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Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Paul? Who among us is
Speaker 1: so done with mock drafts. I'm raising my head right now,
Speaker 1: very high. Paul, raising it very high. Keep that arm
Speaker 1: high in the air. When I ask who is ready
Speaker 1: for a real draft? Fact I might use this stick
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Speaker 1: I'm most definitely giving up mock drafts. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: that right here. In fact, the NFL Network just wrapped
Speaker 1: up a one hour special featuring Daniel Jeremiah's final first
Speaker 1: round selections and Ron Wolfley. Yeah, I think you're intrigued
Speaker 1: to know envelope please the Arizona Cardinals select George Carloftis
Speaker 1: from Perdue. Wow. Okay, well you know what's a lot
Speaker 1: of people are mocking him to the Cardinals at number
Speaker 1: twenty three. Polly, Yeah, so no doubt about it. We
Speaker 1: know two things for sure right now, it'swas the night
Speaker 1: before the NFL Draft. We know two things. One, there's
Speaker 1: as much uncertainty as any year ever, right. You hear
Speaker 1: that over and over. And number two, we say, Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: we'll find a way to screw it up. They will
Speaker 1: screw up the number one pick. They'll take Trey Von
Speaker 1: Walker will end up overpaid and underwhelming. That will happen.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling Actually, there's one other thing we know
Speaker 1: for sure, and that is every Wednesday before the NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: we do a very special edition of the Big Red
Speaker 1: Rage that has now become tradition, has it not, Ron
Speaker 1: wolf Lea, where we bring in the voice of the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, your cohort up there in the booth, mister
Speaker 1: Dave Pass joins us tonight on the Big Red Rage,
Speaker 1: presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert. Good evening, Dave, Good evening, gentlemen,
Speaker 1: how are we doing. I'm with you, guys. I'm ready
Speaker 1: for the mob trafts to be over with. I can't
Speaker 1: wait for tomorrow. Yeah, season starts tomorrow night. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I'll be out of the draft party. So it starts
Speaker 1: at State Farm Stadium. The season is going to end
Speaker 1: at State Farm Stadium with Super Bowl fifty seven. Now,
Speaker 1: you just got to figure out the in between and
Speaker 1: when you talk about the big picture for the Big
Speaker 1: Red guys, let's just hit zoom out here for a minute.
Speaker 1: Wolf What do you think the Cardinals need to come
Speaker 1: out of this draft with? What are the app I mean,
Speaker 1: there's wants and needs. What are the absolute muss when
Speaker 1: you come out of this draft. Yeah, you know what, Polly, Honestly,
Speaker 1: you know how I feel about rookies to begin with, guys.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just I've been jaded. I've been jaded
Speaker 1: by so many guys that we're going to come in
Speaker 1: and there, we're gonna change the entire team. This was
Speaker 1: it that we're gonna come in there, we're gonna make
Speaker 1: the impact, that we're going to be the difference between
Speaker 1: us being five and eleven and eleven and five, and
Speaker 1: there was just one problem. They couldn't play. So I
Speaker 1: don't get too jacked up over the whole rookie thing,
Speaker 1: even though it is so exciting. There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 1: So I feel like I need to say that first Paulli. Secondly,
Speaker 1: they need a player that is going to contribute immediately.
Speaker 1: That's what I want to say. I want to see
Speaker 1: somebody that is going to contribute in September, and when
Speaker 1: I say that, gets significant snaps in September and maybe
Speaker 1: be a starter by October. I want to see that. Well,
Speaker 1: and you know what, that's asking for quite a bit
Speaker 1: based on the last two years, because that was not
Speaker 1: the case with the Isaiah Simmons and then Zamon Collins.
Speaker 1: You know there has been a learning curve with those.
Speaker 1: A lot of that is by position. Paulli, it's so
Speaker 1: difficult to come in and play middle linebacker in the
Speaker 1: National Football League after playing at college. Dave, what do
Speaker 1: you think, big picture? What do you hope the Cardinals
Speaker 1: come out with When you're sitting there Saturday evening and
Speaker 1: having one of your nice glasses of wine, what do
Speaker 1: you hope you're celebrating. Well, you look at those three
Speaker 1: picks they have in the first three rounds, and I
Speaker 1: think ultimately you're looking for three st arders, and that
Speaker 1: first round pick you're hoping as a guy that makes
Speaker 1: a couple of Pro Bowls. If you're picking in the
Speaker 1: top ten, you hope that guy is a perennial Pro bowler.
Speaker 1: And if he's the number one pick or a top
Speaker 1: three pick, you're hoping he's a future Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1: You know, in terms of their first round pick from
Speaker 1: a few years ago, he's on the right track. Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray has helped improve the team the last few years.
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year, couple Pro Bowls. They've picked up
Speaker 1: this fifth year option and we'll see what happens this summer,
Speaker 1: whether he gets the Josh Allen Patrick Mahomes money. But
Speaker 1: you know, your most important piece for your organization, you've
Speaker 1: got that taken care of. And so you look at
Speaker 1: the rest of the roster and it's one of the
Speaker 1: reasons guys, I don't think that they made these huge
Speaker 1: moves in the offseason so far, with the exception of
Speaker 1: resigning some of their key pieces. Is the ten and
Speaker 1: two record, to quote Ron Wolfley, was real, like you
Speaker 1: could put twenty two guys out there right now and
Speaker 1: be a winning football team. And so in this after
Speaker 1: you're looking for guys, Okay, is there a hole that
Speaker 1: you can fill, Well, there's a whole, a wide receiver,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, there's a whole still in my opinion,
Speaker 1: on the offensive line, on the defensive line, at corner,
Speaker 1: although the Jeff Gladney signing is very very intriguing to me.
