Speaker 1: You know, my buddy Chris Cuomo has been on News
Speaker 1: Nation all week long discussing Elon Musk in the Department
Speaker 1: of Government Efficiency, a subject that has spurren a lot
Speaker 1: of debate nationwide. He started by breaking down some falsehoods
Speaker 1: regarding claims about USAID.
Speaker 2: Take a listen to this, please.
Speaker 3: Did USAID send two million to Guatemala for sex change surgeries?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: First, they only got three hundred and fifty grand and
Speaker 3: the money went for a lot more than surgery.
Speaker 4: We help poor countries.
Speaker 3: Is that now bad? And if you say yeah, America first,
Speaker 3: why do you think we do it?
Speaker 2: If we stop?
Speaker 4: Do you really believe that.
Speaker 3: What goes bad there doesn't affect us here?
Speaker 2: Here's a hint.
Speaker 3: Most migrants are leaving what distressed places less distressed there.
Speaker 3: Let's need to come here. Okay, So you look at
Speaker 3: the next one fifty five million to strengthen Libya's whatever
Speaker 3: financial Did we do that?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: But why didn't mass tell you the project started during
Speaker 3: the Trump administration?
Speaker 4: Why would he leave that out? He want you to
Speaker 4: get angry.
Speaker 2: About something, but not blame the guy who did it.
Speaker 3: Same thing with complaining about money for tourism in Egypt.
Speaker 3: Trump did it. So if it's so stupid, is in
Speaker 3: Trump the stupid one? Or does he really believe you.
Speaker 2: Are because he doesn't think you're gonna check? How about that?
Speaker 2: How about that?
Speaker 1: The latest flash point in the slashing of government entities
Speaker 1: surround Social Security, who's getting paid and whether or not
Speaker 1: some recipients may be long gone from this earth.
Speaker 2: Clomo had something to say about that as well.
Speaker 3: Take a listen, and now he's claiming massive fraud at
Speaker 3: Social Security Administration.
Speaker 2: Now this program matters, but.
Speaker 3: Not to him because he's already botching it. In favor
Speaker 3: of heat over Light, he shared this screenshot. All the
Speaker 3: MAGA and the pod bros with their ski caps and
Speaker 3: their big cans on their head went crazy.
Speaker 4: Look at this.
Speaker 3: Millions of people above the age of one hundred are
Speaker 3: receiving Social Security.
Speaker 2: This is the.
Speaker 3: Biggest fraud ever. This was to back up the claim
Speaker 3: in the Oval Office that many people receiving Social Security
Speaker 3: are falsely aged one hundred and fifty years old.
Speaker 4: What a scam? So stupid? How did we miss it?
Speaker 3: Because it's bs We did some basic research and once again,
Speaker 3: the situation with Social Security is not what mister Musk
Speaker 3: suggests Social Security uses this antiquated computer language called cobal cobol.
Speaker 3: Now on that system, if a birthdate is missing, it
Speaker 3: automatically codes for May twenty, eighteen seventy five. Why this
Speaker 3: whole story that goes with it, But that's the answer.
Speaker 3: Eighteen seventy five is one hundred and fifty years ago.
Speaker 3: I thought he had these genius coders. They didn't know that?
Speaker 1: Or is he just.
Speaker 3: Guessing that you wouldn't know that and you wouldn't find out.
Speaker 2: Again, it's the ladder. It's the ladder.
Speaker 1: It's an accusation on my part because I'm not inside
Speaker 1: the head of Elon Musk, but certainly that clearly appears
Speaker 1: to be the case. The reality is is that when
Speaker 1: you look at the Department of Government agency, I don't
Speaker 1: have a problem with it in theory. I have a
Speaker 1: problem with who's been put in place to oversee it.
Speaker 1: First of all, Elon Musk isn't a government employee. He's
Speaker 1: basically a consultant to the president. He isn't somebody that
Speaker 1: needed to be confirmed by the Senate or anything like that.
