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Speaker 1: a while. The actor Kevin James a little later on,
Speaker 1: he's portraying, well, he's going to be portraying Sean Payton
Speaker 1: in a movie. But we talked to him prior to
Speaker 1: Sean Payton stepping down from the Saints. But it's about
Speaker 1: the last time that Sean Payton was asked to step
Speaker 1: away from the Saints and coach his son's sixth grade
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Speaker 1: broke some news he is the insider for the NFL
Speaker 1: Network that the Packers offensive coordinator is now the new
Speaker 1: head coach to the Broncos, Nathaniel Hackett. Tom will join
Speaker 1: us coming up and we'll ask him, do we connect
Speaker 1: the dots here that you hire the Packers offensive coordinator?
Speaker 1: And it's been long rumored that if Aaron Rodgers was
Speaker 1: leaving Green Bay Denver would be the destination. He'll join us.
Speaker 1: Coming up, also, is Byron Leftwich going to get the
Speaker 1: head coaching job at the Jaguars. It felt like Nathaniel
Speaker 1: Hackett was maybe going in for another interview in Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: and that's when Denver swooped in to say, no, not
Speaker 1: so fast, come on out here, come on out to Denver.
Speaker 1: And we're getting closer to lockdown day, and we thought
Speaker 1: maybe we'd have a couple coaching hires here over the
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Speaker 1: times what we do is you'll see the name and
Speaker 1: the title the team that he's been with the team
Speaker 1: he might be going to the relationship there, whether it's
Speaker 1: a general manager and a coach, maybe it's a quarterback
Speaker 1: and an offensive coordinator. We try to connect the dots.
Speaker 1: Sometimes we do it too quickly, but the dots with Denver,
Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers have been there for quite some time.
Speaker 1: And I'll go back to when Von Miller was traded.
Speaker 1: Even prior to that, I was told by a source saying, hey,
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers going to green Bay. Green Bay will probably
Speaker 1: not ask for players in return, They'll ask for draft picks.
Speaker 1: And I'll go back to the night of the draft.
Speaker 1: Denver was on the clock and we got the sense
Speaker 1: that maybe Aaron Rodgers was going to be traded right then.
Speaker 1: And Mark Slaret, the former Denver Bronco offensive lineman, he
Speaker 1: expected Rogers to be traded that night. So then they
Speaker 1: take a defensive player, and then we thought, Okay, that's interesting.
Speaker 1: Are they still going to trade for Aaron Rodgers if
Speaker 1: that happens, if Aaron Rodgers leaves from what I was
Speaker 1: told how many months ago, when Von Miller was traded,
Speaker 1: even prior to that, if Aaron Rodgers goes there, Dallas
Speaker 1: is so good with draft picks, they would want draft
Speaker 1: picks in return. Sometimes we'll look at a team and
Speaker 1: go green Bay would want draft picks in return. But
Speaker 1: a lot of times we'll look at these teams and say, boy,
Speaker 1: look at that lineup Aaron Rodgers would be walking into.
Speaker 1: That doesn't stop Green Bay from saying, you know what
Speaker 1: we want, Jerry Judy. But also understand this, Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: is not a free agent. Everybody makes this seem like
Speaker 1: he's free He can just keep going right out the door. Now.
Speaker 1: If he wants to retire, that's his decision. But Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers can't just join the Denver Broncos. There has to
Speaker 1: be a deal in place. It's like if Sean Payton
Speaker 1: were to go to another team, there has to be
Speaker 1: a deal in place. He's under contract with the Saints
Speaker 1: and we might hear from coach. Now he could quit
Speaker 1: and say he's going to go into the media, and
Speaker 1: then I don't know how that works out that a
Speaker 1: year after going into the media, can you go to
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. There are other teams interested in Sean Payton.
Speaker 1: Let's not kid anybody here he will have an opportunity
Speaker 1: to be in the booth or being in a studio.
Speaker 1: I'm sure, but I still get the feeling. I'm just
Speaker 1: looking at the timing of this. If I look at
Speaker 1: Sean Payton, not sure what he's going to do, Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys don't give a ringing endorsement to Mike McCarthy now,
Speaker 1: and I know that Jerry Jones loves Sean Payton. If
Speaker 1: you're Jerry Jones at his age, once and desperately once
Speaker 1: another or Super Bowl? Why wait another year? How can
Speaker 1: I get him? What's it gonna cost? There's no salary
Speaker 1: cap for a head coach, but you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: trade him. And Jerry is in his late eighties, No, Jared,
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones turns eighty eighty all right, Well, his face
Speaker 1: looks a little younger there, but he's eighty years of age.
Speaker 1: But he wants to win. He wants to win another
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. But if you have Sean Payton, you don't
Speaker 1: want to wait. And that opportunity to get Sean Payton, now,
Speaker 1: what do you give the New Orleans Saints. That's the
Speaker 1: curiosity here. The Cowboys left this open to interpretation because
Speaker 1: right after the game, Jerry was asked about Mike McCarthy's future.
Speaker 1: He said, now, now's not the time to be discussing this.
Speaker 1: What owner says this now. His son was a little
Speaker 1: more positive, a little bit more forthcoming about Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: coming back. But Mike McCarthy doesn't know what his future is.
