1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Lifetime, the official athletic country Club of the Minnesota Vikings, 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: has something for every member of your family. Get your 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: family going today at Lifetime, dot Life, Forward, slash Kits. 4 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: My position of choice would be wide receiver though, because 5 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: I think when you look around the league and you 6 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: look at a Philly and you look at a San 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: Francisco and you go, why was that rock Bertie so 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: good last year? Because they have so many dudes who 9 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: can get open and catch the ball and make plays, 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: and San Francisco just kept going back to that. Well, 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: I'm really interested to see what this Minnesota Vikings team 12 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 1: does one. I really think Josh Oliver is the most 13 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: unique signing this offseason. What's going on? Welcome to another 14 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: edition of the Minnesota Vikings Podcast, presented by Twin Cities ORTHOPEDICX. 15 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: My name is Gay Henderson. I'm inside the TCO Radio 16 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: studio here and Egan with my man j Notes, our 17 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: special guest mister Matthew Kyler, and on the ones and 18 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 1: twos mister DJ Eric Davidson, and we have a special 19 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: show today simply because we are fresh off the press 20 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,199 Speaker 1: of Quasio Dopo Mensa and Kevin O'Connell's press conference heading 21 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: into the twenty twenty three NFL Draft. And I know 22 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: a lot of people say that those guys say a 23 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: lot to say nothing at all, But I feel like 24 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: we did get a lot of information today heading into 25 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty three NFL Draft. Kyler, you were in 26 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: that room, You were in the presser room today, asking questions, 27 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: listening in. What were some of your key takeaways just 28 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: heading into two weeks from now? Yeah, And I feel 29 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: like some people act like it's some sort of burden 30 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: that we get to try to read between the lines, 31 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: where I think it's really fun to try to read 32 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: between the lines of what the GM and coaches saying 33 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: and be like, oh, did you hear him say that word? 34 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: Like what does that mean? Does that mean they're picking 35 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: a quarterback? Like that's part of the entertainment value. Of course, 36 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: quarterback was at the forefront of this conversation because Kirk 37 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: Cousins is only under contract for one more year, and 38 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: if you have a quarterback in that situation without a 39 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: long term extension, then you are on that list. And 40 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: so the Daniel Jeremiah's of the world are mocking you. 41 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: Hendon Hooker and left and right, they're getting connected with 42 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. So there was a lot to be asked 43 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: about that, and you know, I did think it was 44 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: interesting that one thing Kevin O'Connell talked about was that ideally, 45 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: he said, you would want a quarterback to be developing 46 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: behind Kirk Cousins. But if that's going to happen, then 47 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: everyone has to be on the same page. And I mean, 48 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: I've always, of course, in theory, been a believer that, look, 49 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: none of us know what quarterbacks are going to work out, 50 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: so if you need one, you should just take one, 51 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: if he's a first round prospect, and then just go 52 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: for it. But that's a lot easier for me to say. 53 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you have an entire building, you have a 54 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: former quarterback who's a head coach. You cannot draft a 55 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,399 Speaker 1: quarterback if your former quarterback head coach does not buy 56 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: into that guy. And that if you're general managers, analytics 57 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: and you're scouting depart don't all get on the same 58 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: page and say this is someone we want to make 59 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: our future quarterback because it means so much to the organization. 60 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: And once you do it, there's so much scrutiny. I mean, 61 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: you can draft a Kellen Mond in the third round, 62 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: everyone goes, oh, okay, maybe that's a developmental quarterback. You 63 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: take one in the first round. Every broadcast next year 64 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: showing that guy on the sideline, Well, there's Hendon Hooker. 65 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: He's waiting for next year where he's going to be 66 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: their quarterback. And you also stake your GM and head 67 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: coach careers on who you draft a quarterback. So even 68 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 1: though I think we all know that it's kind of 69 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: random who works out and who doesn't. It can be 70 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: a crapshoot. But if everybody's not on the same page, 71 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: then if it doesn't work out, it becomes a total 72 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: disaster for that organization. So I thought that that was 73 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: valuable perspective. Also, you know quasy adapt fulmensa talking about 74 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: year two in the draft, I mean talk about like 75 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: out of the frying pan into the fire for him. 76 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,119 Speaker 1: Last year, you're working for Cleveland, then you're hired here, 77 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: then you're trading on draft day with the team in 78 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: the division, and just this whirlwind. So now with year two, 79 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: a lot more people on the same page, understanding the 80 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: strengths of people in your front office. I think that's 81 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: an advantage for them. But I will say quacy trying 82 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: not to say yeah, we'd love to trade down and 83 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: get more picks, Like, look, they don't have a lot 84 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: of picks, and I think us draft simulators or mock 85 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: drafters would like them to have more picks so we 86 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: can pretend to take more players. But that is a 87 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: major storyline here too. If you're not taking a quarterback, 88 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,679 Speaker 1: can you move back still get the valuable positions, because 89 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: I think there are quite a few positions of need 90 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: and not so much draft capital to work with. And 91 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: that's what I was thinking too, was you know, one 92 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: of the things that's been talked about, especially in the 93 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: last week, is the amount of uncertainty. Now that everyone 94 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: assumed you'd have top two picks or top three picks, 95 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: there'd be some quarterbacks in there. What happens if somebody 96 