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Speaker 1: The one Bills Live presented by Calllighta Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we are on a Wednesday, Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you players not back on the practice

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Speaker 2: field yet. They're getting an extra day with it being

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Speaker 2: So they will return to the practice field tomorrow and

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Speaker 2: kind of conduct their regular week from there. Thursday is

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Speaker 2: essentially Wednesday, Friday is essentially Thursday, and Saturday is the

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Speaker 2: Friday practice, So that's how they're going to move through

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Speaker 2: the rest of this week. So no practice updates to

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Speaker 2: with that in mind, there are other things that we

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Speaker 2: are here to discuss with you today, and we'll get

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Speaker 2: to those in just a little bit, but we have

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Speaker 2: an anniversary to celebrate first that it's the first thing

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Speaker 2: on this date. In nineteen eighty six, one Steve Tasker

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Speaker 2: was claimed off of waivers by the Houston from the

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Speaker 2: Houston Oilers by the Buffalo Bills, and the rest, as

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Speaker 2: they say, is history. And we have a photo of

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Speaker 2: mister tasker. That appeared in the paper back in nineteen

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Speaker 2: eighty six. And you want to talk about ahead of lettuce,

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Speaker 2: Holy mackerel, Look at that salad on top of that dome.

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Speaker 1: A good looking man right there. That is white photo.

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Speaker 2: That is that is something man, Holy mackerel. Those were

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Speaker 2: the days to click that with a hedge trimmer? How

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Speaker 2: did you cut that weed whacker? Yeah, that's a I

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Speaker 2: never had that much hair ever.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, ever walked into the walked into the first

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Speaker 3: walked into the first team meeting, and there were five

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Speaker 3: future Hall of famers in there, and I am still

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Speaker 3: cashing that lottery ticket.

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Speaker 2: There you go, man, that crew. And now I and

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Speaker 2: you know, looking at this photo, Steve, I now say,

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Speaker 2: I now understand why you say I look like a

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Speaker 2: twelve year old. Yeah, I mean that's that's right out

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Speaker 2: of a middle school photos. That's right out of middle

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Speaker 1: That's right out of a sixth or seventh grade yearbook.

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Speaker 1: Let mean, look at it.

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Speaker 2: That is fantastic.

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Speaker 1: That's way it goes.

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Speaker 2: That's good stuff.

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Speaker 1: A long time ago, thirty seven years ago.

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Speaker 2: That's remarkable.

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Speaker 1: Eighty six to two thousand and twenty three. Goodness, gracious.

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Speaker 2: Here's a question that I think people might wonder, because

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Speaker 2: I do. Do you think you would have had the

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Speaker 2: same special teams career in Houston had you stayed that

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Speaker 2: you had in Buffalo, just knowing how progressive Bruce de

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Speaker 2: Haven was and everything. Do you I know Jerry Glanville

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Speaker 2: was big on special teams too, Do you think you

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Speaker 2: would have had the same special teams career?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I don't know. It might have.

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Speaker 3: There's so many things that you consider about it, because

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Speaker 3: I think I would have been. It would have been

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Speaker 3: a vastly different career. I think, for better or for worse,

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Speaker 3: I don't know which. But I certainly wouldn't change anything

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Speaker 1: It was. It was a blasting I think.

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Speaker 2: Had you ever thought about that, like, I mean, have

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Speaker 3: The thirty one to they were the thirty eight to

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Speaker 3: thirty right or was it forty one thirty eight comeback game?

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Speaker 4: You know, So.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't I don't go there very

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Speaker 3: So it was, uh, man, it's a light. It was

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Speaker 3: Though it's been longer then then. I was alive before

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Speaker 1: I was twenty four, maybe twenty yeah, twenty four I

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Speaker 3: You go, a lot of fun in between, that's for sure,

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Speaker 2: Really cool, cool, Thanks for that.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, well, you know, we dress it up here

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Speaker 2: one weekend. Let's go around the NFL here because there

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Speaker 2: is some stuff going on that's that's kind of interesting.

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Speaker 2: Some of it pertains to the AFC East. Other news

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Speaker 2: NFL is presented by Kalida Health, the official healthcare system

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Speaker 2: of the Buffalo Bills. The Patriots. Okay, they're playing in

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Speaker 2: Germany this week. They got the Colts, and we already

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Speaker 2: told you about the Boston Globe report that if they

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Speaker 2: don't come back with a victory, Bill Belichick, Boston, according

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Speaker 2: to the Boston Globe, could be on thin ice and

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Speaker 2: may not make it to the end of the season.

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Speaker 2: As head coach. I tend to doubt that, But stranger

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Speaker 2: already know they lost Kendrick Bourne to a season ending injury,

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Speaker 2: That was it for JC and the LA Chargers organization. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: It's a million miles away plus and you talk about

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Speaker 3: I think the two dots that are connected, or Robert

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Speaker 3: I think they knew they were going to struggle this year.

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Speaker 3: They knew Matt was Mac was limited. They brought Bill

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Speaker 2: Down in Tennessee, head coach Mike Vrabel has done what

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Speaker 2: so he's going to keep playing. And I totally understand why.

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Speaker 1: I do too.

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Speaker 3: I liked what I saw from him in the times

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Speaker 1: But he came in this game.

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Speaker 1: I think, I mean.

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Speaker 2: There are some limitations, Tommy DeVito.

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Speaker 1: That's all they did. Yeah, and people, the.

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Speaker 2: And the only guy that could provide points was the

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Speaker 3: Now Barkley, I'm not ye, Matt Barkley, not Saquon. Matt

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Speaker 3: Barkley can do something in that offense. It's it's dabos offense.

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Speaker 3: He knows it turn you. He can be you know,

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Speaker 2: You would like to think you would like.

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Speaker 3: Because Tommy DeVito horrible, tell us how he really feels, dude, I.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing I'm I've always been a big team believer, right,

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Speaker 3: You're the rest of it can't work unless your quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: Yes, we have witnessed this first.

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Speaker 2: That's oh, I got a PhD in that. Right.

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Speaker 3: We're like we have a tattooed on our forehead here

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Speaker 3: is so if you're the if you're the Giants, you

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Speaker 1: I know Matt.

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Speaker 3: You know he doesn't have a he doesn't got a

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Speaker 1: He's a leader. Dude's rally to him.

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Speaker 3: The rest the rest of it can't work if that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's probably that was I was gonna say,

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Speaker 2: With Tommy DeVito, it's predictable and it's barely functional, right.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you're going into a game with that.

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Speaker 3: Even even on a macro level, it's not unpredictable enough.

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Speaker 3: In my opinion, you got it, and I would concur you. Yeah, so, man,

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Speaker 3: I you know the Giant.

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Speaker 2: The Cowboys. Meanwhile, who the Giants will be facing this weekend,

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Speaker 2: oh okay, multiple suspensions and then he got it was

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Speaker 2: So the only guy that's that's got him beat is

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Yeah, not now,

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Speaker 2: you don't know who you're gonna lose down the stretch,

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Speaker 3: Kind of shape he's in, they'll probably evaluate him on.

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Speaker 2: Ye, they'll kick the tires on him the next six.

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Speaker 3: He's a matchup problem for most corners. He's way way bigger.

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Speaker 3: And you know, even if it's just a red zone

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Speaker 2: Know, a high throw and catch it. Josh Gordon, that's it.

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Speaker 2: I came to me. The rolodex was spinning up there.

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Speaker 2: I finally got to.

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Speaker 3: The G's I asked him the rundown if somebody could

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Speaker 2: We found it already in my brain. It's nice to

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Speaker 2: Uh cool story here we know the Josh Jobs story

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Speaker 2: last week cut by Arizona, picked up by the Vikings

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Speaker 2: of the week. How about that?

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Speaker 1: You gotta do it. And I'll say this too. That

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Speaker 3: This is a huge bullet in the ambunition of the

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Speaker 3: Look to your left, read the safe that he was

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Speaker 3: because they've been there the whole season. Dobbs didn't know anything,

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Speaker 1: That kind of stuff. It worked.

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Speaker 2: It was amazing.

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Speaker 1: It worked.

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Speaker 3: he just says he the only thing he knew was

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Speaker 3: the cadence. They had to teach him the cadence. Crazy

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Speaker 3: got the cadence. Grab the ball, look to the side.

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Speaker 3: He told you me to look for find that guy

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Speaker 3: and if it's there, hit it. If it's not, go backside,

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Speaker 3: that is unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a heck of a performance that that is.

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Speaker 2: To me, that's that's a more impressive performance than what CJ.

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Speaker 2: great Stroud's off and running. I mean he's probably going

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Speaker 2: to be the runaway rookie of the year, right. But

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Speaker 2: Dobb's doing that in four days. That's it. That's the

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Speaker 2: winner for me. I don't care that he only threw

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Speaker 2: for one hundred and fifty eight yards. I mean he

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Speaker 2: got it done well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the numbers are the numbers are irrelevant. But you know,

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Speaker 3: the head coach, Kevin O'Connell, kudos to him. Man, he's

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Speaker 3: a former quarterback. Guys, Listen, that's why those guys get

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Speaker 3: those jobs.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 3: They know the numbers, they know what they're doing, and

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Speaker 3: they know why. You know, and and they are and

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Speaker 3: I'll say this too, it's no fun and this week

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Speaker 3: is exact illustration of it. It's no fun to be

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Speaker 3: a coordinator with that unless you're unless your team's winning.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they are constantly under the microscopte.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Ken Dorsey here, Matt Canada and Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 3: all these eyes, you know, and if it's you know,

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Speaker 3: Mike McDaniel in Miami, Kyle Shanahan, and how.

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Speaker 2: Come you all scarred fourteen points against the Chiefs?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Kafka in New York.

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Speaker 3: For the Giants, they go in there last year, they

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Speaker 3: get to the playoffs, they're all geniuses. Then all those

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Speaker 3: you know, the roster changes and now those guys who

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Speaker 3: were geniuses last year are like people are like going, no,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if they're going to survive this. You know, yeah,

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Speaker 3: they all took it's a fickle. It's a fickle, like

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Speaker 3: they took dumb pills all of a sudden. It's like not,

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Speaker 3: that's not how it works, right.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Let's discuss with you though the topic of the day,

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Speaker 2: and it does concern Buffalo's offense. We want to know

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Speaker 2: what wrinkle would you like to see added to the

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Speaker 2: Bills offense. Uh, so you can let us know what

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Speaker 2: you think could be best to cure the Bills offense

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Speaker 2: of some of its some of its ills, shall we say,

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Speaker 2: where they fall into a lull, or maybe they don't

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Speaker 2: get off to a great start, or have trouble kicking

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Speaker 2: it into rhythm. So what wrinkle do you want to

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Speaker 2: see more of in the Bill's offense going forward? Eight

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Speaker 2: oh three oh five point fifty one eight eight eight

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Speaker 2: five point fifty two, five fifty those are the numbers.

