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Speaker 2: Harrison dies for the up zone, He's in Touchdown What

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Speaker 2: Tackle for a Loss by guess who? Collias Campbell.

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Speaker 1: The latest news and notes from the insiders who cover

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Speaker 3: Touchdown Trey McBride.

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Speaker 2: Heck of a play by the all world tight end

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Speaker 2: Tray McBride. Oh that was nasty right there, right swam

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Speaker 2: the ground by Budda Baker like a torpedo. He came

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Speaker 2: flying into the backfield. I ain't scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic.

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Speaker 2: So you know how the majority of NFL games come

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Speaker 2: down to the last couple of minutes. I've heard that

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Speaker 2: the same can go for holiday shopping, just saying for

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Speaker 2: a friend, and there's nothing wrong with that. I don't

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Speaker 2: think we should judge. There's no style points in winning

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Speaker 2: an NFL game. You just get the win or you

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Speaker 2: take the l you know, same thing with gift giving.

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Speaker 2: That's what I say, Danny.

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Speaker 3: You feel better about your procrastination by saying that off

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Speaker 3: the top.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not quite the two minute drive yet. I

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Speaker 2: know we're thirty six hours out or so as we

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Speaker 2: Not quite. We're in four minute mechanics right now. I

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Speaker 2: would say in terms of, you know, looking at the

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Speaker 2: game clock.

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Speaker 3: So you don't have gifts.

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Speaker 2: I do have a plan though, as of about five

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Speaker 2: minutes ago. I have a plan that's a five minutes

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Speaker 2: no gifts the.

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Speaker 3: Day before all stores are closed.

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Speaker 2: You know what's really sad too, is these big time

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Speaker 2: NFL players. You know we like to joke with these

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Speaker 2: guys sometimes. Oh you don't do that. You have people

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Speaker 2: for that. Honestly, for the first time ever, I think

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Speaker 2: I can say I should have people for this gift giving.

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Speaker 2: And they're called two teenagers at Cosa Calvic. That's what

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Speaker 2: these teenagers should be.

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Speaker 4: So you don't shop for your own kids.

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Speaker 2: You should outsource this, Darren, right, you did you when

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Speaker 2: the kids were living home. Did you outsource at some point?

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Speaker 5: I don't trust my kids to empty the dishwasher. My

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Speaker 5: favorite tweet of the week though, By the way, this

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Speaker 5: is up to two hundred and eighty eight thousand likes.

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Speaker 5: Stages of Christmas shopping one. There's plenty of time too.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, that is good. Yes, it gets late quick,

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Speaker 2: and the whole Christmas shopping is always.

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Speaker 5: You know what, though we've done We've done NFL coverage

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Speaker 5: for a long time, all three of us. I mean

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Speaker 5: the November December fly by pretty quickly. Like if you

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Speaker 5: don't have some seeds of pulling this off before you

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Speaker 5: go to training camp, Paul, it's a problem.

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Speaker 2: Wow, okay, all right, there we go some nice uh,

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Speaker 2: some words of advice. It's like I'm sitting next to

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Speaker 2: Clays Campbell right now, just a moting wisdom and say advice.

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Speaker 4: I wish I could talk like Clais.

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Speaker 2: How about Clayis with his second block in as many games?

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Speaker 2: Didn't you talk to him about did you ask hibout

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Speaker 2: the art of the block?

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Speaker 4: I did just last week.

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Speaker 5: I just did a story after he blocked the field

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Speaker 5: goal and then he goes in and collapses the whole

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Speaker 5: interior on that extra point. Like I watched that, I'm like,

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Speaker 5: where the Falcons even gonna block him there? Like he

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Speaker 5: just completely like ruined everybody.

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Speaker 2: So speaking of having a plan, does he have a

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Speaker 5: My favorite part of talking to Clayus about this is

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Speaker 5: he said he's been given baby, basically carte blanche by

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Speaker 5: supposed to be, and he came up to Dante before

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Speaker 5: went and blocked it. And if you recall Jonathan Gannon

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Speaker 3: Don't want to be the person to talk Kalays Campbell.

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Speaker 5: No, well, kas Clay's admitted he's like a lot of

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Speaker 5: these guys they want blocks too, but I know I

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Speaker 2: Well. He got into a little bit of trash talking

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Speaker 2: just about Buddha's alma mater, you Dub, and Clayis felt

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Speaker 2: the need to share that he was offered a basketball

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Speaker 2: scholarship from you Dub coming out of high school. So

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Speaker 2: there you go. So that was pretty good. You know,

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Speaker 2: there were a couple other ones, so makes sense at

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Speaker 2: six foot eight, I never really thought about that, but

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Speaker 2: sure klayus on that front, all right. But you know what,

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Speaker 2: there are certain plays that aren't touchdowns that are just

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Speaker 2: really enjoyable in the game of football, right Like in baseball.

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Speaker 2: I always say I'd rather see a triple by Corbyn

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Speaker 2: lightning right balls in the gap. That dog will hunt

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Speaker 2: right and boom, He's just ripping around the bases. To me,

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Speaker 2: that's more entertaining than a ball leaving the yard like

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Speaker 2: a field goal or kick block is I don't know,

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Speaker 2: just pound for pound is like one of the most

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Speaker 2: entertaining plays in football. Am I wrong on that?

