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Speaker 1: My girlfriend wants me to date her friend. Should I

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Speaker 1: break up with her? Why not date them both? My

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Speaker 1: girlfriend is bye or as in gone byebye because you're

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Speaker 1: gonna break up or bye bye bye, and primarily dated

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Speaker 1: women before we met. We're getting serious and talking about

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Speaker 1: getting married. We've dated for over two years, but recently

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Speaker 1: she's been making a lot of poly jokes and I'm

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Speaker 1: not really into it. She has this friend, and I

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Speaker 1: get the feeling is just waiting for a hiccup in

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Speaker 1: our relationship. Make a move. She's by and openly makes

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Speaker 1: jokes about being spicy sleep gel with my girlfriend. By

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Speaker 1: the way, this comes from Incognito quidos six x' six

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Speaker 1: on the rsage Okay storytime suffreddit, so submit your stories there.

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Speaker 1: Back to the story, I've shared that I don't like

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Speaker 1: it before, but she jokes that I'm gay for not

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Speaker 1: being into it, but maybe I should just be into

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Speaker 1: the experience. But honestly, this person just makes me uncomfortable

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Speaker 1: too often. Besides that, she's just not my type. Spicy

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Speaker 1: sleep you'll lean. We had a long conversation about COVID

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Speaker 1: about what she wanted to be referred to. He slashed him,

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Speaker 1: so I did wait what I think?

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Speaker 2: Is it a long time? Like? Basically, Ope's partner is

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Speaker 2: like I want to use hean pronouns. Yes, I think

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Speaker 2: that's what it is.

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Speaker 1: Oh is that true? I think so I agreed on Okay,

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Speaker 1: so I did. Two years later he wanted to be

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Speaker 1: referred to as they them, so I did. Recently she

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Speaker 1: circled back to she her, which is fine, but the

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Speaker 1: whole time she dresses like a Kyle, not a Kyle

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Speaker 1: knocking back Monster energies. Yeah, Kyle, I want to see

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Speaker 1: a picture of this person. Oh, for those of you

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Speaker 1: that are unfamiliar, a Kyle is a guy that wears

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Speaker 1: Fox apparel washes down a vape with a Monster energy drink.

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Speaker 1: She would be a track. But it's like her idea

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Speaker 1: of masculinity was formed from high school douchebags, not thirty

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Speaker 1: year old men. Let's go anyway. Saturday, we go into

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Speaker 1: a fight because we have some friends over. Kyle was

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Speaker 1: the last one to leave. We'd all been drinking. I

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Speaker 1: was in the kitchen putting away some food and I

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Speaker 1: see this, a hole put his hand on my girlfriend.

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Speaker 3: Kyle's no, no, no, no, wait, I think Kyle is

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Speaker 3: the friend.

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Speaker 2: Yes, this is very confusing. She just said he said

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Speaker 2: that she's dressing like a Kyle and now that a

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Speaker 2: new actual human Kyle has entered the chat and is

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Speaker 2: grasping the cheeks.

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Speaker 3: No, I think that Ope's just calling this friend Kyle.

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Speaker 1: Wait wait wait wait okay, wait wait really quick this

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Speaker 1: person conversation. We had a long conversation about COVID about

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Speaker 1: what she wanted to be referred to.

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Speaker 3: I think this is I think that's the friend, not

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Speaker 3: the girlfriend.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so here we go. So Kyle is not

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Speaker 1: Ope's girlfriend. Yes, yeah, Kyle is Ope's girlfriend friend. Correct, Okay,

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Speaker 1: comprehend there was a dangling subject or there that it

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Speaker 1: could have been referred to either Ope's girlfriend or this

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Speaker 1: new friend. Okay. Anyway, Saturday, we got into a fight

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Speaker 1: because we had some friends over. Kyle was the last

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Speaker 1: one to leave. Ope's girlfriend's friend that has that is

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Speaker 1: maybe interested in joining the triumph for it. We'd all

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Speaker 1: been drinking. I was in the kitchen putting away some

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Speaker 1: food and I see this a hole put his hand

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Speaker 1: on my girlfriend's booty cheeks. I let her know right away, Kyle,

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Speaker 1: that's the line, and you just crossed it. Stop, don't

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Speaker 1: touch her there, that's my private square. My girlfriend gives

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Speaker 1: her classic. That's just how girls joke and goes and goes.