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Speaker 2: Get on board, got open lines for you, so feel

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Speaker 2: free to chime in there. If you can't get to

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Speaker 2: a phone or don't have time to get to a

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Speaker 2: phone because you're at work, you can hit us up

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Speaker 2: on the tweet sheet as well at one Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: And you know what, Steve, I'm gonna I'm gonna switch

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Speaker 2: switch gears here instead of going to the phones. You

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Speaker 2: know what we're gonna do. We're gonna do the tweet

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Speaker 2: sheet first. How about that? We're we're living on the

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Speaker 2: edge here. No ja tweet tweet sheeet is brought to

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Speaker 2: you by Corgan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company

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Speaker 2: of the Buffalo Bills, and Giraldo says, scheming people open

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Speaker 2: every pass looks like Josh Allen needs to lace it

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Speaker 2: into a tight spot.

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Speaker 1: We did.

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Speaker 2: We talked to dan Orlowski about this yesterday, Steve, and

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Speaker 2: it's his opinion based on what he sees, and it

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Speaker 2: is a trained eye. Let's not make any mistake about that.

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Speaker 2: Twelve years as an NFL quarterback, he believes more often

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Speaker 2: than not, it is on the players to win their

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Speaker 2: matchup for the offense to function and execute at a

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Speaker 2: high level, rather than the scheme scheming guys into advantageous

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Speaker 2: positions to make plays. Now, he did say and caution

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Speaker 2: Bill's aren't the only team that appear to have that approach.

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Speaker 2: There are others in the league that do the same thing.

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Speaker 2: But I understand where Heraldo's coming from because we said

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Speaker 2: this about this offense last year. In the second half,

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Speaker 2: everything looked like a heavy lift. It didn't look easy

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Speaker 2: as it had in previous seasons. And I think Bill's

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Speaker 2: fans are fearful that we're kind of in that same

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Speaker 2: spot here, and I think that's why they're eager to offer.

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Speaker 3: I think too, you got to you gotta know that

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Speaker 3: the coaching staff sees everything that we see, and not

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Speaker 3: only do they see it, they know the reasons why.

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Speaker 3: And I also think they're splitting at them. Yeah, they're

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Speaker 3: they grinded down to its finest minutia. And I think

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Speaker 3: there's a thought and I don't think there's a thought

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Speaker 3: I think this is my thought, I and I get

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Speaker 3: it my the Bengals had to climb back into it,

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Speaker 3: and they're hitting on all cylinders and they look good

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Speaker 3: doing and the Bills took them down to the wire.

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Speaker 1: And and you know, it was a nice game.

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Speaker 3: Even though the Bill, you know, Bills fans aren't very

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Speaker 3: happy about the about the outcome.

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Speaker 1: It was a it was a heck of a game.

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Speaker 1: I just think there's.

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Speaker 3: Something to eighteen weeks of a long NFL season where

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Speaker 3: you've got a lot going on, and you know, you

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Speaker 3: think about it, the Bills on the road in Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: gave the Bengals a better run for it than the

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Speaker 3: Niners did at home in their building.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just the way it is the week to

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Speaker 1: week league.

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Speaker 3: And I think there's something to be said for getting

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Speaker 3: it and getting out to a fast start like the

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Speaker 3: Bills did weeks two through four. Let's face and remember

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Speaker 3: they were like they were this rocket ship.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think it did.

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Speaker 3: Look and I think you go through this these cycles

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Speaker 3: somewhere because there's some teams that you know, there's rare

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Speaker 3: that a team does that every week in the NFL. Now,

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of there's winning streaks, for sure. The

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Speaker 3: Bills have had their share of them.

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Speaker 2: Bengals have won four in a row now, So.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking, you got to it.

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Speaker 3: These coaching staffs, with injuries and all the all the

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Speaker 3: moving parts, they got to juggle and keep in the

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Speaker 3: other They can't do it the same way every week

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Speaker 3: because of the opponent and or the injuries you've got

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Speaker 3: and or the you know whatever, the matchups you got

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Speaker 3: to use. I just think there's something to be said for,

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Speaker 3: you know, you got to hit it at the right

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Speaker 3: time for the you know, and play your best when

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Speaker 3: you need it. I'm not saying it's fun to go

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Speaker 3: out there trying to do that every week. I'm just

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Speaker 3: saying that there gets to a point where they got

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Speaker 3: to they got to sort through some things to find

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Speaker 3: out what's gonna work on a week to week basis.

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Speaker 3: Who can they depend on and who can they depend

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Speaker 3: on this week, not like the guys they've depended on

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Speaker 3: last week, because it's different because of the different personnel

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Speaker 3: the defense has, you know, all that stuff, and they

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Speaker 3: try and stay up on it like that. I just

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Speaker 3: think there's a lot in the fact that it's a

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Speaker 3: long season, all these teams go through a spot where

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Speaker 3: they're like, oh, they're not playing too good right now.

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Speaker 3: Niners have lost three straight and they were juggernaut early.

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Speaker 3: The Bills were juggernaut, or they were weeks two through four,

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Speaker 3: they were there, that's it, man, it's over.

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Speaker 1: Let's go h And we said it. Then it's like

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Speaker 1: that's a long season, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's uh. We're gonna take a break here because

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Speaker 2: we are up against the break so we can give

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Speaker 2: some time to the people waiting at eight oh three

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Speaker 2: oh five fifty. So if you're holding there, stay where

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Speaker 2: you are. We'll get to you when we return. As

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Speaker 2: we are asking you today, what wrinkle do you want

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Speaker 2: to see more of in the Bills offense? Going forward?

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Speaker 2: Eight three five point fifty. We're back to your phone

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Speaker 2: calls when we return here on one Bill's Live, presented

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Speaker 2: by Collid of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. This week's

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Speaker 2: game against the Broncos is presented by Independent Health Independent Health.

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Speaker 2: You deserve the red Shirt treatment, tomag a discussion today,

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Speaker 2: what wrinkle do you want to see more of in

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Speaker 2: the Bills offense? Going forward? Right to the phones we

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Speaker 2: go where we have people waiting patiently and to Tom

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Speaker 2: in Buffalo to lead us off. What do you got

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Speaker 2: for us? Tom?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, thank you for taking my call.

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Speaker 9: I was just thinking, you know, if they're going to

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Speaker 9: work in Leonard Fournott on Monday night.

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Speaker 2: It's a good question, Tom. I'll tell you what Leonard

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Speaker 2: Fournette told us last week. He said the passing game

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Speaker 2: concepts in this offense are completely new to him. He's

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Speaker 2: never seen anything like them before in his career. And

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Speaker 2: he was then asked, how long do you think it

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Speaker 2: is before you have that mastered? And he said two

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Speaker 2: to four weeks, So we'll see. If he's on the

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Speaker 2: quicker end of that schedule, it'll be two weeks by

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Speaker 2: the end of this week. If he's on the longer

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Speaker 2: end of that schedule, we might still be waiting. So

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Speaker 2: I think it's a major wait and see. Tom. That

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Speaker 2: doesn't mean they don't want to. I think they do.

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Speaker 2: But he said himself it is going to take him

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Speaker 2: a little bit of time.

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Speaker 3: I think it comes down to his mental preparedness, you know,

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Speaker 3: and how much of that he can absorb, if they

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Speaker 3: can get him into a game and get him through

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Speaker 3: a game, and what the things that he can do

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Speaker 3: he can do well, or he really understands him and

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Speaker 3: his menu is big enough.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they'll let him on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there is a way you can still

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Speaker 2: get him on the field. You can utilize him only

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Speaker 2: in a package of plays. So maybe he's only got

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Speaker 2: to know ten twelve plays inside and out, and you

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Speaker 2: bring him on the field and utilize him in that fashion.

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Speaker 2: That's one way around waiting on him to understand the

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Speaker 2: full volume, either of a game plan or of the

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Speaker 2: playbook in general. So there are ways around it.

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Speaker 1: It could happen, Yeah, I could.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing when a player comes in like this,

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Speaker 3: largely the ability to absorb all that stuff is on

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Speaker 3: him because the coaching staff has got I mean, they've

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Speaker 3: got a game plan, and they got the guys that

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Speaker 3: are actually gonna play for sure. They got to those

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Speaker 3: guys to worry about. So they can't really go back

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Speaker 3: to square one in training camp and start acclimating a guy.

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Speaker 3: Now they have they have ways to get the guy up. Yeah, sure, but.

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Speaker 1: It's it's largely on the player to do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go back to the phones into Anthony on

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Speaker 2: a cell. What do you offerus, Anthony?

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Speaker 7: How you doing guys? Good, guys. I think Doughton needs

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Speaker 7: to get games Cooking more involved in his.

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Speaker 2: Offense as a as a pass catcher. Are you saying

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Speaker 2: a runner or both?

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Speaker 4: Both?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I really I really like him out in space a lot.

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Speaker 2: I think he's one of your two most dynamic athletes

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Speaker 2: on offense, Diggs obviously being the other. Those are your

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Speaker 2: two dynamic as your two most dynamic athletes.

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Speaker 1: What's your and is he still there?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I was gonna say, you know, how many are

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Speaker 3: what's the optimal number of touches? He had four targets

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Speaker 3: in the run game last week for four catches.

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Speaker 1: That was great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to see him used, you know, as

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Speaker 2: a checkdown option more or as a you know something

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Speaker 2: that the Broncos do a lot.

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Speaker 1: They use.

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Speaker 2: They use a play action checkdown pass game, which is

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Speaker 2: kind of interesting, like, hey, it's not open deep, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna check it down to a back here off of

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Speaker 2: play action. You know, I think there's yards to be

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Speaker 2: gained there, especially in open space, and we know cook

657
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 2: is capable of making somebody miss, so you know you

658
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 2: can find yards that way, do it? I mean, this

659
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 2: guy's second on the team and yards after the catch

660
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 2: this season behind Stefan Diggs.

661
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: So he had ten total touches last week.

662
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's got to be close to fifteen,

663
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Speaker 2: maybe eighteen. All right, Yeah, okay, I think he I

664
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Speaker 2: think he would give you production. I really do.

665
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the only Latavious Murray had two carries, but

666
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 3: Cook had six, and of course Josh had eight, but

667
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 3: most you know, most of those were scrambles.