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: doesn't decide to do that, or what it happens at 97 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: that third pick if it decides to get traded out. 98 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: There's a whole lot of variables that can happen there. So, 99 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: like you were just talking about the idea of having 100 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: all of your ducks in a row and trying to 101 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: figure out exactly all your scenarios. I know they'll run 102 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: through as many mock drafts as possible to figure out 103 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: scenarios of what happens if we get here. But the 104 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: idea of you trading back, fans always hate it. They 105 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: always freak out. They're like, what are they doing? We're 106 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: missing out on X, Y and Z. But in like 107 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: you said, in the scenario where you currently have five picks, 108 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: that kind of draft capital being able to pick something up, 109 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: and if you are moving back within the first round, 110 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: it's usually going to be some sort of decent compensation 111 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: coming back. So I wouldn't be surprised if something like 112 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: that were to happen. Now, other positions that have been 113 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: brought up recently were things like wide receivers or edge 114 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: rushers or whatever. If the Vikings don't stand pat and 115 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: pick quarterback, is there a position that you think that 116 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: needs to be a draft or that they most likely 117 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: will address in this draft. Yeah? See, this is hard 118 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: because you hire Brian Flores, and I think we all 119 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: saw the defense play football last year and we understand 120 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: that not only is that the but also Patrick Peterson's 121 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: not here, Eric Kendricks is not here. So there are 122 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: positions that need to be addressed on the defensive side. 123 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: And I looked back at their drafting on defense, like 124 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: sort of how we got here with the defense struggling 125 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: as much as it did. They've only drafted since twenty 126 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: fifteen three players in the first or second round on 127 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: the defensive side, So their whole thing was essentially just 128 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: taken a bunch of gambles in the mid rounds and 129 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: not enough of those paid off, and that's why they 130 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: had to dip into free agency a lot and try 131 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: to just patch over holes. So there is a good 132 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: argument to say one of the reasons the defense is 133 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: what it is is because you haven't spent that draft capital. 134 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: And I know you mentioned like sexy draft picks. The 135 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: fans are not going to enjoy a cornerback in the 136 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: first round, but there's a good case for it. They're 137 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: not gonna especially not a linebacker. There's a little less 138 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: of a case for that, I think based on positional value. 139 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: But would it be insane to take a Drew Sanders, 140 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: who can do a lot of different things, who can 141 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: rush off the edge, and you be versatile in a 142 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: Brian Florist defense. So you hire this new defensive coordinator 143 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: with a scouting background there's sort of little evidence there 144 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: like maybe that might be a good idea. My position 145 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: of choice would be wide receiver though, because I think 146 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: when you look around the league and you look at 147 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: a Philly and you look at a San Francisco and 148 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: you go, why was that brock Purty so good last year? 149 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,119 Speaker 1: Because they have so many dudes who can get open 150 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: and catch the ball and make plays. And San Francisco 151 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: just kept going back to that, well like, do we 152 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: need Brandon Ayuk? No, but we're drafting him anyway, do we, 153 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: you know? Right? So, and then even with Christian McCaffrey, 154 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: at the time they made the trade, I was like, oh, 155 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: it's pretty risky, but adding another weapon, especially in the 156 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: passing game for their quarterbacks, and that's kind of the 157 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan forty nine ers ethos is that we can 158 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: plug people in. And so this is a team that 159 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: has one of the best human beings playing football on 160 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: Earth playing wide receiver. But with Adam thieland gone, next 161 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: man up is kJ Osborne has been more of a 162 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: slot receiver. That's where he's had his success. And then 163 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: and I'm not really sure next man up after that 164 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: is we saw a little flashes of Jaalen Naylor. I 165 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: think Jalen Rager will probably stay in a special team's role, 166 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: and then Brandon Powell, who's more of a special teams 167 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: guy himself in his background. And I also look at 168 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: this class and I think about like the how we're 169 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: talking about. Oh no, there's no Kelvin Johnson, there's no 170 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: Julio Jones. But I think in the NFL, if you're 171 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: contributing getting open especially if Justin Jefferson's taking all the 172 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: attention making plays, like what would it cost to get 173 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: a solid number two wide receiver in free agency fifteen 174 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 1: million bucks, but you can get one at the back 175 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: end of the first round or the early second round. 176 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: And we've seen a lot of those guys turn out 177 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: to be better than their draft projections, including Justin Jefferson, 178 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: who was the fifth receiver off the board. If we 179 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: were redrafting that he would not be fifth off the board. 