Speaker 1: So and then second and third round, you know you're
Speaker 1: you're looking at best player available, but again you're hoping
Speaker 1: that those guys can eventually become starters. I think because
Speaker 1: you only have really those first three picks, you know,
Speaker 1: the picks in the later rounds are guys that are
Speaker 1: developmental players. You know, maybe a strike gold and you
Speaker 1: get somebody that can play and help your team. But
Speaker 1: the Cardinals are drafting from a position of strength overall
Speaker 1: because they were a playoff team last year, and it's
Speaker 1: not real obvious which direction they might go. There are
Speaker 1: several positions. I mean, you might need more than one
Speaker 1: hand account how many positions you could easily see the
Speaker 1: Cardinals selecting in the first couple of rounds. In fact,
Speaker 1: that was the question to Steve Kim up positions of
Speaker 1: need this year. We all would acknowledge that, you know,
Speaker 1: edge rusher, wide receiver, corner, you know, any of those
Speaker 1: positions that are you know, they're hard to find. I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: when guys get the free agency and they get paid
Speaker 1: the kind of money they get, you know, you're looking
Speaker 1: at left tackles, corners, you know, guys that are really
Speaker 1: hard to find. Obviously, quarterbacks now receivers are playing into
Speaker 1: that a little bit. Obviously. You know when you see
Speaker 1: some of the salaries that these guys are getting into
Speaker 1: the receiver position. If you can get a number one receiver,
Speaker 1: there's no reason not to take one. Yeah, you think
Speaker 1: a tank of gas is expensive these days. Have you
Speaker 1: seen the going rate on wide receivers and edge rushers? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is frightening. Although when he said that, and we
Speaker 1: were sitting there in the press gardens, when he's actually
Speaker 1: answered the question and name positions and need and he
Speaker 1: said edge rusher, receiver, cornerback, I said, you know what
Speaker 1: that means. That means Arizona Cardinals they're going to draft
Speaker 1: either online or d line in the first round. That's
Speaker 1: what that means. Because he thought immediately it was subterfuge,
Speaker 1: right ball, right, there was no way we felling the
Speaker 1: true exactly guarantees they're going on line in round one.
Speaker 1: That was myer action when he when he actually said that.
Speaker 1: But it is true. I mean, either you can go
Speaker 1: into a draft wolf and you can have every single
Speaker 1: position seemingly theoretically buttoned up with veterans right at every
Speaker 1: and then, or you can go in with enough open
Speaker 1: roster spots where you know, and the Cardinals have purposely
Speaker 1: left some of those spots open via free agency or
Speaker 1: black thereof where it's not so much of a towel. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, the Cardinal needs. Let's talk about that for
Speaker 1: a second, right, here. First of all, I think they
Speaker 1: need Kyler Murray to continue to improve. That's always number
Speaker 1: one right there, continue to improve as their franchise quarterback,
Speaker 1: and I believe that's going to happen. Number two, edge,
Speaker 1: defensive tackle, wide receiver, corner. I think those four right there,
Speaker 1: I think they're going to be in a position guys
Speaker 1: where they can look at those four positions at number
Speaker 1: twenty three and say, Okay, who's the highest rated guy
Speaker 1: we have on our board? And I'll bet you there's
Speaker 1: going to be somebody there from one of those four positions.
Speaker 1: Just a guess who's the highest rated guyer on our board,
Speaker 1: and then they'll take him at number twenty three. I
Speaker 1: think that's how they're going to operate, all right, David
Speaker 1: Gregory Wolf, I mean, yeah, I agree, Pollie, you're twenty three.
Speaker 1: It's a tough position. I think last year they knew
Speaker 1: they wanted Davin Collins. There were a couple things, including
Speaker 1: the Patriots drafting Mac Jones in front of them that
Speaker 1: had to happen for that to work out. And this
Speaker 1: year it's a lot different. You know, are there going
Speaker 1: to be some guys that slide? Do you have a
Speaker 1: couple of players that are coming off injuries. Are they
Speaker 1: going to be there? You have a player in Andrew
Speaker 1: Booth who is coming off an injury. You think we'll
Speaker 1: be ready for the regular season, but will eat drop
Speaker 1: maybe because some teams aren't sure about whether they want
Speaker 1: to draft somebody that they're not sure will be available
Speaker 1: for camp or Week one, and then maybe have somebody
Speaker 1: that other teams have in the late twenties or early
Speaker 1: thirties that you absolutely love and that if he's there
Speaker 1: at twenty three, you're gonna be You're gonna be so
Speaker 1: happy that he was available, and you can make that thick.
Speaker 1: So I think that ultimately they're gonna take They're gonna
Speaker 1: probably have several positions of need up there that they're
Speaker 1: going to look at that board who they have there,
Speaker 1: and I have a feeling that there's going to be
Speaker 1: a player that they have ranked in the top fifteen
Speaker 1: that's going to slide to twenty three. Dave, can I
Speaker 1: say this that, and once again you're gonna agree or
Speaker 1: disagree here. If you look at the Cardinals roster depth
Speaker 1: chart is currently constructed, they have enough starting corners now
Speaker 1: with the signing to Jeff Gladden, you mentioned that they
Speaker 1: have a starting crew of receivers right now, aj Green
Speaker 1: and Rondale Moore might not have enough depth. You know,
Speaker 1: they have an offensive line with Will Hernandez Now and
Speaker 1: Justin Pugh as your guards. And you're said, okay, but
Speaker 1: do they have a legitimate book and edge rusher to
Speaker 1: go along with Marcus Golden? I would say no, And
Speaker 1: to me, I would say that is a glaring need
Speaker 1: for the Cardinals at this point, is edge rusher? Can
Speaker 1: I just say I agree? But at the same time,
Speaker 1: can you count on one of the top guys following
Speaker 1: you at twenty three? You know, you feel if you're
Speaker 1: reaching at twenty three with a couple of players. Is
Speaker 1: George karlotis a guy that you know I saw play
Speaker 1: in person this year, a guy that's a great story,
Speaker 1: that's a former water polo champion. Like his lower body
Speaker 1: strength is ridiculous. He actually reminds me of a smaller
Speaker 1: version of JJ Watt. I've heard a lot of people
Speaker 1: talk about Ryan Carrigan, but he's got some Watt characteristics too.
