WEBVTT - A Reaction To The Riz Ahmed Episode Of The Questlove Show 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:03.680 Quest Love Show is a production of iHeart Radio. 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:18.720 What's Up, Everybody. 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:23.200 This is Cousin Jake, producer co producer of The Questlove Show. 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:26.200 And I'm sitting here with our very own family member 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:27.240 open Mike Eagle. 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:29.680 I need a family name. I need to figure out 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:30.680 what my relation is. 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:33.360 You know, I don't know how I got cousin Jake. 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:33.840 It was funny. 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:36.800 It was like the first or second time back in 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:39.640 twenty twenty two. I sat in and I was laughing 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:41.800 because I always was a fan of Questlove Supreme and 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:44.960 I'd known Fonte a long time, and Amir just was 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:47.760 like cousin Jake, and I laughed because at one point 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:49.960 I was telling somebody, I was like, man, I feel 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:53.280 like Oliver on the Brady Bunch, Like I don't like 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:55.920 this is the family and I'm here for a weird 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:59.160 like season and whatever it is, it works, and I 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:00.960 don't because cousin, as far as I know, is not 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:03.040 a reference to a TV show or anything else. 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:04.959 But not that I'm familiar with either. But you know, 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:05.920 it sounds good. 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:08.080 But you got one of the coolest names period. But 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:10.480 you know, we got to probably get something specific to 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:11.440 this environment. 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:14.119 I think so we'll find that together. We will. 0:01:14.280 --> 0:01:16.360 We will with the Big Boss involved as well. 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:19.399 But I you know, there was something We taped this 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:22.720 interview with Riz Amoud and you know, to pull back 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:26.240 the curtain. It was originally supposed to be in person 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:32.840 in New York and this show has often you know, existed, thrived, survived, 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:36.480 evolved around travel plans, you know, and you know, a 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:39.800 mirror ended up having to be in California for a 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:42.120 couple of weeks during the hiatus of the Jimmy Fallon Show, 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:45.360 so we moved it to virtual and it was funny. 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:49.160 I shout out to Riz. He was dealing with parenthood. 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:51.320 He was in the middle of a press day, which 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:52.320 I'm sure you've done. 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:53.520 It's always a day. 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:56.240 Probably a different level because he's probably promoting the movie 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:59.280 I'm sure to a show. Yeah, and I have been 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:01.639 there for a show, but even in its basic cable 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:05.120 it's a different world than you know, you're being television. 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:09.040 I'm saying I've been there, But because I've been there, 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:11.560 I could say there's certainly levels to it, and the 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:14.639 level that he's operating on is probably it would probably 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:16.720 kill me to have to be kind of press that 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:17.840 he had to do well. 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:18.320 It's funny. 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:21.040 We did it in iHeart Studios, la a Mere's part 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:24.840 and Riz was in I Believe New York and there 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:27.120 was an echo just because you know, studios try to 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:31.080 assist and I am not the tech savvous person despite 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:34.840 being a producer of award winning podcast. So there was 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:37.520 echo for the first few minutes and at one point 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:39.160 Riz and you won't hear this in the final but 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:41.240 was like, hey, can you guys just check something I'm 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:44.880 getting like echo effect, And but it turned into a 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:48.120 really cool discussion. And you know what was interesting is like, 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:51.720 and I love this about this show. Things go where 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:53.600 they're going to go, and then you know, if there's 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:56.840 something to promote, there's a reason Deetra it comes back in. 0:02:56.919 --> 0:02:58.640 But Riz want to talk about music, He asked a 0:02:58.639 --> 0:02:59.640 mirror a lot of questions. 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:02.680 I mean, he's a huge hip hop hit. Yeah yeah, 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:04.120 and you know a lot of people don't know that 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:05.160 about it, but he's huge. 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:08.000 Have you ever in your capacity, like shared a stage 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:08.640 or a bill. 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:10.760 Or I have not. I have not. I've just I've 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:13.799 heard him talked about by people who I knowed really 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:16.440 know what's up, and they tell me he really knows 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:16.960 what's up. 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:19.520 Yeah, and that came across Oh go ahead, I'm sorry. 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:23.280 Uh, he makes music. I think he's done some stuff 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:27.320 with heems. Yeah, so yeah, I mean that's that's the homie. Okay, 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:29.320 that's probably the closest connection between us. 