668
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

669
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Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't have a problem with that. They've

670
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Speaker 3: got to get into a spot where and I don't

671
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Speaker 3: I don't have a problem whether the ten if you're

672
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Speaker 3: talking about maybe ten catches or fifteen touches, fifteen touches,

673
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Speaker 3: I don't care if if it's ten receptions.

674
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Speaker 1: You know, I think.

675
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Speaker 3: Somehow, some way, just get him the ball, whether he

676
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Speaker 3: handed to him or not, I don't care. If it's

677
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Speaker 3: runner pass to Dave and Ken Moore next.

678
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Speaker 2: What do you got Dave?

679
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Speaker 7: Hey, guys, I love your show.

680
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Speaker 1: Thanks.

681
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Speaker 7: My My wrinkle is I love to see Josh calls

682
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 7: on place not to no huddle. Just get him in

683
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Speaker 7: the you know, just run a regular offense, don't wait

684
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Speaker 7: for the call from Dorsey, just speed and keep going.

685
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 7: Well to spice things up a little bit. Maybe Josh

686
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 7: knows something that Dorsey can't see. I know that's that's

687
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 7: not really you know, maybe that's not really right. But

688
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 7: let Josh run the game at his speed, not somebody

689
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Speaker 7: else's speed.

690
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Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing, and I get it day that's it.

691
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Speaker 3: It's good because I that's one of the things that

692
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 3: have made a lot of quarterbacks well in decades past.

693
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 3: Nobody does it anymore, really, Uh, Peyton Manning was probably

694
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Speaker 3: the last guy that did it, and certainly quarterbacks do

695
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 3: it at some point in situationally, but I think to

696
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 3: go into a game and do it all your own.

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Speaker 1: Here's one thing. You got to know.

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Speaker 3: These plays that they run and like if the if

699
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Speaker 3: the coordinators up there and he's gonna call a play,

700
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Speaker 3: it it's not from some arbitrary list that the quarterback

701
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 3: hasn't thought about or talked about.

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Speaker 8: It.

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Speaker 3: If Dorsey like, for for instance, particularly these the first

704
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 3: because you can always kind of script that first drive.

705
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Speaker 3: Man Josh knows could go down the list and he

706
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Speaker 3: could tell you what plays are gonna be called anyway

707
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 3: those are and they've had conversations this is why we're

708
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 3: gonna call this play. This is why we're gonna call

709
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,439
Speaker 3: this play. And if we get in and the further

710
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 3: down the list you go, you say, hey, if this

711
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 3: is a first and ten play, or if this is

712
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 3: a second and five play, and we're gonna talk about

713
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Speaker 3: and so the plays that you're saying Josh should call himself,

714
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 3: he already knows. He's like, yeah, let's do that well.

715
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Speaker 2: And they're very RPO centric too, so he's got two

716
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 2: plays to choose from almost every play when they're running those.

717
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 3: Right, it's one play and he has a choice to

718
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:39,919
Speaker 3: make during the play. Yeah, But the point is Josh

719
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 3: might be would call you. I don't think there'd be

720
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Speaker 3: a vast difference, if at any difference at all, in

721
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Speaker 3: Josh's play calling, then there is in ten Ken Dorsey's

722
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Speaker 3: because they think these things out and to strategize about

723
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Speaker 3: what this play means to the defense, what they're gonna see,

724
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 3: and how we're gonna use that knowledge against them later

725
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 3: on in the game. All of that stuff is in

726
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 3: the recipe book. So now deeper in you get into

727
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 3: the game, like later on, and you've had some success

728
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 3: doing this and that and the other, then Josh, believe me,

729
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 3: Josh is on the phone with Dorsey between plays or

730
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 3: they're talking and saying, listen, I want to do more

731
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Speaker 3: of this because we're getting into this situation and thirty

732
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 3: seven on their team doesn't know what he's doing. He

733
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Speaker 3: can't cover any of the guys we've got on the field,

734
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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna find him right. That kind of thing,

735
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 3: and that's that's what playing quarterback is about. That's what

736
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Speaker 3: being an offensive coordinator is about. So I get the

737
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,959
Speaker 3: idea that just to spice things up, just to change something.

738
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Speaker 3: I know everybody wants to shake it up a little bit,

739
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 3: just get a little spark that makes the thing burn.

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Speaker 1: Baby, let's go.

741
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Speaker 3: And maybe it would if Josh if they went a

742
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 3: little faster. But Josh called on the plays his own

743
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 3: plays rather than Ken Dorsey. Isn't gonna mean anything to

744
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 3: the other ten guys in the offense. They're just gonna

745
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 3: listen to Josh call it because he calls every play well,

746
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 3: he's calling it or right, So it's not gonna mean

747
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 3: anything to anybody else.

748
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Speaker 1: And I don't know what that would change in that respect.

749
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 2: Back to the phones and to Butcher on the east side,

750
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 2: what do you got for us Butcher.

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Speaker 4: My guys, my guys, thanks so much for taking my call.

752
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 4: I really I have something I want to say. But

753
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 4: since this gentleman who called just before me made a

754
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 4: point about Josh calling his plays and Steve, you know,

755
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 4: I respect you for what that comment that you didn't make,

756
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 4: but I want to say this to add on to that.

757
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 4: Then I'm gonna say something real simple and be off

758
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 4: your off the.

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Speaker 10: Phone before we decide what uh uh Dorsey knows that

760
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 10: what he can call, we have to really know if

761
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 10: he really knows how to uh arrange it.

762
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 4: Steve, when when you were playing, when you're playing days

763
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,439
Speaker 4: and you had to go to a special teams meeting

764
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 4: and offensive meeting, you you got in and designed I

765
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 4: mean Teddy Marsher, Bryer and all these trust these guys

766
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 4: had to had to actually know the play to design

767
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 4: for you to even get on the field to actually

768
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 4: work under certain uh situations when they change defenses. We

769
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 4: really don't know and they and when I say we,

770
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 4: I'm talking about everybody else, including you two who watched

771
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 4: the game too. And Chris you do our stag jump

772
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 4: calling it?

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Speaker 1: What don't we know?

774
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 8: Yeah?

775
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 7: You do you do?

776
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 4: No, not really you do what you don't what do now?

777
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: Tell me? Go ahead, get to the point. What is

778
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: it that we don't know? Go ahead?

779
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, this is the point. Okay, I'll see I'm

780
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 4: getting got a long Monday. Okay, but this is the

781
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 4: this is the point we we we we know he's

782
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 4: office cornered by title. They gave him a job and

783
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 4: they pay him good money. But what we don't know

784
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 4: is based off what we've witnessed that it seems like

785
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 4: in certain situations he can't adapt when defenses made changes

786
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 4: to his offense. Like you said, you just said it.

787
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 9: Just now.

788
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 4: The first the first drive is script. It goes all

789
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 4: up the field you just said it, which is true, Steve.

790
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 4: But after his script, they make adjustments just like we

791
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 4: do on defense. Okay, they're gonna be doing this. He

792
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 4: can't make adjustments to defensive call. This is why we're stumbling. Okay,

793
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 4: this is why we're stumbling.

794
00:38:59,080 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: I got you.

795
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 4: Let me just say his last point, Steve, but with respect,

796
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 4: this is why I called on this point. I was

797
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 4: going to say before I went went with this guy.

798
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 4: Here is I would like to see more of the

799
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 4: running game and more of the dumping to the bats.

800
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 4: But it goes back to what I just said. I

801
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 4: wouldn't said to myself. Does this guy really know how

802
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 4: to do this? Though? When they make adjustments, can he steal? Okay,

803
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 4: they're going to be doing this, let's do this. He

804
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 4: has never counter react. I'm know the dummy US Army soldier,

805
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 4: retired retire teacher by law. And when we had to

806
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 4: act when they did something, we had to counterattack. We

807
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 4: have now counter attacked. We're using the same thing over

808
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 4: and over, regardless of ordin. It's like for skinning something.

809
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 4: It's like taking crew driving screw and a screw. Thank

810
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 4: you so much for I love both of you, man, Thank.

811
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Speaker 8: You so much.

812
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 9: Uch.

813
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that's it's well, it's a fair

814
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 3: point because we hear it from every team all the time,

815
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 3: including the Bills, and they're both coordinators and every staff

816
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 3: in the league. It used to be and we know

817
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 3: this when you play back in the day, back fifty

818
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 3: years ago, when I went fifty forty five years ago,

819
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 3: when I was in high school, you always think, Okay,

820
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 3: we're going in a halftime, we'll make some adjustments, and

821
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 3: we'll come back out. They're that's not the way it's

822
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 3: done anymore. And you hear about it from coach series.

823
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 3: It is series to series, play to play. They're coming

824
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 3: off the field and saying, hey, here's what they're thinking

825
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 3: about us, and here's what they're trying to do. We're

826
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 3: gonna go this direction and do that. And some people,

827
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 3: and not only Butcher from the East Side, but you

828
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 3: think they're out ahead of it. They like guys like

829
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 3: lou Ana Rumo and Cincinnati Bengals. Their staff is way

830
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 3: out in front in their ability to adjust on the fly.

831
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Speaker 2: Now, I'll I'll give Dorsey credit. You know, the Tampa

832
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 2: Bay game at Tampa defense is on its heels coming

833
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 2: out of the game, you know. And again to Butcher's point,

834
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 2: probably a lot of that is scripted. You know, that

835
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: first drive, but they come out, you know, hurry up

836
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 2: up tempo, and Tampa is looking at each other like,

837
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 2: what what's coming next here?

838
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, And there's I think about this too, and I

839
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 3: they got off to that slow start in Cincinnati and

840
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,439
Speaker 3: we said it, you know, they got to touchdown and early,

841
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 3: and they got to touch down late. Here's they come

842
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 3: out on that first drive and they go binky back

843
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 3: to the boom. You know, plinketty plink, plink, boom down

844
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,959
Speaker 3: the field, touchdown, let's go. Second time. They come out again.

845
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 3: One play Josh throws it to the wrong dude. Yeah,

846
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 3: and they had you know, you got to hit the flat.

847
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 2: Same thing happened in New England. Yeah, you know, New

848
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: England comes down to the field, they put a field

849
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 2: goal up. Josh gets the ball first play, pick right,

850
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 2: so it's down to nothing.

851
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: So then you're off to a slow start. Then you

852
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: come in.

853
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 3: All the stuff you learned on that nice drive going

854
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 3: down the field, you got to go back and do

855
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 3: you repeat that again?

856
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 6: You know, so.

857
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 3: It's not like Ken Dorsey and Ken Dorsey did not

858
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 3: tell him to throw it to the guy who was

859
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 3: sloughing off. You know, you got to take the short

860
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 3: you know that that's on Josh. And then all of

861
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 3: a sudden, now it's a different ball game because it's

862
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 3: like midway through the second before we get the ball back.