Speaker 1: But is he a reach? You know in terms of
Speaker 1: his skill level, you know, he's not probably in the
Speaker 1: same class with some of these other guys, or are
Speaker 1: you reaching for him at twenty three rather than maybe
Speaker 1: taking somebody like a Johan Dotson who could be there.
Speaker 1: Who Yeah, you have Rondale Moore and AJ Green and
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins. But you know for sure that in terms
Speaker 1: of value what you're getting at twenty three with a
Speaker 1: player like carlottis maybe you're not. Maybe you could get
Speaker 1: him at twenty eight or maybe even in the early
Speaker 1: second round. That's just one example. But I'm with you,
Speaker 1: Polly Edge. Rusher is a glaring need. And by the way,
Speaker 1: Dave mentioned the news on Kyla Murray. The Cardinals did
Speaker 1: officially pick up the fifth year team option on Kyler,
Speaker 1: largely a formality, so he's under contract this year and
Speaker 1: next season that twenty twenty three salary about twenty nine
Speaker 1: million guaranteed. Of course, it's this year's salary of five
Speaker 1: point five million in salary and bonuses that has been
Speaker 1: the subject of his agents hire and we'll see if
Speaker 1: that leads to the Mondo contract extension in the off season.
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Speaker 1: Dave Pash Voice of the Cardinals chopping it up about
Speaker 1: NFL Draft two twenty two. And if you talk about
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, there's a lot of speculation guys that they're
Speaker 1: going to go offense, mainly because they went defense the
Speaker 1: last two years. Now. I'm not really seeing the correlation
Speaker 1: or the reasoning behind that, but that seems to be
Speaker 1: a popular opinion and if they do go offense, then
Speaker 1: most likely they're going to go oh line or receiver. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll buy into that. And that was the question this
Speaker 1: week to Drew Stant, former Cardinals quarterback Cardinals broadcast on
Speaker 1: The Red Sea Report with Craig Grilou, and the question
Speaker 1: from gree was, look, as a quarterback, if you were
Speaker 1: presented with top wide receiver round one pick or a
Speaker 1: top old lineman in round one, which direction would you
Speaker 1: go as the QB? And he said, immediately, I would
Speaker 1: go old lineman every time. Wolf. That's what Drew Stan said.
Speaker 1: He said he was of the opinion you can find
Speaker 1: a quality, difference making receiver in later rounds, but it's
Speaker 1: much tougher to find that sort of offensive lineman in
Speaker 1: later rounds. Hence you've got that guy at number twenty
Speaker 1: three pulled the trigger. Yeah, Polly, listen, offensive line, it's
Speaker 1: so important right now you've got a quarterback like Kyler Murray.
Speaker 1: You've got to invest in Kyler Murray as well offensively.
Speaker 1: When you think about it, you have to protect Kyler Murray.
Speaker 1: And I think we all would admit that having a
Speaker 1: strong pocket, especially an interior pocket, is a must for
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray because there's no doubt about it. Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: is a guy that needs to continue to develop from
Speaker 1: the pocket. You need to protect him. The best way
Speaker 1: to do that is with an offensive lineman. Now, I
Speaker 1: will say the second best way to actually do that
Speaker 1: is to get a wide receiver that gets open, gets
Speaker 1: opened quickly, and suddenly goes through progression and the ball
Speaker 1: comes out. So having a wide receiver that knows how
Speaker 1: to win, that's really really important. But they already got
Speaker 1: that guy. It's d hop DeAndre Hopkins knows how to
Speaker 1: win and how to win quickly is short to intermediate
Speaker 1: stuff is fantastic. And you know what, Dave, to Wolf's point,
Speaker 1: the last impression we had of the Cardinals the playoff
Speaker 1: loss was ninety nine Aaron Donna just wrecking the game,
Speaker 1: just bumb rushing the Cardinals from that interior defensive line spot.
Speaker 1: So if you're saying, you know what, the final impression
Speaker 1: is a lasting impression, we got to bolster the interior line.
Speaker 1: And you're gonna go with one of these guys Zion
Speaker 1: Johnson out of Boston College or you know, Kenyan Green
Speaker 1: right out of Texas saying, you know those two guys.
Speaker 1: I mean, that would make a lot of sense, would
Speaker 1: it not, Dave. I like both guys you mentioned Paul,
Speaker 1: and remember you've got a stud o line coach in
Speaker 1: Sean Coogler who can help these guys develop. Here's another
Speaker 1: player that I would love if he's there, because I'm
Speaker 1: so intrigued by him. Is Tyler Linderbaum, the center from Iowa.
Speaker 1: Rodney Hudson's going to be thirty three by training camp,
Speaker 1: and yet Tyler Linderbaum is somehow there because maybe some
Speaker 1: people think he's undersized that this guy is. First of all,
Speaker 1: he played in the bowl game and knowing he was
Speaker 1: gonna be a tough first round pick, and then he
Speaker 1: got hurt in the bowl game and came back in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter to help his team win. Wow. This
Speaker 1: guy was a wrestler in high school who beat Tristan
Speaker 1: Worse in wrestling in high school. I love this kid
Speaker 1: now again, you know, can you plug him in? And
Speaker 1: can you play your best five? Can you figure out
Speaker 1: how to play guard? Can Rodney Hudson play guard? I
Speaker 1: don't know, but I'm just saying that that guy's there
Speaker 1: and I probably won't be I'm taking a long, hard
Speaker 1: look but the other two players you mentioned, Paul I
Speaker 1: like both those guys, and again you've got an offensive
Speaker 1: line coach who can help develop these young guys. And
Speaker 1: I'm not giving up on Josh Jones Jess yet either.