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:30.680 So yeah, but I thought of you. 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:33.079 I thought of myself at one point, you know, they 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:36.240 Emir kind of asked him a term that you and 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:39.360 I have used on this platform about north stars, and 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:43.240 I felt like it might be resonant to your journey especially, 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:46.400 but he was like, you know what really guided you? 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:49.640 And Riz was really honest and kind of pointed to 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:54.400 the whole you know, raucous records movement and adjacent figures. 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:57.880 He says, you know, most of ya sen by to 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:02.000 lib quality, he mentions common to black thought. And I 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:04.800 thought that that was just interesting because I think you 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:07.000 and I are of a similar age group and a 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:11.680 similar taste profile. You know, what did you think when 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:12.200 you heard that? 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:15.640 It wasn't surprising at all. I'm part of that same 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:20.720 generation where at if you had asked me from the 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:27.159 ages of you know, sixteen to twenty four who my 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:29.880 favorite rappers were, I would have said those same people 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:34.920 like those were Those were at that time north stars 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:38.239 in terms of rappers that people knew about, Like those 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:42.120 were the cream of the crop, and it was representative 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:47.480 of you know, that wave of true school hip hop, 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:53.400 raucous records, lyricist lounge, you know, Daylight's re emergence to 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:57.560 where they're connecting with people like Common and Most Death 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:01.640 and it's turning into soul query. It's like that whole 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:07.359 era was some of the most important music that was 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:12.120 ever made to me, And honestly, it's sort of a 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:19.520 golden era of rappers with values that aligned with mine, 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:26.160 both you know, societally and craft wise, really flying close 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:26.720 to the sun. 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:29.839 What do you mean by that that this. 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:35.080 Was the time when we had gone through the early 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:37.520 times of hip hop where it seemed like almost equal 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:41.760 time between public enemies and NWA's like the full spectrum, right, 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:45.919 things had started to get homogenized, I believe around like 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:51.400 bad Boy, you know, the way that Biggie was able 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:55.039 to marry street rap and club rap sort of changed 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:58.680 everything to where everything was going in that direction. And 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:03.120 then for this moment in the mid nineties up until 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:07.400 like early two thousands, there was a sense almost like 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:12.400 it was coming back, and I won't say mainstream hip hop, 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:18.880 but like major labels were still putting resources into what 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:26.400 felt like vital alternative voices and rap, and so common 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:30.159 albums felt way big. Most stef albums felt way big. 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:33.640 And then you would see people like Tribes suddenly doing 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:36.560 songs with like punchline and Wordsworth and stuff. It was like, 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:39.839 oh okay. And then you know, one of the ways 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:41.919 I marked this era too, is that I was a 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:46.520 big music video head, so watching Rap City, watching your 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:52.679 MTV raps, and the way I would experience these shows 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:56.920 is that seventy percent of the stuff with stuff that 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:59.560 I was like, Okay, you know this is I like 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:02.360 watching these shows. I like seeing what's happening. A lot 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:05.080 of the videos that they're playing it's not stuff that 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:09.880 I like. But then like every block there's one video 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:12.000 it's like, Oh, that's that's the one I like. So 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:18.600 it's it's misfat Booty or it's Jay Ruse, You're playing yourself. 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:23.120 Fuji's like that that sort of thing, And if Fujis 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:27.320 was another example of what I'm talking about, where this 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:33.360 underground hip hop trio suddenly sell like ten million albums 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:38.680 or something like really really cross over. So there was 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:41.640 a moment where we felt like, oh, this is coming back. 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:45.239 This is about to be you know, bigger and better, 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:47.520 and there's going to be more of a balance. And 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:51.480 when you look back on it that, you know, ninety 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:54.800 five to two thousand, that was the golden age of 0:07:56.280 --> 0:08:02.520 alternative voices having a foothold on that level in the industry. 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:06.360 Because I feel like largely it's gone away from that. 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:09.120 That makes that really resonates too. And even Rap City. 