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Speaker 1: They did a silly little dance twirl thing that ended

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Speaker 1: with my girlfriend on Kyle's lap. I'd had enough and

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Speaker 1: stepped into the room. My girlfriend doubled down and said

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Speaker 1: two women. I guess, so maybe I was blunt and

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Speaker 1: said I was uninterested in sharing her with anyone. Kyle

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Speaker 1: then said something like, maybe I could strap one on.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you'd prefer a man. I was drunk. This aole

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Speaker 1: had his hand on my girlfriend's waist and my girlfriend

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Speaker 1: on her lap. I lost it. I don't remember what

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Speaker 1: I said exactly, something like if you were a man,

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Speaker 1: This struck some kind of cord with her. She postured

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Speaker 1: up like a gorilla, and it was a three way

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Speaker 1: I don't know what was said exactly, but it ended

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Speaker 1: with Kyle loudly proclaiming that she had to leave before

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Speaker 2: I was holding my gorilla foster and waiting for.

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Speaker 1: A posing gorilla. All right, really quick, really quick, before

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Speaker 1: we uh move on from the gorilla post. Do you

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Speaker 1: think op was out of line for saying if you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like shouldn't have said that, But I do think

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Speaker 2: a certain level of like maybe like you need to

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Speaker 2: get out right now, you're being so disrespectful, like get

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Speaker 2: the f out of here. Something like that I think

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Speaker 2: would have been better. Yeah, not the move to say that,

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Speaker 2: but I do think that you can get like really

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Speaker 2: because like this Kyle, Kyle is not getting it.

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Speaker 1: This Kyle isn't getting it. But honestly, if I was

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Speaker 1: in this situation, I don't think I would be mad

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Speaker 1: mad at my girlfriend for allowing Kyle to to be

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Speaker 1: all like this, like it seems like the girlfriend. The

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Speaker 1: girlfriend's not like, oh I'm uncomfortable. The girlfriend's like you

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Speaker 1: should be okay with this.

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Speaker 2: Totally, I think I would be equal mad that every

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Speaker 2: because because the thing is, every time Opie says something,

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Speaker 2: Kyle then ups the ante every like, oh, oh you

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Speaker 2: don't like this, how about two X, Oh you don't

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Speaker 2: like that? How about five x worse? Like it just

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Speaker 2: keeps getting worse and worse. I'm like, yo, get get

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I am my house. I could see being mad,

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Speaker 1: like I would probably be mad at Kyle, but I

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Speaker 1: because I think she's allowing the behavior.

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Speaker 3: He's the one who's in the like agreement in the relationship.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, here's the problem. My girlfriend somehow thinks that I

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Speaker 1: need to apologize me for threatening a person who came

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Speaker 1: into my home, grabbed my girlfriend's booty cheeks, sat her

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Speaker 1: needlessly introduced violence and forced Kyle to drive home intoxicated.

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Speaker 1: I honestly can't fathom an apology, and I honestly don't

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Speaker 1: care to have Kyle in her life anymore. I'm not

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Speaker 1: typically the one to die on a hill, but I

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Speaker 1: feel like anything short of digging my heels in is unacceptable.

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Speaker 1: I told her, I think about it. She's staying at

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Speaker 1: a cousin's house for a few days. If it was

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Speaker 1: Saturday was just the tipping point. But honestly, she acts

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Speaker 1: I think she wants to be by and I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of her friends are doing the POLLI thing.

