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<v Speaker 1>in the chat Okay, what was we suspected all along?

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Stefanski said he was going to name a starter

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<v Speaker 1>today and he did, and just like Ocho and I

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<v Speaker 1>surmise it's Joe Flacco. The forty old were making his

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<v Speaker 1>first Week one start since twenty twenty two when he's

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<v Speaker 1>with the Jets TBD. On the rest of the depth chart,

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<v Speaker 1>Kenny Pickett has not played since he tweaked that hamstring.

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<v Speaker 1>Dylan Gabriel got the start on Saturday. Shador did not

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<v Speaker 1>play because of a knee oblique injury. He started the

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<v Speaker 1>first regularly Precs and Tyler Snoop Huntley is also on

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<v Speaker 1>the list. Adam Shefter said this morning, I expect the

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<v Speaker 1>Cleveland Browns to carry four quarterbacks on the fifty three

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<v Speaker 1>man roster. Wow, that's that doesn't normally happen. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're afraid that if they let one of

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<v Speaker 1>these guys go, somebody's gonna snatch them up. You'd probably

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<v Speaker 1>like to probably you know, cut them and then have

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<v Speaker 1>them come back on the practice squad, but they.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't feel they can do that.

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<v Speaker 1>They feel that if they were to release Gabriel, excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>release Dylan Gabriel or Shador Sanders, somebody would sign them

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<v Speaker 1>to their active roster.

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<v Speaker 2>And you don't want to run that risk.

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<v Speaker 1>Guy that's been in your program for the better part

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<v Speaker 1>of six months little up April, since April, since the draft,

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<v Speaker 1>So you don't want to run that risk.

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<v Speaker 2>Excuse me, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't think any of us are surprised that

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Flacco got named the starter.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't play, but Stefanski did.

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<v Speaker 1>The head coach, Kevin Stefanski did say they're gonna treat

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<v Speaker 1>this as a dress rehearsal of what they might do

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<v Speaker 1>in Week one. So Joe Flacco is going to get

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<v Speaker 1>the start for the final preseason game and we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>how that works out.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't think we're surprised.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think any of your surprised that Joe Flacco

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<v Speaker 1>was named the starter.

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<v Speaker 2>You look at Kenny Pickett. He has not been able

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<v Speaker 2>to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything any team drills since he tweaked that champ string

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<v Speaker 1>early early in training camp. Obviously, Dylan Gabriel was nick

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<v Speaker 1>the first, you know, for about ten eleven days.

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<v Speaker 2>Then he came back.

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<v Speaker 1>Shadure played really well the first game, then he got

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<v Speaker 1>an oblique injury. He was out, and then Dylan Gabriel

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<v Speaker 1>took it over, and then he played played fairly well.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he had a pick, but I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>either God did anything since I mean, look, you are

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<v Speaker 1>where you are. I mean, some people say, well, Dylan

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<v Speaker 1>Gabriel has played better. I haven't heard anybody say that,

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<v Speaker 1>but some people like Dylan Gabriel and think what he

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<v Speaker 1>brings to the table. I was listening to somebody to

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<v Speaker 1>day say Dylan Gabriel, though has a stronger arm, throws

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<v Speaker 1>were better anticipation. I don't know if I necessarily agree

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<v Speaker 1>with that or believe that it's gonna be a very

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<v Speaker 1>tough decision, but in order for them to carry for quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 1>that means they're not really sure and they don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to make the mistake. Nobody wants to make the mistake

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<v Speaker 1>and get up, get off one of these quarterbacks, have

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<v Speaker 1>him go somewhere else and play really, really well when

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<v Speaker 1>we had him in our fold. So that's what I

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<v Speaker 1>deduce from that. Cleveland put themselves in a buying by,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, signing Joe Flacco to a one year I

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<v Speaker 1>think they traded for Kenny Pickett and then selecting two

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks one and the third one in the fifth And

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<v Speaker 1>you find yourself in a situation because none of these

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks really have separated themselves from the rest of the guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Pickett didn't really get a chance to separate himself because

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<v Speaker 1>he's been injured for the better part of training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I don't know does he start I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think he started on pup. How he progressing?

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<v Speaker 2>Ash?

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<v Speaker 1>Do we know anything about how he's progressing resting to

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<v Speaker 1>see I don't think you put him on pup. Because

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<v Speaker 1>you put him on pupp he's gonna put him down

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<v Speaker 1>for six weeks. I don't think it's gonna take that

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<v Speaker 1>much length of time. He'd be out almost three months

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<v Speaker 1>with a hamstring injury.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, So we're coming up on a month.

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<v Speaker 1>Funny that you say that, because Justin Jefferson just returned

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<v Speaker 1>to practice and he was out for twenty five days.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna talk about that in a little bit. But

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<v Speaker 1>these hamstrings are very, very tricky. You want to air

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<v Speaker 1>on the side of caution. The last thing you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do is miss that amount of time, come back

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<v Speaker 1>and tweak it again, because you're probably gonna double the

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<v Speaker 1>amount of time that you're gonna miss moving forward. So,

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<v Speaker 1>Cleveland Brown's name Joe Flacco as their starting quarterback. They

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<v Speaker 1>did not give a depth chart after Joe Flacco. Normally

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<v Speaker 1>it was Kenny Pickett two, Dylan gabral three, and Shudur

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<v Speaker 1>Sanders four. But I guess that's in the In the

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<v Speaker 1>next couple of days, we'll find out. We'll see how

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<v Speaker 1>healthy Shudur is is. That oblique healed well enough for

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<v Speaker 1>him to get some action in game in the final

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<v Speaker 1>preseason game.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>But Joe Flacco name started for the Cleveland Browns to

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<v Speaker 1>start the twenty twenty five season. Titans quarterback cam Ward

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<v Speaker 1>got into a scuffle with DT Jeffrey Simmons and camp.

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<v Speaker 1>Cam Ward and defensive Linean Jeffery Simmons got into a

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<v Speaker 1>scuffle on Monday. War threw a touchdown pass to Calvin

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<v Speaker 1>Ridley towards the end of practice and went over to celebrate.

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<v Speaker 1>The rookie quarterback stop gave Simmons a shove before doing

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<v Speaker 1>the trademark Zombie Land celebration in front of him. Simmons

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<v Speaker 1>reacted with a two hand shove towards face mask. The

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<v Speaker 1>offensive lineman came running to help towards defense. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we kind of had a conversation. We kind of had

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<v Speaker 1>a conversation about this a couple of days ago. I

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<v Speaker 1>wish o Cho's a connection would get fixed, because this

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<v Speaker 1>is what I want. I wanted to ask him. I

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<v Speaker 1>think both guys need to be smarter in a situation

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<v Speaker 1>like this. That's your starting quarterback. You're only gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>as far as he takes your difference. Uh So, you look,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to do anything to hurt that guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the number one overall draft pick and all your

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<v Speaker 1>hopes and aspirations are pinned on his shoulder. Now, Cam,

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<v Speaker 1>that's your teammate, you know, I mean, come on and

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<v Speaker 1>been along dad practice. They said this happened towards the

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<v Speaker 1>end of practice and anytime like that. You know, guys

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<v Speaker 1>are frustrated. I didn't want to I didn't want you

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<v Speaker 1>to score, but yeah, you stopping my stopping celebrating my face.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet I'm not feeling too I'm not feeling too well.

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<v Speaker 1>That that might be the direction that you get. But

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<v Speaker 1>normally teammates, I couldn't imagine, to be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 1>have John celebrated, Yeah, absolutely, But I couldn't imagine an

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<v Speaker 1>offensive lineman, I mean, excuse me, a defensive lineman doing

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<v Speaker 1>something like that to seven. I don't remember being on

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<v Speaker 1>a team where a defensive player would do that to

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback, understanding how important the quarterback is to the

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<v Speaker 1>team's success, especially the starting quarterback. Maybe the second or

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<v Speaker 1>third team something like that, but the starting quarterback, Nah,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't. I can honestly say, in my fourteen years,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never been in a situation where I've seen something

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<v Speaker 1>quite like what's being reported coming out of Tennessee where

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback throws a touchdown pass late in the ball game,

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<v Speaker 1>he shoves Jeffery Simmons. I don't know why he shoved

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffery Simmons, but if you shove one guy you should

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<v Speaker 1>probably expect to shove back. I'm just surprised that he

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<v Speaker 1>shoved Simmons to begin with. Maybe I shouldn't be as

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<v Speaker 1>surprised that Simmons shoved him back, because at that point

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<v Speaker 1>in time, I'm not looking at you as a quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at somebody that shoved me, and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>shove you back. Shop glad he'd know nobody got injured.

