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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steelers Nation. It's the Drive on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network. West Shueler and Matt Williamson with you here

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Speaker 2: on a Tuesday. But we have got plenty to get to.

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Speaker 2: Gotta do our little Tuesday rewind. We're gonna talk power rankings,

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Speaker 2: fantasy football, catch up with Chris at Damski.

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Speaker 3: It's a loaded show on the Brocket.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like they're all pretty much loaded shows

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Speaker 2: at this point of the time of the season.

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Speaker 3: YEA, so plenty to get to.

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Speaker 2: But on a Tuesday, we will start with all the latest,

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Speaker 2: the kind of news of the day, as we always do.

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Speaker 3: From the oh part of me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, TV brought me an uncrustable from down to the

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Speaker 2: South Side facility, and I am very grateful. But I

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Speaker 2: shouldn't have ate that thirty seconds before we hit the

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Speaker 2: record button, because now I'm like, no, I'm coughing it

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Speaker 2: back up.

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Speaker 4: I always said, man, hiccups are like our worst nightmare

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Speaker 4: big time. I mean, it's kneezing and sneezing, spell and hiccups.

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Speaker 4: I'd rather have a broken leg.

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Speaker 2: Total total, and like you lose your voice and you say, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I starting a little bit, Yeah you got you gotta

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Speaker 2: do the show for two or three days. So I

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Speaker 2: just chain smoked a pack of Marlboroughs.

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Speaker 4: But those hiccups, they'll sneak up on you man all

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Speaker 4: the time, right right.

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Speaker 3: Oh, no, peeling back the curtain for everybody.

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Speaker 2: When I first started doing this here in Pittsburgh in

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Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, you know, I was. I worked for a

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Speaker 2: minor league hockey team for a couple of years. I

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Speaker 2: worked for the Eagles and the Phillies out in Philadelphia

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Speaker 2: for a couple of years, and then July of twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 2: was fortunate enough to get a job back in my

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Speaker 2: hometown with the team and the organiza. Yeah, I grew

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Speaker 2: up rooting for and and all that good stuff. I

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Speaker 2: was blown away when I when I still would have

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Speaker 2: to engineer a lot of remote since when you're kind

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Speaker 2: of the low man on the totem pole, right, you're

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Speaker 2: doing all the grunt work stuff. I would always be

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Speaker 2: engineering shows with you and Wolf, you know, at the

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Speaker 2: South Point, and it would just it would boggle my

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Speaker 2: mind in the most impressive way. How in the middle

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Speaker 2: of a segment, you and Wolf could go back and

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Speaker 2: forth making great football points while each like clearing a

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Speaker 2: rack of ribs off your plate.

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Speaker 4: He was way better at that.

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Speaker 3: You wouldn't hiccup, you wouldn't burp, you wouldn't stutter. It

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Speaker 3: was seedless. It was unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, not only is it impressive how quickly they're

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Speaker 2: putting down this rack of ribs, but they're also not

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Speaker 2: burping and coughing and making a show of it on air.

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Speaker 3: It was It was good stuff.

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Speaker 4: I've noticed over the years that du Lac and Wolf

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Speaker 4: were the best at eating wow live on the air.

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Speaker 3: He like flips his head set up and you got

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Speaker 3: it for the next.

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Speaker 4: Four minutes, real like elegant about it. Like Wolf was like,

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Speaker 4: you know, Jerry, as you know, is like smooth. You know,

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Speaker 4: golfer doesn't get any barbecue sauce on him or whatever.

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Speaker 4: But Wolf was like, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, during camp, Jerry and I did a couple of shows.

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Speaker 4: I think, like that's exactly puts the headset up, Like,

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Speaker 4: I guess I better keep talking for a while.

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Speaker 2: Jerry and I think did three or four shows together

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Speaker 2: throughout the few weeks of training, camp the night shows

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Speaker 2: a couple of Sharky's couple of dinos.

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Speaker 3: And it is so because when.

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Speaker 2: He when he flicks that headset microphone up, you're like,

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Speaker 2: I guess I'm talking for.

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Speaker 4: The point back to Jerry real quick, because he's wolfing

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Speaker 4: down some uh you know, some cod or trout or

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Speaker 4: samon or whatever whatever fish he was putting down there

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I was always very impressed by that. And

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Speaker 2: then there's me and I can't even handle a few

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Speaker 3: But Matt, let's get into.

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Speaker 4: Like along those lines. I do that Wednesday night show still, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and uh my go to is buffalo fingers. I would

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Speaker 4: prefer wings, but they're just they're a mess, you know

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Speaker 4: what I mean, Like you get five minutes between segments,

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Speaker 4: I can't have wings sauce. I'm you know, wolf didn't care,

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Speaker 4: but I did, you know, like over the head I

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Speaker 3: Right, I promise you'll get into tom a second. This

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Speaker 2: There was a one of those Wednesdays at the clubhouse

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Speaker 2: where like you guys would get wings and ribs I mean,

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Speaker 2: I wish people could see it. It was. Yeah, our

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Speaker 2: sales guys would be like, why are we racking up

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Speaker 2: a two hundred and fifty dollars tab at the clubhouse?

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Speaker 4: Everyone it deserts to go. That was I was joked

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Speaker 4: with Wolf that I bet his never got past the

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Speaker 4: first red light. Whatever dessert he took home several.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt and Wolf would each take home like three

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Speaker 2: pieces of cheesecake, a pumpkin pie, a peanut butter pie.

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Speaker 2: It was unbelievable. I don't even remember what story I.

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Speaker 3: Was just about. The oh Wolf at the clubhouse.

