WEBVTT - “Never Too Late” Guest Ronne Brown and Changemaker Jamila T Davis 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:09.680 What's goodie, everybody. I'm to mak A D. Mallory and 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:12.920 I'm your boy general and we are your hosts of 0:00:13.000 --> 0:00:17.680 street Politicians, the place where the politics meet. We've got 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:22.280 an action pack show today, lots of information, things you 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:25.200 need to know, places you need to go, people you 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:29.520 need to see. Let's talk add that on the show. 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:34.280 Yeah yeah, but there's a lot happening in our show 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:36.640 this week. And first of all, let's just start off 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:41.200 by thanking all of you. Thank you so much. It's 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:44.159 in our minds. We're gonna be there, but we're speaking 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:48.040 it into existing time, getting calls some folks that I 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:51.000 know you've been saying the same, um some who My 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:54.160 sister Sharon, she critiques every week. We had a hair, 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:57.440 wasn't in place, we didn't say the right things. But 0:00:57.480 --> 0:01:00.080 then she'll be like, but overall it was good it 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:02.680 and she watches it every week. So if the show doesn't, 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:08.040 it's not up on any platform on time. Sharon Denise Mallory, 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:10.360 she knows it. She ain't gonna play about this. She 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:12.720 does not play. She definitely played about her, my son 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:16.200 and her to me because and I know for you 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:19.399 people have been saying they want to see more topics 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:21.960 about what's happening like in the streets. You know, we're 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:24.080 gonna I'm gonna work. We're working on some streets things. 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:26.080 We're working on some music. You know, I want to 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:29.880 bring like conscious rappers that are dope, that have good music. 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:32.120 Like we we're working on some things that we want incorporate. 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:35.119 The guy's name from Cleveland. I love, oh my boy, 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:38.640 Connie son Man. Please just get him on. You know, 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:41.560 he's one of the dopest artists, like the dopest artists 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:44.760 in the game, and he's underground. We're about to be 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:47.400 working on a project together, So shout up to Connie 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:49.680 son from Cleveland. We're gonna get We're gonna get him 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:52.919 in our artist spotlight. You know, we want all artists 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:57.240 right because there's this false, false narrator there. You go. 0:01:57.320 --> 0:01:58.560 I knew it was a narrative. I just want to 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:00.600 make sure I said right, false narrative of that if 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:04.160 you're not industry, and you're not you know, in the 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:08.079 commercial music industry, that somehow you're feeling and there's a 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:11.000 lot of musicians that are underground that have not had 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:15.040 commercial success, that have an impact on so many lives, 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:18.239 so we want to be able to highlight those give platform. 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:21.280 That's what's up. But you know, again, we're grateful because 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:24.080 I've been hearing from people who are like you know, 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:26.720 I'm listening to the show every week. I see the 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:30.000 growth we are trying to grow. We started out, I know, 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:34.679 for me, I was nervous, probably why that's why I procrastinated, 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:36.680 if you will, with doing the show for so long. 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:38.360 I knew it was something that I wanted to do 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:40.919 with this podcast, and thank god, we have a team 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:43.560 that kept pulling us along. And you kept talking crazy 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:45.840 to me, telling me that I was playing myself for 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:50.320 not jumping in head first, um, you know, into the 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:55.440 podcast space. But over time I learned that if you 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:58.080 don't tell your stories, other people will tell it for you. 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:00.920 And we really did need to have a space where 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:04.799 we could talk about our issues, talk about v issues, 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:09.679 and allow folks to come and bring information to our audience. 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:12.160 It doesn't matter to me, which it does, but it doesn't. 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:15.080 But it does, But it doesn't if there's five hundred 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:18.720 people that are listening in those five hundred people need 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:22.080 information that they may only be looking for from us, 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:25.080 and they're gonna give it to and and that's exactly right. 