863
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 2: Right, we got to take a break here. But Paul

864
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 2: in Batavia, Jack and Ken Moore, we'll get to you

865
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 2: guys to lead us off in the next segment. Open

866
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Speaker 2: lines for you at ato three oh five fifty. What

867
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Speaker 2: wrinkle do you want to see more of in the

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Speaker 2: Bills offense. Here on One Bill's Live, presented by Collide Health,

869
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871
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Speaker 2: calls tot ato three oh five fifty one eighty eight

872
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,439
Speaker 2: five fifty two, five fifty as we are asking you today,

873
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 2: what wrinkle do you want to see more of in

874
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 2: the Bills offense going forward? And we lead off this

875
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 2: segment with Paul and Batavia. What do you got for us?

876
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 11: Paul Hey, Chris, hey, Steve, thanks for taking my call.

877
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 11: Steve Way to lead in from the last caller forty

878
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 11: years ago, fifty years ago, fifty five years ago. The

879
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 11: theology you was to put the points on the board.

880
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 11: If the Giants had kicked the field goal instead of

881
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 11: trying to get the touchdown, they still would have been

882
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 11: up two scores. Now, mentally, that's tough for a team

883
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 11: in the locker room to come back and try and

884
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 11: score twice. Put the points on the road, put the

885
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 11: points up at home. Kick the field goal. I understand

886
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 11: it's a passing league, but put the field goal up.

887
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,720
Speaker 11: We don't have to go for four and two fourth

888
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 11: down and two fourth down and three fourth down and

889
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 11: four put the field goal up. Those are points. That's

890
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 11: an offense. You're putting the pressure on the other team.

891
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 11: I'll hang up, thanks guys.

892
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand the approach, and especially when you have

893
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 2: Tyler Bass, who even head coach Sean McDermott calls a weapon,

894
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 2: and I think he's right. He is a weapon just

895
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 2: because of his range and his accuracy. There's something to

896
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:00,919
Speaker 2: be said for that. But I think that ccumstances game

897
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 2: to game differ and you can't always take that approach

898
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: points or points, especially if you're playing a team that

899
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: can score points just as well or even better than you.

900
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 2: You have to be more aggressive. And there are win

901
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 2: probabilities that these teams in the NFL nowadays are calculating

902
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 2: in real time, and so they have guys up in

903
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 2: the booth that tell them, look, if we go for

904
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 2: it on fourth and two here at the thirty seven

905
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 2: yard line, we have a fifty eight percent chance of

906
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 2: getting the first down. And if we get that first down,

907
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 2: we now have a seventy two percent chance of scoring

908
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 2: a touchdown, which then increases our win probability by twenty

909
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 2: eight percent, so we should go for it here. I mean,

910
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,720
Speaker 2: those are the that's the kind of information head coaches

911
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 2: in the league now are getting in real time from

912
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 2: their analytics guys sitting up in the booth. Yeah, maybe

913
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 2: not in that exact.

914
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: Order, but I'll say this too.

915
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 3: We talked about it at length about there are some

916
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 3: games where you get the feeling, like back in the day,

917
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 3: and maybe rightfully so, you get these teams like the

918
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 3: old Bills with Jim and Thurman and Andre and they

919
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 3: just let's just score thirty eight. You know, we've seen

920
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 3: it with this team. There go forty eight. They'll hang

921
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 3: forty eight on the Dolphins. Let's go keep going.

922
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: And I get it.

923
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 3: But there are also other games you get into the

924
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 3: fourth quarter and you're up by two scores or three scores,

925
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 3: seventeen points, will say, and you get the feeling that

926
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 3: they start to think about other things, like, all right,

927
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 3: they're gonna run out of possessions if we just if

928
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,760
Speaker 3: we have the ball and can have time of possession

929
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 3: for minute forty two in the last five minutes and

930
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 3: a five and a half minutes of the game, they're

931
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 3: gonna run out of time to beat us, unless like

932
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 3: six things go haywire, right, Well, then you get a

933
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 3: game like the Minnesota Vikings game where six things did

934
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 3: go and they you lose it. You get a game

935
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 3: like the Green Bay game last year where it looked

936
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 3: like the Bills just absolutely took it out of gear

937
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 3: and they won by ten after they were leading by seventeen,

938
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 3: and the and the Packers go down score and it

939
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 3: looks like, oh my gosh, you're only up by ten,

940
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 3: but the game kind of just withers away. That's analytics

941
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 3: decision making. And it doesn't look like you're really trying

942
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 3: to win at the end. It looks like you're trying

943
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 3: to not lose. But that's what it looks like. And

944
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 3: you know, this is a team that is you can

945
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 3: say what you want. This is a team that wins

946
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 3: a ton of games and rarely, if ever, gets beat

947
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:41,720
Speaker 3: by more than a score.

948
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 1: They're hard to beat. They're hard to beat.

949
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 3: Now, a lot of teams can say why even when

950
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 3: they're not playing their best. I mean, they Bills fans

951
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 3: are sick about that Cincinnati game, and I get it.

952
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: They lost by.

953
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 3: Six with a you know they had, you know, you

954
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 3: felt like God, they missed it by like this much

955
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 3: like on four different you know what I mean. That's

956
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 3: where they're talking about. And while it's frustrating, is all

957
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 3: get out to lose games like that, It's also the

958
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 3: reason you win a lot of games is because you

959
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 3: just these teams just can't get back into it.

960
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: And this stuff about going forward on fourth down. This

961
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: staff is on it.

962
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 3: Man, they go for it when they're supposed to go

963
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 3: for it. They don't one thing i'd one thing i'd hate,

964
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 3: and I'm maybe I'm the word and one thing I hate.

965
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: I feel like.

966
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 3: I should be the guy that tells them when they

967
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 3: should challenge a play. The challenge they had on the sherfield,

968
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 3: catch you and I whether it's a catch or not.

969
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: Don't take that challenge. I knew it. I knew it.

970
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 1: I knew it. Don't listen to those players. They ain't

971
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: gonna tell you the truth.

972
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just And it doesn't matter if he caught

973
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 3: it or not. What matters is what you can prove. Yeah,

974
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 3: And that's what you got to remember. All these some

975
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 3: of these coaches, not McDermott so much, although he doesn't

976
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 3: have a great record when he challenges some of these

977
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 3: coaches and some of these challenges are preposterous.

978
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, like you have no shot?

979
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: What are you doing?

980
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:16,959
Speaker 4: Yeah?

981
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 3: I get it, that is, you know, but that's now.

982
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 3: They give them all these weapons and these tools. They

983
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 3: you know, they got to flex it once in a while.

984
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 3: It's like, no, no, bro, don't challenge that.

985
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 2: Let's squeeze Jack and Ken Moore in here before the break.

986
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 2: What do you got for us?

987
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 1: Jack?

988
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 5: How you doing guys today?

989
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're living the dream man.

990
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 5: Okay, here it is guys. I know you know who.

991
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 5: Howard Simon was on the radio. Okay, and he picks

992
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 5: us to Finch eight and nine, which I don't agree with, okay,

993
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 5: And just what I want them to do.

994
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 4: I want them to.

995
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 5: Work on a screen and draw. If they got to

996
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 5: run a ten thousand times in practice, you got to

997
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 5: do that, okay. And I'm telling you I have the coordinator.

998
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 5: If it all happens and we got to get a

999
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 5: new offensive coordinator.

1000
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:08,800
Speaker 6: He's in the building.

1001
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 5: And you will be shocked when I'm telling you who

1002
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 5: it is.

1003
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 9: You hired Marv Lieve as a head.

1004
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 5: Coach when he was in the booth.

1005
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 4: This other guy is in the boot.

1006
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:21,439
Speaker 7: His name is Eric Wood.

1007
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 5: He knows a lot about the game.

1008
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 8: I listen to him.

1009
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 5: He's very technical about everything he does, and I think

1010
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 5: he'd make a great coordinator and have a great day, guys.

1011
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: All right, stuff Jack, Thanks Jack. Screens and draws first,

1012
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: I'll go to your first point. Screens and draws. I'm

1013
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:44,240
Speaker 1: with you. We have it's almost humorous.

1014
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 3: The fact that the screen game in this offense, since

1015
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 3: Josh Allen's become quarterback and this staff is taken over,

1016
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 3: have been.

1017
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: Unsatisfying to be polite play.

1018
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 2: Now, they did run an ice s creen last week.

1019
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 2: The digs play is that's a great, a well run screen.

1020
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 2: He gets through the blocks and he gets down the

1021
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 2: field one of the laws he went for thirty plus yards.

1022
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 3: Ran a screen to Cook two. Now, the digs play

1023
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 3: wasn't really a screen. He was in motion and they

1024
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 3: threw He just turned around and it was like a

1025
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 3: whip pass. But they did have three people in front

1026
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 3: of him, right, they got out in front of him.

1027
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 3: The screen pass to James Cook was an absolute revelation.

1028
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: So that was big.

1029
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 2: The other thing, too, is I feel like when Josh

1030
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 2: was younger, they ran more quarterback draws, and I feel

1031
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 2: like that is something that has kind of evaporated in

1032
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 2: their offensive scheme, and I realized there was a time

1033
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 2: and place on the field for that also down and distance.

1034
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 2: I just feel like that has evaporated. It doesn't exist

1035
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 2: within the scope of the offensive well. And I know

1036
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 2: you have to pick a time in a place and

1037
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 2: the opponent has to be right.

1038
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 3: And I know there are all kinds of draw plays

1039
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 3: that you can run, but it's it's it's different. You

1040
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 3: don't run a draw play these days like you used

1041
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,760
Speaker 3: to in the old days, where you go under center

1042
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 3: and then drop back and then give it to the guy.

1043
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 3: And Brownie and I have sat here, we're pulling our hair. Well,

1044
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 3: I was pulling my hair out. Brownie's gone, we're pulling

1045
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 3: our hair out. When they're in they're in goal line

1046
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 3: or short yardage and it's out a shotgun and Josh

1047
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 3: takes the shotgun snap runs over to James Cook and

1048
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 3: hands it to him at a dead stop, and then

1049
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 3: they run that draw a little sprint draw kind of

1050
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 3: thing that doesn't work.

1051
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: So I was kind of.

1052
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 3: Screenplays screenplastic passes. Yeah, I'm okay with that.

1053
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: Jack.

1054
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 3: The draw plays not so much. And then Eric would

1055
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 3: as offensive coordinator. Yeah, Eric's a sharp guy, and that's

1056
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 3: basically one of the job requirements.