Speaker 1: He probably probably thinks, hey, I'm I'm coming back. Why
Speaker 1: wouldn't I be coming a back? Jerry Jones is a billionaire.
Speaker 1: When a billionaire has a whim, that's when you have
Speaker 1: to be careful because they can be dangerous. But Jerry
Speaker 1: doesn't have to answer to anybody. All he has to
Speaker 1: do is go, hey, what's it gonna take to get
Speaker 1: Sean to join us as our head coach? And it
Speaker 1: depending on what the Saints want. Do you want money,
Speaker 1: you want draft picks, you want a player? What do
Speaker 1: you want? I'll buy you one of those Jumbo trials. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like ours. Yeah, try not to make it hang
Speaker 1: too low, to be too big. But if I'm the
Speaker 1: Cowboys and I'm Jerry Jones, I know Sean Payton said
Speaker 1: he wanted to step away for a little while, I'd
Speaker 1: be I'd be all in on Sean Payton. And I
Speaker 1: think that Jerry Jones, that that's got to be front
Speaker 1: and center just the time of it. You lose, the Saints,
Speaker 1: don't make the playoffs, they get nine wins, salary cap hell,
Speaker 1: don't like the quarterbacking situation. Here's Jerry maybe not sold
Speaker 1: on Mike McCarthy. You got this opportunity, you should still
Speaker 1: be playing. In his mind, let's get an offensive minded guy,
Speaker 1: one of the brightest offensive minds that we've seen in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Now we can get him. What's it gonna cost.
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about a salary. I'm if they want
Speaker 1: draft picks, give them draft picks. Who cares. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be eighty years of age. I don't take my draft picks.
Speaker 1: I don't care. But you want money, I'll give you money.
Speaker 1: I want Sean Payton. Yeah. See, it feels like things
Speaker 1: are a little out of order. Though with this. They
Speaker 1: very rarely do you know the next head coach before
Speaker 1: you fired the current head coach. And I don't know
Speaker 1: how that goes over in NFL coaching communities, where it's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're getting John Payton before we fired Mike McCarthy. That
Speaker 1: feels like a pretty big no. No, I just go
Speaker 1: with the timing of it. Looks odd, just looks odd,
Speaker 1: and knowing that Jerry thinks that highly of Sean Payton.
Speaker 1: And if you're Sean Payton, do you want to go
Speaker 1: into the You can always go into the booth. But
Speaker 1: what if Mike McCarthy somehow stumbles to a thirteen and
Speaker 1: four record and they go to the NFC title game
Speaker 1: next year? I mean, well, Cowboy fans love that, sure,
Speaker 1: But if you're Sean Payton, the opportunity to coach the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, that'd be a full circle because he was
Speaker 1: there a long time ago. And I wouldn't I wouldn't
Speaker 1: rule that out. It's like if you said, Okay, Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers to the Broncos, I wouldn't rule it out. Do
Speaker 1: I think Aaron stays in Green Bay? I don't. I
Speaker 1: think he should. I think he has a better chance
Speaker 1: of winning if he stays there. But who knows what
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers thought process is. But I think sometimes when
Speaker 1: we go these guys need to step away a little bit.
Speaker 1: Do you think Tom Brady knows what he's doing? I do.
Speaker 1: Do you think Aaron Rodgers knows what he's doing. I do.
Speaker 1: Do you think Sean Payton knows what he wants to do?
Speaker 1: I do. This isn't something that just comes up where
Speaker 1: you go, I'll wait, season's over? What am I? What
Speaker 1: am I gonna? I'm gonna quit this since ah season's
Speaker 1: over and we lost again, I'm leaving the Packers. And
Speaker 1: I think you give great thought to this. Tom Brady
Speaker 1: has given thought to this. I don't think he's going
Speaker 1: and season's over? What am I gonna do? What's my
Speaker 1: next chapter? These guys don't get it, get this far
Speaker 1: and this successful without thinking these things through. But you know,
Speaker 1: the Packers losing their offensive coordinator to the Broncos, what
Speaker 1: does it mean? I think it gives a bigger picture
Speaker 1: here of Aaron Rodgers going there, assuming he gets along
Speaker 1: with Nathaniel Hackett. I don't know Byron left to it
Speaker 1: to the Jags. I get that. I think that's a
Speaker 1: that would be a great hire. But it's not done yet.
Speaker 1: But left which you go there, you have your quarterback,
Speaker 1: and whatever you do in that first year has got
Speaker 1: to be better than what urban Meyer did in his
Speaker 1: first year. The bar is really low. The coachless teams Bears, Dolphins, Giants, Jags, Raiders, Saints, Texans,
Speaker 1: and the Vikings. Amazing. So Tom Pella Sarah will join us.
Speaker 1: Coming up, we'll settle on a poll question. Fritzee, what
Speaker 1: poll question do you have for me? Today? We are
Speaker 1: going to roll out Broncos hiring the Packers offensive coordinator
Speaker 1: means Denver will acquire Aaron Rodgers or nothing. I'll say
Speaker 1: that they acquire Aaron Rodgers. I don't know if they
Speaker 1: needed to have the offensive coordinator become the head coach,
Speaker 1: but I do think that that if Aaron Rodgers once
Speaker 1: familiaritys what he saw. But I don't even know. Nathaniel
Speaker 1: Hackett didn't call the plays in Green Bay, But wasn't
Speaker 1: that a negative with Eric b Enemy Remember then he
Speaker 1: didn't call the plays in Kansas City? Won't Matt Nage
Speaker 1: didn't either. He got a head coaching job. Another offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator doesn't call play, he gets a job. Maybe maybe
Speaker 1: that's enough for Aaron Rodgers to go, Hey, I like
Speaker 1: this guy, and I think we got something special there.