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Speaker 2: He's in the middle of like we were just talking

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Speaker 2: about wings and everywhere, sauce everywhere.

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Speaker 4: Like on his on his headset and his microphone and

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Speaker 4: right on me and like yeah.

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Speaker 3: And he's wipe.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: Part of my engineering duties back in those grunt work

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Speaker 2: days is you got to bring tablecloth, you know, like

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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio and Fox Sports Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we say we do it like the combine or yeah, right.

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Speaker 2: The wolf one time is like looking around for napkins,

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Speaker 2: can't find any. It just starts wiping his hands on

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Speaker 2: the tablecloth and we got a break and I'm like wolf,

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Speaker 2: you know, I gotta like fold that thing up and

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Speaker 2: like put it in the.

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Speaker 3: Backpack, and.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I missed that guy. I wonder how often that

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Speaker 4: thing gets washed too, Like sometimes it needs it bad.

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Speaker 3: I think, like before the combine every year, and that's it.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's on a weekly basis.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's on a quarterly basis.

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Speaker 4: Right, And no, we would never know from just watching

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Speaker 4: on camera. But sometimes you're sitting there, remember when I

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Speaker 4: dripped stuff on here last time? It's still here. You

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Speaker 4: know that was from three months ago. I shouldn't probably

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Speaker 4: tell this story, but I'm never in charge of any

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Speaker 4: of that stuff. But we did an owner's meeting and

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Speaker 4: they're like, hey, can you throw this in your bag

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Speaker 4: on the way home, which, like you know.

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Speaker 3: Like we do it the combine, like help the video

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Speaker 4: You try all the time. I mean sometimes it's hard

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Speaker 4: able to carry like all the headsets.

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Speaker 3: Weigh pounds, check your bag and all that stuff.

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Speaker 4: So I take the table thing home and I'm like,

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Speaker 4: I might as well wash it. I mean, I feel

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Speaker 4: like it hasn't been washed.

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Speaker 6: It.

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Speaker 4: I kind of threw it in the corner for a

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Speaker 4: while and knowing I had like a week till I

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Speaker 4: need to bring it back or whatever. A cat used

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Speaker 4: his litter box. Oh no, same what I'm sure we're

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Speaker 4: using now here number one, not number two. I'm like,

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Speaker 4: this thing's wet, like oh no, So I definitely watched

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Speaker 3: It wasn't Larry, so it had to be the cat.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, good stuff, good stories, good memories.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, we got a press conference.

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Speaker 2: We do have a press conference to get to. If

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Speaker 2: Wolf was there, he'd be talking about the food that.

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Speaker 4: They started crushing this uncrustable right now. Oh he liked

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Speaker 4: those too. Oh I forgot. That's another Wolf thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, behind barbecue, I mean donuts. I think that was

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Speaker 2: right at the top, right at the top of his list.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Tomlin weekly press conference. Of course, always a lot of

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Speaker 2: stuff that we kind of want to.

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Speaker 4: This was a beefy one beef longer than usual, and you.

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Speaker 3: Know it really did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as Jerry and I do that little wrap up

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Speaker 2: show and normally our segments are like six or seven

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Speaker 3: Were like three minutes long. Wow earlier today.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Tyler Island said that this was longer than usual.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot to get into and I think that's

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Speaker 2: understandable with the current state of the team, plus a

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Speaker 3: Let's start there, Matt.

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Speaker 2: That's yeah, it's always the most that's I think is

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Speaker 2: the most important stuff. We all know the press conferences,

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Speaker 2: the questions this and that and talking about certain things,

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Speaker 2: but I think the injury updates are always the most

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Speaker 2: pertinent part of me. And here's what Mike Tomlin had

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Speaker 2: to say about the team's health. Some individual statuses, of course,

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Speaker 7: From an injury perspective, I'll cover a few things. Derek

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Speaker 7: Harmon can be characterized as out again this week with

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Speaker 7: his knee injury. Everyone else it could be characterized as questionable.

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Speaker 7: And when I characterize people as questionable, often it means

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Speaker 7: limited participation at the early part of the week and

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Speaker 7: then each increased into participation as week goes on, and

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Speaker 7: the quality and quantity of that participation being our guide

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Speaker 7: toward availability. The guys that fall into that category, Patrick

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Speaker 7: Queen with his glute injury and some other guys with

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Speaker 7: some bumps and bruises associated with play. James Pierre is

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Speaker 7: in the concussion Protocol, and I never really try to

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Speaker 7: provide too much color regarding that. The medical experts make

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Speaker 7: that determination. But he's in the protocol and could be

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Speaker 7: listed as questionable as we sit here today, and I'd

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Speaker 7: imagine we got some other guys their lack of availability

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Speaker 7: associated with bumps and bruises associated with play this time

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Speaker 7: of year. That could be limited at the top part

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Speaker 7: of the week, but we expect those guys to pick

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Speaker 7: up as the week goes on, and you can characterize

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Speaker 7: Aaron Rodgers within that group as well.

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Speaker 3: So there you go.

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Speaker 2: As well, did you guys hear that he just said?

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Speaker 2: As I didn't say as well too? I get some

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Speaker 2: grammar lessons from coach.

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Speaker 4: That was a lot better than I expected.

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Speaker 3: Yes, except for the Derek Harmon news.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess now I will.

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Speaker 2: Still leave him out very early again to be ruled

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Speaker 2: out of the process. I will say though, if they

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Speaker 2: if this was a bigger deal, I think he would

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Speaker 2: have been placed on IR already.

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Speaker 4: That's my thoughts too, So I do have I thought, well,

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Speaker 4: was that could be three games? Then it won't before

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Speaker 4: probably or they would have done ir. I would think

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Speaker 4: it seems like there's a good this way. If you

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Speaker 4: ruled out now, maybe that third game is also in play.

