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Speaker 1: And we welcome you into episode eighteen of the best

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Speaker 1: podcast available. Welcome to Draft week everyone. We are less

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Speaker 1: than forty eight hours out from Roger Goodell going to

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Speaker 1: the Browns currently sit at pick number ten. I'm Jason

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Speaker 1: Gibbs alongside Andrew Gribble and Nathan Zigura. It is the

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Speaker 1: final b p A before the two thousand and twenty

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Speaker 1: what you want for the last full week in April. Gribbs, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm just trying to I'm retraining my body

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Speaker 1: And I I'm usually at the office during the draft,

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Speaker 1: a lot of different things to get ready for this weekend.

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Speaker 1: You gotta dig deeper, get yourself a five hour energy

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Speaker 1: or something grips. I know, the copee is gonna be going.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it'll be an all night events at our

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Speaker 1: We'll be getting will be in the comforts of the

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Speaker 1: living room for this one. All right, coming up on

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Speaker 1: the best podcast available. We will get to the top

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Speaker 1: five defensive ends. Finally, we ranked the top five offensive tackles.

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Speaker 1: A little fun and for volity, maybe a Gribble nuclear

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Speaker 1: take by the time this is all said and done.

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Speaker 1: But first things first, it is our final mock draft.

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Speaker 1: Gribble has asked us to come up with an entire

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Speaker 1: first round mock, which we've done. Now this is our

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Speaker 1: he asked us for all the other draft picks as well. Gribbs,

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Speaker 1: you hate us, It's fine. This it's it's a good

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Speaker 1: exercise because I think if any of us get I

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Speaker 1: it very very clear that he's approaching this like we're

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Speaker 1: down to it, then, guys on our mock drafts Gribbs.

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Speaker 1: We will start with yours and we'll go through the

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Speaker 1: talk second round after we've gone through everybody else's obviously

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow the number one pick. Can we all agree, guys,

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Speaker 1: as we go through these, Joe Burrow is gonna be

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Speaker 1: this one up. Correct? Yes, easy, easy peasy. I think

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Speaker 1: right now, seems to be the strongest narrative that's out

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Speaker 1: I would agree with that. I had Andrew Thomas at

427
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Speaker 1: number ten. I just like Andrew Thomas, and I'm I'm hoping.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it just makes too much sense for

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Speaker 1: him to come to US. I don't think a lot

430
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Speaker 1: of people have him ranked that high. But if there's

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Speaker 1: already two or three tackles off the board, he makes

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Speaker 1: perfect sense. And I would be just fine with Andrew

433
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Speaker 1: tom Us. I'd be fine with Wills, although there's a

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Speaker 1: part of me that it is a little concerned about

435
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Speaker 1: making that move from right tackle to left tackle. But

436
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Speaker 1: if he's the best tackle in the draft and he's

437
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Speaker 1: on the board, I think that makes the most sense. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: if you take a look at the at the rest

439
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Speaker 1: of this draft, if two it doesn't go at five

440
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Speaker 1: or six, gribble, how far it is to a fall

441
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Speaker 1: wherever the Patriots want to trade up to. That's that's

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Speaker 1: the that's my going theory. I just don't know what

443
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Speaker 1: other team is making a move for a quarterback at

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Speaker 1: that point. I don't think. I don't think the team

445
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Speaker 1: that drafts him is just gonna wait to get him,

446
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Speaker 1: like they're like, oh to a plotter lap, we'll just

447
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Speaker 1: take him here. So I think someone's gonna then make

448
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Speaker 1: a move to get him. I would still think top

449
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Speaker 1: half of the first round, and that my my power

450
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Speaker 1: rankings would be one New England to Patriots, three Pats.

451
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Speaker 1: Like I will say this, I really believe that John

452
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Speaker 1: Gruden would have a tough time passing on him at twelve. Now.

453
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Speaker 1: I know they love Marcus Mariota, and I think Marcus

454
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Speaker 1: Mariota ultimately gonna supplanted Derek car there. But I think

455
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Speaker 1: John Gruden would have a very difficult time passing on

456
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Speaker 1: too at number twelve. He might do it, Mike Mayock

457
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Speaker 1: might do it, but I think it would be that

458
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Speaker 1: would be a difficult decision for it. Do you think

459
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Speaker 1: they just wait for him to PLoP into the lap

460
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Speaker 1: like that just doesn't happen with quarterbacks. I guess that,

461
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Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I would think they'd have to

462
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Speaker 1: make a move. They would they would feel like they'd

463
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Speaker 1: have to make a move to go get him. So

464
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Speaker 1: may they come to tend Fine, we'll go back open

465
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Speaker 1: for business. Yeah, all right, which team in your eyes,

466
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Speaker 1: is the better shot to move up? Uh? Not the Raiders,

467
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Speaker 1: Denver or Tampa Bay? Is the girl will start with

468
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Speaker 1: you for for us to move back. No, just in general,

469
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Speaker 1: what which one of those two you think will move

470
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Speaker 1: up or has the better shot to move up? So

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Speaker 1: the interesting thing is if we wanted one of those tackles,

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Speaker 1: and and let's say we move back with Tampa Bay,

473
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Speaker 1: they're coming up to get a tackle. So I think

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Speaker 1: they're even a team that's been speculated could go to

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Speaker 1: number nine with the Jacksonville Jaguars to get in front

476
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Speaker 1: of us to get the tackle that they want. I

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Speaker 1: think they're likely to move up. I don't think the

478
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Speaker 1: Broncos would be likely to move in front of us.