Speaker 1: The question is, you can't just sign Aaron Rodgers. You
Speaker 1: got a trade for Aaron Rodgers, and I'm sure the
Speaker 1: Packers want to send him to the AFC, but we'll
Speaker 1: talk to Tom Pellicero about that. I did watch some
Speaker 1: basketball last night. The Phoenix Suns took down the Utah Jazz.
Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell didn't play in that game, but Devin Booker
Speaker 1: was wonderful to watch. But I'm gonna go back to
Speaker 1: what I said about the Phoenix Suns and Chris. He's
Speaker 1: thirty six years of age. This is a young man's game.
Speaker 1: But he had fifteen points in the final twelve minutes.
Speaker 1: Phoenix has one eight in a row. But just watching
Speaker 1: you know, when you watch intelligence, a lot of times
Speaker 1: you can listen to intelligence. When you watch intelligence, it's different.
Speaker 1: And I was watching Intelligence last night with Chris Paul.
Speaker 1: It's just getting from point A to point B and
Speaker 1: then what do you do? And he's out. He has
Speaker 1: to outthink you because he doesn't jump through the roof.
Speaker 1: He's not John Morant, not fast. Maybe quick doesn't jump
Speaker 1: on its jumper. But this ability to find his spots,
Speaker 1: and I mentioned this yesterday. He just reminds me of
Speaker 1: that rain drop when it's raining and it goes down
Speaker 1: your windshield and you don't know where it's going. But
Speaker 1: he does. He knows where he's going, and he's not
Speaker 1: moving fast, but he moves efficiently, intelligently. And if you
Speaker 1: ever want to just watch a pure point guard, because
Speaker 1: that's what Chris is, just watch the Phoenix Huns and
Speaker 1: watch what he does. Devin Booker's wonderful, wonderful, and he
Speaker 1: had forty three last night. But watching watching this kind
Speaker 1: of basketball, I love watching smart basketball. Now, there's athleticism,
Speaker 1: but there's also That's why when you add intelligence IQ
Speaker 1: to Magic Johnson or Isaiah Thomas or Michael Jordan, then
Speaker 1: that's where it's not fair. Where they have athleticism and
Speaker 1: then they have basketball IQ and you go, oh boy,
Speaker 1: and that's what those three had. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: players who have that, the athleticism. Then you throw in
Speaker 1: the IQ, and then that's when you have a very
Speaker 1: very special player. Yes see, we're discussing that they might
Speaker 1: be the rush of basketball. Oh the Suns. It's very Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's very smart rebrul Yeah, it's just smart music. You're
Speaker 1: not really sure where the hell this song is going,
Speaker 1: but it's gonna eventually end. Okay, So Chris Paul like
Speaker 1: Getty Lee, Getty Lee like not the classic front man.
Speaker 1: Uh not, you know, easy on the eyes is like
Speaker 1: not Gavin Rossdale. Devin Booker might be the m hm.
Speaker 1: Who's the drummer? Neil Neil Neil par Parrot might be
Speaker 1: the Neil Parrot late Neil Parrot. Piert Pierrot, Piert, I
Speaker 1: always have the rush Piers who correct me, It's not purred,
Speaker 1: it's Pierred, Okay, Piert Piered. Um. So the Phoenix suns
Speaker 1: are the rush of bounce. We're work shopping it a
Speaker 1: little undercovered, underrespected. M hmm, it's new no, no, no
Speaker 1: one is we If Greeney takes this one, get up,
Speaker 1: then I'll know. I was just thinking, you know, are
Speaker 1: the Milwaukee Bucks the stick? By the way, did you
Speaker 1: see who beat the Milwaukee Bucks last night? Hello Cleveland Cavaliers,
Speaker 1: Let's go. Yes, you are so early on this. I
Speaker 1: am plenty of seeds still available. Darius Garland playing well,
Speaker 1: Evan Mobley they got They're a fun team. Kevin Love
Speaker 1: coming off the bench. I have to be the only
Speaker 1: member of the media who watches the Cleveland Cavaliers other
Speaker 1: than those who have to watch. I get to watch
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Cavaliers at night. Yes, hunt, but not to
Speaker 1: disrespect the Cavaliers. Is that just another example of how
Speaker 1: it's all about the playoffs, overlooking teams not necessarily giving
Speaker 1: it your full hundred percent shot, Or am I disrespecting Cleveland?
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter to me. Like the Bucks did try
Speaker 1: to win, I don't think they went. You know, let's
Speaker 1: let the cute little Cavaliers get a win here. They
Speaker 1: may not have played with playoff intensity, but the Cavaliers
Speaker 1: won the game. They beat him. Yeah, your calves are
Speaker 1: the three seed, the Nets and the Bucks are five
Speaker 1: seed six or the sixth seed. Yeah, it's early, It
Speaker 1: is early, all right, We'll take a break. Tom Pala
Speaker 1: Serah will join us. Get his thoughts on the breaking news,
Speaker 1: the story that he broke about Nathaniel Hackett joining the
Speaker 1: Broncos as their head coach coaching, what that means for
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers And are we just waiting for Sean Payton
Speaker 1: to join the Cowboys or maybe it's too obvious? Tom
Speaker 1: will join is coming up next phone calls as well.
