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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Professor Penn Podcast. David Pann, your host,

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Speaker 2: glad to be with you as always, Episode number two

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Speaker 2: thirty one, coming to you on this Thursday night, August

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Speaker 2: Very controversial race going on down there. I thought we

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Speaker 2: find out what's going on. Mister Laverne Turner. Welcome to

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Speaker 3: Sir, thank you thinking you for having me. I appreciate

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Speaker 2: I'm very glad you're here. We don't know each other.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a chance for us to get to

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Speaker 2: But for those of you that are watching nationally, in

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Speaker 2: every state, almost every state, there's a major metropolitan area

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Speaker 2: Starting to feel like I'm James Brown, you know. But

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Speaker 2: my point is, wherever you are, there is a major

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Speaker 2: communism is coming right to you. And what I'm advocating

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Speaker 2: We as Republicans, and I don't mean the party. I

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Speaker 2: So the flora is we don't know each other. We

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Speaker 4: I was born in Littrock, Arkansas, nineteen seventy four and

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Speaker 4: Yes, Minneapolis in the South Side for most of my

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Speaker 3: Well, there's pre amongst the city. I mean it's.

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Speaker 4: They just don't like where the party is going, but

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Speaker 3: And people don't want that type of you know, messing

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Speaker 4: You know, people just want to live and not you know,

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Speaker 3: So I do have a base of Democrats.

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Speaker 4: A matter of fact, I would say I have way

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Speaker 3: To be honest with you way more.

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Speaker 2: And why why would you say why? Why in your

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Speaker 4: Well, don't get me wrong, a lot of my conservative

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Speaker 3: We just have them providing it.

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Speaker 2: Well, wait a second, got to stop, slow down, slow

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Speaker 3: I want you to know.

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Speaker 4: I've been telling Republican Party for twenty five years there

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Speaker 4: You gotta show up, you gotta show you care, you

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Speaker 3: That's wrong with that. No, we just show up because

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Speaker 4: The Republicans have such a bad reputation amongst you know,

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Speaker 3: They don't care about us. You know, they don't care,

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Speaker 2: You know that is so not Republican. And I don't

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Speaker 4: From my position is that when I said earlier about

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Speaker 3: You know there's other people as well.

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Speaker 4: I mean, well, I managed a city council candidate in

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Speaker 2: Laverne, welcome to Free People Radio. We're glad you're here. Well,

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Speaker 2: because why personally believe in the dignity of every human

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Speaker 2: And I also know, as I said in the preamble,

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Speaker 4: And some of the commentary that I'm hearing around my

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Speaker 4: What kind of campaign strategy is that? What kind of

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Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you do that? Why would you just wait.

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Speaker 4: To fetate whins and then hope that maybe the next

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Speaker 2: When nobody's paying attention to the community, nobody's coming in

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Speaker 3: Are, and most of them are black, most of them.

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Speaker 4: But the previous Minneapolis b POU chair pretty much pushed

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Speaker 2: Ah were we talking about the mister Seawan we are, Oh,

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Speaker 2: mister Shawn Holster, Yes, well we've talked about here plenty

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Speaker 2: I mean, I like, I like taking a bomb running

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Speaker 3: You don't lie.

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Speaker 2: I don't mind disagreement. I'm a Republican, after all, I

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Speaker 3: That's a that's a good start.

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Speaker 2: That's Mike that we're just working on step A right,

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Speaker 2: Honesty is part of being Republican because Republicanism is anti corruption.

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Speaker 2: So but then that Sean, you know, I we had

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Speaker 2: And I'm thinking to myself, you're telling me that fifty

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Speaker 2: because we're not we can't have a public display of solidarity.

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Speaker 2: It's a handful of people, but you got to start somewhere.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to have a march there, you know, next

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Speaker 2: summer with twenty five thousand people. I mean, really, this

435
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Speaker 2: is I mean, I you know, there's an old thing

436
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 2: from you know, Ames Small, Miss Small. You know I'm dreaming, man,

437
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 2: I mean if you don't dream, you know, I look

438
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 2: at things that what can we really do here? And

439
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 2: I I don't have the limitation.

440
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 3: I believe in miracles. So Sean.

441
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 2: Went after that march, went after Royce called him a

442
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 2: criminal and all this stuff, and then.

443
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 4: To be a pattern of that particular individual attacking black conservatives.

444
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, but why?

445
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: And then he attacked me and he told an acts.

446
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 2: He said I was a very I don't remember the

447
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 2: exact but he said I was schnucking the people, which

448
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 2: is like scamming them. And I'm thinking to myself, well,

449
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 2: I guess you must feel that way. And you know,

450
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 2: because I'm Jewish, it's kind of an anti Semitic gave

451
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 2: me an anti Semitic feeling. I didn't like it, and

452
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 2: you know, I didn't make a big deal out of it,

453
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 2: but it bothered me that a party officer would use

454
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Speaker 2: language that was questionable because we are Republicans.

455
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, he called me a thug grifter, So

456
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 4: I know, I don't I don't really even care about

457
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 4: that really or you know, I'm a grown man at all.

458
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 4: And you know, honestly, I've been doing this for such

459
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 4: a long time. Like I mentioned earlier, I've been running

460
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 4: since I was in my twenties. I understand the game,

461
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 4: I understand people, I understand the politics. I get you know.

462
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 4: You know, some people are just gonna like you. You're

463
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 4: gonna you're gonna have enemies. Some people may be jealous

464
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 4: of me, and and I really think that's where it

465
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 4: really comes from. It's a sort of an animist out

466
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 4: of jealousy. Because I ran from mayor between twenty one

467
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 4: last man decision. I got in a race in the

468
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 4: middle of the summer, no infrastructure, no real plan, didn't

469
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 4: even want to run from mayor, was never even thinking

470
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 4: about running from mayor. But I came in fifth out

471
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 4: of fifteen candidates. A known Republican and I ran as

472
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 4: a Republican. So I figured, you know, to me, that's

473
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 4: that's short a sort of a sign of some type

474
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 4: of popularity amongst the Minneapolis voters despite.

475
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 3: Being a non Republican and a run as a Republican.

476
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,239
Speaker 4: So I decided to run again and put way more

477
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 4: effort into it and thought and run a real campaign.

478
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 4: And I think my popular bother some people because you know,

479
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 4: I think they think they know more than me, they

480
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 4: think they're better than me, they think they have a

481
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 4: greater understanding of the political game. And who is this

482
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 4: black guy the North Side residents.

483
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 3: He's too raw, he doesn't have it, he's not polished.

484
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 3: He's not.

485
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 4: But I'm like, but that's why people like me, because

486
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 4: I'm not polished. I'm not I'm authentic. I'm not some

487
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 4: suit tie wearing you know, Carlton acting like, you know,

488
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 4: I'm so Carleton, said Carlton, because that's what black people

489
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 4: think about Republicans.

490
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 2: You know, I tell you what I say because you

491
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 2: never you haven't heard this I say, and I'm going

492
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 2: to apply it to you. I prefer a Laverne to

493
00:28:55,040 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 2: a white starched shirt wearing blue suit wearing red, white

494
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 2: and blue tie, wearing American, I think like wearing b

495
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Speaker 2: as person.

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Speaker 4: I think in this day and age, I call it

497
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 4: the age, I call it the era of Trump. People

498
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 4: want authenticity, no matter what it is.

499
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: Be you.

500
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 4: When I ran intween twenty one, my campaign outfit was

501
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 4: my campaign T shirt and my khaki shorts because it

502
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 4: was hot outside and I want to be dressed up

503
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 4: in a you know, lost leeve shirt and pants and

504
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 4: a tie. And people are like, well, I'm going to

505
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 4: vote from this because you don't look like a politician.

506
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 3: You look real, a real person.

507
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 4: And I think a lot of people in the Republican

508
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 4: Party are caught up with this what the image of

509
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 4: what a Republican candidate should look like.

510
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 2: Well, that's because if you're willing to bend the need

511
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 2: to assume the image, then you have then in your mind,

512
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 2: subordinated yourself to some kind of ideology.

513
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 4: But I'm trying to break that because that's not going

514
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 4: to serve the party. Well, I made up a term

515
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 4: called urban conservative just to be able to explain the

516
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 4: people or constituents what type of Republican or Conservatives I am. Okay,

517
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 4: I'm not a black Conservative I'm an urban conservative. Okay,

518
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 4: what's the difference.

519
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 3: There is none?

520
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 2: Okay, marketing its presentation, marketing.

521
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 4: You know, I tell people, Hey, I'm a gene xer,

522
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 4: I'm a hip hop culture observer. I were Hoodies and

523
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 4: Timbo's on the you know, and then when it gets

524
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 4: called outside on the campaign trail, for Republicans to make

525
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 4: in roads in an urban area and especially you know,

526
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 4: the black communities, is I'm black. We're talking about black people.

527
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 4: We have to change what the perception of what a

528
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 4: Republican is. We might have to be cool, we might

529
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 4: have to be cool.

530
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 3: Right, this is very important. It's important.

531
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 2: The Democrats control the music, the art, the cinema, the universities.

532
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 2: And we get these people coming up to be Republican

533
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 2: candidates and they can't walk and chew gum, and that

534
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 2: means something in the community, doesn't that it does because

535
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 2: they go, man, this don't want they don't want to

536
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 2: vote for because people vote for people that they see

537
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 2: something in themselves. Right, Oh, that's a great point. They

538
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 2: can relate to it.

539
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 4: So, you know, if you're not a Carlton, if you're

540
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 4: not a bow tie warring black person that went to

541
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 4: an Ivy League school.

542
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 3: You're not gonna be a trying to that candidate.

543
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 2: In fact, I say this, and I'm gonna mention the name,

544
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 2: and you don't have to join in on this. This

545
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: is just me talking my opinion my show. Candle cualls.

546
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 2: I didn't have a problem with Candle. I didn't even

547
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 2: know Kendle, but Candle. They brought Candle into a meeting

548
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 2: I was at. Alex Plackish brought him in actually to

549
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 2: lecture US America firsters, you know, people that were in

550
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 2: the American nationalist movement, on the importance of unity, importance

551
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 2: of unity, unity, that we can beat the Democrat if

552
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: which is unified. We got to put aside our internal

553
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 2: differences and unify. And then I was at the twenty

554
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: twenty four Republican Convention where Royce White won the nomination

555
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 2: for Senate on the first ballot, And after I listened

556
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 2: to Candle excoriate me about unity, like two days later,

557
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 2: he comes out and backs Joe Frasier in a primary challenge,

558
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking to myself, you're telling me to unify,

559
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 2: and then you act like this, Well, here's what I

560
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 2: got to say about Candle, and I don't know the man,

561
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 2: and he might be a great person.