479
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Speaker 1: I think they would be likely to move in front

480
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Speaker 1: of the Jets and the Raiders. Both of them could

481
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Speaker 1: be looking at wide receivers. So I think the Broncos

482
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Speaker 1: come into ten makes a lot of sense. But I

483
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Speaker 1: think nine is where you have to look at. If

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Speaker 1: the Jags are tanking, which I think we're all pretty

485
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Speaker 1: sure that they are, what do they care if they

486
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Speaker 1: move out of nine and get more assets. That seems

487
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Speaker 1: to be actually a smart thing to do. They've already

488
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Speaker 1: got two ones, and then to move back, collect some

489
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Speaker 1: more picks and let somebody come up. I think Tampa

490
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Speaker 1: go into nine is definitely a realistic possibility. But I

491
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Speaker 1: do think Tampa is gonna want to keep. They're not

492
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Speaker 1: gonna want to they maybe give up something for one.

493
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Speaker 1: I don't think that they would be using because I

494
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Speaker 1: do think they're gonna look to try to snag a

495
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Speaker 1: good running back in that second round and then completely

496
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Speaker 1: just load up that offense for for Tom Brady so

497
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Speaker 1: they can go to the playoffs. I think the Bucks

498
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Speaker 1: just because they've got an old quarterback that you're in

499
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Speaker 1: wind now mode, like you just gotta I mean you

500
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Speaker 1: kind of now and what you what are you building

501
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Speaker 1: picks for? That's what made Brady upset about the Patriots.

502
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Speaker 1: I mean they didn't they weren't loading up enough. You've

503
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Speaker 1: got to make the quarterback happy and you know, maximize

504
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Speaker 1: your like one and a half year window here, all right, Zigura,

505
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Speaker 1: do the forty Niners make a pick of thirteen? Well,

506
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Speaker 1: they still have that pick on Thursday night. It seems

507
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Speaker 1: to be that they're open to moving around and collecting

508
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Speaker 1: a lot of assets. So we'll see what happens with that.

509
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Speaker 1: But I'd like them to stay there because I'd like

510
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Speaker 1: them to take the best receiver on the board there,

511
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Speaker 1: because they can fill the need at thirty one with

512
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Speaker 1: the defensive tackle. Blacklock could be on the board. A

513
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Speaker 1: lot of people like him to help replace the loss

514
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Speaker 1: of the Forest Buckner. But I think if they can

515
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Speaker 1: get a super stud receiver and pair him with Deebo

516
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Speaker 1: Samuel and that offense with Kittle and those backs, I

517
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Speaker 1: think that could be dynamic. So I hope that they

518
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Speaker 1: don't make a move. But look, John Lynch, Kyle Shanahan,

519
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Speaker 1: smart guys. I could see them moving around saying, look,

520
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Speaker 1: we've got two to play with. Maybe they end up

521
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Speaker 1: moving both of them. They turned two players into four

522
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Speaker 1: players that they really like, knowing that they've got some

523
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Speaker 1: salaries coming up in some expenses that they're apparently they're

524
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Speaker 1: open to moving people. Apparently, Marcus good Marquis Goodwin is

525
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Speaker 1: on the block, Klon Alexander is on the block, And

526
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Speaker 1: I think for Browns fans and say, oh well, let's

527
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Speaker 1: just bring him here and solve our linebacking corps. I

528
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Speaker 1: think if you just pay attention to everything that's happened

529
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Speaker 1: this offseason the Browns field. That investment on defense happens

530
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Speaker 1: in front of the linebackers or behind the linebackers, and

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Speaker 1: so I would not expect that type of move from

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Speaker 1: the Browns. And and that's why I also a lot

533
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Speaker 1: of people think, oh, the Browns maybe take a linebacker

534
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Speaker 1: on the segment. I don't know. I would be stunned

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Speaker 1: if that happened. Alright, time to get into our top

536
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Speaker 1: five positions and top five player rankings. We'll start off

537
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Speaker 1: the defensive end. We'll save the best for last, the tackles. Uh.

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Speaker 1: At number one, we all have Chase Young. Uh. He

539
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Speaker 1: said he's inviting ten people there. He gets to have

540
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Speaker 1: nine people in his house under Haft night and then

541
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Speaker 1: everybody else will be doing uh drive ups as he

542
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Speaker 1: likes to call it. So uh, they won't have to

543
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: wait long. He'll be at number two. At worst, he'll

544
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Speaker 1: be number three. Um. If you take a look at

545
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Speaker 1: the other ones, Gribbs, Uh, you had Chasing at number

546
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Speaker 1: two out of l s u Gura, you had Gross Meadows.