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Speaker 4: I would agree with you generally. It's funny.

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Speaker 5: That's something else Klayus noted was that he felt like

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Speaker 5: earlier in the career, it felt like because of how

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Speaker 5: they were blocking, because how the rules were, a lot

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Speaker 5: of his blocks could be blocked back towards so there

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Speaker 5: could be some kind of return, and now it's really

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Speaker 5: hard to Now you're just trying to deflect it a

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Speaker 5: little bit, and so many of them kind of trickle away.

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Speaker 5: Because if you recall Paul, his first field goal block

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Speaker 5: didn't come till two thousand and nine Jacksonville. It was

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Speaker 5: returned for a touchdown by Entrell Roll.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I think I want to say I remember that,

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Speaker 2: but as we'll find out later and wise guy, I

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Speaker 5: That's the game where Kurt Warner went twenty four out

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Speaker 5: on social media complaining that they didn't throw it to

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Speaker 3: That's good social media, ye what just Twitter at that point,

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Speaker 2: But if you're trying to block a kick and direct it,

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Speaker 2: I mean that's next level. I mean, that's like in basketball,

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Speaker 2: winning the tip and then actually getting it into the lane,

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Speaker 2: on the fly. I mean, that's that's pretty I do.

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Speaker 5: I do like the kick block is good, but I'm

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Speaker 5: still going to take for instance, just saying like a

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Speaker 3: What makes the block exciting is that they're so infrequent.

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Speaker 3: That's that's what makes it exciting or impressive. Is so

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Speaker 3: many times when you're watching from wherever you're watching a game,

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Speaker 3: when you see the kicker get ready for a field

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Speaker 3: goal or pot, unless the field goal is right fifty

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Speaker 3: really need to watch it? Right? Like at this point,

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Speaker 3: everyone kind of feels like it's guaranteed to go in.

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Speaker 3: That's what makes those blocks exciting.

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Speaker 2: The other one is a safety. Right quarterback gets nabbed

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Speaker 2: in his own end zone. Right, just doesn't happen very often.

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Speaker 2: So all right, speaking of things got late quick and

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Speaker 2: two minutes to go or so, what was your level

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Speaker 2: of confidence, Dandy? I mean, Cardinals had the ball, offense

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Speaker 2: had shown flashes two zero five to play right, Jacoby

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Speaker 2: brissaid has been there and done that. Atlanta's defense did

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Speaker 2: a remarkable job in hindsight, although I'm not sure I

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Speaker 2: job they did corralling Trey McBride, Michael Wilson, Marvin Harrison Junior.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, with just over two minutes to go,

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, especially because the Cardinals got the ball back from

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Speaker 3: a four down stuff by the defense, which was not

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Speaker 3: only which was not the only turnover on downs by

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Speaker 3: the Cardinals defense, and Arizona's offense had seen flashes, right.

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Speaker 3: It was another situation where you have a hot start

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Speaker 3: and then two miss field goals. So there was confidence

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Speaker 3: But I mean, it's disappointing to have that last opportunity

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Speaker 3: and with ninety seconds to go it ends in an interception.

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Speaker 3: Jacobe Prissett took the blame Michael Wilson took the blame

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Speaker 3: to a certain extent. It was a really nice play

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Speaker 3: by that Atlanta defender. And that's a good pass defense.

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Speaker 3: That's why they were able to take away the three

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Speaker 3: that's a very good pass defense in Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they were ranked eighth in the league coming in,

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Speaker 2: which you really wouldn't think, but it is amazing when

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Speaker 2: you're number two in sacks how much that helps your

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Speaker 2: and Jonathan Ganna answered this question multiple times, including on

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Speaker 2: Game Plan, his TV show this week, about the various

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Speaker 2: cloud coverages they used, and you know, they did have

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Speaker 2: especially sort of those intermediate areas where Trey McBride likes

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Speaker 2: to operate. And they did a good job, you know,

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Speaker 2: to boil it down to your point to one stat

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Speaker 2: in the game, Atlanta went three for three in the

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Speaker 2: red zone and the Cardinals went over for two, And

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Speaker 2: there you had a Cardinals team that of eight possessions,

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Speaker 2: six ended in fueld goal attempts, two miss field goals

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Speaker 2: for made field goals. Once again, we're kind of getting

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Speaker 2: back to that stretch earlier in the year, finish drives,

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Speaker 2: finish games. If you boil it down to, all right,

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Speaker 2: what do the Cardinals need to address in the offseason?

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Speaker 2: What would you love to see in these last two games?

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Speaker 2: If you're asking me, thanks for asking. Here's what I

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Speaker 2: would say in these last two games. I want to

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Speaker 2: see the Cardinals win a game at the horn, take

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Speaker 2: the ball, drive the length of the field, do it

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Speaker 2: less than two minutes on the clock, right, and just

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Speaker 2: just slay that dragon. Just answer that question, get the win,

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Speaker 2: but do it and you know, dramatic fashion by forging

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Speaker 2: a game winning touchdown drive at the very end.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Cardinals had three points in the second half at

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Speaker 3: this in this league, that's tough to win right now.

