1 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind from how Stuff 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey, why don't we stuff to boil 3 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 1: your mind? My name is Robert Lamb and I'm Julie. Julie. 4 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: Is there a lot of coffee in your house? Are 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: you a coffee household? Yes? How do you make your coffee? 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 1: You know? I put a lot of creamer in it 7 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: and a lot of sugar. Yeah. What kind of device 8 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: do you use? I'm weak sauce when it comes to this. Well, 9 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: you know, a standard coffee machine? Yeah. I don't know 10 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: if someone asked me if if our coffee machine had 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: been seasoned, and I was like, what do you mean 12 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: season and apparently like if you brew a certain amount 13 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: of times then infuses your coffee with a better flavor. Yeah. 14 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: Seasoned is often a term for gross stup, you know, like, yeah, 15 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: that's there enough stuff growing in or on your kitchen 16 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: implement to give it as the desired flavor. Then yes, yea, 17 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: it is seasoned. What about you? We we use um, 18 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: just like we have a standard Mr Coffee. Um, We've 19 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: tried to use different you know, perculators and stuff and 20 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: never quite works out. When I was coming back to 21 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: Mr Coffee and then I also bring out the French 22 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: breasts if I want to do something a little nicer. 23 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: I knew you had the fancy pants when it came 24 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: to coffee, that is not No, I don't even begin 25 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 1: to have fancy pants because there are so many complex 26 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: ways of making coffee. There's so many different cold brew devices, 27 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: and of course pour over is the big thing these days. 28 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: And uh, I'm I'm really I mean, I'm not a 29 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: straight up, you know, instant coffee drinker. I'm not I'm 30 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: not a tencent cup kind of a guy, but I'm 31 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: I'm definitely far from fancy. Well, all I know is that, um, 32 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: there was like a month here at how stuff works 33 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: when our our bean supply got really low, and you 34 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: you were the person who blaze the trails and saying 35 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: we must fortify the being supply. So I know it's 36 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: important to you. Coffee is important to me. I I 37 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: drink coffee every day, and if I forget to drink it, 38 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: my my body is quick to remind me that I 39 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: forgot to drink it. And uh, and I like a 40 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: good cup of coffee, but I'm just not not as 41 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: as picky as a lot of people are. And uh, 42 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: and maybe my tasting coffee is just not as nuance. 43 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: But but I do love love a good cup of coffee. Well, 44 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: I mean, this is one of those things that you 45 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: could discuss this for hours and hours. You can talk 46 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: about shade grow and you can talk about fair trade. 47 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: We're not going to talk about those aspects, nor are 48 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 1: we going to talk about the different ritals um that exist. 49 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: All fascinating, but we're gonna to kind of go into 50 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: what coffee is doing to your brain in some of 51 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: the benefits of coffee. And uh, first I wanted to 52 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: point out something about coffee, or caffeine in particular, that 53 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: it is the most widely consumed psychoactive substance on Earth. 54 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: I don't think that's surprising. In North America, around adults 55 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 1: report using caffeine every day, eighteen billion dollar business in 56 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: the US, and there are more than sixteen billion pounds 57 00:02:54,800 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: of coffee beings produced per year in the US. That 58 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: is a lot of psychoactivity. And the number one consumption 59 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: of coffee in the United States Gas No New York City. 60 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: Oh yes, that would that would make a lot more sense. Yeah, um, 61 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: coffee one oh one. Here, let's go through some of 62 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: the basics for you guys. Yeah, so coffee beans of course, 63 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 1: So these come from from the coffee plant and theise 64 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: are you know, seeds found in the pit of a 65 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: cherry sized fruit on the coffee plant. And if you 66 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: just if you've had the experience, if you've visited like 67 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: a coffee farm and had the chance to try them, 68 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: you can't just does not taste like coffee if you 69 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: just pick it up in sweet right, like sweet sweet 70 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: and a little you know, bitter. It's it's not something 71 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: where you would just feel like snacking on them, like 72 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: you're not getting a it's not like eating a blueberry, 73 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: and it's not like eating a coffee bean. And presumably 74 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: though you'd get a bit of a caffeine rush just 75 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: from this. Yeah, because the earlier methods, if you go 76 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: back in time, you know, did not involve slow roasting 77 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: coffee beans. Um. One that I ran across, uh, and 78 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: this is actually from the house Stuff Works article on 79 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: coffee um is that early East African tribes would mix 80 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: the coffee berries and that's again they unhold beans called 81 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: a coffee cherry with animal fat forming energy balls. So 82 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: you could think of it as a as a primitive 83 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: power bar, except except maybe a little less gross. Yeah. 84 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: I was just thinking about that. I was a kid, 85 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: you not. I was thinking about the wrapper that would 86 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: go around that, like animal fat, big lump of fat 87 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: and coffee bear is just poked in and you just 88 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: you just shot down the whole thing and then you're 89 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: good to go. Handcrafted. Yeah, there you go. Um. Yeah, 90 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: So I think the interesting thing about that too is 91 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: that the beans are actually seeds. We call them beans 92 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: um and coffee trees. They are woody perennial evergreens, and 93 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: they are grown in tropical climates and seventy different countries. Uh. 94 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: These climates, these countries, the areas are known as the 95 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: