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Speaker 2: This's you, Chris Haynes.
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Speaker 3: Hey everyone, We've got a special edition of This League
Speaker 3: Uncut for you today. Chris Haynes and me Mark Stein
Speaker 3: joined by Nick's forward Julius Randall. We talk about Randall's
Speaker 3: bid for a third All Star appearance as a Nick,
Speaker 3: the impact of the Ognna Nobe trade in New York.
Speaker 3: We also, of course talk about left handedness, one of
Speaker 3: my favorite subjects. We caught up with Julius last Friday
Speaker 3: on the day after the Knicks loss in Dallas, his hometown,
Speaker 3: but he and rebounded sufficiently by that point. We might
Speaker 3: have even gotten a Tom Thibodeaux impression out of mister Randall.
Speaker 3: Great visit with him here, Let's get right to it.
Speaker 4: Yes, indeed, another special edition of This League Uncut featuring
Speaker 4: Mark Stein and myself, Chris Haynes. Very special guests, very
Speaker 4: special guests, and first time he's coming on on this podcast,
Speaker 4: and I want to welcome him in New York. Knicks
Speaker 4: star Ford Julius Randall and he's in line to make
Speaker 4: another All Star appearance this year. This All Star Game
Speaker 4: will be in Indianapolis this year, and the Knicks having
Speaker 4: a tremendous season. They made a big mid season trade
Speaker 4: and look like they're about to pick up a little
Speaker 4: bit more steam. But Julius, man, thank you man for
Speaker 4: coming on, brother, And I know you took a it
Speaker 4: was a tough loss last night. So how y'all holding up?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 6: It's good, It's good, Chris. You know how to season go. Man,
Speaker 6: it's eighty two games. It's ups and downs. You know,
Speaker 6: you win games you shouldn't, lose some you shouldn't, but
Speaker 6: you know, just gotta stay even.
Speaker 4: But yes, sir as, I'm always I want to get
Speaker 4: into some hoops chat. Definitely, there was something I always
Speaker 4: wanted to ask you. I never got to ask you this.
Speaker 4: When people ask me who's one of the most underappreciated
Speaker 4: players in the game, you first one comes to mind.
Speaker 4: The reason I say this is because I feel like
Speaker 4: your game. Your game gets criticized so much because you
Speaker 4: have a skill set that if you put your skill
Speaker 4: set on somebody else that's six ' nine, but they
Speaker 4: might be two hundred pounds. Nobody will say anything but
Speaker 4: the fact that you you can play inside outside, and
Speaker 4: you know you're physically you know, physical wise, you're probably
Speaker 4: more physical imposing than most players we have in this league.
Speaker 4: I think that people think that you should just play
Speaker 4: that way all the time when you have an overall
Speaker 4: skill set. So when people are trying to critique your game, like,
Speaker 4: is that something you like? Do you feel like you're
Speaker 4: unfairly criticized? But just how you know, how you do
Speaker 4: play the game. I mean, I mean, criticism is just
Speaker 4: a part of you know what I mean. I think
Speaker 4: for me, I'm just under a different microscope being here
Speaker 4: playing for the Knicks. You know, being in New York,
Speaker 4: the microscope is just way different, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I've been with the Lakers, but that was like start
Speaker 4: of a rebuilding in New Orleans. But you know, the
Speaker 4: light here is just different, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So I was just funny. I was talking to one
Speaker 4: of my teammates about this. He was like, Bro, you
Speaker 4: can have a great game, you can have a bad game.
Speaker 6: He's like, you still don't get critiquedos that you could
Speaker 6: go for fifty to ten straight games and it won't
Speaker 6: even matter, you know what I mean. So, like it's fine,
Speaker 6: Like I think for me, I don't focus on the man,
Speaker 6: to be honest with you, Chris, Like I always focus
Speaker 6: on the process, right, So it's like for me, the
Speaker 6: development is what I look at. You know, when I
Speaker 6: first got into the league, I couldn't shoot the basketball,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. It was all bullyball, you know,
Speaker 6: everything in the paint. And as the years of going on,
Speaker 6: I've developed that, you know, So that was the critique.