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Speaker 3: The Cardinals defense did a nice job kind of overall

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Speaker 3: against the Falcons offense. I mean, it's tough when Atlanta's

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Speaker 2: To be able to do that to Trey McBride and

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Speaker 5: So my question is, is, especially right now, like what

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Speaker 5: And I'm also going I mean, this is one We're

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Speaker 4: They should?

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Speaker 5: You probably are going to have some kind of shootout

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Speaker 2: Can I can I just what? Can I change what

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Speaker 4: Is that?

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Speaker 4: If the weather our gods haven't started shopping yet, just like.

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Speaker 2: You, good, I can actually get in a late request.

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Speaker 2: to the point Danny made about number eighteen. Going into

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Speaker 3: Seven total catches combined. For those three, defense is going

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Speaker 2: And by the way, Drew Petsen meeting the media on

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: He kind of said the same thing about Isaiah Adams.

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Speaker 2: thought about, yeah, well, you know, decelerating is an issue,

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Speaker 2: changing directions an issue. Well, that's guess what that can

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Speaker 2: be problematic for a receiver. We have joked He's gonna

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Speaker 5: Well, and we saw, I mean, he only had twenty

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Speaker 2: But among the things that Drew Patsy mentioned, and he

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Speaker 4: He mentioned that you're talking about on the touchdown.

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Speaker 2: On the touchdown, the failed touchdown pass and where your

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Speaker 2: identified to himself that I'm a body catcher too often.

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Speaker 2: I need to get my hands away from my body

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Speaker 2: attack that football. What did Frank Sanders say, Danny on

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Speaker 2: our pregame show, right, repeatedly thing he loves the most about.

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Speaker 2: Michael Wilson attacks the football in year three more than

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Speaker 2: that you know can obviously be incorporated and improved upon

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think he would tell you the same thing

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Speaker 3: and we've seen the positive of that. You can still

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Speaker 2: All right, Everybody ready to get cultured here? How about it?

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Speaker 2: Oh thumbs up from Darren, that's all we need. Danny

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Speaker 2: will segue.

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Speaker 3: To you getting cultured with Danny. It is not just

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Speaker 2: Am I the default uncultured philistine around here.

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Speaker 4: Yes, you got me very excited. Now.

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Speaker 3: I am on social media and consume more at pop

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Speaker 2: I think I'm being unfairly profiled. But go ahead, let's go.

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Speaker 3: I have been sitting on this news for a week,

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Speaker 3: excited to start getting cultured with this.

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Speaker 2: Wow, And she's been sitting on the news and I'm

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Speaker 3: This is for you, not for Darren, just for you.

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Speaker 3: All Right, here we go, there's Fast and Furious news.

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Speaker 3: Let's see where up to eleven. Technically it's Fast and

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Speaker 3: Furious ten Part two, so we're gonna go into eleven.

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Speaker 4: Come on, they're working on fractions now.

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Speaker 2: Editor's note, all right, I was into all the movies.

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Speaker 2: My interest started weighing around eight. Nine, got a little tough,

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna be locked in after hearing Cristiano Ronaldo

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Speaker 3: will officially start in Fast Furious eleven star Vin Diesel

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Speaker 2: Oh my, well, with all due respect, with all due respect,

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Speaker 3: That make you want to see the movie more or less?

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Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you, Based on some of the

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Speaker 2: of the movies. No, no joke, And once again, just

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Speaker 2: the star of the movie.

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Speaker 3: Please, you know what movie you might like, have you

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Speaker 3: ever seen cars?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Sure, for the kid yeah, the kids were younger.

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Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, Yeah, that might be more.

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Speaker 3: Up your alley. If you're looking for a movie that

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Speaker 2: You don't have to ask me twice to sit down

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Speaker 4: I mean jamal Ma Hundro fantastic film.

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Speaker 2: As a six year old. You know, invite me over,

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Speaker 2: We'll watch cars. Let's do it.

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Speaker 3: The Kansas City Chiefs are moving to Kansas of all places.

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Speaker 3: How about that? They will officially be leaving Kansas City, Missouri.

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Speaker 3: They've been at Arrowhead for decades, since nineteen seventy two,

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Speaker 3: so what is that fifty years? Yeah, their lease expires

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Speaker 3: there in twenty thirty and the Chiefs will head to Topeka, Kansas. Yuck.

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Speaker 2: How far is that approximately from where they can live.

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Speaker 3: It's very far. It's just the fact that you're crossing

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Speaker 5: I was interested to see if they might keep it

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Speaker 4: But it's officially going to be in Topeka.

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Speaker 3: Yes, in Topeka. So in April of twenty twenty four,

436
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Speaker 3: there was a vote that was rejected, and that would

437
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Speaker 3: have been a forty year extension off a local sales

438
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Speaker 3: tax to not only build a new Kansas City Royal Stadium,

439
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,399
Speaker 3: but also provide some pretty major arrowhead renovations. And so

440
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Speaker 3: that was rejected. So then the state of Kansas put

441
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Speaker 3: in their bid and that's where they're going in twenty

442
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Speaker 3: thirty twenty thirty one.