bean belt. So I already mentioned the some some early 96 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: East African tribes. You have some stuff on goat herders 97 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, the is and this is again from 98 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: how Coffee Works, our article that we have on house 99 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: supports dot com. There is an Ethiopian legend whearing coffee 100 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: is discovered by a goat hurder named Caldi, who found 101 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: his goats frolicking and full of energy after eating the 102 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: red berries. And uh, Caldi tried the berries for himself, 103 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,239 Speaker 1: and lo and behold, he also started frolicking around, and 104 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: after witnessing the strange behavior of this goat hurder and 105 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: his goats, a monk took some of the berries back 106 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: to his fellow monks, and then they stayed up all 107 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: night long and they were alert and behold the coffee 108 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: beans powers were revealed. They also became rather big, of course, 109 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: in in the in the Islamic world, and kind of 110 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: flowed with the expansion of Islamic culture and uh and 111 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: some people say whirling dervishes. Actually um of early Islam 112 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: especially had were fueled by coffee. Whirling dervishes. Of course. 113 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: I think everyone's seeing footage films of this where there's 114 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: the they wear these kind of flowing garments, they go 115 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: into these swirling patterns and it's really really beautiful stuff. 116 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: At least a lot of coffee would make sense. Yeah, 117 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: I mean, apparently during the thirteenth century, coffee was extremely 118 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: popular with Muslim um communities because of its stimulant powers. 119 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: So you can see how they also appealed to this 120 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: monks with the with the goat herder who discovered it, 121 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: because what do you do with those stimulant powers? Um, 122 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: It can be very useful during really long prayer sessions, 123 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,799 Speaker 1: and so the story behind this, according to Tory Avy, 124 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: who is writing for PBS and her article The Caffeinated 125 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: History of Coffee, is that coffee plants, they did not 126 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: exist outside of Arabia or Africa until the sixteen hundreds 127 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: when this guy named Baba Boudon, an Indian pilgrim, left 128 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: Mecca with the legend says, fertile beans fastened to a 129 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: strap across his abdomen smuggle him out, smuggled him out 130 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: and established a new and competitive European coffee trade, which 131 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: leads perfectly to the Age of Enlightenment exactly. So, I 132 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: think everyone's heard this story before. This is the idea that, uh, 133 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: you know, in human history, um, water wasn't always the 134 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: best thing to drink. It wasn't always the purest um. 135 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: So drinking water to maintain your hydration level might make 136 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: you fabulously sick. Better off trusting good old fashioned beer. Now, 137 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: the thing about drinking beer all day is that, aside 138 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: from from really probably making you feel bloated um most 139 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: of the time, you're also going to be intoxicated most 140 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: of the time. You're gonna take long naps, You're going 141 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: to vomit in the streets and uh, and generally you're 142 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: probably not going to get that much done. I mean, 143 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: some individuals have have a really you know, high work 144 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: rate when they're inebriated, but I think they're the exception 145 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: that proves the rule. And you have to remember to 146 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: that we're talking about the six We were talking about 147 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: societies in which you know that the seasons sort of 148 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: ruled them a lot more than than our modern technology 149 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,239 Speaker 1: rules us right now. So there were periods of time, 150 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: you know, in the winter, for instance, where there wasn't 151 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: anything to do. There wasn't any farming to do, so 152 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: what would you do? Yeah, and at night you're limited 153 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: by how many candles or torches can you lie? You 154 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's the limitations were placed something 155 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: by their environment and by the seasons. So you would 156 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: pass the time perhaps drinking some meat, some good old meat, 157 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: and snoring a lot. And although you might have communed 158 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: at a tavern, you would still all be sitting around 159 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: sort of like, you know, half polluted in your mind 160 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: and half asleep. But the whole the coffee trade and 161 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: the coffee houses that began to spring up in Europe, 162 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: because here's something else I can drink all day and 163 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: uh and not necessarily get sick on. And it also 164 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 1: also has an influence on my my state of mind. 165 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, people are chatting and they're awake, 166 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: and they are, you know, talking about all these different 167 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: ideas and focus on them. They're focusing and they're from 168 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: all different socio economic backgrounds, so you're not just getting 169 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: one perspective here. And uh, this is what a lot 170 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: of people credit for helping to usher in the age 171 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: of enlightenment. In fact, there is a book called Uncommon Grounds, 172 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: The History of Coffee and How It Transformed Our World 173 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: by Mark Pendergrass. He makes that claim as well as 174 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 1: author Stephen Johnson, who has a great ted talk about 175 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: creativity and cites coffee as being one of the fonts 176 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: of creativity and energy. Yeah. Now, of course one of 177 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: the things. Today you go into a coffee shop, like 178 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: I find this especially the case when I go into 179 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: your coffee shop, because we each have coffee shops, yeah, 180 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: fairly close to each other that are there our own turf. 181 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: I know better than to go to Julie's turf unless 182 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: I'm invited, because that's that's where she's working and then likewise, 183 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: you don't show up on my turf. No, not even 184 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: when the power is out. The other week, I was like, man, 185 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 1: I can't