547
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Speaker 1: You've been riding that train, as I think since this

548
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Speaker 1: whole process started. And I had a j and Panessa

549
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: from Iowa at number two. We're all over the place

550
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Speaker 1: on the defensive ends. Gribbs, why did you choose the

551
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: way you did best pass pressure on the best team

552
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 1: in college football? Simple as that, And I think the

553
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Speaker 1: the experts seemed to agree with me. He's pegged as

554
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Speaker 1: kind of a mid round selection. I think it's a

555
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Speaker 1: It will just be interestingly see where he goes, because

556
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: obviously there's a big gap between him and Chase Young,

557
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: Like who pulls the trigger on Chasing? But I think

558
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: pass rushers you have, you almost you almost have to

559
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 1: expect them to go higher than you think. You know,

560
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: one thought Cleveland Barrell was going number four last year,

561
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: but just such a rare. There aren't many humans that

562
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: can be pass rushers, and you gotta jump on them

563
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: when you can. And I think that's why Chasing I

564
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: think he'll end up there's a chance. I think he

565
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 1: goes in the first half of the first round. Yeah,

566
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: pretty solid. Indeed is the girl you're you're willing to

567
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: hang on? The gross maadows injury concerns the problem. I mean,

568
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: well that determine where he gets drafted or our our

569
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: team's comfortable taking a chance on him in the first round.

570
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: He's gonna go in the first round, and I don't

571
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: think there's any way he gets past the Seattle Seahawks. Uh.

572
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: It seems to be a natural fit for them. They've

573
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Speaker 1: moved on from a couple of defensive ends recently. He's long,

574
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: he's athletic, he's strong, he's productive in the big ten.

575
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Speaker 1: I think gross Maddos is gonna be a very sop

576
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: player and he's gonna go I think in a later

577
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: part of the first round in the twenties, and that's

578
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Speaker 1: why I had to take him away from us at

579
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Speaker 1: forty one. Not to mention, we've also signed Adrian Claybourne,

580
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 1: which I think changes the calculus a little bit there

581
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Speaker 1: a defensive end, because even if O vs here in

582
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: the last year of his deal, you've got now this draft,

583
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Speaker 1: you have a draft next year, and you have free

584
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: agency next year to really try to find a long

585
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: term solution for Miles Garrett as with a running buddy there.

586
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 1: So I think the urgency at that position is was

587
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 1: well down from where it was. Now. Do you want

588
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: to get somebody to maybe push Chad Thomas? I think so,

589
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: But I think Gross Montest goes in the first round

590
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: as I said in that bottom part of the first

591
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: round twenty on, Minnesota could be a place they look,

592
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: you know, as they move on from Everson. Griffin could

593
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: be a great fit there. So I think he's definitely

594
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: a first round talent and a good player, and I

595
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: think you could end up seeing when it's all said

596
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: and done, uh, you know, three maybe four edges in

597
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: the first round, but only one early and that's Chase

598
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Speaker 1: Young Gribbs. Where would you rank this position in the

599
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: draft in terms of like the most talent the most talent,

600
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Speaker 1: I would say it's middle of the pack, and I

601
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: think that maybe near the bottom. Honestly, the more I

602
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: think about it, because there there's the one super sure

603
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: thing that only two teams have a chance of getting.

604
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: Then there's a couple other good ones, and then I

605
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: just think with pass rushers, the problem is is there's

606
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: just a lot of projections, and I think that you're

607
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: always moving guys, Like we talked about moving a guy

608
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: from right to have a left tackle. It's always like, well,

609
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: this linebacker has got to play in a four three,

610
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: This fourth three d is gotta go to play linebacker.

611
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: And I think that that's why it just makes it

612
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Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of uncertainty, and it's just

613
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: it seems like this year, there there's maybe like three

614
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: or four that you can feel safe about, with the

615
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: rest are just projection projection, projection, high upside, not not

616
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Speaker 1: a ton of just safe picks that you're gonna feel

617
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: great about and making an impact direct. Yeah, indeed, um,

618
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: you take a look at the rest of this The

619
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: only other guy that really is the question mark is

620
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Speaker 1: a J. M. Pinesta, and there's some questions about him.

621
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Speaker 1: I think his talent is there. I think there's some

622
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: intangibles that are holding some teams back for making this

623
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: guy a much higher draft pick than maybe he should be.

624
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: He's a girl. He just doesn't jump off the charts athletically,

625
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: but he's a very savvy pass rusher, a guy who

626
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: won with his smarts in college back to back seasons

627
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: with double digit sacks at Iowa. And you wonder, is

628
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: he kind of more a high motor productive guy, like

629
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Speaker 1: like a Carl Nassa was coming out of Penn State

630
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: where he was still productive who's ended up, by the way,

631
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Speaker 1: being a very nice, rotational, even starting pass rusher in

632
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: the NFL. But he doesn't have the upside of a

633
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: guy like, for example, Terrell Lewis. But if Lewis can't

634
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: stay healthy, he can't help you. But if he is healthy,

635
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: he's got the athletic traits to be dominant at this level.

