1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: The Fields on A group proudly presents Huddle Ups with 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks. J P. Shadrick, John Ojar and NFL Network 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: analyst and former Jaguar Bucky Brooks bring you the latest 4 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: on your Jacksonville Jaguars. Everything's got to be about the future. 5 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: It's gotta be about tomorrow and bringing all that into 6 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: focus as we you know, attacked the season. Huddle Up 7 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: with Bucky Brooks starts right now. Welcome into the Huddle 8 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: Up Podcast. It's Wednesday, May J P. Shadrick with NFL 9 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: Network analyst Bucky Brooks, Jaguars dot Com Senior writer John Oser. 10 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: Give us a listen on the podcast bage at Jaguars 11 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: dot com or the Official Jaguars Podcast Network that's on 12 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio, Apples, Spotify, or wherever else you download your podcasts. 13 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 1: O T A s are underway. We were out there Monday, John, 14 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: you and I were there. They didn't see Bucky there, 15 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: but he didn't make it. I don't know what happens 16 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: there next week, next week, next next week, next week, 17 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: all the way across the country for an O T A. 18 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: That's right, because it's so important, it's so important that 19 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: you never know, like a lot of decisions and terminations 20 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: are made on some of this stuff that we see 21 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: in these offseason team I was bragging to the boys 22 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: about driving a mile and a half for it. Wow, 23 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: so Bucky's flying, You've got multiple planes. You know, you've 24 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: got connections. It's a holiday weekend, you're gonna get here 25 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: and and stick it out for a few days. I 26 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 1: like that that's right for the team, team, team player. 27 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: What do you want to see? But I mean, I 28 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: know we're sort of previewing here. We're out of step, 29 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: but it's it's Bucky's podcast. We can do that. I 30 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: think the main thing that you're trying to see that 31 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: I want to see is how different does the team 32 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: look this year compared to last year, just in terms 33 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: of the way that they operate and move, just the organization. 34 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: I want to look at, uh, the speed of the team, 35 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: because speed is everything you think about these top teams. 36 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: You have to have a fast, explosive team. We talked 37 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: about the team being big and faster, stronger, explode some 38 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: more dynamic that typically leads to better play. But now 39 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: I want to see what it's like when you have 40 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: a coaching staff and experience coaching staff that gets their 41 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: hands on these guys. I heard you guys talk about, 42 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: you know, the reports of the d line being very aggressive, 43 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: maybe over the aggressive uh in the open workout, but 44 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: I kind of like that because defensively they needed to 45 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: have a level of nastiness and toughness and those things exhibited. 46 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: I heard about Trevor Lawrence that can really really good 47 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: going the ball all over the yard. So now I 48 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: want to see what does that look like compared to 49 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: what I remember seeing him when he last was on 50 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: the field um at the end of the year, and 51 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: so just looking for overall improvement. I think that is 52 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: a nice precursor to what we may see in training camp. 53 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,839 Speaker 1: Let's hear from head coach Doug Peterson before practice Monday 54 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: on what he feels they can get out of the 55 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: next couple of weeks of O T A S. I 56 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: value the O T A S UM and and from 57 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: the standpoint of really being able to evaluate you know, 58 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: players this time of year, even though we're not making 59 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: you know, roster moves and cutting it down to fifty 60 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: three and all that, but you still you still get 61 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: a lot out of these as a coach, and now 62 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: you get to really put your team into into game 63 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: situations and really start coaching that you know here in 64 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: in the O, T. A. S. And obviously we're gonna 65 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: you know, protect each other, but play fast and and 66 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: and get our work done. And um, you know, and 67 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: what what I what I look to get out of 68 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: these next couple of weeks. It's just that just the 69 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: execution from phase two. You know that we did individually 70 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: into uh against each other, you know now offense and defensively. 