get a Robert's coffee shop. Which places will 186 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: come out? But but when I go to your coffee shop, 187 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: and I mainly bring this one up because your coffee 188 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 1: shop cans have more people in it. There are a 189 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: lot of people just working with headphones and there's some 190 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: people collaborating. But it seems like, you know, within our 191 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: modern technological age, um, maybe we're less likely to do 192 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: a lot of you know, collaborating with people, uh in 193 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: these coffee shops. But then again, we're connected to people 194 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: outside of it. And I think if you're like me, 195 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: there are certain individuals you you chat with every day, uh, 196 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: you know, you know, by email and by g chat 197 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: and what have you. Um, you know, being a friend 198 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: or my wife, and I can often tell when they've 199 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: had their caffeine because that's when they're reaching out to 200 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: me with all of these ideas and cool stuff and 201 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: they're really excited about something and uh, and if our 202 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: caffeine levels match up, then we're able to go back 203 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: and forth. If not, I might be like, oh, I'm 204 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: gonna put you on ignore for a little bit because 205 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 1: because I'm I'm trying to catch up on my edge. 206 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, yeah, this happens. I think especially on 207 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: the weekends. I noticed this with my husband because I'll 208 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: drink a lot of caffeine. I'll but it isn't it. 209 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: And then we'll listen, they will get ike and people 210 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: time to you won't And he's like, whoa, I'm still 211 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: in my first cup. So yes, we know it is powerful, 212 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: powerful stimulant um and it has had a lot of 213 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: influence on the modern world. Let's talk about what is 214 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: in a cup of this stuff? Yeah, magic demons that 215 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: that course through your blood and chew on the creative 216 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: portions of your brain. Exactly. Yeah, just they just roost 217 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: right in there. Um Patrick, did you Stow writing for Wired? 218 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: In his article What's Inside a Cup of Coffee? Really 219 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: details exactly what's in there. And I don't know that 220 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: we're going to go through every single thing that is 221 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: in there, but we wanted to hit the big ones 222 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: because it's pretty fascinating. Um, here's the big dub one 223 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: water content. Turns out that point seven is water at 224 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: one point to five is soluble plant matter. Okay, so 225 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 1: you're mostly paying for for water for water, Yeah, caffeine 226 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 1: another element um But this is interesting, actually an alkaloid 227 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: plant toxin. It's found in other plants, and it is 228 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: meant to be a natural pesticide. Oh so that's the 229 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: reason it was developed or the reason it evolved in 230 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: these plants exactly. That's why caffeine is in there to say, 231 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: But to the bugs, hey I'm toxic. If you chew 232 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 1: on me, you will die. Now, what happens to the 233 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 1: human brain with that same sort of element we will 234 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: find out in a moment. It's also also worth pointing 235 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: out that it operates in the brain the same way 236 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: that amphetamines such as cocaine and heroin do. Yes, which 237 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: which is maybe a bit of a no brainer. But caffeine, 238 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: of course, is a much milder stimulant than those drugs. 239 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: Even even a lot of caffeine, you're not going to 240 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: get the same effect that you would get off of 241 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: somebody doing a much of heroin or coke, obviously, right, 242 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: But what else is on this list stuff in the 243 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: Wired article? Okay, we have to ethel phenol, and this 244 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: creates a tar like medicinal odor in your morning coffee. 245 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:59,599 Speaker 1: There it's also this is awesome, a component of cockroach 246 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: along arm pheromones, chemical signals that warn the colony of danger. 247 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: The same chemical. Then there's also a clinic acid, and 248 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 1: this gives coffee it's slightly sour flavor. Uh, And it's 249 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: also one of the starter chemicals in the formulation of 250 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: tama flute. There is also something called a subtle methyl 251 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: carbonyl and according to the article, it's that rich buttery 252 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: taste in your daily jolt, which comes apart from this 253 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: flammable yellow liquid, the same liquid that gives real butter 254 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: its flavor and is a component of artificial flavoring and 255 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: microwave popcorn. And then we have left the best for last. 256 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: It's future scene, right, which sounds lovely. It sounds like 257 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: something you want in your daily cup. Yeah, it's an 258 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: organic chemical compound and it's related to cadavering, and both 259 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: are both are produced by the breakdown of amino acids 260 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: and living and dead organisms. So Digesto and his article 261 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: actually describes the smell as Satan's outhouse. And now that 262 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: I'm why would Satan have an awful outhouse? I think 263 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: It depends on your interpretation. He might have a really 264 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: clean out well that because I think you your version 265 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: is a benevolent satan or you know, or maybe it's 266 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: like constantly crate cleaned by um, you know, by by 267 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: the suffering damned. I don't know. I can see that, Yeah, 268 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: I can see that. Well, in that case, then they 269 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: might be that that might be a component of it. Yeah, 270 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: but I'm I'm hijacking the discussion with non scientific data here. 271 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: Thankfully that the amount of future scene is just miniscules, 272 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: so it's a scant levels that that wonderful outhouse smell. 273 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna take a break, and when we 274 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: come back, we're going to talk a little more about 275 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: us specifically. The most one of the really exciting things 276 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: here is is how does coffee affect creativity? And you 277 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: might be surprised at some of what we have to 278 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: say about that. And yes, we will also talk about 279 00:14:51,400 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: coffee's ability to, shall we say, ramp up the digestive system. 