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:12.960 I remember around the time where their intro became bee 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:17.400 Boy document the later version, you know, with high mighty 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:19.640 most definite skills, and they would even show that part 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:22.800 of like the subterranean yep. And I was like, wait, 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:25.120 and you're absolutely right, like you might get two or 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:28.640 three videos in that hour or two, but it was 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:31.280 mixed in, you know. I remember hearing definition on radio 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:32.680 in Pittsburgh from Black Star. 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:34.240 It was very hard to find the. 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:38.160 CD M, but we were we were exposed to it, 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:40.000 and then you learned years later about things like the 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:44.320 Telecommunity Communication Act in ninety seven changed. Yeah, but you're right, 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:46.640 like Rockets felt like it was punching up and and 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:48.880 and also it was really cool when I'm sure you 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:51.679 alluded this with Dayla, but like I didn't know Farrell 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:55.520 munchrom organized Confusion, like that was a little bit before 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:58.600 my time. So to watch this guy that comes out 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:01.200 as a solo artist and has this massive song that 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:04.200 is I don't use these words but a club banger yep. 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:06.280 And then to go back and see Oh my God, 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:09.000 and he and Prince Poetry made three really great albums, 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:11.679 and there's a previous history or ge rap, you know, 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:14.520 all these different folks that were coming as trains on 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:15.120 that car. 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:17.839 It was really cool and I love and. 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:21.839 Getting back to the question of show conversation, I'm always 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:27.240 astonished at how many people in hard to reach places 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:29.600 right now are pointing back to the same sort of 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:32.679 experience that you and I had as fans, yeah, and 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:34.240 saying how inspiring it was to them. 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:36.920 It was a special moment. It really was. And that 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:44.840 doesn't hip hop is such an interesting phenomenon historically because 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:48.320 there's like this, there's like a constant battle for its 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:53.559 soul happening, like it's a counterculture thing, but it also 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:57.840 embraces capitalism, and there's just always this dance like who 0:09:57.880 --> 0:10:00.600 does it belong to? Does it belong to people, Does 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:03.600 it belong to the corporations, Does it belong to the 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:06.160 rich rappers? Does it belong to the underground rappers? Like 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:10.000 that is a constant sort of tug of war for 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:15.120 like the esthetic heart of this thing. And you know, 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:17.560 the side that I feel like I'm on usually doesn't win, 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:20.079 like it was winning at that time, and even then 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:21.839 it was, you know, it was a fraction of what 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:24.760 was happening, but it just felt so impactful. 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:38.839 I get to work with the Mirror and we spend 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:42.000 time together. We don't we don't talk hip hop much, 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:44.280 you know. I mean, hey, there's a show to produce, right, 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:47.560 but you know, you don't get the moment. And even 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:50.240 in our limited dealings, like we only get but so 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:51.680 many moments to fan out. 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:52.480 And it was cool. 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:54.760 One of the things I liked about Riz that again 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:57.800 keeps it a totally organic podcast, is he put a 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:00.400 lot of the questions back to back to a mirror 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:04.480 and this Amir's answer also really intersected with a space 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:07.560 I look at you and a few other folks, you know, 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:10.520 like Blue and Exile or Little Brother. You know, that 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:15.319 kept that feeling going of everything that we're talking about 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:18.040 But there was another thing of just like you know, 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:20.319 Amir uses this point, I like people that are different, 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:24.439 you know, And I think he was also referring to authentic, 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:27.080 character driven rap and he points to a lot of 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:30.160 folks that are in your orbit, you know, cool Keith Eedon, 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:34.720 who's in Philly right now, MC Paul Barman, you know, 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:37.520 doom folks like that. And I was just curious for you, 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:40.520 especially as being and I'm this is my opinion you're 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:43.520 in that space as well, Like what did that mean, 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:46.800 especially after doing a whole season of shows with a 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:49.720 mirror kind of talking about his hip hop worldview as 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:51.880 it pertains to his own group, you know. 