1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spoffer, joined as always 3 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: by my trusted colleague West Hodkowitz. Were coming to you 4 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: here from different rooms in lambeau Field and West. The 5 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: Packers reached the nine and three mark of their season 6 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: with a victory over the Philadelphia Eagles on Sunday, And 7 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: just when you thought, maybe, just maybe the Packers would 8 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: cruise and sort of have an easy one on their hands, 9 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: it didn't work out that way, did it. No. I 10 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: think there's basically one game this year where I've been 11 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: able to write, like start writing parts of my story. 12 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: I think it was Week two against Detroit. Other than that, 13 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: it seems like every single game there's always been something 14 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: to it that makes you, you know, kind of have 15 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: some pause. They're late. But the one thing that was 16 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: positive though about this game for Green Bay is that 17 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: they played pretty well for three and a half quarters. 18 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: It was just that little bit of a let up 19 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: there at the beginning of the fourth, but when they 20 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: needed a response, they got it. Uh. Aaron Jones the 21 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: seventy seven yard touchdown run, his longest touchdown run as 22 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: a professional football player, and it came at a time 23 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: right after the defense got a big stop and after that, 24 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: you know, the punt return for a touchdown. So you 25 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: saw the three different phases picking each other up throughout 26 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: the course of this game. And the I wrote about 27 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: it as our sidebar. I know you and I have 28 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: had some discussions about it, but that run by Jones itself, 29 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: I just feel like those are one of them. It 30 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: was one of those plays that's that if this turns 31 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 1: into a very special season for the Green Bay Packers, 32 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna hearken back to that. You're gonna 33 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: think back to that moment where it was all eleven guys, 34 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: multiple position players blocking David baktr running stride for stride 35 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: with them down to the end zone. I just felt 36 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: like it was one of those galvanizing moments that you 37 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: look for in a season and it allowed the green 38 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: Bay Packer US to get that ninth win, the sixteenth 39 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: time Mike since the turn of the century, since y 40 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: two k that the green Bay Packers have etched a 41 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 1: winning season here in Green Bay. Yeah. Well, you talk 42 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: about the importance of that long run. Not only was 43 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: it obviously big for the end of the game to 44 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: get the Packers back to a two score lead and 45 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: to put this one away against Philadelphia. But statistically West 46 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: the Packers had not had a rushing play of longer 47 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: than twenty yards since Week six, since back in in 48 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, the first quarter in Tampa Bay at that. 49 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: So this uh, this run game. As much as we 50 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: saw that it was coming against Chicago, you could see 51 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: there were a handful of ten plus runs and it 52 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: just felt like that that big one was eventually going 53 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: to come, and it came late in the fourth quarter here, 54 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: and as you said, it was it was frustrating, certainly 55 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: to see the Packers up twenty three to three. You 56 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: think they're going to cruise to a victory. Then the 57 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: game starts to go sideways. A fourth and eighteen touchdown 58 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: path us by Jalen Hurts, the rookie quarterback who stepped 59 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 1: in for Carson Wentz. Then the offense goes three and out, 60 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: Then the punt coverage team allows a seventy three yard 61 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: touched on return. Suddenly it's twenty three to sixteen. It's 62 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: a seven point game. But unlike a couple of weeks 63 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: prior in Indianapolis, where when the game started to go sideways, 64 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: it got very, very difficult for the Packers to get 65 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: things back on the right track. The defense took the 66 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: field at twenty three to sixteen, gotta stop. I believe 67 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: recorded the seventh sack of of the night on that series, 68 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: and then the offense responds with the seventy seven yard 69 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: touchdown run, breaking the big ones. So you got the 70 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: answer you needed in order to close this one out, 71 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: and now the Packers are are right on the verge 72 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: of clinching a playoff spot and possibly the NFC North Championship. Yeah, 73 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: and I'm glad you brought that up, Mike, because there's 74 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: a couple different things that we're gonna be talking about 75 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: later in this show when we recap the weekends, some 76 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: very strange things that happened to the National Football League. 77 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: The Seattle Seahawks, you know, kind of just you know, 78 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: laying an egg again, the New York Giants, who now 79 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: suddenly have command of the NFC East. You saw the 80 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: situation unfold with Washington being the team out of all 81 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: the teams to knock off Pittsburgh. This is a strange season. 