562
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 3: I don't know him. I don't know him, but I

563
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 3: do know him. But I'm going to tell you he's

564
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 3: kind of a I know of it. We've met.

565
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you a question and you just

566
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 2: tell me. Just slap me back if I'm wrong. But

567
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 2: isn't he a little bit Carleton for the community?

568
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 3: Yes?

569
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 2: Oh, so here's what I think about Candle. For all

570
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 2: you people that are backing them, Not only does he

571
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 2: appear to the black community, which courts Republicans black them

572
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 2: because you back them because he's black, But in the

573
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 2: community that's not working. And then the white race of

574
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 2: South State, they ain't gonna vote for him either. So

575
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 2: he's a double downer, you know. And and he's getting

576
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 2: all this money.

577
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,479
Speaker 4: But but the we're going back with the positides that

578
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 4: that is, even though he is seen as a Carlton

579
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 4: in the black community, but if he would align himself

580
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 4: with someone like me or the other black costs in Minneapolis.

581
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 3: They fix that kinds of questions. You can fix that easily.

582
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 2: Just so people that don't know the reference Carleton because

583
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 2: it's an idiom. Would that be from the fresh Prince

584
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,479
Speaker 2: of air. That's right, you know, for any of you

585
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 2: that want to go back and look at some great

586
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 2: sitcom back in the day. It was a story of

587
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 2: a young man who very famous, you know actor. It

588
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 2: was his first start. What was the name of that

589
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 2: I can't think of the name.

590
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 4: Of the frence, the fresh prince was will Smith?

591
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 2: Will Smith, right, sorry, And he was had some problem

592
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: in Philadelphia, so it went out to La to bel Air, right,

593
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 2: I think right?

594
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 3: And he was.

595
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 2: A live with his uncle and lived with design and

596
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 2: his uncle was very successful judge. Judge got out of

597
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 2: the city and he is the judge's son was Carlton. Yes,

598
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 2: so he had this inner city Will Smith, which you

599
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 2: know he wasn't really that inner city, but in the

600
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 2: time it was a situation comedy. And then he had

601
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 2: his cousin, Carlton, Carlton who was wearing the bow tie

602
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 2: and theos.

603
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:31,439
Speaker 4: And dancing to the Tom what's Tom? What's the guy?

604
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 3: The one usual? Oh yeah, I know.

605
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 2: You're talking about the English guy. What's wrong with my

606
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 2: Tom Jones? That's his thing, and Tom Jones pretty cool.

607
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 2: He's pretty cool. So you know you ever seen Tom

608
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 2: Jones sing Purple Ring?

609
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 3: No?

610
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 2: I haven't, oh Man, check it out. He does a

611
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 2: cover of a lot he is. He's still performing where

612
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 2: he's bad ass for there's just something I mean. Actually,

613
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 2: if you look at his body, you work. He's pretty hip.

614
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 2: Tom Jones is cool and he didn't.

615
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 3: Even know that one song and that's because of Carlton. No, no,

616
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 3: he does.

617
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 2: He does a cover of Purple Rain that is off

618
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 2: the chart, off the hook. It's great. Anyhow, for those

619
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 2: of you never heard this idiom Carleton, what Carleton is is, well,

620
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 2: let me just talk. I'm married to the Chinese community.

621
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 2: So we have this thing in the Chinese community, a banana,

622
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 2: yellow on the outside, white on the inside. Okay, No,

623
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 2: that's Chinese people say that, right, And that's really what

624
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 2: you're saying.

625
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 3: That's what Carleton means kind of right, far.

626
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 4: Or less, he's black on the inside of a white

627
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 4: and he's black on the outside white and the inside

628
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 4: pretty much right, right.

629
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 2: And that doesn't really work downtown.

630
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

631
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 4: What is also to me actually a sad commentary that

632
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 4: it actually does that people actually feel like that, because

633
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 4: you know, in the black community there's always the sense

634
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 4: of trying to gauge in just someone's black, right, and

635
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 4: I don't really understand that, you know, because.

636
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 2: You know all communities, they do that in the Jewish

637
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 2: community too. Howlt you assure you that's not unusual?

638
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 4: But go ahead, But I think that but I think

639
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 4: that hurts the way we do it in the black community.

640
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 4: I think that hurts the black community because when a

641
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 4: when a young child happens to be good in school

642
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 4: or like a certain subject and does good in it,

643
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 4: and his peers or his family or somebody around him says,

644
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 4: why you acting white because you like school or you know,

645
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 4: why you study, or why you you're acting white? That's

646
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 4: a negative you know, connotation or application of that.

647
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 2: You want to hear out the works of the Jewish community.

648
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 2: You ready, Why you want to play football? Why do

649
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 2: you want to be in that? Why you want to box?

650
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 3: So I guess it's in all cultures. Oh I'm just

651
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 3: telling you. I mean I had it.

652
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 2: Why you want to why you want to learn, why

653
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 2: you want to do that military? Why you want to

654
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 2: learn how to hurt people? What's wrong with you? Something

655
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 2: wrong with you? Why acting that way?

656
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 4: That's why I say people are people. That's right with

657
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 4: our people. But I'm going back to Kendle he could

658
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 4: solve that problem easily. But yes, me, well, I can't

659
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 4: say he hasn't because I to be you know, full transparency.

660
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 4: We have been in communications lately, you know, and I'm

661
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 4: sure we're trying to build alliances and friends, you know whatever,

662
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 4: here and there. So I'm not I'm not attacking him.

663
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 4: I'm just staying in the obviage. You ask me a question,

664
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 4: how does the black community see him? And I answered it.

665
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 2: I said it was my thing. I mean, they brought

666
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 2: him in to lecture me about unity. I took it personal,

667
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 2: and then when it came time for unity, there was

668
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 2: no unity from him. So you know, if you're going

669
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 2: to preach it, you got to live it, because then

670
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 2: you're just talking. And that's kind of what I use me,

671
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 2: you know. You know, I don't just talk to talk.

672
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 2: I walk the walk, right, you know, And so a

673
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 2: lot of people don't like that. A lot of people

674
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 2: want to get away with just talking to talk but

675
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 2: not walking the walk.

676
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 4: And that's why I'm running from here. I'm I'm not

677
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 4: well off, affluent. God, me and my me and my

678
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 4: wife live checked the chair, you know.

679
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 2: But like everybody, like most people, you know, and so

680
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: that so my passion and drive comes from a different place.

681
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 2: But you know, working check to check. There's a beauty

682
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: in that that people don't understand. Gotta have faith to

683
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 2: do deal with that. You gotta believe that there's gonna be.

684
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 4: You gotta be strong and be resilient and and and

685
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 4: you know real and have this I'll never give up

686
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 4: type attitude.

687
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 2: Right, I'm not gonna get beat And part of I mean, now,

688
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 2: now we're talking about why I think there's a gap

689
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 2: between particularly the suburban Republicans out here in CD three,

690
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 2: people are affluent, there's such a gap of understanding about

691
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 2: how people live they I mean, I don't think and

692
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 2: for me, you know, I mean I've had hard times

693
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 2: in my life. So when you have hard times, when

694
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 2: you got to work just to not go down, like

695
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 2: in other words, I'm not going down because I'm not

696
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: giving up.

697
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 3: Do you know what I'm saying. I don't regrets people

698
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 3: for having a good life.

699
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 4: If if their parents were able to provide them a good, comfortable,

700
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 4: safe life, that's great.

701
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 3: You know, that's the American dream.

702
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 4: It's just you know, I want to help my community

703
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 4: and those who want to achieve the American dream, chieve

704
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 4: the American dream, and the current political leadership of Minneapolis

705
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:22,959
Speaker 4: isn't help them provide that American dream.

706
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question to the people that

707
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 2: are black living in Minneapolis, or to you Laverne Turner

708
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 2: to fine them, what is today the American dream? What

709
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 2: does that mean?

710
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 3: To make as much money as you possibly can? Okay?

711
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 3: And boy, whatever you want? Okay. You know people want

712
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 3: to be rich.

713
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 2: Economic freedom, yes, economic freedom.

714
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 4: That's what That's what all most people want, especially I

715
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 4: know that's what Black people want.

716
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 2: They want, they want to they want to be economically free.

717
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 4: Yes, and that's why a lot of us are aspiring entrepreneurs,

718
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 4: even though you know, the current narrative is that, you know,

719
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 4: black people can't and get id's but we want. But

720
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 4: we're entrepreneurs, we want to start businesses. We're child of

721
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 4: the people telling us we can't. We need the government

722
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 4: for everything.

723
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 3: You know? And then but.

724
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 2: So do you are you familiar with META, the Minneapolis

725
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 2: Economic Development Agency?

726
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 3: Uh?

727
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 4: Yes, But my opinion is of that is that's just

728
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 4: another armor of the DFL, you know too, in their

729
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 4: way of pandering to the black community, that it really

730
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 4: doesn't that really doesn't end up with any results.

731
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 2: So the point of we're going to teach you how

732
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 2: to be an entrepreneur, no, No, it's about finance, Yes,

733
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,280
Speaker 2: about getting resources.

734
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 4: Capital, capital, investment lenders, all that stuff. But at the

735
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 4: same time, there are a lot of aspiring entrepreneurs who

736
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 4: don't have a worthy product to be invested in.

737
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 3: So it goes, it goes both ways. I mean, you

738
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I'm not saying.

739
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 4: There's a lot, a lot a lot of the way

740
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 4: a lot of black people look and describe aspiring business

741
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 4: owners or entrepreneurs, and also the way the left talks

742
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 4: about it when they want to give great will give

743
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 4: you fifty thousand dollars a grant to start a business.

744
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 3: It hasn't worked that way because if you.

745
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 4: Don't have a viable product or a viable service or

746
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 4: a good that someone wants, you can get that grant,

747
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 4: and that's not going to help you. It's most likely

748
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 4: you're probably going to spend it on something else, or

749
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 4: you know that little it's pandering, it's buying votes, it's

750
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:48,280
Speaker 4: making it's continuing that that narrative that Democrats love minority

751
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 4: so much that they have all these different programs for

752
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 4: you know, fifty thousand dollars for this, you know, social services, healthcare.

753
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 3: Way, you know, whatever it is.