280 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: All right, we're back. We're talking about coffee. We're talking 281 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: about the effects that coffee has on the body and 282 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: on the mind. So, uh, let's get to it. What 283 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: what's next? Time the click. All right, so we're gonna 284 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: talk about the chemical changes in our brain, because this 285 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: is what caffeine is doing. It is gaming the brain, 286 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: and uh specifically, it is crossing over the blood brain barrier. 287 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: And now this is that the interface between the brain 288 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: and the body's circulatory system that is meant to take 289 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: to keep out all the bad chemicals. But caffeine can 290 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: cross into the brain and when it does, it becomes 291 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: an impostor of sorts. Now when I say impostor, I 292 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: mean that it is taking on the identity of something 293 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: called identazine. No. Identazine is this byproduct of um all 294 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: those neurons firing. It creates this substance in the brain. 295 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: And the build up of adentazine is actually monitored by 296 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: your nervous systems. Your nervous system says, oh, there's a 297 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: lot of adentazine accumulated here. This is going to tip 298 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: off this whole reaction in our body that says that 299 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: we need to take a nap or go to sleep 300 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: or even wake up. Adenazine is part and parcel of 301 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: how we manage our body clock. And what happens is 302 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: that that caffeine sneaks in and it looks chemically similar 303 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: to adnazine. So it takes adentazine's place in the adenazine receptors. 304 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: It bonds to the receptors, and what happens is that 305 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: it blocks that adnazine from bonding with those receptors. And 306 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: now your body, your brain doesn't know what's going on. 307 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: It doesn't have the sort of signals that it might 308 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: get from those receptors saying whoa, we need to slow 309 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: down the body. So that's how caffeine can bond with 310 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: those receptors and change your level of energy even when 311 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: you're you really should be tired. This is how you 312 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: get that that like the PM boost to finish studying 313 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: for the test the next day. Yeah, exactly, because you 314 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: are tricking your body into thinking that it's not tired. Yeah. 315 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: Very sneaky, don't you think. Yeah, it is. There's a 316 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: lot more, a lot more sneakiness involved than you know, 317 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: would initially think. Now, this also causes increased neuron firing 318 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: and a lot more just pup you going on in 319 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 1: the brain as the ideas fire around and uh and 320 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: and you start making plans for the day, the book 321 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna write, the ikea trip, you're gonna make all 322 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: that that's right, because all of that increased neuron firing 323 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: is causing the petuitary to gland to sort of wake 324 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: up and go, wow, that's a lot of activity going 325 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: on there. There must be an emergency. And then the 326 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: adrenal glands get on, get in on the game, and 327 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: of course adournaline is produced, and your pupils dilate, your 328 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: heart rate increases, your your airways open up, among a 329 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: lot of other things. But yeah, this is what gets 330 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: you into that one. Ideas have to come out of 331 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: my room right now. Yeah, so you got boosting energy, 332 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: decrease fatigue, and it enhances physical, cognitive, and motor performance. 333 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: It aids short term memory, problem solving, decision making, and concentration. 334 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 1: These are all great reasons to have a cup of coffee. 335 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: But the question is, is some of the psychological you mean, 336 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: like the Paucebo effect exactly where I say, all right, 337 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,959 Speaker 1: I'm no good till I have my morning cup, and 338 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: I'm just by believing that I'm no good till I 339 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: have my morning cup. Yeah, I mean, we we talked 340 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: about the power of the placebo. The placebo effect absolutely works. Um, 341 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: whatever kind of quack uh you know um medicine, you're 342 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: taking your magic being you're swallowing. That's a whole another story. 343 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: But the polcebo effect the ability to believe in something's 344 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: positive or negative effect in the in in some cases 345 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 1: you know, there's all no sebo thing to discuss um 346 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: that actually works, So just believing that it does something 347 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: can in certain cases have an effect you believe it. 348 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: So for instance, your heart rate, yes, it does increase. 349 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: But if you know that caffeine and coffee will help 350 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: you to better focus, are you more predisposed to really 351 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: engage in being focused? Um? So. There is a two 352 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: thousand eleven study at the University of East London where 353 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: a group of psychologists examine the effects of caffeine on 354 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: problem solving and emotional responses. And in a double blind study, 355 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: eight habitual coffee drinkers were given cups of caffeinated and 356 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: decaffinated coffees at random. So subjects who received caffeine but 357 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: they were told that they were drinking decaf did not 358 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: show an improved reaction time in the task that they 359 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: gave that the research group gave them, and likewise in 360 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: a measure of reward motivation and something called the card 361 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: arranging reward responsivity objectivity test another way of measuring this. 362 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 1: The participants who believe they had consumed coffee sorted the 363 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: cards more quickly than those who believe that they consumed decaf, 364 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: So no doubt there is in part a psychological component 365 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: of coffee. Yeah, and I guess it. You know, really 366 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: there has to be in anything you take. I mean, 367 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: like I think you were you. You spoke recently about 368 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: having an ice cream that was Chardonnay flavored. If I 369 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: remember pair popsicle, right, and let's be honest, there was 370 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 1: probably very small amount of alcohol, if any really, and 371 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: I could taste it, I'm telling well, yeah, okay, so 372 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 1: we should tell everybody I don't drink. So when I had, 373 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: when the reasoning hit my tongue, I was like, oh, 374 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: and so it brought back memories of having had reesling. 