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<v Speaker 1>The offensive lineman did what they were supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Run to cam Ward's defense. That's what's supposed to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody attacks your quarterback, you come hell of high water.

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<v Speaker 1>You defend that guy. Right, wrong or indifferent, You defend

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<v Speaker 1>your quarterback. We'll address it and we'll figure it out later. Hey, man,

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<v Speaker 1>don't do that day. You're too valuable. Don't get into

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<v Speaker 1>you know, no shoving matches. Don't say anything to those guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Let them do all that talking. We don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>worry about that. But I haven't. I can honestly say

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't. I've never seen a situation in my years

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<v Speaker 1>of being around football. When I was at Denver, when

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<v Speaker 1>I was at Baltimore, when I went back to Denver,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember that happened in the high school. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember it happened in college. Not to say that

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<v Speaker 1>it haven't happened. I haven't been around, and I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>seen every situation that arises on a practice field or

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<v Speaker 1>in a locker room. But I like to speak to

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<v Speaker 1>the things that I've seen, and I can speak clearly

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<v Speaker 1>and intelligent on it. But this must have been something

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<v Speaker 1>that was brewing for a significant time and emotions ran high,

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess cam Ward shoves Jeffery Simmons. Jeffery Simmons like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know who you think you are. I understand

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<v Speaker 1>you to starting quarterback. You're the first overall pick. But

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm going to throw that out the wind and

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<v Speaker 1>shove you in the face. So hopefully nobody got injured,

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<v Speaker 1>glad no punches. Hopefully no punches were thrown. Nobody damaged

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<v Speaker 1>the hand of a rest or, a fist or any

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<v Speaker 1>of that finger, anything like that, and they're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>good to go for the final preseason game Friday, Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>or whenever these guys play and then have. Hopefully everybody

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<v Speaker 1>goes into the season healthy and with no lingering injuries.

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<v Speaker 2>But who, I guess. We live in a different a

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<v Speaker 2>different time now.

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Johnson recalls not letting the Cowboys eat on a

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<v Speaker 1>plane after loss on the next in this Netflix show.

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<v Speaker 1>The former Dallas Cowboy head coach revealed during a clip

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<v Speaker 1>in next Netflix America's team The Gambler and His Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>that he once prevented the team from eating on a

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<v Speaker 1>eating a meal on a flight home following a loss.

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<v Speaker 1>After that loss, we got on the plane. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>fuming because the way we played. So the flight of

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<v Speaker 1>tenant start to serve and I say, no, no meal.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't deserve to eat. I wanted to be Nazi.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be nauseated, to be sick to this

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<v Speaker 1>stubmach when they lose, because that's how I felt. Is

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<v Speaker 1>this what's been missing from the Cowboys today? A leader

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<v Speaker 1>that wants to so badly that he'll take your food away.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not uncommon. Dan reeves that happened to us. We

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<v Speaker 1>lost the ball game and he took lunch away, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't paying for y'all to eat. Y'all hungry, y'all

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<v Speaker 1>go get your own damn food. So it's never happened

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<v Speaker 1>on a plane. And man, you got to realize, like

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<v Speaker 1>when you go to get on that plane, because you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't probably eaten since pregame and according to when the

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<v Speaker 1>game was so you know you played the early you

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<v Speaker 1>played the early game. You played at one o'clock East

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<v Speaker 1>Coach time, and you get on a plane to fly

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<v Speaker 1>back home. You haven't eaten probably since ten o'clock, ten

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<v Speaker 1>point thirty at the Absolute Ladies for a one o'clock game.

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<v Speaker 1>And then by the time you get on, by the

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<v Speaker 1>time you get because they give you an hour after

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<v Speaker 1>the game, you got an hour to basically get from

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<v Speaker 1>the field to the locker room, get showered, do your interviews,

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<v Speaker 1>get to the bus bus, get to the airport, go

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<v Speaker 1>on the tarmac, you get off. Normally that takes about

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<v Speaker 1>a hour, about sixty seventy minutes, So think about how

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<v Speaker 1>long that's being.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you're on a plane.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I don't know where, doubt where they were coming

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<v Speaker 1>back from to get the Dallas. Let's just say it's

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<v Speaker 1>New York and you haven't eaten till ten since ten

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<v Speaker 1>that's a long time. And now you understand why the

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<v Speaker 1>cowboys were how they were. Jimmy trim the fat. There

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<v Speaker 1>was no excess fat in the with the Dallas Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>when Jimmy played. And you see, now, if a coach

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<v Speaker 1>probably tried to do that now Jerry said, Noah, let

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<v Speaker 1>him eat and then guess what team's gonna eat. But

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<v Speaker 1>that bat whoo, that's the old school coaching. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know if that'll fly now. Chat y'all

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<v Speaker 1>think that would fly now. I don't think that was

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<v Speaker 1>fly now, man. I think the players would lose their

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<v Speaker 1>damn minds if a coach said, naw, we're not finna eat.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody's gonna eat on the plane home. Sh That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>old school coaching. That's that's the way they did it

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<v Speaker 1>in the problem in the seventies, eighties, and nineties. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, not on the playing, but lunch it happened,

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<v Speaker 1>and you made sure if you lost the game, you

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<v Speaker 1>gave better effort. Because I think the thing is what

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy said. I wouldn't happy with the Yeah, we lost it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ticked off that we lost the game, but I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like the effort that we gave in losing the game, because.

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<v Speaker 2>You know you're not gonna win every game.

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<v Speaker 1>But sometimes the effort you saw yesterday, the Bills lost

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<v Speaker 1>what thirty eight nothing, and you see McDermott had a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>He was upset with them. So it's tough. It's tough.

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<v Speaker 1>There's an expectation that when you play, especially when you

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<v Speaker 1>got the Cowboys. You're talking about EMMT, You're talking about Troy,

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<v Speaker 1>You're talking about Michael Irvin and Charles Haley.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they were all those Hall of famers.

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<v Speaker 1>There's an expectation that when you take that field, you

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<v Speaker 1>can win this game. And even if you don't win,

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<v Speaker 1>how you play is as important. And Jimmy clearly clearly,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is Jimmy Johnson. Like I said, there is

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<v Speaker 1>no excess fat. Jimmy Johnson is your head coach. Be

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<v Speaker 1>at Oklahoma State, be at Miami, be at a Dallas, Miami. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta get it, you gotta get it. Jimmy Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get it at you. Whatever you got in, Jimmy's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get it at you. So I'm not surprised that

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<v Speaker 1>he said this. I'm not surprised because you know, talking

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<v Speaker 1>to some of the guys, they they they's like, hey, Jimmy, Jimmy,

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<v Speaker 1>crack the whip. Jimmy was not a guy Jimmy did

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<v Speaker 1>not be s Jimmy was hardcore. You know what to

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<v Speaker 1>expect that a lot of guy look as long as

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<v Speaker 1>I know what to expect, I'm cool. You go to

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably a little different if you never had a

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<v Speaker 1>coach like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's all Emmitt knew.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a lot what a lot of these guys knew,

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<v Speaker 1>So it probably wasn't a big thing. It would probably

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<v Speaker 1>be different if you've been somewhere else and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>not even close to that for six seven years, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you come to that. Like I said, it's always

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<v Speaker 1>easier to be tough and lighting up as opposed the

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<v Speaker 1>light and then try to tough en up because guys

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<v Speaker 1>look at you a certain way. Having Dan Reason as

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<v Speaker 1>my coach, an old school guy that learned cut his

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<v Speaker 1>teeth under Tom Landry, practices were hard, Training camp was hard.