754
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 4: It's like trying to buy support, even though that that

755
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,919
Speaker 4: support isn't going to help you in the long run

756
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 4: or help you get to where you're trying to get.

757
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 4: But it's it's it's pacifying people enough to keep voting

758
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 4: Democrat and that's all they really about.

759
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 2: It sounds to me like it's a bookend because on

760
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 2: the one time there's that pandering you call it pandering,

761
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 2: and then Republicans don't even show up. So, you know,

762
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 2: like I said earlier, at least they're showing up and

763
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 2: putting on a show and tail story.

764
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 3: So what do you expect from people to do.

765
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 4: At least they're they're like I said, they're voting for

766
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 4: the one the only game in town. They're playing with

767
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 4: the only game in town.

768
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 2: And for the people that are out of state that

769
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 2: don't come into the city. The economic I mean, we

770
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 2: know that there's a lot of poverty in the city

771
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 2: and problems, but is there a vibrant, growing entrepreneurial class

772
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 2: of people in the city that are opening businesses.

773
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 4: Well, I won't say open when I say aspire, I

774
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 4: mean aspire I have an idea. They have a concept,

775
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,439
Speaker 4: but they have no idea how to make it successful.

776
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 3: Or the resources to make it successful.

777
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 4: Like when I go to all these festivals on the

778
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 4: summer June team open streets.

779
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 3: You know, it's about to be the.

780
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 4: Fall now, so it's going to be some more some

781
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 4: more events, you know, going into Labor Day and whatever,

782
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 4: and you have all these aspiring, aspiring entrepreneurs. They might

783
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 4: bake sweets or cookies or something or whatever they do

784
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 4: barbecue or fish or whatever, their whatever their dream is.

785
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 4: They're going to be at these festivals hoping that, you know,

786
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 4: or thinking that this little what they're doing at this

787
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 4: festival is a part of the past or the success.

788
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 3: Well, that's necessarily the case.

789
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 4: If you can't get a linearge of fund or fund

790
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 4: you or some real investment capital. You're kind of just

791
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 4: going through the motions of acting like you're a business person,

792
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 4: but really not even doing anything to make that a

793
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 4: real reality. You know what I mean, you're playing business person.

794
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 2: Is there an cultural awareness in the community of what

795
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 2: it takes to actually own and operate and make a

796
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:31,919
Speaker 2: business successful or is that fundamental knowledge really not part

797
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 2: of people's life.

798
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 3: I think I think they I think some people do

799
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 3: know what it takes.

800
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 4: I just think that they don't have the opportunity or

801
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 4: the access to venture capital.

802
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 2: You know, I'm just going to say this, and I'm

803
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 2: not I'm just talking about my own experience, and I'm

804
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 2: not saying this is right, wrong or indifferent because I

805
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,240
Speaker 2: didn't come from money and I didn't come from business people.

806
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 2: I come from my father taught at the University of Minnesota,

807
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 2: and we we were middle class because university, you know,

808
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 2: takes care of its people. But we weren't rich. I mean,

809
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 2: we didn't get on airplanes on going vacations. Vacation was

810
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 2: drive up to the boundary waters and you know, hang

811
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: out in nature for two weeks. And there wasn't anything

812
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 2: rich about my background. And you know, I get this

813
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 2: thing because I got to be like eighteen nineteen years

814
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 2: old and I had this academic path laid out for

815
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 2: me like you did, and I said, I want to

816
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 2: get rich. I mean really that. I mean, I just

817
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 2: had this feeling like I want to I don't want

818
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 2: to do this. I don't want to be shackled to

819
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 2: the university life. I want to walk as. I had

820
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 2: no idea what I'm just figuring it out now. I

821
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 2: mean I really because it's not my background. But I actually,

822
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 2: you know, my first apartment, the bed came out of

823
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 2: the wall, and I drove a carp that I rented

824
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,479
Speaker 2: from a company. And you'll get this, all these rent

825
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 2: erect And I opened a business when I was eighteen

826
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 2: years old. I had no idea what I was doing.

827
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 2: But the thing that that business work and what's making

828
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 2: my business work today is I just won't go down.

829
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm taking a beating, I mean really a

830
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 2: beating because it's been very hard. I mean, and I

831
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 2: just think about in the city after the four years

832
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 2: that Biden administration and the inflation and the COVID thing

833
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 2: and everything that's happened. It's been so hard on experienced

834
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 2: entrepreneurs like me. They call it the middle market, you know.

835
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 2: Or I don't like that. I call it the middle

836
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 2: market because it sounds so much better than me than

837
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 2: small business. I don't like that when they as you've

838
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 2: got a small business, I'm doing your small business. Okay,

839
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 2: excuse me, damn, But I feel that way because it's pejorative, right,

840
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 2: I feel that way. But the middle market, you know,

841
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 2: entrepreneurs that come up from the community and open businesses

842
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 2: to support their families economic freedom. It's been so hard

843
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 2: on experienced people that I can only imagine how tough

844
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 2: it is. Oh, it's got to be just like a

845
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 2: mountain it is. But you know, like I said, they're

846
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 2: still trying. Well, that's that's my point, still trying. You

847
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 2: gotta if you want to do it, you gotta do it.

848
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 2: You gotta fake it till you make it.

849
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 4: But I want to be able to be I want

850
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 4: I don't want to go to specific policy stuff because

851
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 4: I have a huge economic rebalization plan for Minneapolis, but

852
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 4: I don't want to go to that right now. But

853
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 4: I do want to be able to provide people with

854
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 4: the access to because I know there's a lot of

855
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,760
Speaker 4: I know there's people who do have good products and

856
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 4: that that that would that someone who had capital invests

857
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 4: would want to invest in. I want to be able

858
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 4: to provide them with the access to that capital. I

859
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:39,479
Speaker 4: want to be able to sit down with the banks

860
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 4: and be like, hey, let's you know, that's let's be

861
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 4: more lenient on you know, sort of giving out loans

862
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 4: or whatever as long as they have a good product,

863
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 4: they have a great business plan, and get your money back.

864
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 4: Let's give these experient entrepreneurs a chance. Give them a

865
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 4: chance in my in my new Miniapois Economy for the

866
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 4: twinty first century.

867
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 3: Let's let's try it.

868
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,240
Speaker 4: So I want to be able to not just promise

869
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 4: stuff and say hey, I want to help you, or

870
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 4: I want to actually help people navigate and give them

871
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 4: the access that they need to try to make their

872
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 4: dreams come true and without an I'm talking about grant

873
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 4: government grants because because you know, a lot of people

874
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 4: in Minneapolis, they make their money off of nonprofit work right,

875
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 4: and they call that a business.

876
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 2: You know, I'm going to tell you, I don't think

877
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 2: Minnesotans really understand this NGO.

878
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 3: They don't.

879
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 2: There's I think over thirty thousand NGOs just in Minnesota,

880
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 2: just in Minnesota.

881
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 3: Wan't be surprised.

882
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you know who monitors all that is,

883
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 2: Turney General Keith Elsey. Yes, isn't that interesting? And these

884
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 2: NGOs are in large part or and some of them

885
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,720
Speaker 2: are majorly funded by the government.

886
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 3: Yes, all of them.

887
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 4: There's a the ones, especially the ones in my neighborhood

888
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 4: of Northmandy APIs when we talk about NGOs talking about the.

889
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 3: Violence interrupters, say that again, what do we call them?

890
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 3: The violence interrupters?

891
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 2: The violence and interrupts.

892
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 4: That's the that's the current city council, city communists council.

893
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 4: Who should call them? And Jacob Fries community policing efforts

894
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 4: after the George Florida riots and trying to uh, you know,

895
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 4: they're to me, they're defund the police movement. You know,

896
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 4: let's give this, let's give these money in too, common citizens,

897
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 4: these undos that higher common sitizs to be.

898
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 3: I don't know what you call them.

899
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 4: They're not police officers or they don't have any skills,

900
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 4: they don't have any training. But the point is a

901
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 4: lot of these, especially in Minneapolis, the nonprofits, they get

902
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 4: government funding which is of course given out to them

903
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 4: by the leadership who are Democrats.

904
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 3: And this state funded a lot of it.

905
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 4: Well, no, some of it is fed well all of

906
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 4: us federal, but you know it depends on who's giving

907
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 4: it out. You can go to the stake and give

908
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 4: it out. They kind of get handed out, the city

909
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 4: get handed out. So there's different levels of missialities who

910
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 4: access to give out to these type.

911
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 2: Of but it is taxpayer, yes, so the taxpayers.

912
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 3: Paying for this.

913
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 4: And I don't know if you heard about this, but

914
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 4: one of these vous interrupters groups actually had a shootout

915
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 4: with I'm assuming a drug dealer in the neighborhood and

916
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 4: ended up one of them straight bullets went into a

917
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 4: little child's bedroom. So that particular interrupter interrupted group lost

918
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 4: their funding because of that incident. I heard about it, okay,

919
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 4: So so, but these are the same people who are

920
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 4: sort of the They get these contracts from the government

921
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 4: because it's part of the political hierarchy of getting the

922
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 4: current elected officials re elected.

923
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 2: I think they call it the patronage system in the

924
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 2: days gone by.

925
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 4: I call it pandering and cronyism, That's what I call it.

926
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 4: And the only people that get these grants are the

927
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 4: ones that the current leaders heart officials know are going

928
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 4: to support them in the next election.

929
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 2: So they get an income through an NGO. Could be

930
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 2: a pretty good income, very good income. I mean someone

931
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 2: could be, you know, pretty good two three hundred thousand

932
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 2: bucks a year.

933
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 4: Try to of these to of these organizations got one

934
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 4: point five million dollars for twenty six and twenty seven.

935
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 2: So then the executive officer and the officers of the NGO,

936
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 2: because it does function like a business, they see it

937
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 2: as a business. Now they have money in their pocket,

938
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 2: so now they can write the donation to the local

939
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 2: Democrat candidate.

940
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 4: And tell all their followers because mostly people are churches, right,

941
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:41,280
Speaker 4: most of these are churches.

942
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 3: Okay, getting down to it now.

943
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 4: So now not only are you, you know, cutting some

944
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 4: little cake back checks to the people that gave you

945
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 4: those grants, you're also telling your congregations and people that

946
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 4: follow you in the community to vote for you.

947
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,919
Speaker 3: What do you call it a kickback? Okay? Now there's

948
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 3: a legal means to that. Yeah, I know what I said.