Speaker 1: We settled on our poll question back after this and
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Speaker 1: been in contact with Sean Payton. He may join us
Speaker 1: a little bit later on today. I watched a lot
Speaker 1: of basketball last night. I watched the Hornets. I was
Speaker 1: watching the Suns and the Jazz. I watched my Cavs
Speaker 1: the Bucks. I watched Luca don Chick. He had another
Speaker 1: triple double as the MAVs beat the Blazers. So watching
Speaker 1: a lot of NBA last night. Tried to watch some
Speaker 1: college basketball. I watched a little bit of Xavier and Providence.
Speaker 1: It's just tough. There's no magic with college basketball. Where
Speaker 1: you go. I gotta see this guy. There's some good players,
Speaker 1: and you know, I want to be fair to them.
Speaker 1: It's just there's not that guy or those guys or
Speaker 1: that team where you go. I gotta watch that, you know,
Speaker 1: Ucla against Arizona. All right, I'm gonna watch, and I did,
Speaker 1: But I don't, you know, I don't just don't come
Speaker 1: away with that must see basketball team or must see
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Speaker 1: We'll get phone calls. Come. Oh you knew who called in?
Speaker 1: If you're with us. In the last hour yesterday, we
Speaker 1: had a caller who was on hold for probably close
Speaker 1: to ninety minutes. Jason and Phoenix. Jason was snoring really deeply.
Speaker 1: I checked in with him a couple of times and
Speaker 1: he was still snoring. He had fallen asleep. See do
Speaker 1: we have any sound of Jason from Phoenix snoring? Jason
Speaker 1: and Phoenix joins us on the show. Hi, Jason, Jason, Jason, Well,
Speaker 1: I thought he was available. He will be, He will be.
Speaker 1: You just have to give me a minute. I thought
Speaker 1: we were being punked. Yeah I did too. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: let's see if we can get Jason on the show
Speaker 1: and we will get to your phone calls. We are
Speaker 1: having technical issues here, so this is on us here. Yes, well,
Speaker 1: it was only right if Jason fell asleep yesterday, then
Speaker 1: we'll fall asleep today. Yeah, all right, Ross Tucker, he'll
Speaker 1: join us coming up next hour. Got some football to
Speaker 1: talk to him about. Tom Palisero the NFL Network will
Speaker 1: join us coming up as well. He'll join us in
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes. Here. There's mixed reports on James
Speaker 1: Harden Could he be traded? Ben Simmons? Could he be traded?
Speaker 1: I don't think either is traded at the trade deadline.
Speaker 1: Feels like the seventy Sixers gonna wait till the off
Speaker 1: season for James Harden, and feels like Ben Simmons is
Speaker 1: going to be traded in the off season as well.
Speaker 1: The seventy sixers, you know, feels like they'll try to
Speaker 1: make that choice decision to go after James Harden because
Speaker 1: Daryl Morey loves James Harden, and I think they were
Speaker 1: pretty firm and looking at Ben Simmons and saying Ben
Speaker 1: is not going to play for this team this year. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was reading the stories and watching the cover yesterday
Speaker 1: to James Harden. Does he want to be traded and
Speaker 1: the Nets don't want to trade him? Is that kind
Speaker 1: of the feel um? I don't know if that's the
Speaker 1: I don't know because I don't know. I don't have
Speaker 1: a source on this. He made it sound yesterday like
Speaker 1: he wanted to be elsewhere. Didn't he fight hard to
Speaker 1: get to the Nets, basically quitting on the Rockets and
Speaker 1: you know, the Nets game everything he wanted to get there.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he wants to put up with
Speaker 1: what goes on in Brooklyn. You know, Kyrie is sort
Speaker 1: of here. You know, Duran's hurt now. I think what
Speaker 1: they thought it was going to be is not as
Speaker 1: enjoyable as it is right now. And Harden has played well.
Speaker 1: But if you're Joe l Embiid, do you go man?
Speaker 1: Can't wait to have a ball hauled like James Harden
Speaker 1: joined me embiad should be the leading candidate for MVP year.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's going. Man, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'd love a guy who loves to have the basketball.
Speaker 1: But Ben Simmons, does he go to the nets? Do
Speaker 1: you trade him to the NTS? Is there anybody else
Speaker 1: who's interested in him? I mean they're trying. It's just
Speaker 1: I don't I wouldn't want him, as as talented as
Speaker 1: he is. I want to know if he wants to play.
