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Speaker 1: This is the Huddle every Thursday from noon to two,

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Speaker 1: presented by the Fruit four. The Welcome into the Huddle

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Speaker 1: with Dave Wiman, Jay Keats and Stacy Rosie and you

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Speaker 1: guys ready for a Monday night game against the Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: Eagles Seattle Seahawks. Dave and Jake coming off a nice

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Speaker 1: little win against the Arizona Cardinals, helping them in the

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Speaker 1: NFC West, and not only that, helping kind of improve

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Speaker 1: your confidence about this defense. Dave, that was by far

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Speaker 1: the best performance I've seen from this defense. What did

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Speaker 1: you see specifically where you felt like they either corrected

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Speaker 1: should ask. I just did a little football one on

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Speaker 1: one thing downstairs, talking about attacking the perimeter and attacking

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Speaker 1: blockers and those kinds of little things. I think that's

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Speaker 1: what makes it sustainable. And last week when Jake, I'm

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Speaker 1: sure he still is on fire, but last week when

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Speaker 1: Jake was particularly on fire, he pointed out that, you know,

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Speaker 1: the San France game, and I think that's what people

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Speaker 1: you know, and it was the rams after that, I guess.

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Speaker 1: But in the second half of the rams they started

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Speaker 1: to repair. They only give up one hundred and fifteen

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Speaker 1: yards I think in the second half, and just six points.

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Speaker 1: And the reason why is because I felt like they

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Speaker 1: so there's just these little things that are happening now.

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Speaker 1: And you know, we heard the whole thing about the

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Speaker 1: meeting with the accountability, which at first I was like,

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Speaker 1: what took so long? But you know, yeah, but I mean,

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Speaker 1: but there's lots of guys coming together, and you know,

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Speaker 1: sometimes you coach a certain way and then you figure out,

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Speaker 1: how did these guys learn, you know how, what's the

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Speaker 1: best way to do it? And so I'm hoping this

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Speaker 1: is something that if it's not much of a revelation,

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Speaker 1: I think that they can do it again. That's what

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Speaker 1: makes me think that. The other thing is, you know,

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Speaker 1: as far as health, Shaquille coming back, and guys just

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Speaker 1: stringing starts together, Like Jamal Adams had what two and

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Speaker 1: three quarters games, then he missed like six weeks and

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Speaker 1: now he's back. This is like his third or fourth week,

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Speaker 1: So those kinds of things. But look, you know, I

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Speaker 1: think it's fair if you're a Seahawk fan to go, Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: I need to see it again from the defense, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's how I feel. I feel like I was encouraged

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Speaker 1: by what I saw and that it was a fun

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Speaker 1: game to watch, and for the first time all season,

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Speaker 1: it felt like your defense was part of the reason

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Speaker 1: you won. And it wasn't a balanced game against a

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Speaker 1: It was a balanced game against a strong opponent against

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Speaker 1: currently a wild card playoff team. But I need to

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Speaker 1: see more. I agree with you. It's and that's not

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Speaker 1: to slight this team. It's just to say you've had

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Speaker 1: You've had nine plus weeks of struggling play, and then

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Speaker 1: you've had a game against the Arizona Cardinals and i'll

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Speaker 1: throw in the second half against the Rams where you

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Speaker 1: played pretty well, and I need to see more of it.

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Speaker 1: I will say one thing encouraging about it looking at

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Speaker 1: some of these stats, and this is for both you

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Speaker 1: and Jake. Jake, I'll let you go first here. I

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Speaker 1: think it was most encouraging to see some of the

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Speaker 1: guys that were involved, DJ Reid, I was worried about

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Speaker 1: what this secondary would look like. He finishes the game

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Speaker 1: with eleven tackles, had a pass defense. Really nice game

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Speaker 1: for him. That pass defense, by the way. One of

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Speaker 1: kJ Wright blown up screens left and right containing Russell

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Speaker 1: by him. Who impressed you most on defense, Jake m

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Speaker 1: It's really hard because there are a couple really stand

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Speaker 1: up performances. You just do it. Miss my mind. Okay, Dave, geez,

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Speaker 1: if you're saying so, I mean, Stacey, we can go

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Speaker 1: it's just all of them coming together, right, Jake. I mean,

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Speaker 1: And Pete Carroll talked about the need for communication and

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Speaker 1: well the other night. He had a bad miss tackle

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Speaker 1: by Bickford Ford Dave Wyman, Jay keeps across here with

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Speaker 1: you're recapping that win against the Arizona Cardinals before we

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Speaker 1: look ahead to the Eagles. One name we haven't talked

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Speaker 1: about yet, which made the biggest play of the day.

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Speaker 1: It felt like at the very end of regulation with

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Speaker 1: thirty eight seconds left, he had a sack of Kyler Murray,

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Speaker 1: It's Carlos Dunlap. He finished the day with four combined tackles,

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Speaker 1: He can do everything. Yeah, So I mean he's he's

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Speaker 1: that is, it looks like it's starting to work better.

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Speaker 1: You know, they did a really good job of coordinating

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Speaker 1: their pass rush with their pass coverage. All right, we

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Speaker 1: got three Seahawks in danger of missing Monday night and

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Speaker 1: three Seahawks coming back. We'll ask John Boyle about it next.

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Speaker 1: This is the huddle huddle. We sent it by Bitford Ford.

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Speaker 1: If we thurstay from noon to two on seven ESPN Seattle,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back into the huddle with Dave Wyman, j Keats,

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Speaker 1: and Stacy Ross joining us right now. John Boyle of

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Speaker 1: Seahawks dot Com. John, how are you? I am doing well?

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Speaker 1: How about you, guys? I'm good, getting ready for not

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Speaker 1: just Thanksgiving weekend, but also Monday night football game between

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Speaker 1: the Hawks and Eagles. Um for I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: put you on the spot about a conversation Jake and

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Speaker 1: I were having about greenbean cast role and stuffing being

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Speaker 1: incredibly polarizing dishes. That's for a later conversation, but well boy, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Oh it's it's never too early, John. Before we do,

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Speaker 1: I want to take a look at some of the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks that are coming back for Monday Night. We've got

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Speaker 1: Chris Carson, Ethan Postic, and Shaquille Griffin. Correct, that is

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Speaker 1: what we heard from Pete Carroll. You know there's going

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Speaker 1: a quarterback with his experience who's had a decline like this,

426
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Speaker 1: and you just can't find one. So it's it's pretty shocking,

427
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Speaker 1: and six games left to try to figure it out Ruben.

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Speaker 1: Two part question, real quick one. First, are they still

429
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Speaker 1: piping in booze at the stadium there in Philly? And

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Speaker 1: I mean boos, not z. And then I mean he's

431
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Speaker 1: been hit forty times. I mean how much of that

432
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Speaker 1: is getting to him. It's it's more than anybody in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Yeah, it's fast. Forty times I would guess

434
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Speaker 1: probably at least half of them are on him. The

435
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Speaker 1: O line hasn't been great, but you know, he's holding

436
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Speaker 1: onto the ball so long. He's just standing there. He's

437
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Speaker 1: a sitting duck. He just doesn't have any decisiveness. So

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's gotten great protection. But certainly, when

439
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Speaker 1: you look at the number forty seven, I think he's

440
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 1: on pace to be the fourth most stack quarterback in history,

441
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Speaker 1: behind David Carr twice and Randall Cunningham. In his rookie

442
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 1: year when the Eagles gave up one hundred and ten sacks,

443
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Speaker 1: an NFL record that will never be never be approached.

444
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Speaker 1: But it hasn't had a cumulative effect. Maybe, and you know,

445
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Speaker 1: he had a concussion that ended last year. There's a

446
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Speaker 1: lot of speculation about that. Sometimes these things linger and

447
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 1: had had long term effects, even if a guy gets

448
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Speaker 1: cleared through the protocol, Um, you know, he had a

449
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Speaker 1: towards ACL and seventeen had a back injury and eighteen

450
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Speaker 1: that ended the season. So there a lot of injuries,

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Speaker 1: a lot of cumulative things on his body. I think

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Speaker 1: with anything, it's not one thing. I think it's probably

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Speaker 1: the O line. The receivers haven't been great, The running

454
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Speaker 1: game has been up and down. The play calling has

455
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Speaker 1: been pretty shaky from Doug Peterson is usually pretty good

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Speaker 1: at it, and he's just missing guys. So it's really

457
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Speaker 1: been a lot of things and that makes it thing

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Speaker 1: makes it much tougher thing to fix, Ruben. For all

459
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Speaker 1: the dysfunction that has kind of gone on on the

460
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Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball, the defense has played relatively well.

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Speaker 1: I mean they haven't been outstanding, don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 1: but they've played well. I mean they played tough and

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Speaker 1: from what I see on film, you know they're they're

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Speaker 1: a tough out. What has that disconnect been like between

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Speaker 1: the offense and defense side of the ball. Yeah, they've

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Speaker 1: been okay. They haven't faced a lot of good quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: so they faced a lot of backups. I mean two

468
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Speaker 1: of their three wins are against backups, the other ones

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Speaker 1: against Daniel Jones, who ended up beating them a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks later. So yeah, they're sent them in the league.