949
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 3: I know it, okay, and I'm standing by that. Okay.

950
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 4: So, especially even in the Feeding Our Future case, there's

951
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 4: a list of the Somali so called business owners or

952
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 4: nonprofit people that's claiming to feed all these children and

953
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 4: how much money they got for the program and how

954
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 4: much political contributions they give back to these candidates.

955
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 3: This is that list.

956
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 2: So you, I don't know what you call that. Be

957
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 2: called something looks like a kick back to me. It

958
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 2: called a legal kickback. It's a legal kickback. It's legal.

959
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 2: I mean, that's you know, this is something I've noticed

960
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 2: because I have a lot of friends that live in Mexico,

961
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 2: have been down in Mexico many times. In Mexico. The corruption, Now,

962
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 2: this goes back. I've been doing this for decades because

963
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:48,879
Speaker 2: I just have. I don't know why that guy ended

964
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 2: up in it, you know, Mexico. When I started going

965
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 2: down there, I thought, man, this place is corrupt, because

966
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 2: you know, I'm an American and like this. I'm going

967
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 2: back now thirty years or twenty years ago when this started,

968
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 2: I hadn't had that awakening and I saw this corruption

969
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 2: down there, and I thought, man, how do you guys

970
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 2: put up with this? And my friend down there he said, Migo,

971
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 2: come on, what we're doing is small, duke compared to

972
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 2: what you all got going on up in your tay.

973
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 3: And I watched it.

974
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 2: I thought about that and said, when you live in

975
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 2: a society where you don't see the corruption because it's

976
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 2: so well managed, it's legal, because what we're talking about

977
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 2: is legalized corruption. It's not corruption if it's legal, but

978
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 2: that doesn't mean it's ethical or moral or that it

979
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 2: serves the people. And then all the taxpayers of this country,

980
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 2: in particularly the state of Minnesota or whatever state you're in,

981
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 2: because these NGOs are in every state these that's how

982
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 2: the Democrat Party wields its influence and its power. And

983
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 2: here in Minnesota, Republicans, you know, our Republican Party leaders

984
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 2: are either loath to call this out until it serves

985
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 2: them politically. You know, if you're a sheep dog. Well,

986
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 2: you know, if you're a sheep dog, you know you're

987
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 2: you're defending the sheep. Okay, don't talk about it afterwards

988
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 2: when it gets you a ball of dog food. The

989
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 2: idea with corruption is call it out as it's happening.

990
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 2: You don't have to have political power to tell the

991
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 2: truth and awaken the people to what's going on. You

992
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 2: just need a little courage, And.

993
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 4: Well, courage is definitely missing Minnesota GOP right now. I've

994
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 4: been saying that for a minute.

995
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 3: I'm a Republican party.

996
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 4: I'm trying to figure out, you know, what is really

997
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 4: stopping Republicans from doing what I mean. I think it's

998
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 4: obviously the right thing to do, which is to stop

999
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 4: ignoring the urban core. If you want to win statewide,

1000
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 4: don't just be complaining about or we can't win still

1001
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,439
Speaker 4: with an election because of Minneapolis and Saint Paul.

1002
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 3: But why is that?

1003
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 4: Why aren't you campaigning there? Why aren't you jumping a

1004
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 4: million dollars in North Minneapolis a campaign to the black community.

1005
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 4: Why aren't you investing five million dollars just to campus

1006
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 4: and campaign and fund workers to advocate for you in

1007
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:19,919
Speaker 4: Minneapolis and Saint Paul.

1008
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 3: Why not do that? You don't have to be there yourself.

1009
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 3: The Republicans in the urban crrect myself, who would.

1010
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 4: Gladly, you know, take a little check the campaign for

1011
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 4: you and get all my friends and family and be like, hey,

1012
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 4: this is a good guy right here.

1013
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 3: I know this person.

1014
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 4: He's for this, this and this and this. You don't

1015
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 4: have to do it, Let us do it. Why not

1016
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 4: you want to do it? I want to do it,

1017
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 4: but you refuse to let me do it. And that's

1018
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:47,240
Speaker 4: the problem.

1019
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 3: Why do you think that is?

1020
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 4: I thought about I've thought about this over the years.

1021
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, this is pretty much speculation. But I've thought

1022
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 4: about this over the years, and I come up with

1023
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 4: eat of two things. One they don't care really yeah.

1024
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 4: Two they don't want to spend the money, yeah. Three

1025
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 4: they want to sort.

1026
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 2: Of horror whatever little power they have already. They don't

1027
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 2: care about anything else. How about it benefits, how about

1028
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 2: it it's a benefit.

1029
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 3: Well, the overall goals.

1030
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 2: I think that falls under the hoard and the power thing. Okay, right,

1031
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 2: you know I get you know what pisses me off.

1032
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, you know, I'm entitled to get

1033
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 2: pissed off on certain little things. So there's a Republican

1034
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 2: news source. You know, it's a competitor Free People Radio.

1035
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:39,959
Speaker 2: It's well established Alpha News. And I'm not saying Alpha

1036
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 2: News does or doesn't do some good things in the community.

1037
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 2: I don't know, but you know, I'm I follow them

1038
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 2: on AX and you know, every week another black face

1039
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 2: got to let you know, got arrested, black face, black face,

1040
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 2: black face, black face, all this black crime getting reported,

1041
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 2: and what it does here out here in CD three

1042
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 2: where I live, it just scares they all out of

1043
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 2: the Republicans that are out here in the suburbs, Like

1044
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 2: there's something inherently violent and criminal about the black community

1045
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 2: and it's being reinforced.

1046
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 4: Ain't nothing new, Well that that's been, that's been you know,

1047
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 4: that's been a narrative since before I was born. That

1048
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 4: narrative existed when I was a teenager. I grew up

1049
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 4: in the just say no to drugs, were on gangs,

1050
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 4: we're on drugs. That ain't nothing new. But my thing

1051
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 4: is that it didn't even matter anymore because my perspective is,

1052
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 4: I don't I don't expect this white I don't have

1053
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 4: this white savior complex. I don't expect some white person

1054
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 4: to save me.

1055
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't.

1056
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 4: I don't want people to be like, I need this

1057
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 4: white person for me to be successful. I don't need

1058
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 4: some white person to save me. I don't need that.

1059
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 4: I don't want that. Let me do me and all

1060
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 4: achieve my own success. But don't try to stop me,

1061
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 4: because you're not You can try to stop me, but

1062
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna let you stop me anyway.

1063
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 3: But the point is.

1064
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 4: When I talk to when I talk to people in

1065
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 4: Minneapolis about politics and about UH participating in our representative

1066
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 4: government that we're blessed to be a part of. If

1067
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 4: we don't participate, if we don't actively exercise our god

1068
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:31,919
Speaker 4: given rights as citizens to participate and and hold our

1069
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 4: elected officials accountable, we deserve whatever whatever we get right

1070
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 4: because we're we're we're.

1071
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 3: Forfeiting we don't.

1072
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 4: We know if we don't involve ourselves and we're forfeiting

1073
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 4: our our rights right or say so so whatever whatever

1074
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 4: policy we get, that's what we get.

1075
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 3: We deserve because we're not participating.

1076
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 2: If we.

1077
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 4: They always say the black the black population is like,

1078
00:58:57,880 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 4: you know, thirteen percent or whatever, and there's a smaller

1079
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 4: portion that votes and don't vote. Minneapolis last election, for

1080
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 4: between twenty one, I believe roughly maybe one hundred and

1081
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 4: thirty seven thousand votes were totally cast with a whole

1082
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 4: election right, one hundred and thirty seven people voted, voted.

1083
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Speaker 4: Minneapolis is a town of half a million people, So

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Speaker 4: we leave in three hundred and seventy five thousand votes

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Speaker 4: on the table, just because people don't believe in the

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00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 4: system anymore. They don't think it even matters. The reason

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00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 4: why black people don't vote, we are we're pretty much

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00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 4: given up on having any faith in the process.

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Speaker 3: Is that something that you hear from your cohorts all

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Speaker 3: the time?

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Speaker 4: People, Oh, that's politics, said that ain't meant for us,

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Speaker 4: and I never nothing that ever changes.

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Speaker 3: Look, we voted for Obama.

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Speaker 4: Shit got worse the politics, you know, that's that's that's

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00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 4: why people's game ain't got noning to do with us.

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Speaker 3: They don't, We don't. People don't believe in the system.

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Speaker 4: And we have a right to we have well, we

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Speaker 4: have a right to because all our existences in this

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01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 4: country has been uh oppressive, from being here, from slavery,

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Speaker 4: you know whatever, what's after that, Jim Crow KKK segregated

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Speaker 4: South civil rights movement. The people that benefit the most

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Speaker 4: from our struggle for the civil rights movement are white women, homosexually,

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01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 4: the gay lesby community, and.

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Speaker 3: Any other group there. You know, people, people are tired.

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Speaker 3: We just don't.

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Speaker 2: In other words, other groups our benefits capitalized off the

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Speaker 2: civil rights movement.

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Speaker 3: And so we're just like, man, you know, screw it,

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Speaker 3: but we're done.

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Speaker 4: And you know, but when we do that, we don't

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Speaker 4: realize that we're making things worse for ourselves. And if

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Speaker 4: we really want to the American dream, or if we

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01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 4: really want to improve our status in society where people

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01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 4: don't have that image that you know that that's we're

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01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 4: just inherently violent people. We could change that nerveve if

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01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 4: we wanted to, we could, but we don't because we

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01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 4: don't even really care what they think. We don't care

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01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 4: about the process. We don't care about none of that.

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01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 4: We're just trying to live, make some money, and go

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Speaker 4: about our life. We have no faith in the system.

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01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 4: How can you have faith in the systems that's always

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01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 4: fucked you over in our existence of being in this

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Speaker 4: country and to this day. Let's take the illegal immigration,

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Speaker 4: the illegal immigration push, having all these illegal immigrants, you

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Speaker 4: now for any for any American born true citizens. What

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01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 4: Biden did and all the previous influx of illegal aliens

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Speaker 4: come into America, that hurts all our citizenship. It devalues

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Speaker 4: all of our citizenship, but particularly for the black community

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Speaker 4: who struggled so long and so hard from slavery the

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Speaker 4: civil rights till now that have some type of equality

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01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 4: in this country. We're allowing ourselves to become second classes

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Speaker 4: again by accepting or thinking it's okay to allow all

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Speaker 4: of the little immigrants to stay in this country. And

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Speaker 4: that's a problem because we don't Most Black Americans don't

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Speaker 4: even invite our own citizenship.