1057
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 1: I'll say this.

1058
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:03,959
Speaker 3: One of the reasons that players from the modern age,

1059
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 3: you know, and back when I played, and now, one

1060
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 3: of the reasons that you don't see too many of

1061
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 3: them getting into the coaching ranks is is twofold one.

1062
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 3: It's not in their it's not in their blood. They

1063
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 3: don't they They're not a coach kind of guy. A

1064
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 3: coach is not a profession. It's a lifestyle. And some

1065
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 3: of the guys don't want that lifestyle.

1066
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: And the and two.

1067
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 3: The lifestyle is one that is long hours and radio

1068
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 3: shows that do nothing but call for your head on

1069
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 3: a silver platter. And a lot of these guys are like,

1070
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 3: you know what, I made a stack of cash when

1071
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 3: I was playing. I am good. They don't want any

1072
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 3: part of having a scoreboard every Sunday anymore.

1073
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 2: Break time for us here. Our number two is more

1074
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 2: of your phone calls. So get on board at eight

1075
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 2: oh three zero five fifty one eight eight eight five

1076
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 2: fifty two fifty what wrinkled do you want to see

1077
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 2: more of in the bills? Off's going forward. Get on

1078
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 2: the phone lines or hit us up on the tweet

1079
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 2: sheet as we have more of you coming up a

1080
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 2: hour number two here on One Bill's Live presented by

1081
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 2: Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

1082
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live presented by Kaleida Health.

1083
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 2: All right, here we are our number two on a Wednesday,

1084
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Jasker with you and talking Bill's offense

1085
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 2: and what kind of wrinkle you'd like to see more

1086
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 2: of in Buffalo's offense going forward. Maybe there is some

1087
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 2: little thing that piques your interest. You say, you know what,

1088
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 2: I'd like to see more of that, and I think

1089
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 2: it could help you. Let us know. At eight h

1090
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 2: three zero five point fifty one eight eight eight five

1091
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 2: fifty two, five point fifty and leading us off here

1092
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 2: in our number two is Greg on a cell. What's up?

1093
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:30,919
Speaker 1: Greg?

1094
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 10: Hey?

1095
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 7: How you doing? Guys?

1096
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 2: We're hanging in there.

1097
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1098
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 12: I was thinking about, you know, getting a better running game,

1099
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 12: but I'm looking at the stats and Cook his averaging

1100
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 12: four point seven yards of carry, So I don't know

1101
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 12: about that. They they would like to see him run

1102
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 12: the ball a little bit more and more effectively, but

1103
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 12: at four point seven yards, it's.

1104
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 7: Hard to argue that.

1105
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 12: What I wanted to call though, about was the defensive

1106
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 12: cord or the offensive coordinator calling the plays. I think

1107
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 12: it's a better situation the offensive coordinators up high. He

1108
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 12: can see the personnel that are out there and the

1109
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 12: changes that defense.

1110
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 4: Makes right away.

1111
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 12: Playing the quarterback. Now, if the quarterback gets up to

1112
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 12: the line and they're in a formation that you know.

1113
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 2: Oh, Greg, you're breaking up offens.

1114
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 7: Oh I'm sorry, I'm in the mountain.

1115
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 12: So hopefully you got what I said and.

1116
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 6: I'll hang up.

1117
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1118
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 2: I guess he's kind of indicating that the coordinator has

1119
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 2: a better look at everything, so he should be calling

1120
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 2: the play. He's not the quarterback.

1121
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: They every team, and it's a copycat lee. We've all

1122
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: heard that.

1123
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 3: And there are some play callers, like most notably head

1124
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 3: coaches who are offensive coordinators as well, are down on

1125
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 3: the field. But most coordinators in the league sit up

1126
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 3: top because they feel like it's the best way all things,

1127
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,240
Speaker 3: shouldn't they And they all these coaches, they cross pollinate

1128
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 3: from this staff to the other. And because of that,

1129
00:55:58,440 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 3: you know, they all figured out, you know, what it's

1130
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 3: best because you can see stuff up there that you

1131
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 3: can't see downstairs. And the one the challenge is to

1132
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 3: make is the quarterback being able to communicate with the

1133
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 3: quarterback between series. You've seen the quarterbacks that used to

1134
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 3: have really telephones. Now they have headsets, and that's how

1135
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 3: they do it. That's always been the challenge.

1136
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 8: You know.

1137
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 3: Look and you always hear that too. You know, I

1138
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 3: wanted to look like day Ball when he was handling Josh.

1139
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 3: I want to be down there so I can look

1140
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:25,959
Speaker 3: in Josh's eyes.

1141
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 2: And well, day Ball is upstairs too, he was downstairs.

1142
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 3: Yes, and yeah, so it was both ways. I think

1143
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 3: when Josh got good enough, day Ball went back upstairs.

1144
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 3: But yeah, most of the coordinators are upstairs, and they're

1145
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 3: up there for a reason.

1146
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:40,359
Speaker 10: Uh.

1147
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 3: It helps them do their job and call the plays better.

1148
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 3: And so it's not just you know, it's not Ken

1149
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 3: Dorsey who reinvented the wheel and decided he's going up

1150
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 3: there and staying up there that kind of I mean, it's.

1151
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: Just the best way to do it.

1152
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 3: And they got a lot of sharp people in the NFL,

1153
00:56:58,160 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 3: and all of them are trying to do that kind

1154
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 3: of the same way that you know, different little idiosyncrasies

1155
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 3: that once they're up there, up there, But that's where

1156
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 3: they all call it from. And there's a good there's

1157
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 3: a ton of good reasons for why they do.

1158
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 2: Mike and Alleghany is next. What's up?

1159
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: Mike?

1160
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:18,439
Speaker 6: Hey, how you doing? Guys? My question I might be wrong,

1161
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 6: but wasn't it the first trick play the police Flaker

1162
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 6: last week? Wasn't that the first time I remember doing

1163
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 6: a trick play?

1164
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1165
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 2: I think it's the first gadget play this season. I'm

1166
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 2: trying to think off the top of my head if

1167
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 2: I can think of others, and I cannot. This did

1168
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 2: we have we I think we might have had. Didn't

1169
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 2: we have Dawson Knox go under center on one play

1170
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 2: that would be the closest thing to another trick play,

1171
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 2: and that that pales in comparison.

1172
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 6: Well, would it be a good idea? I mean, if

1173
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,919
Speaker 6: they just practiced one a week, concentrate on one trick

1174
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 6: play a week, then by the end of the season

1175
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 6: they'll have a multitude of trick plays that they could try. Yeah,

1176
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 6: that's just poo for pot. But that's my question, And

1177
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 6: I'll lay you up and let you guys.

1178
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it, Mike, Thanks for the call. The

1179
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 2: way they do that is that you know, they may

1180
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 2: have one or two that they like against a given opponent,

1181
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 2: and they will rep it during the practice week. Depending

1182
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 2: on how it fares in practice largely determines whether it's

1183
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 2: on the call sheet for the game plan on Sunday.

1184
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 2: If they've got this thing drawn up and it's not

1185
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 2: being executed particularly well through the course of the practice week,

1186
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 2: it's probably gonna get scrapped. They may turn to something else,

1187
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 2: but it's got to look good in practice one.

1188
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: Other aspect of it.

1189
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 3: And this doesn't mean it's it's always like this, but

1190
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 3: it used to be coaches would see something on the

1191
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 3: film from a defensive alignment and they say, you know,

1192
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:53,439
Speaker 3: if you did this, it might work. And what they'll

1193
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 3: do is particularly I know it was this way in

1194
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 3: special teams and probably still is, and it's this way

1195
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 3: in offensive defense. There has to be a real specific

1196
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 3: spot where you're gonna use it, and sometimes that spot

1197
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 3: just never rears its head. It never get that chance,

1198
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 3: or you know you're up, you're already up by by

1199
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,479
Speaker 3: three touchdowns and you don't want to waste the play.

1200
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 1: But I would be surprised if.

1201
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 3: The Bills don't have at least a handful of plays

1202
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 3: of the nature you're talking about in the playbook now

1203
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 3: that that we haven't seen either, because the defense they're

1204
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 3: playing that week is not susceptible the same way the

1205
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 3: defense was that you put it in for, or the

1206
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 3: situation never arises in the game.

1207
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 1: That's what I think.

1208
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 3: It's, you know, plays like the Philly Special or Philly Philly,

1209
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 3: the one you can you know you that you play.

1210
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 3: The Bills ran it there themselves once with josh As

1211
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 3: catching the touchdown. You can kind of run some of

1212
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 3: those all the all the time, but most of the

1213
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 3: time it's a specific situation against a specific opponent that

1214
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 3: you put it in for, and obviously, as we all know,

1215
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 3: more often than not, it never it never pops up

1216
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 3: because they never get in that situation where the defense

1217
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 3: will run it.

1218
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 1: And you've got the thing called Yeah, let's.

1219
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 2: Move along, and we go to Ron out in CALLA

1220
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 2: four and I A what do you got for us? Ronh?

1221
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 13: Hi Browning, Hi Steve, and thank you for representing us,

1222
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 13: you know on behalf of the Buffalo Bill's mafia. I

1223
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 13: apologize for them. We have acted immature. Let me explain, please,

1224
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 13: for most of the season of past years, we have

1225
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 13: done nothing but fascist wonderful team. Well, in fact, we

1226
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 13: should be thankful, thankful for the excitement they impose, and

1227
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 13: thankful for the sacrifice as they physically endure. I listened

1228
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 13: to the individual mic players of each game, and it's

1229
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 13: truly a bone crunching, amazing experience of awareness and reality

1230
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 13: player for example, colliding with the opposing team on each

1231
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 13: and every play, not to mention the battle on the

1232
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 13: front line, and let's not forget the blindess three hundred

1233
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 13: and sixty degrees around them every second of every play.

1234
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 13: I'm tired of these fans that are calling in fashion

1235
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 13: of players and coaches. I truly blame and on fantasy

1236
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 13: football and gambling. These fans only care of their own

1237
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 13: investment interests. A true Buffalo fan appreciates all the blessings

1238
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 13: and never the negative. This is a difference. There is

1239
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 13: a difference of expressing sadness where things don't go as expected,

1240
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 13: such as a frown. But I'm a firm believer. If

1241
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 13: you don't have something good to say, don't say it

1242
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 13: at all. It's a fundamental talk as a child, just

1243
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 13: have fundamentals on a given play. I want you to know.

1244
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 13: Steven Browning I appreciate you and Maddie.

1245
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 7: All that you do.