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Speaker 1: In defense, they're six and past defense. I think they're

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Speaker 1: getting the most out of what they have. They don't

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Speaker 1: have a lot of really good players on defense. Malcolm

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Speaker 1: Jenkins has gone, Fletcher Cots really isn't the same player

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Speaker 1: he used to be, so they're you know, they haven't

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Speaker 1: given up a lot of long drives. A lot of

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Speaker 1: the touchdowns against them have been short fields because all

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Speaker 1: the turnovers that the offense has had um so you know,

479
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Speaker 1: you don't get name call, you don't get finger pointing

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Speaker 1: around here. That's one good thing about Doug Peterson. They

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Speaker 1: they stayed together as a team, so there hasn't been

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Speaker 1: any of that. I think the defense, I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: you'll be asking how well defense is played at around

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Speaker 1: midnight Eastern on Monday night or Tuesday morning, because that's

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Speaker 1: a challenge that's you know, that's something they haven't really

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Speaker 1: faced it when they faced real quarterbacks like Russelsburger and

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. They haven't been a great defense. So we'll

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Speaker 1: see how they do against Russell one of the big

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Speaker 1: questions that's going to be lingering over this team, and

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you've discussed it at length, is whether or

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Speaker 1: not they're going to switch to Jalen Hurts do a

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Speaker 1: quarterback switch. Peterson has been hesitant and you kind of

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Speaker 1: he's made a lot of mistakes, but you feel for

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Speaker 1: the weird spot he's in. Um, do you expect them

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Speaker 1: to make that switch at all this season? I know

496
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Speaker 1: they're tied to Carson money wise. Yeah, it's a great question.

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Speaker 1: Doug is he's a guy that's very loyal to his players.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't bench guys. He doesn't they don't cut guys.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't do that kind of thing. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: how ready Jalen Hurts is without without OTAs and spring camps,

501
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Speaker 1: and he doesn't get reps with the ones because Carson

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Speaker 1: needs all the reps he can get. Right now, He's

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Speaker 1: thrown two passes this year, didn't have a preseason games.

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Speaker 1: I's only looked pretty good in training camp. He throws

505
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Speaker 1: the ball better than I expected. But as far as

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Speaker 1: really understanding that defense is and what they're trying to do,

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Speaker 1: I just don't think he's ready. So my guess is no,

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Speaker 1: I think the one thing you might see is if

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Speaker 1: if there's a game, whether down thirty three to six

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Speaker 1: early in the third quarter, halftime or something, I could

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Speaker 1: see him going to Hurts just to say we needed

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Speaker 1: to get Carson out of there to keep him healthy.

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Speaker 1: Games out of hand, Let's see what the kid can do.

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Speaker 1: But as far as and then go back to Carson

515
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Speaker 1: the next week, but as far as benching him, I

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Speaker 1: think Doug knows that this team's future depends on Carson Wentz,

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Speaker 1: and I think that their approaches. We have to do

518
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Speaker 1: everything we can't to get him right, and and not

519
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Speaker 1: playing him isn't going to help. I think there's value

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Speaker 1: in in letting a quarterback, no matter how experienced or

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Speaker 1: accomplished he is. I'll step back for a week and

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Speaker 1: get a different view and catch his breath and get

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Speaker 1: away from it, and you know, just kind of see

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Speaker 1: the game from a different perspective, and then go back

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Speaker 1: the next week. But it just doesn't look like Doug's

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Speaker 1: on the verge of doing that. It looks like Miles

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Speaker 1: Sanders having a really good game, and I saw Doug

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Speaker 1: Peterson was praising him a little bit. Other than him,

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Speaker 1: he's got what seven hundred yards a total offense. Who

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Speaker 1: are some of the sort of unsung heroes or the

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Speaker 1: people are player that the fans in Philadelphia actually like.

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Speaker 1: That's really funny the asset because we're trying to come

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Speaker 1: up with a list of ten players, my colleague Dave

534
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Speaker 1: and I, of ten players that the fans don't hate

535
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: right now, we got stuck, Like right around seven, we

536
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Speaker 1: started adding the long snapper and punter. Alex Singleton is

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Speaker 1: a young linebacker who played in the CFL for a

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Speaker 1: few years who's been really good. He was on the

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Speaker 1: practice squad and he's been starting because of injuries. He's

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Speaker 1: probably been their best defensive player. Brandon Graham is having

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Speaker 1: probably the best year of his career in year number eleven.

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Speaker 1: Jason Kelsey, He's going to start his hundred straight game

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Speaker 1: at center on Monday Night. Those are some of the guys.

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Speaker 1: Miles Boston Scott, who's the backup running back who's really good.

545
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Speaker 1: Literally's like five to six and he's a really good

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Speaker 1: little back. Had a fifty six yard touchdown a couple

547
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Speaker 1: of weeks ago against the Giants. Those are some of

548
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Speaker 1: the guys. But I'll tell you what, it's a short list.

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Speaker 1: Travis Fogam is a young we see where they got from,

550
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: from the waiver wire from the Packers, who was drafted

551
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Speaker 1: by the Lions last year and never played. He's had

552
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Speaker 1: some really big games. He had one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: yards in one game. It's not in a second career

554
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: game here, so he's been pretty good. But other than that,

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Speaker 1: it's slim pickens. They don't have a lot of guys

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Speaker 1: having good years. Reuben, Where where is this organization right now?

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Speaker 1: Because it's really hard to pick where they're at? Are

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Speaker 1: they Are they going to continue to keep rolling out

559
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Speaker 1: the same group? I mean they're committed to a bunch

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Speaker 1: of older veteran players for a little while. Um Or

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Speaker 1: or do you think that this is kind of the

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Speaker 1: last season where they're going to try and maybe shake

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Speaker 1: things up and kind of start from scratch again. Where

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Speaker 1: do you think the Eagles currently sit as a franchise. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a great question. I think every Super Bowl team

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Speaker 1: kind of grapples with that, like you when do you

567
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Speaker 1: move on from the nucleus that won you a Super Bowl?

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Speaker 1: And I think that's where they are now. A lot

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Speaker 1: of those guys from that twenty seventeen Super Bowl team

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Speaker 1: just are very good anymore. And they're older, obviously, they're

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Speaker 1: you get you could be in your prime at twenty

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Speaker 1: eight and three years later you lost up at thirty one,

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Speaker 1: and and I think, like we said earlier, Dougs just

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Speaker 1: kind of really overly loyal to those guys. And you

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Speaker 1: look at Jason Peters and Alson Jeffrey and DeShawn Jackson

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Speaker 1: and Roddy McLeod, and you know that that whole you know,

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Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox, that whole group, Zach ERTs, they're all in

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Speaker 1: their early thirties. They're all not playing at the level

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Speaker 1: that we're used to seeing, and they all most for

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Speaker 1: the most part, have big contracts, and the organization's really

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Speaker 1: loyal to them. And I think they're at the point

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Speaker 1: where they're going to have to make a decision after

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Speaker 1: the season that we've got to move on from that

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Speaker 1: whole group. And the problem with that is they haven't

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Speaker 1: drafted well enough to replace those guys, So they're going

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Speaker 1: to be really bad until they can get enough good

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Speaker 1: young players in here to replace them. And now it's

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Speaker 1: the same thing the Phillies went through after they won

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Speaker 1: the World Series. They had this whole nucleus with Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Rowlands and Ryan Howard and Shay Sutley, and they just

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Speaker 1: kind of the fans like those guys, and they come

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Speaker 1: out to the games to see them, but they just

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00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: weren't that good anymore. And at some point you just

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Speaker 1: got to move on, get young, and you know, draft

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Speaker 1: well bringing you know, players who might be learning, might

596
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: not be as good as the veterans, but at least

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Speaker 1: have an upside. And I think that's the point they're

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Speaker 1: going to find themselves at when the season mercifully ends

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Speaker 1: in in a couple of months. He is Ruben Frank

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Speaker 1: of NBC Sports Philadelphia. Amazing insight. We loved this interview.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Ruben, though mercifully and coming up with

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Speaker 1: a list of players that I liked it, but honestly

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Speaker 1: it was awesome. All Right, who fills in for Brandon

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Speaker 1: Shell if he can't play Monday night? We'll ask Ray

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Speaker 1: Roberts next. On the Huddle. This is the Huddle presented

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Speaker 1: by Pickford Ford every Thursday from noon to two on

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Speaker 1: seven ten ESPN Seattle. Welcome back to the Huddle with

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Speaker 1: Dave Wyman, Jay Keeps and Stacy Ross joining us right

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Speaker 1: Now we're going in the trenches with former offensive lineman

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Speaker 1: current host of the Seahawks pre and postgame show, Ray Roberts. Ray,

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Speaker 1: how are you? I'm I'm seeming pretty good. What was that?

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Speaker 1: That music? Is that always my intro music? No? But

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Speaker 1: it should always my intro music at all. I love it, man,

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Speaker 1: that's like that deef head Bob And yeah, it's it's

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Speaker 1: a red Bone from Childish Gambino. It's it's a good

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Speaker 1: song for quite a good analyst. So that's great, Turk.

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Speaker 1: Can you give us a review on the band now?

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Speaker 1: And maybe the song is okay? Sorry analyzing our intros. Hey, Ray,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get started right away. I do want to

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Speaker 1: ask about Brandon Shell. Before I do that, though, We've

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Speaker 1: got to talk about Damian Lewis's first ever start at center.