71 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: How well the guys retained the information you know, from 72 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: the classroom to the to the football field, and um, 73 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: you know, playing fast, protecting each other and just see 74 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: where we are as football team. He's a he's a 75 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: cool customer. Feels like there he understands the pace of 76 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: what should happen here. And there's a lot of important 77 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: football things ahead and late July and August to really 78 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: get ready for the regular season. But yeah, taking it 79 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: from the classroom to the fields important, getting the work 80 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: done and then moving forward, by yeah, I really like it. 81 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: And I like his his his his pacing of the 82 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: off season. Um. I think what he says is what 83 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: a lot of us always say in front office, is um, 84 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: when you're looking at players, can they take it from 85 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: the board to the field. Meaning it's one thing to 86 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: have all the answers right in the classroom. It's another 87 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: thing to be able to execute it properly on the 88 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: field when you're going at um game speed and things 89 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: are moving in um that stuff. And then the other 90 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: part is he talked about evaluating the team even though 91 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: they're not making roster moves. But you know, it's another 92 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: thing to draft guys and to sign guys as free agents, 93 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: undrafted or even street free agents, and then put them 94 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: on the field and see what they look like. Before 95 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: you can make the team, you have to at least 96 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: look the part. And so athletically, do these guys look 97 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: the part? Do they look physical enough to be able 98 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 1: to play? When I mean physical, not like banging into 99 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: each other, but physically, do they look like they stack up? 100 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: Do they look like a championship caliber team? And if 101 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: they don't, what little changes in tweaks do we have 102 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: to make? And then the game situations You can't stress enough. 103 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: In the National Football League, it is all about situation 104 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: in football, Understanding down and distance, understanding the clock, score relationship, 105 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: how you want to play, how you want to execute 106 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: those things. You want to start teaching those principles now 107 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: because there's not enough time in training camp to consistently 108 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: cover it. So you have to introduce some of those 109 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: situations now and make sure that your team understands it. 110 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: So when you do get to do a situations in 111 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: games in the regular season, they've been there before. They 112 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: execute the way they should. They're actually doing that John 113 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: a little bit on Monday, you know, going down like 114 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: thirty forty seconds on the clock and how do you 115 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: you know, stop things and spike the ball and all 116 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: that stuff. It. They were working on that in a 117 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: small way. Yeah, they struggled with it because there was 118 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: no PA system, but they got it done, okay, So 119 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: I was glad that they did. But in all seriousness, 120 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: the things that Bucky's talking about to me are incredibly 121 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: important from a macro level. Doug Peterson clearly needs this 122 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: six seven weeks when he leaves here, when these coaches 123 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: leave here, they'll have a much better feel for what 124 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: this team is then if these things didn't exist, um 125 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: a situational football right now, it's really good to get 126 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: those reps in. It's good for him to get a look. 127 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: The only reason I joke around that it's not important 128 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: is from an evaluation from the media watching and saying, oh, 129 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: I can look at this and tell that this cornerback 130 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: is going to be able to lock up on this guy. Okay, 131 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: corners a little bit, the rigamar role about how good 132 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 1: the defensive line was the other day. That's fine, but 133 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: you're without pads you can get That's all great. But 134 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: the teaching, which is not incredibly exciting to watch all 135 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: the time, the teaching process. It's a very exciting jp 136 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: to go watch a classroom, right, I mean, but that's 137 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: the important stuff going on, and for that, I do 138 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: think it's really important. As I've always said, particularly in 139 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: the first year of a head coach. Yeah, and I 140 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: think what you want to do and you don't want 141 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: to necessarily compare regimes or coaches, but what you want 142 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: to do is you want to pay attention to the 143 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: level of detail. I think what I hear from Doug 144 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: Peterson is a very confident coach who kind of understands 145 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: he has a plan in the process that has been successful, 146 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: so he kind of knows where the mile markers are 147 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: in terms of where you want to progress with the 148 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: team over the course of the spring and summer to 149 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: get them ready for training camp. The reason why the 150 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: O t A s are important is because at the 151 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: end of O t A s um what coaches would 152 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: do is they'll reconvene, They'll look at what they try 153 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: to get done over the course of uh the O 154 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: t A off season program, and then they would say, hey, 155 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: we were good at this. The players at a tough 156 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: time with that. Maybe we don't even introduce this part 157 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: of it in training camp. Here's where we can be 158 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: really good in terms of learning and executing in those things. 