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Speaker 2: So and they got more money than the Raiders got

444
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Speaker 2: from Vegas. They got like one point eight billion towards

445
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Speaker 2: the stadium.

446
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Speaker 5: Wo.

447
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Speaker 2: Hello, a lot of yeah.

448
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Speaker 4: A lot of dollar dollar bills.

449
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Speaker 3: Hey, you want to talk about dollar dollar bills. The

450
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 3: powerball earnings are skyrocketing. There is a Christmas Eve drawing

451
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:50,159
Speaker 3: worth one point seven billion with a B dollars. It

452
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 3: is the fourth largest and powerball history. The cash option

453
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 3: before taxes comes out to seven hundred and eighty one

454
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Speaker 3: million dollars or four hundred and ninety two million roughly

455
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Speaker 3: after taxes, gotcha, which is also pretty crazy. If you

456
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Speaker 3: earn one point seven billion and you only get four

457
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 3: four and ninety two million, it's a pretty big difference.

458
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Speaker 3: I mean, look, I wouldn't complain that's life changing, but.

459
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Speaker 5: That's the kind of attitude the billionaires have now that

460
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 5: are making them want to get more and more money

461
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Speaker 5: when they've already got billions.

462
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Speaker 2: Well, that's that's the after taxes lump sum. See, that's

463
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Speaker 2: that's a decision I would look forward to in life.

464
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Speaker 2: Would you like the thirty year plan or the lump

465
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Speaker 2: sum of the two billion dollars? That would be an

466
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Speaker 2: you're you're.

467
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Speaker 5: The uh, you're the cultured philistine when it comes to finances, Paul,

468
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 5: you should always take the lump right, No?

469
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Speaker 2: Actually, not necessarily, not necessarily, No, it depends.

470
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Speaker 3: Well, we can't have Paul culturing us. This is my segment.

471
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Speaker 3: So you bought them in culture and you're welcome.

472
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Speaker 2: It's well done, all right, Danny.

473
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Speaker 5: Danny could do the thirty year o payout. I don't

474
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Speaker 5: know if us doing the thirty year old thirty year payouts.

475
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Speaker 2: So if the reason I didn't get to the holiday

476
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Speaker 2: shopping is because I had to make another stop for

477
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Speaker 2: the powerball tickets, is that a plausible feasible?

478
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Speaker 3: Well, would the powerball ticket be for you or you'd

479
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 3: be willing to give that to someone else?

480
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Speaker 2: That would I would not gift a powerball ticket because

481
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 2: that that has problems written all over. You know, well,

482
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Speaker 2: that's that's right. Actually, I probably make more money than

483
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Speaker 2: the power Ball if I came up with a good

484
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Speaker 2: idea on how to grift pet owners. I'm still working

485
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Speaker 2: on that, by the way. All right, so uh, that's

486
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,199
Speaker 2: all fun and well, but we make the hard segue.

487
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Speaker 2: Darren had a stat nobody wanted him to calculate, and

488
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Speaker 2: I mean nobody, and that was how many times the

489
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Speaker 2: cart has taken players off the field. I do believe

490
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Speaker 2: you missed one, although it was it wasn't season ending,

491
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Speaker 2: Mario Demurcatto. I had to leave the field somewhere on

492
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Speaker 2: the road on a cart. I don't forget where I was,

493
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Speaker 2: but obviously that was not season ending. And you know,

494
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Speaker 2: it's a question, it's impossible answer, and it's kind of

495
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Speaker 2: hard to ask. But mean, how mentally tough is it

496
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Speaker 2: when you clear the sideline not once, but twice in

497
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Speaker 2: a game to go out to midfield and tap up

498
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Speaker 2: your fallen teammate. To actually get back in the mental

499
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 2: state to play football and have to do that twice

500
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Speaker 2: in the same game, that is it is really really tough.

501
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Speaker 2: And I just don't remember a game where that's happened

502
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Speaker 2: with that sort of frequency and that sort of severity.

503
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Speaker 2: I mean, Jonathan Gannon hinted at Walter Nolan and you know,

504
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Speaker 2: quite honestly, you could hear it before you saw it

505
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Speaker 2: the injury. He was in a lot of pain, and

506
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Speaker 2: so immediately that entire building went silent. And that's one

507
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Speaker 2: of the eeriest feelings you can get during a football game.

508
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Speaker 3: It takes a toll on a team. Jacoby Brissett said

509
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Speaker 3: so much postgames, so did Kalais Campbell in front of

510
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Speaker 3: his locker at the stadium. That's tough. These are their teammates.

511
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 3: They not only know them as players on the field,

512
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Speaker 3: but also as people in the locker room and understanding

513
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:56,120
Speaker 3: how hard they are working mentally. To watch somebody that

514
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Speaker 3: you are working with throughout the week get hurt and

515
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 3: having to stay locked in on the game plan and

516
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 3: moments later go up against a two hundred and fifty

517
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,360
Speaker 3: three hundred pound offensive lineman, that's tough to do. And

518
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 3: that's with any injury, but especially to see a player

519
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 3: carted off, especially when that happened with two non contact injuries.