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Speaker 1: Uh did he exceed your expectations? Because I know you

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Speaker 1: were high on well, considering that you know, the dude

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Speaker 1: has never played center before. I played a little bit

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Speaker 1: of center in high school, and uh, you know, had

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Speaker 1: a big linebacker like Days lined up over me one

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00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: time and he blitzed and the fox had snapped the ball.

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Speaker 1: He tackled me and the quarterback and I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's the last time I'm doing that. But but Damian,

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Speaker 1: to me, played really well. They got off to a

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Speaker 1: slow start. But the thing I like about this dude

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Speaker 1: is his comments, you know, about just whatever the coach

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Speaker 1: wants me to do, that's what I'll do. And to me,

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Speaker 1: that is just a football player. And the more football

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Speaker 1: players you can have, I think the better that you'll be.

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Speaker 1: The one thing that I would like throw caution to though,

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00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: is that Pete Carroll got too excited about him having

638
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: the ability to be a good center, and it's like, okay, well,

639
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: let's just pick one spot for him, Pete and leave

640
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: him there. Like, we don't need a dude that can

641
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: bounce back and forth and all over the place. Either

642
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: let him be an all pro center or let him

643
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: be an all pro guard, but don't let him try

644
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: to play both. And sometimes I get the fear that

645
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: the theos like that versatility. And then and then they

646
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: have dudes moving all over the place. And I said before,

647
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: I like lineman that have PhDs in their position and

648
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: not just college degrees. I like that. How about you

649
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: know we're gonna hear about Brandon Shell. We're not sure,

650
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: you know that was pretty pretty nasty injury he had.

651
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: But his play so far, I don't know if you

652
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: talked to him, right. He's a great dude, really, I

653
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: feel like the guys that can really express themselves and everything,

654
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: they can talk about how they do their job and everything,

655
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: and that helps him on the field. But yeah, what

656
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: about his performance? And have you talked to him? Have

657
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: you you've got a chance to catch I haven't had.

658
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: I haven't had a chance to hold to him. I

659
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: wish I could, because I've been really impressed with his play.

660
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: You haven't heard his name called a lot, which is

661
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: a good thing because he's not getting a bunch of

662
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: penalties and blowing the simons and this, that and the

663
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: other thing. And I think the combination of him and

664
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: lewis just watching how they started this season where they're

665
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: having some issues on some of their double teams and

666
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: switching off games and things like that, and as a

667
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: season has gone on, they've gotten more and more efficient

668
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: at it. And like I said before, the thing about

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Speaker 1: Shell that he brings that he may not have like

670
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: this the all power that like Affette he had, but

671
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: he has way more consistency and just you know what

672
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna get. He's not going to get to the

673
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: free snap penalties, he's not gonna get the holding calls.

674
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: He's gonna show up and be the same dude. And

675
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: so I think if he has a chance to just

676
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: keep jelling in that position, that they have a dude

677
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 1: that can be there for a long time. You know.

678
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: I love his athleticism. I love the length that he has.

679
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: I love the way that you know, you can see

680
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: with him and Damian Lewis, they want to be the

681
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: two that the team runs behind. So they they're trying

682
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: to finish blocks. They're trying to finish guys there, we're

683
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: blocking down the field, getting to the second level, all

684
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 1: those different kinds of things. Uh. And so I really

685
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: I really liked that about him. That has impressed me.

686
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: From the film that I watched of him coming before

687
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: he came to Seattle, I wasn't real sure exactly what

688
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 1: they were going to get other than a guy that

689
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: had had some experience. But he's kind of selling up

690
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: and gotten better since he's been here. Ray, I've been

691
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you since since the game last Thursday.

692
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: Is this the game that you were talking about in

693
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: terms of being able to marry the Run in the

694
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: Past together. You know, that's a comment that you have

695
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 1: made with us earlier, and I was curious if this

696
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: game fit that in your mind, that they were more

697
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: in sync together in terms of the Run in the Past,

698
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: the connectivity of it than the naked game, the play

699
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: action game, all of it. Was this the game that

700
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: you that you were kind of envisioning. Absolutely, I mean,

701
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: like the marrying of it. I think the word you

702
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: just use a connectedness of it, uh that is that

703
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: is even a better way than the marrying part of it,

704
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: because everything did feel connected. It felt like one thing

705
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: was setting up the other thing. They didn't feel like

706
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: a bunch of different pieces that were trying to function

707
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: as one. It just the game plan, the execution of

708
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: the game plan, the rhythm of the game plan, the

709
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: connectedness of the game plan felt like one coheed uh

710
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: effort and then on and then to me, I feel

711
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: like when you have that, then in those games where

712
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: you want Russell to be aggressive, you know early in

713
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: the game, when you wanted to pass for four hundred yards, like,

714
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 1: then you have the you have a platform to launch from.

715
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: Before it was there was no platform to launch from

716
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 1: It was just like we're just gonna it felt like,

717
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: you know, we're just gonna, you know, pick these plays,

718
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: you know, as they come, and hopefully something works out

719
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: of it. And with the magic of Russell, he can

720
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,240
Speaker 1: make things work. And now this feels like a system

721
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: that they have. They have and so it doesn't matter

722
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: what the defense brings. If we need to pass for

723
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: fourhundred yards, Russell can pass the fourhundred yards. If you

724
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 1: need to rush for one hundred and twenty, we can

725
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: get one hundred and twenty yards rushing. If you need

726
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: to do both, you can do both. And so, uh,

727
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: this idea around balance and you know, uh, Jake, it's

728
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: not a fifty fifty thing. It's just more of a

729
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: what you just said, it's more of a connectedness thing,

730
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: like how how is all of this stuff connect together?

731
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: And it did. It absolutely felt like that. This past week,

732
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: Hoddle is presented by Bickford Ford. You're here with Dave Wyman,

733
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: Jay Keeps, and Stacy Ross. We're talking to former offensive

734
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: linman Ray Roberts. He's also hosted the Seahawks pre and

735
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: postgame show. Ray, it sounds like Brandon Show could be

736
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,479
Speaker 1: a long shot to make it Monday night. You've talked

737
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: before about how I press you've been with his season.

738
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: Who are we looking at to fill in for him

739
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: if he can't go? Well, I can't say that the

740
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: kid's name A mess it up every time I try

741
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: to say it. A boy here, Oh yeah I do too. Yeah,

742
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 1: that dude. We'll call him that dude, Cedric. But I

743
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 1: just I would just rather someone else say it than

744
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: for me to fumble all over. That's what I do everything.

745
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: But I think I think he's had the I think

746
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: he's had the reps uh to get in there and

747
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: do it. I think he has the athleticism. Uh, you know,

748
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: when he got into the game the other day, he

749
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: had a couple you know, if he plays that, I

750
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 1: think a lot of that was just from sitting around

751
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: and not actually playing out that with, you know, with

752
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 1: real bullish to speak. And so I think if he's

753
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 1: had the reps, you know, is that you know, this

754
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: is an extended kind of a bye week that they've had,

755
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 1: that he's been able to get some reps and get

756
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: in there and play. I think that that would be

757
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: the best, the best person to put in there. He

758
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 1: has the athleticism he has at length, he has some

759
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: plan experience, so it's not gonna be like the game

760
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: is new to him. He just needs he just needs

761
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: to get the reps to get in there and play

762
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: and then hopefully, you know, with this extended layoff, that

763
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,240
Speaker 1: Shell's injury isn't going to be you know, prolonged past

764
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: this because he and Lewis definitely had you know, they

765
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: definitely have something going on, big Ray. What do you

766
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: like about you see from Carlos Hide. I feel like

767
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: if we can just have one or the other and

768
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: then we'll see about Rashad Penny. But but Carlos Hide,

769
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: Chris Carson at sure makes a difference. I mean, I

770
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 1: think the offensive line has been blowing up on some

771
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 1: some big holes. But Hide has been a real surprise

772
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: to me. I guess I thought he was just an

773
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: insurance policy. But he's really a good back. You know,

774
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 1: he is a really good back. And I was excited

775
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: when they got him because the dude has been productive

776
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: everywhere he's been when he's when he's given an opportunity. Uh,

777
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,240
Speaker 1: you know, he's rushed for over a thousand yards before

778
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: and and you know, he's been like the guy before,

779
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: but for whatever reason, people seem to keep finding or

780
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: thinking they have someone better. So he moves off to

781
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: another place. And so I'm excited that that we got him.

782
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: And the one thing, uh that I like about him,

783
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: uh is that his patients running the ball. So there

784
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: used to be like when you're offensive lineman and you're

785
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: you have plays where you pull and you're leading the

786
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: running back up in the hole. Uh, they used to

787
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: always say, be uh quick to the hole, but fast

788
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: through the hole, and so quick and fast they sound similar,

789
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: but they're different. And so to me, Carlos runs that way.