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<v Speaker 1>So I know anyone that I got after Coach Reids

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna be a piece of cake. Ain't no way

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<v Speaker 1>training camp and practices and could be any more difficult

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<v Speaker 1>than what I had already had gone through for three years.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not surprised by that. I'm gonna make sure

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<v Speaker 1>I watch this because I want to see. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you've heard a little bit of the stories, but to

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<v Speaker 1>hear Emmitt and hear you know, obviously talking to Emmitt

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<v Speaker 1>and we came out together in nineteen not in the

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<v Speaker 1>play Maker and our good friends, but to hear Jimmy

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<v Speaker 1>from his own mouth, to hear Troy and hear some

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<v Speaker 1>of the other guys talk about it. Coach Prime is

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<v Speaker 1>in it. To hear some of these guys talk about it,

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be. I think it's gonna be very, very good.

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<v Speaker 1>And it explains to you why the Cowboys had the

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<v Speaker 1>success that they had in the early nineties, especially under Jimmy.

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<v Speaker 1>They had had a down year in ninety four, they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have a down year that went to the NFC

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<v Speaker 1>Championship Game, and then they bounced back in ninety five

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<v Speaker 1>when they get Coach Gift time to come home from

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco. They win the Super Bowl in ninety five,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's kind of been hadn't been back to a

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<v Speaker 1>championship game since they went to the Super Bowl and

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<v Speaker 1>won it ninety five season ninety six, So we're approaching

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<v Speaker 1>thirty years in which the Cowboys have not went gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever terminology you want to use to an NFC championship game.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>When you talk about America's team, and when you talk

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<v Speaker 1>about some of the better players that they've assembled on

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<v Speaker 1>that team, you look at the All pros, you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the Pro Bowl players that they consistently have year

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<v Speaker 1>in and year out, there's no excuse for why the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys haven't gone to an NFC championship game, at least

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<v Speaker 1>multiple considering some of the teams that have gone into

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<v Speaker 1>an NFC championship game. So I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are Cowboy fans or Cowboys haters. Want to

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<v Speaker 1>see why the Cowboys were so successful in the early nineties,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think watching this will give you a glimpse

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<v Speaker 1>into why how he practiced, how they met. Hopefully they

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<v Speaker 1>tell the story about the guy that Jimmy I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they are going to tell the story about

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy cut a guy that fell asleep in the meeting,

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<v Speaker 1>and well, he cut one guy because he fumbled the

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<v Speaker 1>football last game of the season. They so they cut him,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they cut another guy they cut because he

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<v Speaker 1>fell asleep in the meeting, and a reporter asked him

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<v Speaker 1>to ask him if that was Troy that had fallen

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<v Speaker 1>asleep in the meeting when he cut him, he said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>how to woke him up? Just goes to show you

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<v Speaker 1>treat everybody fair. But if you don't treat everybody the same,

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<v Speaker 1>that's Jimmy. Coach Prime sets his punishment for any player

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<v Speaker 1>that hits the quarterback. For the players who violate the rule,

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<v Speaker 1>consequences range from up down, stadium runs, etc. This is

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<v Speaker 1>definitely an old school way of disciplined players. But do

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<v Speaker 1>you think this style of punishment can work in the

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<v Speaker 1>nil era where guys may transfer from one updown wo Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if this style of punishment worked because

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<v Speaker 1>I think some guys are already looking. You can't even

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<v Speaker 1>really coach a kid. Now you're coach a kid hard.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll jump into transfer portal. Somebody offer him fifty dollars

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<v Speaker 1>more than what you're paying him, and you ticked him

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<v Speaker 1>off of he didn't get as many reps as he thought,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't get as many targets as he thought, he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't play as many plays as he thought.

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<v Speaker 2>They jump into portal. Now, this is this is real business.

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<v Speaker 1>This is like like a real job, Like I'm on

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<v Speaker 1>a job and I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like my boss. I quit and go find

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<v Speaker 1>me another job. Leave you high and dry. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's just the era that we're living living in.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what coach Prime is, He's trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>his point across. The last thing that you want to

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<v Speaker 1>do is hurt is have your players hurt one another.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad to see a technical technical difficulty. Guy is jodious?

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<v Speaker 2>You got us? Yoke?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, boy, I'm sick of the motherfucker.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't you get me? Yeah? I got you? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, about about I buy them boys and that.

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<v Speaker 2>But y'all defense steel some trash.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait a minute, Wait a minute, now, let's let's let's

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<v Speaker 4>let's not do that. Let's not do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 5>We look we look very bad on the first two

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<v Speaker 5>drive that the commanders had the ball they took they

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<v Speaker 5>started out, but we looked better, we looked better from

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<v Speaker 5>that point on.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's be optimistic. Let's be optimistic about the situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe, did you see how did you see how they

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<v Speaker 2>ran down the field? O? Yo?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Like I can tell you who blew the assignment.

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<v Speaker 6>I can tell you who the simon, who the mic

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<v Speaker 6>backer straight over the top underneath you knowing you can't

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<v Speaker 6>get the underneath and all.

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<v Speaker 2>That to shoot the gap, to pull the ray Lewis older.

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<v Speaker 7>What are we doing?

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<v Speaker 2>What are we doing? And they did it twice, hit

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<v Speaker 2>it twice.

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<v Speaker 4>And the guy bounced right outside and he gone.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a conversation last night.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, Oho, I want to see their backs and

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<v Speaker 1>it'll give us a better understanding why Brian Robinson Jr.

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<v Speaker 1>Is on the trade block. Well, we see why he's

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<v Speaker 1>on the trade block. We saw those two backs from Washington.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it makes it. I don't know how much you

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<v Speaker 1>could speak for yourself, but it makes a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of sense to me.

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<v Speaker 5>It does make sense. But obviously Brian Robinson, we've seen

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<v Speaker 5>what he can do. And I just saw some reporters

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<v Speaker 5>obviously doing my little homework, talking about he runs a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit timid, not hitting the hole and just stuff

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<v Speaker 5>like that.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure if the injury history.

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<v Speaker 5>Is probably a cause of that, but obviously they like

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<v Speaker 5>the young bulls, especially Bill.

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<v Speaker 4>He doesn't want to be called Jacob.

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<v Speaker 8>The name is Bill, Bill, Bill hold On, Yeah, Rodriguez, No,

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<v Speaker 8>the other one, the other one, oh Cosky, because what's

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<v Speaker 8>his full name?

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<v Speaker 2>The one that that Jane Daniels got the ball back for.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yes, sir, yes, okay. See say you want to

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<v Speaker 5>be called Bill, I'm a calling Bill.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean thirty rusher temps Oho for one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>eighty five yards and two touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you look at it.

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<v Speaker 1>The two top guys, seventeen rushers between the two of

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<v Speaker 1>them for one hundred and eight yards, and y'all gonna

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<v Speaker 1>look Lovu. Everybody in the stadium, everybody at home knew

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals were not gonna snap that ball at the

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<v Speaker 1>thirty eight yard line on fourth and three except you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you jumped off sides. Everybody nobody when they start

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<v Speaker 1>doing all that motion, when they bring the guy outside,

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<v Speaker 1>they bring him to the backfield, then they spend him

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<v Speaker 1>out there. They're not running, no play bro. They're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get you to jump off sides. And you did it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I get Ojo, We get Newing the Eagles last year,

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<v Speaker 1>remember on the gold line, and he jumped off sides

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<v Speaker 1>like five times, four or five times.

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<v Speaker 2>In a row.

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<v Speaker 1>And the officials say that, you know, if you keep

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<v Speaker 1>doing this, we're just gonna award them to score. I

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<v Speaker 1>get Okay, fine, they're gonna fusch, they gonna score anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>But in a situation like this, these kind of players

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<v Speaker 1>to get your beat because guess what. Guess what happened,

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<v Speaker 1>O Joe? Didn't it go right down the field of

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<v Speaker 1>score touchdown?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes we did, Yes we did.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to talk about how good offense look except

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<v Speaker 5>that second series, the second that second series with Joe

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<v Speaker 5>Brow and the number two's.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I don't know why he did that, Joe, Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>No better.