636
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: Whereas fin S I don't think has those athletic traits.

637
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: But he's gonna be solid, a good starter, and a

638
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: dependable player for teams. He just doesn't scream. Man, I've

639
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Speaker 1: got to get this guy. He could end up being

640
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Speaker 1: a you know, a fifteen set guy in the NFL.

641
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Speaker 1: I think we all can agree up to the top four.

642
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: There's a pretty significant drop off here, going back to

643
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Speaker 1: what Gribble said about the position as a whole. So

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Speaker 1: the top one, honestly, I think that Chafe Young. Then

645
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: there's a gap and chase on who is you know,

646
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: still a little bit lighter, but a good athlete. I

647
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: think he and Gross Tomatoes are probably in their own

648
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: little tier. And then you have a bunch of guys

649
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Speaker 1: where it could be Epanessa from Michigan. You've got, as

650
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: we talked about, Arrell Lewis, there's some other good pass

651
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: rushers available, but none of them they all have a

652
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: lot of questions, all right, let's get down to it. Then,

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Speaker 1: Offensive tackles, um we we all three of us Haddrick

654
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: Wills as the number one tackle. No one seems to

655
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: have any concern about moving from right tackle to left tackle. Um,

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Speaker 1: so the Crimson Tide tackle goes number one. Number two

657
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: on our list was Tristan Worth's. And I guess, Gribbs,

658
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: I know what Nathan said about him being a entleman guy.

659
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: Are there any other reasons why this guy ends up

660
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: being the first tackle off the board when so many

661
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: people are saying, and there's a ground swell that maybe

662
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: he's more of a guard than a tackle. Yeah, And

663
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Speaker 1: I don't know if that necessarily matters for some teams.

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Speaker 1: I think for the Browns, who clearly need a left tackle,

665
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: that matters more than say a team like the Giants,

666
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Speaker 1: who may just be looking for the best overall offensive lineman.

667
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: And I think there's a lot of people who think

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Speaker 1: that Works has a chance to be the best overall

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman. Look what Quintin Nelson has done with the

670
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Speaker 1: Colts and the impact he's had. I just don't think

671
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: for the Browns he just might not make as much

672
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: sense if you're thinking he projects as a guard. Then

673
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: he would for the Giants, who be like, well, worst

674
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: case scenario, he's a great he's a great guard, and

675
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: we could use that. That's that's why, that's why I

676
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: like him with for the Giants. Alright, So at number three, Gribble,

677
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: you and Andrew Thomas, I had McKay Beckton's the girl.

678
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: You had McKay Beckton from Louisville. So you're getting into

679
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: the point now where it's like Beckton Thomas, who's gonna

680
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: be there at pick number ten? Knowing that worse is

681
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: gonna be off the board, maybe Wills will be off

682
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: the board. Someone I think is going to take another

683
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Speaker 1: tackle somewhere in there. I think we can all agree

684
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Speaker 1: between five and and when the Browns pick at ten,

685
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Speaker 1: there's probably gonna be another tackle coming off the board

686
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: here at some point. But what's the biggest difference between

687
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Speaker 1: Beckton and uh Andrew Thomas Gribbs in your opinion? I mean,

688
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Speaker 1: I think the size I mean beck is huge, Yeah,

689
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Speaker 1: I mean that, And I just think that for Thomas,

690
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Speaker 1: I think he's a safer pick. I just think there's

691
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Speaker 1: a cup for me I put back in forth because

692
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: just there's the bad tape from eighteen, the weight and

693
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: then the latest issue with the with the tests. So

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Speaker 1: to me, they're both really good. They're elite tackles that

695
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Speaker 1: any other year they might be the top tackle off

696
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Speaker 1: the board. But for me, if I'm making a first

697
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: try investment, especially on the offensive line, where safer is

698
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: usually better than than the downside of a total guy

699
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 1: you came up on the field, I think they both

700
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,720
Speaker 1: are gonna be good. But I just feel safe for Thomas.

701
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Speaker 1: Is the girl you had becked In at number three?

702
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: You at Thomas at number five? Why becked in number three? Well,

703
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: just the size, the movement, skills, what he can do,

704
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Speaker 1: what he would be asked to do in the wide

705
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: zone scheme. Joe Thomas is a huge fan of him

706
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Speaker 1: and actually thinks he's the second best tackle in this

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Speaker 1: draft behind Jedrick wills Um. So that I think, you

708
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: look at the tests, the failed test, that's gonna push

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Speaker 1: him down. I think it's a good chance he'll be

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Speaker 1: on the board at ten if the Browns do decide

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Speaker 1: to go that way. Now, you mentioned that as my

712
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Speaker 1: little bomb right there, my little bombshell, which is just

713
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: sort of discussion purposes really more than anything. But I

714
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Speaker 1: put Thomas at five, and it was based in large

715
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Speaker 1: part what Dame Ruggler told us on the Browns draft

716
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Speaker 1: preview show on the Browns Radio Network this past Monday,

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Speaker 1: and that he said, Thomas is very safe, but at

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Speaker 1: the same time you worry about the balance issues, and

719
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: you also worry is he already fully formed? Is he is? This?