82 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: And there was a remark made on I believe it 83 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: was my story or your story. I saw on Twitter 84 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: basically somebody saying that, well, it's great win, but can 85 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: you just imagine if they would have if they would 86 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: have found a way to beat Indianapolis and Minnesota games 87 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: they should have won, they'd be eleven and one right now. 88 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: They could be, but they're nine and three, and there's 89 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: a lot of teams in the National Football League that 90 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: are having very similar type moments to that, where you 91 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: might either lose late in a competitive football game or 92 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: you might just not show up against a team that 93 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: you should easily beat. Even the Minnesota Vikings having a 94 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: tough time with the Jacksonville Jaguar. So performances like this, 95 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: I think go a long way, because these are the 96 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: type of games that could get away from you special teams, Mike, 97 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: you go back and you look over the history of 98 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: the National Football League. When there's a special teams touchdown 99 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: that you allow, or a pick six, those type of plays, 100 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: it's sometimes difficult to win those matchups. The Green Bay 101 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: Packers did that. They shut the door in the biggest 102 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: story of all the fact that they started the game 103 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: that they the way that they did. They wanted energy 104 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: on the first drive, they wanted to be able to 105 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: take command of this game. They did it cerebral. Ye, 106 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: it wasn't perfect, but the Philadelphia Eagles had a lot 107 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: of questions to answer in this game. A year ago, 108 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: Miles when you look at Miles Sanders, when you look 109 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: at um Jordan Howard, they ran for a what was 110 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: it a hundred sixty yards against the Green Bay Packers. 111 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: This game, they didn't get past fifty. Jalen Hurts comes 112 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: into the game. He had some success, but the Packers 113 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: were able to counter back. That was the tale of 114 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: this The better team won in the Green Bay Packers 115 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: when it came down a crunch time made sure that 116 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: they put an exclamation point on that. Yeah, when you 117 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: talk about the special teams, it's it's kind of a 118 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: double edged sword in a way, because we've seen the Packers. 119 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: They've been able to overcome allowing two punt returns for 120 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: touchdowns in two separate games and still get victories. As 121 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: you said, that's pretty rare. Just as we've seen the 122 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks with the Minnesota Vikings. They've allowed 123 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: their opponents to score are three defensive touchdowns in the 124 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: last two weeks. But yet the Vikings have managed to 125 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: prevail in both of those games. That's rare. You don't 126 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: see that. Obviously. The flip side of it for the 127 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: Packers is that if you don't get this short up, 128 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: if you don't get this fixed, a special team's breakdown 129 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: is potentially going to cost you big time, whether it's 130 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: say against Tennessee in Week sixteen when you have that 131 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: big matchup at lambeau Field, or obviously in the playoffs 132 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: where a play like that on special teams could really 133 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: swing things. So the Packers are overcoming their mistakes. But 134 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: as Matt Lafleur said on Monday, there's plenty to clean 135 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: up here. There's still plenty of things for us to 136 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: coach and for the players to work on. There's no 137 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: shortage of things for this Packers coaching staff to keep 138 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: the players attention here as the as the fourth quarter 139 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: of the season starts, to uh to roll on here 140 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: these last four regular season games. Yeah, in that moment, 141 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: Mike is only as good as the Packers make out 142 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: of it. I mean, and this can be a real 143 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: teaching moment. It probably should have been the first time. 144 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: At Secondly, this is something that they're gonna have to 145 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: go back and look at Jalen Reagor is one of 146 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: the top returners, one of the top young talents in 147 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: this league. There was a reason why the Eagles drafted 148 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: him where they did. They feel like he can be 149 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: a guy that can help them in two different phases. 150 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: So if you punt the ball to him in the 151 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: middle of the field, that's a danger to begin with. 152 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: But then, as Matt Lafleur pointed out, the gunner then 153 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: gets washed inside, opening up the sideline for Reagor, and 154 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: from there the coverage team is not able to to 155 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: do anything with it seventy three yards to the house. 