180 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: And you're currently in that similar wheelhouse, like you just said, 181 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: with that position for drafting. One of the things though, 182 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: with that is Kevin and Quays, even at different points 183 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: at the back end of last season, had you know 184 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: one of the things that they really valued was speed, 185 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: And I think that's the thing that I keep thinking 186 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: about with all the different moves that have and have 187 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: not happened this offseason, is the idea they want speedy, 188 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: explosive players. And you're talking about a place like San Francisco, 189 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: you also think about Kansas City, or you think about 190 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: why Miami went and got Tigrey Kill, same kind of 191 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: thing this league, because it's becoming so offense oriented in 192 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: the way that even the rules are being written. It 193 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,719 Speaker 1: just feels like the modern game is going to be 194 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: that speed kind of game, and so I wouldn't be 195 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: surprised to see those guys try to make those kind 196 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: of moves to get those kind of people with those 197 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: kind of attributes. Yeah, that makes the most sense as 198 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: far as just getting guys that can make explosive plays, 199 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: really good playmakers with the ball in their hand. But 200 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 1: for fans, the last thing they want right now is 201 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: for the Vikings to trade all the way back to 202 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: thirty two and then select a guy that I mean, 203 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: I think Louisiane is going to be a phenomenal player 204 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: for this Minnesota Vikings team. I'll preface that by saying that, 205 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: but another safety or another corner back at thirty two. 206 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: That's that's not going to be fun for fans that 207 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: are going to the US Bank Draft party April twenty 208 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: seventh at six pm tickers our own seal and at 209 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: vikings dot com right now if you want to go. 210 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: But at the same time, you do have to someone 211 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: make a splash pick with that twenty third overall selection 212 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: if not moved back to get you know, a couple 213 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: more players. I mean, I've been to drafts where they 214 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 1: haven't picked, so I remember what those kind of reactions. 215 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: I think that that's actually quite possible. All of us 216 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: are doing our draft shows and everything else, and they 217 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: were like, and now the Viking, oh, they've traded to 218 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: forty four and to see you tomorrow night. But and 219 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: then not in the the buckway either of this, we'll 220 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: see it tomorrow night, where you're just at the US 221 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: Bank Stadium going we just need to get people out 222 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: of the build a much more sad night. That was 223 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: like when they traded the one year they had no 224 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: second round pick, but they had all the thirds and 225 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: through the second round or just dying like okay, and 226 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: then this good guy, you know, the two interesting things 227 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: from both of that, I mean, the trade back is 228 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: not sexy. But also I will give Vikings fans, I 229 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: think some credit that they understand that there is value 230 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: in this and last year. I think we can look 231 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: at it at this moment and say, you traded back 232 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: really far, and do you want to do that again? 233 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: Where you trade back that far so you do forego 234 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: a lot of opportunities for higher level prospects that have 235 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: chances to become stars. And you mentioned Lewis Scene, I 236 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: mean this whole draft class totally undecided. We do not know. 237 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: I think if you're acting like you know already what 238 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: this draft class is going to be, go back and 239 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: look at just first years for any draft class, even 240 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: the twenty fifteen draft class that turn out to be unbelievable. 241 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: You didn't know that Diggs was going to be what 242 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: he was. Eric Kendricks, Daniel Hunter I think had six 243 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: sacks his first year. You probably saw a little flash. 244 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 1: But we really don't know until the second or third 245 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: year of a draft class. But I think that based 246 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: on just process in general, there were some ski things 247 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: there moving back that far. Trading with a team in 248 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: your division, giving your team in a division a really 249 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 1: fast wide receiver, like these things are kind of scores, 250 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: are you in his first catch in the NFL? Of 251 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: course had to rub that in, But but I also 252 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: think that we can access draft value charts and things 253 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: like this, and that we know that there's a lot 254 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: of value in that, like there's a there is a 255 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: there is a lot of value in getting a solid 256 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: corner and receiver prospect if that's what they do, and 257 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: that's going to be better than maybe just picking one guy. 258 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: And also the receiver and corner classes. I think the 259 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: difference between someone who's the twenty third best prospect and 260 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: fortieth it might not be that much in this class. 261 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: I think both of these classes have a lot of 262 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: strength in that back end of the first in the 263 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: middle of the second. The one thing I was thinking about, though, 264 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: you were talking about trying to address some of those 265 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: in the fans not necessarily being thinking those are sexy picks. 266 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,839 Speaker 1: I mean last year, five of your first six picks 267 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: were defense, and so you had a safety in there, 268 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: a corner, a linebacker, and then another defensive lineman and 269 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: in another corner. So like you you saw last year 270 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: that they were at least trying to address some of 271 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: those positions. And I think they also saw and having 272 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: a guy like Peterson who was an aging veteran who 273 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: was a starter. They're hoping that some of these guys 274 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:15,599 Speaker 1: that either were hurt or didn't get a lot of 275 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 1: run this past year step up and take some of 276 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: those leadership roles or those starting roles. But even the 277 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: idea then of grabbing somebody. I think one of the 278 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: things they talked about was the idea of drafting for 279 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: kind of not necessarily need, but for best player available. 280 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: They'd like to, you know, talk about that kind of 281 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: phrase and buzzword to keep themselves flexible. But I think 282 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: as as somebody who's looking at this team just in general, 283 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: there were a lot of questions at the end of 284 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,239 Speaker 1: the year about depth and a lot of different positions. 