520
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Speaker 3: Not to say that contact injuries are necessarily easier to digest,

521
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Speaker 3: but to see Garrett Williams immediately turn around and be

522
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Speaker 3: told it's an achilles injury and those are typically not

523
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Speaker 3: short term recoveries. And then for Nolan for it to

524
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Speaker 3: be non contact, I mean, he immediately grabbed his left

525
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 3: leg before he even hit the ground, and you could tell,

526
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Speaker 3: with his helmet on still that he was emotional being

527
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Speaker 3: carted off. You could tell that he was crying and

528
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 3: he was in pain, and that this is not the

529
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Speaker 3: rookie year he expected to have. That's tough. I mean,

530
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Speaker 3: you don't ever want to set a franchise record, so

531
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Speaker 3: to say, of how many players are hurt. But the

532
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 3: Cardinals have enough play hurt that you could put a

533
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Speaker 3: full team out on the field. And that's tough to overcome.

534
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Speaker 3: It's non excuse. Every team deals with injuries, right The

535
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 3: Cardinals have had their fair share of struggles on both

536
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 3: sides of the ball, special teams as well, even when

537
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 3: they were healthier at the start of the year. There

538
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 3: are just some things, though, where you constantly feel like

539
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Speaker 3: you're running uphill.

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Speaker 5: I just I go back to I mean, you guys

541
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Speaker 5: have both made the best points, which is when you're struggling.

542
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Speaker 5: I mean, if a team is winning, and that happens obviously,

543
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Speaker 5: it takes something outy. I mean, Paul, you and I

544
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 5: were around twenty fifteen the division winning game in Philadelphia

545
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 5: where the Cardinals just ran the Eagles off the field

546
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Speaker 5: in the middle of this awesome season, and the locker

547
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 5: room was a mess afterwards because everybody was so upset.

548
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Speaker 4: Tyron Matthew was out.

549
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Speaker 5: So it affects all teams no matter how you're doing,

550
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 5: but like, especially in a season like this, and to

551
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 5: just have more body blows. And again, I'm not excusing

552
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 5: losses or what, and it's not why they lost on Sunday,

553
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 5: but you just don't want to see and especially those

554
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 5: two guys in particular who have had to deal with

555
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 5: injuries this year. Garrett Williams has dealt with them for

556
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Speaker 5: a couple of different times. And you know, again, like

557
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Speaker 5: Danny said, they're your teammates, they're people like you. They're

558
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 5: more than just you know, a cornerback and a defensive lineman.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I think you were the one who asked

560
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 2: kalay As Campbell after the game at his locker about it,

561
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 2: and here's his quote. You try to tell yourself, right,

562
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 2: next man up. But you're losing friends, You're losing guys

563
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 2: you depend on, you go to war with, have confidence with.

564
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Speaker 2: There are a lot of new faces that's on a

565
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Speaker 2: weekly basis. It seems like, yeah, it doesn't just seem

566
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Speaker 2: like it has been. You have two dozen players on

567
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 2: injured list to lead the NFL. You have the most

568
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 2: man games missed. So it's a very real and poignant situation.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I can't imagine the challenge for the coaches.

570
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 2: I know that they tried to simple by the scheme

571
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 2: against Atlanta for a couple of reasons. You know, one,

572
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins gets rid of the ball really quick. Okay.

573
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 2: Number two just we've got a lot of new dudes

574
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 2: out here and we can't risk the mental errors. And so, yes,

575
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 2: it is all a factor. And maybe the most excruciating

576
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 2: part about all this late in this season, where you've

577
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 2: already been eliminated from the playoffs, is when is Walter

578
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 2: Nolan going to come back? When is Garrett Williams going

579
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 2: to return? You know, these, unfortunately, are the gifts that

580
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 2: keep on giving into next season.

581
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't ever want a player to get hurt,

582
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 3: and it sounds selfish, but that's A good point is

583
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 3: now you're trying to look at what is a general

584
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 3: recovery time for injuries. We don't even know the extent

585
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 3: of We know that it was a knee for Nolan

586
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 3: because that was announced in the press box. We don't

587
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 3: have any specifics. We don't know if something was sprained,

588
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 3: or something was torn, or surgery is required, and all

589
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 3: we know is that it's an Achilles for Williams. If

590
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,239
Speaker 3: there's anything to be learned from this year though that,

591
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 3: we cannot. Fans cannot, media members online, cannot sit here

592
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 3: and say, Okay, if it's a knee for Walter Nolan,

593
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 3: that's typically a nine month recovery and then he should

594
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 3: be back in ten months and should be looking the

595
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 3: same at eleven months. Bijjulari will tell you very differently,

596
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 3: and that's exactly what he told us in his locker room,

597
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 3: is that people on the outside didn't know how many

598
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 3: ligaments he had torn in his knee. People didn't know

599
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 3: that his knee for a while was not responding well

600
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 3: to some of the work he was putting in, and

601
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 3: so they had to go and drain his knee. Those

602
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 3: are things that aren't shared with the media. And that's

603
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 3: why this coaching staff is so intent on not sharing

604
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 3: specific timelines is because truly, everybody in every recovery is different.

