WEBVTT - Big Red Rage - Gentlemen, State Your Picks 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:05.280 Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles. He 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:10.640 got Jack. This is the Big Red Race presented by 0:00:10.720 --> 0:00:14.880 Santanford in Gilbert. Harry's gonna score touchdown. Slam to the 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:18.320 ground by Buddha Baker Like a torpedo. He came flying 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:23.400 into the backfield. The Rage is brought to you by 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:29.400 satan Ford in Gilbert. Are you Santanford State Farm? Talk 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:33.040 to an agent today at eight hundred State Farm, And 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:39.159 by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts Visit Acy Cardinals dot Com, Slash Podcasts, 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:47.720 The Rods, Rising Guard, Temperaturizing Vision, flurring Rage, taking it over. 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:51.479 Here's Paul kelvc Get the popcorn ready. It's gonna be 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:54.640 a show, and Ron will fleep. It doesn't get any 0:00:54.680 --> 0:01:00.640 better than that. Unleash the far I'm gonna get some 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:05.480 audience participation right off the top. How about a show 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:09.840 of hands for those who are not nonconformists like Ron Wolfleck. 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:13.360 What are you talking about? Paul? Who among us is 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:19.920 so done with mock drafts. I'm raising my head right now, 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:25.480 very high. Paul, raising it very high. Keep that arm 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:27.479 high in the air. When I ask who is ready 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:30.000 for a real draft? Fact I might use this stick 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:32.200 tomorrow night, right off the top of the draft party, 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:34.600 as I'm gonna have the microphone up on stage, and 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:36.960 I might just share with everyone that this year for Lent, 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:40.080 I gave up scones and chocolate chip cookies. Next year, 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:43.640 I'm most definitely giving up mock drafts. I'm just saying 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:46.000 that right here. In fact, the NFL Network just wrapped 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:50.960 up a one hour special featuring Daniel Jeremiah's final first 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:54.440 round selections and Ron Wolfley. Yeah, I think you're intrigued 0:01:54.480 --> 0:02:01.360 to know envelope please the Arizona Cardinals select George Carloftis 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:04.440 from Perdue. Wow. Okay, well you know what's a lot 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:06.920 of people are mocking him to the Cardinals at number 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:10.400 twenty three. Polly, Yeah, so no doubt about it. We 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:13.320 know two things for sure right now, it'swas the night 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:16.280 before the NFL Draft. We know two things. One, there's 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:19.560 as much uncertainty as any year ever, right. You hear 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:23.480 that over and over. And number two, we say, Jacksonville, 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:25.639 we'll find a way to screw it up. They will 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:27.680 screw up the number one pick. They'll take Trey Von 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:30.640 Walker will end up overpaid and underwhelming. That will happen. 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:32.840 I'm just telling Actually, there's one other thing we know 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:37.000 for sure, and that is every Wednesday before the NFL Draft, 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:39.440 we do a very special edition of the Big Red 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:42.079 Rage that has now become tradition, has it not, Ron 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:45.360 wolf Lea, where we bring in the voice of the 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:48.560 Arizona Cardinals, your cohort up there in the booth, mister 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:51.720 Dave Pass joins us tonight on the Big Red Rage, 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:57.920 presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert. Good evening, Dave, Good evening, gentlemen, 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:00.560 how are we doing. I'm with you, guys. I'm ready 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:03.120 for the mob trafts to be over with. I can't 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:07.440 wait for tomorrow. Yeah, season starts tomorrow night. Like I said, 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:09.120 I'll be out of the draft party. So it starts 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:11.399 at State Farm Stadium. The season is going to end 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:14.320 at State Farm Stadium with Super Bowl fifty seven. Now, 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:16.680 you just got to figure out the in between and 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:18.880 when you talk about the big picture for the Big 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:21.600 Red guys, let's just hit zoom out here for a minute. 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:24.079 Wolf What do you think the Cardinals need to come 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:26.760 out of this draft with? What are the app I mean, 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:29.480 there's wants and needs. What are the absolute muss when 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:32.119 you come out of this draft. Yeah, you know what, Polly, Honestly, 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:36.480 you know how I feel about rookies to begin with, guys. 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:40.840 I mean, I just I've been jaded. I've been jaded 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:42.640 by so many guys that we're going to come in 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:45.280 and there, we're gonna change the entire team. This was 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:46.960 it that we're gonna come in there, we're gonna make 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:49.600 the impact, that we're going to be the difference between 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:52.840 us being five and eleven and eleven and five, and 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:55.160 there was just one problem. They couldn't play. So I 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:58.280 don't get too jacked up over the whole rookie thing, 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:01.240 even though it is so exciting. There's no doubt about that. 