285 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: Are there certain plays or certain pieces that they could 286 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,719 Speaker 1: do within the draft and moves that they could make 287 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: that would help address some of those depth positions, Because 288 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: when you talk about a guy like Denil Hunter, the 289 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: idea was, you know, Brian Robinson was there as kind 290 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 1: of the aging veteran to teach him and ever and 291 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: was there as well. You have some of those guys 292 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: that were the leaders to get them there versus having 293 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: to plug in a rookie right away. At the same 294 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: point this offseason, there were a lot of people in 295 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: the secondary that left the organization. So where could this 296 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: team potentially find those picks if you got to the 297 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: point where you didn't address that early in the draft. Yeah. 298 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: One of the things that has been hard about analyzing 299 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: this offseason is that there's things still floating in the air, 300 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: and that was addressed or sort of addressed in today's 301 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: press conference. But I think that by not definitively saying 302 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: Zadarius Smith and Delvin Cook will be on this team, 303 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: it certainly leaves the door open for us to continue 304 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: to speculate about whether they will be. But there hasn't 305 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: been any pressure like you don't have to do it today. 306 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: We've certainly seen Aaron Rodgers drag it out with their trade, 307 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: So you can wait and wait and see if someone 308 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: gets desperate in the draft if you want to make 309 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: a move like that. But my point just being that 310 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: some of these things may have to be addressed in 311 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: free agency with whatever money is created for them, because 312 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: they have the least them on a cap space in 313 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: the league right now. But if you trade zad Arias Smith. 314 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: If you trade Delvid Cook, then all of a sudden 315 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: you have cap space. And if you look at the 316 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: free agent list, there's guys out there who can help 317 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: your team, who can create depth. So they in the 318 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: front office know how they're going to approach that we 319 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: do not know. So it's hard to say, like, well, 320 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: they could do it this way that way. I think 321 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: it's smart always it just works out historically, maybe not 322 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: with Bashad Brelan, but around the league to get that 323 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: sort of corner who slipped through the cracks, who's kind 324 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: of cheaper and a veteran to fill out your depth 325 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: for a one year contract and maybe it works out 326 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: or two year contract. I could see them doing that 327 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: rather than taking a ton of corners in the draft. 328 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: The linebacker position is interesting because it seems like every 329 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: year this team is taking mid round corners and none 330 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: of them have really come to fruition. I think the 331 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: best depth linebacker was undrafted is Eric Wilson, probably in 332 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: the last number of years, and we haven't seen it 333 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: since then. But that's the thing about having five raft 334 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: picks that's so hard is I think that you can 335 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: make an argument for about five six different positions where 336 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: you could say, you know what, you could really use 337 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: an extra dude here, You could really use an extra 338 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: dude there, wide receiver, I mean the running back room. 339 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: If Dalvin Cook isn't a part of this, then you 340 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: have Chandler Wong Woon. Neither one of them are proven. 341 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: Madison has never been that that guy who plays seventeen 342 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: games as a starter. So would you want to draft 343 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: somebody in the fourth round or the third round? Like, 344 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: there's so many different scenarios with this team that are 345 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: really interesting, and I think that until we know what's 346 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: going to happen with those two big situations, it's much 347 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: harder to say, like where they're going to point their 348 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: lasers to try to fill out depth. Yeah, we've we've 349 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: talked about that in the past. The idea of free 350 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: agency being there's kind of three phases to it. There's 351 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: the initial pop where you just hear all the crazy 352 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: numbers of all the huge names that are getting signed 353 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: to right away, and then there's yeah, and then there's 354 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: kind of the second wave of people that are like, oh, yeah, 355 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: these guys are out here, and then they're the next group, 356 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: and then there's this lull till you get done with 357 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: the draft, and then as soon as the draft is done, 358 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: like you said, all of a sudden, teams start saying, 359 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: where do we need to fill holes? Where can we 360 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: get some best value that way and what you know, 361 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 1: who's available that they can kind of call their shot 362 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 1: financially and at the same point, you know, teams can 363 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: look at it and say, I know you might not 364 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: necessarily have a ton of options. At the same point, 365 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: you would be a great fit for an organization. So 366 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: this will be kind of that third wave of free 367 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: agency that'll kick in after the draft. Kind of reminds 368 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: me of like Xavier Woods a couple of years ago 369 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: when he we signed him in that third wave, came 370 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: in really good player, got a big contract in Carolina 371 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. So I'm really interested to 372 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: see what this Minnesota Vikings team does one free agency. 