605
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 3: So it is fair and it is realistic that these

606
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 3: are going to be long term recoveries for both Nolan

607
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 3: and Williams, and that's a huge blow for two starters

608
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 3: on the defense. But we shouldn't and I'm not saying

609
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 3: we are, but more so in general, people shouldn't be saying, Okay,

610
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 3: let's assume it's a nine month recovery for injury for

611
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 3: this player and he'll be back. If anything, we've learned

612
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 3: this year, that is not how it always pans out, and.

613
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Speaker 4: We don't know exactly.

614
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Speaker 5: I think it's fair to say once you hear Achilles

615
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 5: and you see what Garrett Williams did, that we kind

616
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 5: of know what that is. Now the Nolan thing is

617
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 5: a different thing. I think we think it could be

618
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Speaker 5: what it is. But I remember six the end of

619
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 5: the twenty sixteen season, the David Johnson great season, where

620
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 5: he hurt his knee on the last play and it

621
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 5: looked ugly and it wasn't great at the Rams. Yeah,

622
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 5: and if it had happened early in the season, he

623
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 5: would have missed a lot of the season, if not

624
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 5: all of it. But it was such an injury that

625
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 5: because it happened when it did, by the time he

626
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,719
Speaker 5: got to training camp, he was back. And you're not

627
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 5: gonna know with Nolan unless he says something because it

628
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 5: is the end of the season and whatever he did,

629
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Speaker 5: it was certainly a two game injury and obviously is

630
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 5: on I are now, so it's a two game injury now.

631
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 5: Walter Nolan did put out a social media thing about

632
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 5: he didn't say what it was, but it was It

633
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 5: was enough of a speech on Instagram that you get

634
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 5: the sense, Yeah, he's gonna be gone for a while.

635
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 5: He's gonna it's gonna takes uphill, but we'll see what

636
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 5: goes on.

637
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 4: But that's that's what you talk about.

638
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 5: Whether this stuff is gonna bleed into next year, that's

639
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 5: that's when you're having a season like this. Those are

640
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 5: the conversations you have right now. You know, we just, uh,

641
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 5: while we're recording this, the Cardinals officially announced the signing

642
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 5: of kicker Joshua Cardy to the roster, but they haven't

643
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 5: done anything with Chad Ryland, So does that mean there's

644
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 5: competition right now, does that mean you want to make

645
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 5: sure you have two kickers going into the off season,

646
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 5: because now even with two games left, now you're gonna

647
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 5: start thinking about the off season and how you're gonna

648
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 5: build up this roster and making sure you have the

649
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 5: guys on the roster that you want to have as

650
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 5: you go forward. Because again, practice squad guys, they're all

651
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 5: free to sign elsewhere once the season ends. If they're

652
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 5: on the roster, you you hang on to him.

653
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,239
Speaker 3: For now once the Cardinals season ends, right, So if

654
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 3: you're on the practice squad and another team wants to

655
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 3: sign you who's making a playoff push, you could go

656
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 3: and you could play for that team.

657
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 2: It's a good reminder. Actually, yeah, that's you know. It's

658
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 2: what's remarkable is that Sunday Night Football game number twenty

659
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 2: nine the dB for the Ravens. They kept blitzing and

660
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 2: getting home against Drake May. They said he tore his

661
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 2: achilles in May and he was playing in December. That

662
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 2: is remarkable. Now, to Danny's point, that has no application

663
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 2: to anybody other than number twenty nine, because everyone has

664
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 2: their own timetable.

665
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 4: But Dot Dodd can't believe you want don't buddy Ryan there.

666
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 4: You couldn't give us a name here, Paul.

667
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 2: How about fifty Cody Simon? I thought, you know that

668
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 2: that pass breakup to start the game. He had seven tackles.

669
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 2: Looked like from all indications he was fitting the run,

670
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: running the defense a little bit better. Denzel Burke for

671
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: a fifth rounder, I had had a pick his third

672
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: of the year, Will Johnson. We asked Jonathan Ganna on Friday,

673
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 2: what more did you want to see out of Will Johnson?

674
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 2: And he said poa, which you normally don't hear associated

675
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: with a cornerback point of attack. Nick Rawl said the

676
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 2: same thing. And guess what there was Will Johnson making

677
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 2: plays on the ball, because what happened the week prior,

678
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 2: he was pretty good stride for stride with Pooka and Nico.

679
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 2: Pooka and Akoa was better at tearing the ball away

680
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 2: and making those contested catches. So I thought Will Johnson

681
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,479
Speaker 2: elevated his game. And then obviously Darius Robinson right, So

682
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 2: there were at least three to four young guys, and

683
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 2: until Walter Nolan got hurt, I mean he was flashing

684
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 2: as well.

685
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 3: That is the biggest bummer is Nolan has looked so good.

686
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 3: He just hasn't been able to stay on the field.