1246
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 13: Without the supporting cast of the Buffalo Bills, I would

1247
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 13: not be completely as a Buffalo fan. This needed to

1248
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 13: be said. Thank you for both of you, and I'm

1249
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 13: especially thankful to the Bills and this organization.

1250
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 2: All right, Ron Well said thanks for that. You know,

1251
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 2: I guess some people do not want to wallow in negativity,

1252
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 2: and Ron would probably be in that company. And I

1253
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 2: understand why, because you know, you can, you can kind

1254
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 2: of get yourself all beaten down just saying oh my gosh,

1255
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 2: you know, or we're cursed or whatever, and you know

1256
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 2: you could choose to be happy. It is a choice.

1257
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 2: I understand why some people get frustrated. They have a

1258
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 2: and and a lot of time. You know, it has

1259
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 2: nothing to do with fantasy football or gambling. It has

1260
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 2: everything to do with this is the team I grew

1261
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 2: up with. This is the only team I'm ever going

1262
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:13,919
Speaker 2: to root for. I live and die with my team.

1263
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 2: It's ride or die. And when I have expectations and

1264
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 2: they don't meet them, I get frustrated. And you know,

1265
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 2: for better or for worse, we are a forum for

1266
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 2: that fan base to react good, bad, or indifferent. That's

1267
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 2: just that's why we're here, and we're here to hear

1268
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 2: all of it, the good, the bad, and the ugly.

1269
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 2: You know, I understand where Ron's coming from, and it's

1270
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 2: great that he's that appreciative of the organization. The sacrifice

1271
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 2: is physically that the players make every week to try

1272
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 2: to win football games for the fan base. You know,

1273
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 2: I salute you for where your head's at Ron. You're

1274
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 2: in the minority.

1275
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and that's kind of the beauty of it.

1276
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 3: And now we have you know, the Bill's Mafia is

1277
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 3: uh has proven itself to be a unique group, no question.

1278
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 3: It started, I think, really gained its notoriety when when

1279
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 3: the Bills broke the drought and Bill's Mafia donated one

1280
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 3: hundreds of thousands of dollars to the quarterback of another

1281
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 3: team who threw the touchdown that got us into the

1282
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 3: playoffs in Andy Dalton. Certainly, it was the was the

1283
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 3: players on the Bills team obviously, and Sean McDermott the

1284
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 3: crew that broke the drought. But that was kind of

1285
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 3: where Bill's fans were at the moment. They were you know,

1286
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 3: they kind of unified together and they did the same

1287
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 3: thing for Lamar Jackson they did seem the Tyler boyd uh.

1288
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 3: And obviously for Josh Allen and the Oshi Children's Hospital,

1289
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 3: and and and all the you know, all the causes

1290
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 3: over the years here with thought Sean McDermott and Josh Allen,

1291
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 3: all these guys, all the causes that Bill's Mafia has decided, Hey,

1292
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 3: let's all give to this, and let's all give to that.

1293
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 3: It has been a real unifying thing, not just the

1294
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 3: team on the field and how well they're playing, but

1295
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 3: also off the field about how we commiserated and and

1296
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 3: the fan base actually grew through one of the longest

1297
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 3: droughts in Buffalo's.

1298
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 1: History playoff history.

1299
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 3: So I think my my main point would be this,

1300
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 3: It's okay, I'm like Brownie, it's awesome Ron that you're

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01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 3: like that. But everybody is a fan in their own way.

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01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 1: They got a right to be.

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01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 3: I would say this, Most Bills fans are a little

1304
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 3: different because they tend to reach out to one another

1305
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 3: in either in anguish or in celebration or solidarity or solidarity,

1306
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 3: but they tend to have an affection for one another

1307
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 3: that is different than other fan bases around the league.

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01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 3: With other teams, and and and I get it too.

1309
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 3: This is you know, it's been a tough week because

1310
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 3: of a tough loss to a really good football team.

1311
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 3: And it always kind of puts a chip in the

1312
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 3: paint job of your hope, but.

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Speaker 2: Of you know, but rather eloquently a ship in the

1314
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 2: paint job of your hope.

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Speaker 3: Right, like a double metaform, but I think the right

1316
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 3: h But you gotta we don't gotta get it through together.

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01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 3: That's the way it is. And the Bills fans will

1318
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 3: come together, and and I get it wrong. It's been

1319
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 3: a rough week, but you gotta, you gotta muddle through it.

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Speaker 3: It's cool that it's not the team that has dashed

1321
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:16,919
Speaker 3: your hopes or given you anything to be unhappy about.

1322
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 3: It's the way other people's, the other people's inability to

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01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 3: handle adversity that has put you in that So kudos

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Speaker 3: to you for that.

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Speaker 1: That's nice, and.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for your thanks call, and thanks for being Yes,

1327
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 2: that's awesome. Yeah, we move along to Darryl in Buffalo.

1328
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Speaker 2: What do you got for us?

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01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 1: Daryl?

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Speaker 6: How you doing?

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01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 4: Boy?

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Speaker 9: I don't know how to follow up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, you were next in line, Darrel, you got

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01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 2: the short straw theres you, Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Sort of, but I want to go back to four debt. Uh,

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Speaker 9: So it might be two to four games before he's

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Speaker 9: ready to get back.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm just telling you what he told us last week.

1339
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 2: The past game concepts are very new to him and

1340
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 2: so for him to get a handle on it. He

1341
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 2: was asked, how long do you think? And he said

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Speaker 2: two to four weeks. But you know, if you if

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01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 2: you give him, as we said earlier, if you just

1344
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 2: give him the game plan to study for that given week.

1345
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 2: He doesn't need to know the whole playbook. He just

1346
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 2: needs to know what's the game plan for this week.

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Speaker 2: That's a way to get him on the field sooner.

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Speaker 9: Right, Well, you know, the reality is a running back.

1349
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Speaker 9: So would that have been so hard to put him

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Speaker 9: in the Cincinnati game just for eye candy and give

1351
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Speaker 9: the Cincinnati defense something to look at he slid and say,

1352
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 9: what's he doing here? In the light up? What we

1353
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 9: went through that law for the you know, after the

1354
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 9: first drive to the last drive or else, keep him

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Speaker 9: in there. It's just a block and just to mixed

1356
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Speaker 9: things up. I don't understand why we could throw a

1357
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Speaker 9: little bit of light up.

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Speaker 3: Well, because they probably thought. I mean, it's they brought

1359
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 3: They didn't bring Leonard Fournett in because they were necessarily

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Speaker 3: shorthanded shorthanded, or that they were unhappy with what James

1361
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Speaker 3: Cook was able to do, or Latavius Murray. They brought

1362
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 3: him in because Damian Harris is a little nicked up.

1363
01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 3: They want to make sure they had some depth there.

1364
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 3: So I'm not sure that you know, they didn't go

1365
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Speaker 3: into that game and Cincinnati thinking we're only going to

1366
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Speaker 3: score eighteen points and we're gonna stay you know, we're

1367
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Speaker 3: gonna look like we're sputtering. They had every reason to

1368
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Speaker 3: believe they were going to be successful in that game,

1369
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Speaker 3: and they believed it. So they didn't really think, like, Okay,

1370
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 3: it's it's red light alarm bell time, we got to

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Speaker 3: get four nette on the field as fast as possible.

1372
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Speaker 3: That's not the mindset. That's not the mindset. Certainly, you

1373
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 3: can go back and say it would have been nice

1374
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 3: or maybe we would have pluged him in there, but

1375
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Speaker 3: that's you.

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Speaker 1: Know, before the fact.

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Speaker 3: You gotta know, they got a lot of confidence in

1378
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Speaker 3: the guys they got on their roster, and if Fournette

1379
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Speaker 3: can come in, and certainly he's got a good skill

1380
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:38,680
Speaker 3: set and all of that, and you don't know what

1381
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 3: it would have done to Miami's mindset, of Miami Cincinnati's

1382
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 3: off mindset. Defensively, I mean you can take guesses because

1383
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 3: you know, you can think about what it would do

1384
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Speaker 3: to you. But yeah, I think pulling him off the

1385
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,680
Speaker 3: street and plugging him right in, I mean that's not

1386
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 3: a little unfair to him.

1387
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true, especially in a game of that matter.

1388
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 2: The tude last week and.

1389
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Speaker 3: Think of it, think about this, I mean they didn't

1390
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:08,560
Speaker 3: they did it on defense with Lynn Vaal Joseph and

1391
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 3: Rsuell Douglas because I mean, think about what it took

1392
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 3: for those guys to get on the field and even

1393
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 3: on the team. So they're none of that kind of

1394
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 3: pressure offensively to put Leonard Fournette on the field.

1395
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Speaker 2: And you know you say, oh, just put him in

1396
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 2: there as a decoy or even to block. Look, he

1397
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 2: makes the wrong read on a pass protection assignment, Josh

1398
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:32,640
Speaker 2: is on his back and maybe he's injured, and then

1399
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 2: where are you? So you got to make sure that

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01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 2: you can put him out there and trust him with

1401
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 2: the assignments that you are giving to him. And if

1402
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 2: he doesn't feel comfortable, you don't put him on the field.

1403
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 2: That's just kind of the way it is. And I mean,

1404
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 2: a smart coach once told me the number one thing

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01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:54,640
Speaker 2: that you need to convince your coach of if you

1406
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 2: want playing time is that he can trust you. Coaches,

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01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:02,720
Speaker 2: it's about trust first. And if they feel they can

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01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 2: trust you to execute your assignments and they know what

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01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 2: your character makeup is, you know you can give everything

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01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 2: you got every time you're out there, you're gonna find

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01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 2: your way on the field. But if they're not sure

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01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 2: they can trust you, probably not gonna step between the

1413
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Speaker 2: lines because not only is their job on the line,

1414
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Speaker 2: but so is everybody else's. They're responsible for a lot

1415
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 2: of people and their livelihoods, So they're not going to

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01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:31,640
Speaker 2: put somebody out there that they don't trust is going

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01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 2: to execute what they have to execute in a given

1418
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 2: moment that could be a critical moment in a football

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01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:41,599
Speaker 2: game that sometimes determines winning and losing. So I think

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01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:44,760
Speaker 2: as soon as he's ready, we'll probably see him as

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01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 2: part of the mix. To what degree, that's the sixty

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01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 2: four million dollar question. We just don't know yet. I

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01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 2: will say this, you know what is interesting about Buffalo's

1424
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 2: running game because we have people saying get cooked more involved,

1425
01:10:55,640 --> 01:11:01,759
Speaker 2: stuff like that. James Cook's rushing attempts weeks one through four, okay,

1426
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:08,719
Speaker 2: fourteen carries a game. The next five weeks they dropped

1427
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:10,640
Speaker 2: to ten point four, so he's getting about four or

1428
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 2: fewer carries a game now. Part of that because the

1429
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Speaker 2: offense can't stay on the field and sustain drives. So

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Speaker 2: I think that's part of the reason. But is there

1431
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 2: something more to that. I don't know. We'll have to

1432
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 2: take a look and see. I do know, or at

1433
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 2: least it feels this way because as we know, the

1434
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 2: Bills are RPO centric with their offense. I feel like

1435
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 2: every RPO ends up being a pass?