159 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: Let's give them maybe a smaller menu that they can handle, 160 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: have success there, and then as we progress over the 161 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: course of the year, maybe we give them other stuff. 162 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: But this is a little trial and era for the 163 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: coaches as well, to see how much can the team retain, 164 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: how much of it is usable, how much of it 165 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: needs to be kind of put on the cutting room floor. 166 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: Number one priority in that regard is the quarterback position, 167 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: and Trevor Lawrence spoke after practice Monday about the schedule 168 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,599 Speaker 1: of this offseason and how things are progressing. Obviously, this 169 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: this staff, like I said, has done a great job 170 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 1: of mapping that out for us. You know, I think 171 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: that's a huge part in the NFL compared to like 172 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: the change from there from college of the NFL is 173 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: how you play out your off season because there's so 174 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: many options of when you start, when you finish, what 175 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: you do each day, it's really flexible. You just have 176 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: that time window, but deciding what to fill those days with. 177 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: And I think our staffs did a great job of 178 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: getting us the right amount of time on the field 179 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: working together, but also in the classroom, meeting rooms, all that. 180 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: So I like where we're at. Obviously we're gonna we're 181 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: gonna do some stuff in the off season, and I 182 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: thought about all that, and um gotta get some clear 183 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: some things up and get those plans set. But we 184 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: I've thought about that. But I really like where we're at. Obviously, 185 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: you can't get in place until you've gotta keep building. 186 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: And the clock is just by the time we get 187 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: the camp, we want to be. Um, you still have 188 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: a few weeks, but you want to be as clean 189 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: as you can be when you get to camp, and UM, 190 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 1: we're right on track for that. So on track John 191 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: to get it on the field and then some maybe 192 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: some plans in the off season weeks ahead. I don't know. 193 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 1: I have no idea how you measure this, and I'm 194 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: not sure it is measurable. But the difference that Trevor 195 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 1: Lawrence must feel, and all players, but especially Trevor who 196 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: didn't have any frame of reference before last year, when 197 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: you walk in and you you hear the coach and 198 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: the coaching staff calmly tell you, Hey, we're doing this 199 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: this time of year, we're doing this this week, and 200 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: we'll get to that part in August. Don't worry that 201 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 1: we got it. The difference in that when you're preparing, 202 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 1: when you're trying to figure this out, when you're moving 203 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: forward buck. Yeah. I again, I don't think that you 204 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: can measure it, because it's probably immeasurable. I think for 205 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: Trevor it's probably all the difference in the world in 206 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 1: terms of an environment where you can grow. Yeah. No, 207 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 1: I think it makes a ton of difference. And I 208 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: will say this, um, not only when it comes to Trevor, 209 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: but with the rest of the team, because I do 210 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: think it's it's really important and I've touched on this before. Um, 211 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: the amount of former players that are on the coaching 212 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: step being able to calmly, um deliver the message to 213 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: the team. Here's where we're at, here's where we're going 214 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: to go, and here are the steps along the way 215 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: that we need to get to. So it's not necessarily 216 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: a speculative thing. Is hey, we walked in these shoes. 217 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: We have a clear plan for how we're going to 218 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: get it done. Just stay with the process and the 219 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: plan and these things will work out. I think for Trevor, 220 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: what I hear and in the sound bite is I 221 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: hear a level of confidence and feeling like the plan 222 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: that he is being given and feeling like what they're 223 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: doing makes sense and it's going to play out on 224 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: the field. When you talked about the way that you 225 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: fill up your days, the one thing that players, hey, 226 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: it is when you do a bunch of unnecessary stuff 227 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: that doesn't relate to playing the game. It appears to 228 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: me that Trevor is saying everything that they have done 229 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: on the field and off the field in the classroom 230 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: appears to have a tangible impact on how they're going 231 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: to play, and I think he appreciates that. And the 232 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: part that he talked about