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:28.959 In fact, they five hundred people can reach millions because 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:31.320 people talk to folks and their families, their homes, their 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:35.520 jobs there, you know, their communities. And so I'm proud 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:38.160 of us of what we are continued to do with 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:41.240 street politicians and how it's growing. And I do believe 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:47.040 it's going to be number one, number one. Shout out 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:50.280 to the Black Effect Network and I heart Radio and 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:54.240 our women TV for TV cat triggering the whole team, 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:59.880 betune the tags. Family first for me. Man, it's the 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.560 family first for me. I hear that. I hear that. 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:05.960 So I was thinking thinking, because you know, the last 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:08.400 few weeks I've been trying to have I've eased up 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:12.080 a lot on socials and just again, as I said, 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:15.839 reflecting and thinking and what have you, what have you? 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:18.240 And it's okay. It happens to each and every one 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:20.080 of us. And if it doesn't, if you don't take 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:24.359 time to reflect on everything. You know, someone said to 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:27.240 me the other day like, wow, you know, uh you 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:29.920 you you go through so much and and I know 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:32.320 you must be beat down and whatever, and then we 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:35.680 do get beat down sometimes. But I I had a 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:38.600 different response, and I'm so proud of my own growth 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:42.120 and maturity mice because I said to the young ladies 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:45.160 that you know, it's funny that for the first time 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:49.440 in my life, I'm actually grateful to God for even 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:53.359 the trials and tribulations, because I've already seen over time 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:58.520 how every single time that I go through something, it's 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:02.200 really just the next level comments right, like and that, 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:07.120 and that's been every single solitary time. And the thing 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:11.040 about it is that I have learned to trust God 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:14.320 so much that I know that He's going to do 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:17.599 the same thing this time that he did the last time, 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:21.159 at least the same right that he did the last time. 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:25.400 So it's a space where but but the only problem 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:28.400 is that so many of us lack the willingness to 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:32.080 sit still and obedience, right, we lack it. And I 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:35.520 and sometimes I'm disobedient. I think when I'm disobedient, that's 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:39.200 when all kinds of anxiety and troubles get into me 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:42.599 because I'm not following what I know is right. I 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:45.680 worried too much about trying to please everybody, because you know, 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:48.359 that's my that's my daily mission is how can I 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:51.880 please the world that no so but I was thinking. 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:53.600 I was as I was sitting and I'm like, man, 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:56.559 I just read people things and I listened to stuff, 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:58.560 people calling me. They're my friends and my family. They'd 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:01.680 be like, oh, you know what happened? They said and 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:04.520 this and that, And I said, you know what, are 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:09.800 you gullible or dumb? If you hear something from a 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:13.240 source that you don't know that you can't trust, you 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:15.520 don't know if you can trust them, and then you 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:19.440 go and spread it as fact, That's that's that's that's 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:23.320 so deep, right because I had this this problem. Right, 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:26.560 So you know, I'm used to being attacked on Instagram, 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:29.640 being called or type of names and people there's a 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:33.560 new thing where people get their whole YouTube pages started 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:35.960 or for me and you like, they are people who 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:39.680 have gained three hundred to four hundred thousand followers just 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:42.520 talking bad about me and you nothing else. But they 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:46.320 don't have anything else to talk over thirty forty But 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:48.320 you get paid for that, right, they get paid for 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:51.040 So I'm just saying but on YouTube, but I'm not. 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:52.800 I don't know how to navigate these too it all, 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:59.440 but you get paid, So you're making money off of 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:02.520 talk and about somebody else and using people's names that 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:05.040 you don't really know and really have had very little 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:08.360 bit of conversation. Found somewhat like what they say we do. 