687
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,479
Speaker 3: Missed the first half the season with a calf injury

688
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 3: that kept him out from the start of training camp.

689
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 3: Comes back, looks good, hurts his knee, misses a few games,

690
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 3: come back, and then hurts his knee and is done

691
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 3: for the year and we'll miss the final two games.

692
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 3: It is good to see those young players, those cornerbacks specifically,

693
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 3: because that was a position room where it was a

694
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 3: lot of young players playing in the preseason, and Gannon

695
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 3: was very forthcoming about that being a position room. He

696
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 3: needed to see cleaner play from more discipline, and to

697
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 3: see those young players who all season long have been

698
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:15,439
Speaker 3: good against some really good receivers and have played consistently

699
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 3: clean football, not drawing a lot of pass interference calls right,

700
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 3: keeping their hands down. That's been good to see. Johnson

701
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 3: had some PBUs and for Burke to have his third

702
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 3: pick as a rookie is great to see and it's

703
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 3: gonna be a fun challenge for them this week of

704
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 3: two number one receivers and Jamar Chase and t Higgins

705
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 3: and one of the best quarterbacks in the league right

706
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 3: now in Joe Burrow, who is coming off a fantastic game.

707
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I mean, you're gonna go. You're gonna get

708
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 2: a lot of really good experience at Cincinnati, especially with

709
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow coming out four touchdowns, no picks, a passer

710
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 2: rating in one forty six. Yeah, that's gonna be one

711
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 2: of the definite keys to the game, no doubt about it.

712
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 2: You mentioned Buddy Ryance. That makes me want to go

713
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 2: and call for wise Guy. As we go into the

714
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,720
Speaker 2: old tub time machine. Almost certainly.

715
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: It's time for the wise Guy. The world's fastest Growing

716
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: Cardinals quiz show. The stakes are low, the winner gets

717
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: absolutely nothing. Here's your hostess with the mostess Denny sir.

718
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 3: Right, well, thank you. Applause by Darren Darren as our

719
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 3: reigning champ.

720
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 4: How about usual?

721
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 2: How about.

722
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 4: How about number one?

723
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 2: Okay, I was eliminated from the playoffs two months ago.

724
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 3: You're doing a lot better this year.

725
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 2: I did. My one rule every year is don't get

726
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 2: eliminated by Halloween. I violated my own role.

727
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 5: Paul speaking Paul on fire. He is now tied with

728
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:43,720
Speaker 5: me in the picks.

729
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 2: Hello, how about it? How about here we go?

730
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 4: It's going to be quite the stretcher on.

731
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 2: Here we go, no question one, she comes.

732
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 3: This former Bengals head coach appeared in one game as

733
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 3: the Cardinals quarterback in nineteen seventy six, throwing a single

734
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 3: pass for five yards. During his time in Cincinnati, he

735
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 3: coached former Cardinals quarterback Boomer Isison.

736
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 4: Correct, Yes, Boomers.

737
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 3: There you go. The former Bengals head coach. Who is he?

738
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 4: Is it Bruce Costlit It's not.

739
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 2: Samwich, No buzzer? Uh Samwis?

740
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 3: That's correct? Paul with the steel at it?

741
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 2: Okay, here we.

742
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 3: Go, amazing, light the lamp for Paul.

743
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 4: Paul pick a question and he can't even get it

744
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 4: right on the other side of the glass.

745
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: Let's go.

746
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, we have no hockey in this town anymore.

747
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 2: We got to light the lamp somehow. Here we go.

748
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 2: All right, let's see what number was that by?

749
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 3: I was question one?

750
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 2: I was one? All right, you know what, I'm just

751
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: gonna proceed right down the board. Give me a number two.

752
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 3: Staying away from number three. This Cincinnati area native and

753
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 3: proud Bengals fan was a singer and the boy band

754
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 3: ninety eight Degrees, and once appeared as a guest on

755
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 3: Matt Lioner's radio show ahead of a Cardinals Bengals man.

756
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that means I was hosting that show.

757
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Singer in a.

758
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 3: Boy band ninety eight degree.

759
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 2: You remember this, I do.

760
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 3: He was such a heart throb haul that.

761
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 2: That first year was unbelievable. Charles Barkley came down in person,

762
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: sat with us. Shack called into the show. I mean

763
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 2: Matt Liiner. It was a rock star his rookie year.

764
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 2: And I have no idea who the guy was. Who

765
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,240
Speaker 2: was the lead singer who joined us?

766
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:36,959
Speaker 4: And come on, it's Jessica Simpson's ex husband. It's Nick

767
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 4: Something and I can't remember is it Nick Something?

768
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 3: It is, we'll give it to you, nick La.

769
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 2: What do you mean you'll give it?

770
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 4: I didn't get that.

771
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 3: Okay, it's pretty good, Nick Lache, Yes, son of a biscuit. Okay,

772
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,240
Speaker 3: there's actually a funny story about that, this little sidebar.

773
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 3: When I was in first grade, if you did something,

774
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 3: if you did something really well and you got like

775
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 3: points or what you got rewarded, you got to choose something.