790
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 1: He's quick to the hole, but he's and then he's

791
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: fast through it. So he has enough patience to let

792
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: things develop, uh, to let the lockers get to the

793
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: second level or get that backside filled off, and then

794
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: he's fast through the hole. And so he's a he's

795
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: a put your foot in the ground, you know, one

796
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: cut type of running back. And that works with this

797
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: offensive line because that's how Chris Carson runs. You know,

798
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: he kind of makes one cut and he's and he's

799
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: gone downhill. And then the other part of it two

800
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: day is that uh to me, just getting the offensive

801
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: line the reps of running the ball and getting into

802
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: a rhythm running the ball. I said this on the

803
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: broadcast other day, and you know, maybe I'm you know,

804
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: exaggerating a little bit, but if if the if the

805
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: offensive line is in a rhythm, you can put a

806
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: running back back there who's not a superstar type of

807
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 1: a dude. He doesn't have to and be a Chris

808
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: Carson to get the five yards that they've created for you. Yeah,

809
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: you know, you see that all around the league. There's

810
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 1: there's running backs that you've never heard of that can

811
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: that can get you five yards. Now, the difference is

812
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: when you have a Chris Carson or Carlos hide, then

813
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: they can make they can break that arm tackle, they

814
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: can make that guy miss, and then that five yards

815
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: becomes ten yards or you know, ten yards becomes fifteen,

816
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: fifteen becomes twenty, like that kind of thing. So to me,

817
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: it's just it was a combination of getting Carlos back

818
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: or Chris Carson back, one of those two are both,

819
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: and allowing the offensive line the time to kind of

820
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,919
Speaker 1: get themselves in the rhythm run blocking during the game.

821
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: He is Ray Roberts. You can hear him on the

822
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: Seahawks pre and postgame show and every week on the huddle.

823
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: Thanks Ray and Happy Thanksgiving. Yeah. Can I just make

824
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: one more comment if you don't mind. Yeah. I heard

825
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 1: earlier where Jake asked someone what has Carlos Dunlap's impact

826
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: been on the team. And it's really easy to look

827
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: at well the pass rush and the sacks and the pressures.

828
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: But the one thing that I saw last week, and

829
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: it showed up mostly in the press conference, is his

830
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: pure enjoyment and excitement of playing football. And I think

831
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: that with this defense which so many people having so

832
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: much success and all of a sudden not having success,

833
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: they had lost that part. And now they see that

834
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: in Carlos Dunlap and it impacts them that way, not

835
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 1: just what he brings physically on the shield, but they

836
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: see a dude that goes like, man like, I've never

837
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: been in this situation before, and I have this renewed energy.

838
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: I have like this is new life to me, this

839
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: is you know. And so now you see a guy

840
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: like Bobby going like, man like, I wish that the

841
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: toils were here now so he could experience that. So

842
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: that's a reminder of this is what it was like

843
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: when we're balling out and I think that that has

844
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: an impact on the defense as well. That's a really

845
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 1: really good point. Ray Um. All right, we appreciate you

846
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: joining us seriously. Thanks so much. Good to hear from

847
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: you too. All right, you guys have a great thankgiving

848
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: and trying not to eat all the food. Say some

849
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Speaker 1: leftovers there you go, all right. Trey Flowers joins us next.

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Speaker 1: He's the Thursday from noon to two. Appreciate his life.

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Speaker 1: Frew board the Hollow, Welcome back into the Hoddle with

852
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: Dave Wyman, Jay Keats, and Stacy Ross. We're going to

853
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Speaker 1: be joined in just a moment by cornerback Trey Flowers,

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00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: who managed to hold DeAndre Hopkins, best receiver in the

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00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 1: league no offense to duk Metcalf to just fifty one

856
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: yards against the Arizona Cardinals. And he'll have his work

857
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: cut out for him throughout the rest of the season.

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Speaker 1: But this defense with a nice chance to kind of

859
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: get right get a few takeaways against Carson Wentz and

860
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: the Eagles. Jake Carson Wentz with fourteen interceptions to fourteen touchdowns,

861
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: been hanging onto the ball a little too long, doesn't

862
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: have the offensive weapons that he used to, but also

863
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: just not the quarterback that he used to be. And

864
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 1: I got to go back to you know that original

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Speaker 1: actually joining us right now is Trey Flowers. Tray. First

866
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 1: of all, how are you? How are you good? Thank you?

867
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: So we were just talking about the seahawks defensive performance

868
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: against the Arizona Cardinals. Tray, I've got to be really honest,

869
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: and I felt that saying it about you because both

870
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: you and Shaquille are such nice people in person. You

871
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: really are, but I felt like I had I was

872
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: losing faith in the defense over the course of the year.

873
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,919
Speaker 1: The talent was there, and it felt like the execution wasn't.

874
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: But against DeAndre Hopkins held him to just fifteen one yards,

875
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: it was maybe your best performance of the season. Was

876
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,439
Speaker 1: there a moment you had leading up to that game

877
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: where you had a heart to heart with the defense?

878
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: I know you guys had a meeting. What was that like? Yeah,

879
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: before the game, we had an accountability meeting and it

880
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 1: was really just each position group going over each call

881
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: and what we're relying on from each other, what you

882
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: can count on me doing, And yeah, I think it

883
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: helped out a lot going into the game. Trey, what

884
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: was this like, what was this? What was this week

885
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: like for you personally? You know, Stacy just kind of

886
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: highlighted the matchup that you were going to have of

887
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 1: you know, being charged with covering DeAndre Hopkins for you know,

888
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: most of the game. I obviously weren't sure exactly where

889
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: he was going to line up, if they were going

890
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: to move him around a lot, but you ended up

891
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 1: being one on one with him for the majority of

892
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: the game. It seemed like, what was what was your

893
00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: thought process going into this matchup? I just want I

894
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: just want my team to trust me. Really, that was

895
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 1: really the main thing. I talked to my strength coach

896
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: from college the week of the game and he put

897
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: something on Instagram and it was just something I feel

898
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: like he was speaking to me with. He taught me

899
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: to just step to my assignment with confidence and good

900
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: technique and something. They think it's too big for you

901
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: or whatever, but you're wanta do it for the next

902
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: stage anyway. And I just had that plane in my

903
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: head all week just what I was, what I planned undering,

904
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: what I was gonna do it. It worked out. Now,

905
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Speaker 1: You guys so far this year have been great about takeaways.

906
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: It is one of the areas where you guys have

907
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: been able to excel as a team, those haven't been

908
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 1: as common the last couple of weeks, but that's not

909
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: for a lack of some pretty solid performance against the Cardinals.

910
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,240
Speaker 1: If you have to pick one guy on the defense,

911
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: and you can include yourself, Tray, if you have to

912
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 1: pick one guy on the defense who was primed and

913
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: ready to get this next takeaway, who has just been

914
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,479
Speaker 1: like inching close to one, like he's on the verge

915
00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: of getting one, it's definitely me well overdue for one.

916
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: I had one in the Cowboys game that kind of

917
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: put a hole in my chest. So I'm I'm a

918
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 1: long overdue for an interception or fumble or something. Yeah, well, Trey,

919
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: I'm very excited to see that happen. Potentially one of

920
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: the other things. I think we're all excited. And you

921
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: guys have a unique week this week because of Thanksgiving.

922
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: You guys are actually going to get the day off

923
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: tomorrow to be able to celebrate the holiday. How are

924
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 1: you going to be celebrating Obviously it's going to be

925
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 1: very different and strange, uh compared to normal holidays, But uh,

926
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 1: how are how are you going to be celebrate, so celebrating.

927
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: I just I got my family here, I got my daughter,

928
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: I got my girlfriend. I'm just I'm not cooking. I'll

929
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 1: tell you that I've been watching film and smelling out

930
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: of good food and ready to eat and try to

931
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: teach my daughter with Thanksgiving, it's really all about, Oh,

932
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: what's the what's the best Thanksgiving dish? By the way,

933
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,439
Speaker 1: we've been having a very heated debate all day. Oh

934
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: that's um, that's it's really hard. I would go. My

935
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: grandma makes everything from scratch. She makes an addressing her

936
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: steps and from scratch. So I love that. Thank you.

937
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Speaker 1: That is the best one, correct, Trey. One of the

938
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Speaker 1: other things that I was One of the other things

939
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 1: that I was noticing with your play this last game was,

940
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: you know, you talk about trusting your keys and your assignments,

941
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: and it really seemed that way on the field, Tray

942
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: you you were very aggressive at times, uh, you know,

943
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: not feeling as hard and all those things. Is that

944
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 1: was that an extra emphasis for you or is that

945
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 1: just a level of you know, being confident and being

946
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: confident in what you're seeing. I think it goes into

947
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: being a little bit of both, you know, just being

948
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: confident and being aggressive. That's a type of player. I

949
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: want to be a type of player I am, and yeah,

950
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: just to step into it. Just the main thing for

951
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: me is really just putting it all together. I shall

952
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 1: flashes of myself and good coverage and good tackles, and

953
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 1: I want to just put it all together. I want

954
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: to be the complete player, so I tried to do

955
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: every week. Yeah, Trey, you guys do have some new

956
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: faces this year that we haven't really had a chance

957
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 1: to talk too much, so hoping you can give us

958
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: some insight. I'll start with DJ Reid. He made his

959
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: debut in week eight, and you've probably worked most closely

960
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: with him, between him and some of the other guys'

961
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: what's his past couple of games been like? He looked

962
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 1: really impressive last week too, along with you. Oh, real

963
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 1: great player, real athletic. He studies just as much as

964
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 1: I do. We watched him the last couple of weeks

965
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: together so much, so I knew he was prepared. I

966
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: knew he was ready to go. Now, Trey, what is

967
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: Carlos Dunlap like Because we see him and he seems

968
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: like this kind of you know, goofy personality, but so

969
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: energetic and excited to be a part of the organization.