1436
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:37,719
Speaker 1: Am I wrong?

1437
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:42,679
Speaker 2: Like, just in my eyeballs, it's almost like it's almost

1438
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:44,599
Speaker 2: like they should call it a pass run option because

1439
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 2: it seems like it's a pass every time Josh is

1440
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 2: always pulling it or you know what I mean, Like

1441
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 2: it's an RPO offense. But I might I'm tempted to

1442
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 2: go back and plow through the games right and see

1443
01:11:57,439 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 2: how many right because it seems like it's heavily tilted.

1444
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 2: And look, I'll be the first tell you it's a

1445
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:06,720
Speaker 2: passing league. You want to throw it, throw it, I'm good.

1446
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 2: But at the same time you have to have that

1447
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 2: air of unpredictability with the opponent too, because you don't

1448
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 2: want guys saying, ah, yeah, here's the fake or he's

1449
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:17,680
Speaker 2: throwing it back then I don't know.

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01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:20,839
Speaker 3: I couldn't pretend to know what they're telling the quarterback

1451
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 3: to look at.

1452
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 2: To decide, well, they're reading somebody right right, yeah, and.

1453
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 3: There's something that gives them. And it may be that

1454
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 3: if if anything other than this happens, throw it. Yeah,

1455
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:38,640
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, And that never happens. He

1456
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 3: always throwing it kind of thing. If they do this,

1457
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 3: then you do that, right, and also do it even

1458
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 3: if they don't do this other thing right all that

1459
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:50,799
Speaker 3: So it's like ninety nine.

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Speaker 1: Times out of a hunt.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying what my eyeballs see. But that's it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you say, listen, just we're gonna run this RPO.

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Speaker 3: You can give it to them just in case there's

1464
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 3: that op because if if they were to do this,

1465
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Speaker 3: which nobody's ever gonna do or hasn't done, we're gonna

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Speaker 3: throw it. Yeah, that may be the kind of mindset

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Speaker 3: that they.

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Speaker 2: Go with break time for us here, but phone line's

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Speaker 2: open for you at eight o three oh five fifty

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Speaker 2: one eight eight eight five fifty two five point fifty

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Speaker 2: the number to get on board. What wrinkle do you

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Speaker 2: want to see more of in the Bills offense going forward?

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Speaker 2: You let us know and we're happy to talk to

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Speaker 2: eight oh three oh five fifty one eight eight eight

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Speaker 2: five fifty two five point fifty. What wrinkle do you

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Speaker 2: want to see more of in the Bills offense going forward?

1481
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 2: We are gonna check in on the tweet sheet again though,

1482
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 2: to see what takes are there. And TG sports says

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01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 2: motion jet sweep rollouts and screens instead of just stacking

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Speaker 2: two wide receivers on each side, which the Bills lead

1485
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:18,640
Speaker 2: the league in that set through week nine. Yeah, I

1486
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 2: mean even Dan Orlovsky mentioned it yesterday in the in

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01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:24,759
Speaker 2: the Bengals game, they went two by two for large

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01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 2: stretches of the game and really didn't deviate from that

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01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 2: all that much. I think there is something to be

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01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 2: said for motion, Steve. I mean, Bills don't do a

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01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 2: ton of that, bless you, or at least not as

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Speaker 2: much as some of the highest teams in the league.

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Speaker 2: But it does force defenses to communicate and it also

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01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 2: helps declare what the defense is going to be in

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01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 2: for the quarterback. So there are some advantages to making

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Speaker 2: use of that.

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Speaker 3: It's always been that way, and people can you can

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01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:04,640
Speaker 3: basic logic tell you why when the offense moves and

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Speaker 3: shifts the defense like I'm guarding the guy, and with

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Speaker 3: the way defenses do it is I've got number one

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01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 3: on the weak side or I've got number one to

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01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:14,799
Speaker 3: the boundary. What that means is the closest wide receiver,

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01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 3: the closest eligible finger quotes eligible receiver to the boundary

1504
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 3: is your guy, and then the next guy in from him,

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01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 3: the second receiver eligible receiver from the boundary is number

1506
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 3: two to the boundary, and so on. There's five guys

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01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 3: and then there's one on the other side. There has

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01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 3: to be at least one over there, so he's one

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01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 3: to the field or one to the weak side. Or

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Speaker 3: the strong side of the formation, whichever they want to

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01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 3: the way they want to do it as a certain defense.

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Speaker 3: So when those guys start moving around, you know this

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Speaker 3: guy me, my guy changed. Now he went inside. Now

1514
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 3: the guy that's standing there that was the number two

1515
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,599
Speaker 3: is now the number one. So you got to tell

1516
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 3: the guy who is guarding the number two that, hey,

1517
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:58,679
Speaker 3: now that's my guy. So you can imagine what happens

1518
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 3: when they break the huddle. And the old Redskins used

1519
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 3: to do this a ton.

1520
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:05,640
Speaker 1: It was unbelievable.

1521
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 3: They would come up and get set and then the

1522
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 3: titan would stand up, back off the line and get

1523
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 3: back in a three point step. Then another guy would

1524
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 3: come across and get next to him, and then that

1525
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 3: first tight end that stood up and backed up, he

1526
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:19,560
Speaker 3: would go in motion the other side. It was unbelievable

1527
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 3: how they motioned and then shifted. And what happens is

1528
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:27,720
Speaker 3: and we all know this too, only one person can

1529
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,680
Speaker 3: move at the offense, but it's after everybody has been

1530
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:34,599
Speaker 3: set to a perfectly standstill. Then when he goes in motion,

1531
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 3: he can't move towards the line of scrimmage. And I

1532
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 3: don't know, they were kind of letting that slide these days,

1533
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 3: and then if somebody moves or goes in motion, they

1534
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 3: both have to come to a complete stop again, and

1535
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 3: then another person can go in motion.

1536
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 1: So it's all got all these rules and stuff going on.

1537
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 3: It's hard to keep straight on both sides of the

1538
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 3: ball if you're not doing it right, and you can't

1539
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:02,640
Speaker 3: get lazy in motions and shit. But on defense, and

1540
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 3: most people can't hear this because of the TV broadcast,

1541
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 3: and even in a stadium is a little too noisy.

1542
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 3: If you play defense in the National Football League, you

1543
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 3: can't do it and not have a voice. You've got

1544
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 3: to be able to scream. Those guys yell constantly on

1545
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 3: that side because they're all talking to each other. And

1546
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 3: that's why screen, that's why motion and shifts and all

1547
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 3: that stuff are really important for an offense to have.

1548
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 3: And in this day and age now it's getting to

1549
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 3: be very much in vogue to use it and weaponize

1550
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 3: it for your offense, not only for the information that

1551
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 3: you can get from it, because if somebody follows the guy,

1552
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 3: you know, that's the guy. That's so everybody else has

1553
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 3: got a guy. If everybody if they just watch the

1554
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:49,559
Speaker 3: guy cross the motion and the defense doesn't do anything

1555
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 3: except maybe slide that way a little bit. They're guarding

1556
01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 3: areas of the field and zone coverage. It tells a

1557
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:57,720
Speaker 3: quarterback what he's looking at and where his reed's going

1558
01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:03,560
Speaker 3: to be. You know, Yes, you've got to have a

1559
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:06,639
Speaker 3: lot of shifts in motion in today's NFL. If there's

1560
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:10,599
Speaker 3: a time when they don't, that's you don't say, well,

1561
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 3: they got to do all this they got. When they

1562
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:15,759
Speaker 3: don't do it, you ask why. Don't say you gotta

1563
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:18,759
Speaker 3: do that? You say, why aren't you? And there's gonna

1564
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:21,800
Speaker 3: be a really solid reason for that as well. So

1565
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 3: that's where you're at. I mean, the Bills have got

1566
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:29,599
Speaker 3: all that stuff in there in their playbook, and if

1567
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:32,639
Speaker 3: they don't use it, it's for a good reason. It's

1568
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 3: for a good reason just because a they like the

1569
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 3: play they got against the defense that that's been shown,

1570
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:42,720
Speaker 3: or b they've got the matchup they want right there,

1571
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 3: so they don't want anybody to move because if they

1572
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 3: start moving guys around, all of a sudden, the wrong

1573
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 3: guy gets on your guy and now you don't have

1574
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 3: the matchup you want. So if they don't shift, it's

1575
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 3: for good as good a reason as there is when

1576
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 3: they do shift. So don't think that the Bills don't

1577
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 3: can't run those guys all over the formation and shift

1578
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:04,720
Speaker 3: them and movement. They can do all that, Yeah, but

1579
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 3: they don't when they don't do it.

1580
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 1: That is also for a reason.

1581
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 2: Mike on the tweets sheet says, not a wrinkle, but

1582
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 2: an ironclad commitment to spacing, allowing Josh to do what

1583
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:20,720
Speaker 2: he does best with his deadliest weapon all caps his

1584
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:26,800
Speaker 2: right arm. Dot dot dot. I get it, you know.

1585
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 2: Unfortunately for Josh, Dalton Kincaid is wise beyond his ears

1586
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 2: in finding space and I think even Stefan does really

1587
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:40,519
Speaker 2: good job of sitting down in zones in the right

1588
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 2: areas for Josh as well. So yeah, I mean, I

1589
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:50,599
Speaker 2: think that's an oversimplification, but I get what you're saying.

1590
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 2: Joseph says, we need more emotion. However, something is going

1591
01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 2: on with Josh just isn't seeing the field well at all.

1592
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:01,559
Speaker 2: The All twenty two TS ape shows him constantly staring

1593
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 2: down double covered receivers and missing two wide open guys

1594
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:07,800
Speaker 2: a lot. I think the uptempo this year keeps him

1595
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 2: from thinking. I think he means that in a positive way,

1596
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 2: just react and throw jam says twenty twenty three version

1597
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 2: of the K gun, call it the JA gun, Read

1598
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 2: audible and execute in fifteen seconds. That's moving, that's really moving.

1599
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:30,519
Speaker 2: Well you guys did in sixteen right.

1600
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, sixteen seconds on. But here's the thing. Yeah, you

1601
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 3: can do all of that. Everything's great when it works.