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<v Speaker 4>You pull back all all the running and scram in that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, throw that bag away, Joe, because you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to take any unnecessary here punishment. Yeah, and then he

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<v Speaker 1>got bailed out again because o'brown got beat and why

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<v Speaker 1>just happened to horse call him. They're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>do a better job of protecting Joe. But O Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>your offense has to look good because that's where all

0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:48.760
<v Speaker 1>your money is. So wherever your money is, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>side of the that's the side of the football you're

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<v Speaker 1>really gonna have to win on.

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<v Speaker 2>Most definitely, most definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look at the Broncs when we played in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineties. GV myself, John Sam Rod yeah, so that's

0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:02.919
<v Speaker 1>where the money was. So that's where we had to be.

0:24:03.359 --> 0:24:04.960
<v Speaker 1>That's where we that's where we had to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I thought your offense, you know, Joe was I

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<v Speaker 1>mean Joe was what nine or fourteen sixty two yards?

0:24:14.400 --> 0:24:16.679
<v Speaker 1>Jake Brownie came in. But Jake Browning, you know, he

0:24:16.720 --> 0:24:19.879
<v Speaker 1>plays well when when asked and given the opportunity. Oh, Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>he plays well. Sixteen to twenty five fine, two touchdowns.

0:24:23.920 --> 0:24:25.680
<v Speaker 1>Densmon Rider came in there through one pass, he was

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<v Speaker 1>won on one for seven yards.

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<v Speaker 2>But.

0:24:30.359 --> 0:24:31.919
<v Speaker 1>And they were going down the field again, and then

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Johnson threw a horble interception.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, old j oh, Josh, Well that's my DoD there.

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<v Speaker 9>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Good see Josh.

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<v Speaker 4>Good to see Josh still like the man working and

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<v Speaker 4>working and working like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, hey he I mean, hey, he don't collect.

0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:51.560
<v Speaker 1>He collected his own jerseys. Hey, he ain't got no

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<v Speaker 1>other player. He ain't got no other player on Jersey.

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<v Speaker 1>Know you trade jersey, jo, Hey, I just collect my own.

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<v Speaker 1>He got by fourteen.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he's uh, he's been on sixteen of the

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<v Speaker 5>thirty two team.

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<v Speaker 4>Sixteen to the thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>Two damop Yeah, oh yeah, I like it so hey,

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<v Speaker 1>So if he ever wre to coach, he knows somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody somewhere.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely absolutely and listen, when you played, when you played

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<v Speaker 5>that long at that position, they will definitely give you

0:25:18.359 --> 0:25:18.760
<v Speaker 5>a job.

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<v Speaker 2>Is he signing? Who's that? Who's that? Our special guest?

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<v Speaker 2>You ain't? You ain't tell me? I thought that sent

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<v Speaker 2>it to you. Here is Ladies and Gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a generational talent and a revere voice in the

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<v Speaker 1>modern hip hop. He announced tour dates Dark Or Tour

0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:49.840
<v Speaker 1>in twenty five city headlining run kicks off October sixteenth

0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:52.880
<v Speaker 1>in Boston. The tour comes off as an announcement as

0:25:52.920 --> 0:25:56.640
<v Speaker 1>this hot highly anticipated new project Lonely at the Top

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<v Speaker 1>that's out August twenty ninth. Areas Ladies and Gentlemen, Joey

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<v Speaker 1>badass Joy, what do you do.

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<v Speaker 2>Man? I'm doing good? How you doing?

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<v Speaker 7>Man?

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<v Speaker 9>I gotta say, like, y'all, y'all really shoot the show

0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:10.639
<v Speaker 9>this slave?

0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:16.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah, let me ask y'all y'all in l.

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<v Speaker 9>A huh nah, I'm in Miami. I'm in Miami and Miami. Okay,

0:26:20.800 --> 0:26:23.800
<v Speaker 9>you see Miami. You know that's that's the night life

0:26:23.920 --> 0:26:24.280
<v Speaker 9>right there.

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<v Speaker 4>Joe Joe, I don't. I don't do the night life.

0:26:28.280 --> 0:26:29.360
<v Speaker 4>I don't do the night life.

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<v Speaker 5>So I take a nap during the day so I'm

0:26:31.160 --> 0:26:32.960
<v Speaker 5>able to get up, you know, to be able.

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<v Speaker 9>To do the show, saying you see, you, see you,

0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:37.680
<v Speaker 9>you understand the program.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't understand the program. So I'm I'm over here

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<v Speaker 3>fighting sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yo, well, but you in that green room,

0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:48.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean like you're developing pictures or something like.

0:26:48.520 --> 0:26:51.560
<v Speaker 3>You were with my studio room right here.

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<v Speaker 9>It's like, you know, part of my ceilings right like

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<v Speaker 9>I had a little a little leak, but are you

0:26:57.280 --> 0:26:59.480
<v Speaker 9>all good? But check it out. I never fixed it

0:26:59.480 --> 0:27:01.720
<v Speaker 9>because I was, you know, I like that. It kind

0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:03.679
<v Speaker 9>of reminds me of like the old days.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, keep it a great I keep it I keep

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<v Speaker 3>it wrong, keep it wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us a little bit about the album.

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<v Speaker 9>So yeah, Lonely at the top. It's out August twenty nine.

0:27:16.680 --> 0:27:21.600
<v Speaker 9>You know, this project is it was made in a

0:27:21.680 --> 0:27:23.520
<v Speaker 9>short amount of time. I want to say, this is

0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:27.320
<v Speaker 9>probably like the fastest I've made a body of work.

0:27:27.440 --> 0:27:30.600
<v Speaker 9>You know, I made a lot of things transpired for

0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:34.360
<v Speaker 9>me this year musically, and it was really just kind

0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:36.399
<v Speaker 9>of pushing my pant, you know what I mean, in

0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:38.000
<v Speaker 9>a way where it's just like, you know, I'm just

0:27:38.119 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 9>kind of eager to get.

0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:41.480
<v Speaker 3>The music out, you know.

0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 9>Lonely at the top means to me is like you know,

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:46.840
<v Speaker 9>kind of looking at looking around and you being at

0:27:46.840 --> 0:27:49.520
<v Speaker 9>the top of your success and you're realizing, like, you know,

0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:54.720
<v Speaker 9>how how much isolation you find it on the other side,

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<v Speaker 9>you know what I'm saying.

0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:57.440
<v Speaker 3>Like, I'm sure you guys could relate, but like.

0:27:58.000 --> 0:28:00.920
<v Speaker 9>Being on that life journey and you know, you're dealing

0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:03.360
<v Speaker 9>with things like Survivors Guild and you know you want

0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:07.960
<v Speaker 9>everybody to come and things like that, but what you find.

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<v Speaker 3>On that other side, you know.

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<v Speaker 9>For for for you to to make it, it's like,

0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:17.879
<v Speaker 9>you know, sometimes it's a it's an isolating feeling, you

0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:19.520
<v Speaker 9>know what I'm saying, because you got to you gotta

0:28:19.560 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 9>block so many things out to maintain that balance, you

0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:25.360
<v Speaker 9>know what I mean. So that's kind of like what

0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:28.080
<v Speaker 9>this collection of music feels like for me. It's kind

0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:32.120
<v Speaker 9>of like a reflection of where I am today right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you get that a lot, you know, coming from

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:38.040
<v Speaker 1>coming from the background, and I'm sure we kind of

0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:40.760
<v Speaker 1>all come from very similar background. But no matter how

0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:43.480
<v Speaker 1>big a bus is, no matter how big a plane is,

0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:47.240
<v Speaker 1>there are x amount of seats and everybody meant to

0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:49.920
<v Speaker 1>find that flight. Somebody meant to catch the next one.