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Speaker 2: And I think we saw firsthand how important Derek Harmon

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Speaker 2: was to that defensive front Sunday against Buffalo.

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Speaker 4: Unfortunately, he was too important in a way, you know,

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Speaker 4: And he's not the only reason that the run defense

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Speaker 4: was as bad as it was, clearly, but they were

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Speaker 4: running where he lines up most of the time, you know,

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Speaker 2: Know, eighteen year anniversary that yesterday is the way made

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Speaker 2: Yes, uh he Mike Tomlin stopped short of ruling Broderick

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Speaker 4: I think he earned that again. I don't expecting be

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Speaker 3: Yeah, forty two years.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Rogers, how about it?

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Speaker 3: What did you do for your forty second birthday? Do

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Speaker 2: I'll be thirty five in February here, so gotcha about

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Speaker 2: seven seven years in change behind old Aaron Rodgers celebrate

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: In terms of it, right, he could have been a Brownie.

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Speaker 2: He could have been brown old Aaron Rodgers holding side

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Speaker 2: Speaking of Aaron Rodgers, Mike Tomlin said that he came

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Speaker 3: Boy did he Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh said there's a chance that he could be able

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Speaker 4: Especially with Rogers playfakes, and.

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Speaker 3: It's easier to see easier to see.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and your angle as an off ball linebacker is

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Speaker 2: you want to do a little Tuesday rewind when we return.

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Speaker 2: Before we before we talked to a dam Ski. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: rewatched the game last night last night. It was a

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Speaker 3: Yes, because I'm a psycho. Because I need it.

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Speaker 3: And I had month night Football on the TV. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Baby, That's the stuff of dreams right there, That's what

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Speaker 2: my Steelers rewind Steelers Rewatch, and I've got a couple

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Speaker 2: All right, Matt, before we can flush it and just

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Speaker 2: always or only maybe is the word I'm looking for there.

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Speaker 2: Look ahead to the Baltimore Ravens. We got to do

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Speaker 3: And again I don't think we need to go.

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Speaker 2: We did plenty of that yesterday, kind of dissecting and

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Speaker 4: And I've said a couple of times and I'm not

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Speaker 4: There's not much expert analysis needed this eve what happened

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Speaker 2: No, right, there's really not. And you know with that,

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Speaker 3: Where is Pat Fryermouth?

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Speaker 4: I know he ran nine routes, nine routes.

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Speaker 3: That's it, really, that's it.

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Speaker 4: He was third amongst tight ends. Now, they didn't a

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Speaker 4: So I guess we didn't talk about this, but that

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Speaker 4: Austin's flashed. But I mean, like, who do I want

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Speaker 4: One is nine routes run by friar Mouth. It's not enough.

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Speaker 4: I mean in Seattle, he would like lead the league

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Speaker 4: That doesn't mean it's better or worse, but it would

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Speaker 3: That's where I'm at.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think, hey, you could debate who's the

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Speaker 4: At least we're in the common, we're in the neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: But I think that there is it just you watch

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, is where are we hanging our hat? Hero?

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Speaker 2: forty some plays, it you've like you've got only got

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Speaker 2: so many miles to feed or you only have you know.

442
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Speaker 3: So many opportunities.

443
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Speaker 4: I mean I get that.

444
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Speaker 2: It's like you're trying to do a Thanksgiving dinner but

445
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,720
Speaker 2: you've got half the ingredients that you need to feed everybody.

446
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Speaker 4: I mean, it's almost become a joke on Mondays to me,

447
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Speaker 4: is you get so many questions why didn't Warren get

448
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Speaker 4: more carries? Why didn't Washington get more attempts? Like they

449
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Speaker 4: run the fewest plays in the league thirty right, right,

450
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Speaker 4: I mean, how many more touches could you get in

451
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Speaker 4: thirty one more plays?

452
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Speaker 3: When Imoth and Warren and gain well and deep.

453
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Speaker 4: Lasting time possession and you're not running any plays, it's

454
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Speaker 4: hard to say, well, we gotta get to all this

455
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Speaker 4: guy more, We got to borrow that guy more. But

456
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Speaker 4: I am one thousand percent with you on Friar move.

457
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Speaker 4: I think you know what you have there, and he's

458
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Speaker 4: a good player.

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Speaker 2: And maybe part of that too is again we've combed over,

460
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Speaker 2: we've dissected, we've gone into the weeds of every element

461
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Speaker 2: of this offense. And that's maybe just I think the

462
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Speaker 2: one thing that's was just kind of like where's pat

463
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Speaker 2: firemof man? You know, like Yeah, gave a lot of time,

464
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Speaker 2: gave an extension two years ago. Like, we spent so

465
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Speaker 2: much time talking about how those tight ends were going

466
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Speaker 2: to be the Steelers kind of match up calling card. Yeah,

467
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Speaker 2: it's tough about Baltimore. They got two guys and Lamar

468
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 2: and Derrick Henry that can just run past you and

469
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Speaker 2: run through you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's hard about Cincinnati, Well, they've got Joe Burrow, Jamar,

472
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Speaker 2: Chase t.

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Speaker 3: Higgins. You know, like we thought.

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Speaker 4: The identity stuff, like you mentioned, we.

475
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Speaker 2: Thought that those trio of tight ends for the Steelers

476
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Speaker 2: was gonna be their matchup nightmare, their calling card, their identity,

477
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Speaker 2: and instead it's it's been.

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Speaker 7: Here and there.

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Speaker 3: But for the most part, it's been underwhelming.

