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Speaker 2: The Saint Louis Cardinals have lost five straight games. They

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Speaker 2: were swept by the New York Yankees on Sunday by

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Speaker 2: a score of twelve to eight. They did not have

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Speaker 2: They played eight of their nine games as home stands, shorthanded,

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Speaker 2: the left ankle sprain. This morning, welcome back to Cardinal territory,

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Speaker 2: where the vibes are always high. It was not a

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Speaker 1: The Yankees came in, and you know, the Yankees are

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Speaker 2: I know they've been kind of going through it over

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Speaker 2: And the Cardinals responded with a pretty lackluster performance. Let's

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Speaker 1: Prior to today's game.

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Speaker 2: The Cardinals placed, like we said, Victor Scott the second

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Speaker 2: on the ten day injured list with the left ankle sprain.

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Speaker 2: They were called outfielder Nathan Church. Victor Scott sustained the

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Speaker 2: swatted a lead off homer off Sunny Gray, Victor Scott

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Speaker 2: banged up into that wall pretty hard and sustained a

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Speaker 2: He looked like he could, you know, play pretty well

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Speaker 2: he hits the iel this morning. No timetable for Victor

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Speaker 2: speculation is at least that it is encouraging that it

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Speaker 2: especially for Victor Scott, who defensively was having a really

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Speaker 2: Hopefully we see him by the time the season ends

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Speaker 2: a player we will be seeing a lot more. Nathan

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Speaker 2: Church called up today started in center hit ninth for

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Speaker 2: the Cardinals. Ollie Marmele said before the game today that

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Speaker 2: we are going to see Church get a run in

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Speaker 2: his outfield rotation primarily the same, just subbing out Church

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Speaker 1: So you're still going to.

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Speaker 2: See that same rotation of Lars newbarn left or Jordan

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Speaker 1: When Wilson Contreras comes back.

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Speaker 2: All that stuff, but one thing that will the thing

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Speaker 2: that will be different is that Nathan Church will be

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Speaker 2: more players to use than they did in this series.

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Speaker 2: The Cardinals not having Brendan Donovan, not having Wilson Contreras,

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Speaker 2: Nolan Arnatto remains on the il of course as well,

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Speaker 2: really impacted their performance this weekend, to say the least.

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Speaker 2: In both Friday and Saturday's game, Ollie Marbles bench was

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Speaker 2: cap Joel Pozo. Meanwhile, the Yankees bench had guys like

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Speaker 1: It just doesn't match up well.

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Speaker 2: You combat that with a bullpen that also is missing

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Speaker 2: a lot of key pieces in terms of just who

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Speaker 2: this makes for compelling baseball and that's all Cardinals fans

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Speaker 2: the Il Wilson conturist should be back on the starting

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Speaker 1: You minor league enthusiasts will probably know.

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Speaker 2: Church started the year in Double A, was selected from

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Speaker 2: They did not have to burn a forty man roster

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Speaker 2: Okay, So, if you're like me, you're asking why did

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Speaker 2: nagging thing that he's tried to play through all players

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Speaker 2: That to me and the organization can't say this. Olie

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Speaker 2: This is not an issue that is just central to

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Speaker 1: We don't really view them as death pieces. They're just there.

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Speaker 1: Teams do that all the time.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure this organization would try it, but it just doesn't.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't put anyone in a position to succeed. It

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Speaker 1: And I thought we saw three relatively.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's talk a little a little bit about Wilson.

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Speaker 1: Didn't love that. He was going to be out Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: The Cardinals were hopeful the off day on Thursday would

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Speaker 1: That wasn't the case.

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Speaker 2: We'll have a better idea after hopefully talking to him

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Speaker 1: The majority of their lineup has is homegrown.

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Speaker 2: That's fair. Let's look at the talent of that lineup.

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Speaker 2: Let's look at the talent of the forty man roster.

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Speaker 2: Is this where the Cardinals organization should be? I would

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Speaker 1: It's been a minute.

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Speaker 2: Please not rejected once a month. It is really a

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Speaker 2: I'm actually about to read Miles Michaelis's answer. Hold on,

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Speaker 2: They have to play perfect baseball to give themselves a chance.

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Speaker 2: You add in a short bench, and I'm not just

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Speaker 2: Some of it is their own doing, some of it

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Speaker 2: But the way to look at it is to learn

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Speaker 2: to go out there and lose five straight. Fans don't

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Speaker 2: this only underscores how much more important it is for

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Speaker 2: this Cardinals team and this Cardinals organization to finalize their

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Speaker 2: it needs to. This series was a big reminder that

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Speaker 2: a lot of these players have a long ways to go.

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Speaker 2: But sometimes that reminder is not a bad thing and

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Speaker 2: the grand scheme of things.

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Speaker 1: Was it a bad thing for Cardinals fans this weekend? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, But in the grand scheme of things, players should

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Speaker 2: stick around. We'll learn from this weekend. We'll learn from

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Speaker 2: what worked and what didn't, the mistakes they made the

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Speaker 2: hopefully the next week in Florida three games against Miami,

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Speaker 2: three games against the Rays goes a lot better than

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Speaker 2: how this homestand ended. You can visit the Cardinal Territory

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Speaker 2: shop dot com for your first look at new merch.

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Speaker 2: My coffee mug came in and said in my notebook,

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Speaker 2: So that was super excited. And I also bought a

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Speaker 2: means I've just been talking too much, so maybe well,

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Speaker 2: maybe that's just the key to end episode right now.

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Speaker 1: I got a fly to cash to Miami anyway.

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Speaker 2: Mister three oh five, missus three oh five, that's what

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Speaker 2: you guys can call me for the next three days. Hey,

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Speaker 2: this weekend was tough. Thanks for sticking with me. Thanks

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Speaker 2: for turning and tuning into this episode. We will see

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Speaker 2: how the Cardinals address their forty man roster construction going forward.

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Speaker 2: We will see what their lineup looks like and who's

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Speaker 2: available on Monday. Hopefully they have more than two bench options,

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Speaker 2: and hopefully for everyone involved, Brendan Donovan and Wilson Contraras

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Speaker 2: are good to go.

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Speaker 1: All right for those of you watching. I'm Katie.

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Speaker 2: This is Cardinal Territory. We'll talk again next week. Thanks

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Speaker 2: as always,