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:56.160 And that was the interesting thing about it. I've never 0:11:56.280 --> 0:12:01.080 heard questloves you know, top five for five rappers that 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:05.439 he would name like that, And it was so interesting 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:09.160 not only to hear the names that he said, but 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:13.840 for him to be conscious of the notion of, Okay, 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:16.760 I'm in a group with, you know, a person who's 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:20.679 widely considered the greatest rapper all time by a lot 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:27.880 of people, and thought, it's such a technical marvel and 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:34.760 so otherworldly and credible at like rapping his asshole literally, 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:41.520 it's interesting that that sort of informs who A Mirror 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:46.800 points to as a contrast, Like so it's like it's 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:50.679 presupposing that you, of course you know about black Thought, 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:54.880 but he names Cool Keith and Edon and m C. 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:59.040 Paul Barman, and yeah, these are these are interesting voices, 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:01.559 and I think it really dovetails with something Riz was 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:05.760 saying too about how he felt, in his modern taste 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:11.200 leaned towards musicians rappers that feel like their authentic selves 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:16.600 on a song, and like Cool, Keith, Edon and Paul Barman, Yes, 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:19.760 and Doom absolutely. I mean, of course Doom wears a 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:23.480 mask and plays a character, but he's a unique human being. 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:26.559 On the mic, he don't sound like nobody else. He 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:30.760 sounds like himself. And that was always the thing, aside 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:33.839 from Paul Barman's wordplay. And this was the other thing 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:37.440 that was notable to me about Amir saying that, is 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:40.720 that is one of the things that first directly linked 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:46.560 me in A Mirror was A Mirror given Paul Barman 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:49.400 a few beats for the album that he did on 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:51.880 Mellow Music Group when I was on Mellow Music Group, 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:57.319 and the first song on that album, I can't remember 0:13:57.360 --> 0:13:59.800 what it's called, but it's and I know that the 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.800 album cover is. It's just a set of parentheses, but 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:06.839 I can't remember right here. Echo Chamber, Echo Chamber, and 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:09.319 I think that so the first song is called Echo Chamber. 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:13.319 It's the title track. That is a beat that A 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:16.520 Mirror gave to Paul, and Paul asked me to get on, 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:19.600 and that was like my first real direct connection to 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.800 a mirror. And that beats crazy too because it's a 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:26.000 I don't know if you'd call it a remake or 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:31.160 a cover. It references elements of this Stereo Lab song 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:35.600 that Dila flip to make this bust of rhymes. 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:40.280 And the Milky I always get the title the Milk. 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:46.600 Yeah, And I love Stereo Lab. I love the buster 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:50.920 song that Diyla flip that before showed me what you got. 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:54.160 I love Paul Barman, I love quest Love. So being 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:57.680 on that song was so big for me and all 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:01.640 of those ways. So I don't know, it was dope 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:04.440 to hear a mirror shout Paul Barman, who also just 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:07.240 dropped a great album with Kenny Siegel earlier this year. 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:09.080 Okay, I need to check that out. 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:13.760 It's funny, you know, both iterations of QLs have this 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:17.440 habit because so fun fact, I'll pull the curtain back 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:21.680 for one thing. Anytime a song is quoted sung hum 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:25.160 Fonte used to just kill it with the humming, like 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:28.680 he could create a melody or a baseline off memory perfectly. 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:31.560 It goes into a bank like that's something that iHeart 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:33.760 requires of us so and. 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:34.600 I'm the guy that does it. 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:36.520 And it's secretly one of my favorite parts of my 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:40.480 job because I always listen to everything that is mentioned 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:44.280 and it gives it drives my musical taste. MC Paul 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:47.160 Barman is one of those names that came up in 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:50.120 your interview and you spoke about it just now as 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:52.680 an impetus of feeling. You know, you could run up 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:56.600 on a Mirr at an airport, yep. But like he's 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:58.320 come up two or three times this season. 0:15:58.440 --> 0:15:59.640 You know, mir brings him up. 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:02.920 Like names that that aren't always on the tip of 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:05.280 your tongue. You're Drakesure, Kendrick Lamars, meet me at whatever 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:08.720 come up, Like Amy Grant comes up like thirty times 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:11.400 in the QLs over different episodes, and I love the 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:14.360 organic nature of all that. To echo your point, these 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:16.960 are all artists I love. There's a thing called Vinyl 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:19.680 Con going on in Philadelphia this weekend and. 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:21.440 E Don he hasn't put a rap album out in 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:22.080 a long time. 