Speaker 1: Stephen A. Smith brought up something on First Take yesterday
Speaker 1: about Kobe Bryant, and he was just talking about Kobe
Speaker 1: and what that Kobe wanted to play, he didn't want
Speaker 1: to sit out coming back from injury. And look, not
Speaker 1: everybody's wired the way Kobe is. But we make it
Speaker 1: seem like, well that was a different generation. There's only
Speaker 1: six years ago that Kobe stopped playing basketball. I mean
Speaker 1: load management and do you want to play? I mean
Speaker 1: that's what I want. I want somebody who wants to play,
Speaker 1: wants to go after it. It means something to them
Speaker 1: that's really important. And you know, I see enough of
Speaker 1: these players like John Wall doesn't play. John Wall warms up,
Speaker 1: John Wall makes forty two million dollars, John Wall doesn't
Speaker 1: want to play. I don't think. And now they're talking about, Hey,
Speaker 1: John Wall for Russell Westbrook. Boy, that'll solve everything if
Speaker 1: you're the Lakers. All right, we'll get to phone calls
Speaker 1: coming up. Tom Pellisero has been a busy guy NFL insider.
Speaker 1: You can follow him on Twitter at Tom Pelisero. And
Speaker 1: this Sunday, a special six hour edition of NFL Game
Speaker 1: Day Morning airs at nine am Eastern on the NFL Network.
Speaker 1: Tom broke the news this morning that Nathaniel Hackett, the
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator from the Packers, is going to be the
Speaker 1: head coach of the Denver Broncos. Tom, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 1: Who is Nathaniel Hackett and why did he get this job?
Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett, Dan is a fascinating. Guy's forty two years old.
Speaker 1: He's been a longtime coach, going all the way back
Speaker 1: to his days in Buffalo with the Bills, Syracuse down
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, where I was in attendance at Hinesfield after
Speaker 1: the twenty seventeen season when the Jaguars with Blake Bortles
Speaker 1: at quarterback, put up forty five points on Pittsburgh to
Speaker 1: go to the AFC Championship Game. He ended up getting
Speaker 1: dismissed there the following year amidst a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: injuries on offense, but landed in Green Bay with Matt
Speaker 1: Lafleur and Aaron Rodgers and has really flourished in his role.
Speaker 1: He's pasted several years. He's a unique individual in terms
Speaker 1: of the way that he presents. He is very into technology,
Speaker 1: he's into analytics, he's into pop culture. He finds different
Speaker 1: ways to reach this generation of players. And I don't
Speaker 1: just mean, you know, the twenty twenty one year old
Speaker 1: millennials or whatever we're calling them, but even the likes
Speaker 1: of Aaron Rodgers, who's a veteran quarterback has heard it
Speaker 1: all for twenty plus years playing football at every level,
Speaker 1: and Rogers has one of hack It's biggest fans, to
Speaker 1: the point that last year, when Hacking got his first
Speaker 1: head coach in interview with the Falcons, Aaron Rodgers called
Speaker 1: Atlanta and said, you need to hire this sky. So
Speaker 1: the fact that now he's getting the Broncos job at
Speaker 1: a time that Daniel might have heard there are some
Speaker 1: questions about where Aaron Rodgers we play in football in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, if anywhere. It's a really good fit
Speaker 1: for a bunch of different reasons. And I'll tell you this,
Speaker 1: He's so high energy. Nathaniel Hackett is nobody's gonna fall
Speaker 1: asleep in his meetings. He's going to give the most
Speaker 1: entertaining press conferences in the league. And they think he's
Speaker 1: gonna win a lot of football games for him too.
Speaker 1: But I wonder you go in in the interviewing process
Speaker 1: in Denver, does John Elway say, if we give you
Speaker 1: this job, can we get Aaron Rodgers? Like, how do
Speaker 1: you would he get this job as standalone? You get
Speaker 1: the job to be fair to his resume? And how
Speaker 1: much is the possibility of getting Aaron Rodgers attached to
Speaker 1: this wells The Broncos were going through this process and
Speaker 1: general manager George Peyton has been the one leading it.
Speaker 1: They knew that they couldn't hire a coach based solely
Speaker 1: on a contingency that may or may not happen. Of course,
Speaker 1: last year, Denver was the most linked spot to Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: Rogers at various points told people that Denver was a
Speaker 1: place he wanted to go. He may have even thought
Speaker 1: that's where he would potentially end up. And that was
Speaker 1: at a time that you had Vic Fangio as the
Speaker 1: head coach and Pat Shermer was the offensive coordinator. So
Speaker 1: now you have Hackett there, He's going to in all
Speaker 1: likelihood hire at least one Packers assistant. Adam Stenovich, who's
Speaker 1: the offensive line coach run game coordinator, really well respected,
Speaker 1: use like seventy five different old line combinations this year
Speaker 1: with Bok tr out and managed to make it work.
Speaker 1: There's going to be familiarity there with the system, with
Speaker 1: the coaches. It would only heighten the possibility that Rogers
Speaker 1: could land there. But they did a thorough search. You know,
Speaker 1: Peyton had one of the most expansive search parties. They
Speaker 1: had I think seven people who traveled around on the plane.
Speaker 1: They had other people involved on zoom. They had different
Speaker 1: perspectives from different people, and he spent time with ten
Speaker 1: different candidates during the process, almost all of them in person,
Speaker 1: which is rare because in this psyche. One thing that
Speaker 1: came out of COVID was everyone was like, Hey, the
Speaker 1: zoom thing is great, We'll just do a dozen or
Speaker 1: in the Bears case, two dozen different interviews all on zoom.