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:11.880 But I'm glad that they're able to. If if my 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:15.760 life can provide food on your table, use it. However, 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:18.200 union so the issue. So I'm not mad at that, 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:21.160 but it became an issue when it's somebody that I've 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:24.480 known for years, Right, when you have a twenty plus 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:28.600 year relationship what you think is a friendship, and they 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:32.040 go to Instagram and they go to YouTube, you know, 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:35.440 they start a podcast and they utilize your name and 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:39.400 start colling you out your name, So I coined you frauds. 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:41.920 But maybe they just think you know that. But that's 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:44.080 what I'm trying to say, right, It's it just only 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:46.200 exposes the truth because I was having this, We were 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:49.240 just having this conversation a minute ago when you decided 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:53.239 that somebody that you never heard of, right, said something 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:56.200 negative about me, and you know me, you got my 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:58.640 phone number. You didn't call and say, hey, Mike, somebody 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:01.160 just said something. This is stirred me. The true just 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:03.400 getting my side of the story, even if you don't 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:06.760 agree or believe the you know, the grace that you 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:10.600 should give somebody that you know is the acts and say, hey, 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:14.000 is this true? That didn't happen, right, So I was 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:17.880 so taken back. And what happened was people started jumping 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:20.640 on that train like, yeah, you're right, I'm glad you're saying. 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:23.600 So it's and that's what it is. Is that like 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:26.240 I said, you know, we said, you know, we've accidentally 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:29.240 posted things that we didn't fact check and had to say, oh, 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:31.880 you know what we made. But the reason why we 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:35.439 posted those things because they already supported what we felt 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:38.520 from the beginning. Right. We would never just jump to 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:42.160 post something about something that we already didn't believe, right. 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:45.400 So what happened is you realized that after twenty years, 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:48.480 this person always felt this way about you, right, and 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:51.560 they just needed something to to give them the energy 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:54.600 and give them reason. They didn't need no facts, They 0:08:54.600 --> 0:09:00.679 didn't die forbid you ever make a mistake that you 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:05.479 better be perfect, man, you better be perfectly okay, people 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:07.839 to look he he made a mistake. Look, he said 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:12.040 the and he put a Y instead of the He said, 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:17.920 I you know this God, and that's what that I 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:20.640 think I mean, I don't know. It's like I guess, 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:23.680 there's always been gossip, There's always been these things. But 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:26.400 I do think that we all have to be responsible 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:29.840 for more research. And I certainly have been challenged and 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:33.280 checked a number of times where I ran to support 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:37.920 something or I shared some information and I was wrong, 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:40.040 you know, And so when I say are you gullible 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:42.280 or down my guests in those instances, I was being 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:44.200 a little bit more gullible. But it's a little bit 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:46.840 of both. Yeah, it's both man and it's it's biased. 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:51.760 Like I just said, it's not it's both bias because 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:55.520 when you post anything on your page, it supports a 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:59.079 notion that you have. You you would never post anything 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:03.160 that goes disaccording to what you already believe without doing 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:05.520 fact checks, because if you see something, you're gonna be like, 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:08.080 where are they said this? Let me check? Because let 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:10.080 me check? Because I don't really believe that anyway. You 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:12.480 will do some research. You're gonna google, You're gonna go to, 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:15.200 you know, places that you know the information is fact 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:16.560 and if you don't see it on none of these 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:19.760 places where you know that they give factual information, then 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:21.880 you're not gonna post it. You're not gonna support it, 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:26.280 you know. So when people decide that just merely a 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:29.600 person on Instagram that you never met, a person on 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:33.600 YouTube that you never met, can say something that you 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:37.760 cannot back up with evidence. They ain't got no receipts, 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:40.480 they ain't got no facts, they don't have You can't 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:43.079 fact check nothing they said, and you take it at 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:47.400 face value. You have to ask yourself, are you okay? 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:49.959 So okay, let's let's look at it from a different perspective. 