Speaker 1: I want to see another year out of Josh Shones. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just want to see Josh Jones a tackle. I
Speaker 1: just don't think guard his spot, at least based on
Speaker 1: last year. But you know what's interesting about that center
Speaker 1: position is that Steve Kimes said during the press comers
Speaker 1: and once upon a time he was of the opinion
Speaker 1: that a first round draft pick should only go to
Speaker 1: a quarterback, of left tackle and edge rusher or a corner,
Speaker 1: but then he realized last year the importance of a
Speaker 1: quality center. Yeah, and the difference Rodney Hudson made. And
Speaker 1: at Dave's point is at the end of his career,
Speaker 1: he's towards the end of his contract, he's expensive. That
Speaker 1: would make sense, would it not, Wolf, Well, it would Pauli. Yet,
Speaker 1: at the same time, do you think Rodney Hudson is
Speaker 1: going to help the Arizona Cardinals win this year? In
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, do you think he's going to help
Speaker 1: them win and get to the playoffs. I think, yes,
Speaker 1: I don't think he's He's a guy that I look
Speaker 1: at as a liability. He's not at that point in
Speaker 1: his career right now. So I look at him and think, Okay,
Speaker 1: where are you gonna play Tyler Linderbaum? Where are you
Speaker 1: gonna play him? You're gonna play him at guard six
Speaker 1: two under three hundred pounds. Um, I don't know about that. Guys,
Speaker 1: that's a scary proposition right there. Let wrestle when you
Speaker 1: have ninety nine in this division, I say, let him
Speaker 1: wrestle Aaron Donald to the ground. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Man just said him. Okay, So if not on line
Speaker 1: in its offense, then it's got to be wide receiver. Wolf.
Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite, a guy who's realistic at
Speaker 1: number twenty, Oh, Paulie, there are There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: There are some guys that I hope are going to
Speaker 1: be there, and I would say that, Um, Drake London
Speaker 1: is one of those guys. I doubt that Drake London
Speaker 1: is going to fall that far. He reminds me so much.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but he reminds me of a bigger version
Speaker 1: of DeAndre Hopkins. Well, you watch him go about his business,
Speaker 1: you watch him run his routes. He catches the ball
Speaker 1: in traffic as well as any other receiver in this draft.
Speaker 1: He runs good routes. He's a big target. He's a
Speaker 1: guy that I think has some sneaky speed. He's not
Speaker 1: a guy that is a four four guy or sub
Speaker 1: four four guy, but he does have some sneaky speed.
Speaker 1: Fast enough speed, as we used to call it. Jerry
Speaker 1: Rice was a guy who what he was timed running
Speaker 1: a four six forty coming out of college and yet
Speaker 1: ran by everybody to get to the ball. I think
Speaker 1: Drake London has an awful lot of that in him.
Speaker 1: Drake London and Chris Alava, those two guys I think
Speaker 1: have the possibility of being there at twenty three, and
Speaker 1: I like him both. I don't know, it might be
Speaker 1: a little optimistic, Dave On, I know you think about that.
Speaker 1: I've even seen some recent draft mock drafts that have
Speaker 1: had Jamison Williams spawn to the Cardinals at twenty three
Speaker 1: because of the Acli Soldiery. I mean, that would be
Speaker 1: an absolute for me. I'm with you on that, Wolf,
Speaker 1: But you know, Dave, I know you've seen a lot
Speaker 1: of these guys like, for example, most of these mocktrasts say,
Speaker 1: if there's a receiver available at twenty three, it'll be
Speaker 1: either Traylon Burks at Arkansas or Johan Dotson at a
Speaker 1: Penn State. Do you have an opinion on either guy?
Speaker 1: Give me Johan Dotson all day. Really, Traylon Burkes he
Speaker 1: might end up being a tight end. I don't know
Speaker 1: if that he fits exactly with what the Cardinals want
Speaker 1: at that receiver position. Where John Dotson, I think there's
Speaker 1: some questions about his size and his you know, play strength,
Speaker 1: as the scouts like to say, But man, he's got
Speaker 1: some speed and he's got great hands. I'd be shocked
Speaker 1: if Drake London's there. I can't imagine him there. I'd
Speaker 1: be pretty I'd be surprised. Well if if a lobby
Speaker 1: was a lobby was there too. Dotson. There's a chance.
Speaker 1: The Jamison Williams thing is so interesting because unless you're
Speaker 1: a team that was in the playoffs already, you're gonna
Speaker 1: take a guy that you don't know if he's going
Speaker 1: to play at all this year, and if he does,
Speaker 1: it's probably going to be a November. The Cardinals had
Speaker 1: the luxury where you can take him. The thing is
Speaker 1: the guy probably if he's healthy, is Jamar Chase. He's
Speaker 1: probably a top five pick and a pro bowler and
Speaker 1: a guy that immediately lifts your team to being a
Speaker 1: super Bowl contender. He's that good. So if he's there,
Speaker 1: obviously a grab. I just don't think he will. But
Speaker 1: Dotson and then don't sleep on Christian Watson either. He's big,
Speaker 1: from North Dakota State, He's fast, he fits into their jet,
Speaker 1: sweet stuff wolf. I like him again. The thing that
Speaker 1: you don't know about is you know how he's going
Speaker 1: to do it, you know, playing elite competition every week.