373 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: Speaking what Jay just talked about, I really think Josh 374 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: Oliver is the most unique signing this off season one 375 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: because you bring him in as a blocker. So is 376 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: that Kevin O'Connell saying You're, okay, we're going to commit 377 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: to the run a little bit more. You've resigned c 378 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: J hamp So Okay, the run game is going to 379 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: be really important, but at the same time, you can 380 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: be flexible with him, you can do more things with 381 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: him in the past game. But when you think of 382 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: that and you think of the five picks, how I 383 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: guess how realistic do you see the Vikings actually making 384 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: draft day trades with players already on this roster. Yeah, 385 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: that's an interesting one. I mean, just to circle back 386 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: to Josh Oliver, I know that since that was the 387 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: first signing, I saw a lot of like what a 388 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 1: blocking tight end is the first signing. But I think 389 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: that when you go back and look at tight ends, 390 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: and this is one thing I've been thinking about a lot, 391 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: is how teams acquire certain positions. Like we were just 392 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: talking about veteran corners after the draft. They're always there 393 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: and sometimes they're great. Like I don't know, I don't 394 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 1: know how to predict that because from year to year 395 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: cornerback play can really go up and down. Another interesting 396 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: trend is that tight ends a lot of times when 397 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: you draft them, you draft them for the next team 398 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: that signs them after their first contract, and that's when 399 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: they become a good player. And I was having a 400 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 1: conversation at the combine with a perspective tight end last year, 401 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: and he was saying, like, it's the hardest position, or 402 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: at least other than quarterback, because or a blocker, you're 403 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: a receiver. There's so much to master, and a lot 404 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 1: of these guys are gigantic dudes, and so there's so 405 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: much detail in small spaces and everything. So with Josh Oliver, 406 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: he was a receiving tight end in college, Like, did 407 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: they just see something there? Not only that they can 408 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: use him to improve the run game and maybe to 409 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: make life difficult more difficult on personnel like shout out 410 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 1: Gary Kubiak, this was always his thing, right Byron Chamberlain 411 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: and Shannon Sharpe out there, We're going to run two 412 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: tight ends, two receivers and hand the ball off to 413 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: Terrell Davis. So I think that they want to add 414 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: that extra sort of tool in the bag with Josh Oliver. 415 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: But it's also interesting that, like Hawkinson doesn't have an 416 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: extension yet, so are you kind of looking for somebody 417 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: that if that doesn't work out? Anyway, I liked it 418 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 1: on numerous levels, and I thought that the initial contract 419 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: that was put out there was not really the contract 420 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: which does happen. But to your point, trades on draft Day, 421 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: I feel like have been a thing that have increased recently. 422 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: And maybe this is recency bias because what last year 423 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: there was a couple Hollywood Brown went for a first 424 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: round pick on draft night, which was insane, But you 425 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: know only that we none of us saw that coming, right, 426 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: They're going to trade a starting wide receiver on draft night? 427 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: And so I think it is altogether possible that you know, 428 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: if something is percolating, was Zadarius Smith or Delvin Cook, 429 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: that it could come to fruition either on draft Day 430 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: or there because you're talking about wanting to get that 431 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: immediate draft capital. But I also know that front offices 432 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: do so much work that are you going to go 433 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: into the front office and be like, yeah, we gave 434 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: away some of our picks that you guys kind of 435 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: had your heart set on this or that player on 436 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: your draft board. But there has to be something with 437 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: those guys. They don't have to trade them. But you 438 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: can't go into a season with a million dollars of 439 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: cap space. You just can't do that. So something still 440 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: has to shift around on this team for them to 441 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: make late acquisitions. And one of those options could be 442 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: draft day trades, and besides that, you've also you know, 443 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: you've got to sign your rookie draft class, you have 444 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: to sign your rookie free agents. There's just the whole thing. 445 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, they're everything lines up at this point that 446 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: something else is going to have to happen when it 447 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: comes to that one thing I was thinking about when 448 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: he brought up the whole tight end thing, the idea 449 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 1: as well. Think about a guy like Tyler Conklin. He 450 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,719 Speaker 1: was a perfect example of that where he, you know, 451 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: was asked to step in and really shined out and 452 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,479 Speaker 1: then went to the Jets, and so those kind of 453 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 1: positions I think, whether it's tight end or even at 454 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: times you'll see that happen with some secondary guys or 455 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: even linebackers as well, the same kind of thing where 456 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: they'll play special teams, they'll look like they're doing well, 457 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: they get that second contract chance, and then all of 458 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 1: a sudden, they just take off. And so yeah, I 459 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: am curious to see as far as who potentially on 460 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 1: this team would do that. And you know, like you 461 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: guys are just saying, he's a prime candidate to be 462 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: able to do this, and if he has that receiving 463 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 1: tight end background from previous It's not like you just 464 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: kind of shut that off. But I would be curious 465 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: to see if you'd potentially have run double tight, you know, 466 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: and then have that ability to go you know, five 467 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: wide kind of a thing where it would give you 468 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: more flexibility within your different sets to try to figure 469 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 1: out is this a run play as this pass pro 470 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: or is this you know all go. So I'm interested 471 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: to see how they how they use Josh Oliver because 472 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: Josh has a he has athleticism similar to an IRV 473 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: Smith junior, but he's a better blocker than nerves. He's 474 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 1: way bigger. Yeah, and I'm the biggest Earth Smith junior fan. 475 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: But when you look at just the highlight tape and 476 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: just availability just start there, you look at Josh Oliver 477 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: and say, Okay, well this is a guy that you 478 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: can do multiple things with. So I'm interested to see 479 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: what the running back position looks like like this offseason. 