you want to clean everything 233 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: up so you hit training camp fast. You want to 234 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: clean it all up. I think that's really important, because 235 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: what you don't want to do is have to start 236 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: back over in training camp and waste a few days 237 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: going back to do stuff that you had covered in 238 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: the off season in O. T A. S. You would 239 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: like to clean up those things, and so instead of 240 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: doing a lot of review, we're now beginning to build 241 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: upon what we did in the off season, not necessarily 242 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: trying to remember and regain what we did in the 243 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: early part of the offs. To you, JP have gotten 244 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,719 Speaker 1: as we all have tons of questions about what's the 245 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: difference what serfence is so tas last year, or what 246 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: serents mean this year and last year. I think you 247 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: could go back and replay Bucky's SoundBite for the last minute. Uh, 248 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: And that's exactly what the difference is. The fact that 249 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: you get the idea that the players have a great 250 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: deal of confidence that what they're being told and what 251 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: they're doing is the right thing to do and it's 252 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: going to be productive, and there's confidence in that in 253 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: terms of preparation, JP, you know, in any line of work, 254 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 1: I don't know there's any more important than that. And 255 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 1: it feels like they've got it so if there's a difference, 256 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: and again, it's not a difference. I got in tons 257 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: of questions on these lines. Hey, when when you go 258 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: out to practice, what do you see? What's the difference? 259 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: What's the vibe? There's always a positive vibe during the offseason. 260 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 1: It was positive last year. They were fired up, is enthusiastic, 261 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 1: but that undertone that thing Bucky just said, you know, 262 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: I've gone on, I've I've been a long winded way 263 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: of saying, go listen to that. And that's the difference 264 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: there is now. I think that there's a confidence. Um, 265 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: I think you sent sense it. And I also think 266 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: with Doug. I think Doug has a confidence in knowing 267 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: what he's doing. And I think that comes from the 268 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: fact that he's won a super Bowl. Like, we can 269 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: see a lot of things, but it's different when you 270 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: wanted super Bowl. You've seen it come to fruition, you've 271 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: been to the mountaintop and those things, and now you're like, Okay, 272 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: here's what we need to do. And I think that 273 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: confidence is infectious. It's contagious because the guys look at 274 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: him differently because he is a super Bowl winner, and 275 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: he has some other guys that have had a level 276 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: of success individually and collectively on the staff that they 277 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: can look to. I think that's important. I think that 278 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: trust is everything. The trust between player and coach, player 279 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: and player and coach to coach is everything. All the 280 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,719 Speaker 1: exits and ohs and all that other stuff is one thing, 281 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: But the bond I think I think you can feel that, 282 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: you can sense that they kind of a putting that 283 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: together in Jacksonville. But jack Warriors are future focused and 284 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: ready for a new look in joint us to the 285 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: bank this season with a fantastic home schedule as quarterback 286 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence leads the charge. 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I don't think they are available for 296 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: Dave Matthews. They sell out in a matter of minutes, 297 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: I think when they open up anywhere. Looking forward to 298 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: that schedule coming up, I'm so torn on that, Like, 299 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: you know, the tacos and Margaret Rita has just had 300 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: me like I want to go and stay, But then 301 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: you got Dave Matthews at the end. That's a tough one. 302 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you're coming a week early. If you waited 303 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: a week, you know, maybe you with your you know, 304 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: vaulted status on our you know, marquee, maybe you'd be 305 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: able to get some seats for that. Or if we 306 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: tell Dave Matthews a buck he's gonna be here early, 307 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: maybe I'll get here earlier. Maybe so maybe maybe you 308 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: can come earlier. Maybe do the day's gonna come offices 309 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: and serenatas. Maybe maybe we can get them to do that. 310 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: That'd be nice touch. Dave mat Is gonna come in 311 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: there and be like, Hey, where's my guy Bucky? I 312 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: see him on TV all the time. They'll be asking 313 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: for Bucky Brooks. I'm sure we can get him in 314 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: the club. See, so you know, get into the sweets 315 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: a little bit, like a little, small, little intimate venue. 316 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: So we can kind of hear a couple of his 317 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: his favorites that that's possible. Hey, let's hear from Foyer Louikun. 