Speaker 1: I honestly, David, I think I'd love to see them
Speaker 1: take a guy where his floor is high, right. I
Speaker 1: mean this is something that Kyle van de Bosch has
Speaker 1: been talking about. I love the image of saying he's
Speaker 1: got to have a high floor. Forget about the ceiling
Speaker 1: and how high the ceiling might be. Get a guy
Speaker 1: at number twenty three that has a high floor. I
Speaker 1: love that imagery right there, and I think that's something
Speaker 1: they've got to look at. A guy that is a
Speaker 1: proven commodity, a guy that is a low risk pick.
Speaker 1: There's nothing that's a guarantee. There's never gonna be a guarantee,
Speaker 1: but a low risk pick. In other words, get a
Speaker 1: guy you think is going to be a starter for
Speaker 1: ten years on your team. Yeah, and this class of
Speaker 1: receivers is considered one of the most robust in last
Speaker 1: decade plus. The question, I think what's greater the depth
Speaker 1: of quality receivers or the demand four receivers, Because my
Speaker 1: big fear at twenty three is four. The five teams
Speaker 1: in front of you could easily go receiver Philly at
Speaker 1: eighteen New Orleans and nineteen Patriots at twenty one, Packers
Speaker 1: at twenty two. In fact, when Steve Kim said during
Speaker 1: the press confer and say, you know, we've had some
Speaker 1: offers and some conversations maybe about trading up four or
Speaker 1: five spots, I said, yep, ding because those four or
Speaker 1: five teams in front of you all receiver. So if
Speaker 1: that's your target position, I could see that happening. Then again,
Speaker 1: it's so deep that guys, I was watching NFL Network
Speaker 1: earlier this week and you had James Jones on their
Speaker 1: NFL Network analysts, longtime NFL receiver. He said, the best
Speaker 1: receiver in the draft quote end quote is sky More
Speaker 1: out of Western Michigan, Okay. And then he went on
Speaker 1: to say that George Pickens from Georgia will be a
Speaker 1: future All Pro receiver. Now he had an injury played
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, But Dave, I'm wondering George Pickens, who
Speaker 1: has been liking aj Green effect. He was on the
Speaker 1: Ajan Green Family Football Scholarship while at Georgia six five,
Speaker 1: round A four four, seven forty. He's a guy who's
Speaker 1: been highly skilled, a few issues off the field. I'm
Speaker 1: wondering he might even fallen around two and be available. Perhaps, Well,
Speaker 1: James Jones works out of my gym. I'll have to
Speaker 1: bring up the fact that he also said that Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray's played his last down as a Cardinal, So I'm
Speaker 1: not sure that his information that's absolutely right. I forgot
Speaker 1: about that. So, I mean, look at the players though
Speaker 1: you mentioned mean they're good players. I look, it just
Speaker 1: comes down to value, and at twenty three, it doesn't
Speaker 1: mean that you know, sky Moore and Pickens and even
Speaker 1: John Metchi from Alabama who's probably not a first round pick.
Speaker 1: You know, are you going to spend number twenty three
Speaker 1: on them? Or do you think that maybe you can get.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Cardinals have a history two guys of
Speaker 1: moving up in the second round. Now, they don't have
Speaker 1: a lot of picks, but they also don't need a
Speaker 1: lot of picks. You know, they're they're a playoff team.
Speaker 1: You don't have to You're not trying to build your roster.
Speaker 1: You're trying to enhance your roster with your picks. So
Speaker 1: you know, there's always a possibility that if there's somebody
Speaker 1: their early second round that they absolutely love that they
Speaker 1: had ranked very high, that's there and it fits a
Speaker 1: need that they use a player picks future picks to
Speaker 1: move up and get that guy. Yeah, you know what,
Speaker 1: that's the one thing. I love guys too. When you
Speaker 1: think about the positions here, I think the first two
Speaker 1: rounds we could see receiver and I think we could
Speaker 1: see edge. I think we could see either edge receiver
Speaker 1: or receiver edge. I mean, I again, they're going to
Speaker 1: take the best player available at number twenty three, but
Speaker 1: I think those two positions are are sort of deep
Speaker 1: edge definitely receiver, not as much but still pretty deep.
Speaker 1: So I think we could see those two positions addressed
Speaker 1: in this draft. We'll see. Yeah, what Daniel Jeremiah tell
Speaker 1: Dave about the edge position. It goes twenty deep in
Speaker 1: this draft. In fact, it is episode twenty eight of
Speaker 1: the Day Pash Podcast, featuring the NFL Network Draft Analyst.
Speaker 1: So to see that or catch up on past episodes
Speaker 1: of the Pash Pod, just go to your preferred podcast
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Speaker 1: Right after this, our college scouts do a phenomen little
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Speaker 1: these guys. So they set the table for us so
Speaker 1: when we come in and talk to these players, we
Speaker 1: know what some of these issues are with these guys,
Speaker 1: so we can kind of probe and figure out who
Speaker 1: they are. What was the change in terms of you know,
Speaker 1: because a guy may have a reputation of being a
Speaker 1: bad guy or a bad person, but when you talk
Speaker 1: about them and learn their family history and learn where
Speaker 1: they come from, you can get a better understanding of
Speaker 1: who they are. And you're like, this kid is not
Speaker 1: a bad kid. Look where you came from. Look where
Speaker 1: he's at now. Now he's rough around the edges, but
Speaker 1: he's improving, he's maturing. So when we do miss on players,
Speaker 1: we miss on the person. So the interview process is
Speaker 1: a critical component of being here. I want to get
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Speaker 1: dropped today. That is Quinn Harris, VP of Player person
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Speaker 1: about here. Cardinals Draft twenty twenty two, The Big Red
Speaker 1: Rage presented by santanford In, Gilbert Paul kelvc Ron Wolfley
Speaker 1: in the voice of the Arizona Cardinals, Dave Pash And
Speaker 1: if you went into those war rooms, guys, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of NFL gms that according to NFL Network, they
Speaker 1: foresee a run on quarterbacks late in round one, that
Speaker 1: you know, Molik Willis and or Kenny Pickett will probably
Speaker 1: probably be off the board by the Cardinals pick at
Speaker 1: number twenty three. But if there is an interest and
Speaker 1: availability of quarterback and the Cardinals are at twenty three, wolf,
Speaker 1: do you think the phone rings for Steve Ky and
Speaker 1: how viable is a possibility they trade out at twenty
Speaker 1: three and cash that in if you're poly, you know,
Speaker 1: I guess it's a viable proposition for them where they
Speaker 1: could possibly trade down and collects some picks depending on
Speaker 1: how much they like this draft and how it's shaping
Speaker 1: up at number twenty twenty one, twenty two, twenty three.