970
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: What has he been like in the locker room and

971
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: for your team? You see, let you get I'm sure

972
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: he's up right now making jokes for somebody and last

973
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: ending wherever he's at in the building. He's having fun.

974
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 1: And you just try to feed off a guy like

975
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: that event and try to have fun as much as

976
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: you can. Is that kind of a breath of fresh

977
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: air as you guys are kind of struggling as a unit,

978
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 1: and you guys are so hyper focused on what's going

979
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: on right now here in the moment, and you get

980
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: somebody on the outside who brings a different perspective. What

981
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: has that been like for you guys? It's definitely different

982
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 1: for me. I would speak for myself in this point.

983
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: I've never been anywhere else, So hearing his stories when

984
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: he comes in and how much he loves it and

985
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: how much is how different it is and other organizations.

986
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 1: It's it's open it for me, And you know, I

987
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: just I take it with a grain and try to

988
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 1: go on with it and try to have fun with

989
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 1: everybody else. But it's definitely I open it for me,

990
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: all right, Trey, What I loved about Carlos Dunlap is

991
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: that he called ball game before getting that sack of

992
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: Cayler Murray. So, Jake and I will be holding you

993
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 1: to the following. Number one, you're going to be getting

994
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: the next interception, the next pick, the next forced fumble, fumble, recovery,

995
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 1: whatever it is, it's gotta be Trey Flowers. We're holding

996
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: you to that. And number two, tell lets you're getting

997
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: the win over the Eagles Monday night. Definitely all right,

998
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: we're holding you to it. Thanks for joining us, Happy Thanksgiving,

999
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 1: Thank you. All right. We're going to be joined by

1000
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 1: the Voice of the Seahawks, played by play man Steve Rabel.

1001
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: That's next on the huddle. This is the Huddle. It

1002
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: by Bigford Ford every Thursday from noon to two on

1003
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:27,479
Speaker 1: seven ESPN Seattle. Welcome back to the huddle with Dave Iman,

1004
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: j Keeves and Stacy Ross joining us now to get

1005
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: us ready for Monday night's game. Steve Ravel, Voice of

1006
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, Steve, how are you hi? Guys? Good, Happy

1007
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving to all of you except Dave. Happy Thanksgiving, Raves.

1008
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: I would expect no other introduction. This is very on

1009
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 1: brand what I was talking about. I want you each

1010
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: to say one thing you're grateful for with each other.

1011
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: You guys are Uh, Here's what I'm grateful for that

1012
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: this year, I've only had to see half of Rabel's face.

1013
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: See that's nice. That's something to be grateful for. Raps.

1014
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: How about you, I'm just I'm grateful that I get

1015
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: to talk to you guys every week. Love to hear it.

1016
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: All Right, we're looking ahead at this Monday night game,

1017
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: Seahawks defense with a really nice opportunity here to kind

1018
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: of continue that performance from what you saw in the

1019
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. I want to first, before we look ahead

1020
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 1: to that game, go back to that Thursday night win.

1021
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 1: What was maybe the best thing you saw from that game,

1022
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: whether it's the best individual performance, the best step forward,

1023
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: what was the thing that you went to bed that

1024
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: night and thought, I'm so glad we saw that. Well.

1025
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 1: I think one of the things that we talked about

1026
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: the last time we chatted, and that was seeing everybody

1027
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: play their positions and handle their responsibilities and and you know,

1028
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: do their jobs and play together as a unit when

1029
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: you watch them, and they did continue to blitz some,

1030
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: but they you know, I think Kenny Norton Junior. Really

1031
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: they picked their spots. When the blitz they pulled back

1032
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: out of it several times. I think that confused Kyler

1033
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 1: Murray a couple of times. They were able to contain

1034
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: him just everything that they appeared to really want to

1035
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: do defensively. Yeah, okay, they gave up. They gave up

1036
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: a couple of shots, you know, in the middle of

1037
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Speaker 1: the field, which tends to happen sometimes, especially with a

1038
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: team like Arizona that that has such an excellent running

1039
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 1: quarterback and you if you're the middle linebacker or any

1040
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: of those underneath cover guys, you always have to have

1041
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 1: at least one eye on him. But still, I just

1042
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 1: thought they played so much better together and with a

1043
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:39,280
Speaker 1: real urgency. And if we can can see that continue,

1044
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: and if I don't want to take you know, any

1045
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: of your glory here, but if they can have that

1046
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 1: continue through this coming Monday night against the team that

1047
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: is really struggling offensively, it could really set the Seahawks

1048
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: up for a nice stretch run. You know, as we

1049
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 1: were talking about how good has DJ Reid been, I mean,

1050
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 1: it's we've called his name so many times. I think

1051
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 1: he's going to break one this year. But now all

1052
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're getting healthy in the defensive backfield,

1053
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: and when Quentin Dunbar comes back, especially, it's going to

1054
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: be crowded back there. But good problem to have, I

1055
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 1: guess since they started out with a ton of injuries

1056
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: in the defensive backfield, well it really is a good

1057
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: problem to have. It. You can't have too many good cornerbacks,

1058
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Speaker 1: and just like we've always often said, you can't have

1059
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: too many really good pass rush defensive type ends. But

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00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: I think that he's playing really well. In fact, you know,

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00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: Shaq is supposed to be back, Shakil Griffin's supposed to

1062
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: be back this week, so do you put him in

1063
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 1: his place and then continue to have Prey on the

1064
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: other side, who's also picked up his game. So, all

1065
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: of a sudden, now you have when Quintin Dunbar comes back,

1066
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: you'll have four guys with a lot of starting experience

1067
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,720
Speaker 1: back there, at least for this season. And that bodes

1068
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: well as the season rolls on, because you know it's

1069
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: the way things are going. It's impossible to believe you're

1070
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 1: going to get through the rest of this schedule without

1071
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 1: getting another couple of guys hurt. I bite my tongue

1072
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: when I say that, and we hope that, and the

1073
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: Seahawks have done the best job of anybody in the

1074
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: league at not having COVID invade the Vmax. So you know,

1075
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: you hope that everybody gets healthy and stay healthy, but

1076
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: chances are, you know, you're going to lose a guy

1077
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 1: or two to an injury, even if it's just a

1078
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: week or so, So having that experience is really helpful. Rabes.

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00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 1: One of the guys who have who has always been

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00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: kind of an unsung hero of this defense and continues

1081
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: to be is kJ Wright. I mean, here he is

1082
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 1: at age thirty, he's ten years in the league. That

1083
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: it was always a goal of his is to play

1084
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 1: ten years in the NFL, and that's a very difficult

1085
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 1: goal for anybody, but he is able. He's been able

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00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 1: to accomplish that and still play at a high level.

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00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: How good has he been this year? Well, I think

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00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 1: he looks as good or better than the last couple

1089
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: of years, frankly, and that's no knock on how he played,

1090
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: because he played really well. But I just think he's

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00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: you know what he does is he takes like Bobby does.

1092
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: They take on the responsibility of being those leaders. You know,

1093
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 1: he's the longest tenured guy on that defense, I think

1094
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: the longest tenured guy on the team actually going back

1095
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 1: to what twenty eleven, and so he is the kind

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00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 1: of guy that you want as that leader. But he'd

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00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 1: make sure that guys, you know, play the positions, Dave.

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Speaker 1: I remember during the game there was a there was

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00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: a moment where I think I think it was a

1100
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,439
Speaker 1: red keep option and Murray goes out to the left

1101
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 1: side and kJ played it absolutely perfectly, turned everything back

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00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 1: inside and then made the tackle. And I saw you

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00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: just get tickled about it because that's exactly what you

1104
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: want that guy to do, and he knew exactly what

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00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:45,479
Speaker 1: to do. You know what I would have done, Raves

1106
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,280
Speaker 1: in that situation. I would have closed my eyes and guessed,

1107
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: I was going to say, you'd have fallen down and

1108
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 1: called for help. Yeah, but fifty fifty chants there, But no,

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00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I got really excited about that. Is

1110
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: there anybody more dangerous in the open field right now? No?

1111
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 1: I mean he's like the modern day Barry Sanders. I think, Yeah,

1112
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 1: Michael Vick, remember the day, the days of Michael Vick,

1113
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: how difficult he was to defend against, and now now

1114
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 1: you have that in Kyler Murray. But you know, I

1115
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 1: think I think they've after a couple of games, the

1116
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: Seahoaks kind of figured things out a little bit against

1117
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: those guys. And now you've got a guy coming up

1118
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia in Carson Wentz who's not that kind of scrambler.

1119
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: But listen, the guy can run. He scored five touchdowns

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Speaker 1: on the ground this year running the football. He's he

1121
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 1: scored more rushing touchdowns than anybody on that team. So

1122
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 1: you can't take him lightly, even though he's thrown fourteen

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00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: picks on the year. Now, Rabes, you're the voice of

1124
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, you've got to be watching everyone, obviously because

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00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 1: you're calling this game. But who are you keeping your

1126
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 1: eye on when it comes to that strength you were

1127
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 1: just talking about for Carson Wentz, who needs to have

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Speaker 1: a great day for Seattle. Wow, Well, you know, I

1129
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 1: Carlos Dunlop has has been quite the addition to this defense,

1130
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: mostly because and I don't take credit for thinking of

1131
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,479
Speaker 1: thinking of this, but I think you know, Pete talked

1132
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 1: about it. I've read a number of articles here in

1133
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: the last few days about what he has meant to

1134
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: the defense in opening things up for other guys, and

1135
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 1: that that you know, you can't discount that. That's a

1136
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 1: big deal. So against the guy back there who's who's

1137
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 1: you know, a big strong guy but doesn't have those

1138
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: quick feet like Kyler Murray to get out of trouble.