480
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Speaker 4: It hasn't been Boy, that's our bread and butter. That's

481
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Speaker 4: what you can count on. Thirteen personnel and you're always

482
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Speaker 4: seeing Friar mooth against the big heavy line that can't

483
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Speaker 4: run with them, or Washington mossing a small safety, all

484
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Speaker 4: this matchup stuff that you envisioned in camp. Underwhelming.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, underwhelming, that's the word I keep coming back to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you mentioned identity there, Matt, you use

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Speaker 2: that identity word, that's something like Tomlin was asked about

488
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Speaker 2: and talked about today. He said, our identity is that

489
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Speaker 2: we're six and six, and I think there's some truth

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Speaker 2: to that, but I think you can also kind of

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Speaker 2: read through the tea leaves of.

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Speaker 4: Sure, they're not the same thing now as when three

493
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Speaker 4: games in or absolutely in or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely And you know, if the Steelers were six and

495
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Speaker 2: six but running the ball like one of the best

496
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Speaker 2: teams in the league, I bet your coach would have said,

497
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Speaker 2: you know, we can run the football. But like when

498
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Speaker 2: you're six and six and you're looking for answers, that's

499
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Speaker 2: who you are. And kind of piggybacking off of that

500
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Speaker 2: last night the other so, all I wrote down was

501
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Speaker 2: two things in my notes because everything else that I

502
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Speaker 2: wanted to write down we already discussed on Monday.

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Speaker 4: A lot of it's just right on the surface and

504
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Speaker 4: pretty darn obvious.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: So first thing in all Caps was where is Pat

507
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Speaker 2: in All Caps? And the second thing I wrote down

508
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Speaker 2: was after twelve games and thirteen weeks, I think there's

509
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Speaker 2: only one thing I know for sure about this team

510
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Speaker 2: that the defense can take the ball away and they

511
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Speaker 2: have to for this team to have a chance to win.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I mean I think there's enough evidence.

513
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Speaker 2: Like, and I know that that's not technically the answer,

514
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Speaker 2: but like, if you're trying to look for an identity,

515
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Speaker 2: if you're trying to look for a meat and potatoes,

516
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 2: it's right at your defense can take the ball away

517
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Speaker 2: and they have.

518
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Speaker 3: To for you to win.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. And I've actually said that a handful of mondays

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Speaker 4: this season, Like anythink ball away, don't you know?

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's really like an identity? Is

522
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Speaker 2: we you know, we run the ball very well. We

523
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Speaker 2: have the best offensive line, and you know you can't

524
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Speaker 2: run the ball against.

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Speaker 4: Us, Like, no, they're Yeah, like I said, but the

526
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Speaker 4: Ravens when they were humming, you know, you're gonna get

527
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Speaker 4: recard leading the way for Henry and Lamar, Like that's

528
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Speaker 4: no fun.

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Speaker 2: Thirteen weeks into this thing, that's kind of my most

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Speaker 2: prevailing thought. Is all that I know about this team

531
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Speaker 2: right now? Yeah, I mean, I know they got to

532
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Speaker 2: possess the ball more and all that stuff.

533
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Speaker 4: But we know where they need to improve.

534
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Speaker 3: Yes, but you hang your hat on path victory.

535
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Speaker 2: Yeah, is the defense has to take the ball away

536
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Speaker 2: for you to win.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think we all know at this point

538
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Speaker 4: in this season as much as any that when you

539
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Speaker 4: pick games on Friday, you're not gonna have a great

540
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Speaker 4: success rate no matter who's playing who, and especially we

541
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Speaker 4: throw spreads in there, of course. You know, even the Bills,

542
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Speaker 4: I mean they got walloped by the Dolphins. How did

543
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Speaker 4: that happen? You know? I mean there's things like that

544
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Speaker 4: that are recent memory. But I do think one of

545
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Speaker 4: the things you can hang your hat on is just

546
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Speaker 4: a predictive way of looking at things is taking the

547
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Speaker 4: ball away, even more so than giveaways, I mean, even

548
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Speaker 4: more so than turnover differential. It's how many takeaways did

549
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Speaker 4: you have? Slash defensive splash, you know, like the days

550
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Speaker 4: they don't get any splash and interceptions count as splash,

551
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Speaker 4: of course, But if it's a splash list day by

552
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Speaker 4: the defense, I bet they lost.

553
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Speaker 3: They almost can't.

554
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Speaker 4: Win, Yeah, they almost. I mean, like maybe they could

555
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Speaker 4: beat the Browns, you know, but yeah, they're not going

556
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Speaker 4: to be the Chiefs and the Bills and the Ravens.

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Speaker 4: And you know, right right now, they're really good at

558
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Speaker 4: getting splash, Yes they are. Yeah, yeah, and that's by

559
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Speaker 4: design too.

560
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Speaker 2: That's the good part about it. And but they are,

561
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Speaker 2: of course very reliant on it. And I'm like, you know,

562
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Speaker 2: that's the whole like everyone's having that person.

563
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Speaker 4: Would have been uglier without the two turnovers. But we

564
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Speaker 4: just break it down into that was that thirty minutes

565
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Speaker 4: was the game. Yeah, you'd be like they were the

566
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Speaker 4: worst team, but they got splash and maybe and they won.

567
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Speaker 4: You know, they actually did win that thirty minutes, right.

568
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Speaker 2: Imagine if TJ doesn't have that strip sack of Caleb

569
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Speaker 2: Williams in the end zone, sure, and they don't get

570
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Speaker 2: that defensive touchdown. Yeah, yeah, you end up maybe end

571
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Speaker 2: up losing that game by double digits. And so yeah,

572
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Speaker 2: it's a tough way to live, but they're a good.