0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Everybody meant to get on that bus, they meant to

0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:55.000
<v Speaker 1>catch the next one. And so what we have to do,

0:28:55.200 --> 0:28:59.360
<v Speaker 1>what's hard sometimes is is figuring out who's supposed to

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:01.880
<v Speaker 1>be a passage on our bus. You're supposed to be

0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:06.040
<v Speaker 1>a passenger own our plane. You know That's that's like

0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:08.480
<v Speaker 1>you do feel bad because, like you said, you've been

0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:09.640
<v Speaker 1>around a lot of these people.

0:29:09.800 --> 0:29:11.040
<v Speaker 2>You're damn entire.

0:29:10.800 --> 0:29:14.680
<v Speaker 9>Life, absolute absolute, And you know I got I got.

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:18.320
<v Speaker 9>The analogy that I use is like the Aladdins purple carpet.

0:29:18.800 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 9>You know what I'm saying, Like if you got a

0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:23.600
<v Speaker 9>hundred motherfuckers on there with you, like you ain't going nowhere, that's.

0:29:23.480 --> 0:29:25.560
<v Speaker 2>You're going to take off, you barely.

0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:27.400
<v Speaker 9>Levit taking off the ground, you know what I'm saying,

0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 9>Like I'm trying to go to the mountaintop.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like, you know, I got to keep it light,

0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:31.240
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean?

0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:35.160
<v Speaker 5>So I could I could have sinned in everything, Hey Joe,

0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:36.480
<v Speaker 5>But how do you, How do you balance that?

0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:37.320
<v Speaker 4>How do you balance that?

0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:39.600
<v Speaker 5>Obviously coming from where you come from, most of us

0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:41.960
<v Speaker 5>have the same background and those that we grew up with.

0:29:42.080 --> 0:29:45.000
<v Speaker 5>Once we start to send and our respect the craft

0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 5>and whatever it is that we do, a lot of

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:48.360
<v Speaker 5>people trying to go along with us.

0:29:48.760 --> 0:29:52.440
<v Speaker 4>They complain or you hating. You ain't real no more.

0:29:52.480 --> 0:29:55.120
<v Speaker 5>You're not taking me on this journey that you health

0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 5>has been working to do. So how have you been

0:29:56.560 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 5>able to navigate with those? When you have a when

0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:01.920
<v Speaker 5>you have an album coming out is longly at the top.

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 5>But those that feel that they deserve to go well

0:30:04.240 --> 0:30:05.040
<v Speaker 5>along with you?

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<v Speaker 9>Well, you know, if I'm being completely honest and completely transparent,

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:11.360
<v Speaker 9>I think that I am still on the journey of

0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:13.800
<v Speaker 9>learning how to balance that. You know what I'm saying.

0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:19.000
<v Speaker 9>I think it is a matter of continuing to find

0:30:19.160 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 9>that balance, you know what I'm saying, Like, you know,

0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:24.040
<v Speaker 9>different things do what I think the strongest thing is

0:30:24.480 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 9>putting God first, you know, like that is my grounding

0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:32.240
<v Speaker 9>factor right there. It's like, you know, remembering God as

0:30:32.240 --> 0:30:35.320
<v Speaker 9>often as I can on the daily and you know,

0:30:35.400 --> 0:30:42.520
<v Speaker 9>remembering that this journey is it's a predestined path. If

0:30:42.560 --> 0:30:44.520
<v Speaker 9>you will, you know what I mean. And it's just

0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:48.160
<v Speaker 9>like I am doing what I can at each given

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:50.800
<v Speaker 9>point in this journey, applying the wisdom that I can

0:30:50.960 --> 0:30:53.240
<v Speaker 9>to make the best moves.

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:53.800
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:56.840
<v Speaker 9>You know, sometimes you might look like, yo, could I

0:30:56.880 --> 0:30:58.880
<v Speaker 9>have done that better? But you know what, that's part

0:30:58.880 --> 0:31:00.840
<v Speaker 9>of the growth as well, you know what I'm saying.

0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:03.720
<v Speaker 9>That's that's part of like reflection and all that. It

0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:05.600
<v Speaker 9>is part of it for sure.

0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're one of those old like now, I don't

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:14.560
<v Speaker 1>know how many true lyricists that we have when I

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:18.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, and I hate hate not enough. It's not enough,

0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:22.840
<v Speaker 1>that's my point, because it used to be. You know,

0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:24.720
<v Speaker 1>you had the k r as One, you had to

0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:28.560
<v Speaker 1>you had Kine, you had rock Him, you had LLL,

0:31:28.680 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 1>you had Slick Rick, you had the Scar Facers, you.

0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:34.600
<v Speaker 2>Had the guys that was that was literally on point.

0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:38.240
<v Speaker 1>And now you know it's different, But you want to

0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:40.000
<v Speaker 1>take it back because you know a lot of the

0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 1>the the o g lyricis originated Brooklyn the Boogey down Bronx,

0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:52.680
<v Speaker 1>KRS won all those guys. So absolutely do you feel

0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 1>that's what's missing from hip hop?

0:31:57.480 --> 0:32:01.760
<v Speaker 9>I would say that. First of all, I'll say that

0:32:02.440 --> 0:32:04.240
<v Speaker 9>I don't like to look at it as I'm taking

0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:05.960
<v Speaker 9>it back. I like to look at it as like

0:32:06.000 --> 0:32:10.160
<v Speaker 9>I'm taking it forward because you advancing it. I'm living

0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:13.440
<v Speaker 9>in this time, you know what I'm saying. And there's

0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:16.440
<v Speaker 9>a Nina Simone quote that like has always resonated with me.

0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:19.000
<v Speaker 9>She said, like, you know, music is going to reflect

0:32:19.400 --> 0:32:23.200
<v Speaker 9>the times. I'm paraphrasing it, but you know something along

0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:25.720
<v Speaker 9>the lines of that, And you know, I always kind

0:32:25.760 --> 0:32:28.640
<v Speaker 9>of stay cognizant of that because I think that we

0:32:28.720 --> 0:32:31.960
<v Speaker 9>are in an interesting time, which is why the musical

0:32:32.040 --> 0:32:35.239
<v Speaker 9>landscape looks the way that it does, because as a

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:40.120
<v Speaker 9>society we are prioritizing certain things and that's coming out

0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:44.880
<v Speaker 9>and our subcultures, if you will, like especially in music.

0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:48.800
<v Speaker 9>But if anything, I look at it as a purposeful

0:32:49.080 --> 0:32:53.000
<v Speaker 9>position to be where I'm at and to represent what

0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:55.640
<v Speaker 9>I represent, because, like you know, in the world full

0:32:55.680 --> 0:33:01.320
<v Speaker 9>of just like godless behave, yeah, just vanity and stuff

0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:01.680
<v Speaker 9>like that.

0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 3>You know, I try to keep my balance by.

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:08.600
<v Speaker 9>Spreading a message when I can, and being purposeful when

0:33:08.600 --> 0:33:13.240
<v Speaker 9>I can, and upholding a certain level of skill effort

0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:14.280
<v Speaker 9>into my craft.

0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:17.479
<v Speaker 5>Hey, when you talk about that skill and effort and

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:19.760
<v Speaker 5>being able to maintain that balance when it comes to you,

0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:22.240
<v Speaker 5>you know, to being a lyricist. The sound of music

0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:24.360
<v Speaker 5>in general from the eighties to the nineties, to the

0:33:24.400 --> 0:33:28.760
<v Speaker 5>two thousands, obviously to date twenty ten to now, the

0:33:28.840 --> 0:33:31.959
<v Speaker 5>sound changes every ten years. Has it difficult for you

0:33:32.360 --> 0:33:35.120
<v Speaker 5>to adjust to what the sound is the time? Or

0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:37.760
<v Speaker 5>do you just stick to your guns and say, listen,

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:39.920
<v Speaker 5>I don't care how what it sounds like right now.

0:33:39.960 --> 0:33:41.480
<v Speaker 5>I'm going to stick to what I've always done and

0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:42.200
<v Speaker 5>what's worked for me.