Speaker 6: It's funny that was the critique when I first got
Speaker 6: into the league, as I couldn't shoot. Yeah, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean. It's now you shoot too many threes
Speaker 6: or whatever it is, you know what I mean. I think,
Speaker 6: but at this point now in my career, I'm just
Speaker 6: starting to find the balance of both.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I just think that's just that's why I
Speaker 4: say I always put you at the top when they
Speaker 4: talk about underappreciated because you have a well rounded game,
Speaker 4: Like who doesn't want to be somebody who could bring
Speaker 4: the ball up, initiate the offense, can shoot, can't go
Speaker 4: down the post, can do it all. But it's like
Speaker 4: if you look a certain way. They expect you to
Speaker 4: just play like that, You know what I mean? I
Speaker 4: play play the way you look. I guess that's what
Speaker 4: it is.
Speaker 5: It's like they criticized for making the right place.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, I'm glad you brought that up, because
Speaker 3: I'm actually curious about this. I've lived myself in Dallas
Speaker 3: for twenty five ish years, and this is obviously where
Speaker 3: you're from and where you grew up and started developing
Speaker 3: your game. Because I remember when Jalen Brunson first went
Speaker 3: from the Mavericks to the Knicks, A lot of people
Speaker 3: wondered is he ready for the difference in spotlight because
Speaker 3: Dallas is supposedly a big place. But I gotta say,
Speaker 3: I came here from LA and I don't know. I
Speaker 3: just feel like it's it's known as a big place,
Speaker 3: but it's a small place. It seems like in Dallas
Speaker 3: when I go out, I run into people I know
Speaker 3: all the time that never happened in La. You grew
Speaker 3: up in Dallas, you played at a major college program
Speaker 3: in Kentucky. But like playing for the Knicks in Madison
Speaker 3: Square Garden, how much brighter is the spotlight there really
Speaker 3: than other places on the map?
Speaker 6: It's a lot brighter just based off of the simple
Speaker 6: fact that, like our fans living out every game, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean, Like every game is like a
Speaker 6: super Bowl to them.
Speaker 5: Like when I when.
Speaker 6: I got to Kentucky, one of the things Coach Kyle says,
Speaker 6: every game you play here, you know, it's gonna be
Speaker 6: like the super Bowl for you. It's gonna be like
Speaker 6: the super Bowl for the other team, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean, Just the competition level on what it brings
Speaker 6: out of you. So it's like that too, you know.
Speaker 6: Especially I remember being an opposing player going into the
Speaker 6: garden and every time you step in the garden, you
Speaker 6: want to have a big night.
Speaker 5: You're on the opposing team, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: So it's like you got that aspect of it, but
Speaker 6: then you got the aspect of like the fans here,
Speaker 6: it just so passionate in their care and you know, so.
Speaker 5: They want to win every game.
Speaker 6: They hungry, you know, they just got the hunger here
Speaker 6: and why So it's I mean, that's that's just really
Speaker 6: what come with it. But I think the longer that
Speaker 6: you win it, the more you appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Can anything prepare you for that? Or do you basically
Speaker 3: have to become a Nick and learn how to play
Speaker 3: in that environment.
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know, I can't speak for anybody else,
Speaker 6: but for me, I had to learn it myself, you know.
Speaker 5: And I think.
Speaker 6: Based off of like who your person like, what your
Speaker 6: personality is, I feel like it can bring the best
Speaker 6: out of you. I think for me, like you know, Chris,
Speaker 6: you was talking about the criticism, I think that just
Speaker 6: brings the best out of me.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 6: I've been in the garden and got booged, you know.
Speaker 6: And I've been in the garden and got MVP checks,
Speaker 6: you know. But for me, it's not about either one
Speaker 6: of those like it.
Speaker 5: For me, that just reminds me to focus on the process,
Speaker 5: focus on the.