Speaker 1: He's not receiving a check. So essentially he gets to
Speaker 1: operate with relative impunity. Now, of course, the President Donald
Speaker 1: Trump has said on the record, I will be watching him,
Speaker 1: I will be supervising him. Trust me, trust me, trust me,
Speaker 1: and the cult like following that he has clearly people
Speaker 1: are going to do that because their mentality is is
Speaker 1: that he's the president of the United States's the forty
Speaker 1: seven president of the United States of America. He wanted
Speaker 1: a fair and square election rather convincingly, regardless of what
Speaker 1: the Democrats want to say about it was the only
Speaker 1: forty nine point eight percent of the forty eight point
Speaker 1: three percent demity won convincingly, and he has a mandate,
Speaker 1: even though they want to try to say he doesn't
Speaker 1: have a mandate. When you win all the swing states,
Speaker 1: when you improve in democratic graphics like the blacks, the Latinos,
Speaker 1: the young voters, when you've upgraded in fifty counties for
Speaker 1: crying out loud, no, you've won convincingly.
Speaker 2: That's what it is.
Speaker 1: And because he has that trust, he's able to get
Speaker 1: away with saying that for now. But when you see
Speaker 1: the kind of latitude that Elon Musk has at his disposal,
Speaker 1: when you see the access to private information that ultimately
Speaker 1: he is going to get at least purportedly.
Speaker 2: So it does make you a bit nervous.
Speaker 1: It really really does not to mention the fact that
Speaker 1: some of the stuff that he has said is not true,
Speaker 1: as Chris Wolmore pointed out, So security not true, Guatemalia
Speaker 1: that surgeries and not true, Tounisia not true? What else
Speaker 1: is not true? I don't know how much money was
Speaker 1: legitimately wasted. I want to know the answer to that question.
Speaker 1: Not only do I want to know how much money
Speaker 1: has been wasted, I want to know who wasted it,
Speaker 1: who appropriated those funds to certain places? Was it legit,
Speaker 1: was it excessive? What money is missing? How much is missing?
Speaker 1: Where did it go?
Speaker 2: I want to know all of that. That's just me.
Speaker 1: That's how I feel about it. And all I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you is is that again. I'm gonna remind you
Speaker 1: I'm a registered independent. I'm gonna remind you. You've seen
Speaker 1: Joshapiro on this show. Governor Philid Pennsylvania. You've seen Wes
Speaker 1: Moore on this show, Governor of Maryland. You've seen Eric
Speaker 1: Adams on this show. Mayor of New York. You said,
Speaker 1: but you've also seen Byron Donald on this show. You've
Speaker 1: seen Sean Hannity on this show. Megan Kelly is invited
Speaker 1: on you show, Marco Rubio is invited on this show.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you the names of the people. I'll
Speaker 1: personally want Megan Kelly, Marco Rubio, Pete Haig Seth jd Vance,
Speaker 1: Vice President jd Vance, Senator Ted Cruz because I've always
Speaker 1: wanted to talk to him, Senator Lindsey Graham as well.
Speaker 1: I like Lindsey Graham sometimes, and of course the President himself,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. I'm not really that interested in talking to
Speaker 1: Elon Musk. Let him do what he does. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about the elected officials, the people that the American people
Speaker 1: chose or elected officials confirmed. Talk about those dudes. That's
Speaker 1: what I want to see. That's why I want to
Speaker 1: talk to I don't want anybody to think for one
Speaker 1: second that you're watching this show and all you want
Speaker 1: to see is liberals, Democrats, etc. Bill O'Reilly's been on
Speaker 1: this show. He's coming back on. I want to Andrew
Speaker 1: Cormo on this show too. In light of the charges
Speaker 1: being dropped by the DOJ forcing the Southern District of
Speaker 1: New York to drop those charges against Eric Adams, I
Speaker 1: want him back on. Nobody's running, nobody's hiding, but nobody's
Speaker 1: gonna be unfair either. But this stuff, the Department of
Speaker 1: Government efficiency, that's not very efficient when you look at
Speaker 1: what Chris Cormore pointed out, it's not very efficient at all.
Speaker 1: And since this man is so brilliant and being utilized
Speaker 1: by a president because of his brilliants, I don't expect mistakes,
Speaker 1: which means, if they are one, are you as efficient
Speaker 1: as the president claimed?
Speaker 2: And if you're not, if that's not it, will you
Speaker 2: purposefully purposefully or purposely disingenuous? Just a legitimate question.
Speaker 1: Joining me now to discuss all of this and to
Speaker 1: try to provide some clarity is none other than the man,
Speaker 1: the myth, the legend himself, my brother, the.
Speaker 2: One and only, Chris Cuomo. What's going on?