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Speaker 2: So are the NGOs in the city working to get

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01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 2: the community to accept.

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Speaker 4: Of course, NGOs candidates, I mean I know at least

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Speaker 4: three or black candidates that's running for city council or

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Speaker 4: some kind of office, and they support the Democrats position

1141
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:52,479
Speaker 4: of stopping ICE from taking illegal criminal alience of the state.

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Speaker 2: You can give you a surprise. There's a lot of

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01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 2: Republicans that agree with that too.

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Speaker 3: That what that ICE shouldn't be removing legally.

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01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 2: The newcomers should be supported because it's a business.

1146
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 3: Oh, it's a business. I understand that. But the Republicans,

1147
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 3: I feel like that they're fools.

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Speaker 4: And the black people who are advocating for this to

1149
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 4: the black community, advocating that that's that supports something that

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01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 4: makes a second class. This is again, are just as

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01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 4: big as fools as the Republicans. And I'll say it

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Speaker 4: all day.

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Speaker 2: And people are going to say, what do you mean

1154
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 2: Republicans are supportive of illegal immigration. Well, I'm gonna tell you.

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01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 2: I've called some of them out and they don't like

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01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 2: it because you're either going to well, you know, we

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01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 2: got to say no, no, it's not it's not personal

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Speaker 2: for them. But in my where I live in a

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Speaker 2: in an area called senat District forty five and the

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Speaker 2: House member in forty five a as a man named

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Speaker 2: Representative Andrew Myers, and I look down his X because

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01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 2: I follow these people, and there was a picture with

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Speaker 2: him and a hand upon County Sheriff Katerina Wit and

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Speaker 2: the the caption was so glad, I mean, I'm paraffra. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm so sorry. There is an academy yes, and

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Speaker 2: County sheriff excuse me, thank you so can't. The the

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Speaker 2: caption was paraphrasing, I'm so glad to be with and

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Speaker 2: up and County Sheriff with and I support everything. We're

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01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 2: so glad to work together and we support her fully.

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Speaker 2: And the next day she came out and said in

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Speaker 2: a press release, we are not going to assist ice.

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Speaker 2: And I went to this representative, I said, what kind

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Speaker 2: of what are you doing here? And he said, well,

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Speaker 2: it has nothing to do with that. I said, no, brother,

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Speaker 2: I mean you're going to have proved that to me,

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Speaker 2: because what it looked like to me is you were

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Speaker 2: putting out a signed all leftists in your district that

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Speaker 2: you're done with this. And it's very subtle and it's

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01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 2: very tricky, but you know, the entire Republican party. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's not with.

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Speaker 3: The Trump.

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Speaker 2: And what you're saying is which I think is critical

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01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 2: that Republicans because what I'm looking for is I'm looking

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01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 2: for ideas and issues that unite everyone in the state.

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Speaker 2: And we live in a globalist state, and this illegal

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01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 2: immigration nobody is really thinking about what it's doing in

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Speaker 2: the city. I mean, you're thinking about this.

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Speaker 3: It's back to it'spec what you said about being a business.

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Speaker 4: You know a lot of a lot of these people

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Speaker 4: in the Minneapolis, whether they're an NGO or a candidate

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01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 4: or an elected official. Even though because I know a

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01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 4: candidate that's running for the fourth Ward City Council against Vita,

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Speaker 4: the current city council person, I was spoken to her

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Speaker 4: privately and she agrees with my position. She agrees that

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Speaker 4: we should be you know, my supporting illegals. She agrees

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Speaker 4: that along this day is making a second class citizens

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01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 4: and devalue in our citizens. She agrees with me privately,

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01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 4: but because she's a part of the default party, she

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Speaker 4: doesn't want to lose her support. She doesn't want to

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01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 4: lose that financing. She doesn't want to lose the funding

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01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 4: that goes to her nonprofit. When she's not running, she's

1202
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 4: still publicly advocating the opposite because personally that affects her

1203
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 4: personal finances. Instead of doing what's right, so they.

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Speaker 2: Put her on the pay roll in they're buying her compliance.

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Speaker 4: She's not the only one, but I'm just giving you

1206
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 4: that an example. It's all over the place. So someone

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01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 4: like me and they laugh at me, Oliver, and you

1208
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 4: just you know, you just Republican. Ah no, you agree

1209
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 4: with me. But you know, if you come out and

1210
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 4: say that publicly, what I just said is gonna cost

1211
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 4: you and you don't want that. But that also tells

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01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 4: me that when they get in the voting booth, they're

1213
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 4: probably gonna vote form because probably they agree with me.

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Speaker 2: You know that eleven percent there's twenty sanctuary counties in

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01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 2: Minnesota that were identified by the Department of Homeland Services

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01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 2: as sanctuary counties. Eleven percent of the budgets of those

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Speaker 2: counties is dedicated towards servicing the quote unquote newcomer community.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about big bit, We're talking about one hundreds,

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01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 2: these hundreds of men's of dollars.

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Speaker 4: This business, you know, And that's why some Republican elected

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01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 4: officials give these silent signals that they're fine with it

1222
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 4: because they want that tax revenue dollars for their districts.

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Speaker 4: That's exactly correct, that's it. Well, that's not right.

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01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 3: No, it's not but hey, but hey nothing.

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Speaker 4: That's why you know, cities like Brooklyn Center and Brooklyn Park, Bloomington, Dyna, Richfield,

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01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 4: Columbia Heights, New Hope, they are taking in more there.

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Speaker 4: They're taking more applications for what they call it public housing,

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01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 4: right because they want that tax whatever, they want that

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01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 4: money coming into the city.

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Speaker 2: I'm to tell you something. I live right on the

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Speaker 2: boundary of Minnetonka Plymouth. Go right across the street you're

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Speaker 2: in Plymouth. I mean, I live in Minnetonka.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: You go just a little bit south where I live

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Speaker 2: and you hit the forty million dollar homes. You go

1236
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 2: across the street from where I live in the homes

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01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 2: are one hundred and seventy five thousand bucks. And right

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01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 2: next to my house, I mean right next door, there's

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Speaker 2: twenty Spanish speakers living in one house. I'm talking about

1240
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 2: my next door to me. They're cool, they don't come

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01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 2: out of the house, never any problem. There's twenty people

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Speaker 2: living in a two bedroom home.

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Speaker 3: Up the block.

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Speaker 2: There is I don't know, eight ten And I'm not

1245
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 2: saying this to be islamophobic. I'm just saying there is Limists.

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01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 2: They're Muslims living in this home. These people are brand

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01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:06,639
Speaker 2: new to the community and those people when I walk

1248
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 2: by the home, they glare at me. So it's a

1249
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 2: little bit threatening. But but my point is when you

1250
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 2: talk about that public housing, the reason the city allows

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01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 2: that is there's public money for that. And so when

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01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 2: you say it's what people don't understand about government, but

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01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 2: then you also it's also tied to that government dependency thing.

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01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 4: Right, So in in districts that are more affluent, you know,

1255
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 4: traditionally like Wnatga, was that a Hopkins blah blah blah blah.

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01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 4: They are they they are. They allow the influx that

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01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 4: of that taxpace to come in, but it's still also

1258
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 4: depending having that dependency class under for the Democrats, right,

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01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 4: so that that builds up their voting based in those areas.

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Speaker 2: They're expanding burbs, expanding their programs, do all the social

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01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 2: society any means necessary, right.

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Speaker 4: So for all the that's that's why that's why all

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01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:15,639
Speaker 4: the inner Ring suburbs, like I said Richfield, that's why

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01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 4: they're going progressive and almost ds A right out of

1265
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:26,719
Speaker 4: Ring suburbs, Mebo Grove, whatever's around that there their redness

1266
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 4: is getting pink right because there's so many of these

1267
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 4: people being allowed Let's just see are moving there who

1268
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 4: are depending on the government. And if you do depend

1269
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 4: on the government, you're going to vote to keep your

1270
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 4: dependency on government.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 4: So that's why we're losing so many seats in the

1273
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 4: House or in the state legation. State legislature is because

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01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 4: they are expanding outwards. But the cities that are they're

1275
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 4: expanding to they want that government tax increment financing that

1276
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 4: comes from having these social services. And I forgot all

1277
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:04,520
Speaker 4: the superd little cold language.

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01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 2: They have for they got more programs than Carter's got picked.

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01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 3: Right, and so I mean, I want to try to

1280
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 3: name everything, but they do this and it's working. You know.

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01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 4: That's why Maple Grove barely it's barely red now when

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01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:24,480
Speaker 4: it used to be staunch red right. You know, Bloomington

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01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 4: when I grew up, Bloomington was red. And let me

1284
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 4: just make a comment, Dina was red. I just where

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01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 4: I live in Wiseta in Minnetonka. I mean CD three

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01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 4: up until Eric Paulson in twenty sixteen trash Trump trashed them.

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01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:44,839
Speaker 4: The district went blue, and now it's sixty forty district,

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01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 4: and you know that happened for a lot of different reasons.

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01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:49,680
Speaker 4: But you know, I mean, go ahead, you can go

1290
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 4: far out as far as Shakopee in the Jordan area

1291
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 4: changing out there too, that's as she Crags area. They

1292
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 4: can't beat Edgie Craig out there. So what does that

1293
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 4: tell you that liberalism is it's pouring over all.

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Speaker 2: And of course they have the university, and then the

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01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 2: university is part of it getting everybody educated that way,

1296
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 2: and culture, music, television, movies, and so here we come now.

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01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:18,640
Speaker 2: And when I'm saying to the Republican Party officers that

1298
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:20,679
Speaker 2: are listening to me, who can get to alex PLETX,

1299
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 2: who can get to the top people? You know, back

1300
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:26,760
Speaker 2: to this Von clause, which you know, war's politics by

1301
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 2: the means, that means politics is war by their means.

1302
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 2: We got to get these people interested in defending their

1303
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 2: home base so they have less time and resources to

1304
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 2: come out into the rest.

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Speaker 3: Of the stay.

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01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 4: And and that was a part of my that was

1307
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:45,600
Speaker 4: a part of my message and strategy when I was

1308
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 4: courting donors, is that, hey, if you don't want the

1309
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 4: mess that's that's in Minneapolis has spread to where you are.

1310
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 4: You need to support me so I can fight it,

1311
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 4: you know, on the front lines, behind emy line.