720
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Speaker 1: Is this who he is? And now that might not

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Speaker 1: be a bad thing. I think sometimes I said too

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Speaker 1: much as a negative in the NFL, because what he

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00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: is is a darn goood pass protector. But Austin Jackson

724
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: is twenty years old. Austin Jackson out at USC might be,

725
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: he said, the most gifted athlete tackle in this class

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00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 1: and and has the potential to become the best tackle

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Speaker 1: in this class. And so when I thought about my

728
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: overall value proposition for the Browns here, it's this. You

729
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 1: can pick up an extra asset. You can still get

730
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Speaker 1: Austin Jackson, and because he's maybe only needs a little

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Speaker 1: bit more time, you signed Jason Peters or according Glenn

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Speaker 1: to a one year deal. There are a lot of

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Speaker 1: ways to approach this, and then you give Jackson the

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Speaker 1: time to develop work under Callahan because I think there's

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Speaker 1: a notion that whoever we pick at tackle has to

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Speaker 1: be plug in play week one, and I don't think

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00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 1: that is the case. Actually, I think that the Browns

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Speaker 1: have a lot of flexibility and how they want to

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00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 1: approach that spot and the development of it. I just

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00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 1: think Jackson's upside is such that I would be very

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00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: interested in bringing him in here to the Cleveland Browns.

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00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll go back when lanzer Line said to

743
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: me he might be the best wide zone tackle in

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00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: the NFL in this draft at the combine. That resonates me.

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00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: I trust Lance's opinion of offensive linemen as much as

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00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: anybody in the league. I don't know anything about him personally,

747
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: so I go off one of the people like that

748
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 1: saying what Dan said last night, and just you get

749
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: a lot of buzz. Daniel Jeremiah on his conference call

750
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,479
Speaker 1: said the one guy he thinks he's gonna go higher

751
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: than anybody's expecting is Austin Jackson. So I'm intrigued by him.

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00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: As Cleveland's kind in that same boat, I think he

753
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: followed the same plan with him. But there's some concerns

754
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: about Andrew Thomas and that he's on the ground, so much,

755
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: and so again that's nitpicking for people who know a

756
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: lot more about this than I. I just thought to

757
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: be fun to put Jackson there and just at least

758
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: get the discussion going around that Avenue. Gribbs, you did

759
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: have ez were Cleveland was number five on your tackle list. Yeah,

760
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: and again I'll go with what Nathan said. Let's all

761
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: pretend we're none of us here at Joe Thomas. We don't.

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00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,919
Speaker 1: We don't when it comes off intive line, we don't

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00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: know what we're talking about. So I'm going off what

764
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: other people are saying about as a Cleveland, He's another

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00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: one that I would feel good about the Browns getting

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00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: if they move back. I feel the same way about

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00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: Austin Jackson as Nathan does, just not his ranking him

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Speaker 1: is highly I think both of those guys are good

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00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: options if you make the move back, because I think

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00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: ten still might be early for both of them. YEA,

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00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: all right, that's our discussion on the Brown's top position.

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00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: Who we think the Browns will address from a position

773
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,720
Speaker 1: standpoint in round one. Going back to our mock drafts

774
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: in round two. Oh, you thought I was gonna just

775
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: pass that over like I did the girl. I thought

776
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: you totally forgot. Nope, not at all, my friends, not

777
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: at all. We're talking second round pick and uh the

778
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 1: in our mock drafts, which will debut on Cleveland Browns

779
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: dot com this morning this morning, Yes, this morning, they

780
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: will appear the full mock plus all of the Browns picks. UH.

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Speaker 1: In this two thousand twenty NFL draft, we were asked

782
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: to make predictions all three of us head safety. I'm

783
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: on the Grant Delpa train. I'm on. I still think

784
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: that he's not gonna be there. But that's who I

785
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: went with, uh, Gribbs. You had Jeremy Chinn, the safety

786
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: out of Southern Illinois, who we really like and I

787
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: have talked about as well. Clearly, the position the Browns

788
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: we think we'll address in the second round is that

789
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: the safety spot groups. Yeah, I mean he's he's Nathan's guy,

790
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: the guy he's been touting. I I, as I wrote

791
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: in my writeup for the website, I just can't wrap

792
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: my head around Grant Delpa being available for any one.

793
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: I just can't get there. I know what happened with

794
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: Greedy Williams last year that he magically appeared a little

795
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: bit later in the second round I just I just can't.