480 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: If that's Dolphin Cook, how does that incorporate Josh Oliver. 481 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: I remember talking to Quacy earlier this year and he says, 482 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: Josh Oliver is going to make Justin Jefferson better. So 483 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: how does that happen. What are they going to do there? 484 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: What it's what dynamic of Josh Oliver's game makes this 485 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 1: entire offense better. So it'll be interesting. But I also 486 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: do think draft makes all this come to fruition. Yeah, 487 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: And there's so much around this whole conversation that just 488 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: is all centralized on how do you make teams pay 489 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: for it if they double Justin Jefferson because last year 490 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: they simply did not do that enough. They didn't do 491 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 1: it enough with secondary receivers, they didn't do it enough 492 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: with the running game that I think that the Bills 493 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: game was the last hundred yard rushing game Dalvin Cookhead. 494 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: And if teams are playing in the parking lot because 495 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: they're afraid of Justin Jefferson, you have to be able 496 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: to run the Yeah. I mean when you look at 497 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 1: some of the advanced metrics on their rushing, it was 498 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: just very poor. I mean, it was one of the 499 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 1: worst running games in the league. And so I think 500 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: what we've seen is them try to address that in 501 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: a couple of different ways. But the Josh Oliver pick 502 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: up I think is the biggest one, and then keeping CJ. 503 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: Hamm is another one where you can see them saying, 504 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna put two receivers on the field, 505 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: but we're gonna put all these big people too, so 506 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: you have fewer dudes that can double justin Jefferson, and 507 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: maybe you have to bring us safety up to the 508 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: box because we are plowing your face in with the 509 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: running game. And now bringing back Alexander Madison's an interesting 510 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: part of that as well, because I think that there's 511 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: always been more there with Alexander Madison, but opportunity has 512 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: not been And maybe they see it the same way 513 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 1: if they do decide to move on from Dalvin Cook, 514 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 1: that they feel like Madison when he does play, has 515 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: been a really good player for them for years. I 516 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: remember last year some people were talking about, like, oh, 517 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 1: should they they trade him because ty Chandler had a 518 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: good preseason. Like, I don't think you trade good players. 519 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: You trade players that you don't want, not players that 520 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 1: you want to keep in that are good. Yeah, yeah, 521 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: I mean unless but even then, like, would you trust 522 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: the rookie backup who had fifteen carries in the preseason 523 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: to be Delvin's backup in a win now type of year? 524 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: Probably not, But you know, I think that it does 525 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: make sense if they were to move on from Delvin 526 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 1: Cook to bring in one of these, like dynamic playmaker 527 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: running backs in the middle rounds. That I don't think 528 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: drafting running backs in the first is the greatest idea, 529 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: just there's a lot of value issues there. But in 530 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: the third, in the fourth. I mean, you've seen lots 531 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: of stars come from the middle rounds. So if you 532 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: were talking about a backfield of one proven back and 533 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: then other guys that have explosiveness and histories to suggest 534 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 1: they could be your sort of next Bell cow back, 535 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: that's a good way to approach it. And I think 536 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: they need to. I do think that they need to 537 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 1: improve that running game to have an elite offense as 538 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: opposed to just good. The crazy thing about running backs, though, 539 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: is to think about how much this league has changed 540 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: in the last ten to fifteen years, where the amount 541 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: of top end running backs were going for a second 542 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: round and now just the way that the league has changed, 543 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 1: how much that's flipped. I remember when Madison got drafted. 544 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: I was a big fan of his coming out of college, 545 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: just watching his games and Boise State nut just in general. 546 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: And part of that was because of watching When you 547 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,719 Speaker 1: know Boise State beat the Adrian Peterson Oklahoma Sooners. But 548 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: I paid attention to him since then and when he 549 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: was there. The thing that I loved when he came 550 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: out of college was he was he was aggressive and 551 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: also his athleticism hurdling people and everything. Yes, I know, 552 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 1: coaches you scream at you don't leave your feet, but 553 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: for a guy like that, when he makes those kind 554 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: of plays, it's fun, it's exciting, and it just shows 555 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: you how much this guy, you know, loves to play 556 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: and compete and how athletic he is. So I'm hoping that, 557 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,719 Speaker 1: you know, if he does get to the point here 558 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 1: now with the next contract, extra motivated and when he 559 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: does get out there, just to be able to utilize 560 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: that athleticism and his excitement to be able to you know, 561 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: help this team for sure. Coler, Before we get out 562 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: of here, what are just realistic expectations for this Minnesota 563 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 1: Vikings team leaving the draft. I think that you want 564 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: to come out of the draft either feeling one of 565 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: two ways. One that you have your next franchise quarterback. 566 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: I mean that would be ideal. You know, I don't know, 567 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: we never know what's going to happen. With the quarterbacks. 