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:25.640 I don't think so he put out Oh he didn't. 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:26.640 Join Homeboy Sammon. 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:28.360 Yep, that's the one I was about to mention. 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:29.600 Any and that was a few years ago. 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:31.120 That was a few years ago now, Yeah, and it 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:31.560 was great. 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:33.680 And they did that video of my man photo Rob 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:35.080 shot of them in a swimming pool. 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:36.200 Shout out the photo Rob. 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:37.200 Yeah, you know. 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:40.880 But Eaton was spinning at Vinyl Con. I got to 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:43.920 see Boogie Blind yesterday. Great set. I was hoping he 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:47.040 done with Saturday. Turns out he was Sunday. But I'm 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:48.800 here with you and I'm happy about it. 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:51.960 But I love eat On too. That's the homie man, 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:53.800 and that beauty and the beat is one of the 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:55.760 greatest things. I tell him all the time, like, there's 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:58.720 there's nothing like that album. Yep, there's nothing like it. 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:05.159 And to merge psychedelia and eighties. I don't want to 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:06.679 call it old school, but like. 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:10.440 It's kind it's it's it's old school. It's old school values, 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:14.560 like old school rap values. He's not using like simple words, 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:18.520 but an old school approach to rap. 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:20.560 In one of my favorite promo items. 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:23.000 And I've over the years at times where I needed 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:26.240 to pay rent, or to pay bills or to fill tanks. 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:29.160 I've sold a lot of the things that I've accumulated, 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:31.879 you know, being in the industry. But I still have 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:34.160 a Beauty in the Beach shirt and I still wear it, 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:37.600 and I've never had anybody ever recognize any of the 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:38.000 names on. 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:40.680 The shirt, and that is a disappointing thing of humanity. 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:43.160 Because I saw with it. That's sad. That's sad, because 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:44.120 I loved one day and I. 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:46.879 Was like, that's lot Keem Shabbaz, that's Percy p that's 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:47.680 grand Master. 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:49.719 Like it is. It's also one of the greatest cover art. 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:50.439 And you know, I made it. 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:53.680 Himself too, so I'm not surprised that he made it himself. 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:55.000 Man is a true artist. 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:58.439 Last thing, have you had the opportunity yet to see 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:02.040 any of the things that RIZ start in New be 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:04.639 it Hamlet or Bait or some of the past stuff. 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:05.680 Is that in your life? 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:07.760 I don't know that. I know. I feel like I've 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:09.639 got to have seen him in something, but I couldn't 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:10.080 tell you what. 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:14.240 Ten years ago, The Night Of was one of still 0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:17.879 to this day, one of the best mini series ever HBO. 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:22.919 It was created by one of Richard Price, who you 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:27.360 know did Clockers, He wrote the book Did the Wanderer. 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:30.480 Like Richard Price is just one of the great novelists 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:33.639 to me, and The Night Of is very dark and it. 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:34.320 You and I will appreciate this. 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:38.760 It does feature acting by not just Sticky Fingers, but 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:39.800 also Lord Jamar. 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:42.679 I'm looking at this. I think I have seen this, 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:43.800 but I don't remember it. 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:46.760 John Tuturo. It's good stuff. It's good stuff. But Riz 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:49.639 was really cool. He apologized. He was like, guys, my 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:52.480 kids are running down the hall. It turned into a 0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:55.360 really cool episode. And Riz, if you are listening to this, 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:57.000 I'm sorry. 0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:57.560 For that feedback. 0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:00.560 I'll fall on my sword for that one. 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:03.480 But yeah, man, well to everyone. 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:06.720 Listening, thank you for checking out these many episodes. Again, 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:10.320 we're just here to unpack a few things, kind of 0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:13.879 create a show around the show and just remind folks 0:19:13.880 --> 0:19:16.080 that we put fifty episodes out a year and we're 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:19.119 also doing these. Amir will be back with us very soon. 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:22.479 But till then, man, I know you are going to 0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:25.440 the East Coast and then jumping over the pond to Europe. 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:29.000 So check your open Mic Eagle dates. He won't say it, 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:29.480 but I will. 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:50.800 I appreciate it question. 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:53.080 LOP Show is a production of iHeartRadio.