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:55.880 So I I heard, I know, uh, miss Laura, and 0:10:55.920 --> 0:11:01.160 Miss Laura doesn't like or trust certain people, and so 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:02.880 she talks about them all the time. And I actually 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:06.239 like how she speaks. I like the things that she says. 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:09.040 She seems to be authentic to me, and she's saying 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:11.959 something and I believe that maybe what Miss Laura is 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:15.680 saying it is true. Right, So what's the next step? 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:18.959 Because if I'm only hearing from Miss Laura and she's 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:22.480 giving saying all these things and making it sound really, 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:26.120 really good, do I therefore have a responsibility to go 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:29.760 to the other side of the equation, especially when it's 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:35.800 about serious business, and say, hey, this is what I've heard. 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:39.720 What do you have to say about it. And it's 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:44.040 a tricky thing because we're most people are not inclined 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:46.400 to talk to folks who come at them a certain 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:54.000 way one and two. People who seemingly are they already 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:57.200 believe it and they really are just trying to antagonize you. 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:00.080 But I think that when people come to you, you 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:05.160 genuinely trying to understand, do we therefore have a responsibility 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:07.040 They have a responsibility to ask you, and do you 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:09.520 have a responsibility to answer? Well, you know what it is. 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:14.120 I think it's um subjective, right. I think if somebody 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:16.880 comes to you who you value, and you believe that 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:21.800 they come with authentic energy and they really want to 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:23.559 inquire and they want you to give them an answer 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:26.800 because they've heard something else, that's nothing wrong with that. Now. 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:28.400 I have no problem. That's why you like you go. 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:31.360 But no, I have no problem with engaging people because 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:34.400 these are people who follow you on these platforms. These 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:37.880 are people that either believe in you their fans system degree. 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:41.360 And even a hater is a misguided fan, right, So 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:44.320 sometimes you got to educate a hater because I've turned 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:47.240 haters into fans. I've heard I've turned people it was like, ya, 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:49.360 I didn't like you at first I thought this, and 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:51.800 then I started listening to you, and then I realized 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:54.040 that you was the truth. So I understand that happens. 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:56.520 So you have to make a determination based on how 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:59.920 the person addresses you about the information, because say such 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:03.640 said this, I know that ain't true? Man? Is it true? 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:06.559 Give me some information, and you have to make a determination. 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:08.720 Do I believe that this person is worth me given 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:13.319 you know, the information, or explaining something to do our mind? 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:16.959 Or am I okay with that person believing whatever? They're here? 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:19.679 You know? And I think us as leaders and were 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:24.040 having people following us. I think the world deserves certain explanations, 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:28.000 especially when it's something that you know goes in conflict 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:30.800 to what it is that we say that we represent. Right, 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:34.760 So if if the other person can't present receipts and 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:36.839 it's just left on phase value and we don't give 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:40.080 them anything to combat the information, then we can't be 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:42.800 mad if that's what they believe in, right, especially if 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:45.720 they're looking for something to combat the information. If you 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:47.360 just leave it out there and you said, I'm not 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:51.120 going to even respond and there's nothing to even and 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:54.679 that's true, because I I contemplated recently whether or not 0:13:54.760 --> 0:14:00.040 I should respond to false allegations against me, and I 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:04.480 decided that one, especially when it's connected to us organizationally 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:08.040 and our our business every day, that it's not a 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:11.840 good idea to have, or that it doesn't benefit us 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:14.000 to have one side of a story in the media, 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:16.360 because people google things, and when they google your name, 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:19.200 these things come up, and there needs to actually be 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:22.600 a response so that folks can see the balance and 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:25.200 make a determination of what it is that they believe. 