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Speaker 1: It's just not for me. I want one partnership with

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Speaker 1: one person. All of her Polly friends are in relationships,

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Speaker 1: but they come and go. There's nothing concrete there. She

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Speaker 1: claims to want kids, she claims to want commitment, but

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Speaker 1: her actions say otherwise. And there is a thick, juicy

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Speaker 1: update one day later, and it's thick, it's juicy, and

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Speaker 1: and it's an update, but really quick. Stopping right here,

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Speaker 1: does ope ow an apology to Kyle.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I'm leaning towards no right now. I don't think

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Speaker 2: that Opie should should have said it. I don't know I.

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Speaker 1: Would break up. I would I would break up yet

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Speaker 1: so break up.

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Speaker 2: I would break up that that would be the first thing,

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Speaker 2: because I'm like, you are so like. The thing is

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Speaker 2: it seemed like kurt me if I'm wrong. Op made

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Speaker 2: it pretty clear that he's like Hey, I don't want this.

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Speaker 1: They've had conversations about this before. This isn't an isolated incident.

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Speaker 1: Because it's not an isolated incident. That's why the conversation

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Speaker 1: has come up. Opie's been very clear, I don't want

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Speaker 1: transgressed every boundary. This is the tipping point. I feel

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Speaker 2: And if Op's girlfriend was like, Hey, if you're not

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Speaker 2: down with this, understood, but I want to have a

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Speaker 2: poly relationship when I'm leave, more power to you, Like

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Speaker 2: go ahead. But the fact it almost felt like vindictive

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Speaker 2: the way that they were like getting together and kind

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Speaker 2: of like upping the antia.

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Speaker 1: Don't like it one bit. Don't like it one bit.

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Speaker 1: But we got a thick, juicy update to close us out.

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Speaker 1: So but we'll do it to Actually, we'll do a

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Speaker 1: quick TLDR before we get into a thick juicy updates.

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Speaker 1: So my girlfriend has a girlfriend that presents very masculine

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Speaker 1: and she makes spicy sleep jokes with Saturday. She positioned

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Speaker 1: a three way. I got upset and her friend basically

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Speaker 1: called me gay. So we almost fought. Now, my girlfriend

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Speaker 1: wants me to apologize. I don't want to apologize. I

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Speaker 1: can maybe get over it if we agree not to

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Speaker 1: see Kyle again. I don't want to scrub another long

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Speaker 1: term relationship. But is this even something you can work past?

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Speaker 1: An edit, she claims she's coming by to pick up

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Speaker 1: things for work. I feel like a conversation is unavoidable.

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Speaker 1: I've taken what I want out of the competent suggestions

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Speaker 1: I want to hit. I may update tomorrow, and here

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Speaker 1: is that update. I'm just going to go off the

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Speaker 1: bullet points of the conversation because I'm over it. She

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Speaker 1: of How to Train Dragons? What's hotd House of the Dragon?

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Speaker 1: Of the Dragon. I told her that I was uncomfortable

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Speaker 1: as follows. I mentioned that I felt no need to

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Speaker 1: average person would display hostility towards someone who acted the

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Speaker 1: way Kyle acted. Her response was that she felt it

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Speaker 1: I cut her off and told her she wasn't listening

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Speaker 1: to me if that was how she felt. She stated

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Speaker 1: that I introduced violence, and that's what I should be

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Speaker 1: apologizing for. I stood my ground and said that any

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Speaker 1: front of them without their consent, should understand that they're

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Speaker 1: going to provoke a reaction. Given that I actually have

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Speaker 1: boxing experience, I showed restraint.

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Speaker 2: Oh you know me and the olk, Oh the old

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Speaker 2: ones zo like I actually went to a fight club.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I could mess this Kuyle up, but I don't

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Speaker 1: want to talk about it.

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Speaker 2: I've seen a few Kyle's in my get in my day, but.

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Speaker 1: Uh, I keep that on, keep that on the d.

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Speaker 3: L with Kyle's. You don't talk about Kyle.