Speaker 6: Daily grind, what I'm putting into it every day even more,
Speaker 6: and you know, letting the results speak for themselves.
Speaker 4: And your game is taken off since becoming a New
Speaker 4: York Knicks in that spotlight, becoming an all star there,
Speaker 4: and you know, I know you want to add to
Speaker 4: that vote.
Speaker 2: What does it mean for you Julius too?
Speaker 4: Again, I would probably say most people probably don't flourish
Speaker 4: once they get into the bright lights. Your game took
Speaker 4: off you found yourself. You found yourself there. What would
Speaker 4: it mean to you to get another All Star spot
Speaker 4: on your belt as a member of the New York Knicks.
Speaker 5: It's great, you know.
Speaker 6: For me, this is all when it comes to that,
Speaker 6: that's all about career and that's that's a legacy.
Speaker 5: But more importantly, just.
Speaker 6: You know, when I had the opportunity five summers ago
Speaker 6: to come to New York, this is everything that I
Speaker 6: said I wanted to do, you know, from an individual standpoint,
Speaker 6: you know, I wanted to you know, establish myself as.
Speaker 5: You know, one of the great Knicks. You know.
Speaker 6: I wanted to be a part of that tradition and
Speaker 6: that legacy and that culture. So I feel like that
Speaker 6: just you know, for establishes that, which is great. But
Speaker 6: ultimately that's not what it's about for me, you know.
Speaker 6: I mean it's for me that's you know a part
Speaker 6: of it and all that comes because of success and
Speaker 6: like winning and stuff like that. But it's cool, man.
Speaker 6: I enjoyed. I enjoyed. My son he probably enjoyed more
Speaker 6: than me, though.
Speaker 2: You can make it.
Speaker 4: I'm looking at you guys, as you know, you guys's
Speaker 4: record twenty two and sixteen.
Speaker 2: I mean you're a win.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, you're a win away from you know,
Speaker 4: being as high as the fourth seed in the East.
Speaker 4: You Jalen Brunson, are definitely taking this team to another level.
Speaker 4: And then you just picked up og and know me
Speaker 4: from Toronto and it seemed like you guys have probably
Speaker 4: have another higher trajectory. But is there a reason I
Speaker 4: think there's a bona fide case why the Knicks should
Speaker 4: have too all stars?
Speaker 2: Is there a reason why that shouldn't be the case.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean feel like that should have been the
Speaker 5: case last year.
Speaker 6: Uh, to be honest, like JB was hooping last year,
Speaker 6: and you know he had every right and reason to
Speaker 6: make the game, you know what I mean. So it
Speaker 6: definitely like I feel like it definitely should and could
Speaker 6: be the case, you know what I mean. But for us,
Speaker 6: we just go out every night, I think even more
Speaker 6: this year than last year, even way more this year
Speaker 6: than last year. Like me and JB, like we bring
Speaker 6: the best out of each other, you know, every night,
Speaker 6: you know, I know that I got somebody that you know,
Speaker 6: wants to go out there and just destroy composition, Just
Speaker 6: go out there and just dominate every night and try
Speaker 6: to help us get wins. You know, that's the most
Speaker 6: important thing, you know for us both getting the leaders
Speaker 6: of the team, you know what I mean. So when
Speaker 6: you got somebody like that who energy wise brings the
Speaker 6: best out of you, know, you can't be slacking. Can't
Speaker 6: can't be slacking on your shit. You gotta be working,
Speaker 6: putting the time in. We both like in a sense
Speaker 6: of like pair know it. Like we don't you know,
Speaker 6: like to take time off. We can't like mentally, we
Speaker 6: can't take time on. So you know, you got somebody
Speaker 6: like that in your corner, it's gonna push you to
Speaker 6: break the best out of you. And I think that's
Speaker 6: why we have great team success but also individual success.