1139
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: He's more like a Jared Goff and if you can,

1140
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: you know, you can contain him inside with those defensive ends.

1141
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 1: Elsie Klier's played well on defense, but you know, I

1142
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: think it always too on defense. Uh, it's going to

1143
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: come down to Bobby in the middle making sure everybody

1144
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: gets to where they need to be. And Jamal Adams.

1145
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 1: I think this is going to be interesting because Wentz

1146
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: likes to throw to his tight ends. His three tight

1147
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: ends combined to have sixty eight receptions, so he likes

1148
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: to get that ball to those guys. He's not as

1149
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 1: good throwing it downfield. I think it's going to put

1150
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: pressure on guys like Jamal Adams and Andrea Diggs and

1151
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: on Bobby and kJ Those crossing routes, those short turn

1152
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: in routes, those routes that quarterbacks like to go to

1153
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: when the pressures on them to get rid of the football,

1154
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: and so I think you know that whole middle of

1155
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: the Seahawks defense is really going to have to be

1156
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 1: on guard this week. He is Seahawks played by play

1157
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: man Steve Rabel. You can hear him obviously for every

1158
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: single game and some of his calls the following week

1159
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: when we play those highlights, I'm hoping we have quite

1160
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: a few from this game. Rabes, I am going to

1161
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: put you on the spot and make you give us

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00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: some kind of prediction. Maybe it doesn't have to be

1163
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: a score, but I'd love a score if you have one.

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00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: Oh wow, you know, and I'm terrible in the prediction

1165
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: business I have. When you're gonna ask Dave, I literally

1166
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: am the worst. But you know I oh, I'll say,

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00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: and I always say that I always couch it this way.

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Speaker 1: If they play up to their capabilities, If the Seahawks

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Speaker 1: played the way they have been trending in the last

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Speaker 1: few weeks, and that is not only playing really good defense,

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00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: but getting Chris Carson back running the football, I think

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00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 1: this is a game the Seahawks should go back to

1173
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 1: Philadelphia on Monday night. They've got great record under the

1174
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: bright lights of Monday night, they should very well, go

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00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: back there and win that game. I don't know that

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00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: it'll be a runaway, but I think they should win

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00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 1: that game without it coming down to the last play.

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Speaker 1: You know what it's going to be? Seventeen to nine again,

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00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: is it really? Yeah? Because remember I did it was

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00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: the regular season seventeen nine last year. Yeah. Yeah. They

1181
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: also got like seven or five sacks in that game,

1182
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: some ridiculous number of it. Yeah, and then let's look

1183
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 1: forward to more of those. And again, I'd love to

1184
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: see Chris Carson carry the ball fifteen eighteen times, pick

1185
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: up about eighty five yards along with Carlos Hide. That's

1186
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: the way you control the football and you keep that

1187
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: Eagles offense off the field. All right. He is Steve Rabel.

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Speaker 1: You can hear him every single week joining us on

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Speaker 1: the huddle. Thanks Rapes, Thanks guy, Happy Thanksgiving, Happy Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 1: All right. Head coach of the Eagles, Doug Peterson spoke

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00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: with reporters earlier today. Hear what he had to say

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00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: about Carson, Wentz, DK Metcalf and Russell Wilson. That's next

1193
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 1: on the huddle. This is the huddle presented by Bickford

1194
00:59:55,440 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: Ford every Thursday from noon to two on seven ten ESPNS. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the huddle with Dave Wyman, Jay Keeps

1196
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Speaker 1: and Stacy Ross getting fired up. Good music choice here, Tarik,

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Speaker 1: I like that one. Hey, Rocky was filmed in Philly

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Speaker 1: and guess exact plans exactly right on Monday, ever made

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Speaker 1: that connection. Look, we're gonna take ourselves to Philly with

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Speaker 1: some sound from head coach Doug Peterson. I'm gonna get

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01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 1: started skipping ahead a bit cut number six. He was

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Speaker 1: asked about Carson Wentz has played this season before you

1203
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 1: go to here, uh tark, Carson Wentz has obviously struggled.

1204
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 1: He is playing unlike himself. He's got career highs and interceptions.

1205
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Speaker 1: He's also been sacked a career high forty times. And

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Speaker 1: keep in mind, we've still got a month plus to play.

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Speaker 1: Uh So. Ruben Frank of NBC Philadelphia joined us, saying

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Speaker 1: he's on track to break records with that. It has

1209
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 1: not been a strong season. This is Peterson obviously, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's it's not what he wanted or probably what we

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01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 1: want right now with with where he's at and we're

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01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 1: continuing to work through, uh you know, some issues on offense.

1213
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: We've We've got a lot of injury up front with

1214
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: the offensive line. You know, some some young players on

1215
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 1: the on the perimeter that we're we're working through who

1216
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,439
Speaker 1: are improving each week. And you know, it's just something

1217
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 1: that a work in progress, you know. And uh, and

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01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: we continue to work with Carson to to you know,

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Speaker 1: get not only him fixed, but get to get the

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Speaker 1: OFFENSI fixed. Jake and Dave, they put themselves in a

1221
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: weird kind of spot by drafting Jalen Hurts in the

1222
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 1: second round and now rather than having someone who could

1223
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Speaker 1: just be any old backup that isn't going to create

1224
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Speaker 1: a controversy if you switch and make a quarterback switch

1225
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 1: all the sudden, people are wondering if you're looking ahead,

1226
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 1: But they're married to Carson with his contract for at

1227
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 1: least I would guess through next year. You've just got

1228
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 1: way too much dead salary cap. So, Jake, I know

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Speaker 1: that there's a quarterback controversy brewing and has been brewing

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Speaker 1: for a while in Philadelphia. Do you think they should

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01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 1: stick with Wentz? Yes, yes, they should stick with Wentz. Um.

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Speaker 1: I think for everything that is going on right now,

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01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 1: they have to stick with Wentz. Do I think Jalen

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Speaker 1: Hurts is the long term answer potentially, Yeah, I do.

1235
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Speaker 1: But if you're Doug Peterson and you're gonna go out

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Speaker 1: potentially after this season, how are you going to go out?

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01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 1: Are you gonna do it with somebody that you know

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01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 1: and trust, or are you going to try and you know,

1239
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 1: grasp at Shraws, which is essentially what I think this

1240
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 1: move would make if you're not overly confident that Jalen

1241
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 1: Hurts is gonna be the guy that you need to

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01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 1: make your team better. And to me, that's where I

1243
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: think Doug Peterson is in. He's not in a situation

1244
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 1: where he's watching Jalen Hurts and saying, we plug this

1245
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 1: kid is special, and when I watch him in practice,

1246
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 1: this kid is you know, obviously we are holding him

1247
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 1: back because we have a starter that we have committed to.

1248
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Speaker 1: If I don't feel that way, if I don't have

1249
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 1: that conviction, if I'm Doug Peterson, then I'm going to

1250
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 1: continue to roll out there with Carson Wentz. And unfortunately,

1251
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 1: I do think that Wentz is not playing great football.

1252
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 1: He's making poor decisions. But I also think that he

1253
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 1: is again in his position where he is devoid of

1254
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 1: he is there is a massive hole in talent surrounding him,

1255
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Speaker 1: and it just seems like musical chairs at the offensive

1256
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Speaker 1: line positions this season for the Eagles, and that is

1257
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Speaker 1: one thing that has plagued them over the last couple

1258
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Speaker 1: of seasons. Yeah, it's weird that Peterson said it's a

1259
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Speaker 1: work in progress. So I'm like, it's getting late. I mean,

1260
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Speaker 1: played ten games now and forty sacks, by the way,

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Speaker 1: at thirty seven all of last year, so I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, it just seems like he's beat up. He

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Speaker 1: does not look confidence confident. I was watching the Red

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Speaker 1: Zone channel and just as soon as I turned it on,

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Speaker 1: it was I think the interception that he threw in

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Speaker 1: Cleveland that went for a pick six, and you could

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01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 1: just see the look on his face. I mean, he

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01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 1: just he's not confident. He doesn't have You're right, Jake,

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Speaker 1: I mean he doesn't have a ton of talent. Miles Sanders.

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Speaker 1: I believe it's a second round draft choice out of

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01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: Penn State running back, but other than that, he doesn't

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01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 1: have a lot of talent. I think Dallas Goddard might

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01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 1: be maybe the next highest drafted guy. Zach Ertz not

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01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 1: playing right now, so correctly. Yeah, so um, but yeah,

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01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 1: that he just he doesn't have a lot of weapons.

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01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 1: It was the same thing last year when we got there.

