 1: guess Sinatra. A variation on Sinatra course showed up in 273 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: the Godfather, And I think that Sinatra was always bitter because, 274 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 1: if the story is correct, Joe Kennedy the father, cut 275 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 1: a deal with the mafia to help John F. Kennedy 276 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 1: get the Democratic nomination. And when the election we have 277 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: that part in killing the mob where Sam Giancanna, who 278 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: was the godfather in Chicago, and he was the guy 279 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: who ran Sinatra, gene Connor ran Frank Sinatra. Sinatra was 280 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: in one of the mob. Gian Conna made a deal 281 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: with the elder Kennedy to deliver Illinois to JFK, which 282 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: he did, and that was enough that in West Virginia 283 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,479 Speaker 1: to give JFK the victory over Richard Nixon. Nixon knew it, 284 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: but the mob had something on Nixon, and that's why 285 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: he didn't make a big deal out of it. Doesn't 286 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: gian Kanna share a girlfriend with the President, Yes, Phillis McGuire, 287 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: remember the McGuire sisters. Yes, beautiful woman. So Phillis in 288 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: addition to being beautiful, was I guess, very energetic. She 289 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: a little dalliance with the President Kennedy, and then she 290 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: was Giancanna's main squeeze. I don't know if you can 291 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: say that, but we get into her. So gian Conna 292 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: delivers Illinois. He shares his girlfriend yes, and then Bobby 293 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: Kennedy apparently didn't get the joke because he decides to 294 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: become an intensely anti mob Attorney general even though the 295 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 1: Mob has done all this for his family. Bobby Kennedy 296 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: is a fascinating, fascinating guy. I spent a lot of 297 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: time with his eldest son researching this book, and from 298 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: what I can ascertain, and I am not a psychologist 299 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: or in Bobby Kennedy was the youngest and smallest of 300 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: the Kennedy boys and did not get the attention of 301 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: his father, Joseph Kennedy, this patriarch of the Kennedy family, 302 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: and resented it forever. And therefore, when Joseph Kennedy, his father, 303 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: Bobby's father, said I'll want to lay off the Mob, 304 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: that made him go after the mob even harder. But 305 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: a fascinating part of this is that JFK knew that 306 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: Bobby was going to do it and appointed him. Anyway, 307 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: JFK stayed out of it. He didn't want anything to 308 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: do with the mob because he knew they all knew. 309 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: But Bobby was ferocious, ferocious in how he attacked organized 310 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: crime and I admire him very much for that. Well, 311 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: it must have triggered a real sense of betrayal as 312 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: seen by the mob. Oh, they were crazed. They were crazed. 313 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: But you know, I wrote the book Killing Kennedy, and 314 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: in that book we detail exactly how JFK was assassinated. 315 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: The mob wanted JFK dead, They wanted to kill him, 316 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: but they didn't have the power to do it. They 317 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: didn't have the power to do it. However, they were 318 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: able to silence the mob was Jack Ruby, and they 319 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: were able to get Oswald dead. That was a mob hit, 320 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 1: all right, an Lee Harvey Oswald, but they didn't have enough. 321 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: They would have, but they didn't want that heat. Organized 322 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: crime is a business. They knew if they directly killed 323 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: a president and that was found out, that it would 324 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: be all over for them. So Oswald was a nut. 325 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: He was involved with crazy stuff, but he did it. 326 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: And again we chronicle that down to the last period 327 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: in Killing Kennedy. But when Oswald got killed, that was 328 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: Jack Ruby, and he was an organized crime guy. I've 329 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 1: went last year and saw The Irishman, which is sort 330 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: of a modern and different angle view of the mob, 331 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 1: and of course the Godfather is an extraordinary three part series. 332 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: I actually think Pozo's novel, the section on the Rise 333 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: of the god maybe as good a portrait of how 334 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: power is accumulated as anybody's ever written. But today, if 335 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: you were looking at politics in America, to what extent 336 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: do we have to be concerned about mob influence and 337 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: mob to somebody said control, and to what extent has 338 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: it been weakened by all of the law enforcement efforts 339 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: over the last half century. Well, the mob reached its 340 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: pinnacle of power in nineteen sixty two, and from then 341 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: on in it declined. And then when the federal government 342 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: passed a Rico statue, which I think you had something 343 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: to do with, that made it a conspiracy of felonious 344 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: conspiracy to even talk about importing narcotics or whacking somebody 345 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: or whatever you were setting up. Made it a lot 346 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 1: easier to get convictions. It changed a whole out look 347 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: of how organized crime did business. So now they're not 348 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: a threat to america instability as they were at one 349 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: time because they were bribing so many politicians. And in fact, 350 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 1: we have a section in the book where Luciano says 351 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: that he gave Thomas Dewey five hundred thousand dollars cash, 352 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: and also John Mitchell, the attorney general for Richard Nixon. 