0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:47.400
<v Speaker 9>Do you in all transparency, I've definitely found myself at

0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:52.840
<v Speaker 9>certain points in my journey, you know, trying to adapt

0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:56.200
<v Speaker 9>if you will, But like you know, where I'm at now,

0:33:56.400 --> 0:33:58.080
<v Speaker 9>I think I'm at a space where it's like I

0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:02.520
<v Speaker 9>no longer necessarily care to adapt. I think what's important

0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 9>to me is being as authentic and true to myself

0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:07.600
<v Speaker 9>as possible, because I feel like in twenty twenty five,

0:34:07.680 --> 0:34:10.600
<v Speaker 9>it's like that's the best thing that you can do, Like,

0:34:10.640 --> 0:34:13.640
<v Speaker 9>you know, with the Internet, Like I think it was

0:34:13.680 --> 0:34:14.240
<v Speaker 9>a little.

0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:16.399
<v Speaker 3>Bit different back in the day because.

0:34:16.080 --> 0:34:19.400
<v Speaker 9>It was all about like, you know where you was

0:34:19.520 --> 0:34:20.920
<v Speaker 9>from and things like that.

0:34:21.000 --> 0:34:23.320
<v Speaker 3>But I think the Internet kind of allows for.

0:34:23.840 --> 0:34:27.120
<v Speaker 9>People to be a little bit more expressive and not

0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:30.960
<v Speaker 9>be so bound by like where they are or where

0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 9>the culture.

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:32.960
<v Speaker 3>Is, you know what I mean.

0:34:33.040 --> 0:34:37.200
<v Speaker 9>It's like we have you know, people with classic sounds

0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:39.400
<v Speaker 9>re emerged. Like you said, it's like the game changes

0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:42.240
<v Speaker 9>every ten years, but it also comes back every twenty

0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:45.839
<v Speaker 9>you know what I'm saying. History repeats itself in an

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:48.719
<v Speaker 9>interesting way. So I think, you know, right now, my

0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:52.480
<v Speaker 9>focus is definitely just what is my authentic voice at

0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:53.000
<v Speaker 9>this time?

0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:54.600
<v Speaker 3>What is true to me at this time?

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:56.879
<v Speaker 9>What do I want to convey how do I want

0:34:56.920 --> 0:34:59.920
<v Speaker 9>to convey it at this time? And I think that

0:35:00.320 --> 0:35:02.600
<v Speaker 9>I use that as my guide in light my north

0:35:02.640 --> 0:35:05.960
<v Speaker 9>star and not like what the landscape of the game

0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:10.520
<v Speaker 9>is per se. Like there's a small awareness of that obviously,

0:35:10.520 --> 0:35:12.359
<v Speaker 9>because you got to know the league that you win,

0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:14.880
<v Speaker 9>you know what I mean. You guys could relate to that,

0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:16.560
<v Speaker 9>you know what I'm saying. You got to know the

0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 9>playing field or whatever. But for the most part, I

0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:20.760
<v Speaker 9>play my game, you know.

0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:25.640
<v Speaker 1>But that got that has to be hard because if

0:35:25.640 --> 0:35:27.640
<v Speaker 1>you do something over and over again, it's like I

0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:29.799
<v Speaker 1>wish you give us something new, And when you give

0:35:29.880 --> 0:35:31.719
<v Speaker 1>them something new. I wish they give I wish you

0:35:31.840 --> 0:35:33.759
<v Speaker 1>go back to the old stuff, because I see that

0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:35.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of times guys like, man, I wish you

0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:38.160
<v Speaker 1>would do something else, and when they do something else,

0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:41.400
<v Speaker 1>now all of a sudden, man, I like the old stuff.

0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:44.480
<v Speaker 1>So how does someone evolve if every time they can

0:35:44.560 --> 0:35:47.279
<v Speaker 1>give you something that you're not used to seeing. It

0:35:47.360 --> 0:35:49.680
<v Speaker 1>seemed like to me that the only person that they

0:35:49.719 --> 0:35:52.760
<v Speaker 1>allowed involved was Beyonce, because you went from one genre

0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:55.880
<v Speaker 1>to a whole new genre, got and got more people

0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:59.240
<v Speaker 1>and got you know, women wearing cowboy boots and cowboy hats,

0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:02.680
<v Speaker 1>and they still the concert again. But when when it

0:36:02.719 --> 0:36:06.600
<v Speaker 1>comes to wrap and other genres, they won't let they

0:36:06.600 --> 0:36:08.800
<v Speaker 1>won't let that artist get out of that box.

0:36:08.880 --> 0:36:11.799
<v Speaker 9>It's more picture hole. Yeah, yeah, I definitely agree with that.

0:36:11.920 --> 0:36:15.479
<v Speaker 9>I think you know, you got to do your role

0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:18.440
<v Speaker 9>in blocking out the noise, okay, because you know what

0:36:18.480 --> 0:36:21.480
<v Speaker 9>I've learned is that fans are fickle. You know what

0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:23.759
<v Speaker 9>I'm saying, Like, like what Jay said is like they

0:36:23.800 --> 0:36:25.720
<v Speaker 9>love you and they hate you and they love you again.

0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:27.000
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying.

0:36:27.040 --> 0:36:29.120
<v Speaker 9>It's like they don't know what you want, what they

0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:32.440
<v Speaker 9>want so I feel like, as an artist, you always got.

0:36:32.200 --> 0:36:34.719
<v Speaker 3>To be doing for you.

0:36:34.719 --> 0:36:36.640
<v Speaker 9>You know what I'm saying, whatever is true for you

0:36:36.719 --> 0:36:39.840
<v Speaker 9>at the time, and even if because I'm definitely big

0:36:39.880 --> 0:36:44.200
<v Speaker 9>and big on that idea of not making the same

0:36:44.320 --> 0:36:47.400
<v Speaker 9>regurgitated thing and taking risks.

0:36:47.680 --> 0:36:48.960
<v Speaker 3>I enjoy taking.

0:36:48.719 --> 0:36:51.120
<v Speaker 9>Risks, you know what I'm saying, and be an experimental

0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:53.280
<v Speaker 9>like I enjoy when I play a song for somebody,

0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:56.560
<v Speaker 9>and somebody it's like that's you like that that that.

0:36:56.320 --> 0:36:59.680
<v Speaker 4>That that okay, yeah, surprise yeah.

0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:02.520
<v Speaker 9>Because it's like, okay, like I did something that you

0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:03.480
<v Speaker 9>didn't think I could do.

0:37:04.120 --> 0:37:04.800
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 9>It's like I'm breaking the mold that you may have

0:37:08.080 --> 0:37:10.040
<v Speaker 9>over me in your mind. You know what I'm saying,

0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:12.440
<v Speaker 9>You didn't know I could. I could go there. But

0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:15.560
<v Speaker 9>at the same time, it's still me if you will,

0:37:15.719 --> 0:37:19.239
<v Speaker 9>you know what I mean. But yeah, like I said,

0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:22.319
<v Speaker 9>just to answer your question in short, though, we gotta

0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:23.160
<v Speaker 9>do it for you.

0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:25.680
<v Speaker 3>You know. It's funny too, because I was just.

0:37:25.680 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 9>Kind of having a mental thought and I'm like, damn,

0:37:28.680 --> 0:37:31.040
<v Speaker 9>like who do I make music for? And I'm like,

0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:33.520
<v Speaker 9>you know what, Like I really can genuinely say that

0:37:33.560 --> 0:37:36.080
<v Speaker 9>I make music for me, like I make the music

0:37:36.160 --> 0:37:40.239
<v Speaker 9>that from my experience, and that like I kind of

0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:42.600
<v Speaker 9>want to listen to or I want to drive my

0:37:42.719 --> 0:37:45.200
<v Speaker 9>car to, or I want to feel flaed to, you

0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:48.160
<v Speaker 9>know what I mean. And then it's like everybody else's

0:37:48.239 --> 0:37:50.719
<v Speaker 9>kind of secondary. And I know that might feel that

0:37:50.840 --> 0:37:53.799
<v Speaker 9>might sound a little funny, but that is That was

0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:56.040
<v Speaker 9>the thought that I had when I made my first

0:37:56.280 --> 0:37:59.920
<v Speaker 9>body of work, Like there was nobody, there was no audience,

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:01.719
<v Speaker 9>there was no fans, it was just me and my

0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:03.560
<v Speaker 9>four walls, and I'm like, this is dope.