796
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 1: I can't be that optimistic. It's not in my in

797
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: my being. I would love to be that optimistic. But

798
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: we'll see. Yeah. I mean, look, I think either one

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Speaker 1: of these guys you got, you got Jeremy Chin, it's

800
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: just the different level of competition he played out. But

801
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: a guy that is in comparisons to Harrison Smith, who

802
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: would our defensive staff be more familiar with than Harrison Smith.

803
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: And so if they feel that he matches up with

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00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: what Harrison Smith brought to the Minnesota Vikings for all

805
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: those years, then I think they're gonna run to the

806
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: podium and get him. I think delp it's a stun.

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00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't understand why he's not gonna go

808
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: in the top twenty. So if he's there at forty one,

809
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pounce on him and bring him in. I

810
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: think he's just that kind of a playmaker. I think

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Speaker 1: It's two thousand and eighteen tape is by far the

812
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: best safety tape in this class. So I'll go on

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00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: the fact that we can get him back there. Joe

814
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: Woods has always been great with defensive backs. Bring him

815
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: in and see what happens. But I do think that's

816
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 1: where we all see, uh, the need lining up. Now.

817
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: The other thing is, look, you can get through this

818
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,240
Speaker 1: season with what we have at safety right now with Sindejo,

819
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 1: with Karl Joseph and Sheldrick RedWine is your top three.

820
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: So it's not necessarily that pressing. I think we all

821
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: feel it just seems to be where the value lines

822
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: up with a big need for the Browns because you know,

823
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: and this is just a bit part of a bigger discussion,

824
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,280
Speaker 1: what are the other positions we're really gonna be targeting

825
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: in this draft? You know? I mean, I think we

826
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: think safety and tackle. I think we all would agree

827
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: on those. Beyond that, it's kind of murky to me

828
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: because everything that we've done this offseason would signal we're

829
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: not going to use a valuable When I say valuable,

830
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,959
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say a top the first second, third round pick.

831
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Speaker 1: Even though I'm gonna have us taking a linebacker in

832
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Speaker 1: the third round. It just doesn't seem to be in

833
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: line with what we've seen so far from this front

834
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 1: office and their valuation of that position. So is it

835
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: gonna be an edge rushable? We brought in Clayborne, Like

836
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: I said before, we've got two drafts now, you know,

837
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: and really a free agency period to address that. If

838
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: we're so inclined with ov here and it sounds like

839
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: Olivia Vernon is going to be here and in the plan,

840
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: so that's not a huge need either. Does wide receiver

841
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: actually jump up to our third biggest need knowing that

842
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: we've got our top two guys coming off of surgeries,

843
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: we don't tip We don't truly have an established third

844
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: receiver on this roster. And it is a great draft.

845
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: Is that maybe where we're gonna be going in the

846
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: third round. And that's just sometime I'm just thrown out

847
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: there because other than that, you don't see a lot

848
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: of needs, which is weird, But sometimes we do have

849
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: a lot of needs obviously trying to get this team

850
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: ready for the future, knowing you have so many people

851
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: on one year deals on this roster. Yeah, And I

852
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: found myself picking a wide receiver earlier than I thought. Uh,

853
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: And it was mostly because that's just how the board works,

854
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: especially because we identified linebacker and pass rush. We we

855
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 1: agree that's where the Browns need to get better, but

856
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: that's where it doesn't really match up as well with

857
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: the pool, like what does a project linebacker get you?

858
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: Where does that get you? Maybe that are you better

859
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: off with doing that? I mean, that's that's where it

860
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: gets a little murky for me. So yeah, I I

861
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 1: I went into this exercise thinking I was going to

862
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: pick one in the fourth round. I ended up picking

863
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: one in the third round. Yeah. I just think the

864
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: Browns will need to be active a little bit in

865
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: terms of getting into that fourth and fifth round, maybe

866
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: trying to acquire another pick or two. Hence you know,

867
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 1: the trade back on day one, because what everybody is

868
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: saying there, there are starters on in the fourth and

869
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: fifth round that can be had this year. That's how

870
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: deep the draft is in certain positions. So I think

871
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,919
Speaker 1: that is something that definitely bears watching as we get

872
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: closer here to Thursday night. All right, time to wrap

873
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: things up a little fun and formality. Best draft memory,

874
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: and now it can be working for this franchise. That

875
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 1: can be when you were growing up watching the draft,

876
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: whatever the case might be, the girl you're smiling gripples

877
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: and thought. So we'll start with the girl first. On

878
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 1: best draft memory. My best draft memory is probably also

879
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: the worst draft memory that I have, because there they

880
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: are linked. But I was in New York for the

881
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: two thousand and fourteen draft. I somehow correctly predicted that

882
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: we were going to take a corner and then moved down,

883
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: and I literally, I would did not know, even though

884
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: it's privy to some things on our draft boards. Justin

885
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: Gilbert at that time was not somebody that was known

886
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: to be linked to the Brown at all. Nonetheless, he

887
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: was taken in the top ten. But the euphoria that

888
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: night in New York it Music City, and then even

889
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 1: out on the streets after when we drafted Johnny was awesome.