353 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 1: There is testimony from organized crime figures that they brabbed them. 354 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: Now is that true. I can't confirm it, but this 355 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: is what they publicly said. These organized crime guys. We 356 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: put names on all of that. I don't use any 357 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: anonymous sources in my books. So right now, they organized 358 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: crime in America. The problem with them and how it 359 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: affects every American is that they are corrupting the society. 360 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: So the fentanyl and the methanphetamine, and the cocaine and 361 00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: the heroine are all distributed by organized crime through the 362 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:06,959 Speaker 1: local gangs. That is a corrosive effect on the nation 363 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: and is responsible for seventy percent of the street crime 364 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: because addicts need money and they commit crimes in order 365 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: to get money to buy drugs. All this homeless stuff 366 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: that you see all over the place, that's all narcotics. 367 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: Those are all drug addictive people who have banded together 368 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:32,719 Speaker 1: in tens and squalor simply to use drugs because they 369 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: can't work and they can't do anything. That's all the 370 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: responsibility of organized crime. The mob in America because they're 371 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: the top level distributors. It's a pretty sobering view from 372 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: your perspective. Having really looked at this and produced killing 373 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: the mob, is it possible to break them? Look? You 374 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 1: know me, I'm a problem solver. That's why I was 375 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 1: successful for more than twenty years on the Fox News Channel. 376 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: What I brought to my news analysis was not only 377 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: a complaint but a solution. I could solve the crime 378 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: problem in New York and Chicago in two months if 379 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: I were in charge and had the ability given to 380 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: me by the city council to do what I wanted 381 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: to do. All right, So the authorities have more power 382 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: than the mom but they don't use it. In fact, 383 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: in New York it's the opposite. Now we let all 384 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: the drug dealers, the heroin dealers. And this is directly 385 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 1: on Barack Obama's doorstep, because Barack Obama, as you'll remember, 386 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 1: mister Speaker, came out and said selling hard drugs is 387 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: not a violent crime. That message then got into all 388 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: the liberal precincts. Oh yeah, you can sell heroin to 389 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: my nineteen year old and that's not so bad, So 390 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 1: you shouldn't go to prison. You should go to rehab 391 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: and we're not going to hold you on bail, all right, 392 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: totally ignoring the violence, extreme violence in all of the 393 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: narcotics industry from the street level on up. Okay, that's 394 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: Barack Obama. That's what he did, and he did it 395 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: because the overwhelming color of people trafficking in narcotics is black, 396 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: because they sell in the inner cities and destroy those neighborhoods. 397 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: So if the federal government or even the state government 398 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: decided to use the National Guard, decided to have draconian 399 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: penalties for drug dealing, all right, and I mean really 400 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: severe penalties, you could wipe it out, but they'll never 401 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,719 Speaker 1: do it. I did a thesis when I was at 402 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: the Kennedy School at Harvard on Singapore and how they 403 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: handled drugs. There is no drug problem in Singapore. There 404 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: are no drug addicts, and there are no drug dealers 405 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: because they kill the drug dealers. They execute them. And 406 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: if you're found with drugs in your bloodstream in Singapore 407 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: and cops can test anyone without a warrant, okay, you 408 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: go to a quote unquote rehab center for twenty two months, 409 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: so there's no market. That's how they solved their drug problem. Now. 410 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: You can't do that in the United States. I understand that, 411 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: but you can defeat the problem, but you got to 412 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: be one tough ombre in order to do it. I've 413 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: known you for years and I have zero doubt that 414 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: you were one tough ombre. I have no sympathy for 415 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: people who sell poison all right. In my family, I 416 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: have had people die from narcotics, and I know how 417 00:29:55,440 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: bad they are, and they are probably tenant right now. 418 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: The most corrosive element is narcotics traffic in the United States. 419 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: Should tell people something about how tough you are. That 420 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: you've now done ten books that start with the word 421 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: killing and obviously you have a huge fan club. Listen. 422 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: I really appreciate both what you're doing on television still 423 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: today and what you're doing really as a historian. I 424 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: think you can more than legitimately claim to be a 425 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: serious historian given the amount of work you've done and 426 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: the quality that works. So I'm really grateful Bill that 427 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: you'd share this with us, and I really want to 428 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: encourage people to get a copy of Killing Them, Bob. 429 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: I think they will find it absolutely fascinated. I really appreciate, 430 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: mister speaker. I'm glad you're doing well, and I hope 431 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: we can talk again real soon. 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