318 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: He spoke with a couple of media folks after practice 319 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: on Monday. There's all this new talk about the rookie 320 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: linebackers that were drafted, of course, and Devin Lloyd and 321 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: Chad Moment. But remember Foyer lead the league in tackles 322 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: a year ago. He came in free agency and discussed 323 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: his ascension from a sixth round draft pick out of 324 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: Yale just a few years ago to now the top 325 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: tackler in the NFL. Seeing who I'm going up against 326 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: year after the year, understanding who who I think the 327 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: best in the game is, and seeing that they mess 328 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: up too. So instead of trying to play perfect, just play. 329 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: You know, have commented myself that I'm good enough to 330 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: be out there, and then once you start seeing the 331 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: place happening, to get more and more confident. So it's 332 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: kind of a progression, but it's uh, I work hard 333 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: enough to to earn that progression. So trust the work 334 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: that put in each every offseason and then just what 335 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: to happen. Never mind the leaf blower at the end there. 336 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: But you know, this is a guy that maybe over 337 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: the last month or two has been overshadowed a bit 338 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: because of the new names around here. Um, but Bucky, 339 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: how have you seen this guy grow as a linebacker 340 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: over the years? Six round picks don't always make it, 341 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: but he made it and made it in a big way. Yeah, 342 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: it made it in a big way. He talked about 343 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: earning to write um to kind of feel the way 344 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: he feels in terms of how you feel about himself 345 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: as a player. I think there's something to the process 346 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: of having to kind of climb up the ranks, uh, 347 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: climb the rungs of the ladder to become a starter 348 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: and then become one of the more productive players at 349 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: his position. He talked about looking at the others around 350 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: the league and realizing that the elites make mistakes and 351 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: they play hard, and so it took some of the 352 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: pressure off of him from feeling like he had to 353 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: play perfect. But I think what I got out of 354 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 1: that sound bite was just listening to him and the 355 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 1: level of confidence and intelligence that he has an articulating 356 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: how he plays the game. I think he obviously is 357 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 1: a natural leader, and I am really excited about the 358 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: young linebackers, and sometimes that excitement will overshadow like a 359 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,719 Speaker 1: Loui kind coming in. But when you think about the 360 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: young guys that they now have at that second level 361 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: of the defense, I think the common denominated when you 362 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: talk to all of them is smart, fast, physical. All 363 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: those guys have those traits, and so when you have 364 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: a smart defense and enables you to do a lot more, 365 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: you have guys at that second level that can tide 366 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: back in with the front end and do a bunch 367 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: of different things. I'm really excited about the football character 368 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: that they have because that football character, combined with the athleticism, 369 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: should allow the defense to present a bunch of different 370 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: looks to appose an offense. I'm gonna be careful when 371 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: I say, because this is the three and fourteen team 372 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: last year, but they've finally gotten to the point, especially 373 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: on the front of the defense where because of Foyer 374 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: Oliver Kina, I'm getting better than name you started adding 375 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: Muma Lloyd, Alan Snoot, Carolan Chase's first round pick. Uh, 376 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: you know he hasn't produced yet, but there's talent there. 377 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: Uh you started going along the defensive front. You know, 378 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: there's all of a sudden numbers where if one or 379 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 1: two of these guys aren't quite what you thought coming in, 380 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: you still got guys who come at you. And wait, 381 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: you know it's been so thin around here in terms 382 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: you might look at and say, okay, Uh, who's good 383 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: up front? You might say, okay, Miles and Josh Allen, 384 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: and then you know, okay, who else? They've got some numbers? Now, Uh, 385 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 1: defense to me, Seattle's defense in in what thirteen or 386 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 1: fourteen when they want it, it's sort of the to me, 387 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: the defense you think about in the last ten years. Well, 388 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: that thing came at you in waves. There were players 389 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 1: all over the place, jars put themselves in a situation 390 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: where they might be that they might have a chance 391 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: to be more like that. And again, as you said, 392 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: he's been overlooked because of the guys coming in. But 393 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: now of a sudden you get three, four or five 394 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: guys and the linebacker corps they been called well my 395 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: Mike call wild. Even Square talks about versatility and using 396 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: different guys. They've got them all of a sudden, and uh, 397 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,959 Speaker 1: you know, a credit to them for rebuilding an area 398 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: and adding to some strength. That might why not being 399 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: a strength and hasn't been a strengthened to as an eighteen. Yeah, look, 400 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: let's let's let's go back and you know you brought 401 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: out Seattle, but let's keep it right in the house. 