568 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: Last year certainly proved that to us that even if 569 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: we try to prognosticate through the roof, sometimes somebody that 570 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: we all had higher on draft boards doesn't end up 571 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 1: being taken, or somebody surprises us, like the year Daniel 572 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: Jones went what sixth overall? Boot this game a gigantic contract. Yeah, 573 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: and a lot of people still boot a playoff. And 574 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: there's so much evidence to suggest that we really don't 575 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: know when it comes to the quarterbacks. So if they 576 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: were to take a Hendon Hooker or Will Levis or 577 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: somebody like that, if they love them and they decide 578 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: that they all got together and said this is our guy, 579 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: that's a that's a w that you come out with 580 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: an idea of who's your quarterback for twenty twenty four, 581 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: knowing the situation with Kirk's contract, I don't know how 582 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: realistic that is. So if you come out with feeling 583 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 1: like you have either enhanced what Brian Flores can do 584 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: and gotten pieces for the defensive future, even if it's 585 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: lacking a sexiness element, but there are pass rushers as 586 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: well that could be good choices. Knowing that there are 587 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: guys who are who have unclear futures, or if you 588 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: come out saying we're going to pair Jordan Addison or 589 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 1: Quinton Johnston or whoever the guy is with Justin Jefferson, 590 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: we know who that is because right now, and this 591 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: is not a slight to kJ Osborne, who had another 592 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 1: good season last year, but right now, there isn't a 593 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: three deep. There's a oh my gosh, one guy, and 594 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: then there's this guy's pretty good and I don't really know. 595 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 1: So if you come out of it and there really 596 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: aren't free agents that are going to change the game 597 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: there either. So I think that there are multiple different 598 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: avenues that you could say would be a success for 599 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: them and would make a lot of sense. There are 600 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: some that would make way more national headlines than others, 601 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: but I think that there's a lot of different ways 602 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 1: you can do the best you can with the draft 603 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: capital that you have. My biggest, I guess offseason loss 604 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: that we had as far as personnel was Tomlinson and 605 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: losing kind of that defensive line anchor that we had 606 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: had from before. That is something that I am curious 607 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: to see and Draft night if something like that gets addressed. 608 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: As well, having somebody that has a young proven. You 609 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: can't hardly say that because it just coming out of college. 610 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: But somebody that people are really excited about that can 611 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: help with that defensive line, because I think there are 612 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: multiple games last year where we looked at it, gone, man, 613 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: they're getting two three four yards just a push, and 614 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: so there was already a concern with that position, and 615 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: now you lose a guy like Tomlinson to Cleveland and 616 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: you're just hoping, you know, you can find somebody again 617 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: to jump in and be an anchor like that for 618 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: the future. Yeah, it's interesting, like how many different arguments 619 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: you can make and sound like you have a good case. 620 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: And that's another one. I think with this draft in particular, 621 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: there's like two or three interior rushers. That's what I 622 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: think has been missing for this team. Like Tomlinson was 623 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: actually good last year rushing the passer, which I don't 624 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: think that they even expected when they signed him, but 625 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: he developed that and did a story about that once 626 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: about how he developed that skill. But they haven't had 627 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: a Sharif Floyd. They have not had even a Tom Johnson, 628 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: who's that rotational guy who comes in, and I think 629 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: that that's been missing for them. And I don't know 630 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: that Dean Lowry brings that on the top level. I 631 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: think at his best he can be pretty good at it, 632 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: but it is a missing spot. That's why a lot 633 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: of this is situational. So if Kalijah Cancy from pitt 634 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: who is undersized but has incredible athleticism and a great 635 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: track record, if he's there and they take him, like, well, 636 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: you can't argue with that, you know what I mean. 637 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: There's there's a lot of different ways that they can 638 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: go where you would say like, oh, okay, well that guy, 639 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: then that's the type of prospect that you want to take. 640 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: But I agree with you that that interior defensive line. Again, 641 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: Dean Lowry a good player. He's harassed the Vikings in 642 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: the past. Delvin Thomlinson. You saw what he got paid, Like, 643 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: there's a lot of respect for him in the league 644 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: and that is a big loss. He had seven knockdowns 645 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: in twelve games last year, so that kind of quarterback knockdown. 646 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: So I mean, she's getting to the quarterback and for 647 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: me it was one he did get paid. You're like, 648 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: I can't be mad at you because you know that 649 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: was one of those things. You saw the numbers and 650 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: you're just like, you know, he earned every penny of 651 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: that thing, and good for him to be able to 652 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: get it. The one question I do have for you, though, 653 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: is somewhat putting you on the spot of is there 654 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: a player that is a kind of Aaron Rodgers style, 655 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: that is, somebody that could possibly be a top five 656 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: ish pick or something that might drop to the back 657 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: end of that first round that you think could be 658 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: there for the Vikings. Yeah, I mean, are we talking 659 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: quarterback or just like anything, like, is there anyone that 660 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: you you know, everyone is hyping up, like all of 661 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks and even you know, top end pass rusher 662 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: type people. Is there anyone that you really think at 663 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: this point that might just sink to that twenties and 664 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: low thirties positions that you go, man, that would be 665 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: a steal for the Vikings. Yeah. I don't know if 666 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,479 Speaker 1: it's the right steal for the Vikings, but I think 667 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: the guys who are the biggest candidates to drop are 668 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: Will Levis and Jalen Carter. Jalen Carter's off field stuff 669 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: is very very concerning. Yeah, and then you watch him 670 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: and like, well, he was unbelievable at football, so he 671 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: kind of like, well, what is you know, how do 672 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: you balance? Yeah? How do you balance all that stuff? 