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:05.920 So I feel like I need to say that first Paulli. Secondly, 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:10.000 they need a player that is going to contribute immediately. 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:12.080 That's what I want to say. I want to see 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:15.720 somebody that is going to contribute in September, and when 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:20.200 I say that, gets significant snaps in September and maybe 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:23.479 be a starter by October. I want to see that. Well, 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:25.960 and you know what, that's asking for quite a bit 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:28.960 based on the last two years, because that was not 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:32.359 the case with the Isaiah Simmons and then Zamon Collins. 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:34.520 You know there has been a learning curve with those. 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:37.039 A lot of that is by position. Paulli, it's so 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:39.880 difficult to come in and play middle linebacker in the 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:43.520 National Football League after playing at college. Dave, what do 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:46.080 you think, big picture? What do you hope the Cardinals 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:48.640 come out with When you're sitting there Saturday evening and 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:50.800 having one of your nice glasses of wine, what do 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:54.880 you hope you're celebrating. Well, you look at those three 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:57.800 picks they have in the first three rounds, and I 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:00.840 think ultimately you're looking for three st arders, and that 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:03.120 first round pick you're hoping as a guy that makes 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:05.279 a couple of Pro Bowls. If you're picking in the 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:08.960 top ten, you hope that guy is a perennial Pro bowler. 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:11.200 And if he's the number one pick or a top 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:13.320 three pick, you're hoping he's a future Hall of Famer. 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:16.400 You know, in terms of their first round pick from 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:19.120 a few years ago, he's on the right track. Kyler 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:21.479 Murray has helped improve the team the last few years. 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:24.200 Rookie of the Year, couple Pro Bowls. They've picked up 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:26.400 this fifth year option and we'll see what happens this summer, 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:30.400 whether he gets the Josh Allen Patrick Mahomes money. But 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:35.839 you know, your most important piece for your organization, you've 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:39.560 got that taken care of. And so you look at 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:41.120 the rest of the roster and it's one of the 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:43.440 reasons guys, I don't think that they made these huge 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:47.159 moves in the offseason so far, with the exception of 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:50.960 resigning some of their key pieces. Is the ten and 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:54.520 two record, to quote Ron Wolfley, was real, like you 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:56.719 could put twenty two guys out there right now and 0:05:56.839 --> 0:06:00.240 be a winning football team. And so in this after 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:03.200 you're looking for guys, Okay, is there a hole that 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:06.240 you can fill, Well, there's a whole, a wide receiver, 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:09.000 in my opinion, there's a whole still in my opinion, 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:12.520 on the offensive line, on the defensive line, at corner, 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:15.839 although the Jeff Gladney signing is very very intriguing to me. 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:20.760 So and then second and third round, you know you're 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:23.960 you're looking at best player available, but again you're hoping 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:27.039 that those guys can eventually become starters. I think because 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:30.760 you only have really those first three picks, you know, 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:32.840 the picks in the later rounds are guys that are 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:35.440 developmental players. You know, maybe a strike gold and you 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:39.040 get somebody that can play and help your team. But 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:42.080 the Cardinals are drafting from a position of strength overall 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:45.120 because they were a playoff team last year, and it's 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:48.600 not real obvious which direction they might go. There are 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:51.760 several positions. I mean, you might need more than one 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:54.599 hand account how many positions you could easily see the 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:57.039 Cardinals selecting in the first couple of rounds. In fact, 0:06:57.120 --> 0:07:00.719 that was the question to Steve Kim up positions of 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:03.840 need this year. We all would acknowledge that, you know, 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:07.800 edge rusher, wide receiver, corner, you know, any of those 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:10.200 positions that are you know, they're hard to find. I mean, listen, 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:12.480 when guys get the free agency and they get paid 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:14.560 the kind of money they get, you know, you're looking 