0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:06.440
<v Speaker 3>Like I think this is tight, you know what I'm saying.

0:38:06.520 --> 0:38:08.120
<v Speaker 2>So I stay.

0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:10.800
<v Speaker 3>I try to stay as close to that that place.

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 2>Listen.

0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:14.520
<v Speaker 5>As long as you've been in the game and all

0:38:14.600 --> 0:38:17.680
<v Speaker 5>the work that you've done over the years. I understand

0:38:17.719 --> 0:38:20.319
<v Speaker 5>the politics that comes into the music industry. It's it's

0:38:20.360 --> 0:38:26.520
<v Speaker 5>a very very fickle, very very uh dangerous industry from

0:38:26.560 --> 0:38:29.680
<v Speaker 5>a political standpoint. If there's one author that you would

0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:32.120
<v Speaker 5>love to work with that you haven't worked with, who

0:38:32.160 --> 0:38:32.680
<v Speaker 5>would it be?

0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:36.200
<v Speaker 2>I would love to work with Forrell.

0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:41.840
<v Speaker 7>Rules because my phone is about to die telling me

0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:42.400
<v Speaker 7>I was.

0:38:43.960 --> 0:38:48.480
<v Speaker 9>I was sleep for real, But yeah, Forrell, it's definitely

0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:50.640
<v Speaker 9>somebody who I've always wanted to work with.

0:38:51.120 --> 0:38:54.400
<v Speaker 7>We've close passed many times, we just haven't been.

0:38:54.280 --> 0:38:57.560
<v Speaker 2>A damn joy. Did you pay your did you pay

0:38:57.600 --> 0:38:58.160
<v Speaker 2>your light bill?

0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:07.279
<v Speaker 7>All that? Yo?

0:39:07.400 --> 0:39:09.439
<v Speaker 2>Yo? I don't I don't think you heard. I don't

0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:12.239
<v Speaker 2>think you understand. Like it's bedtime over here. You know

0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:17.359
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying? Like lights out? Where you at?

0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:18.360
<v Speaker 4>We live at?

0:39:19.160 --> 0:39:20.160
<v Speaker 7>I'm on the East Coast?

0:39:20.840 --> 0:39:23.520
<v Speaker 4>Okay, okay, well yeah so I'm up in New York.

0:39:25.800 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Speaker 1>Well you at the you you are at the birthplace,

0:39:29.320 --> 0:39:31.719
<v Speaker 1>the mecca of hip hop. Give me some of your

0:39:31.719 --> 0:39:37.799
<v Speaker 1>early influences. Who was influential that joy? Like you know what?

0:39:37.840 --> 0:39:38.720
<v Speaker 1>I want to do that?

0:39:38.920 --> 0:39:44.279
<v Speaker 7>Oh Jay No, Biggie mn dom.

0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:55.040
<v Speaker 9>Uh Park like dang Ja Rue the Damager. I was

0:39:55.040 --> 0:39:56.520
<v Speaker 9>a big j rud the Damagers?

0:39:58.760 --> 0:39:58.880
<v Speaker 7>Uh?

0:39:59.200 --> 0:39:59.640
<v Speaker 2>Who else?

0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:02.439
<v Speaker 10>Yea even R and B man Ship, a little ship

0:40:02.560 --> 0:40:04.799
<v Speaker 10>even more new generation, a little bow Wow.

0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:08.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I was a kid in that era.

0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:10.960
<v Speaker 3>So like seeing a little bad Wow do his thing.

0:40:11.040 --> 0:40:12.759
<v Speaker 2>That a lot for me because I was like, oh ship,

0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:16.080
<v Speaker 2>could I could do that? You know what I mean? Yeah? Yeah?

0:40:16.080 --> 0:40:19.920
<v Speaker 2>People people, people sleep on my boys. Shad, Shad deserves

0:40:20.000 --> 0:40:23.359
<v Speaker 2>way on your about was like that. Yeah.

0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:25.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he had a beauty. He had a nice run. Boy,

0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:27.560
<v Speaker 4>he had a real nice run. Hey, hey, Joe, you

0:40:27.600 --> 0:40:32.600
<v Speaker 4>listening about you listened to Battle Rap? Oh yeah, okay, okay, yeah.

0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:34.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah yeah yeah.

0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:36.759
<v Speaker 9>I love I love battle rap, you know what I mean.

0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:40.759
<v Speaker 9>My man loaded Lux. I just had it back and

0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:42.920
<v Speaker 9>forth with the Homie Daylight.

0:40:42.640 --> 0:40:47.239
<v Speaker 3>Earlier this year. You know, they like they like.

0:40:47.360 --> 0:40:50.919
<v Speaker 9>Gotti is probably on my top five battle rappers as well,

0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:53.200
<v Speaker 9>along with the other two names I mentioned.

0:40:53.320 --> 0:40:55.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I love the battle rap coaching. Man, Yeah,

0:40:56.080 --> 0:40:56.560
<v Speaker 2>I love that.

0:40:57.080 --> 0:40:58.680
<v Speaker 1>So what's going on. What's going on with you in

0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:01.160
<v Speaker 1>the West Coast? What's going on?

0:41:01.680 --> 0:41:02.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:06.160
<v Speaker 10>Oh we cool, we cool, we we we We had

0:41:06.160 --> 0:41:12.120
<v Speaker 10>we had a little you know, lyrile cool squabble. But

0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:14.880
<v Speaker 10>you know it wasn't about nothing. It was just you know,

0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:19.600
<v Speaker 10>everybody wanting to show that that they the best, right

0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:20.239
<v Speaker 10>you know.

0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:22.480
<v Speaker 9>So yeah, we got we got down a little bit.

0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:24.680
<v Speaker 9>It was fun, but it was.

0:41:26.200 --> 0:41:28.919
<v Speaker 2>You guys were still on that type of time. Yeah.

0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:30.879
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, like I mean, listen, it was all in good

0:41:31.000 --> 0:41:33.680
<v Speaker 9>faith and I'm grateful for that, you know what I mean.

0:41:33.719 --> 0:41:36.200
<v Speaker 9>I made a statement at the beginning of the year

0:41:36.360 --> 0:41:38.279
<v Speaker 9>and one of my records, and some rappers on the

0:41:38.280 --> 0:41:41.200
<v Speaker 9>West Coast took offense to it. I didn't meet offense

0:41:41.280 --> 0:41:45.120
<v Speaker 9>to it, but at the same time, I respected their perspective,

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:47.799
<v Speaker 9>and you know, we we.

0:41:48.160 --> 0:41:51.240
<v Speaker 7>Pretty much just traded some bars.

0:41:51.280 --> 0:41:54.560
<v Speaker 4>Like made it better, made the better pin win.

0:41:54.840 --> 0:41:56.120
<v Speaker 2>Made the better pen win.

0:41:56.440 --> 0:41:59.160
<v Speaker 3>Indeed, indeed, indeed.

0:41:59.719 --> 0:42:01.080
<v Speaker 2>Do you kick it with? I mean, do you kick

0:42:01.120 --> 0:42:05.719
<v Speaker 2>it with anybody? Or you you you're soloist?

0:42:06.040 --> 0:42:11.200
<v Speaker 9>I am by nature now in this phase of my life,

0:42:11.239 --> 0:42:14.840
<v Speaker 9>I do. I am solo a lot. But yeah, yeah,

0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:17.400
<v Speaker 9>like when you say anybody, you mean like rapper friends

0:42:17.440 --> 0:42:17.719
<v Speaker 9>type of.

0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Thing, Yeah, yeah, you got you know, the homies that

0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:20.560
<v Speaker 2>you kick it with.

0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:23.880
<v Speaker 9>Oh yeah, you know j I d Is a great

0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:27.960
<v Speaker 9>friend of mine, Corday is a great friend of mine.