Speaker 1: But you know what, I don't think that's very likely
Speaker 1: that this is just me. I don't think they're going
Speaker 1: to trade the pick. I think they're going to keep
Speaker 1: the pick, be right there at number twenty three and
Speaker 1: hopefully select a guy that is actually going to make
Speaker 1: a difference and be a difference maker come in and
Speaker 1: contribute immediately in his rookie year. So if it's all
Speaker 1: about the quarterback and getting to the quarterback, then Dave,
Speaker 1: what do you think as an edge rusher? You saw
Speaker 1: car Loftis for example, right, tell us some more about
Speaker 1: car Loftis and you know as water polo background is intriguing.
Speaker 1: They say his motor is non stop, so that's obviously
Speaker 1: a plus. Yeah, I mean, for you know, he won
Speaker 1: some games for them this year and people have made
Speaker 1: the Ryan Carrigan connection. Ryan Carrigan was I'm not mistaken
Speaker 1: the second overall pick in the draft, so I don't
Speaker 1: know that that's fair. And obviously JJ Watt was I
Speaker 1: think he was eleven. Karloftus I mentioned feels like a
Speaker 1: little bit smaller version of JJ Watt to me, I'm
Speaker 1: just not sure at twenty three that he provides the value.
Speaker 1: I think a lot depends on you know, is David
Speaker 1: a Jabo gone? Like, how do you feel about him?
Speaker 1: Do you think that it's worth taking a guy that
Speaker 1: can't contribute this year? Or you know, Jermaine Johnson probably
Speaker 1: isn't there, He's probably going to be. I think what's
Speaker 1: going to be interesting. Two things are interesting to me
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. Does Malik Willis get picked high or does
Speaker 1: he slide? I think Kenny Pickett's going to be a
Speaker 1: first round pick. Question is is he go to Carolina
Speaker 1: or does he go to Pittsburgh meaning earlier late? What
Speaker 1: if Willis slides and you know he's not taken until
Speaker 1: the second round. The other thing is Cavan Thibadeau. You know,
Speaker 1: is he going to be a top five pick or
Speaker 1: does he slide? And if he slides, what does that
Speaker 1: mean for or somebody liked your main Johnson, what about
Speaker 1: boy A Maffe, a guy from Minnesota who a lot
Speaker 1: of people have as a late first round pick. There's
Speaker 1: gonna be an edge rusher there at twenty three. The
Speaker 1: question is do you think from a value standpoint, based
Speaker 1: on your board, that it's worth taken him there? To
Speaker 1: your point, Paul, what if Malik Willis isn't drafted and
Speaker 1: somebody calls the Cardinals, we're going to take this kid,
Speaker 1: and we'll give you an extra third round pick and
Speaker 1: maybe this team's pick in twenty seven to twenty eight,
Speaker 1: and you feel like, you know what, we can get
Speaker 1: somebody twenty seven twenty eight that we had in our
Speaker 1: top twenty on our board and pick up an additional pick.
Speaker 1: I think the Cardinals would look at that and you
Speaker 1: know what. That happened twenty fourteen, did it not? Where
Speaker 1: the Cardinals had some of their guys taken off the board.
Speaker 1: Steve Kimes shared as much with the media. They traded
Speaker 1: out at number twenty down to twenty seven. They netted
Speaker 1: a third round pick, which became John Brown. So that
Speaker 1: has been done before. I think it's a distinct possibility
Speaker 1: this year. That's just my gut feeling. Our producer Jim
Speaker 1: Almohundro has tasked you guys with actually naming a name,
Speaker 1: making a pick so wolf, you know, even all over
Speaker 1: you know Davante Wyatt for months now, I mean, are
Speaker 1: you sticking with that? Have you had some you know,
Speaker 1: have you done some more research? As a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: I have, thank you very much. Over the last week.
Speaker 1: I think there were some stories that started to come down, right,
Speaker 1: there's no doubt about that. Stories that came down about
Speaker 1: Davante Wyatt that I think, UM would probably take him
Speaker 1: off a lot of draft boards. Having said that, UM,
Speaker 1: it's interesting the cut that we played coming in here,
Speaker 1: there were people talking. Q was talking about people that
Speaker 1: I think are just like DeVante Wyatt. A guy that's okay,
Speaker 1: he's a little rough around the edges, a guy that
Speaker 1: may have some question marks, but a guy that maybe
Speaker 1: it might take a flyer on again. I think it
Speaker 1: precludes him from being taken by the Arizona Cardinals at
Speaker 1: number twenty three. But how far is he gonna fall?
Speaker 1: Is he gonna fall to number fifty five? DeVante Wyatt?
Speaker 1: Is it possible he'd actually be there in the second round?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but maybe that's a little hint as
Speaker 1: to what the Arizona Cardinals are thinking on him. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what I'll go. I think they do leave
Speaker 1: the edge guy and or Devantay Wyatt to round two.
Speaker 1: I do think they go a line in round one. Four.