Speaker 4: Big Time? How are you? Stephen A? Is one of one.
Speaker 1: It's good to see you, man, It's good to see you.
Speaker 1: I can't say enough about how much I appreciate. And
Speaker 1: I played the sound of you, the footage of you
Speaker 1: talking on your show Cuoma on News Nation every weeknight
Speaker 1: at eight pm easton Standard time. I played the clip
Speaker 1: of you talking about Doge and talking about social security,
Speaker 1: talking about supposed gender surgeries and Guatemalia and all of
Speaker 1: this other stuff. As you sit back and reflect to
Speaker 1: zero in on DOGE itself, why did you feel the
Speaker 1: need to do so, and what have you gathered from
Speaker 1: your research about the Department of Government efficiency.
Speaker 3: So let's start with what should be obvious. Everybody should
Speaker 3: be in favor of finding waste fraud and abuse. And
Speaker 3: the idea that I'm inclined or anyone be inclined to
Speaker 3: be against the effort reeks of partisan politics.
Speaker 4: So of course this is great.
Speaker 3: And nobody has ever failed to find waste fraud and
Speaker 3: abuse different name, different ways, every administration, Reagan, Clinton, Obama,
Speaker 3: everybody has let's find waste fraud and abuse, and they.
Speaker 4: Have found it.
Speaker 3: Every time government is huge, mistakes are going to be made,
Speaker 3: Intentional errors are going to be made. Those does not
Speaker 3: bother me as an effort doesn't bother me that they're
Speaker 3: using an outsider bothers me a little bit that they
Speaker 3: keep being wrong about things, And it starts to smell
Speaker 3: like they are intentionally trying to get people to think
Speaker 3: that everything government does sucks and that is irresponsible, And
Speaker 3: it feels like more heat than light. And if the
Speaker 3: reason we're bringing on in Elon instead of having Congress
Speaker 3: do it is because he's better at it, why does
Speaker 3: he keep.
Speaker 4: Getting it wrong?
Speaker 3: And now they say they're going to give out a
Speaker 3: five thousand dollars diffidend by giving us twenty percent of
Speaker 3: two trillion dollars or whatever the number is. They don't
Speaker 3: know what the number is. I thought this was about
Speaker 3: getting the deficit down. Now they're saying they're going to
Speaker 3: give us checks. It reeks of overpromising and setting up
Speaker 3: and under delivery. So that's my angle on it. Efficiencies
Speaker 3: are good, finding waste fraud abuse great. The fact that
Speaker 3: Trump is doing it, so what it's not bad just
Speaker 3: because he's doing it or Elon Musk is doing it,
Speaker 3: But how they do it matters.
Speaker 4: And all this hype stephen A it bothers me.
Speaker 2: What do you think the intent is?
Speaker 1: Assuming that they're getting these things wrong and they're doing
Speaker 1: it purposefully, they're being disingenuous about it.
Speaker 2: What could possibly be the.
Speaker 1: Benefit from doing that? Is that painting the the government
Speaker 1: as corrupt because it will facilitate Trump's agenda down the
Speaker 1: line leading into the midterms.
Speaker 2: What could it be.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's it. Musk hates government. He has
Speaker 4: said it many, many times, many different ways.
Speaker 3: He has obvious personal incentive to pretend that there's a
Speaker 3: better way than our government. And you know, you got
Speaker 3: to read the disconnect between the Musk and the Oval Office,
Speaker 3: who Steven.
Speaker 4: I was very impressed by.
Speaker 3: We talked about it a little bit in private that
Speaker 3: I thought he was really good. I thought it was
Speaker 3: bad for him because I thought he outshined the president
Speaker 3: and you know what happens when we do that. But
Speaker 3: the difference between him there and on Twitter, I mean,
Speaker 3: he's just like you know, just in the amplification of
Speaker 3: absurdity business on Twitter. And I don't believe he can
Speaker 3: be this wrong this often. So I think it's intentional.
Speaker 3: And the responses always give them time, Give them time.
Speaker 3: It's not about time. Telling the truth, isn't about time.
Speaker 3: Showing receipts of what you say you found, isn't about time.
Speaker 3: You can do it in real time. I'm not coming
Speaker 3: after them about the price economy. I know two and
Speaker 3: three people think he should spend more time on it.