673 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: But if he drops the twenty three, like, are you saying, well, okay, 674 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: we gotta take him, or are you saying he drops 675 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: so far with that talent that you don't want to 676 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: take him will Levis, I mean he could be like 677 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: a Christian Hackenburg or something where this the sort of 678 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,719 Speaker 1: the outside world thought little look at this armed strength 679 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: and everything else. But the NFL was a little less 680 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: high on him. I mean even Malik Willis last year. 681 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: You're we're seeing the mock drafters. I'm sorry about this game, 682 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: but the mock draft attack, right, they were, they were 683 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: just blow blown up with you know, the Lions should 684 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: take him at two fourth round, right, I've never seen 685 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,719 Speaker 1: that big of a gap ever. Yes, so, but I 686 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: think as far as the Vikings go, where they could 687 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: potentially take advantage, I think is the cornerback group because 688 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: there are three or even four guys who are kind 689 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: of projected in that top area and usually they don't 690 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: get that many taken like that. So if it's a 691 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: Joey Porter junior or something, he's being projected top five, 692 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: top ten, But you also have Christian Gonzales, you also 693 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: have Witherspoon, Like, Okay, we got too many guys here 694 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: to all be taken in this area, so if one drops, 695 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: you could be talking about getting like a good, really 696 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: good prospect that maybe is better than where he's taken. 697 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: Is there any feel that Anthony Richardson turns into the 698 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: Malik Willis from this draft. I don't think there's a 699 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: comparison there. I really don't know that. I know they're 700 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: just different statues. My whole thought on that though, is 701 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: I mean, he is the guy that, in my opinion, 702 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: has risen the most given all of the offseason stuff, workouts, 703 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: combine everything, like, he has skyrocketed to that top end 704 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: of the draft at this point. He's a guy that 705 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: I am curious to see, like does that fit the 706 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: bill or is this the hype train going on? Oh 707 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: so I'm completely buying that Anthony Richardson is like a 708 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: truly elite prospect over the last like ten years. Yeah, 709 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think we've seen a quarterback like 710 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: Hampson's what Cam Newton? Maybe? Really? I mean, if you 711 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: look at like there are objective ways to look at 712 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: the combine performances, but relative athletics scores is one that 713 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: I look at all the time. Cam Newton was a 714 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: hundredth percentile, and so is Anthony Richardson, and there's like 715 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: almost nobody else who really even enters that ballpark. The 716 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: other thing, too, is interesting about Richardson. It's very different 717 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: about him versus Malie willis well one playing experience. I 718 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: mean think about that, Like Lamar Jackson was not good 719 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: in his first year starting, but then he started two 720 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,919 Speaker 1: more college years and developed, and Anthony Richardson started one year. 721 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: He was also a tremendous deep passer, which matters a lot. Yeah, 722 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: and he didn't take sacks, And that's one of the 723 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: crazy things that you know this about Malik Wills took 724 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: sacks all the time. I think it matters a lot 725 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: to NFL teams how a guy hits the backfoot gets 726 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: rid of the ball, and he was actually very good 727 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 1: at getting rid of the ball. I thought that his 728 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: leadership at Florida, like that program was kind of in 729 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: the tank, and he made them more relevant. They didn't 730 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 1: have a great team around him. Like there's a lot 731 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: of things that I'm buying about Anthony Richardson that maybe 732 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: were there, but we overlooked them about Malie Willis, you 733 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: know what I mean? So Yeah, but would anything in 734 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: the draft truly surprise us? Like No, West year's quarterback 735 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 1: draft was not as strong as this year. So the 736 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: fact that we have a strong quarterback draft and you're 737 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: still mentioning Anthony Richardson that that kind of says a 738 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: lot about the value that he will probably bring a 739 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: team in year one. I'm done being shocked about anything 740 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 1: in the draft. With two words, Laramie Tunsel, like anything 741 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: can happen, You're just saying anything can happen on Draft night, 742 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,720 Speaker 1: and I think that's why people love it so much. Yeah. Well, 743 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,439 Speaker 1: whether you are in Kansas City on April twenty seven, 744 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,439 Speaker 1: you can be right here at us Bank Stadium because 745 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: the Vikings are having a watch party at six pm 746 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be a lot of fun things going on. 747 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: There's gonna be a Vikings player photo session, there's gonna 748 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: be locker room tours, Mystic Lake, Blackjack, I Live DJ, 749 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: so many other fan experiences for people that are going 750 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 1: to be there. So go to Vikings dot com, slash 751 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: us Bank Draft Party and get your tickets because it 752 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 1: will be a heck of a show, and today was 753 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: a heck of a show with my guy, Matthew Kler. 754 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 1: Never a dull moment with you. Appreciate your time today. 755 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,800 Speaker 1: Go follow him right now on Twitter at Matthew Koler 756 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: just m A T T E W CLLR. Or you 757 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 1: can follow Purple Insider on Twitter. Love it, Jay Nelson, 758 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: always a pleasure man. Glad to be back. This is 759 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: my first podcast in a while, so glad to be 760 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 1: back in the podcast room with you. Glad heavy back 761 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,479 Speaker 1: and thank you both. A great show. Thanks for having me, guys,