573
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Speaker 3: Way to live. But they are good at it. But

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Speaker 3: the other part of that too is.

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Speaker 2: Even when they were great at it in the first

576
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Speaker 2: thirty minutes, two big turnovers and two big spots, it

577
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Speaker 2: resulted in seven points for the offense, and man, when

578
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 2: they are when they are not getting those turnovers, it's

579
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Speaker 2: a it's a stark, stark difference between the defense lately,

580
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Speaker 2: especially late.

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Speaker 4: Because the offense is struggling so much. Because there's been

582
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Speaker 4: points in the season where the offense looks great and

583
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Speaker 4: they're doing their own job, you know, moving them all

584
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Speaker 4: down the field, you know, right. But there's a lot

585
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Speaker 4: of whack a mole with this team too, Like just

586
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Speaker 4: when you think you got the run defense fixed, because yeah,

587
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Speaker 4: and then this happens.

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Speaker 3: You know, Like that's a good one. I like that

589
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Speaker 3: whack a mole. Yeah, yeah, I like that better than

590
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Speaker 3: the popcorn analogy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think it's more of a yeah young where it's

593
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Speaker 4: coming from.

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Speaker 3: And it's like, just as you get one solved, here

595
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Speaker 3: coming it's like.

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Speaker 4: Boy, we shut down Taylor and Jacobs and the Bears

597
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Speaker 4: running game, and then another mole pops up over here.

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Speaker 4: Like I thought we had that run defense taking care

599
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Speaker 4: of it. No, you didn't.

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Speaker 2: No, and yeah, and so it's hard to pinpoint, Matt.

601
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Speaker 2: That's like what I keep coming back to. It's it's

602
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Speaker 2: difficult to pinpoint. We're trying to kind of figure it

603
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Speaker 2: out and parse through all this and discuss all this together.

604
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 2: We have got to get to somebody who might help us,

605
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 2: you know, figure all this thing out and start to

606
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Speaker 2: put some some answers to these questions. Of course, Chris

607
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Speaker 2: Danski covers the Steelers for the trib co host of

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Speaker 2: the Steelers Blitz. We'll talk to him when we return

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Speaker 2: on the other side to kind of close down the

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Speaker 2: first hour here on a Tuesday, West Ruler, Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 2: It is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the

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Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: seven home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Back on the Drive here on a Tuesday, and part

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Speaker 2: of our Tuesday programming is of course catching up with

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Speaker 2: our Buddychris Danski covers the Steelers for the trip. Is

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Speaker 2: the co host of the Steelers' Blitz with our buddy

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Speaker 2: Tom Opferman at noon here on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 3: Buzz.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for taking the time, as always plenty that

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Speaker 2: we want to discuss with you.

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Speaker 3: Let's jump right into it.

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Speaker 2: First of all, Derek Harmon ruled out already for this

625
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Speaker 2: weekend against Buffalo, now against Buffalo, pardon me, that was

626
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 2: last weekend against Baltimore. We saw, you know him and

627
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Speaker 2: Roderick Jones get ruled out early in the week last week.

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Speaker 2: Broderck Jones placed on IR. Derek Harmon not so. Matt

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Speaker 2: and I were kind of discussing this but is it

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Speaker 2: safer to assume with Harmon that it's not going to

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Speaker 2: be a longer term thing since they put him on IR.

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Speaker 2: But how do you kind of balance that with him

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Speaker 2: already being ruled out for Sunday here on a Tuesday.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he was, let's see, he never he wasn't on

635
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 5: IR to start the season, and he missed the first

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Speaker 5: two games and then then he came back. So not

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Speaker 5: not not that that means necessarily anything for this injury,

638
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Speaker 5: but they've been pretty good. I can't think of many

639
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 5: examples over time where the Steelers made a mistake and

640
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 5: kept a guy you know, off IR, kept him active

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Speaker 5: whenever they could have had the four weeks with him

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Speaker 5: or whatever. And I don't think they're anywhere near getting

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Speaker 5: it to the eight limit for for designate to return

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Speaker 5: this season and hour in week fourteen, So that's not

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Speaker 5: a worry at all. So if there was any reason

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Speaker 5: to believe that he wouldn't be back in four weeks now,

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Speaker 5: I guess you're also But he last week would have

648
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Speaker 5: been what six games left in the season, so you

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Speaker 5: would have kind of pained yourself in our corner there

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Speaker 5: for only two games, So look at that but the

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Speaker 5: fact that he I would have thought, maybe you get

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Speaker 5: the old sometimes pum will we even say, well character

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Speaker 5: driving in a doubtful but we'll get a little laid

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Speaker 5: on for him, that kind of thing. And too the

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Speaker 5: fact that he opened up his entire the segment of

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Speaker 5: the of the press or with the injury situation, but

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Speaker 5: by saying Harmon would be out this week leads me

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Speaker 5: to believe that that maybe that's next week, maybe the

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Speaker 5: first time we get that eve and then you're at

660
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Speaker 5: you doubt well for next week between probably not, which

661
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 5: means then you're at the fourth game and maybe that's it.

662
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 5: So I guess by talking through that maybe expecting to

663
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 5: miss these next two and then come back, and even

664
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 5: then that means you were WHI is not to put

665
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 5: them an ir because you would have missed four games

666
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 5: if that happened, and I think we saw it pretty uh.

667
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 5: I don't want to overstate his importance or says he

668
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 5: would have fixed everything or maybe an entirely different situation.