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:28.120 And there is of course for some people will say, well, 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:31.160 you know, the people who are with you are with you, 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:33.280 but you have new people every day who are trying 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:35.000 to get to know you, and they get to know 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:38.160 you based upon your profile, based upon things they read, 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:40.880 things that they hear. So it's always important for me 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:45.080 that on certain issues, especially when they're very serious allegations 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:49.080 or serious conversations, to make a statement that allows people 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:52.760 to find where you, where your voice is, and then 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:55.400 again make their own determinations. And I think, I think 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:58.840 for us is important because we've always been vocal. Yah 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:01.520 is the act. We've always been vocal. We always use 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:04.840 our platforms, we always talk about things that we believe 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:07.080 in don't believe in, and we've been vocal. So when 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:09.840 somebody attacks you with things that are vital and you 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:16.160 become silent, then it gives ever had I'm always talking, 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:18.680 so you know, I guess that's what that is. That's 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:22.960 what it is. So as we always say, we have 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:27.040 a lot of friends that and people probably think we 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:30.920 are what we play favoritism with our friends, but friends 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:33.440 that we do, that's okay. That's why we got to 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:36.120 show so we can bring our friends on so I 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:39.520 don't have to feel bad about it. Okay, So then 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:43.720 this is my friend. So I am so proud today 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:46.560 to bring to the street politicians family because I feel 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:49.480 like of the guests that we've had, you know, you 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:51.880 want to talk to more people that you don't necessarily 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:55.240 agree with. I don't like to give clowns space on 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:58.240 my platform, but there needs to be a balance, and 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:00.280 there's some people who we don't agree with that are 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:02.040 not clowned. So those are the ones I want you 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:06.200 to find, the ones that we can respectfully disagree. So 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:09.200 when you find those people, let me know I'm down 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:11.680 to do it. Um. But I think it is a 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:14.760 family of people who are coming together with different ideas, 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:18.000 and as we grow, and as this show continues to grow, 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:20.840 we want to bring the type of content that makes 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:23.640 people feel like they're learning something. And I certainly have 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:27.640 learned from this. Uh. Next guest, this young lady m 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:29.920 who you know, among a lot of things, she's like 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:35.640 super fly, super amazing um. And also she's an author 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:39.360 and her book really sort of sums up the title 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:42.200 of her book sums up why she's on here today 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:44.520 and what we need to be doing more of with 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:48.160 our time we're on social media, and that is from 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:54.120 mopping floors to making millions on i G. My sister 0:16:54.800 --> 0:17:00.160 Ronnie Brown is joining us today. Hi Ronnie, thank you 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:03.240 guys for having me. How did you transition from up 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:06.840 and floors to making millions on G? Well it did. 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:12.240 It wasn't an overnight thing. Let me make sure. Actually, yeah, 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:15.239 I'm not one for fluff. I'm one for you know, 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:19.280 real transparency. So this was something that happened over the 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:22.080 course of probably about five to six years when I 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:25.240 really learned how to monetize social media. I was a 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:27.800 janitor UM. I grew up in the projects of Washington 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:30.800 d c UM. I had my son. At sixteen years old, 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:33.480 I dropped out of college. Um, all of the people 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:36.360 that were around me were hustling, selling drugs in the streets, 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:38.879 doing all that kind of stuff. And I decided that 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:40.879 I was going to go in a different direction. And 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:43.879 it was primarily based on all of the odds that 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:45.760 were stacked against me. You know, when you have a 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:49.200 teen mom and you have a kid young, everyone's already 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:51.240 telling you like, oh, you're gonna fail, you're gonna be 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:53.680 on welfare, you're gonna do this, So it kind of 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:56.680 pushes you to go in a different direction. And I 0:17:56.720 --> 0:18:00.000 was really determined to figure out how to make some money. 