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Speaker 1: You talk about Guyle. You just bury them deep in

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Speaker 1: the desert, never to it dead. She made this weird

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Speaker 1: Let us ask it of the live because we go

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Speaker 1: live every weekday at three PMPSD. So if you want

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is like just so obvious that Op would

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Speaker 2: You got to figure out, you know what, what's a

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Speaker 1: And it seems like the chat agrees they when I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let us know if you believe that they should

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Speaker 1: stay in Life after Love. But with that, that is

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Speaker 1: So if you love us, make sure to subscribe We

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Speaker 1: My doctor exposed me for having an affair to my wife.

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Speaker 1: This has to be a violation.

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Speaker 2: You know, what if you like getting violated?

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Speaker 1: What's that your kink? What if that's your kink? Baby

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Speaker 1: Ahole all from OP from op for doctor Wow.

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Speaker 1: I like it all right? This is sort of a

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Speaker 1: emergency contact is my brother. All events take place in Florida.

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Speaker 1: My question is did this doctor breach her duty as

436
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Speaker 1: she claims? Is there some sort of exception? Additionally, I

437
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Speaker 1: understood that she can discharge me as a patient for

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Speaker 1: any reason, but I presume a doctor can't discriminate on

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Speaker 1: the basis of sex or other legally protected classes. This

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Speaker 1: one is less important to me because I would not

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Speaker 1: remain in her care. But it does strike me as

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Speaker 1: unfair that I paid a large forty K and will

443
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Speaker 1: renewal fee to her office. I would like it to

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Speaker 1: at least be refunded my pro rate share of that fee.

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Speaker 1: Thanks in advance. So, John, I want to know who

446
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Speaker 1: you think is the a hole here? Who do you

447
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Speaker 1: think is the angel? What would you do put in

448
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,439
Speaker 1: the comments? What you guys think is going on in

449
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Speaker 1: the story? What do you think the doctor is doing?

450
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 1: Is it in line? Is an auDA line? What about op?

451
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Speaker 1: But John? What do you think?

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Speaker 2: Wow, I'm flipping my prediction big time because this doctor

453
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Speaker 2: is in set for forty K for a doctor. She's

454
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Speaker 2: homophobic as faugh and that I was wondering I was wondering, like,

455
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Speaker 2: is it like in a different instance where there wasn't

456
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Speaker 2: like an open marriage and all this stuff. If someone comes,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess it is technically none of a

458
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Speaker 2: doctor's business, but it looks like the law is you

459
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Speaker 2: cannot go. Yeah, because it's not against a lot of cheat.

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Speaker 2: I guess, I don't know. I was just like, no,

461
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 2: it's just my brain was melting out of my ears

462
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Speaker 2: with the story.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's one hundred percent discrimination. Also, a

464
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Speaker 1: slight like update is just to clarify. So there was

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Speaker 1: a thing where, like you know, the doctor was like, oh, like,

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Speaker 1: you're endangering my other patient, your wife by possibly getting

467
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Speaker 1: SDDS and spreading it to her right right, So just

468
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Speaker 1: to clarify, if you carefully read my post, I've been

469
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Speaker 1: monogamously seeing one specific command who, including my wife, is

470
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Speaker 1: my only sexual partner. We will see that I have

471
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Speaker 1: not been sexually active with my wife since before our

472
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Speaker 1: open marriage started. She is not a sexual partner of mine.

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Speaker 2: I see, I see, I see. Okay, so they're not

474
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Speaker 2: even having sex. So basically there isn't a risk to

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Speaker 2: in fact, I guess as long as they don't do it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, so the doctor is just completely going out

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Speaker 1: of line.

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Speaker 2: Oh, just insane. Also, forty grand a year for a

479
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Speaker 2: private doctor, I know, that's insane. What do they do

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Speaker 2: for work?

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Speaker 1: What these people? Yeah? Ope, I don't know, man, but

482
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Speaker 1: they seem pretty smart. I mean the post as well.

483
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Speaker 2: Out a private office apparently to sin.

484
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Speaker 1: But obviously not a private lawyer.

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Speaker 2: That's true some other high pain I would have read

486
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Speaker 2: it for that. That is actually super hilarious. What would

487
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Speaker 2: you do in this situation like this is?