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:17.080 at left tackles, corners, you know, guys that are really 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:20.360 hard to find. Obviously, quarterbacks now receivers are playing into 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:22.560 that a little bit. Obviously. You know when you see 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:24.360 some of the salaries that these guys are getting into 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:27.200 the receiver position. If you can get a number one receiver, 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:29.480 there's no reason not to take one. Yeah, you think 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:31.480 a tank of gas is expensive these days. Have you 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:34.120 seen the going rate on wide receivers and edge rushers? Yeah, 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:36.360 it is frightening. Although when he said that, and we 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:38.560 were sitting there in the press gardens, when he's actually 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:41.800 answered the question and name positions and need and he 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:44.600 said edge rusher, receiver, cornerback, I said, you know what 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:47.040 that means. That means Arizona Cardinals they're going to draft 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:50.120 either online or d line in the first round. That's 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:52.800 what that means. Because he thought immediately it was subterfuge, 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:55.280 right ball, right, there was no way we felling the 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:58.320 true exactly guarantees they're going on line in round one. 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:00.880 That was myer action when he when he actually said that. 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:03.400 But it is true. I mean, either you can go 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:05.920 into a draft wolf and you can have every single 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:10.080 position seemingly theoretically buttoned up with veterans right at every 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:13.400 and then, or you can go in with enough open 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:17.720 roster spots where you know, and the Cardinals have purposely 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:20.640 left some of those spots open via free agency or 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:24.760 black thereof where it's not so much of a towel. Yeah, 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:27.640 you know, the Cardinal needs. Let's talk about that for 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:29.360 a second, right, here. First of all, I think they 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:32.679 need Kyler Murray to continue to improve. That's always number 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:36.679 one right there, continue to improve as their franchise quarterback, 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:40.280 and I believe that's going to happen. Number two, edge, 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:45.160 defensive tackle, wide receiver, corner. I think those four right there, 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:47.520 I think they're going to be in a position guys 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:50.640 where they can look at those four positions at number 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:54.640 twenty three and say, Okay, who's the highest rated guy 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:57.240 we have on our board? And I'll bet you there's 0:08:57.240 --> 0:09:01.120 going to be somebody there from one of those four positions. 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:05.160 Just a guess who's the highest rated guyer on our board, 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:07.480 and then they'll take him at number twenty three. I 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:09.920 think that's how they're going to operate, all right, David 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:14.280 Gregory Wolf, I mean, yeah, I agree, Pollie, you're twenty three. 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:17.800 It's a tough position. I think last year they knew 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:20.680 they wanted Davin Collins. There were a couple things, including 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:23.760 the Patriots drafting Mac Jones in front of them that 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:26.920 had to happen for that to work out. And this 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:29.120 year it's a lot different. You know, are there going 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:30.600 to be some guys that slide? Do you have a 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:32.880 couple of players that are coming off injuries. Are they 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:36.720 going to be there? You have a player in Andrew 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:39.199 Booth who is coming off an injury. You think we'll 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:41.679 be ready for the regular season, but will eat drop 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:45.360 maybe because some teams aren't sure about whether they want 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:47.520 to draft somebody that they're not sure will be available 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:50.840 for camp or Week one, and then maybe have somebody 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:53.600 that other teams have in the late twenties or early 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:56.480 thirties that you absolutely love and that if he's there 0:09:56.480 --> 0:10:00.160 at twenty three, you're gonna be You're gonna be so 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:03.360 happy that he was available, and you can make that thick. 