375 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: And after I finished that popsicle and I finished every 376 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: drop of it, um, I did feel a little bit loopy. 377 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: But then I wondered, yea, what extent is that the 378 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: poucebo effect? YEA, to what extent is it just your 379 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: mind saying, oh this this tastes like reasoning, and therefore 380 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: this is the reasoning effect. I feel, I feel lighter, 381 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: I feel a little a little happier, and maybe I 382 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: shouldn't drive a tractor exactly. Yeah, And I didn't drive 383 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 1: a tractor that day. Good, But it was on vacation, 384 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: and you're right, I was sort of primed, and you know, 385 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: it was the beach, and I was like, not a 386 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: care in the world. So yeah, the recling effect. So 387 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: over the years, there just have been a raft of 388 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: studies that extol the virtues of coffee, um, from the 389 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: nutrient and antioxidant content to the idea that it could 390 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: lower the risk of type two diabetes, some types of cancers. UM. 391 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: I think there was even one study that had a 392 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: ten percent increase in longevity. So we could spend hours 393 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: and hours on that, but I thought it we might 394 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: make a little bit more sense if we talked about 395 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,239 Speaker 1: some of the real pronounced effects of coffee. And I'm 396 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: talking about coffee in dementia, because animal experiments show that 397 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: caffeine may reshape the biochemical environment side our brains in 398 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: a way that could actually stave off dementia. And this 399 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: is a very big concern as we age, right, because 400 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: dementia seems to be one of those um illnesses that 401 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: seem to become more and more prevalent in our society. Well, 402 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: one of the two big trolls under the bridge when 403 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: it comes to aging and then I going to is 404 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: my body going to fail? Is my mind going to fail? 405 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: Or both trolls going to jump out and get me 406 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: exactly exactly. So, there's a experiment at the University of 407 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: Illinois at Urbana Champagne and mice were briefly starved of oxygen, 408 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: causing them to lose the ability to form memories. Half 409 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: of the mice received a dose of caffeine that was 410 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 1: equivalent to several cups of coffee. So that's on par 411 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: with what we would consume, right, and then after they 412 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: were reoxygenated, the caffeinated mice regained their ability to form 413 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: new memories faster than the uncafeated And these were these 414 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: were again coffee for mice, right like tiny little cups, 415 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: not like and little cafe tables. UM. So close examination 416 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: of the the animals brain dies, you showed that the caffeine 417 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 1: disrupted the action of a tendency which we talked about. UM. 418 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: It can be destructive, it turns out if it leaks 419 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: out when the cells are injured or under stress. This 420 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: is something that we've seen in dementia. So the escaped 421 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: adnazine can jump sir, a biochemical cascade leading to inflammation, 422 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: and that can disrupt the function of neurons and the 423 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: neuronal connections right and contribute to neurodegeneration. So we're talking 424 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: about dementia here, and we're talking about again that caffeine 425 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: binding to those adnazine receptors in stopping that in potentially dementia. 426 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: So in a set of humans, researchers from the University 427 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: of South Florida and the University of Miami tested the 428 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: blood levels of caffeine and older adults with mild cognitive 429 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: impairment or perhaps even the first glimmer of some serious forgetfulness, 430 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: which is usually a precursor of Alzheimer's, and then they 431 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 1: re evaluated reevaluated them two to four years later. So, 432 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: of course, what it was with the big deal with 433 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 1: all this, the participants with little or no caffeine circulating 434 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 1: their blood streams were far more likely to have progressed 435 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: to full blown Alzheimer's rather than those who blood indicated 436 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: that they had about three cups worth of coffee a day, 437 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: so in a sense that the use of coffee was 438 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: able to slow down the study approach of dementia and 439 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 1: or Alzheimer's. Yeah, so, I mean that's that's a great thing, right, 440 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 1: And like I said, there's a whole raft of studies 441 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: that we'll talk about the benefits of coffee, but these 442 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: are a couple of things that are very promising. And 443 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 1: I still feel though that coffee is emerging from its 444 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 1: shadow self. And that's really the studies that came out 445 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 1: in the early seventies and the eighties saying, oh, coffee 446 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: is awful. And the reason for this is because those 447 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 1: studies in the seventies, uh, they were talking. They were 448 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 1: looking at people who were both smoking and consuming coffee, 449 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: and at that time they didn't realize the implications of 450 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: smoking as much as we do now. And the coffee 451 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: and cigarettes went together great there. It's like PB and 452 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: J coffee and cigarettes. So they didn't take out those 453 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: participants who were smokers, and that definitely skewed some of 454 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: the results of the studies that they were looking at. 455 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: And edition they had the one very famous study in 456 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: which rats were giving something like a crazy amount of 457 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: milligrams of caffeine, which caused their offspring to have birth defects. Well, 458 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: the problem with that is that the amount of caffeine 459 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: they were given was not nearly on par with what 460 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: we consume as adults, or certainly like we're talking about them, 461 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 1: we're having the equivalent of so many cups exactly other experiment. 