Speaker 3: I know that people are worried that prices are going
Speaker 3: the wrong way. I know that he promised something that
Speaker 3: he didn't deliver, which was quick change. I'm not chasing
Speaker 3: him on that because I knew he was fos when
Speaker 3: he said it during the campaign, because I knew it
Speaker 3: would take time.
Speaker 4: And we'll see what his policies do.
Speaker 3: He hasn't even had a budget in yet, so I'm
Speaker 3: being reasonable about it. But what they can do right now,
Speaker 3: they should do right now, and that's showing receipts. Let
Speaker 3: me see where these dividend checks are going to come from.
Speaker 3: I don't buy it.
Speaker 1: How concerned are you by the Democrats reaction on Capitol Hill?
Speaker 2: We saw of protest.
Speaker 1: We saw people being a bit vociferous, to say the least,
Speaker 1: and saying some things that I didn't think was the
Speaker 1: most advisable thing to say. I think they came across
Speaker 1: as people that was still campaigning, as opposed to recognizing
Speaker 1: this is the new power and office.
Speaker 2: Y'all lost.
Speaker 1: There's a different mandate and you got to accept that
Speaker 1: and might be and might be inclined to act a
Speaker 1: little bit differently, but that's not what transpired. How do
Speaker 1: you feel about what you've seen from the humans of
Speaker 1: the world and others on Capitol Hill.
Speaker 3: I can't put it any better than that they're still
Speaker 3: in campaign mode.
Speaker 4: Sounds right.
Speaker 3: It seems like anything that Trump or Musk does they
Speaker 3: have to condemn, and they have to condemn it on
Speaker 3: the basis of the people personally. Trump is a Nazi,
Speaker 3: Musk has apartheid roots, And to me, it just proves
Speaker 3: they haven't learned their lesson yet that they should be
Speaker 3: in a better idea business. And they do seem like
Speaker 3: they're defending the status quo. They're just defending the establishment,
Speaker 3: and I don't think that's where you want to be
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 4: You want to be in the business.
Speaker 3: Is better, and they seem like they're still in the
Speaker 3: business of painting the other side as worse. And a
Speaker 3: little of it that sounds like semantics or rhetorical device,
Speaker 3: but I don't think it is. I think it reads
Speaker 3: to people as Listen, I don't like the guy either,
Speaker 3: or maybe I do, but either way, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: I just want stuff to get better for me and
Speaker 3: my family. Are you about that or you just about
Speaker 3: comparative advantage over the other side, And they have to
Speaker 3: find a better answer to that question. And you know,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of this going on over. There's a
Speaker 3: lot of hand ringing going on on the left, and
Speaker 3: to me, that's almost like masturbatory. You know, it's not
Speaker 3: really about getting them to a better place. When they
Speaker 3: are at their best, Democrats, they are speaking to the
Speaker 3: masses with dynamic messengers who are taking on the hard
Speaker 3: work of showing that things can be more light than dark.
Speaker 3: The Republicans starting with the you Know in our Lifetime
Speaker 3: the Contract with America nineteen ninety three for Nu Gingrich
Speaker 3: him saying that Republicans need to learn how to get mean,
Speaker 3: and they took toughness as an advantage and it has
Speaker 3: worked well for them.
Speaker 4: The Democrats are not going to win a bully contest.
Speaker 3: They're not going to win a tough guide contest, and
Speaker 3: they shouldn't want them. They should be in the business
Speaker 3: of better You want to find efficiencies, awesome. If I
Speaker 3: were they, I'd say, can't wait for the dividend check
Speaker 3: where are you getting it from?
Speaker 4: Because we have some ideas. You say you're going to
Speaker 4: find two trillion dollars.
Speaker 3: I think you got to get rid of the DOJ,
Speaker 3: the Department of Education, and a huge chunk out of
Speaker 3: Medicare Medicaid and a twenty five percent decreased in social
Speaker 3: Security contributions back to the people who paid in to
Speaker 3: reach that number.
Speaker 4: Is that your plan?
Speaker 3: That's what they should be doing, but that's not what
Speaker 3: they're doing.
Speaker 4: So you're right to call it out.