Speaker 1: They're five starters in the offensive line entering the final
Speaker 1: year of their contracts. So whether maybe it's even Linderbaum,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I think it's more apt to be
Speaker 1: a Kenyon Green or Zion Johnson. I think they go
Speaker 1: a line and then in round two one of those
Speaker 1: pass rushers and or d Lynman you guys have named
Speaker 1: all throughout there. Nick Benito, a guy from Oklahoma we
Speaker 1: talked to Drew Grigson about, and a guy who's Pro
Speaker 1: Football Focus. Great. I know it's analytics, but it's just
Speaker 1: stupid how highly rated his pass rush snaps were and
Speaker 1: they really didn't use him in a pass rush role
Speaker 1: a vast majority of the time. He dropped into coverage
Speaker 1: a whole bunch. And so if you do unleash him
Speaker 1: and he's still there at fifty five, I could see
Speaker 1: the Cardinals nabbing him if I had to pick somebody.
Speaker 1: If you said, you absolutely have to name a name. Again,
Speaker 1: this is assuming he's there. Jehan Dotson from Penn State.
Speaker 1: But I'm not sure he's going to be there. And
Speaker 1: I like Kenyan Green or Zion Johnson, either of the
Speaker 1: two offensive linemen who are guard slash tackles, and for
Speaker 1: some reason Tyler Linderbaum falls and he's there at twenty three.
Speaker 1: Maybe a scrap all the other ideas and say, you
Speaker 1: know what, this guy's the best football player. Will find
Speaker 1: a way to make it work this year with the
Speaker 1: certainty that this guy is going to be with us
Speaker 1: for ten years and be a perennial Pro bowler. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, honestly, this is if it's a situation where
Speaker 1: you're saying, who do you think is going to be
Speaker 1: there and what would you like to see them do?
Speaker 1: I think Kenyon Green is going to be there at
Speaker 1: number twenty three. I think there's a real possibility he
Speaker 1: would be there. I've loved Kenyon Green from the very beginning.
Speaker 1: At any time, you're talking about a guy that could
Speaker 1: possibly firm that pocket up, that interior pocket for the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. I mean, Kenyon Green is a big unit.
Speaker 1: He's got a lot of butt man, He's gonna line
Speaker 1: up and he's gonna put that butt in the gap,
Speaker 1: and that butt is enough to actually build a bit
Speaker 1: of a wall for Kyler Murray. And I think that's
Speaker 1: really really important going forward, finding guys who are going
Speaker 1: to brawl in the interior and keep that interior pocket solid.
Speaker 1: For me, I'm gonna go Kenyon Green because I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna be there, and I think the Cardinals wouldn't
Speaker 1: be able to pass him. Wolf. It would fit this
Speaker 1: pattern that you've been sighting, maneuver by maneuver of the Cardinals,
Speaker 1: maybe trending towards that team they were the first couple
Speaker 1: months of the year, not just a winning team, but
Speaker 1: a much more physical style of football. Would he not
Speaker 1: fit into that formula? Yes, Polly, he would, There's no
Speaker 1: doubt about it. Again, listen, what is the strength of
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. You have to ask yourself this. It's
Speaker 1: the offense you're gonna have. I believe, guys, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have three hundred plus million dollars wrapped up in Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray when they come to this extension agreement. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know how much it's gonna be It's gonna
Speaker 1: be a boatload that much. We do know. You gotta
Speaker 1: protect him, guys, you got to protect him. I think
Speaker 1: we're going to see a lot more offensive lineman drafted
Speaker 1: over the next couple of years because they have got
Speaker 1: to protect him and hopefully they're going to have success,
Speaker 1: very much like a Baltimore Ravens team has had success
Speaker 1: drafting offensive lineman. Yeah, and it's intriguing as some of
Speaker 1: these corner prospects might be. Dave. You know the fact
Speaker 1: they went out and got Jeff Gladney and and they
Speaker 1: paid a little bit of money. There was a bidding
Speaker 1: more for Jeff Gladney. They won that bidding war, and
Speaker 1: so you know, you realize that a Sauce Garden, Derek Stanley,
Speaker 1: those guys aren't going to be there. Andrew Bruth you
Speaker 1: brought up. But there's also a number of other corners,
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's Trent McDuffie or a couple of
Speaker 1: you Dub guys, kier Elham from Florida, former teammate on
Speaker 1: Mark will Side. You know, so there are possibilities those
Speaker 1: guys will be available. What do you think, David, the
Speaker 1: Cardinals went that direction corner. Yeah. I mean, look, it's
Speaker 1: anything as possible. It depends on who's there and who's not.
Speaker 1: I mean, if if all the guys we've talked about here,
Speaker 1: including Kenyan Greene and Dots and Linder Bomber there, you know,
Speaker 1: then you've got a tough decision to make whether you
Speaker 1: want to go corner. You already got a couple of
Speaker 1: Washington dbs. Jimmy Lake is an excellent position coach, but
Speaker 1: I'm not sure he's that good. You want three guys
Speaker 1: from Washington. But ultimately it's about who the best players are.
Speaker 1: A boot to me, you know, it's a guy again
Speaker 1: that played in the Bowl game. It tells me something
Speaker 1: when you could have sat out and you know, all
Speaker 1: these guys are sitting us they don't want to get hurt,
Speaker 1: but the guy loves to play football. That that says
Speaker 1: something to me. The Gladny thing is really interesting because
Speaker 1: he was a first round pick two years ago and
Speaker 1: the Cardinals would not have brought him in given the
Speaker 1: things that have happened with him. If they didn't do
Speaker 1: their homework, if they didn't talk to the former GM
Speaker 1: Rick Spielman, if they didn't take into account all the
Speaker 1: legal stuff. So are they looking at him maybe as
Speaker 1: a starter with him Byron Murphy and Marco Wilson. If
Speaker 1: you think, you know, we've got three really good corners
Speaker 1: and then maybe you have Alfred still you resigned Antonio Hamilton,
Speaker 1: maybe that's an area you don't need to worry about
Speaker 1: in the first round or in the draft at all. Now,
Speaker 1: of course, you can never have too many of them,
Speaker 1: So if there's somebody maybe in the second round, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I have like ten guys on the list.