Speaker 1: Then we'll get to the second interviews. The Broncos kind
Speaker 1: of went old school. Fire up the private jet. We're
Speaker 1: going to go see Keen of these coaches go all
Speaker 1: the way literally from the East coast Sea and Drod
Speaker 1: Mayo to the West coast seeing Kevin O'Connell. But one
Speaker 1: of the first interviews that they did was Nathaniel Hackett
Speaker 1: in Green Bay. Peyton had dinner with him the night before,
Speaker 1: they spent a long time together. Hackett, after that initial interview,
Speaker 1: had so impressed them that he became one of, if
Speaker 1: not the front runner, and so he was the only
Speaker 1: one that they brought back for a second interview on Monday.
Speaker 1: There's a lot to like about Nathaniel Hackett for the
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos beyond Aaron Rodgers, though certainly the Rogers possibility
Speaker 1: is a nice piece. It feels like people aren't on
Speaker 1: the same page with Aaron Rodgers being able to leave
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers. He's not a free agent. There
Speaker 1: would have to be a trade here, And I don't
Speaker 1: even know does Aaron Rodgers have a no trade clause?
Speaker 1: He does not have a no trade clause, though effectively
Speaker 1: you have one when you're at that stage, and you
Speaker 1: could just say, if you try to trade me to
Speaker 1: you know whatever, Jacksonville, I'm just going to retire. So really,
Speaker 1: here's how it sets up to In so, they redid
Speaker 1: his contract last year, they shaved off they didn't have
Speaker 1: any new money to it, They moved some things around,
Speaker 1: but they shaved off the last year in twenty twenty three,
Speaker 1: and they added this post Super Bowl void clause that
Speaker 1: in essence means they can't tag Aaron Rodgers after the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two season either. So really there's three different
Speaker 1: avenues Rodgers can go. He could retire, that's pretty clean.
Speaker 1: The Packers would save a bunch of money on the
Speaker 1: salary cap. He could say I'm going to continue playing
Speaker 1: for the Packers, at which point, in all likelihood that
Speaker 1: would involve the Packers Naron Rodgers doing some kind of big,
Speaker 1: fully guaranteed extension that would keep him as a Packer
Speaker 1: for life. Or door number three is he could say,
Speaker 1: you know what, it's been fun. I've had a ton
Speaker 1: of success here over seventeen years, but it's time for
Speaker 1: me to do something else. The packers then at that
Speaker 1: point would have two choices themselves, one being they could say,
Speaker 1: we're not trading you. You're the Raining two time Raining
Speaker 1: NFL MVP. You're going to play out your contract here.
Speaker 1: And Rogers could say either okay, I'll do that, or I,
Speaker 1: you know, will just decide to walk away. Or the
Speaker 1: packers could go, it's in our best interest to trade
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers when he's worth more right now in terms
Speaker 1: of capital in players and picks than he ever probably
Speaker 1: will be in the rest of his career, will trade
Speaker 1: him now as opposed to he plays out his contract
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two and then at most you're getting
Speaker 1: like a fifth round compensatory pick in twenty twenty three form.
Speaker 1: So it would set up a really interesting situation. He
Speaker 1: has that control to dictate what direction, what the options are,
Speaker 1: and then the packers would have their own decision to
Speaker 1: make Yeah, I just wonder. I'm sure they want to
Speaker 1: trade him to the AFC. That sound right if you know,
Speaker 1: it's like Seattle of Seattle wants to move on from Ross.
Speaker 1: They probably want him in the AFC, not the NFC.
Speaker 1: It would make sense and just historical context, Dan I
Speaker 1: was working for the Green Bay Presscazette in two thousand
Speaker 1: and eight during the Brett Farve retirement saga, under retirement
Speaker 1: saga and all that stuff, and when he showed up
Speaker 1: in a lightning storm and a helicopter and came in
Speaker 1: in August during the Family Nights scrimmage, showed up in
Speaker 1: his luxury box during the scrimmage where Rogers getting cheered
Speaker 1: when he throws in completions and booed when he does something. Well,
Speaker 1: most bizarre scene ever. But there were two teams on
Speaker 1: Brett Farve, which were the New York Jets and the
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Brett Farve that day, after linkedy meetings
Speaker 1: with at the time Ted Thompson, Mike McCarthy left the
Speaker 1: facility thinking he's being traded to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Speaker 1: Comes to find out later that night that Ted Thompson's
Speaker 1: trading him to the New York Jets, and the Jets
Speaker 1: had to recruit him to go there. Part of that
Speaker 1: was Ted Thompson, who was one of Brian Goodacoont's mentors,
Speaker 1: did not want Brett Farve in the NFC. That's not
Speaker 1: to say that necessarily would follow the same path, but
Speaker 1: absolutely that's something that executives taken into accountant. What do
Speaker 1: you think Sean Payton's going to do. He's going to
Speaker 1: take some time way you know he was after the season.
Speaker 1: This was such a trying season for Sean Payton and
Speaker 1: the Saints. I mean, you think about everything they overcame,
Speaker 1: from being displaced by a hurricane in the early portion
Speaker 1: of the season, to Jamis Winston's injury, to other injuries,
Speaker 1: to the COVID situation where they're down to starting Ian
Speaker 1: book in a in a nationally televised game. Sean Payton
Speaker 1: was wiped out by the end of it. So, you know,
Speaker 1: shortly after the season ended, he flew down to Cabo,
Speaker 1: he played golf, he drank tequila, he thought about his future,
Speaker 1: and he came back and he just thought, I need
Speaker 1: a break. You know. In the short term, certainly he's
Speaker 1: going to have broadcast options TV options. He's you know,
Speaker 1: I think that his thirty five minute opening monologue to
Speaker 1: the press conference would probably fit better on a podcast
Speaker 1: than in the forty seconds between plays in a game.