402 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: That defense and that team and the players that were 403 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: on it. I'm a firm believer haven't been tall this 404 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: eight to twelve blue chip players need to be on 405 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: your roster for your team to compete at a super 406 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: Bowl level. When you look at that Saxonville team, I 407 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: think we can confidently say there were six or more 408 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: blue chip players. When you think about how they played 409 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: that year. Uma Clais Campbell was at that level, Miles 410 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: Jack played well, Telling Smith played well. You think about 411 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: the secondary when you had Jalen Rams and a j. 412 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: Boyer Um. Look, I think Jannakway played pretty well that 413 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: year as well. So that right there, Yeah so so 414 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: so when you think about that, like so, that's why 415 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: to me, the magic number is ten and building up 416 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: this roster, you're looking for ten guys offensive defense that 417 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: can play the blue chip level, and by blue chip level, 418 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: I mean top five, top ten of their respective position. 419 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: If you do that, now you begin to make Hey, 420 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 1: you begin to close the gap on the competition. And 421 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: so the names that were beginning to talk about, and 422 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: that we haven't seen them play, but the names that 423 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: we're beginning to talk about, at least from a physical standpoint, 424 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: they look like they may have those characteristics. Mentally from 425 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: a football character standpoint, they had that. Now they have 426 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: to go out and play it. But that is kind 427 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: of the bar. So as we're looking at this team 428 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: throughout the preseason, particularly on defense, less use the seventeen 429 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: defense as the bar and look at how these guys 430 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: progress and see if they can get to that level. 431 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: Because remember, the quarterback didn't play great or whatever. However 432 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: the quarterback played there was one thing, but the team 433 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: was so talented that he still went to the championship game. 434 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: So as you're building that team up, you just want 435 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: to kind of connect the dots and see how many 436 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: blue chip guys have murdered and that JP. You know, 437 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: if you ask me, I mean it's stood out no 438 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: t s. Christian Kirk. I thought I had a couple 439 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: of plays that you really like. Uh, a few plays 440 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: like that. But the big takeaway when I walked off 441 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: the field, was a Chad Mma is a monster physically 442 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 1: he he he. He was sort of a pick the 443 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: raised eyebrows when they took him in the third round. 444 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: But the reason I mentioned is speaks to Bucky's point. 445 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: He looks to me like a player that you got 446 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: in the third round who bare minimum he's gonna be 447 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: able to give you something on defense? Is he and 448 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: everything linebacker that maybe expect Devin Lloyd to be. I 449 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: don't know, but you look at him as a third 450 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: round pick, and physically when you even when the veterans 451 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: got on the field, you went, wow, that kid is 452 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: is different. Um. So you got that at number seven, 453 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: You get that into the third round, which means maybe 454 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: you've got four guys like that. Uh. That I think 455 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 1: was the philosophy behind what they did in the draft 456 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: was trying to get to what buck he's talking about, 457 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: trying to get what Okay, maybe we've already gotten numbers 458 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: of this position. I don't think they saw a receiver 459 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: at seventy, for example, who looked that way like he 460 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: fit into what Buck he's talking about as much as 461 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: Chad Movement did. And that to me feels like what 462 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: that pick was about. Bucky. I got a question for 463 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 1: the scout, how about that, John? How many if you're 464 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: scouting the l A Rams, how many blue chip players 465 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,719 Speaker 1: are in their starting lineups offensive defense right now? Just 466 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: an elite team like they are, they are they are loaded. 