462 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: In this experiment, the rats were having, uh, the equivalent 463 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: of many, many, many many cups. Like just now toxic 464 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 1: level talked to the amount of caffeine. So they went back, 465 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: actually and they redid the study with the appropriate amount 466 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: of caffeine, and they found that their offspring were completely fine. 467 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: So I just wanted to mention that because I still 468 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: feel like coffee has that a bit of that around it. 469 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: Not to say that coffee can't be bad for you 470 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: if consumed in massive quantities, because it can be. Well, 471 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: I feel like coffee and red wine are both substances 472 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: that so many studies are done on their about their effects, 473 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: uh and you know, doing large part because they are 474 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: both consumed in such large quantities. And then when with 475 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: red wine you have the you know, the verious antioxidants 476 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 1: that that's sort of up the game for in your 477 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: research related to them. You kind of get blinders after 478 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: a while. You if you hear enough studies about why 479 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: you shoul drink coffee and why it's okay to drink 480 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: quite red wine, you just sort of, you know, check 481 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: it off in your mind where it's like, Okay, these 482 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: are good, I'll just keep doing these. But what happens 483 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: when you drink too much coffee, Well, you certainly become 484 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 1: addicted to it. Now, some people get caffeine headaches if 485 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: they have too much coffee. I've never suffered from this. Yeah, yeah, apparently, 486 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: And this is according to the American Psychiatric Association's UH 487 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. The Bible um Psychology, 488 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: some people can experience caffeine intoxication symptoms including restlessness, nervousness, excitement, zomnia, 489 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 1: flesh face, and gastro intestinal complaints. Well, to me, that's 490 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: kind of a noda, right, and specifically because of the 491 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,719 Speaker 1: coffee monk that we recently saw. Oh yes, what did 492 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: that coffee monks today? Julie? I think that it just 493 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: it's a brown coffee mug. And I think it said 494 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: coffee makes me poop. Yes, And this is the true 495 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: statement it's backed up by scientific research because, uh, there's 496 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: a nineties study titled Effect of Coffee on distal Colon function, 497 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: and the results suggests that drinking coffee can stimulate a 498 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: motor response of the distal colon in some normal people. So, um, 499 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,479 Speaker 1: I think most people can attest to this. And uh 500 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: and actually a stand up comedian, Hannibal Burris had a 501 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: great bit about this in his act. He was talking 502 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: about how he started, um, he you know, stantic me, 503 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: and then he gets a job riding for thirty Rock 504 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 1: and he'd never consume coffee before. And then he starts 505 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: drinking coffe because he's there in the office all the 506 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: other writers are drinking and he starts drinking it. And 507 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: then he's he's like freaking out. He's like, nobody told 508 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: me about all the pooping that was going to happen. 509 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: That suddenly I drink the coffee and I have to 510 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: run to the toilet. Um. And it's think most people 511 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: can at test that, Yes, you drink some coffee, and 512 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 1: it can it can really jump start the system. Your 513 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: mind gets excited, but so do the do other parts 514 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: of the anatomy. And uh, so you've got to run 515 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: for shelter. Well, and it's a diuretic, right, so you 516 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,959 Speaker 1: also have to urinate a lot more. In fact, another 517 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: thirty Rock thread here, I don't know if you've read 518 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: Bossy Pants. Yes, do you recall in the part that 519 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: said that that Tina fe is talking about being a 520 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: writer in the culture of writing comedy for TV that 521 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: she noticed that a lot of her male co workers 522 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: had jars Oh yeah, you're in in their office, which 523 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: ended up inspiring a little bit at one point in 524 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: the show where one of the writers, Frank has the 525 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: sun tea and the urine on the test. Well, I know, 526 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: I'm I feel like it's a it's a it's a 527 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: net benefit. It's net net actually, uh if not net 528 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: net net for me because I drink a lot of 529 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: coffee when I'm in the workplace or working, and even 530 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: in a coffee shop of course, and so I end 531 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: up having to urinate a lot. So that means I'm 532 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: I'm getting out of my seat a lot, I'm walking around, 533 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: so I'm getting extra exercise. Uh. So that's at least 534 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: two nets. I don't know what the third one is. 535 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: So I guess what you're saying is that if we 536 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: didn't have an open office concept here at work, and 537 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: we had walls that you might have jars in your office. 538 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think I would do that, 539 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: but I certainly think we have some coworkers who might 540 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: do it. Absolutely. Yeah. All right, um, so what else 541 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: about caffeine and coffee can we say? Well? The creativity 542 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: element I thought was particularly interesting, And this comes in 543 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: large part from a recent New Yorker article titled how 544 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: Caffeine short circuits creativity, And it's it's really really interesting. 545 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: The idea puts this article looks forward because we generally 546 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: come to accept this idea that coffee is good for creativity. 