1312
01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 2: That was George Bush's pitch about why we need to

1313
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 2: go over and I by Afghanistan in Iraq. We gotta

1314
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 2: fight them over there so they come don't come over here.

1315
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:08,679
Speaker 2: And right, it's the same idea and it's uncontested. You're buyers,

1316
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 2: not by yourself, but you're not getting the institutional support

1317
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:14,680
Speaker 2: that you need. And what I'm saying to all the

1318
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 2: party officers all over the state that hear this, that

1319
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 2: know me, we have to start. We have to reimagine

1320
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 2: our strategy because our strategy is not a winning strategy.

1321
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 2: In fact, we're the Washington Generals, yes, right, yeah, we

1322
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 2: had bad news bears. We had we had we had

1323
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 2: the Carlton and now we got the idiom of the

1324
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:39,680
Speaker 2: wh And for those of you that don't know the

1325
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 2: Washington Generals, because I think some of you don't know it.

1326
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 2: So I love the Harlem Globe tracks because it was cool, right,

1327
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 2: it was entertaining. They were basketball Wizards, but they had

1328
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 2: a team of losers that traveled with them, and they

1329
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 2: were the Washington Generals. They were the controlled opposition. They

1330
01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 2: were there just to be on the court. And that's correct,

1331
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:06,600
Speaker 2: and awfully meddle lock Lemon was a master, you know so,

1332
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 2: and that's who we've become. And then I listened to

1333
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 2: the party hierarchy say we've got such a great chance.

1334
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 2: And twenty twenty six the party. First of all, the

1335
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 2: party is broken into let's just be frank, we got

1336
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 2: your problem, which is your million people between Saint Paul

1337
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 2: Minneapolis getting ignored because Rondo's just like North yep Okay,

1338
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 2: so we got an in state urban divide. That's a chasm.

1339
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:37,680
Speaker 2: But you know that in the party, Oh, it's going

1340
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 2: to be a throwdown now, I mean in the party itself.

1341
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 4: That's kind I've always been the kids with our party, right,

1342
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 4: I mean, the libertarian wing is always mad at somebody.

1343
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 4: The I was gonna say extreme, but the Christian conservative

1344
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 4: wing don't like somebody because of this, the moderate Republicans

1345
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:59,680
Speaker 4: are mad at everybody. You know, There's never really been

1346
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 4: any unity in the party.

1347
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 3: I know, well, it was unified during Reagan.

1348
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 2: Oh wow. I mean, I mean I was a voter

1349
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:11,759
Speaker 2: and I was a youngster, then I was an adult.

1350
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 2: There have been moments of relative unity, relative relative you know,

1351
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 2: Reagan was the outgrowth of the I mean, we're really

1352
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 2: having the same fight that's been in the party since

1353
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 2: the sixties, which is the globalist wing of the party,

1354
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 2: which really dominates the Minnesota GOP hierarchy, and then the citizens.

1355
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 2: You know, this goes back into the It goes the

1356
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 2: way back. You go back to Barry Goldwater if you

1357
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 2: want to, and you know, with him racist, you know,

1358
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:41,800
Speaker 2: so everybody's throwing around even though gold was ahead of

1359
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 2: his time. But that's correct. But you know, it's about

1360
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,679
Speaker 2: the narrative that comes afterward, because whoever controls the history

1361
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:52,679
Speaker 2: controls what young people think about it. But this fight,

1362
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:55,000
Speaker 2: it goes back all the way to the beginning of

1363
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 2: our country. Are we going to have an empire or

1364
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 2: are we going to be a republic? That's really a question.

1365
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 2: And I think the people in Minneapolis. I'm going to

1366
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 2: ask you now what I think the people in Minneapolis

1367
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:12,640
Speaker 2: that you go out to breakfast with and hang out with,

1368
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 2: do you all care about the fire flung empire of

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01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 2: the United States of America?

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01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 3: No? Would you please.

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01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:24,439
Speaker 2: Talk to the Republicans who are listening? Who are because

1372
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 2: I got a lot of these people listening because they

1373
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 2: hate me, and I keep saying, we can't have a

1374
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 2: republican an empire. At the same time, we don't have

1375
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:34,560
Speaker 2: to retreat. We need a strategic redeployment.

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Speaker 4: Well, the reason why I say no is because people

1377
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 4: are struggling. Okay, example, let's take the ukin Russia war,

1378
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 4: and that's take the Israeli Palestinian thing.

1379
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's take that.

1380
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 4: Where I'm from, in my neighborhood where I live at,

1381
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 4: we don't give a damn about either one of them.

1382
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 4: We're struggling on our own. You know, we're trying to eat,

1383
01:16:57,680 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 4: you're trying to take care of our kids. We don't

1384
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:04,680
Speaker 4: care what Zelenskian Poodin talking about. We're mad that the

1385
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:08,600
Speaker 4: American government gave them what sixty billion dollars or.

1386
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 3: Whatever what that numbers bounced around like a ping pong ball.

1387
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 4: You know, we got people and you know, when I

1388
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 4: hear people say, when I talk to them, they're like,

1389
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 4: when we got people here starving, we got people on

1390
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 4: the streets over using on drugs in our corners, and

1391
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 4: they giving three to fifty million dollars in Ukraine. That's

1392
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 4: what That's what my community is talking about. We don't

1393
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 4: give a damn about Israel. And well, when I say

1394
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:32,639
Speaker 4: my community, I'm not talking about black people, black people

1395
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:35,599
Speaker 4: who aren't political pundits, who aren't part of the activist class.

1396
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:40,840
Speaker 4: We don't care about the Israeli hamas beef that's been

1397
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 4: going on since before you can walk on water. That

1398
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 4: ain't got nothing to how I'm gonna pay my lectury

1399
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:47,640
Speaker 4: bill or my water bill, or my rent, or have

1400
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 4: enough food to feed my kids this week, or put

1401
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 4: money in my in my in my tank to drop

1402
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 4: my kids at school, or go al ready to go.

1403
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 4: None of that stuff is relevant to us. We want

1404
01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 4: our lives to improve where we are are right now,

1405
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 4: not three hundred thousand miles three thousand miles away on

1406
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 4: east side of the world. Those things are just that

1407
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 4: we hear on TV. That's just new that hasn't We

1408
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 4: don't care about none of that. We want we want.

1409
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 4: We want our kids to be able to go outside

1410
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 4: without being worried about being shot by some random bully.

1411
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:24,639
Speaker 4: Or we don't want our you know, we don't want

1412
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:27,880
Speaker 4: our mother or ourselves being carjacked at gunpoint. And we

1413
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:31,679
Speaker 4: don't want our cars our windows smashed in every freaking weekend.

1414
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:37,679
Speaker 3: We don't care about learning that. We don't care about

1415
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 3: learning that.

1416
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:43,560
Speaker 2: I can't tell you secret, I don't care either, you know.

1417
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 2: And when I say that, boy, you wouldn't believe. I

1418
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 2: just had a Jewish man excoriate me, who's a friend

1419
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 2: of mine. But I'm an American and I look at

1420
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 2: this and I think about it like empire.

1421
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, you go up.

1422
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:00,560
Speaker 4: You don't get me wrong. I want America. I'm a

1423
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 4: you know, you know, I'm Maga, I'm Mecca forever. Okay, cool,

1424
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 4: I'm cheap America I didn't have. That's great now, don't

1425
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 4: get me wrong. I don't want America's leadership or role

1426
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 4: and you know, being the you know, the dominant force

1427
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 4: in the in the world, because honestly, we need America

1428
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 4: to be that. Okay, But at the same time, it

1429
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 4: seems like those external battles are taking president over the

1430
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 4: problems of Americas, the well being of America, and that's

1431
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 4: the that's that's the issue for me, you know, and

1432
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 4: in my community.

1433
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:38,600
Speaker 2: Well, let me just say this back. You see America's

1434
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 2: importance as a force in the world for good, but

1435
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 2: let's do good. Let's walk the walk. I mean, how

1436
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 2: can we be out there telling other people how to

1437
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 2: live when our own core cities have fallen into squalor

1438
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 2: and exactly right, exactly and the people that live in

1439
01:19:56,160 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 2: those cities know that that is the price that's being

1440
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:05,599
Speaker 2: paid to have this worldwide empire. But it's not the empire,

1441
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 2: it's the wars. I mean, if it was a you know,

1442
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 2: it wouldn't have to be an empire with wars if it.

1443
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:14,599
Speaker 4: Was really wrong with the world empire, I don't really,

1444
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 4: I don't know. That doesn't it's words, you know, whatever

1445
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 4: you want, whatever you want to call it, empire, American influence,

1446
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:26,880
Speaker 4: American business relationships, I don't care what you call it.

1447
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 4: You know, I want America to stay strong. I want

1448
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:33,840
Speaker 4: America to stay dominant. But stop ignoring Americans while you're

1449
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 4: doing it. That's all I care about.

1450
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:39,879
Speaker 2: That's a clip, yep, that's a great that's stop ignoring

1451
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 2: the citizens. And you talked a lot about the the

1452
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 2: value of your citizenship because of the open borders. And

1453
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:48,599
Speaker 2: that's why I call it an empire, because if your

1454
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 2: playground is the world, there's no borders. I mean, if

1455
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 2: you we have military all.

1456
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 4: Over this sounds like some Democrats, socialist comedy and stuff

1457
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 4: that the left was on in Biden's administration. I don't

1458
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 4: think Trump is on that. I mean, he closed the border,

1459
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:11,839
Speaker 4: so and now he's deporting people that he should be deporting.

1460
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 4: And I hope he continues to keep doing that and

1461
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 4: not just focusing on not just focusing on the criminal element.

1462
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:21,720
Speaker 4: And what really bothers me about the immigration topic and

1463
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 4: conversation is they do They say, Oh, he's focusing on

1464
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 4: the criminal element, the most violent blah blah. Okay, fine,

1465
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:32,559
Speaker 4: But then they say, but then there's this other class

1466
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 4: of illegal immigrants that aren't criminals. No, that's not true,

1467
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:38,680
Speaker 4: because when you come into the America, when you come

1468
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:41,639
Speaker 4: to the country legally, you're committing crime right there, right?

1469
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 4: How are you getting a job illegally? How are you

1470
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:48,600
Speaker 4: getting social services? If you ain't got no idea, if

1471
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 4: you ain't got no documentation, how do you there? You're

1472
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:55,920
Speaker 4: committing crimes. So don't tell me that this so called

1473
01:21:56,040 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 4: non violent criminal immigration illegal immigation people aren't you know,

1474
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 4: committing crimes.