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Speaker 1: I mean I would get a lawyer. I mean like

489
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Speaker 1: it's for sure a hip of violation to do this.

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Speaker 1: Although the doctor is one hundred percent the a hole,

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Speaker 1: I feel like op is a little bit the a

492
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Speaker 1: hole for going outside of what the he said he

493
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Speaker 1: was going to do in the open marriage. I don't

494
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Speaker 1: know what the rules are, but he said he broke

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Speaker 1: the code within the open marriage, and he's kind of

496
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Speaker 1: being secretive from his wife and stuff. So I feel like, yeah,

497
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Speaker 1: that's that's a little bit. But legally speaking, you know,

498
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Speaker 1: he's he's chilling, I think. But yeah, the doctor totally

499
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Speaker 1: a whole move. Although I do believe the doctor is

500
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Speaker 1: doing what she thinks is right. Even though she's incredibly

501
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 1: misguided by what that actually is.

502
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Speaker 2: But also it's like you get to a certain person

503
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 2: who's like they believe something right, but it's it's the

504
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 2: self righteousness, you know what I mean, it's even at

505
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 2: a complete vindictive angle in addition to being so wrong.

506
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's man, it's ridiculous, dude, it's ridiculous.

507
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Speaker 2: I mean, Sam, this is a complete mess. But we

508
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 2: have a story with another messy family situation.

509
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Speaker 1: Okay, let's see this mess.

510
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Speaker 2: What is the laziest thing you have ever done? Okayop?

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Speaker 1: This is Okayop. I'm Samuel Donner John and we tell

512
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Speaker 1: the funniest stories on the internet. And John, what are

513
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: your favorite kind of headphones? Uh?

514
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 2: You know, air pods are pretty cool.

515
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: I honestly actually have a problem with air pods right now,

516
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 1: so beef, Yeah, well it will not. I don't have

517
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: a problem, but they are creating a problem in my life.

518
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 1: So my roommates hate my AirPods because apparently they make

519
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Speaker 1: me sound like foot because I don't really I don't

520
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: realize how loud I'm being in the morning because I

521
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: have my noise canceling air pods in and so I'm

522
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 1: stomping around everywhere, and my roommate Christian is always like, hey,

523
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 1: Bigfoot's at it again, get it up at five am

524
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 1: for his morning runs. So those headphones are not doing

525
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: my roommates any services, but they're doing me tons. I love,

526
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: I love noise canceling.

527
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 2: All of your loud stomps are just yeah, I don't

528
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 2: hear what thing?

529
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: Not a thing? But you know what I would love

530
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: to hear is your story. So can you lay it

531
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Speaker 1: on me?

532
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 2: What is the laziest thing you have ever done? I

533
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 2: didn't want to get up to get scissors to open

534
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 2: a package I had, so I grabbed the cat and

535
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 2: used his claws. It was soft plastic and the cat

536
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 2: was indifferent. Oh my gosh.

537
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: Wow us the animals to open your packages. That's that's

538
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 1: a new level. That's a new level.

539
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 2: Used to have one of those clap on clap off

540
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 2: lights in my room I hated, So I just made

541
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 2: an audio recording of me clapping and mapped it to

542
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 2: one of the programmable keys on my keyboard.

543
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: That's a new level of laziness. He doesn't want to

544
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 1: even move his things from my keyboard. Very lazy.

545
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 2: I always heit things in the microwave for one minute

546
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 2: and eleven seconds or two minutes and twenty two seconds.

547
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 2: Not because I'm too lazy to move my finger, because

548
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 2: I'm too lazy to move my fingers to the zero

549
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 2: before I hit start.

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00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: Honestly, that that's a hack. That's a time saving hack.

551
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 2: So let you just let it run down to like.

552
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: One instead of saying two to oh, you say two

553
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: to two to two.

554
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 2: A I shout out to you.

555
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: That's a new level of laziness, but I love it.

556
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 2: I was laying in bed with a light on and

557
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 2: wanted to go to sleep with it off, as one does.