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:06.040 So I think that ultimately they're gonna take They're gonna 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:08.800 probably have several positions of need up there that they're 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:10.680 going to look at that board who they have there, 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:13.400 and I have a feeling that there's going to be 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:15.680 a player that they have ranked in the top fifteen 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:18.840 that's going to slide to twenty three. Dave, can I 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:21.439 say this that, and once again you're gonna agree or 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:23.520 disagree here. If you look at the Cardinals roster depth 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:26.920 chart is currently constructed, they have enough starting corners now 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:29.040 with the signing to Jeff Gladden, you mentioned that they 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:32.400 have a starting crew of receivers right now, aj Green 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:34.720 and Rondale Moore might not have enough depth. You know, 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:37.360 they have an offensive line with Will Hernandez Now and 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:40.240 Justin Pugh as your guards. And you're said, okay, but 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:43.959 do they have a legitimate book and edge rusher to 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:47.760 go along with Marcus Golden? I would say no, And 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:50.440 to me, I would say that is a glaring need 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:54.839 for the Cardinals at this point, is edge rusher? Can 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:57.400 I just say I agree? But at the same time, 0:10:57.640 --> 0:11:02.080 can you count on one of the top guys following 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:05.120 you at twenty three? You know, you feel if you're 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:08.400 reaching at twenty three with a couple of players. Is 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:11.280 George karlotis a guy that you know I saw play 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:15.200 in person this year, a guy that's a great story, 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:19.079 that's a former water polo champion. Like his lower body 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:22.480 strength is ridiculous. He actually reminds me of a smaller 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:24.520 version of JJ Watt. I've heard a lot of people 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:29.000 talk about Ryan Carrigan, but he's got some Watt characteristics too. 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:32.920 But is he a reach? You know in terms of 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:35.880 his skill level, you know, he's not probably in the 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:37.920 same class with some of these other guys, or are 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:42.120 you reaching for him at twenty three rather than maybe 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:44.960 taking somebody like a Johan Dotson who could be there. 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:49.320 Who Yeah, you have Rondale Moore and AJ Green and 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:53.800 DeAndre Hopkins. But you know for sure that in terms 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:56.079 of value what you're getting at twenty three with a 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:59.320 player like carlottis maybe you're not. Maybe you could get 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:01.040 him at twenty eight or maybe even in the early 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:03.720 second round. That's just one example. But I'm with you, 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:08.400 Polly Edge. Rusher is a glaring need. And by the way, 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:11.040 Dave mentioned the news on Kyla Murray. The Cardinals did 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:13.680 officially pick up the fifth year team option on Kyler, 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:16.680 largely a formality, so he's under contract this year and 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:20.280 next season that twenty twenty three salary about twenty nine 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:24.120 million guaranteed. Of course, it's this year's salary of five 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:27.960 point five million in salary and bonuses that has been 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:31.040 the subject of his agents hire and we'll see if 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:34.600 that leads to the Mondo contract extension in the off season. 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:37.920 This coming weekend, it's the Draft Weekend Country Concert presented 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:41.600 by Sea Geek featuring Ryan Hurd, Lanco and Callista Clark. 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:44.640 It's this Saturday on the Great Lawn State Farm Stadium. 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:47.920 For tickets and info, go to Sportsman's parkas dot com. 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:51.560 That is Sportsman's PARKAZ dot com. Just getting rolling here. 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:54.720 On the Big Red Rage, Weird Steve Kime named positions 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:57.920 of need. We'll name some names. Next the Big Red 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:00.480 Rage with Dave Patch, I'll presented by Sam tan Ford 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:06.760 and Gilbert We are San tan Ford. I want to 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:09.520 thank you for all the hard work and effort that 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:12.240 you guys put into not only building this board, but 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:14.440 the time that you guys spent on the road. The 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:17.000 work that you guys do and the information that you 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:21.760 guys gather is really the lifeblood of this organization. The 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:25.480 combine is designed in a way where it's it's difficult 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:28.320 to be successful one hundred percent of the time. You 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:30.880 may have a bad interview, you may have a bad lift, 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:33.439 you may run a bad time. On my end, I 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:35.120 want to see you guys who pushed through that grid. 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:37.240 These are some of the notes that we took and 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:39.880 had some of the offensive linemen go over with Coach Coogler. 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:42.240 It's very enlightening because you see, like Wow, this kid 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:44.439 is on top of the stuff and the football intelligence 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:46.520 just kind of comes through. You try to make sure 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:48.840 they enjoy the moment, because there's a lot of young 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:50.760 men that would be dying to have the same opportunity 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:52.120 they have at the end of the day, Like we've 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:54.280 always talked about, when that guy goes up there with 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:59.080 his final grade, that's a cardinal grade. Cardinal's flight plan. 