890
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: I mean it really was. It was the coolest and

891
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: we all of a sudden overnight became we were We

892
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: were the coolest thing going. Now, it's also my worst

893
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: draft because you know, of those guys were even in

894
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: the NFL anymore and haven't been for some time. But

895
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: that night, that energy, that atmosphere was so cool, and

896
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: I think I went to another one that was in

897
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: Chicago after that, but then, you know, we didn't go

898
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: to the drafts anymore. So to be there was special

899
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 1: to just that electric atmosphere was special. Unfortunately, just as

900
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: electric ause it was, it was as equally electric of

901
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: a flop for the Browns. But so it's both my

902
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 1: best day and my worst groups. Let me give my

903
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 1: worst memory first, because that's always more exciting. Uh. The

904
00:43:55,440 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: two thousand twelve draft I covered in New York, UH,

905
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: covering Alabama, and they had five picks in the first

906
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: round of that draft. H and another guy, Courtney Upshaw,

907
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: who was supposed to go in the first round but

908
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 1: did not. Uh. Nathan could probably test this. Covering the

909
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: draft in person is a logistical nightmare. Uh. It's it's

910
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: not it's it's truly one of the events. Whenever someone's

911
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: asked me is like should I cover the draft? I

912
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,479
Speaker 1: always say no, you do it from your home base

913
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: because it's it's just a mess. This was back in

914
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: Radio City Musical where they put your computer your spot

915
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: in press row, like in the middle of the floor,

916
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: and I was like seat of ninety two, so I

917
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: was literally in the middle. So if I wanted to leave,

918
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 1: I had to like scoot myself in front of forty

919
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: five different people to get into the aisle. Uh. From

920
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: where I was set up, it's unorganized, you don't know

921
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: what's going on, and once you walk away from your computer,

922
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: you have no idea, what who's getting picked? You're, You're.

923
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 1: They don't really announce it very loud in the building.

924
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: Uh So it's truly a mess to cover. So that

925
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 1: was my worst draft at that I've ever covered. It

926
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: will be the last one I go to. AH do

927
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: not recommend. My best memory was probably in two thousand

928
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 1: seven when I was June, a senior in college, uh

929
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,760
Speaker 1: watching the draft from my living room with my friends

930
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: at back when the draft usays to be on a

931
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: Saturday at noon, and the Browns are on the clock

932
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: at number three, and they go up to the podium

933
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: and just as they're about to announce that's Joe Thomas.

934
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: I imagine a guy in the crowd who had a

935
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: few beverages screams out Jared Zabranski. And my friends and

936
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: I still laugh about this that to this day because

937
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: it is so funny, and we, of course we're big

938
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: college football fans, we knew exactly who Jared Zobransky was,

939
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: and then they're like in the round state Joe Thomas

940
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: like so it was it was an incredible The guy's

941
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: timing was truly incredible. He hit the he hit the

942
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: pause and sound at the perfect moment to let out

943
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: arads of Branski. It was like the ultimate getting the

944
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 1: whole moment for for a draft fan uh And it was.

945
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: It's still to this day my friends and I joke

946
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: about multiply that draft was absolutely crazy. I can remember

947
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: I was working at ESPN A fifty and we were

948
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: at an establishment we were at in a yearly tradition

949
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 1: and people were camped out in lawn chairs at like

950
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: eight am to get in we were. We were on

951
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: the air from like ten A to ten P. And

952
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: I can remember we take Joe. The place where we

953
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 1: were at didn't offer us any food and we're there

954
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: for twelve hours. So we worked out a trade deal

955
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 1: with a local pizza place down the street, and we

956
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: literally had this this van with no windows and a

957
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: buffet set up inside and you literally sat on the

958
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: floor of the van to eat. Mhm. I finally get

959
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: a chance to go and grab some food. I'm in

960
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: the van. People are looking at the van like there

961
00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: are people coming in and out of this thing all

962
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 1: day A What's going on in there? And I'm eating

963
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden I hear are broadcast on

964
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: the air and they're like the logos changed. The Browns

965
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: are up, and I'm like, oh my god, we're taking

966
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: We're taking Brady Quinn. I'm trying to get out of

967
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 1: the van. I'm currently locked in the band because it

968
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: doesn't have automatic locks. I'm trying to find the latch.

969
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: I opened the door. Is the one intern comes out

970
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: to try to tell me, Hey, you gotta come inside.

971
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: We're on the clock. Almost knocked the intern out. I

972
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: run inside. We picked Quinn. The place goes ballistic. There's

973
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: a wedding party that has shown up. These people have

974
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: just gotten married. Their first stop not pictures, but to

975
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: the bar. We do rounds of shots with them, get

976
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: them out. And it was an amazing day. And so

977
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: now I was there. Do you know that I was

978
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: on the air for Yes, I was there that day. Yeah.