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:04.640 And honestly, I started off on Facebook and I used 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:07.280 Facebook to sell handmade products that I was making in 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:09.960 my home. That's how I started my first business. And 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:12.320 the reason why I started on Facebook is because I 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:16.280 could not afford to have a website built. I could 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:18.920 not afford to have a report design and build a website. 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:22.400 And I figured out how to go to PayPal, and y'all, 0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:24.520 it's gonna tell how old I am, y'all, so you know, 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:27.480 don't judge me. But I figured out how to go 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:29.680 to PayPal, and I don't know if y'all remember this, 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:32.400 but back in the day, you could go to PayPal 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:35.840 and you could take PayPal buttons and you you could 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:38.240 take the link from the button and then you could 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:42.280 paste it and it would generate buy now buttons and 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:46.240 paste to buy now buttons on Facebook. And I would 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:48.359 make these products in my home because I had gotten 0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:51.480 fired from my job, and I said that, I'm like, man, 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:54.919 I'm not going to continue to allow people to be 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:58.200 able to tell me when I can make money. And 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:01.320 I'm not gonna keep going through this this this cycle 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:04.800 because another thing people don't really talk about is I'm 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:07.600 being a mom in corporate America and the lack of 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:10.560 grace that is given for mothers who have children who 0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:13.399 have to have to do daycare and doctor's appointments, in 0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:16.720 school activities and conferences. So I was sick at that point, 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:19.679 and I got on social media and I started plugging 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:23.240 those buttons and I went from hustling on Facebook to 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:26.560 hustling on Instagram and it just took off from there. 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:28.879 I have two things. The first thing is, do you 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:31.600 mean to tell me that getting fired from your job 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:34.960 wasn't the end of your life? Like I just can't 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:38.880 believe it. You know what I'll tell you guys. Um, 0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:41.119 when we are in the midst of the fire, we 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:45.200 think that we're just gonna burn up and it's over right. 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:49.120 But when you get out of the fire, you look 0:19:49.200 --> 0:19:51.520 back and you say, man, this had to light me 0:19:51.680 --> 0:19:54.520 up like I had. I had to literally get lit 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:58.280 for a second for me to figure out ways to 0:19:58.320 --> 0:20:02.080 become creative and and getting fired from my job to 0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:05.760 some people was the worst thing that could probably happen 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:11.760 to them. But honestly, um, I feel like our success 0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:15.359 is in our sacrifices, and I feel like me getting 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:17.680 fired it was a sacrifice that I had to make 0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:21.199 and it pushed me right into my purpose and I 0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:25.040 needed that. So I mean, I'm being sarcastic, but you know, 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:27.919 there are some people who, first of all, losing your 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:31.720 job when you need your money is very very serious. 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:34.960 So I totally respect that. But I also have lived 0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:38.399 long enough to understand that sometimes you don't need that 0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:41.640 job anyway, right, Like, it's just it's time to move on. 0:20:42.200 --> 0:20:46.320 And I think what you're speaking to is exactly that 0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:48.800 you really it was time for you to step into 0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:51.960 your own It was time for that boost UM and 0:20:52.040 --> 0:20:54.719 losing your job probably is what set you on the 0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:58.480 right path, right, But what was the first product that 0:20:58.600 --> 0:21:02.600 you sold on Facebook? It was a beauty product. I 0:21:02.720 --> 0:21:06.280 created a beauty company and it's so crazy because now 0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:11.080 I'm also the CEO of Holistic, which is a clean 0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:13.480 self care beauty brand. I have two companies, Girls CEO, 0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:15.920 which is a community for women in business, and then 0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:18.440 I have her Listic, which is a self care company 0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:21.920 that we actually have clean products. But people don't know 0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:26.200 that me relaunching and building her Listic was me coming 0:21:26.200 --> 0:21:29.520 back to my initial business that failed, which was actually 0:21:29.560 --> 0:21:33.639 called um a MORMONAI. And if you hashtag or MORMONAI 0:21:33.800 --> 0:21:36.920 or you google a more monai, you will literally see 0:21:36.960 --> 0:21:41.600 pictures of myself and my daughter at six years old 0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:45.119 doing bending events at tables and with t shirts on 0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:48.200 UM and she was actually the only person that could 0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:51.320 help me. I needed help and people may have thought like, oh, 0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:53.320 her kid was with her, but my daughter was with me. 0:21:53.359 --> 0:21:56.480 My daughter just turned eighteen on Tuesday and she's now 0:21:56.560 --> 0:21:59.760