Speaker 1: But Sean would be exceptional at doing that. You know
Speaker 1: what's gonna be one coaches because said, look, Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: is going to be eighty years of age. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: he has not. He's not given the stamp of approval
Speaker 1: for Mike McCarthy coming back. The time of this is
Speaker 1: just too strange. Why wait an extra year for Sean
Speaker 1: Payton when you could get him now, and you give
Speaker 1: the Saints money and or picks and you got your coach,
Speaker 1: a coach that you've always wanted. You never say never,
Speaker 1: because you also know that other owners are looking at
Speaker 1: this and going the time is now. If we're going
Speaker 1: to make a move for Sean Payton, we're at least
Speaker 1: going to place that phone call. I am choosing at
Speaker 1: this particular stage, and based on the emotion that we
Speaker 1: saw from Sean Payton the other day that he really is,
Speaker 1: we can take him at face value that his intention.
Speaker 1: Of course, intentions can change, but his intention is to
Speaker 1: take twenty twenty two off and then that makes him
Speaker 1: one of the most fascinating characters, not just a year
Speaker 1: from now, but really throughout this season. I mean, every
Speaker 1: time that the team is in a rut and we're
Speaker 1: talking about a coach potentially being on the hot seat,
Speaker 1: there's going to be that cloud hanging over of what
Speaker 1: might Sean Payton do. Dallas is certainly a place that
Speaker 1: he's been linked to, I don't know how many times
Speaker 1: throughout the course of his career, but there's going to
Speaker 1: be other places that potentially are going to be in
Speaker 1: that mix too. And you look at some of the
Speaker 1: teams that did not move on from their head coaches
Speaker 1: this year, and teams that did not as strongly state
Speaker 1: publicly that they're going to stick with their coach as
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones that the Cowboys did with Mike McCarthy. There's
Speaker 1: absolutely going to be some coaches who are going to
Speaker 1: be at risk of losing their jobs during next season.
Speaker 1: Sean Payton's going to be rumored for every one of
Speaker 1: those openings, and it would be organizational malpractice Dan to
Speaker 1: not make a phone call on one of the most
Speaker 1: successful coaches over the last sixteen years. Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: get a feeling that Sean Is. The timing is just interesting.
Speaker 1: I mean, you get a chance to coach the Cowboy
Speaker 1: that's different than any other coaching vacancy or potential coaching vacancy.
Speaker 1: You win in Dallas, It's like being the Cowboys quarterback.
Speaker 1: You may not be the best quarterback in football, but
Speaker 1: you're the best known. I mean, you're the Cowboys quarterback,
Speaker 1: you're the Cowboys coach. I don't know. And Jerry is
Speaker 1: desperate to get another Super Bowl at eighty years of age. Man,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. Again, I would say
Speaker 1: organizational malpractice if you're a team that's even thinking about
Speaker 1: making a coaching change to not place a call on
Speaker 1: Sean Payton. At the same time, I would tell you
Speaker 1: the support from the Joneses for Mike McCarthy and his
Speaker 1: staff is probably stronger internally than it's perceived to be externally.
Speaker 1: They went from six and ten in his first year
Speaker 1: to twelve and five this season. They obviously made leaps,
Speaker 1: they weren't consistent enough offensively. The penalties were a problem
Speaker 1: in the playoff game, as they were throughout the course
Speaker 1: of the season, and they had some frankly strange stuff
Speaker 1: happened with a play that they've rehearsed a million times
Speaker 1: over and now has become this supposed example of that
Speaker 1: they don't they're poorly coached and everything else. They practiced
Speaker 1: that every Friday. It's the same scenario. They timed it out.
Speaker 1: They just never rehearsed having the umpire twenty eight yards
Speaker 1: behind the play and then come and run over their
Speaker 1: quarterback on the way to spotting the ball and respotting
Speaker 1: and spotting it again. It's again, I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: you couldn't have called something different there, but based upon
Speaker 1: that look where the nose tackles lined up, everything that
Speaker 1: they did was exactly how they rehearsed it. It didn't
Speaker 1: work out. It doesn't completely erase the fact they went
Speaker 1: twelve and five this season and should be good for
Speaker 1: years to come. Thank you, Tom. We appreciate you joining
Speaker 1: us and congrats on breaking the hacker to the Broncos news.
Speaker 1: We'll wait for you to break other news like Sean
Speaker 1: Payton to the Cowboys. Thanks for having me down. Thank you, Tom.
Speaker 1: That's Son pelisera NFL Network insider. You can follow him
Speaker 1: at Tom PELISERA does a great job, probably doesn't get
Speaker 1: enough credit. For the job that he does. See take
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Speaker 1: settle on our poll question. I think Jason, who spent
Speaker 1: the last hour of yesterday's show snoring, is set to
Speaker 1: join us now. He might not have been the only
Speaker 1: person snoring during the last hour of the show, in
Speaker 1: fairness to him, three hours. Yes, I mean we do.