Speaker 1: I think this is just my guests. Of ten guys,
Speaker 1: I have one corner on that list. It doesn't mean
Speaker 1: they won't take one. I just Booth is the one
Speaker 1: guy have there. But I also think a lot of
Speaker 1: the guys are going to be gone. But you know
Speaker 1: what that's in a stude observation Gladney and using the
Speaker 1: word starter, because that is the word that Drew Grigson
Speaker 1: used two weeks ago on the Big Red Rage, right Wolf, Yes,
Speaker 1: Drew Grison just you know, just waxing poetic about Jeff
Speaker 1: Gladney called him a starter. Well you stop and think
Speaker 1: about it too, Paulie. If you're watching tape of Jeff
Speaker 1: Gladney in NFL games. What do you think is more
Speaker 1: reliable the tape you're singing NFL games for college tape. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't even have to project. He started as a
Speaker 1: right well. And then there's also the possibility of, as
Speaker 1: Steve Kime said, of a potential draft day trade where
Speaker 1: their guy is right in front of him. I mean,
Speaker 1: their guy is only a few picks away and they
Speaker 1: trade up to nab that guy. That's always a possibility.
Speaker 1: They have done it in the past. Will continue with
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Speaker 1: feel like a nomad sometimes because you know you're out
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Speaker 1: by Santanford in Gilbert Ron Wolfley, Dave pass yours truly,
Speaker 1: Paul KELVC. I ran into a longtime Cardinals assistant coach
Speaker 1: in the hallway, guys, and he told me with a
Speaker 1: straight face, he was dead serious that in all his
Speaker 1: years he has never read a single mock draft. And
Speaker 1: I said, right there, I said, you know what, you
Speaker 1: are better off for it, because I just read a
Speaker 1: mock draft that has a Cardinals taking Kenny Pickett the
Speaker 1: pit quarterback. It's it's and I'll name names, it's draft Wire.
Speaker 1: There there there mock has a Cardinals taking Kenny Pickett.
Speaker 1: I mean you talk about zero chance to Steve Kim
Speaker 1: quote zero chance. I mean, I don't you know what?
Speaker 1: We are so ready for this? Are we not, Dave?
Speaker 1: Are we not ready? In fact? Just to prepare everyone
Speaker 1: that you might have to adjust on the fly. Steve
Speaker 1: Kim was talking about how you you got to be
Speaker 1: ready in that war room because things are happening real
Speaker 1: quick and in real time. It's the hardest part is
Speaker 1: to try to think about who's legitimately going to be there.
Speaker 1: You know, you always sort of play it out in
Speaker 1: your mind and you think about different scenarios and you
Speaker 1: have to go through that. And that's why we have
Speaker 1: our mock drafts. And the year we picked um down,
Speaker 1: you can and I look back at that draft and
Speaker 1: I think about the way that the board fell, and
Speaker 1: that year we had four guys that we absolutely loved.
Speaker 1: I remember that, and they literally went right before we picked.
Speaker 1: And you just got to be prepared for that. And
Speaker 1: that's going to happen, and you have to have to
Speaker 1: have a strategy whether you're going to stay there and pick,
Speaker 1: or you're gonna trade back or vice versa. You know,
Speaker 1: if you have somebody you love and you want to
Speaker 1: go get them, and go get them, never forget too, Pollie.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you're in the war room and you've got coaches
Speaker 1: that are trying to force their way in into the
Speaker 1: war room. Sometimes, Pollie, you could never know what's going
Speaker 1: to happen. You gotta be able to move with the
Speaker 1: with the tide, with the current balling. So so, Dave,
Speaker 1: last year you nailed it, did you not say on
Speaker 1: this very show, Zavin Collins number sixteen overall going to
Speaker 1: the Cardinals? I think so, Polly, but I don't remember
Speaker 1: for sure, but I think I might have. Okay, do
Speaker 1: you guys want to get on the record here? Who
Speaker 1: are you forecasting? Who do you think? Just in case
Speaker 1: you actually you know, you throw that dart and you
Speaker 1: hit a bullseye? What do you think Dave will spare
Speaker 1: you some time? Wolf? Who are you going with? Okay, listen,
Speaker 1: do I hope he's there? Yes, Jamison Williams. But there's
Speaker 1: no way, there's no way. I don't think he gets
Speaker 1: past the Jets at number ten, I kid you not.
Speaker 1: They got two picks number four, number ten, I don't think. Listen,
Speaker 1: the Jets do you think the Jets are looking at boy,
Speaker 1: if we just have a good draft, we're gonna get
Speaker 1: to the playoffs. No, they're not thinking that. So that's
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why I think they're looking at
Speaker 1: their young quarterback and saying, Man, that kid from Alabama
Speaker 1: right there, that kid that kind of looks like Tyreek
Speaker 1: Hill in terms of running and how he actually would
Speaker 1: impact an offense, Let's go get him. I could see
Speaker 1: the Jets doing that. So I wish Jamison Williams was there.
Speaker 1: I really do with wish he was there. But Paul,
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be Kenyan Green. All right, Dave,
Speaker 1: what do you think? Real quick? I could definitely see
Speaker 1: Kenyan Green I mentioned earlier. I'll just throw out John Dawson,
Speaker 1: but again he may not be there either. True. Well,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I'll say, all those guys are
Speaker 1: off the board, and I'll go George Karloftus and I'll
Speaker 1: just I'll just cave to all the mocks because that
Speaker 1: seems to be the most popular pick with the Arizona Cardinals.
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