0:42:28.360 --> 0:42:29.560
<v Speaker 2>They sat ferg.

0:42:30.239 --> 0:42:34.520
<v Speaker 9>Danzel Curry like those are those are my guys for real?

0:42:34.680 --> 0:42:35.640
<v Speaker 2>And then it's like, you know.

0:42:35.600 --> 0:42:38.800
<v Speaker 9>I got I got a bunch of people just scattered

0:42:38.800 --> 0:42:41.360
<v Speaker 9>throughout the industry that, like, you know, a really solid

0:42:41.400 --> 0:42:43.960
<v Speaker 9>individuals and I've been rocking with for a long time for.

0:42:44.000 --> 0:42:46.600
<v Speaker 7>Sure, But you know, you know how it is, like

0:42:46.719 --> 0:42:47.720
<v Speaker 7>you know, I said, man.

0:42:47.560 --> 0:42:49.880
<v Speaker 9>You get to a certain age it's just it's just

0:42:49.960 --> 0:42:51.960
<v Speaker 9>not what it was in the early twenties and in

0:42:52.040 --> 0:42:54.160
<v Speaker 9>your team these years when it's like you hang with

0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:57.279
<v Speaker 9>people every day and stuff like that, it's like we.

0:42:57.280 --> 0:42:59.399
<v Speaker 1>All got our own Like the older I get that,

0:42:59.480 --> 0:43:01.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, the do you see what Once you get

0:43:01.480 --> 0:43:03.160
<v Speaker 1>to a certain age, you get to pick your friends.

0:43:03.360 --> 0:43:05.640
<v Speaker 1>It like when you you know, you were in elementary school,

0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:07.719
<v Speaker 1>junior high, in high school and everybody just around, Oh

0:43:07.800 --> 0:43:10.120
<v Speaker 1>that's my friend, that's my friend. You get older, you

0:43:10.120 --> 0:43:12.920
<v Speaker 1>get to pick your friend, and you know that you

0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:14.200
<v Speaker 1>pick less and less of them.

0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:17.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's true. That's true. You got less time, you

0:43:17.400 --> 0:43:18.880
<v Speaker 2>got less time to vet them.

0:43:19.520 --> 0:43:22.080
<v Speaker 9>That's the fact. I've always heard just the same. Pick

0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:25.200
<v Speaker 9>your friends like you pick your fruit because I'll be

0:43:25.440 --> 0:43:27.680
<v Speaker 9>I mean, I'll be in the food hour in the

0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:28.920
<v Speaker 9>grocery store.

0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:32.080
<v Speaker 1>For a minute, like looking through. Yeah, that's why, that's why.

0:43:32.160 --> 0:43:33.640
<v Speaker 1>That's why you got to wash your fruit when you

0:43:33.640 --> 0:43:35.680
<v Speaker 1>get home. You hear what he's saying. The head in

0:43:35.680 --> 0:43:37.520
<v Speaker 1>his hand, he done thump that he done toast it

0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:38.680
<v Speaker 1>up like it's a tennis ball.

0:43:41.000 --> 0:43:46.239
<v Speaker 2>You got to watch that Apple lott Hey check this out.

0:43:46.560 --> 0:43:50.640
<v Speaker 1>You made your television television acting debut on a US network.

0:43:51.000 --> 0:43:52.200
<v Speaker 2>You try to do any more acting?

0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:57.080
<v Speaker 7>Oh not trying, brother, I am doing. Oh you doing,

0:43:57.760 --> 0:43:58.840
<v Speaker 7>absolutely doing.

0:43:59.000 --> 0:43:59.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:02.880
<v Speaker 9>I got some projects in the works right now that

0:44:02.920 --> 0:44:06.480
<v Speaker 9>I what's up necessarily revealed at the moment, but I'm

0:44:06.480 --> 0:44:09.520
<v Speaker 9>excited to share them when I can reveal. Like this

0:44:09.680 --> 0:44:12.560
<v Speaker 9>really big project I'm really excited about the shoot in

0:44:12.640 --> 0:44:16.160
<v Speaker 9>Paris next year, probably gonna be like, you know, one

0:44:16.200 --> 0:44:19.360
<v Speaker 9>of my I feel like this could be like, you know,

0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:22.960
<v Speaker 9>my real magnum opus in the film TV world, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>in Charlotte. But yeah, you know, raising Kanaan. We still

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<v Speaker 9>got one more season to go for that. That's been

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<v Speaker 9>a pleasure. And then I had the Netflix short a

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<v Speaker 9>few years ago to Just the Strangers that Want to

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<v Speaker 9>Oscar And yeah, a couple of projects in development as well.

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<v Speaker 9>So acting is definitely something that you know, I take serious.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we want you to do it a favor. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Oo Is is a lyricist. H he goes to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>do open where I know you remember the movie Love

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<v Speaker 1>Jones Trade.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Lareen's excuse me?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh and uh nea long so has been you know

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<v Speaker 1>going to these you know, just open you know these

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<v Speaker 1>uh spoken words.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so uh, Joey, graded, We're.

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<v Speaker 1>Gonna let you great because you know you're the professor

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<v Speaker 1>and the lyricists and great penmanship.

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<v Speaker 2>So great. Oh chose a spoken word. Let's go.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, listen, Joey, my pen is like that. Hold on less.

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<v Speaker 5>Let me getting carried. I'm a little I'm under the

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<v Speaker 5>weather right now. Let me get in Charriaedter, I bet

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<v Speaker 5>do you think you think long summer nights? They all

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<v Speaker 5>come to play. They're walking across the streets acting like

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<v Speaker 5>a straight She has an umbrella, but it's not even raining.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it. Thank you, thank you. I'm gonna give you

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<v Speaker 2>one of those, man.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta you gotta keep it classing man. The funny

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<v Speaker 2>thing about it.

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<v Speaker 5>The funny thing about it is people will hear what

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<v Speaker 5>I just said and not be able to visualize what

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<v Speaker 5>I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a message behind that.

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<v Speaker 5>Unless you in that in that mold and that spirit

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<v Speaker 5>and had that vision, you'll never understand what I say.

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<v Speaker 5>So you go back and listen to it again with

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<v Speaker 5>your eyes closed. Then the people in the chat you

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<v Speaker 5>understand what I'm going with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Then it comes to life.

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<v Speaker 4>Bingo, Yeah, everybody can't. They don't, they don't have my vision.

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<v Speaker 9>Anybody can't go. Anybody can't get on that plane.

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<v Speaker 2>But we just talked.

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<v Speaker 4>We just talked about that.

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<v Speaker 2>He has a tour.

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<v Speaker 1>Dark Aura starts off twenty five city headlining clicks off

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<v Speaker 1>October sixteenth in Boston. Uh new album drops August twenty ninth,

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<v Speaker 1>Lonely at the Top, Joy Badass, stop by, stop back

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<v Speaker 1>by and talk to him sometimes, and let me ask

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<v Speaker 1>you this.

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<v Speaker 2>Who you who you got this year? Who your team?

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<v Speaker 2>And why? Who's my team? And basketball? Football? Football all?

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<v Speaker 9>Like you guys probably hate me when I say this,

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<v Speaker 9>but I don't really watch football. Bro Okay, yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 9>I don't know. I'm the wrong person to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't know what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Who are your basketball team? Who's your basket? Who you who? Team? Man?

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<v Speaker 9>Like I'm always rooting for Lebron Man, I'm always rooting

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<v Speaker 9>for le Bron Big Lebron Man.

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<v Speaker 7>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go. That's what we talk about. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get you out here.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna get you out here on that one George

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<v Speaker 1>Man Fest of Love, continue success Man, stop back by

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<v Speaker 1>and see her sometime.

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<v Speaker 3>Bro.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, Sorry, it's so late, but this was, this was

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<v Speaker 2>we came on the way.

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<v Speaker 9>Next time, I'm going to make sure I get my

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<v Speaker 9>power in that being like Ochoke sal make sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we appreciate that, brother. Thanks for joining y'all. Much love,

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<v Speaker 2>Joey Badass Chat