Speaker 1: Is it possible based off of what you just explained,
Speaker 1: that that's why the false information is being put out
Speaker 1: there by Musk to some degree and obviously Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: who says that he's watching him personally, because I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: if this is the kind of thing that can spark
Speaker 1: outrage from the Democrats, right, then you get the Democrats
Speaker 1: to act that way, and then you're able to say, see,
Speaker 1: look at them, same o, same o. They just don't
Speaker 1: get it. And they're probably acting this way because we're
Speaker 1: noticing the kind of corruption that was taking place on
Speaker 1: this side while they were running this country.
Speaker 2: Is it possible that that's the incentive behind all of this.
Speaker 4: I don't think it's possible. I think it's probable. The
Speaker 4: last part.
Speaker 3: I mean, look, doesn't it sound like that to you?
Speaker 3: Doesn't it sound how like everything they find is kind
Speaker 3: of on the Democrats? I mean, you know, one of
Speaker 3: the interesting points of analysis that we've done, and I'm
Speaker 3: telling you. Look, I have a team, and on my
Speaker 3: own enterprising I can dig very deep into things with
Speaker 3: sources and research.
Speaker 4: I have not had to do.
Speaker 3: That here To find that some of the things that
Speaker 3: they're calling out as waste or crazy or whatever adjective
Speaker 3: you want to put on it started under Trump and
Speaker 3: they're just ignoring it. Shows you what this is really
Speaker 3: about is that it's about blaming Democrats for the status quo,
Speaker 3: and I think the Democrats are playing right into it, and.
Speaker 2: You go ahead, go ahead. I'm sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 3: I just feel like AOC is the crystallization of this
Speaker 3: for me. And again I'm not anti AOC. I respect
Speaker 3: her pursuit of passion. I respect that she's built this
Speaker 3: big platform for herself. I think she's got a lot
Speaker 3: more rich than residence. Meaning I don't know that what
Speaker 3: she says matters as much as the number of her following.
Speaker 3: But I think she's kind of the poster boy right
Speaker 3: now for handling this the wrong way.
Speaker 1: And why what specifically has she done when you mentioned
Speaker 1: her handling it the wrong way?
Speaker 4: She seems to be an apologist for the set quo.
Speaker 3: And everything with her is personal musk is dumb, Trump's
Speaker 3: an asshole, you know whatever it is. It's like all
Speaker 3: like you're talking about somebody at a fraternity party, you know,
Speaker 3: as opposed to being a leader and having a better
Speaker 3: way and showing that you have better ideas. Proving that
Speaker 3: Elon and Musk are imperfect is going to be easy.
Speaker 4: The problem is nobody thinks you're perfect either.
Speaker 3: And in fact, as you said, and I got to
Speaker 3: tell you, I said it the time, I said it
Speaker 3: repeatedly on TV off TV Man, did you nail it
Speaker 3: on Bill Maher's show by saying that not only did
Speaker 3: they get beaten by a guy who's one of the
Speaker 3: most unpopular politicians in modern history, but the Democrats have
Speaker 3: to wake up to the proposition that more people thought
Speaker 3: that Donald Trump reflected normalcy more than the Democrats do.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know when you said that, every once
Speaker 3: in a while, when it comes to like the pursuit
Speaker 3: of thought and reason and understanding, somebody just puts it
Speaker 3: right and it just hits you, like when you get
Speaker 3: just enough salsa on a chip. No, I'm talking about
Speaker 3: when you get just enough case on.
Speaker 4: The tip where you're like, that's why I'm here. That
Speaker 4: was that line. That's exactly what happened.
Speaker 3: More people thought that Donald Trump reflected normal more.
Speaker 4: Than the Democrat offerings, and that when you very embarrassed.
Speaker 1: Now when when you talk about what Trump did, what
Speaker 1: programs he started that fell in the usaid, can you
Speaker 1: be specific about what those programs are based on?
Speaker 3: A couple of the like the tore in the Egypt
Speaker 3: thing that they came out with where we gave all
Speaker 3: this money to tour Egypt. You know it was unstarted
Speaker 3: under him. There was a couple of those other programs.
Speaker 3: Now here's what Trump has. Then nobody else gets the
Speaker 3: benefit of. If this was on stephen A. Smith, and
Speaker 3: I said, hey, steven A, you did that too, you'd
Speaker 3: have a problem, not Trump, whether it's the vaccine or
Speaker 3: the boosters or anything. Trump gets a pass. Why does
Speaker 3: Trump get a pass when nobody else gets a pass?