Speaker 3: Don't forget though, mister Haynes, Now this probably got to
Speaker 3: be honest. This is this is this is nothing. This
Speaker 3: is nothing you can put on the mantle. This is
Speaker 3: nothing that's probably gonna impress Julius's son. But both he
Speaker 3: and Jalen Brunson, of course, the members of my annual
Speaker 3: all Lefty team that I put out of every in
Speaker 3: every August. There's only six only six players in the
Speaker 3: league make it, and they're both they were both on
Speaker 3: it last season. I would venture to say they will
Speaker 3: both be on it this August. And I'm actually glad
Speaker 3: that you set this up because this is my chance
Speaker 3: to actually apologize to mister Randall for one of my
Speaker 3: worst basketball fails. I used to live very close to
Speaker 3: Prestonwood Christian Academy, where he played, and because I get
Speaker 3: so wrapped up in my day job, I didn't get
Speaker 3: out there to see him. I know, I'm guessing. I'm
Speaker 3: guessing that's where my kids. My oldest went is through there,
Speaker 3: he got done there, and my youngest is still there.
Speaker 3: That was a miss on my part that I didn't
Speaker 3: get to see you, and I felt doubly bad about
Speaker 3: it when I heard last night Brad Townshend from the
Speaker 3: Dallas Morning News, I heard you picked him out and said,
Speaker 3: this guy interviewed me when I was ten playing for
Speaker 3: the Texas Titans. And you should have seen it, Chris
Speaker 3: last night. I mean, he had a deep squad with
Speaker 3: him that almost took up the whole hallway after the game,
Speaker 3: and there were a lot of Julius Randall fans in
Speaker 3: the hallway after the game. What is that like to
Speaker 3: play in your hometown? And I know MAVs fans don't
Speaker 3: like seeing you because they usually put up big numbers
Speaker 3: when you come home. But what is like to play
Speaker 3: in front of your whole family and come home like
Speaker 3: that and kind of you're expected to deliver something big.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's just one of those things that never
Speaker 6: gets old. It's like, like I said, it's another one
Speaker 6: of those things just kind of brings the best out
Speaker 6: of me. It's a level of comfort. You know, that's
Speaker 6: the same court that I grew up, you know, talking
Speaker 6: about the Texas type.
Speaker 5: And I used to grow up going to games.
Speaker 6: I was a Laker fan going up, and I would
Speaker 6: go to all the Laker games when they playing in Dallas,
Speaker 6: And that's the court that I grew up watching Kobe on.
Speaker 6: And I will watch them come in there and just
Speaker 6: put on a show every single time. And you know,
Speaker 6: going to games watching dirt, you know, like it's almost
Speaker 6: like I grew up in that gym in a sense,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, I grew up I understand
Speaker 6: the drive, like everything, all the little details of drive
Speaker 6: to the arena of the entrance, like where the players going,
Speaker 6: all that different type of stuff. So it's like when
Speaker 6: I come there, it's like a level of comfort and familiarness,
Speaker 6: like just it's it's different, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: So like I'm extremely comfortable when I go out there,
Speaker 6: and then just to see my family, uh there, to
Speaker 6: have my son course on talking trash, It's just like
Speaker 6: full circle for me. So I love it. It'll never
Speaker 6: get old.
Speaker 2: Stein I thought you were gonna. Stein is a left hander.
Speaker 4: So anytime we get a left handed player on, he explain,
Speaker 4: explain your annual Explain your annual left handed.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I love to champion the lefties because there every year,
Speaker 3: there's about fifty in the NBA, between forty five and fifty.
Speaker 3: A couple of years ago there were as many as
Speaker 3: fifty four. I think I count it is over fifty
Speaker 3: this season. So it's really exclusive. I only pick six.
Speaker 3: I do it like the All Star Game. Two in
Speaker 3: the backcourt, three in the front court, and then I
Speaker 3: pick a six man. And the sixth man has to
Speaker 3: be someone who has he's a real six man. More
Speaker 3: more games coming up off the bench. Then starts, and
Speaker 3: so I mean I mean again, I don't think that, Uh,
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think that. Julius Randall and I
Speaker 3: know Jalen Brunson is not staying up at night wondering
Speaker 3: if they're going to get to get on this list.