558
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,719
Speaker 2: I called my house for my cell phone and asked

559
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 2: for myself in a disguised voice. When my mom came

560
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,959
Speaker 2: in to bring me the phone, I asked her to

561
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 2: turn the white off. When she left, hung up both

562
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 2: phones and went to sleep. Wow.

563
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: That that is actually lazy, because you're making someone else

564
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: do your work for you.

565
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: Like, oh, someone's here for Jimmy. And then your mom

566
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 2: comes like hey, and you're like turn the light off,

567
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: and your own mother.

568
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,239
Speaker 1: And your own mother, like you could have gotten up

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Speaker 1: and done it.

570
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 2: Shot ten nerf darts at the light switch from my bed,

571
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 2: missed all of them and slept with the lights on.

572
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: I love when the commitment to being lazy is actually

573
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: not as lazy as doing the thing that you're avoiding,

574
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: like shooting ten nerve darts and then sleeping with the

575
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Speaker 1: lights on.

576
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 2: Wash my bed sheets. Didn't put the sheets on until

577
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 2: two months later.

578
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: Sounds like my roommate are on. He has not put

579
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: his bed sheets on. Still in his room. Wait wait,

580
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: he just sleeps on it, on it, he sleeps on

581
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: it empty, and he also sleeps at the lights on.

582
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: He won't turn off the lights in his room. That

583
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Speaker 1: he's this guy never Yeah, I could never sleep with

584
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: the light Yeah. No, ridiculous.

585
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 2: Wait to the party, but this one is too good

586
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 2: to pass up. I was once on a US military

587
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 2: ship having breakfast in the wardroom, the officer's lounge. When

588
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 2: the operations officer OPS walks in. This guy was the

589
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 2: definition of not a morning person. He was still half asleep,

590
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 2: blurry eyed, basically a zombie with a bagel. He sits

591
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 2: down across from me to eat his bagel, and it

592
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 2: is just barely conscious. My back is to the outboard

593
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,719
Speaker 2: side of the ship and the morning sun is blazing

594
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 2: in one of the portholes, putting a big, bright circle

595
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 2: of light right on his barely conscious face. He's squinting

596
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 2: and chewing and basically just remembering how to be alive

597
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 2: for today. But then the zombie Ops stops chewing, slowly,

598
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 2: picks up the phone and dials the bridge in his

599
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 2: well known I'm still totally asleep voice. He says, Hey,

600
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 2: it's Ops, could you shift the ship? Yeah? One six', five,

601
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Speaker 2: thanks and puts the phone. Down and he just sits,

602
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 2: there squinting and, Waiting and, then ever so SLOWLY i

603
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 2: realize that the big blazing spot of sun has begun

604
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 2: to slide off of The zombies' face onto the wall behind.

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00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 2: Him after a few, moments it clears his, face and

606
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 2: he blinks slowly a few, times and the brilliant beauty

607
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 2: of What i've just witnessed begins to overwhelm. Me by

608
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 2: ordering the bridge to adjust the ships back and forth

609
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 2: patrol by about fifteen, degrees he's changed our course of

610
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 2: the ship just enough to reposition the sun off of his.

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00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 2: Face he's literally redirected thousands of tons of steel with

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Speaker 2: hundreds of, people just so he could sit with the

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Speaker 2: sun out of his eyes while he eats his. Bagel,

614
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 2: wow oh my, god that is so.

615
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Speaker 1: Lazy thousands of tons and freaking hundreds of, people probably

616
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Speaker 1: like millions of dollars to truly, like oh my, goodness.

617
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Speaker 2: Could he not have just like found a new seat or.

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Speaker 1: Something, NO i don't if he has to turn the

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Speaker 1: whole day over ship.

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Speaker 2: Around, also it's hilarious That i'm guessing this person is

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Speaker 2: like highly. Ranking someone who's like so highly ranked is

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Speaker 2: literally just Like i'm gonna move the ship to get

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Speaker 2: the sun out of my face right.

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Speaker 1: NOW i guess that's what you can do when you're

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Speaker 1: that high.

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