Speaker 3: Because he is seen differently by by his base. Most
Speaker 3: bases see their people as their agents. He is their
Speaker 3: spirit animal. He is their ambition to disrupt and destroy
Speaker 3: what they believe is against them. So they will not
Speaker 3: go bad on him because that would be them going
Speaker 3: bad on that ambition and that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 4: So being in the Trump sucks. Business is a bad business.
Speaker 1: You're in great shape. You got your big chest, out,
Speaker 1: your arms and everything like that. The top, the word
Speaker 1: on the top says angry. That's on your shirt. Why
Speaker 1: why are you wearing that shirt?
Speaker 4: Because I love the podcast that PJ.
Speaker 3: Rykoff does and it used to be called The Angry
Speaker 3: American now it's called The Independent Americans. But I believe
Speaker 3: in anger, anger as passion of pursuit, not anger as animus.
Speaker 3: You know you wouldn't have me on you know, Steven,
Speaker 3: you're a tough guy. You're a strong guy, but you're
Speaker 3: a sweet guy. You don't like bullies. I want to
Speaker 3: hear bullies, and neither do I. But anger is a
Speaker 3: good thing. If you're angry about something, good, work harder
Speaker 3: at it. If you're angry about something, great, change it.
Speaker 3: If you're angry about something, use that passion, use that energy,
Speaker 3: use that provocation to get yourself to a better place.
Speaker 3: There's nothing more satisfied than saying, oh, you don't think
Speaker 3: I can, You don't think I can do this? Now
Speaker 3: you kissed me off, and I'm coming for you. I'll
Speaker 3: prove it to you great. It's all how you direct it.
Speaker 3: I have no problem with people being outraged. There are
Speaker 3: a lot of things that are outrageous. There are a
Speaker 3: lot of things that are enraging.
Speaker 4: I'm enraged.
Speaker 3: I'm enraged at myself. I'm angry at me for not
Speaker 3: being able to make things more clear, make them more obvious,
Speaker 3: be more productive about how I help people be critical
Speaker 3: thinkers and make their own choices instead of getting pushed
Speaker 3: into silos.
Speaker 4: So I'm cool with anger, it's just how you direct it.
Speaker 1: With that being said, I mean, as we go on
Speaker 1: from here, I'm just thinking along the line of where
Speaker 1: is the Democratic Party gonna go? Should you shut up
Speaker 1: and let Trump do his thing, expose himself, probably before
Speaker 1: the midterms, which would position you to make some noises
Speaker 1: and kind of recover some seats in the House. Or
Speaker 1: do you raise Holy Hell orbeit in a different way
Speaker 1: than you've been doing. If you're the Democratic Party, where
Speaker 1: do they go from here? In light of what we're
Speaker 1: seeing from Trump and Musk specifically.
Speaker 4: They have to be in the business of better.
Speaker 3: They're gonna have opportunities in the budgeting process to show
Speaker 3: that one Trump is being pushed to do things that
Speaker 3: he said he wouldn't do.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: You know there's a common phenomenon in politics where people
Speaker 3: sometimes most times they're motivated to their own self interest. Okay,
Speaker 3: sometimes they're motivated to something that's against their self interest,
Speaker 3: and that is happening in the MAGA movement. If this
Speaker 3: guy gets convinced, and I don't like to give him
Speaker 3: the excuse, but this is just how I see the dynamic.
Speaker 3: If the Republicans get him to take a bite out
Speaker 3: of Social Security, a bite out of Medicaid. I'm not
Speaker 3: talking about waste, fraud, and abuse. I'm talking about bone,
Speaker 3: not fat. Okay, I'm talking about muscle and bone. I
Speaker 3: think that there is an opportunity in that.
Speaker 4: To get back to the masses.
Speaker 3: Because Medicaid, you can feel any way you want about it.
Speaker 3: Ever since they put it into practice in nineteen sixty
Speaker 3: five is an extension of the Social Security Administration.
Speaker 4: The need has only grown.
Speaker 3: Five out of eight people in nursing homes, one in
Speaker 3: ten people are what they call food and secure. We
Speaker 3: used to call it four hungry. One in six kids
Speaker 3: are Medicaid. And it used to it was supposed to
Speaker 3: be like seventy thirty state money, federal money. Now it's
Speaker 3: fifty to fifty and sometimes sixty five to thirty five
Speaker 3: federal money. The states can't carry the load, and the
Speaker 3: Republican states, some of them, tried to seem austere and
Speaker 3: refuse expansion during the ACA to kind of smite Obama,
Speaker 3: to spite him, not smite him.