669
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 5: But I also don't think it's a total coincidence that

670
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 5: the run defense is probably as bad as it's been

671
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 5: all season the first two games in this past game

672
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 5: and those the three games there Carmen missed, right, I

673
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 5: mean there's some correlation, then there has to be some correlation, right.

674
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 4: And most of the runs went in the area of

675
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 4: the field where he lines up in this Baltimore game,

676
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 4: right right. So I mean, I don't know if they

677
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 4: win or shut down the run with him, but I

678
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 4: have a feeling it would have been better.

679
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I said. I said, I don't know

680
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 5: what's that I've been saying that. I don't know what

681
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 5: the odds are for because he it's been a pretty

682
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 5: bad year for like generally speaking, depth rookie classes to

683
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 5: be like Defensive Player of the Year, Rookie Defensive Player

684
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 5: of the Year or things like that. I mean, I

685
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 5: think albdu Carter is still like the fourth pick and

686
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 5: once you have like one sack, like nobody's really doing

687
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 5: anything in the rookie class. So Harmon's still on that list, right,

688
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 5: if you go to your favorite app, he'll still be

689
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 5: on there, even though it's like, I don't know what

690
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 5: he You know, again, I think he's been good, but

691
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 5: I don't, you know, it's not been a splash playing

692
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 5: machine to win an award like that. So I so

693
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 5: whatever case you're gonna make with Derek Carmon, but put

694
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 5: in the tape of the Steelers against the Bills and

695
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 5: say this is what happened, was not there, right? I

696
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 5: mean Derek Carmon for m v P after that, maybe

697
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 5: after after seeing that that happened the way that way,

698
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 5: what you know said he gave fifty year rushing record

699
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 5: against the Steelers. So yeah, I mean that's I mean,

700
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 5: if you're to go bigger picture on it, I think

701
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 5: that the Steelers final We've said for years and years

702
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 5: they need to start. It feels like forever right to

703
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 5: get younger on the defensive line and came Habrook, he's playing.

704
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 5: But I think you finally got a for sure. I

705
00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 5: mean Benton's you know, down play everybody else, but harm

706
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 5: is definitely a piece I think you got going forward

707
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 5: here for you know, hopefully up a decade or something.

708
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think it's pretty clear he's important

709
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 4: at a minimum, you know, if not impactful. Some of

710
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 4: the other injury news is James Pierre's in the concussion

711
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 4: protocol and nowadays that usually means you missed the next

712
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 4: week and if we just operate under that assumption, Buzz

713
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 4: how do you think the cornerback pecking order minus Pierre

714
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 4: sets up.

715
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 5: Now, yeah, that's something. I wonder what they do with slave,

716
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 5: because you would think, especially if Pierre isn't gonna player,

717
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 5: doesn't look like you're gonna play, I think you've even

718
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 5: more reason to protect yourself by getting Samuel up on

719
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 5: the fifty three. And I wouldn't be shocking if that

720
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 5: happens almost any minute. Now, let's say if that, you

721
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 5: know a lot of times on Tuesday they'll do that. Yeah,

722
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 5: and the problem is, of course who you take off.

723
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 5: And I think that might be a Scotti miller maybe,

724
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 5: but either way that that part's a relevance. I think

725
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 5: you got to first thought, that's gonna be your first movie.

726
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 5: Make sure somebody doesn't come in poach. It's not they

727
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 5: same or not that he was, you know, all world

728
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 5: or whatever. But I think he showed he was healthy

729
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 5: and he could play, and he's a track record. He's

730
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 5: a starting corner in this league. So I would think

731
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 5: just by watching him on Sunday, they didn't show any

732
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 5: reason why he couldn't play. Now, maybe he still don't

733
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,959
Speaker 5: put him out there for seventy snaps or whatever. It

734
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 5: is and seems like every Steelers game by seventy or

735
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 5: eighty defensive snaps anymore. But you know, he he'll definitely

736
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 5: be part of that. And so then it becomes the

737
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 5: question is what do you do with Sleigh? How much

738
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 5: do you play slay? Is? Is there is there something

739
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 5: there that we're not I mean a sleigh okay with

740
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 5: being a part time player? Is that why he was

741
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 5: I guess you know, the special team is in aspect

742
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 5: of that why he didn't get a hat, I'm sure,

743
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 5: But where is his kind of headspace at in terms

744
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 5: of contributing and if he is back, does he does

745
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 5: he have to be the quote unquote starter again and

746
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 5: things like that. But because really aside from that, I mean,

747
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 5: unless you you know, you know, brought Ramsey back back

748
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 5: to the corner room, which I still think you're pretty.

749
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 4: They want to do that.

750
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, exactly, I don't think that's gonna happen. So

751
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 5: really I'm gonna say, don't have any other choice. But

752
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 5: I don't think they're going to go to you know,

753
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 5: with Daryl Porter Junior anything like that off the practice squad. Right,

754
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 5: So it's it's probably I imagine it'll be at this point, right,

755
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,439
Speaker 5: Samuel would would probably start, and you know, maybe slag

756
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 5: it's maybe rotates in some things like that.

757
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 4: I assume so too, And I'm kind of looking at

758
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 4: that as an as a glass half full version of

759
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 4: maybe he just never gives up the starting job and

760
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 4: he's you know, even eliminates a need for future years.

761
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think that's crazy to hope for. Yeah,

762
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 4: I don't.