156 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: So these are moments that I'm sure with Shawn Meneinge 157 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: when he sits down with his special teams units this week, 158 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: they got to clean these things up. They have to 159 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: find a way to do it. Now. They've had injuries, 160 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: they've had some turnover there, but you still need to 161 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: be able to hold down the fort because, as we 162 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: were just saying, special teams can really open things up. Now, 163 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: all that being said, the Packers are sitting at nine 164 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: and three. It's a lot easier to learn from these 165 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: things when you're looking at winning game film in the 166 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: Packers because the defense got a late stop and because 167 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: obviously the success of Aaron Jones on that last run, 168 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: they were able to pick each other up and get 169 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: that win. Yeah. Well, there were a lot of milestones. 170 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: There's a lot of history being made here by by 171 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: some spectacular Green Bay Packers players here in I'm gonna 172 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: give a rundown on the milestones from this last game, 173 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: and then I'll let you talk about the ones that 174 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: you want to First and foremost, Aaron Rodgers gets his 175 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: four dred career touchdown pass and he becomes the fastest 176 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: player in NFL history to do that one regular season 177 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: games to get to four hundred, and he's also the 178 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: first one to get to four hundred with less than 179 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: a hundred interceptions in his career. He only has eight 180 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 1: thus far. He also became the first quarterback in league 181 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: history to to have thirty five or more touchdown passes 182 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: in five different seasons. He even he admitted that one 183 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: probably won't last long because there are some other guys 184 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: coming along who are who are going to uh going 185 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: to surpass that sooner than later. But he's the first 186 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: guy to do it and currently the only one in 187 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 1: league history and then Davante Adams. He catches the four 188 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: hundred touchdown pass for Aaron Rodgers and presents him the 189 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: football in the end zone. But Adams gets over a 190 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: thousand yards for the season for the second time in 191 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: his career, and more importantly, from a historical perspective, a 192 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: touchdown reception in seven straight games, which nobody in Packer's 193 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 1: history has done since Don Hudson back in the ninetties. 194 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: So there are some special moments going on here in 195 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 1: this crazy different and odd season, and every once in 196 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: a while you just have to sit back and win 197 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: or lose or however this ends up in January for 198 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: the Packers, you have to kind of sit back and 199 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: relish it at least a little. Well, you definitely do, 200 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: because these type of moments don't happen. I mean you 201 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: you know, after every game we get the stat print out, 202 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: the notes print out that are terrific public relations staff 203 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: puts together. And just how expansive that's been this season, Mike. 204 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: There's times in the past that there might be one 205 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: or two notes of of something. Hey, you know, Richard 206 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: Rodgers became the first tight end to have eight touchdowns 207 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 1: since Bubba Franks. You know few years ago those type 208 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: of things work their way in there. This past week 209 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: looked like a dope sheet. By the time that they 210 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: got done, it looked like the weekly game notes in 211 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: terms of how many different things had happened. Even Robert 212 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,599 Speaker 1: Tony and I think became the first tight end in 213 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: team history to have a touchdown catch of more than 214 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: twenty five yards UH in three straight games at first, 215 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: to do that in the NFL since seven, I mean, 216 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: it's just ridiculous, um, the amount of things that this 217 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: offense is accomplishing specifically, And we're not even talking about 218 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: what they've done defensively with Zadarius Smith back to back 219 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: ten secs seasons, first time that's been done in a decade. 220 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: But the stat obviously that you have to talk about 221 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: is Aaron Rodgers four hundred touchdown past is Mike four hundred, 222 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 1: and he has yet to throw a hundred interceptions. I 223 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: joked during the game after a second one that he 224 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: would have to throw twelve consecutive interceptions before his next touchdown. Mike, 225 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have to go back to maybe 226 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: two thousand eight for the last time that he threw 227 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: more than twelve in an entire season for him not 228 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: to be able to be the first quarterback to do that. 229 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 1: And he made a remark that I know you ran 230 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: with with your editorial as well, that you know his 231 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: goals now to get to five hundred without getting to 232 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: a hundred. I mean, that's the level he's playing at. 233 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: And more importantly, because I know in the past everything 234 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: was about well he protects the ball, he holds onto 235 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: it too long, he doesn't want to make a mistake. 