467 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: So if we just go back to let's just use 468 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: last year's team because he easy to keep up. Um. 469 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: So defensively, Jalen Ramsey played at that level. Up front, 470 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: you had Aaron Donald who could play at that level. Uh. 471 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: You flip on the other side of the ball. Uh, yeah, 472 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford who played there. You had Cooper cup who 473 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: could play at that level. Um. Oh b g a 474 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: was coming off an injury, but we saw in the 475 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: postseason he could play that level for five Um. You know, 476 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: it's kind of funny because von Miller was a flasher, 477 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: but at the end the year he played there, so 478 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: we kind of like six or seven and then collectively 479 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: they had guys that kind of did it, but they 480 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: weren't necessarily the classes. The thing is their blue chip 481 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: players or what we call gold jacket guys, their Hall 482 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: of Fame guys, and so that that makes a difference 483 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 1: because they kind of raises the level of everyone there. 484 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: But like, those are the kind of guys that you 485 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: have to have. Um. I think what John brings up 486 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: about Chad Moment like one of the things and O 487 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: T A S or whatever, like I tell people because 488 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: people ask like it's scouting hard, I don't think it's 489 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: necessarily that hard. I think you have to trust what 490 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: you see. I think when you're standing there, it really 491 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: shouldn't be hard to figure out the good players. And 492 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: so when the rookies come in and they're mixing in 493 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: with the vets, do you see enough to make you 494 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 1: go wow? You want to see some ooze, some odds 495 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: just from them running around. I know we're not in past, 496 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: but you want to be able to see the athleticism 497 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 1: and talent flash where you're like, okay, that goes. And 498 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: so I'm really excited about Moment because I said this 499 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: at all other gig, I talked about Devin Lloyd and 500 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: Chad Moment ranking number one and number five on the 501 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: linebacker list. I believe that to be true. I think 502 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: Momon's gonna be outstand new player well. And he wasn't 503 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: there Monday. Uh, And I'm referring to a Trayvon Walker, 504 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: but a couple of the writers and I did talk 505 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: to Josh Allen afterward, and as I mentioned on on 506 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: our reporters the other day, Josh Allen is an impressive 507 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: kid physically. I mean, he's he looks the part like 508 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 1: we're talking about. He was amazed at what he had 509 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: seen from Trayvon Walker. That's how different Traylon Walker is 510 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: in terms of body type. For the NFL is Josh 511 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: Allen was like, yeah, this kids are free, Josh Allen 512 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: and Josh free. Yes, he could have been the number 513 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: one pick in the draft. So we'll see. So we 514 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: will see and Bucky you'll see in person next week. Yes, 515 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: I will. I'm excited and a little uh. I may 516 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 1: even bring my notebook out so I look like a scout. 517 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 1: We're a little notebook and my pan takes some more 518 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: notes see what we see. But I'm really excited based 519 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: on I listened to it UH podcast when John was 520 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 1: talking about Traylon Walking with Josh Allen that's th about. 521 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 1: So I'm excited to see him up close and personal 522 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: and to see the rest of the guys. But I'm 523 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: really excited to see the offense because we talked a 524 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: lot about the defense, but offensively, Here's what I say, 525 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: and I'll say this about Trevor Um. There are a 526 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 1: lot of people that were kind of shocked at the 527 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 1: amount of money that Christian Kirk got. But I will 528 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: say this, and I'm a firm reliever, having been in 529 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 1: the system with Doug, having played with him and Matt, 530 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 1: Mike McCoy and those guys, I would say this, you 531 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: don't necessarily need a level receivers to have a super 532 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: Bowl caliber offense. If you look at this offense UM 533 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 1: in the past, going back to women Green Bay, if 534 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: you have a bunch of B B plus is on 535 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 1: the perimeter that a great route runner and consistent pass catchers, 536 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: you can light it up. You look at the team 537 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 1: that he took in Philadelphia to the Super Bowl. There 538 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: wasn't a pure number one receiver, but they were really 539 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: good receivers and so they kind of shared the wealth. 540 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: I think Jacksonville has that potential with Evan Ingram Day Jones, 541 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk, Marvin Jones. I believe for the first time 542 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 1: in a long time, we'll see a very consistent area 543 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: let's and that can make a ward of difference when 544 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: we talk about compete in AFC SALTH. Bucky, have a 545 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: fantastic Memorial Day weekend. We'll talk to you next week 546 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: here in Jacksonville. Yeah, let's do it. That's Bucky Brooks 547 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 1: NFL Network. That's John Osier, Jaguars dot Com. Joe Fortunado 548 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: here as well. I'm J P. Shadrick. 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