763
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 5: I think that that's that's that's the ideal situation. Yes,

764
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 5: it's plausible, yes, and that's the ideal. I mean, it

765
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 5: was a lower we talked about it when he was

766
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 5: when he was signed. Initially it was low risk, right,

767
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 5: You're not really paying much and he's a practice squad

768
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 5: and it doesn't work out and you move on. But

769
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 5: then the high reward. I mean some of these and

770
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 5: they're totally different situations, of course, and totally different. But

771
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 5: I mean William Jackson they brought in similarly late one

772
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 5: season and uh on a you know, since they give

773
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 5: up nothing for him and didn't have to, you know,

774
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 5: they had to pay him the rest that season, but

775
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 5: then no future commitment. They found out he wasn't the

776
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 5: answer going forward, and they moved on that was it.

777
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 5: So he isn't so in some ways, And obviously, of

778
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 5: course you're fighting for a playoff spot here. This isn't

779
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 5: time for tryouts and auditions and things with that nature.

780
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 5: I'm not saying saying that. But at the same time,

781
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 5: whenever you're you're down, you know at least one corner

782
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 5: if it looks like and you need to play, and

783
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 5: it would be, it would be in some way. It's

784
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:35,919
Speaker 5: a blessing to see how good he is and where

785
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 5: he's at. And you have a lot of other priorities, not

786
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 5: to look forward to the draft already, but a lot

787
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 5: of other areas you'd probably like to address rather than

788
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 5: have no worry about corner. Realighing the draft and uh,

789
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 5: you got you have a decision to make. This coming

790
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 5: spring on Joey Porter about an extension at least it's

791
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 5: coming somewhere about a new Porter or an extension for

792
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 5: Joey Porter. But it's a whole nother discussion. But yeah,

793
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 5: I think again, he has a track record. There's no

794
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 5: no reason to believe that I'm assuming gets back to health.

795
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 5: Did he He's not a I mean, he's been a

796
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 5: starting corner in this league and been a you know,

797
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 5: above average one. They're not an all pro, but it's

798
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 5: certainly a starting Collarbrook corner in the Steelers. That would

799
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 5: be nice to kind of shore that up head in

800
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 5: the next season.

801
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 2: You maybe just a different body, different voice, somebody new

802
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 2: into the mix to kind of uh change the mojo

803
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 2: a little bit sometimes. I think there's something to be

804
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 2: said for that for a locker room as well. It's

805
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 2: Chris Adamski with us here on the drive Buzz question

806
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 2: for you are you a guns and are you a

807
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 2: Guns and Roses fan?

808
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 5: I am a Guns and Roses fan? Yes, I tell

809
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 5: a great him in Hindesfield once. It's a great show.

810
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 2: All right, well all three have all three of us

811
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 2: have that in common then, so you know Axel Rose

812
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 2: once saying where do we go?

813
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 3: Whare do we go? Now? Land we go? Uh? Axel

814
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 3: Roses ask, thank you?

815
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 7: It's right?

816
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 3: I mean long.

817
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 2: Uh buzz, Where where do Axel Rose?

818
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 3: This offense? For me? Okay? Where do like?

819
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 2: Because they've got to find something to hang their hat on,

820
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 2: like it can't just be you know, pin the tail

821
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 2: on the donkey, blindfolded, trying to get something to work.

822
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 3: We've talked so much about the run game.

823
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 2: We've talked so much about DK Metcalf, We've talked so

824
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 2: much about the quarterback forty two years old today, Happy birthday,

825
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers.

826
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 3: And we've talked so much about the tight.

827
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 2: End trio that we thought was going to have a

828
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 2: bigger impact this season. Where do you go if your

829
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 2: Axel Rose slash Arthur Smith slash Mike Tomlin all combined

830
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 2: into one person, where does it start for this offense

831
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 2: to find some level footing, to find some momentum to

832
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 2: get things moving in the right direction.

833
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 5: I wire so smart enough? Did they come up with

834
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 5: some GNR lyrics on on.

835
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 2: The you don't need civil war here we have here.

836
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 4: The second.

837
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 6: So in the take us down to Paradise? Okay, yeah,

838
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 6: there we go. Yeah, It's like, okay, whatever, go WITHK.

839
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 6: Whatever you want to say about DK, men, we could

840
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 6: you can devote another time to that or talking about obviously,

841
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,760
Speaker 6: you know I've for for weeks I was saying, okay,

842
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 6: unlocked DK, he's your alpha, he's your big playmaker with

843
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 6: the track record. But we're on what five or six

844
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 6: weeks now without a splash out of him? Right then

845
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 6: we touchdown or two you know, the rushing things like that.

846
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 6: But but whatever, whether it's still all the attention from

847
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 6: the opponent, whether it's whatever it is, it just ain't happening, right.

848
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 6: I can't beat my head against the wall and say

849
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 6: somehow unlocked DK Metcalf because it's not happening. So I

850
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 6: don't say that ship sailed. Maybe next year things are different.

851
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 6: But I just think to say that would be hollow

852
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 6: because I've been saying that, and I'm sure they've tried that.

853
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 6: I'm sure that's what they want to do and it

854
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 6: ain't working for whatever reason. Okay, so you're gonna x

855
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 6: that one out, so then you go, I mean the

856
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 6: Running game, I've been saying that, like you know the game, well, Warren, however,

857
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 6: you just they're kind of just like a two hidden

858
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 6: person right now. Right, it's just like, I don't even know

859
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 6: how to we're gonna talk about the running game. Just

860
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 6: they both what they do has been the most consistent

861
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 6: part of the offense. So you have that at least,

862
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,919
Speaker 6: and you know, there's been times, of course we said

863
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 6: they should be using that more. We think they should.

864
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 6: You know, there was more there that could be unlocked,

865
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,479
Speaker 6: and I guess that's part of it too. The same

866
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 6: thing almost with John new Smith is DK where it's like,

867
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,439
Speaker 6: again I could say, but that hasn't been there. That's

868
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 6: even longer than me. He's k for that first month

869
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 6: or so. I thought there was a little bit and

870
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 6: you know there's some you know, the eighty yard touchdown

871
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 6: of course in Dublin. There was some other plays you

872
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 6: know downfield or him just breaking tackles, things like that.