547 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: We talked about the you know, the idea that when 548 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: we stopped drinking beer and we started drinking coffee, then 549 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: suddenly all this creativity is bounding about and things are 550 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: getting done with the culture we're talking about. You'd have 551 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,239 Speaker 1: that cup of coffee and suddenly you have ideas for 552 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: the day about what's going to happen. Um. And we've 553 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,479 Speaker 1: discussed the things that it does, you know, increase youral firing, 554 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: increased focus. But is this the article points out one 555 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: of the real one of the hallmarks of creativity is 556 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: of course, to have a wandering, unfocused mind. To take 557 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: this concept and pair it with this one, to be 558 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: able to stare out the window and think, think, you know, 559 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: what have what have? What have dinosaurs had for? Or 560 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: what if a pirate had a loose sight leg and 561 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: used it as an aquarium. Yes, it's exactly so we 562 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: we have all these random ideas that might pop up. 563 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: And this is a lot of what it is to 564 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: be creative. But if you were caffeinated to the gills 565 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: and you're you're focused on one task, then you're focused 566 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: on one task and you're not gonna have all these 567 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: random inspirations that are coming to you. Yeah, this novel 568 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: association sens that happen when we daydream. And I recall 569 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: that we did an episode in which we saw a 570 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: study in which, uh, something like our waking hours are 571 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: dedicated to daydreaming. So that obviously helps us tease out 572 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: a lot of problems and comment things in a different 573 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: angle and be extremely creative because again we're making those 574 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: novel associations. But if you are caffeinated all day long, 575 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: then the writer of this article, Maria Kunakova, says, hey, 576 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: you could be actually stripping yourself of creativity. Yeah, and 577 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: don't have that mind wander time. Not, your mind's not wandering. 578 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: And it can also have an effect on sleep, and 579 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: studies have shown that that sleep is important for creative thinking. 580 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: Two thousand nine study in fact, show that people who 581 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: experienced REM sleep performed better on two tests of creative 582 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: thinking than those who simply rested or napped without entering 583 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: the REM cycle. So I found this. Of course, this 584 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,239 Speaker 1: made me sort of think a lot about my own 585 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: creative processes, in my own consumption of daffine. I had 586 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: that that sort of panic moment where I was like, 587 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: oh goodness, maybe I've got to stop drinking coffee if 588 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: it's gonna interfer with my creativity. But I think what 589 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: the difference here is, And maybe you know, it's gonna 590 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: vary with each individual mind, But I feel like I 591 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: definitely have the type of mind that can make those 592 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: those connections, Like I can you know, wonder about a 593 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: pirate with a loose sight leg or a hairy dinosaur. 594 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: But then but it's one thing anybody can sent around 595 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: and just dream off a whole bunch of crazy stuff. 596 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: But but can you then focus on it and do 597 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,719 Speaker 1: something with it. So I feel like that's where I 598 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: need the caffeine. It's it's one thing for me to think, 599 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: what have I blogged about the possible science behind this, 600 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: like weird worm monster I read about, You know, it's 601 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: one thing to think about that, but I need the 602 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: coffee to focus on it and to actually do it. 603 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: So your natural state is to mind flander. Yeah, I 604 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: think if I think caffeine, I'm not. You know, I 605 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: don't want to give caffeine too much credit because it's 606 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: not like if I quit drinking coffee, I would just 607 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: be a complete disaster. I mean I would because for 608 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: a little bit, because I'd get a headache that would 609 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: make me want to curse God and die. But beyond that, 610 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: and I'm not saying it's vital to my existence, but 611 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: I do feel like it helps me focus on realizing 612 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: some of the ideas that I get with my wandering mind. Well, 613 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: I put this idea um in front of Holly Fry 614 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: of history stuff, and Holly Fry, if you guys don't know, 615 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: she's extremely creative and she is doing things at all 616 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: hours of creativity like she's just I mean, she's stitching 617 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: together things, she's making I don't know, thumb cozies. If 618 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: she has two minutes, you know, to spare a thumb cozy, 619 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: just all of a sudden poof, it's there. Um, she's 620 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: extremely productive, and so she drinks a ton of coffee, 621 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: and so I put this idea forward to her, and 622 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: then she looked at me, like, what are you talking about? Like, 623 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,719 Speaker 1: I drink coffee at eleven o'clock at night helps me 624 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: to continue with all the projects that I have buzzing 625 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: around in my mind. And then I looked at her fitbit, 626 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: this bracelet that tracks her sleep and in all the 627 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: steps that she takes a cyborg, she's cyborg in addition 628 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: to all this, and I noticed that she had made 629 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: um this rhymestone sleeve for it, because the fitbit itself 630 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: wasn't pretty enough, and the fit that is sitting there 631 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: sparkling underneath the rhyme stones. And I thought, no, I 632 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: don't think that caffeine is taking away from her creativity. Yeah, well, 633 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: I think it ultimately that the the message from this 634 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: study maybe that it's going to vary with the individual, 635 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: and that you should maybe consider not drinking coffee all 636 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: the time. You try to try see what it's like 637 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 1: without it, it's it's kind of like in the same 638 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: way that coffee has has some similarities to other um, 639 