Speaker 4: God does that. And they have referenda in some of
Speaker 4: those states because people need it.
Speaker 3: So they're gonna be opportunities in the budgeting process for
Speaker 3: Democrats to be in the business of better that you
Speaker 3: don't have to cut Medicaid, you don't have to cut
Speaker 3: for the poor when you can go after the rich
Speaker 3: without without creating pain the same way.
Speaker 4: They're gonna be opportunities.
Speaker 3: But if they're obsessed with playing gotcha and saying that
Speaker 3: everything he does is terrible, they're gonna stay right where
Speaker 3: they are and we're gonna have another aberration, which is
Speaker 3: a midterm cycle where the incumbent doesn't lose seats first
Speaker 3: time out. If they keep it this way, stephen A,
Speaker 3: that's what's gonna happen to them again, nothing changes. If
Speaker 3: nothing changes.
Speaker 1: Before I let you go, I'm not gonna say much
Speaker 1: without you're okay, But we've got an announcement to make
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Speaker 4: Stephen A. Doesn't like this.
Speaker 3: Although my voice has gotten drowneded out in the chorus
Speaker 3: of just praise this guy gets.
Speaker 4: On a regular basis. I know he's paying for these pieces.
Speaker 4: I know he's paying for these pieces.
Speaker 3: Okay, but you know, everybody wants Stephen A to be president.
Speaker 3: I would never wish that on a friend, but I
Speaker 3: will say that, I will say this.
Speaker 4: About what we're going to announce tonight.
Speaker 3: Nobody's ever done anything like it, because nobody has ever
Speaker 3: had the ambition of being on an even playing field
Speaker 3: with people who have different ideas. But it's absolutely what
Speaker 3: this country needs and will benefit from for this slice
Speaker 3: of the country that is open, critical thinkers.
Speaker 4: Who want ideas weighed and don't want to be siloed.
Speaker 3: They want to be exposed to really strong representations of
Speaker 3: different versions of what happening and why I.
Speaker 4: Believe that Stephen A.
Speaker 3: Smith is going to be in short order the hub
Speaker 3: of conversation in this country. Everybody wants to talk to him, agree, disagree, like, dislike.
Speaker 4: They all want to talk to him. That's his magic.
Speaker 4: God gives everybody something and it's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: And to be part of that, that growth of Stephen
Speaker 3: A into something that I believe we really need in
Speaker 3: our culture. More than I've ever even benefited from him
Speaker 3: in sport and I have, I love him. He's made
Speaker 3: sports so much more enriching for me, nothing like what
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna do with public affairs. So what
Speaker 3: we're announcing tonight is a one of one thing that
Speaker 3: has a collaborative idea of partners, and I think it
Speaker 3: is going to not only is it unique right, which
Speaker 3: is always nice.
Speaker 4: It's nice to be part of something that hasn't been done,
Speaker 4: but I think it's suits and needs Stephen that I
Speaker 4: think you feel uniquely.
Speaker 3: I got to figure out how I'm going to provide value,
Speaker 3: but I know how you're going to provide value just
Speaker 3: by how you dress.
Speaker 1: Please, please, please, I get back. I have value because
Speaker 1: I listen to you. You make me look smart because
Speaker 1: all I do is stop you what you're saying.
Speaker 2: That's how I do it. That's how I do it.
Speaker 2: I still acknowledge from you, my brother. That's what I do.
Speaker 4: I know you're paying for those pieces. I know.
Speaker 2: Here you go and I'll see you tonight.
Speaker 4: Man, I find out who place these pieces. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: you like ugly on an eighth.
Speaker 1: There you stop it, stop it, Chris Cuoma Man, love you, man,
Speaker 1: Appreciate you.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: I see you tonight.
Speaker 4: I love you. Thank you for being my right ma. Man.
Speaker 2: The one and only Chris Cuomo right here on the
Speaker 2: Stephen A.
Speaker 1: Smith Show tonight eight pm Eastern Standard Time, News Nation.
Speaker 1: The announcement is coming. You'll know what I'm talking about
Speaker 1: when you see it.