Speaker 3: But you know, I like to I liked in it.
Speaker 3: Every August is International left Handers Day, so on International
Speaker 3: left Handers Day, I like to shout out the top
Speaker 3: six lefties. But this year is different because this year
Speaker 3: you actually have five lefties who are all playing at
Speaker 3: an all star level, which that is unusual. I mean,
Speaker 3: usually we're lucky to get I was about to ask that.
Speaker 2: Who you got bonus?
Speaker 3: The two guys from the Knicks, Zion James harden All
Speaker 3: and Defense all play. So that's my problem if I
Speaker 3: keep doing the team the same way, if I only
Speaker 3: have five guys.
Speaker 4: Hold on you as you asked the wrong questions. Ask him,
Speaker 4: were you on the list last year?
Speaker 2: He was?
Speaker 1: He's I think he's.
Speaker 5: Been on.
Speaker 3: You've been on for at least the last two years,
Speaker 3: and I have to go back and look probably more
Speaker 3: than that.
Speaker 2: Just making sure no I talked.
Speaker 4: I talked about when you brought up growing up around
Speaker 4: the game, and you know you mentioned Kobe Bryant and
Speaker 4: I don't have a Kobe question, but you know every
Speaker 4: I was not every most players when they're coming up
Speaker 4: in the NBA. It's there, there's that vet that kind
Speaker 4: of teaches you about you know, what it's like to
Speaker 4: be an NBA pro, what it's like to be professional. Uh,
Speaker 4: letting you know what happens outside this court. You know
Speaker 4: what what's the wrong. You know stuff you could get into.
Speaker 4: Uh who was that for you? Who was that guy that.
Speaker 2: You were saying? Man, he he put me on the
Speaker 2: right path.
Speaker 4: Since you offered it. Give me both, Give me both. Man,
Speaker 4: It's all a learned experience.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 6: I had some great bets. I had some great bets.
Speaker 6: I remember one of the first, one of the first
Speaker 6: vets that took me under his wing when I first
Speaker 6: got in was Ronnie Price and he was like he
Speaker 6: told me, he was like, man, it was my first
Speaker 6: media that he was like, enjoy this ship, bro, because
Speaker 6: you're gonna look up and you're gonna be in year
Speaker 6: ten and it's gonna go by fast. And like I
Speaker 6: always remember that every year passed by and I'll be like, man,
Speaker 6: this ship is going fast.
Speaker 5: It's going fast, and.
Speaker 6: I look up, now I'm in year ten, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean? So like I had him, I had
Speaker 6: Wes Johnson obviously I had cold.
Speaker 5: Who else I had growing up?
Speaker 3: I have.
Speaker 6: FAF I had the bad ones. Gonna talk about the
Speaker 6: well lou Will he was a good one. Lou Will
Speaker 6: was one of my that he was a great.
Speaker 2: One, great, great, great one on the court off the court,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 6: And then uh, you know, I had dudes like Nick Young,
Speaker 6: dudes like Jordan Hill with them dudes man like I
Speaker 6: love him to death and crazy to hell, crazy hell,
Speaker 6: but like you know what I mean, them the type
Speaker 6: of dudes you need because they like.
Speaker 5: They keep everything like they keep the energy great. Uh
Speaker 5: in the locker room.
Speaker 6: They make you like they can see that you down,
Speaker 6: like you're in a bad stretch, and they get you
Speaker 6: out of it.
Speaker 5: That make you not take this so serious all the time.
Speaker 6: So I've had I've been blessed with great vets, you know,
Speaker 6: even still to this day, like Todd Gibson, like I've
Speaker 6: been with to since I got to the next Nixson.
Speaker 5: Technically like I'm a fat now, but he o g
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, You know what I mean.
Speaker 5: So it's like I still seek advice from him, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean. So it's it's I've been blessed
Speaker 5: with great vest teams.
Speaker 3: So the trade has obviously been great for you guys.