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,919 Speaker 1: psychoactive chemicals and and and drugs and things that alter 640 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: our perception of reality or interface with reality. It's sometimes 641 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: good to treat them, or often I guess you could 642 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: say it's generally good to see those things as like 643 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: a telescope or a microscope, something that adds new perspective 644 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 1: to life. But isn't the only way that you interact 645 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: with it or glimpse it, right, And you have to 646 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: remember to you that coffee is going to increase your 647 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: performance and thinks and sort of like wrote things that 648 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: you do over and over again. It's not necessarily going 649 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: to make you master a new skill. Um. It might 650 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: give you a little bit more energy for that skill, 651 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean that you're going to become the 652 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: conqueror of that UM. So it was really good for 653 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: for bringing everything together, as you say, to a point, UM, 654 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: I should add there's another thing that I do that 655 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: I have found that coffee is not good for me, 656 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: and that is sometimes to relax. I enjoy painting miniatures, 657 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,280 Speaker 1: and I've found that if I do it while drinking 658 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: coffee or right after I drink coffee. I'm just my 659 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: my my hands are too unsteady. I don't have really 660 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: steady hands anyway. And if I have the coffee, then 661 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,839 Speaker 1: it's it's it's not good. Well see And and that 662 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: ought to be a zen like activity anyway, right where 663 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: you don't need to be in the coffee realm exactly 664 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 1: because you're just doing the one thing. Um. I would 665 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: be very interested to hear from people about how coffee 666 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: affects them. Is I feel like some people are really 667 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: sensitive to caffeine while others can just you know, drink 668 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 1: it by the gallons. Yeah, And I've known people like 669 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: my my friend Becky uh once claimed that she had 670 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: some espresso chocolate at night and was up all night afterwards. See. 671 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: And then you know as some of the psychosomatic or 672 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: is that really like, is your system that sensitive? I 673 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 1: believe that some people really are that sensitive to it. 674 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: All right, Well, on that note, let's call over the 675 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: robot and see what kind of listener mail we have. 676 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: Believe this one is another one has to do with 677 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 1: the sensory deprivation tanks. We've received a lot of cool 678 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,879 Speaker 1: comments on this episode so far these episodes. By the way, UH, 679 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: just a little tip if you are going to go 680 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: into a sensory deprivation tank, do not drink caffeine beforehand. Yes, yeah, 681 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: that's not a good idea. Yeah, for a few different reasons. 682 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 1: So this one comes to us from Seth. Seth writes, 683 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 1: since says Hi, Julian Robert, I recently finished it your 684 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 1: episode on sensory deprivation tanks and wanted to write in 685 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 1: with my story. During my sen year at year at college, 686 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: I UH interned at a neurofeedback clinic specializing in a 687 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: d h D behavior modification therapy. One of the benefits 688 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: of working at the clinic was the on site sensory 689 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 1: deprivation chamber that we call the float tank. I got 690 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: in the float tank as much as I could during 691 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: that year, somewhere in the neighborhood of fifty to sixty times. 692 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,280 Speaker 1: It was fascinating. Um my experience with it was quite positive. 693 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 1: The first time I got in, I was nervous and 694 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: did not really relax or have any experiences. Apparently this 695 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 1: was normal. However, each subsequent visit resulted in more intense 696 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 1: experiences and increased time spent in the tank. I've tried 697 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 1: to describe my experiences to others and have always fallen short. 698 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: The closest that I come can come to describe it 699 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: is that it feels like deep meditation with the benefits 700 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: of a power cat nap. I would emerge from the 701 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: float tank after an hour and feel as if I 702 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: had slept for three or four hours. I never had 703 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 1: out of body experiences, but I did feel an overwhelming 704 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 1: sense of calm and understanding. As a side note, the 705 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: chief clinician at the clinic would sleep for only five 706 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 1: hours a day, and he would do so in the 707 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:05,240 Speaker 1: float tank. He stated that he felt yes, he stated 708 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: that he felt as if he had slept twelve hours afterwards. 709 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 1: So some advice on your future visits or visits to 710 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: the float tank. Visited several times to get a good 711 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 1: real sense of it. Anxiety about it is normal as 712 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 1: it is abnormal constructed is it is an abnormal constructed experience, 713 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: and it is not found in nature that we evolved in. 714 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,760 Speaker 1: But it is very enlightening. Thank you for the awesome show. 715 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: Seth Wow. Five hours in the tank. That was that 716 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,919 Speaker 1: was really impressive. Whenever at that because I'm also trying 717 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 1: to picture this dude, he only sleeps in a in 718 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: a sensory deprivation tank and only does so like five 719 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 1: to six hours a night. Been going to put this 720 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 1: out there that he must not have a close significant 721 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,840 Speaker 1: other unless well maybe maybe they sleep together, or maybe 722 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: they exist solely in the astral plane. That's how beautiful. 723 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 1: That's beautiful. But well, I can see now know why 724 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,439 Speaker 1: those five hours would would bear out something that felt 725 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 1: like twelve hours, because it is the most relaxing thing 726 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 1: that I've ever done in my life. So I can't 727 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 1: imagine sleeping through the evening in one of those cool 728 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: All right, Steth, Well, thanks for right man. 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