236 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: He's playing in rhythm with this offense, and I that 237 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: that's the story here. It's the story for two thousand twenty, 238 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: and it's the story for beyond. You have seen a 239 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 1: synergy this year. Uh you know, two sides of an 240 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: offensive theory meeting an m v P quarterback, and it's 241 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 1: kind of fit in parallel this season. And I feel 242 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: like as the Packers get down this stretch here, yes 243 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about Aaron Rodgers in the m 244 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: v P conversation. Arguably should be in that already in 245 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: terms of you know, I know what Patrick Mahomes has done. 246 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: But as I wrote an insider inbox on Tuesday, if 247 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: you believe everything everybody said at the begining of the 248 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: AAR Aaron Rodgers has no weapons. So it's incredible what 249 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: he's been able to accomplish without any weapons. Uh, this 250 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: season he should be an m v P. But all 251 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: that being said, this stretch that he's been on, you 252 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: have to step back. You have to appreciate it because 253 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: the game is not that easy and he's making it 254 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: look that way. Yeah, that that's the thing West. I 255 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: mean you you you look at you look at what 256 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: he's done. And even if I'm not mistaken, you know, 257 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: his four interceptions this season, I want to say two 258 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: of the four have been deflected, you know, or two 259 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: or tipped passes in some regards. So I really enjoyed 260 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: the fact that that he had the guts to to 261 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 1: tell the media like, yeah, I'm gonna go for five 262 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: hundred touchdowns before I get to a hundred. So of course, 263 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: when I sat down after the game to write that editorial, 264 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: I wanted to go back and do the math and 265 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: just see, Okay, how real? I like, is is this 266 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: a pipe dream or is this actually realistic? Well? I 267 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: counted it up between touchdown past number three hundred and 268 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 1: four hundred. Over his last hundred touchdowns he threw fourteen interceptions. 269 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: So the fact that he is twelve interceptions away from 270 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: a hundred uh, and he's talking about getting another hundred 271 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: touchdown passes before those twelve interceptions. It's not like out 272 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 1: of the realm of possibility by any stretch. I mean, 273 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: this is this is right in his wheelhouse. This, this 274 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: is now. It would be a tremendous accomplishment. But it's 275 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: it's not something that's uh, it's not something that's that's 276 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: an absolute pipe dream by any stretch. He could actually 277 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: pull this off. No, And some of it is is 278 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 1: you just said it is sometimes dumb luck. I mean 279 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 1: you mentioned that the deflected passes and those type of 280 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: things this year that happened in the past two, last 281 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 1: two or three seasons where it's been a deflected pass 282 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: here there that has turned in to an interception that 283 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,719 Speaker 1: has led to that. So here, this is the way 284 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: I look at it. Aaron Rodgers, the way he's performed 285 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: this season, he's reminding the National Football League that you 286 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 1: guys can come up with every single type of narrative 287 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 1: that you want. He's been the same player, he continues 288 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: to be the same player, and he's having a heck 289 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: of a lot of fun right now. Matt Lafleur's offense. 290 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: La Fleur is not going to give himself any credit. 291 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 1: He always deflects it, and sometimes I think that actually 292 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,719 Speaker 1: works against him when you get these Coach of the 293 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: Year conversations and things of that nature. He's not a 294 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 1: big personality, right But Matt Lafleur the job he's done, 295 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: not only implementing his system. Because they caught a lot 296 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: of people off guard last year by winning thirteen games 297 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: and making an NFC Championship game, there were a lot 298 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: of questions about the legitimate, city of legitimacy of that 299 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: going into this season. From the outside, that's all been 300 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: put to rest. The guy has, you know, already won 301 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: more games than any other head coach and team history 302 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: through the amount of time he's been here, and for 303 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: him and Rodgers to kind of find themselves, get that 304 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: get on the same page. This season, You've seen the 305 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: offense explode, You've seen Davante Adams become an All Pro receiver, 306 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: You've seen the emergence of Robert Toanian, even the offensive 307 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: line Mike They've played out of their mind this season. 308 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: And because they're blocking for a guy like Aaron Rodgers. 309 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: They're starting to get more notoriety because you and I 310 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: have seen Corey Linsley at this level. We saw last 311 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: year Elton Jenkins as I. As I mentioned in one 312 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: of my right ups last week too, this team has 313 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: more than one Pro bowler on that offensive line, whether 314 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: or not outsiders want to acknowledge that, So finally seeing 315 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: the fruits of that labor be found. Obviously, the super 316 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: Bowl is the goal. They want to win a division title. 