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:03.240 It dropped TI Noon Today, Season five, Episode two, All 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:06.960 access available now via the Cardinals YouTube channel. That's YouTube 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:10.640 dot com, slash a Z Cardinals. You heard Steve Kim 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:13.640 and there Quinn Harri's VP of Player Personnel, Ryan Gold 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:17.200 college scouting coordinator, and then of course Cliff Kingsbury. It 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:19.800 is a big red rage presented by Santan Ford in 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:23.240 Gilbert You're truly Paul CALVC, Ron Wolfley and special guest 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:26.000 Dave Pash Voice of the Cardinals chopping it up about 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:29.720 NFL Draft two twenty two. And if you talk about 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:32.560 the Cardinals, there's a lot of speculation guys that they're 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:35.120 going to go offense, mainly because they went defense the 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:37.640 last two years. Now. I'm not really seeing the correlation 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:39.480 or the reasoning behind that, but that seems to be 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:42.680 a popular opinion and if they do go offense, then 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:46.440 most likely they're going to go oh line or receiver. Okay, 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:49.120 I'll buy into that. And that was the question this 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:53.000 week to Drew Stant, former Cardinals quarterback Cardinals broadcast on 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:55.840 The Red Sea Report with Craig Grilou, and the question 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:59.200 from gree was, look, as a quarterback, if you were 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:02.320 presented with top wide receiver round one pick or a 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:04.960 top old lineman in round one, which direction would you 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:08.680 go as the QB? And he said, immediately, I would 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:12.400 go old lineman every time. Wolf. That's what Drew Stan said. 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:15.000 He said he was of the opinion you can find 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:19.240 a quality, difference making receiver in later rounds, but it's 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:21.840 much tougher to find that sort of offensive lineman in 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:24.720 later rounds. Hence you've got that guy at number twenty 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:28.760 three pulled the trigger. Yeah, Polly, listen, offensive line, it's 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:31.880 so important right now you've got a quarterback like Kyler Murray. 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:35.440 You've got to invest in Kyler Murray as well offensively. 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:39.080 When you think about it, you have to protect Kyler Murray. 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:42.280 And I think we all would admit that having a 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:47.000 strong pocket, especially an interior pocket, is a must for 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:50.560 Kyler Murray because there's no doubt about it. Kyler Murray 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:53.200 is a guy that needs to continue to develop from 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:56.080 the pocket. You need to protect him. The best way 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:58.560 to do that is with an offensive lineman. Now, I 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:01.680 will say the second best way to actually do that 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:04.720 is to get a wide receiver that gets open, gets 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:08.200 opened quickly, and suddenly goes through progression and the ball 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:12.560 comes out. So having a wide receiver that knows how 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:15.600 to win, that's really really important. But they already got 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:19.480 that guy. It's d hop DeAndre Hopkins knows how to 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:22.440 win and how to win quickly is short to intermediate 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:25.640 stuff is fantastic. And you know what, Dave, to Wolf's point, 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:28.960 the last impression we had of the Cardinals the playoff 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:34.080 loss was ninety nine Aaron Donna just wrecking the game, 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:38.240 just bumb rushing the Cardinals from that interior defensive line spot. 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:41.480 So if you're saying, you know what, the final impression 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:44.480 is a lasting impression, we got to bolster the interior line. 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:46.680 And you're gonna go with one of these guys Zion 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:49.640 Johnson out of Boston College or you know, Kenyan Green 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:52.960 right out of Texas saying, you know those two guys. 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:55.400 I mean, that would make a lot of sense, would 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:59.640 it not, Dave. I like both guys you mentioned Paul, 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:02.800 and remember you've got a stud o line coach in 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:06.640 Sean Coogler who can help these guys develop. Here's another 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:10.240 player that I would love if he's there, because I'm 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:15.160 so intrigued by him. Is Tyler Linderbaum, the center from Iowa. 