873
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 6: I guess part of his DK maybe do more of that,

874
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 6: just give And they've been trying that though they've he'd

875
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 6: gotten a lot of a lot of catches, but he's

876
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,919
Speaker 6: getting three or four catches the game and hadn't broke

877
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 6: one deep yet and it broke one, you know, broke

878
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 6: one for a big play yet and you know, again

879
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 6: you can't expect that every play. But anyway, so yeah,

880
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 6: I'm going on the list here of all position players

881
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 6: we can do right, and we're running out of people,

882
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 6: so I know. I fank Tom today talked about Pat

883
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 6: friar Muth. I was asked about Fratt friar.

884
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 5: Muth and he had really kind of gave the same

885
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 5: answer he does all the time. And I don't know

886
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,439
Speaker 5: how much. I think Pat. I don't know if Pat

887
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 5: would is ay, you know, completely move the needle type

888
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 5: if you unlock him to be like, totally make this

889
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 5: offense dynamic. But I think he's part of the solution,

890
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 5: maybe the in terms of possessions and things like that,

891
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 5: keeping possessions moving.

892
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 4: Maybe you do.

893
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 5: See more of him at some point here, maybe in

894
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 5: Lua John the Smith, which again John has been playing

895
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 5: more than Pat here this past month and hasn't really

896
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 5: produced anything there. But yeah, the short answer is, I

897
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 5: don't know. Is there a guns and Roses lyric like

898
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 5: I wish I knew or you know, something like that,

899
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 5: But that's that. But you know, you go through and

900
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 5: I'm trying to I wish I had a more intelligent

901
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 5: answer for you, but yeah, I don't know.

902
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 4: What it is.

903
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 5: But anything is that they haven't been you know, this

904
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 5: this last week, not with standing, there's still been decent

905
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 5: point production out of this offense throughout the season and

906
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 5: they're still in the middle of the pack point wise.

907
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 5: And then you know, and the defense hasn't scored that

908
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,919
Speaker 5: many points. They have a couple of touchdowns and put

909
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 5: them a couple of short fields. I guess at certain points.

910
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 5: But they've been they haven't been terrible all season, right,

911
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 5: they've been okay, they you know, probably a little below average.

912
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 5: But at the same time, now the era is polling

913
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 5: the wrong direction. And whether it's because of your compromise,

914
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 5: injured quarterback or not, or whatever it is that that's

915
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 5: that's part of it too. And I do wonder how

916
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 5: much the running game that's affected by not being able

917
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 5: to be under center at any point. That's the play

918
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 5: action game and things like that too. So that's a

919
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 5: whole other problem that some of the things you have

920
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 5: done well are probably adversely affected by the fact that

921
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 5: your quarterback has to take snaps from a you know,

922
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 5: shockmun and a pistol.

923
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 2: Well, hopefully they've navigated the November rain and all we

924
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 2: need is just a little patience and don't cry, don't cry,

925
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 2: don't cry.

926
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 5: I applaud I applought all.

927
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: These UH buzz great stuff is always man, Thanks for

928
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 2: having some fun with us and UH and lending some

929
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 2: some boots on the ground perspective. Keep up the good

930
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 2: work with our buddy Tommy Radio on the Blitz and

931
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 2: we will talk.

932
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 3: To you soon.

933
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:15,959
Speaker 4: Don't be a strange buzz.

934
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 5: Yeah ye see I should at least called up a

935
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 5: list here so I could a rapid reply text. If

936
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 5: I'll hit you up with some I'll be ready with some,

937
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 5: with some some good stuff.

938
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Speaker 3: Take care of a partner. There he is, I'm sorry

939
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 3: I had to.

940
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, you know, too much fun.

941
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 3: Where do we go? Yeah, it's a lot of questions.

942
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of unanswerable ones.

943
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 2: Not unanswerable ones, which is, hey, not where you want

944
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: to be in December, there's no doubt about that. But man,

945
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 2: like every time Matt that I'm ready to pull the plug,

946
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, it is such a week to week.

947
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 4: League'll rebound and beat baled them handily and be in

948
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 4: first place, and you.

949
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 2: Know, exactly right, and everyone will be like, all right, hey,

950
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 2: here we go, got to host a playoff game. It

951
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 2: just I listen, I'm not sitting here and thinking that

952
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 2: the Steelers are gonna play football deep into January or

953
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 2: February at this point.

954
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 4: Not the way they're playing. I mean, that's that's pretty clear.

955
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: But at the same time, they still have everything right

956
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: in front of them, despite you know, some some warranted pessimism.

957
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agreed. I think that's probably the

958
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 4: they still control their fate.

959
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, yeah, I'm glad you didn't say control

960
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 3: your destiny.

961
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 4: There never would because you can't.

962
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 3: Don't say that around Mike Pursuit.

963
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 4: I know, I know.

964
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 2: It's like the two things you can't say around PURSUITA

965
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 2: or anything nice about the University of Michigan. And you

966
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 2: control your own destiny because they'll go Dusty can't be controlled.

967
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 2: It's a fate hour in the books, another hour to

968
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 2: go here. In our number two, Matt, we want to

969
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 2: talk a little fantasy football. We'll do some power rankings,

970
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 2: all that good stuff that we typically do in hour

971
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,720
Speaker 2: number two on a Tuesday. On the other side, Ewler

972
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 2: Williamson The Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers

973
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Speaker 2: Audio Network