317 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: They want to get that by in the first round 318 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: of the playoffs. But taking a step back every once 319 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: in a while is okay to sort of appreciate what 320 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: this team has done through the first twelve games of 321 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: this season. Yeah. Absolutely, And I wanted to get back 322 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: to one other point too. You mentioned the m v 323 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: P discussion. I think the m v P in the 324 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: NFL and is between Aaron Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes. I 325 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: don't see anybody else really, and it's the conversation at 326 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: this point. But there are four regular season games left. 327 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: We're only three quarters of the way through the regular season, 328 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: so with of the regular season to go, I don't 329 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: think it's I don't think it's worth arguing right now 330 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: who it should be quite frankly, there's there's a lot 331 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: of football left to be played here. Let's see how 332 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: this plays out, and and we'll see. But I do 333 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: think it's basically down to two guys already. One other 334 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: thing that that I want to get to before we 335 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: move on to some of that that recap of of 336 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: last weekend's games. What we're seeing here that I think 337 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: is potentially a really good sign for the Packers going forward. 338 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: Not just that you know, Aaron Rodgers doing what he's doing, 339 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: and Davante Adams and Aaron Jones finally busted a big 340 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: run and you know everything you're saying about the offensive line, 341 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: but we're seeing on the defensive side of the ball 342 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: west some young players for the Packers who are starting 343 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: to come into their own a little bit. We've talked 344 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: about Rashan Gary and what he's done. He had I believe, 345 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: one and a half sacks out of those UH seven 346 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: against the Eagles. Kingsley Kiki, a second year defensive lineman. 347 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: He has his second two sack game of the season. 348 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: Darnell Savage, the second year safety, a first round pick 349 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: just like Rashan Gary, he gets an interception laid in 350 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: the game when the defense rose up. He now has 351 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: three interceptions in the last two games. A young player 352 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: maybe starting to hit his stride here down the stretch. 353 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: The young players here that the Packers, as we've talked 354 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: about and as a lot of people know, the Packers 355 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: have invested a lot of resources in the draft, in 356 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: the defense, and some of these guys they might just 357 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: be hitting their stride at the right time here. Yeah, 358 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: it was funny. I was doing the Packers pregame radio 359 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 1: show at James Jones, you know, Packers longtime receiver now 360 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: works for NFL Network, one of my all time favorites, 361 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: j J. Just for a lot of folks, right, very 362 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 1: professional guy handled himself the right way throughout his two 363 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 1: stints in Green Bay, and he actually drew the parallels. 364 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: It's funny because some of us have done this over 365 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: the here and I'm guilty of it too, for comparing 366 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 1: every every core, every safety that shows a glimpse of promise, 367 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: comparing them to Nick Collins. But he really made a 368 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: strong comparison to not necessarily just totally as a player, 369 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 1: but the development of a Nick Collins in putting that 370 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: in line with what Darnell Savage has done over the 371 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: last two seasons. A lot of raw ability, a lot 372 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: of speed, and just really the understanding of the defense 373 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: when that comes to him and he can play more 374 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: off his instincts and his football. I Q that's when 375 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: you see a real playmaker, a Pro Bowl type safety 376 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: emerge and he feels like that's kind of what you've 377 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: seen with Darnell Savage. Into James's credit, this was before 378 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 1: he had the interception on Sunday. I mean, this is 379 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: something that he had been kind of making note of 380 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: throughout the course of the year, and now you're starting 381 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 1: to see it. It kind of happened more and more 382 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: last week. I asked Adrian Amos about that during his 383 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 1: Zoom call and the fact that when a young guy 384 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 1: gets gets picks like that, when he makes plays, it 385 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: isn't that necessarily you want to be chasing them, because 386 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: that isn't the be all end all, but it does 387 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: sort of remind a safety of what they're capable of, 388 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: gives them that confidence that, you know what, I got those. 