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:19.359 Rodney Hudson's going to be thirty three by training camp, 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:23.880 and yet Tyler Linderbaum is somehow there because maybe some 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:27.680 people think he's undersized that this guy is. First of all, 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:30.119 he played in the bowl game and knowing he was 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:32.520 gonna be a tough first round pick, and then he 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:35.159 got hurt in the bowl game and came back in 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:37.879 the fourth quarter to help his team win. Wow. This 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:40.560 guy was a wrestler in high school who beat Tristan 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:46.040 Worse in wrestling in high school. I love this kid 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:51.119 now again, you know, can you plug him in? And 0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:53.680 can you play your best five? Can you figure out 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:55.760 how to play guard? Can Rodney Hudson play guard? I 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:58.320 don't know, but I'm just saying that that guy's there 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:01.400 and I probably won't be I'm taking a long, hard 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:03.520 look but the other two players you mentioned, Paul I 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:07.320 like both those guys, and again you've got an offensive 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:10.520 line coach who can help develop these young guys. And 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:14.320 I'm not giving up on Josh Jones Jess yet either. 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:16.600 I want to see another year out of Josh Shones. Yeah, 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:18.879 I just want to see Josh Jones a tackle. I 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:22.000 just don't think guard his spot, at least based on 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:24.120 last year. But you know what's interesting about that center 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:26.520 position is that Steve Kimes said during the press comers 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:28.639 and once upon a time he was of the opinion 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:30.439 that a first round draft pick should only go to 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:33.160 a quarterback, of left tackle and edge rusher or a corner, 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:35.720 but then he realized last year the importance of a 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:40.119 quality center. Yeah, and the difference Rodney Hudson made. And 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:42.160 at Dave's point is at the end of his career, 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:45.360 he's towards the end of his contract, he's expensive. That 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:48.880 would make sense, would it not, Wolf, Well, it would Pauli. Yet, 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:51.159 at the same time, do you think Rodney Hudson is 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:53.800 going to help the Arizona Cardinals win this year? In 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:55.840 twenty twenty two, do you think he's going to help 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:59.160 them win and get to the playoffs. I think, yes, 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:01.960 I don't think he's He's a guy that I look 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:05.480 at as a liability. He's not at that point in 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:08.360 his career right now. So I look at him and think, Okay, 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:10.960 where are you gonna play Tyler Linderbaum? Where are you 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:13.480 gonna play him? You're gonna play him at guard six 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:18.879 two under three hundred pounds. Um, I don't know about that. Guys, 0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:22.439 that's a scary proposition right there. Let wrestle when you 0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:25.439 have ninety nine in this division, I say, let him 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:27.360 wrestle Aaron Donald to the ground. You know what I mean? 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:30.280 Man just said him. Okay, So if not on line 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:33.320 in its offense, then it's got to be wide receiver. Wolf. 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:35.840 Do you have a favorite, a guy who's realistic at 0:19:35.960 --> 0:19:39.359 number twenty, Oh, Paulie, there are There's no doubt about it. 0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:41.760 There are some guys that I hope are going to 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:46.520 be there, and I would say that, Um, Drake London 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:49.439 is one of those guys. I doubt that Drake London 0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:52.840 is going to fall that far. He reminds me so much. 0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:55.160 I'm sorry, but he reminds me of a bigger version 0:19:55.160 --> 0:19:59.280 of DeAndre Hopkins. Well, you watch him go about his business, 0:19:59.520 --> 0:20:02.480 you watch him run his routes. He catches the ball 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:05.959 in traffic as well as any other receiver in this draft. 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:09.760 He runs good routes. He's a big target. He's a 0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:12.920 guy that I think has some sneaky speed. He's not 0:20:13.040 --> 0:20:15.440 a guy that is a four four guy or sub 0:20:15.520 --> 0:20:19.600 four four guy, but he does have some sneaky speed. 0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:22.680 Fast enough speed, as we used to call it. Jerry 0:20:22.800 --> 0:20:25.600 Rice was a guy who what he was timed running 0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:28.760 a four six forty coming out of college and yet 0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:32.560 ran by everybody to get to the ball. I think 0:20:32.680 --> 0:20:34.960 Drake London has an awful lot of that in him. 0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:39.399 Drake London and Chris Alava, those two guys I think 0:20:39.800 --> 0:20:42.080 have the possibility of being there at twenty three, and 0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:45.080 I like him both. I don't know, it might be 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:47.760 a little optimistic, Dave On, I know you think about that. 0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:51.560 I've even seen some recent draft mock drafts that have 0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:54.640 had Jamison Williams spawn to the Cardinals at twenty three 0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:57.520 because of the Acli Soldiery. I mean, that would be 0:20:57.560 --> 0:20:59.679 an absolute for me. I'm with you on that, Wolf, 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:01.880 But you know, Dave, I know you've seen a lot 0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:05.360 of these guys like, for example, most of these mocktrasts say, 0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:07.760