Speaker 1: This is the show that puts you to sleep, So
Speaker 1: we'll talk to him coming up right after this. Thanks
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Speaker 1: final hour of the show, we had a caller and
Speaker 1: it's Jason and Phoenix, and Jason had been on hold
Speaker 1: for almost ninety minutes and he was snoring, and then
Speaker 1: we checked back with him to see if he was awake,
Speaker 1: and then he was still snoring, and Jason and Phoenix
Speaker 1: joins us on the program. Good morning, Jason, Hello, good morning,
Speaker 1: thanks for having me again. What what what happened yesterday?
Speaker 1: You know, actually Seton has pretty good. It's like a
Speaker 1: missile reaction. He was like a zon recliner and I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: I was on a recliner, and uh, yeah, it was
Speaker 1: ninety minutes. Uh, that's kind of like my Uh. I work.
Speaker 1: I work afternoons, so I get out late, so I
Speaker 1: hadn't been to sleep yet when I was watching the show.
Speaker 1: Did you hear your snoring on the show today? I did,
Speaker 1: and it was amazing. I have to say, I'm going
Speaker 1: to send my mother a clip of that, and she's
Speaker 1: going to be so happy to know that I was
Speaker 1: on TV and I had such an epic like first
Speaker 1: first flash. It was amazing. Uh. I was embarras us
Speaker 1: at first, and then but when I watched it, I
Speaker 1: couldn't stop laughing. I was it had such grammatical pause
Speaker 1: every time y'all put back in it was. I couldn't
Speaker 1: believe I couldn't do that on purpose that I tried.
Speaker 1: What were you calling in to talk about? Well, I'm
Speaker 1: then Scottsdale. I used to work at the Grotto, so
Speaker 1: I've seen you there a couple of times, and I
Speaker 1: have to say, you are a seat guy, not a
Speaker 1: sweet guy. And Alex Rodriguez is as well. Alex Rodrigues
Speaker 1: is one of the best people I've ever sit in
Speaker 1: the restaurant. But either way, I have a proposition for Seaton.
Speaker 1: I work at a very fine establishment at this moment
Speaker 1: in time, Citizen Public House in Old Tone, and we
Speaker 1: have some great short ribs, we have some great park
Speaker 1: belly pastrami, and we have some great Manhattans and old fashions,
Speaker 1: and so we have dinner for him and the French guy,
Speaker 1: the French kid. Yeah, I don't know. The whole of
Speaker 1: it is on the house if they would would like
Speaker 1: to stop through. And on a side note, we have
Speaker 1: a little boutique dispensary here that you have to have
Speaker 1: your medical card in order to purchase certain items from
Speaker 1: and so I think he may also be interested in
Speaker 1: that as well. But either way, I wanted to throw
Speaker 1: that purposing out to him. And also I wanted to
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about a conversation I had with
Speaker 1: you all at the show a few years ago. I
Speaker 1: played basketball and I used to write with my left
Speaker 1: hand and I used to shoot with my right And
Speaker 1: it wasn't until I started practicing writing with my right
Speaker 1: hand when my game really took off. I don't say
Speaker 1: any here, sorry, not at off days than sorry. If
Speaker 1: you're putting us to sleep, sorry, thank you, asked Jason.
Speaker 1: If I can go to his work and fall asleep
Speaker 1: while he's doing his job. Jason aka Nike will Yeah,
Speaker 1: Holy god, I'm getting foggy. You know what? That restaurant
Speaker 1: sounds lovely, though, man swing by Citizen Public House. Jason's
Speaker 1: last name is Melotonin. Come on, get to the point.
Speaker 1: And I had a conversation. I would write with my
Speaker 1: right hand and I would shooting my left hand. I'm
Speaker 1: you know what, He made fun of himself and I
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Andrew and Washington, I Andrew, what's on your mind? Well,
Speaker 1: I gotta follow up to Snore in Phoenix, But five
Speaker 1: seven one five A right, thank Seten. Hey real quick,
Speaker 1: I got a question about Sean Payton, and then I
Speaker 1: have a wager for ye in the face if you
Speaker 1: would indulge me so real quick. So can Sean Payton
Speaker 1: actively talk to other players or teams? Since we're talking
Speaker 1: about he needs to be traded? So will he be campering?
Speaker 1: If he does that? It'd be all back channeling? Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: so he could he could just do it way Okay.
Speaker 1: My wager is this, I will let my ten year
Speaker 1: old son give me a pie of the face if
Speaker 1: one of your mentions in your monologue yesterday morning does happen.
Speaker 1: You mentioned Troy Aikman, Al Michaels and Sean Payton going
Speaker 1: to Amazon possibly for their Thursday night football. Yeah, bog
Speaker 1: that you'd pick those people. And I think you're an insider,
Speaker 1: whether you say so or not. And I will take
Speaker 1: a pie to the face if one of those doesn't
Speaker 1: get on too Amazon. But if they don't, will anybody
Speaker 1: else take the other side of the bed? If I win,
Speaker 1: will summary you take the pie of the face? All right? Well,
Speaker 1: thank you, Andrew. I have to think about that. I
Speaker 1: just tell you what I hear. I don't have any
Speaker 1: insights to this, but Amazon is all in and money
Speaker 1: is not going to be the issue there, Ross Tucker Nice,
Speaker 1: he'll join us. Coming up the actor Kevin James a
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