Speaker 3: Last night was the first loss. You won your first
Speaker 3: five games after acquiring og Ananobi. But you guys have
Speaker 3: lost a couple offensive initiators. The ball is in your
Speaker 3: hands more.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: How has the trade kind of forced you to adjust
Speaker 3: some things in your game?
Speaker 6: I mean it's really just opened things up, to be honest,
Speaker 6: you know, it just made me a little bit more aggressive,
Speaker 6: you know, as a score boss or playmaker as well.
Speaker 6: You know, because the floor is so spread out and open,
Speaker 6: you got guys like Hey, you got guys now like og.
Speaker 5: And then Isaiah at the sard starting center, like he
Speaker 5: spreads the.
Speaker 6: Floor because he's just such a high IQ player and
Speaker 6: understands how to space, how to understand, how to cut.
Speaker 6: You got guys like dudes QG coming off the bench,
Speaker 6: so you know, we got real knockdown shooters. And for
Speaker 6: a guy like me that, like you said, Chris, I
Speaker 6: do a little bit of everything, but you know, but
Speaker 6: to my core, you know, I'm aggressive.
Speaker 5: I attack the basket. You know, I'm a downhill type player.
Speaker 6: Uh So for me, you know, to have that space
Speaker 6: and then those players around you know and make the
Speaker 6: game easier for me for sure.
Speaker 4: Jus, can you give me your best Tom Thibodeau impression
Speaker 4: when he's going off? When you guys in practice, I
Speaker 4: heard you say you cust you guys out not too
Speaker 4: long ago.
Speaker 5: He'd be like, Man, what the fucker we doing? What
Speaker 5: the fuck are we doing? That's it? And I'm like, man,
Speaker 5: he all want to.
Speaker 3: Man, I was so lucky last night I had. I
Speaker 3: had such a great seat to hear and when the
Speaker 3: crack gets quiet, he is. He is one of a kind.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I love to. I love too because yeah, he
Speaker 6: ready to go. He's turned up at all times.
Speaker 2: Well, Julius, I'm going to let you go. Stan Do
Speaker 2: you have one more before I let him go?
Speaker 3: Stun Well, I just wanted to ask one last thing
Speaker 3: you kind of mentioned at the beginning. You talked about
Speaker 3: ups and downs or whatever, But a thing that people
Speaker 3: have been saying is that you seem to be as
Speaker 3: comfortable as you ever have in New York. How would
Speaker 3: you describe it in your words? Year five as a nick.
Speaker 6: Yeah, accurate, very accurate. Like I said, you guys asked
Speaker 6: me earlier, can you be prepared for that? Or you
Speaker 6: got to go through it, and I feel like for me,
Speaker 6: like I said, I had to go through it. You know,
Speaker 6: every year, I just get more comfortable, more comfortable. It's
Speaker 6: almost like his cities kind of made me like bulletproof
Speaker 6: in a sense to where it's like, I don't, you know,
Speaker 6: feel any type of criticism or whatever. You know, I've
Speaker 6: just locked in, you know. So I would definitely say
Speaker 6: I'm more comfortable and I ever have. Man, I even
Speaker 6: felt that, like I think this summer, you know, I
Speaker 6: lived in the city for the first time, and I'm
Speaker 6: just like, man, this I feel like home, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean.
Speaker 5: So I definitely think I'm more comfortable than I ever had.
Speaker 5: That for sure.
Speaker 4: That's what's up. Well, Juliet, I appreciate you brought much
Speaker 4: success moving forward. Man, I hope to see you and
Speaker 4: you and Jalen out there in Indianapolis.
Speaker 2: Well, I see you at that three point contest again.
Speaker 5: Nah, I'm gonna letter run.
Speaker 2: You want that bad as soon as you want that bad.
Speaker 2: You didn't come in last. You didn't come in last.
Speaker 5: That was the goal. That was the goal. I wouldn't
Speaker 5: you supposed to be that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, that was the last of entry, right, what what, Julie.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you, brother, my success man. Thank you for
Speaker 2: coming on. Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for the time. Thanks Tomil.
Speaker 2: I appreciate y'all.
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