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01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 1: I mean, shoot, they had to move a right tackles. Yeah,

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01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 1: with that practice Scott greg Ward, who was one of

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Speaker 1: their leading receivers. He's a quarterback, you know, so, I mean,

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01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 1: and then you know the other guy, um, the little

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01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 1: tiny guy whose name eludes me, Scott Bart Scott, he

1282
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 1: was the guy that was like on the practice squad

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01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 1: in New Orleans. They cut Boston Scott sorry, Boston yeah,

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01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 1: Scott yeah, yeah yeah, Boston Yeah and five foot six

1285
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 1: and just an awesome player. But I mean he's like

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01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 1: one of your best players right now, so you know

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01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 1: that there there is a lack of talent around around him.

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01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 1: And then you know this Travis Fulgham Fulgham guy from

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01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 1: Old Dominion. Yeah, he's a leading receiver. In the last

1290
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 1: two weeks he's had twelve targets and two catches. So yeah,

1291
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the whole thing is breaking down.

1292
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 1: So it looks pretty bad there in Philly when you

1293
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 1: think about who's gonna win that that division, Philly does

1294
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 1: not look I think Clayton thinks it's Dallas that's going

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01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 1: to come through and win that. But maybe it's the

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01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 1: Giants that's That's who I like. I mean, speaking of

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01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 1: the NFC East Cut number eight, here's Peterson talking about

1298
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 1: this division. We're still in the hunt in the NFC

1299
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 1: East and and uh, you know, I'm sitting it's crazy,

1300
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 1: it is, you're sitting on top with the three wins,

1301
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 1: but you know it's it's gonna come down to these

1302
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 1: last last six games for for you know, someone in

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01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 1: the nc East to win it. And you know, I keep,

1304
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 1: I keep just focused on one week at a time,

1305
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 1: you know, one day at a time, you know, getting

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01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 1: better today and getting out to getting out to practice

1307
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 1: later on and uh, you know, trying to improve. Now,

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01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong, you guys. Because of the

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01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 1: way the schedule is set up, whoever wins this Thanksgiving

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01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 1: matchup between Washington Dallas will at least temporarily until Philadelphia

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01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 1: plays Monday night, take the lead in the NFC East. Right,

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01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 1: That's correct? Yes, yep? And so who do you like? Jake?

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01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 1: I like, I like Daniel Jones, and I I like

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Speaker 1: the Giants. I'm to me, I feel like, you know,

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01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 1: we'll see who wins that division. But yeah, it's gonna

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01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 1: be uh, you know, kind of a I don't know

1317
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 1: if this is going to reveal much about this team

1318
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 1: the Seahawks the next what four weeks. That's why that

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01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 1: Arizona victory and a lot of people I heard somebody saying, well,

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01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 1: it was, you know, twenty seven twenty one. It still

1321
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 1: had to come down to our twenty eight twenty one,

1322
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 1: and it still had to come down to the last drive.

1323
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 1: But that was a team that was putting up four

1324
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five yards and a really good offensive

1325
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 1: team and the fact that they were able to do that,

1326
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 1: because but that was really important because I don't think

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01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 1: anybody's gonna feel super secure after these next four, not

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01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:54,440
Speaker 1: until the LA if they win. Yeah, you know, you're

1329
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 1: you're still gonna want to see more. And it kind

1330
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 1: of goes against what I always say that like what

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01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 1: makes a team danger is that they're in the NFL,

1332
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 1: because every NFL team is dangerous and can beat you.

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01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 1: But you know, right now, these guys are not playing well,

1334
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 1: and you know, if you beat the Jets twenty one

1335
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 1: to twenty, if people might start to freak out over

1336
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 1: that a little bit. Now, that doesn't mean that this

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01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 1: upcoming Monday night game isn't important. So Jake and Dave,

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01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 1: I want you to get your guys as blueprints ready

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01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 1: for how you beat Philly. I will tell you mine

1340
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 1: step number one, score more points and hopefully you guys

1341
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 1: have better ones. We'll get back to it next in

1342
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:36,919
Speaker 1: the huddle. This is the huddle presented by Bigfoot four

1343
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 1: every Thursday from noon to two f seven ten ESPN, Seattle.

1344
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 1: I used to roll the stone cold right, all right,

1345
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 1: welcome back to the huddle with Dave Wyman, Jake Keeps,

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Speaker 1: and Stacy Ross. Wrapping this one up ahead of your

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01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving weekend, getting you guys ready for a month day

1348
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 1: night primetime game between the Seahawks and the struggling Philadelphia Eagles.

1349
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 1: They've still got some weapons, but I think there should

1350
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 1: be more often than not an opportunity here for the

1351
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 1: Seahawks to not just beat the Philadelphia Eagles, but to

1352
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 1: feel pretty good about your defense heading into that game.

1353
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 1: So I asked you Dave and you Jake to come

1354
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 1: up with the blueprint to beating the Philadelphia Eagles. My

1355
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 1: answer is just to this kind of make Carson Wentz

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01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 1: struggle early. Sack him one or two times early in

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01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 1: the game. He's been sacked forty times this year. I

1358
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 1: think that he clearly struggles under pressure this year. So

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01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 1: early enough in the game, get one or two sacks

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01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 1: in there, and I think that that is enough to

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01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,639
Speaker 1: kind of fluster him. You're basically saying what I said,

1362
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:46,640
Speaker 1: and then you chest. But Dave, you said, I said, concussion,

1363
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:49,680
Speaker 1: Carson went the same thing you're talking about. What do

1364
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 1: you mean, don't say that? All right? Well it happened

1365
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 1: last year. Hey, look, I played my best game on

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01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 1: a concussion. As a matter of fact, before my show starts,

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01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do my third of six hours, I'm gonna

1368
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:07,640
Speaker 1: concuss myself. I'm gonna go into the bathroom. I'll do

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01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 1: it in the bathroom. I don't see what it says,

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01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:15,679
Speaker 1: hit Carson Wentz early, Make football violent again. Make Carson

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01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 1: Wentz worried again. I don't Yeah, I don't see what

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01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 1: the problem is. I mean, come on, yeah, I spoken

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01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 1: like a spoken like a true linebacker. A right, Okay, okay,

1374
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 1: So I'll do the same thing as you then, Stacy,

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01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 1: I just look, I think with the coverage in the

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01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 1: way they're playing now they have Trey Flowers getting more confident,

1377
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 1: you know. And that was the game last year where

1378
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 1: I think he started to lose his confidence late in

1379
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 1: the season and then the playoffs. Now he's confident. So

1380
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 1: that to me is these this isn't a great stable

1381
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:55,799
Speaker 1: of receivers. Yeah again, this guy uh Fulgham, Travis Fulgham.

1382
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 1: I mean, he started off on fire, but man, his

1383
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:02,679
Speaker 1: last two games, he you know, twelve targets, few catches

1384
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:05,680
Speaker 1: for sixteen yards, So you know that that's one of

1385
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 1: their leading receivers right there. So he just doesn't have

1386
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 1: a lot of talent around him. So if you get

1387
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 1: to Carson Wentz and I was trying to think who

1388
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 1: who told us this, but I guess on one of

1389
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 1: the plays, oh, I know, it was Michael Bradley Alambre.

1390
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 1: He was talking about how on one of the interceptions

1391
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:25,599
Speaker 1: that he threw the pick six that some wast Dallas Goddard.

1392
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:27,720
Speaker 1: I think the tight end was just wide open and

1393
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 1: he didn't see him. So but that's the thing, you know,

1394
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 1: And Jake, you know this better than anybody. I mean,

1395
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 1: if somebody just because somebody's wide open, it doesn't mean

1396
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 1: you're necessarily going to see him. Sometime there's a tackle

1397
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 1: in your way, or sometimes there's something flashing and you

1398
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 1: just don't see him. But you know, he just doesn't

1399
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 1: have a lot of confidence right now. And I don't

1400
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 1: blame him because he doesn't have great receivers. Yeah that

1401
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 1: is That is absolutely true. And you just see him

1402
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:53,559
Speaker 1: right now, and I just think that he's struggling. He's

1403
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:56,599
Speaker 1: swimming right now with everything that's going on. I mean,

1404
01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 1: you see that microcosm of you know, Russell going through

1405
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 1: that a little bit in this last month. The Carson

1406
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 1: Wentz is ten times what Russell went through in that

1407
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 1: month in terms of, you know, devoid of talent, being

1408
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 1: in a situation where it's all on him and you know,

1409
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 1: Carson really not handling that very well at all. And

1410
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 1: to your guys' point, this is interesting that you know

1411
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:28,560
Speaker 1: Seahawks pr tweeted out since week eight, the Seattle Seahawks

1412
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 1: are second in the NFL in sacks. They've generated sixteen

1413
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 1: sacks since Week eight. That's a huge turnaround in pressure

1414
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 1: and if they can continue to stay on that trend

1415
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 1: with the Eagles, I do think that that will be

1416
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 1: the biggest key to the game. If Carson Wentz is

1417
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 1: struggling and mentally he is having a hard time, well,

1418
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 1: don't make it any easier on him. Continue to make

1419
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:56,719
Speaker 1: this a nightmare of a situation for him. But to me, guys,

1420
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 1: my key to the game. Since you guys have been

1421
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 1: talking about defense, I'm going to flip over to the

1422
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:05,599
Speaker 1: offensive side. And it's and it is starting fast. It's

1423
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 1: not when I say star fast, it's not just one drive.