1475
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:04,640
Speaker 3: They are. They are.

1476
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 4: How are they getting make accounts? Somebody's giving them IDs?

1477
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 4: And if they got an ID, that's identity theft or

1478
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:18,639
Speaker 4: identity fraud. That's a crime, So don't tell me they're

1479
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 4: not committing crimes. I can't go in with no faking.

1480
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 4: I can't get a job without an ID. I can't

1481
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:29,559
Speaker 4: get a bike account without an ID, but an an

1482
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 4: American citizen. That's why I said, what they are allowing

1483
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 4: these immigrants to do is making us second classiciens because

1484
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 4: they have rights that I'm not even afforded.

1485
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:41,560
Speaker 3: To have myself. How do people feel about that? Do

1486
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 3: they know about it?

1487
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 4: When I describe it or explain it like that, it

1488
01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 4: pisces them off because they don't really think about it

1489
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:49,720
Speaker 4: like that.

1490
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 2: And who at? Who do they get mad at? Is

1491
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 2: the system system? So they're not seeing the difference between

1492
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 2: Democrats and Republicans.

1493
01:22:57,160 --> 01:23:00,840
Speaker 4: It's the sysystem. They don't care. People don't care about

1494
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 4: the Republican like comment people. The people that support me,

1495
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 4: and the reason why they support me is because they

1496
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 4: don't care that I'm a Republican or I'm a conservative.

1497
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 3: They know Laverne Turner.

1498
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 4: They know for twenty years he drove their children around

1499
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 4: all over the metro for basketball tournaments when I coached them,

1500
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:19,800
Speaker 4: and out of my pocket, I fed them out of

1501
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 4: my pocket. They don't ain't being a Republican or not,

1502
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:26,719
Speaker 4: they know Laverne. Okay, same thing goes with other stuff.

1503
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 4: They're so repped, they're so repive in their own lives.

1504
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 4: They're they're like a pox on both their houses to

1505
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:37,679
Speaker 4: Democrat Republicans the same to them, they're just they're they're

1506
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:40,599
Speaker 4: just the powers that be, they're the I'm.

1507
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 3: In the story.

1508
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:43,840
Speaker 2: What does the Republican party need to do to distinguish

1509
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:47,599
Speaker 2: itself so that it is not viewed as a pox

1510
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 2: on both their hosses, not viewed it's the same.

1511
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm being this might be a shameful plug, but

1512
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 4: support somebody like me yet behind me hundred percent a

1513
01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 4: real individual.

1514
01:23:58,400 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 3: Well let me let me just.

1515
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 2: Okay, so everybody that's listening, because there's a lot of

1516
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:05,640
Speaker 2: Republican state that here you and yes, I mean it

1517
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 2: is a don Quixote kind of thing to win in Minneapolis,

1518
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:10,880
Speaker 2: but you you got a beachhead there. How do people

1519
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:14,599
Speaker 2: find your website? What's the handle of what is your

1520
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:16,320
Speaker 2: address for your.

1521
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:22,200
Speaker 4: Webmine website is ww dot turner round like turn around

1522
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 4: turn around Minneapolis.

1523
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:29,160
Speaker 2: You are an e R R t U R N

1524
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:33,760
Speaker 2: E R r r oh you and the Minneapolis the

1525
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:37,639
Speaker 2: whole word written out in pls, m pls turn around,

1526
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:43,120
Speaker 2: mpl as, turner around, m p l as dot com

1527
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:43,720
Speaker 2: dot com.

1528
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:46,639
Speaker 5: And so you'll make it a little easier for everybody. Hey,

1529
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 5: but it'll be down the description. So if you're trying

1530
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 5: to find the website, just look down the description. We'll

1531
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:52,440
Speaker 5: have all the plugs.

1532
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 2: Because we got all these Republicans listening all over the country,

1533
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:58,679
Speaker 2: all over the country, and you know, in your state,

1534
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 2: in my state, we got to get in to see.

1535
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 2: That's why I invited you here, because I'm dedicated to this.

1536
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 3: I realize.

1537
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:07,519
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm losing money doing it. I'm not grifting it.

1538
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 2: I mean people call me a grif. Sean called me

1539
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:11,840
Speaker 2: a grifter that I get it all the time. I mean,

1540
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:13,920
Speaker 2: and you know we're going in the whole one to

1541
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:16,600
Speaker 2: do I mean, it's it's a loser. We're doing it

1542
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:18,479
Speaker 2: because we love the people, we love the state.

1543
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:21,000
Speaker 3: I'm a grifter. That has been for twenty years.

1544
01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 4: It has been called la Coon, a sellout, a Republican

1545
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 4: kiss ass. Yeah, I'm a grift. Yeah, I'm really grifting.

1546
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:33,280
Speaker 4: That's what am I getting out of this? What am

1547
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:34,840
Speaker 4: I getting on there? But doing what's right.

1548
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:36,120
Speaker 3: Salvation possible, but.

1549
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 4: Doing what's right right and being a good example to

1550
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:42,560
Speaker 4: my three sons, who I hope will live in a

1551
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:45,479
Speaker 4: better Minneapolis than the one they've grown up in. Okay,

1552
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 4: my sons grew up in the era of Minneapolis where

1553
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 4: I could not send my sons outside and feel safe

1554
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:54,280
Speaker 4: than anything, just in the yard if they would feel selfish,

1555
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:56,479
Speaker 4: they could play outside. I couldn't my kids ride the

1556
01:25:56,520 --> 01:25:59,679
Speaker 4: bike in the neighborhood because you know, people people ignore

1557
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 4: traffic laws and rules and regulations. There's nothing safe about

1558
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:11,160
Speaker 4: Minneapolis right now. If you're walking down the street, being

1559
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 4: a pedestrian in Minneapolis is a death sport right now.

1560
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:18,000
Speaker 4: People are they're not listen. They're our body about traffic

1561
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:21,599
Speaker 4: laws or regulations. There's no law enforcement on the street.

1562
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:27,320
Speaker 4: There's no repercussions or consequences of anything. I mean, it's

1563
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:29,120
Speaker 4: like the it's like the old what do you call it,

1564
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 4: the Old West? Right now, while it's the cops if

1565
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:38,559
Speaker 4: they I've been driving down the street and I've seen

1566
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 4: someone run a red light and the cop is right

1567
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:44,639
Speaker 4: behind that person running the red light, and the cop

1568
01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 4: let them go. Didn't even stop, just ignored it because

1569
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 4: they don't want the hassle of another George Floyd. So

1570
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 4: people feel like they can do whatever they want because

1571
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:58,600
Speaker 4: there's no the terrence, there's no consequence.

1572
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:02,280
Speaker 2: What are they expressing, the people that are acting this way,

1573
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:06,639
Speaker 2: what are they psychologically expressing breaking all these rules?

1574
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:11,000
Speaker 3: Are they? They can just do it? Who's gonna stop me?

1575
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:12,960
Speaker 3: What's gonna happen?

1576
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:17,000
Speaker 4: They're feel embolded because of the last six years of

1577
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:19,080
Speaker 4: you know, law enforcement getting a bad rap.

1578
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 3: They're the bad guy, so if they break the law,

1579
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 3: they're a good guy. Okay.

1580
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:30,800
Speaker 4: You know, there's no consequence, there's no deterrence, and when

1581
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:34,720
Speaker 4: I become mayor, there will be the terrence. I'm gonna

1582
01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 4: be tough on crime, I mean super tough on crime,

1583
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:39,040
Speaker 4: and when people ask me, he will turn What do

1584
01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:40,800
Speaker 4: you mean by being tough on crime? And what I

1585
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:44,759
Speaker 4: say the people is fuck around and find out. Okay,

1586
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:48,160
Speaker 4: and not just the criminal element. I'm talking about city

1587
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:53,040
Speaker 4: attorneys gonna be County Attorney's office judges. If you're not

1588
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:57,080
Speaker 4: giving people proper centitions for the crimes they commit, I'm

1589
01:27:57,080 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 4: gonna do whatever I can from the bully pup pit

1590
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:04,240
Speaker 4: to recalls, fun and recalls. People are gonna do their

1591
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:06,599
Speaker 4: jobs and they're gonna protect the citism of Minneapolis under

1592
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 4: my watch. I'm not allowing none of this social justice

1593
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:13,680
Speaker 4: stuff or uh, none of this is gonna fly. If

1594
01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 4: you're not protecting my citizens and you're in you're in

1595
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:20,680
Speaker 4: a position of power, especially in the the law or

1596
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 4: judicial area of it. The prosecution, we will with odds,

1597
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:27,840
Speaker 4: we will be I will take you to the Supreme

1598
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 4: Court if I have to, because you're not doing your job.

1599
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:32,880
Speaker 4: You're not protecting the decisions of Minneapolis.

1600
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:38,360
Speaker 2: Is that the fundamental building block of restoring Minneapolis is

1601
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:41,599
Speaker 2: restoring some higher level of order.

1602
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:44,760
Speaker 3: Yes, that's the start. Order is gone. There is no

1603
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:45,680
Speaker 3: there is no order.

1604
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 2: And when when do you what I mean timeline for that?

1605
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 2: How long has that been or has it always been

1606
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:54,840
Speaker 2: this way for It's been getting there slowly. It's been

1607
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:57,720
Speaker 2: a slow drip over the last sixteen years. But after

1608
01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 2: the riots in COVID, it's just within the hypermode, out

1609
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 2: of control, totally control.

1610
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:08,639
Speaker 5: I feel like after the riots, a lot of inner

1611
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:12,400
Speaker 5: city folk they realize that the police force is not

1612
01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 5: as powerful as they thought they were, at least with

1613
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:17,519
Speaker 5: like smashing windows. That's what I noticed because around the

1614
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 5: riots that got really popular. And now my child's mother,

1615
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:24,040
Speaker 5: she lives close to North Minneapolis and within one year

1616
01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 5: she had her windows smashed three different times.

1617
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 4: Let me just say this, the whole North side of

1618
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 4: Minneapolis any given shift has four police officers on duty.

1619
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:44,720
Speaker 3: Yikes, four four. That's hilarious. It's not.

1620
01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:48,160
Speaker 2: And then then that it's not protector service, clean up

1621
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:49,280
Speaker 2: containing clean up.

1622
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 3: It ain't even that, not even that. Not show up.