979
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,760
Speaker 1: I put you to work back then too. Nothing changed,

980
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: nothing has changed, it's just the p a all right.

981
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 1: One bold prediction from you guys for the NFL Draft.

982
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: Gribbs will start with you. I think that my bold

983
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: prediction this is maybe not so bold, that the Browns

984
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: end up, even though I do not predict this in

985
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 1: the mock draft, that by their third pick they will

986
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 1: have picked two offensive players. Sigura. I like that, and

987
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: actually it's not what I have in mind, But as

988
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: I sit here think about it, we kind of just

989
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: talked the rout it. I think I've talked myself into

990
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 1: maybe pick number seventy four being a wide receiver for

991
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: this football team, which would give you two offensive players

992
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: out of those first three picks, because I think we

993
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: all assume a tackle is going to be one of them,

994
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: uh and then probably a safety would be the other.

995
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, I could, I could see that, and I'm

996
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: just starting to think that, yeah, maybe wide receiver is

997
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: something that's gonna go a little bit earlier than perhaps

998
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 1: we were all expecting here for the Cleveland Browns. And

999
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: I think yet seventy four, you do have an opportunity

1000
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: to have somebody pretty good potentially be on the board there.

1001
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 1: Andrew Berry told us on the Brown's draft preview show

1002
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 1: he was going to be aggressive. I think the Browns

1003
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: picked twice on Thursday night. There's my bold prediction for Okay, okay,

1004
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: So what are you coming back into the end of

1005
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: the first round for maybe grant dump it? What if

1006
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: you guys checked out the mock draft round up on

1007
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Dot com Steve Paulizalo of Pro Football Focus.

1008
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: With the tenth pick, the Browns select Ceedee Lamb wide receiver. Listen,

1009
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 1: I don't it's not out of the realm of possibility.

1010
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: I will say this because last night or on Monday night,

1011
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 1: I pressed general manager Andrew Berry a little bit about

1012
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 1: the receiver room, and I said, look, I know this

1013
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: is typically a two receiver offense, but you know, you

1014
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: go through the things we have, the guys who have

1015
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: been injured, um, you know behind them, there isn't anybody

1016
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: that's proven. Taywan Taylor Shore was the third round picks

1017
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: got a lot of speed that Leaves made some plays

1018
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: here and there. Kadarrol Hodges made some plays. D J.

1019
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: Montgomery showed some things, you know, prior to the actual

1020
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 1: games being played last year, and you know, this is

1021
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: a pretty historic receiver drift. I was trying to get

1022
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,760
Speaker 1: it into his head about what, you know, he wants

1023
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: to do with that position, and he, of course gave

1024
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: nothing because he's so good at that. But at the

1025
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: same time he basically said, look, people don't have opportunities.

1026
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: But the one interesting thing that he said that was

1027
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: a little bit of a pushback was. Yeah, Kevin Stefanski

1028
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 1: ran that offense with you know, only two receivers on

1029
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: the field so often in Minnesota because of the personnel

1030
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 1: he had there, and that he could be adaptable to

1031
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: having more, you know, three receiver sets and not necessarily

1032
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: be twelve personnel all the time if that's what the

1033
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 1: talent dictated on the roster. And so that was interesting

1034
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:49,720
Speaker 1: because I was trying to think back to two thousand

1035
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: and fourteen. It's not like we were playing two in

1036
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: the Channahan offense. We had Taylor Gabel on the field

1037
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: a ton It's something we were playing two tight ends

1038
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: all the time and it was still incredibly productive. So

1039
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: that was just it again. It's just another thing that

1040
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: makes me I don't know about ten boy, I mean,

1041
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: the fireworks would be people. I mean, I can only

1042
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: imagine the reactions to that. But maybe if you did

1043
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: that at ten and then you trade back in and

1044
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: you're able to get you know, in Ezra Cleveland, Austin

1045
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: Jackson end of the first round and then in the

1046
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: third round that's or maybe an Ashton Davis would be

1047
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: there for you, or Terrell Burgess out of Utah. You

1048
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: still can get a pretty good safety at that spot,

1049
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: So that would be I like to give it bomb.

1050
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: Come on, that's why you got two bananas back there.

1051
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: You're dropping box exactly. Banana for You. Banana for You.

1052
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: Episode eighteen is in the camp. Just a reminder, the

1053
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,479
Speaker 1: first ever Brown's Virtual Draft Party coming to your way

1054
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,760
Speaker 1: Thursday night at six o'clock. We want you to register

1055
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: on the Cleveland Browns dot com for that. It'll be

1056
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: airing on the Browns YouTube channel, Facebook page, Twitter the

1057
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: latest draft news. Dame Bruegler is gonna join Sagura is

1058
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: the host of the program. Brugler is gonna join Brand Pasley,

1059
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 1: Country Superstar will make an appearance as well. Radio coverage

1060
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 1: all throughout the weekend, brought to you by Speedway, will

1061
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