389 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: There shouldn't be any pressure on interceptions. I got some, 390 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: let's get some more. So from that regard, I think 391 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: you're seeing a real step that that Savage has taken 392 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: here in the last couple of weeks. I'd be remiss, though, Mike, 393 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: if I didn't talk about the fact that Kingsley Kiki 394 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: has come on four sacks now on the season. This 395 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: is a guy that I know some people have drawn 396 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: some comparisons with, you know, Mike Daniels and being able 397 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: to maybe get that guy that isn't the typical six 398 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 1: foot three, six ft four three and fifteen pound defensive tackle, 399 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: a guy that's more around that to ninety range, that 400 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: can win with leverage, win with getting underneath the shoulder 401 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: pads of guards. Kiki has done that. And you have 402 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: to talk about Rashaan Garrett. Four sacks now on the season, 403 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: and if you look at the way they've used his snaps, 404 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: this is a guy that has been allowed to develop 405 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: at a more comfortable pace. They didn't ask him to 406 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: walk in the door and beat Clay Matthews. They asked 407 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: him to come in the door and learn from Zadarius 408 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: Smith and Preston Smith. And now you're seeing him rise 409 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 1: up to this two thousand nineteen draft class. There's still 410 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: a long way to go. There's still a lot of 411 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: production that needs to be proven, but from where they 412 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: were a year ago at this time to what you're 413 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: seeing down this final stretch, this is what's propelling Green 414 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: Bay into this final quarter of the regular season. Yeah, 415 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: no question about it. Well, as the fourth quarter of 416 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: the regular season is upon us, the Packers are nine 417 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: and three and heading into Week fourteen here, there are 418 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: a couple of clinch scenarios for the Packers that all 419 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: through out here for you, Wes, the Packers can possibly 420 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: clinch the NFC nor this week, and what that would 421 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: take is a victory over the Detroit Lions coupled with 422 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: a loss by the Minnesota Vikings. Now, the other clinch 423 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 1: scenario for the Packers involves clinching just a playoff spot 424 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 1: even if say the Vikings were to win, So the 425 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 1: NFC North is still in play. But the Packers can 426 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: clinch a playoff spot if they win against Detroit and 427 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: if the Arizona Cardinals take one more loss. So we're 428 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: getting into that that time of the season where you know, 429 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: you you look at the different scenarios and see where 430 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: you are in the bigger picture. As we know, the 431 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: Packers are in the number two spot in the NFC 432 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: right now at nine and three, one game behind the 433 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints, who are ten and two, one game 434 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: ahead of the Seattle Seahawks, who are eight and four 435 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: after that surprising loss to the New York Giants. So 436 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: um a lot to play for here over these last 437 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: four regular season games, and particularly with the number one seed, 438 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: as we've talked about, the only one now that gets 439 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: a first run by. So the chase for that top 440 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: spot in the NFC is going to be watched very 441 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: very close. Yeah, and knock on wood, that's the way 442 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: it stays. I keep saying that every time someone says 443 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: something about the first round by, I'm like, you know, 444 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: all with hope that that's how it works out. I 445 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: don't want to see a sixteen team playoff. But you're 446 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: you're everybody, Mike, when you lay out a season, when 447 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: you lay out a schedule, and fans are still doing 448 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: it now, and it's okay. It's the excitement factor of it. 449 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: They go, okay, well that the Packers will win all 450 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: their other games and then they just got the Titans. 451 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: They just gotta beat the Titans. It's not that simple. 452 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: Asked the Seattle Seahawks about that. I mean, you can't 453 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 1: look past any of these opponents, because that's ultimately where 454 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: teams are getting tripped up, especially in the NFC this year. 455 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 1: It's why the NFC races as wide open as it 456 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: has been. The New Orleans Saints have been to fend 457 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: off a challenge last week. That's where the scenarios get 458 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: really interesting, and you do a fantastic job of laying 459 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: that all out in path to the playoffs. Be sure 460 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: to check that out on Packers dot com every weekend now. 461 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: But it really is knowing that eight the Detroit Lions, 462 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: and we're gonna look at more of them throughout the 463 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: course of this week. This is a team now that 464 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: showed a lot more life under Daryl Bevel than they 465 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: did the last couple of weeks. And sometimes, as we've 466 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: seen time and time again, we talked about it with 467 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: Raheem Morris taken over the Atlanta Falcons, it's sometimes that 468 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: jolt that a team needs. Are they gonna instantly become 469 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: playoff teams now? Are they gonna become contenders? No? But 470 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: they get a lot more live in terms of their 471 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: dog status. And that's why you can't take these matchups 472 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: for granted. The Green Bay Packers, they need one more 473 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: win to get to ten. After that, then they look 474 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: at eleven and if that all lines up and those 475 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: stars are there for them to be a playoff team 476 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: and a bye and have a bye through the first round, 477 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: you take it as it comes, but you can't look 478 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: past any of these teams. Thinking about the Titans. Yeah, absolutely, well, 479 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: a couple of more points before we go. A lot 480 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 1: of people have been laughing at the NFC East this year. 481 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: We've even done a little bit of chuckling at the 482 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: NFC East. But okay, hold on a second, because the 483 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: New York Giants just beat the Seattle Seahawks and Washington 484 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 1: just beat the undefeated Pittsburgh Steelers. So that just goes 485 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 1: to your point. You cannot sleep on anybody right now. 486 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: And yes, the winner of the NFC East is probably 487 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 1: going to be like eight and eight at best, and 488 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: maybe even seven and nine or six and ten will 489 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: still win that division. But the team's the team that 490 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: does emerge to win that division is still going to 491 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: be a threat in the playoffs regardless of of what 492 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: its record is. And the other thing too, with regard 493 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: to the Packers facing the Detroit Lions, Daryl Bevil has 494 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: taken over as the interim coach. Bevil is now the 495 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 1: third interim coach in to win his first game taking 496 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: over the team, because the Falcons did it with Raheem Morris, 497 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 1: the Texans did it with Romeo Cornell, and now this 498 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: Lions team West. They were down by ten points with 499 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: four minutes to go and they had the ball in 500 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,199 Speaker 1: their own four yard line at Soldier Field against the 501 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: Chicago Bear. Their win probability for the statistical geeks out 502 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 1: there was like almost off the chart the wrong way. 503 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 1: They went ninety six yards and got a touchdown, got 504 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: to turn over on defense, punched in another touchdown, then 505 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: held off the Bears in the red zone on the 506 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: final possession. And Daryl Bevel gets his first win. And 507 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: guess what the Detroit Lions are going. We're five and seven. 508 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: If we can run the table and get to nine 509 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: and seven with all this craziness in the NFC and 510 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: the extra playoffs spot, that's said, that's seven seed. The 511 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: Detroit Lions are gonna be welcoming the Green Bay Packers 512 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,479 Speaker 1: into Ford Fields saying we're still a contender like they 513 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: you know, everything has been revived now because of that 514 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 1: come back in Chicago. So the Packers are gonna have 515 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 1: their hands full, there's no question about it. And the 516 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: other thing too, with Matthew Stafford for in passing yards 517 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 1: last week, Mike, that's the way that this thing can 518 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: go for Detroit. They're only one solid Matthew Stafford game 519 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: away from playing with anybody in the NFL. And I think, 520 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: you know, as much as we've made out of the 521 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: Barry Sanders era and some of these other times in 522 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 1: which they've had missed opportunities, the fact that they've had 523 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback for ten years and they've struggled to 524 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 1: win consistently, uh that that's been a huge thing for 525 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers to be able to survive. Because 526 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,719 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford on a lot of teams with the right 527 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 1: defenses would be a perennial contender with the way he 528 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: plays the game and if you can get him a 529 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: running attack. So that type of matchup is gonna be 530 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 1: interesting to watch. And as far as the NFC East, 531 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: there's a bunch of scrappers in that division right now. 532 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: The Giants won that game in a very unconventional way. 533 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: UM Washington won their game over Pittsburgh in an extremely 534 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: unconventional way, although I think they have a defense that 535 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 1: can keep them in a lot of matchups and now 536 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: more of a game managing mentality with Alex Smith at quarterbacks. 537 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, again, this matchup on Sunday for Green Bay. 538 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: We're gonna look more into it throughout the course of 539 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: the week, but uh, this is definitely an opponent that 540 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: Green Bay can't look past as they try to get 541 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 1: down this final stretch of the season. Yeah, it'll be 542 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: an interesting NFC North battle for sure, but with that 543 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: we will call it a wrap on this edition of 544 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: Packers on Script. Would be sure to follow all of 545 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 1: our coverage of the team all week long on Packers 546 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: dot com. Oh you know what, before we go, West, 547 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 1: I need to take care of our sponsors here, so 548 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: let's do it serious. 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