1623
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:57,960
Speaker 4: Don't even show up. Over South at the doorge Floor Square,

1624
01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:02,360
Speaker 4: the business is there. There's been a police no go

1625
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:08,360
Speaker 4: zone since the riots. They're ordering the city is ordering

1626
01:30:08,439 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 4: cops not to even go to George Floyd Square. The

1627
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:16,640
Speaker 4: businesses there are suffering because there's so much crime. No

1628
01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:19,880
Speaker 4: one wants to go there and patron and spend money

1629
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:21,760
Speaker 4: at their businesses. Nobody wants to be in the neighborhood.

1630
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:26,400
Speaker 4: And how does the city tell its police officers not

1631
01:30:26,479 --> 01:30:30,599
Speaker 4: to respond to crime. You don't go there, you can't

1632
01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:32,960
Speaker 4: go there. What kind of policing?

1633
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:35,560
Speaker 3: What is that? Well, I don't know what it is.

1634
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:39,640
Speaker 3: What is that? I don't know what it is. I

1635
01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:40,640
Speaker 3: don't know what it is.

1636
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:44,040
Speaker 2: You don't know where these people are coming from. Well,

1637
01:30:44,439 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 2: if the city is not protecting its citizens, it's not

1638
01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:49,000
Speaker 2: a city.

1639
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:51,320
Speaker 3: It's not a city. It's become something else. What do

1640
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:53,640
Speaker 3: you call it? The wild West? That's all it is.

1641
01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:54,880
Speaker 3: Vigil anthe justice.

1642
01:30:55,479 --> 01:30:57,320
Speaker 4: That's why you have some man of these little shootings

1643
01:30:57,360 --> 01:31:02,000
Speaker 4: going on, because there's no one out here to arrest anybody,

1644
01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:08,960
Speaker 4: investigate anybody. So if someone is shot, that vigilanti wild

1645
01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:11,000
Speaker 4: West justice is gonnappen because the're gonna get justice and

1646
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:15,559
Speaker 4: shoot somebody else that caused that. It's just going around

1647
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:18,320
Speaker 4: and there's no need to do it because there's no deterrence.

1648
01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:23,680
Speaker 4: They canna have these these gang shootouts in wars and

1649
01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:26,240
Speaker 4: not fear of getting caught because there's no deterrence.

1650
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:30,680
Speaker 2: It's the ability, kid and wide urb and whoever, just

1651
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:33,200
Speaker 2: all all the regular citizens that are there, and we're

1652
01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:34,920
Speaker 2: just we're what do.

1653
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:37,519
Speaker 3: They call it, being held hostage under all this crap.

1654
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 2: And then the Republican Party doesn't even show up, don't

1655
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:45,320
Speaker 2: even care to help to put some so you know,

1656
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:49,799
Speaker 2: if you're a Republican Party officer any place in the country,

1657
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:54,720
Speaker 2: Republican an American citizen, a Democrat, you know, we got

1658
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:57,840
Speaker 2: a beachhead here in Minneapolis. Let's bauster it. Let's give

1659
01:31:57,880 --> 01:32:01,960
Speaker 2: it some support. And you know, we just met for

1660
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 2: the first time. I had a really good time meeting you.

1661
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:09,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I think you're eloquent and your insights are gritty.

1662
01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:11,439
Speaker 3: And I like it. I mean, I mean, I just

1663
01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:15,439
Speaker 3: want people to know that's new. What what.

1664
01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:19,599
Speaker 4: Most people don't like my style, don't like my delivery.

1665
01:32:19,640 --> 01:32:21,720
Speaker 4: They say I'm too wrong, I'm too hard, I'm too

1666
01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:23,559
Speaker 4: rough around the edges.

1667
01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:26,760
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just I'm just me. I'm just real.

1668
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:29,800
Speaker 5: I can see why people complimented you on Oh, you

1669
01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:32,920
Speaker 5: just feel like a real person. I I also respect

1670
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 5: it appreciation. Well, we want real people in politicis I do?

1671
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:38,360
Speaker 5: And I don't want to say we because not everybody does.

1672
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:42,360
Speaker 2: But I do. And I'll tell you why because I'm

1673
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:46,320
Speaker 2: I've watched this for many decades, and I've seen all

1674
01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:51,280
Speaker 2: these white start start shirt wearing blue suit wearing lapel

1675
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:56,080
Speaker 2: pin wearing college graduates, married their high school sweethearts, got three.

1676
01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:57,080
Speaker 3: Kids, serve the military.

1677
01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:00,360
Speaker 2: They're perfect on paper, and they get give us this

1678
01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:03,439
Speaker 2: mess R And so you know, there's an old thing

1679
01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:08,000
Speaker 2: you can't let the inmates run the asylum, unless the

1680
01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:09,960
Speaker 2: doctors are mass murdering cats.

1681
01:33:10,439 --> 01:33:10,880
Speaker 3: Then at that.

1682
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:13,840
Speaker 2: Point we have to take a shot. We gotta shoot

1683
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:15,920
Speaker 2: our best shot. And that's where I'm coming from. I mean,

1684
01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:19,280
Speaker 2: I would like our elites that are educated at Harvard

1685
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:23,080
Speaker 2: and served in the military to serve our communities and

1686
01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:25,880
Speaker 2: make for a safe country and for a prosperous country,

1687
01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:28,640
Speaker 2: and for a well being citizenship. You know, I know

1688
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 2: how bad the health is in the community. I know

1689
01:33:31,160 --> 01:33:34,679
Speaker 2: it's terrible. I mean, these are the people that brought

1690
01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:37,760
Speaker 2: us the food pyramid and all the sugary drinks and

1691
01:33:38,320 --> 01:33:42,200
Speaker 2: all the things that put people. The diabetes level of

1692
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:47,000
Speaker 2: the young black children that are on programs, the juvenile

1693
01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:51,320
Speaker 2: diabetes level is crazy. You know, if the government programs

1694
01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:54,200
Speaker 2: were so good, I mean, the government loves us so much,

1695
01:33:54,240 --> 01:33:55,840
Speaker 2: why are old the kids so sick? Why are they

1696
01:33:55,880 --> 01:33:58,160
Speaker 2: sold bees? You know you got a heart attack at

1697
01:33:58,200 --> 01:33:59,160
Speaker 2: forty six years old?

1698
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:04,920
Speaker 3: Why that happened? You know? Okay? At school? Oh and

1699
01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:07,200
Speaker 3: I was an athlete, you know, you know I was,

1700
01:34:07,439 --> 01:34:08,920
Speaker 3: you know, I played. You know, I didn't have I

1701
01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:09,880
Speaker 3: didn't for me.

1702
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:13,840
Speaker 4: I think after I settled down and had kids in

1703
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:16,600
Speaker 4: my life slowed down and sup plus, I was a

1704
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:19,360
Speaker 4: primary character to my children, so I was always you know,

1705
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:23,760
Speaker 4: a gain. And I think the stress level of trying

1706
01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:27,280
Speaker 4: to run my nonprofit being blacklisted by all the government

1707
01:34:27,439 --> 01:34:30,000
Speaker 4: entities that wouldn't fund me because I was not in

1708
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:32,400
Speaker 4: a political circle and I was in a known Republican

1709
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:34,680
Speaker 4: they wouldn't give me no money. So I guess just

1710
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:38,400
Speaker 4: you know, the stress blah blah blah. You know, I

1711
01:34:38,479 --> 01:34:41,200
Speaker 4: think that was my issue, but they're but you're right, though,

1712
01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:44,960
Speaker 4: there's a lot of the obesity rate for you know,

1713
01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:49,120
Speaker 4: the poor kids is because oh I ne're getting ready

1714
01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:54,599
Speaker 4: in But that's that's a problem that stems from single

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Speaker 4: parent households, right, and the single mom thing. Because a

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Speaker 4: lot of this is a lot of young girls who

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01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:07,559
Speaker 4: grow up in the system when you know, when their

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01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:11,719
Speaker 4: mom has you know, four or five kids, three baby

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01:35:11,800 --> 01:35:16,519
Speaker 4: daddies and their own food stamps of welfare. Young girls

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01:35:17,479 --> 01:35:19,960
Speaker 4: when they're at the age where they can make babies,

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01:35:21,080 --> 01:35:24,640
Speaker 4: they see that as an opportunity to venture on their

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Speaker 4: own and have their own house and be on their

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Speaker 4: own being an adults. And you know, so they're having

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Speaker 4: kids at fifteen sixteen seventeen and they're not ready to

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Speaker 4: be parents. So so when their kids get older, their

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01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:47,240
Speaker 4: kids are their friends instead of their child. And the

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Speaker 4: responsibility and their responsibility acting like a parent. Okay, so

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Speaker 4: instead of providing home cooked meals, they get stamps and

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Speaker 4: they buy junk food so they don't have to cook

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Speaker 4: a meal.

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Speaker 3: They don't have to know.

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Speaker 4: They're not used to having a balanced diet with protein, carbs, dairy.

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Speaker 4: That wasn't their experience growing up. They weren't taught, So

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01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:15,920
Speaker 4: how can they teach that to their children?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: And the most profitable business in this country is a

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Speaker 2: chronically ill child. Yes, so back to the business thing.

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Speaker 2: So the government. You know, if our government was doing

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Speaker 2: such a good job, if you're on a government program,

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01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:30,240
Speaker 2: you'd be healthy as a horse.

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Speaker 4: If if the government programs were doing their job, we

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01:36:36,479 --> 01:36:37,919
Speaker 4: wouldn't need government programs.

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Speaker 2: That's a great place to stay in our first conversation.

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01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:45,799
Speaker 2: If the government programs are doing their jobs, we wouldn't

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01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:53,479
Speaker 2: need government programs. That's beautiful. Independence, self governance, freedom, freedom.

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Speaker 2: Lavernia was very nice to meet you. Thank you for

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01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:57,679
Speaker 2: coming in. I hope we do it again.

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01:36:58,240 --> 01:37:00,320
Speaker 3: Well, thanks for having me. I love the coming in again.

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Speaker 2: We're going to have you back, and I hope everybody

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Speaker 2: that's listening take a look in the link. Are we

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Speaker 2: looking that where you're gonna put that now for everybody.

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Speaker 5: Down the description. Just looking in the description, guys, and

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Speaker 5: there will be the links for everything and you'll need

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Speaker 5: to find.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Tanner, Tanner, thanks for coming in this morning. Everybody. Uh,

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Speaker 2: we wish you well, have a great weekend. Looking forward

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Speaker 2: to seeing you next week.

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