1424
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:10,680
Speaker 1: It's not the opening drive of the game that I'm

1425
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 1: talking about. Um, They've had drives where they've opened up

1426
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 1: and scored early and the game still finished relatively close

1427
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 1: at the end. What I mean by star fast is

1428
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:23,719
Speaker 1: I think that if they start fast through the entire

1429
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 1: first quarter and they're able to get up to it

1430
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 1: early two score game, I think the game's over. Very

1431
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 1: simply put. There might be some ebb and flow that

1432
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 1: happens within that game, but if they get up two

1433
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 1: scores within the first quarter, game over done deal. They

1434
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 1: will be in a prime position to be able to

1435
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 1: ride that that tent, that two score deficit that the

1436
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 1: Eagles will have. They're just not a team that the

1437
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 1: Eagles are not a team that have the ability right

1438
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 1: now to come back and compete with a team like

1439
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 1: the Seahawks at this stage. And so to me, that's

1440
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 1: that's going to be the key to the game. Important

1441
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 1: is that you think they get the running game going,

1442
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 1: because I'm looking at Philly their defense is like, I

1443
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 1: think twenty four, twenty fifth, they're giving up like one

1444
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty five, one hundred and forty yards a game.

1445
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 1: Excuse me. So, you know, with Hyde Carson, I saw

1446
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 1: a quote this week where Pete was just so fired

1447
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 1: up about Chris Carson. He's like, oh, I wish you

1448
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 1: guys could see him. He looks great, he's crushing, and

1449
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 1: he's all these adjectives that you know that Pete uses,

1450
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:28,639
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, and and so you know, if

1451
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 1: that if that's the case, I mean, I think that's

1452
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:33,760
Speaker 1: really important because then you know, you don't have to

1453
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 1: take a lot of risk, you don't have to throw

1454
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 1: a ton, and you know, this is not a great

1455
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:42,679
Speaker 1: run defense right now. It is not a great run defense.

1456
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 1: But Dave, you'll really appreciate how they play though Jim

1457
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 1: Schwartz keeps everything really simple. It's cover one, it's cover three.

1458
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 1: They play downhill, they play hard and they will play

1459
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 1: hard in the first half. When I watch these guys

1460
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:58,559
Speaker 1: on film, defensively, they get worn down in the second

1461
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 1: half of games. And this is they are. They are

1462
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:05,800
Speaker 1: hurting at the linebacker level right now. They've got a

1463
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:09,600
Speaker 1: lot of injuries there. But they play hard. And the

1464
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 1: Seahawks are gonna have The Seahawks offense in particular, are

1465
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 1: going to have to earn it and for the ground

1466
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 1: game to bust out the way that it has versus

1467
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 1: the Eagles, It's going to take patience. Uh, it's going

1468
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 1: to take a commitment to uh in willingness to run

1469
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 1: the ball. And quite honestly, you know, we had Ruben

1470
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 1: come on with us from from earlier in the huddle

1471
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:33,840
Speaker 1: talk about uh you know some Ruben Frank come on

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Speaker 1: and talk with us about this Eagles defense. I agree

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Speaker 1: with them. They have not been tested in the secondary yet.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's sixth in passing defense because they're

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Speaker 1: actually sixth in passing defense. I think it's just the

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Speaker 1: teams that they have played. So I still think this

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Speaker 1: is going to be a balance attack led by the

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Speaker 1: passing offense and Russell Wilson, DK Metcalf, Tyler Lockett. But

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have that really nice balance of Chris Carson

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Speaker 1: and Carlos Hyde coming down down hill at this Philadelphia

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01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 1: Eagle defense. You know, they're getting Ethan Postic back at center,

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Speaker 1: like you said, Dave, getting Chris Carson back, So you've

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01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 1: got some pieces returning. You're right, Jake, Though we really

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Speaker 1: haven't talked much about this offense, I wanted to ask

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Speaker 1: the two of you specifically about that tight end position.

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Speaker 1: You're going to be without Greg Olson now for at

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01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 1: least four to six weeks, Pete Carroll hoping that he

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01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:21,439
Speaker 1: can come back on the early end of that, but

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Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like he'll be back in the regular season.

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Speaker 1: So we aren't sure whether or how soon we're going

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01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 1: to see Colby Parkinson. But how important does it become

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Speaker 1: then for a guy like Will Disley and Jacob Hollister. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up, because, first of all,

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Speaker 1: Colby Parkinson Parkinson yesterday Pete Carroll said, we're gonna make

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Speaker 1: him play. That was his quote, We're gonna make him play,

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Speaker 1: make him play. Yeah, So, and I don't know if

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Speaker 1: he meant to say that, but yeah, it'll be interesting

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Speaker 1: to see what what that guy brings. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: not he didn't have these huge numbers or anything at Stanford,

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01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 1: but you know, he's much more. He's very slender guy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think you're putting him out there

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01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:58,559
Speaker 1: to block anybody, but it seems like Hollister is starting

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01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:00,599
Speaker 1: to kind of heat up a little bit with Russ

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01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 1: and with the play action, you know, with your tight ends,

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01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 1: and that's where part of the getting the running game going.

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01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 1: You know, I felt like Disley was going to have

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01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 1: a really big year coming into this and maybe it

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01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 1: was too not fair to expect that from him because

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01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 1: he's coming off his second, you know, injury, major injury.

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01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 1: But it's not though it's not like, well, maybe he's

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01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 1: not getting open, but they're not targeting him that much.

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01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 1: So I felt like it should be a bigger part

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Speaker 1: of it. But maybe that will go hand in hand

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Speaker 1: with them getting the running game going again. Jake, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. That will be a key factor

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01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 1: and it's a point of emphasis for Pete Carroll. And

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01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 1: the one thing that I think has been beautiful about

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01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 1: the way that this offense has functioned this year is

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01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 1: they have been able to remain one step ahead I

1520
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 1: think everything is centered through Russell Wilson. But Russell has

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01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 1: been great, much like Peyton Manning in his day, to

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01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:57,559
Speaker 1: be able to look at the defense and if it's

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01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 1: a pass, I'm going to get to the run because

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Speaker 1: that is the call that is going to get us

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01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 1: the best output in this situation, not playing selfish football.

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01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 1: And that's why I saw versus the Arizona Cardinals, and

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01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 1: I think you're going to see that same exact thing

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Speaker 1: against the Eagles. And You're right, David, does help you

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01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 1: in terms of that play action game. It helps you

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Speaker 1: with getting those tight ends down the seam. And I

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Speaker 1: do believe that you will see you know, Disley and

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Speaker 1: Hollister and and I'm just as curious as Colby Parkinson

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Speaker 1: because I've I've heard that Colby Parkinson has done well,

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01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 1: that he has looked good so far. So don't be

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01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 1: surprised if you see Colby Parkinson contribute. Maybe not with

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01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 1: a ton of catches, but don't be surprised if if

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Speaker 1: he does, you know, you know, have a surprise, you know,

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01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,840
Speaker 1: catch or two in this week's game. Davidcher, you'd like

1539
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:52,639
Speaker 1: to see a former Stanford guy involved a little bit

1540
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 1: happy to see that absolutely. I like he confirmed last

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Speaker 1: week when we talked to him, because I heard the

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Speaker 1: replay of the huddle on Saturday as I was driving

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Speaker 1: the home depot. Uh and um, yeah, and that he

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01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:06,799
Speaker 1: also experienced that, you know, because he went to Stanford.

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01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 1: Everybody's asking him and then if you don't know the

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01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 1: answer to the question, like oh you went to Stanford,

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01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, well they didn't have that class there. Okay,

1548
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not a tax attorney, all right, So

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01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 1: but yeah, I can't wait to see, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: what he's about because you know, like I said, I

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01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 1: don't think he's much of a blocker, and that's fine,

1552
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:27,240
Speaker 1: you know, but he's a tall dude that you know,

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01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:30,759
Speaker 1: has has a talent that I think that'll be interesting

1554
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 1: to see him get out there if he can go

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01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 1: out and play well for me, anytime a rookie does anything.

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Speaker 1: But you know, this will be I think the second

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01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 1: to last guy. I think he's played in a game,

1558
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 1: But this is the second to last guy rookie that

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01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:48,719
Speaker 1: has not been on the field. So in other words,

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01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 1: here's what I'm trying to say, Stacy, is that everybody

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Speaker 1: from the draft has been on the field except for

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Speaker 1: Colby Parkinson and Darryl Taylor. And I think we're gonna

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01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 1: see Daryl Taylor later. But that's pretty unusual. And coming

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Speaker 1: into the season knowing that they weren't going to have

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01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 1: practice in preseason, it's hard for rookies to get any

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01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 1: experience to get on the field. The fact that they

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Speaker 1: have used all of their rookies this year, that's just

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Speaker 1: good coaching and it's good selection by John Schneider and

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Speaker 1: his staff of getting guys that are just game ready

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Speaker 1: coming in here. All right, this has been the huddle

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Speaker 1: with Jay Keeps, Dave Wyman, and Stacy Ross. We're wishing

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Speaker 1: you guys a happy Thanksgiving, getting everyone ready for the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks Monday night game against the Eagles. Let's hope for

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Speaker 1: a win. I think we're all going to be excited

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01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 1: to see one. All right, Stay tuned because Dave Wyman

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Speaker 1: is going to be coming up next on seven ten

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Speaker 1: ESPN Seattle. This has been the huddle.