1602
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:42,719
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, if it works, that's great, it's great.

1603
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:45,679
Speaker 3: But here's the thing too. If you're gonna go that fast,

1604
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 3: you're gonna you're going to slice huge portions of your

1605
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:53,960
Speaker 3: playbook off not to be used.

1606
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 2: You can't be voluminous if you're gonna be fast, that's.

1607
01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 3: Right, because you can't get up the line of scrimage

1608
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 3: and say, okay, we're gonna snap. Well, if you're gonna

1609
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 3: get set, that's fine.

1610
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 1: Great. Well, now you can't shift in motion all the time.

1611
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it's send one guy, but you can't shift.

1612
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 2: You're not change personnel.

1613
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 3: You're not gonna change personnel groupings, and you're just gonna go.

1614
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:14,600
Speaker 3: So that's what you give up. You're gonna give up

1615
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:19,200
Speaker 3: huge swaths of your play sheet as well as the

1616
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 3: ability to do what other people say you.

1617
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:25,800
Speaker 1: Really need to do, and that's motion and shift guys. Yeah,

1618
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 1: it's an issue.

1619
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 9: Uh.

1620
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:31,879
Speaker 2: Next is Dennis who says, get Sherfield and Hardy involved.

1621
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:34,639
Speaker 2: Why go get them if they aren't being utilized. I'm

1622
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 2: just gonna say I've been lobbying for more time for

1623
01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 2: mister Sherfield for over a week now. You know what

1624
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:45,559
Speaker 2: I'd like to see. I was so impressed with Gabe

1625
01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 2: Davis on underneath routes in the Tampa game, running quick

1626
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 2: slants and you know, short to intermediate routes. He had

1627
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:57,600
Speaker 2: nine catches in the game. I would put you know,

1628
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 2: and again not a coach, I don't have all the answers.

1629
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:05,320
Speaker 2: I'd like to see more of Sherfield outside in Gabe spot.

1630
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 2: And put Gabe in the slot. Put a big, hulking

1631
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 2: receiver two hundred and twenty five pounds in there, and

1632
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 2: let's see a five to ten one hundred and eighty

1633
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:17,959
Speaker 2: pound nickel corner cover him. You don't even need separation.

1634
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 2: He'll just out muscle the guy. So I would be

1635
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 2: in favor of some of that. Put Gabe inside and

1636
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 2: put Sherfield outside. He's got more deep speed than Gabe,

1637
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 2: so I think he could do more damage for you

1638
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 2: as a field stretcher. And I understand the Hardy point too.

1639
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 2: I think a lot of us were expecting to see

1640
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:40,839
Speaker 2: more of him. Now maybe that got compromised when Nahim

1641
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 2: Heinz tears his acl right before training camp, and now

1642
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 2: Hardy has to become the primary return man. Maybe that's

1643
01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:49,920
Speaker 2: what has compromised his opportunities on offense.

1644
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 3: I don't know, well, and you know, and I know

1645
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:53,640
Speaker 3: that you said, hey, we're gonna go out and get

1646
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:55,880
Speaker 3: these guys and bring them in here. Well, here's the problem,

1647
01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:57,720
Speaker 3: I mean, and here's what they were up against. Don't

1648
01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 3: forget they only had three guys in the room at

1649
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:07,400
Speaker 3: all period, Davis, Diggs and Shakir. They had to go

1650
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 3: find somebody to play. So and I'm not saying they

1651
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 3: didn't get good guys. I'm just saying it's not like

1652
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:17,679
Speaker 3: they went out and said, you know, we're gonna revamp

1653
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:23,120
Speaker 3: our receiver room. All those guys left, so they got

1654
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 3: the best guys they could. I like Sherfield, I'm all

1655
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:28,360
Speaker 3: about it. I like I love Hardy and his skill

1656
01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 3: set to and I do you know, and I'm like

1657
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:32,560
Speaker 3: with you, I wish they'd use them. But it's not

1658
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:38,519
Speaker 3: like they went out there specifically because you know, you

1659
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:39,640
Speaker 3: know what I mean. I mean, if they had to,

1660
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 3: they're gonna that room's gonna be full with other guys

1661
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 3: that you know, Shorters on the practice squad right now.

1662
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:47,639
Speaker 3: He's a big dude waiting for his chance to play.

1663
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:52,719
Speaker 3: You know, there's all kinds of possibilities. I think I'm

1664
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 3: kind of coming back to this, and I think a

1665
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 3: lot of Bills fans are here. He certainly you throw

1666
01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:58,599
Speaker 3: this stuff out, like, let's see what Gabe can do here,

1667
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 3: Let's see what Gabe can do there. Let's see what

1668
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 3: Surefield can do if he gets on the field. Let's

1669
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 3: do the twenty two personnel thing, Let's whatever all that.

1670
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 3: Let's let's elevate Andy Isabella one week, see how he

1671
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 3: does all of that stuff that has happened. The simple

1672
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 3: fact of the matters is I believe the guys in

1673
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 3: the locker room and on the roster right now are

1674
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 3: good enough to beat anybody. They don't have to like

1675
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 3: reinvent the wheel or go out and find out. Leonard

1676
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 3: Fournette's great player, no question, and Lynn Val Joseph same thing.

1677
01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 3: And you have to make some adjustments for.

1678
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 1: The for the injuries.

1679
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 3: But it's not like these guys lack the ability to

1680
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 3: win any game they get into. I think they can,

1681
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 3: so I don't think it's like they've made poor personnel

1682
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 3: decisions or anything like that.

1683
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:42,599
Speaker 1: I just think.

1684
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 3: For what I think, they just are not hitting on

1685
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 3: all cylinders. And some of it's Josh on certain situations,

1686
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:54,720
Speaker 3: but some of it's not. And some of it is

1687
01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:56,639
Speaker 3: the fact that they're playing one of the toughest schedules

1688
01:24:56,680 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 3: in the league, and Cincinnati they took down, they took

1689
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:03,600
Speaker 3: them to the wire, they pushed them. I know you

1690
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 3: want to do more than that, as Bills fans. You

1691
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 3: want them to beat those guys by by three touchdowns.

1692
01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 3: That's a pretty big ask for a team that's playing

1693
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 3: as well as Cincinnati. But the Bills gave themselves a

1694
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 3: chance and they didn't play their best football. And I

1695
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 3: think that's what it is. You're just not playing their

1696
01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 3: best football right now. Yeah and all, And you're right,

1697
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:26,679
Speaker 3: there's no denying that. But I'll say this, they're still

1698
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 3: in the mix. I believe they're still going to be

1699
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 3: there at the end, and that's when I want them

1700
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 3: to be playing their best. If we're just having these

1701
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 3: conversations when they're like nine and five or whatever, you

1702
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:40,840
Speaker 3: know what I mean, And they're they're trying to and

1703
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:43,599
Speaker 3: they're still sputtering, and we're going, you know, win loss,

1704
01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 3: win loss, and we're going we go, we go six

1705
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:49,200
Speaker 3: and three, then six and or six and four, then

1706
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 3: six and five, seven and five, seven and six, eight

1707
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 3: and six, eight and seven. If we're still having these

1708
01:25:56,280 --> 01:26:01,599
Speaker 3: conversations deeper and deeper into the season, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1709
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 3: But I think when when you get to that seven

1710
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:08,639
Speaker 3: and six or that eight and seven, then you gotta

1711
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:10,640
Speaker 3: start listen. We gotta we gotta find it now, we

1712
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 3: gotta find who we are, and we gotta we gotta

1713
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 3: pour gas on it.

1714
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 2: Uh.

1715
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:18,599
Speaker 1: That's that's it. But right now, I still think they've

1716
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 1: got it in the tank.

1717
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 2: Break time for us here when we come back, some

1718
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 2: final thoughts on the tweet sheet, and maybe a phone

1719
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:26,760
Speaker 2: call if we have enough time here on one Bill's Live,

1720
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 2: stay tuned. I gonna squeeze Mike and Alton in here

1721
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:49,680
Speaker 2: right before we're off the air.

1722
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:50,599
Speaker 1: What do you got for his? Mike?

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Speaker 8: Hey, guys, how you doing good? So you know basically

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Speaker 8: what I want to see real quick, and then I'll

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Speaker 8: hang up with is about Josh, like ten Dorsy gets

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Speaker 8: all the blame. I understand that, and I know he's

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Speaker 8: not Dayball, but I mean, hey, we might let this

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Speaker 8: guy go and he could be the greatest of all time.

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Speaker 8: Who knows, you know, we got to work with him.

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Speaker 8: I mean, honestly, with with with Josh. I've noticed with

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Speaker 8: these losses after seeing the All twenty two and listening

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Speaker 8: to lockdown bills broadcasts and you guys, and I'm just

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Speaker 8: seeing that during these these these drive killers, like a

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Speaker 8: lot of them are Josh and and honestly, and uh,

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Speaker 8: you know, I don't know, you know, we could, you know,

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Speaker 8: speculate what it is. You know, it could be a

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Speaker 8: million different things. But I'm just wondering what you guys

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Speaker 8: think about Josh and when these when these drive killers happen,

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Speaker 8: do you think he gets nervous? Do you think like

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Speaker 8: you know, because it's not all in ten. So I

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Speaker 8: just wanted to get your view.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'll say this too.

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Speaker 3: It's been my observation for not just Josh, but all

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Speaker 3: every quarterback you could name, including Mahomes and Marino and

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Speaker 3: and l Way and you can go down the list.

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Speaker 1: There's always you know, a better option.

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Speaker 3: Than one when they throw it when it's not open

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Speaker 3: and for whatever reason they can't get to the person

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Speaker 3: or whatever. But it's a it's a chronic problem with quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: It's the biggest challenge they have. Some guys miss fewer

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Speaker 3: than that, fewer the guys than they don't. But just

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Speaker 3: think about this, Josh is leading the league in completion percentage.

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Speaker 3: He's doing it as well as anybody in the league.

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Speaker 3: So you kind of got to start there and say

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Speaker 3: he's doing pretty well.

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Speaker 2: Right, and I think.

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Speaker 4: You're not.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you can't expect perfection. The defense is trying

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Speaker 2: to do what they can do also to thwart any

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Speaker 2: kind of big play you're trying to make. I mean,

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Speaker 2: they're getting paid two on the other side. So he's

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Speaker 2: not gonna be perfect every week, but more often than not,

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Speaker 2: he's gonna help you win a football game. Big show

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Speaker 2: for you Tomorrow, We've got field Yates from ESPN and

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Speaker 2: NFL Networks James Palmer to talk Broncos with us. We'll

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Speaker 2: see it one