776
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 3: And there was a girl in my class who chose

777
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 3: to bring a CD so you get to play like

778
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 3: music for your class and she brought a CD from

779
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 3: ninety eight Degrees, like one of their albums, and was

780
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 3: playing songs, and she told everybody that Nick Lache was

781
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 3: her cousin. And we were all six years old, five

782
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 3: years old, and so everybody believed her for a couple

783
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 3: of years that her cousin was Nick Lache. And I'm

784
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 3: not going to tell you her name, but I do

785
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,439
Speaker 3: remember her first and last name. But turns out they're

786
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 3: not cousins.

787
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 2: Liar, Can we get the light detector? It went off?

788
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 2: Should have gone off in that first grade class?

789
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 3: Okay, so Paul has the lead one. Nothing right now, Darren?

790
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 3: Three or four? You do?

791
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try and forget that. While I was hosting

792
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 2: the Liner Show, Danny was in first grade. Go ahead, Deren, I'm.

793
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 4: Going to do three.

794
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 3: Cincinnati native Steven Spielberg directed Et, the story of an

795
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 3: alien who becomes stranded on Earth. What famous Candy does

796
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,720
Speaker 3: The main character, Elliott, used to lure Et to his house.

797
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 5: First of all, I know this, and I'm going to answer,

798
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 5: but I can't believe you did. Cincinnati native and didn't

799
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 5: talk about how Steven Spielberg went to Arcadia High School

800
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 5: in Phoenix, but Reese's pieces.

801
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 3: Correct, got ourselves the game, folks.

802
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go, rolling up the slaves, let's do this.

803
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 3: Here we go, pall question four for the win.

804
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 2: I choose four makes me feel like I'm in control. Here,

805
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 2: here we go.

806
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 3: I'll give it to you. This former ASU player was

807
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 3: a member of the Sun Devils nineteen ninety six Rose

808
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 3: Bowl team.

809
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 2: I covered that team.

810
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 3: Where he caught three passes from Jake Plumber in the

811
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 3: loss to Ohio State. He began his professional career with

812
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 3: the Bengals, then reunited with Plumber in two thousand and

813
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 3: one as a member of the Cardinals.

814
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 2: It's got to be Keith Poole, right.

815
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 5: No, no, no, Steve Bush.

816
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 3: Darryl ties it up and takes us to overtime.

817
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 4: Tell I got two?

818
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 3: Right, Oh you did?

819
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 4: Yeah?

820
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm so sorry. Not paper, I'm not writing down

821
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 3: the score. Sorry, Darren stolen, Darren one. Sorry to get

822
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 3: your ropes up. That's my bad. I did not do

823
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 3: a good job.

824
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 4: He played for the Saints, not the And yeah he

825
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 4: didn't play here though.

826
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 2: Pardon me for a minute.

827
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 3: Let me just go ahead and one more here on

828
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 3: my Google doc for Darren.

829
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 2: I mean still remember being on the field scored against

830
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 2: Ohio State and you thought they were going to win

831
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 2: the rose ball in the national Championship and the excuse me.

832
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:25,720
Speaker 4: Too soon? Too soon?

833
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 2: All right?

834
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, Steve Bush.

835
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 2: Was that correct? Please tell me he was wrong. I

836
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 2: thought maybe we'd go to the booth and be overruled. Okay,

837
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 2: all right, A right, well there you go.

838
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 4: See.

839
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 5: The thing is when you when you lose, when you

840
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 5: can't finish games, Paul, you get all sideways and you

841
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 5: don't know where to go after that.

842
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 2: That's true, you're right. I mean, once again, you know

843
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 2: my own hashtag finished drives, finished games, and I fail

844
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 2: in both departments. Let's let's be honest about that. Okay.

845
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 2: So going on to Cincinnati, which has been actually used

846
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 2: by the head coach several times since the end Atlanta game,

847
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 2: I've noticed that. Is he aware of that?

848
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 4: I I'm sorry. I think he's a little too smart

849
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 4: to not be aware of. All right, that's just my

850
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 4: humble killing.

851
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: All right.

852
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 5: So unless he's doing the whole Michael, is he Michael

853
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 5: Keaton and the other guys where he's doing all Michael

854
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 5: Keaton's doing all the TLC references and he claims he

855
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 5: doesn't know.

856
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 2: By the way, if you want a car movie, need

857
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 2: for Speed, Michael Keaton is one of the stars in

858
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 2: that one.

859
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 3: What is your favorite car movie?

860
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great question. It would have well, I

861
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 2: mean it's one of the great all time movies. Gone

862
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 2: in sixty seconds has to be has to be right

863
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 2: at the time, just because of you know, the variety

864
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 2: of cars.

865
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 4: Come on, what about what about the Steve McQueen and.

866
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 2: Its stars A sixty seven Shelby Mustangs?

867
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 3: Answer cars?

868
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 2: So all right, Cincinnati, no Herbie references, alms. Come on now, Cincinnati?

869
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 2: Are you telling me cold and or wet? Is that

870
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 2: what we're seeing here in the forecast week?

871
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 3: When I looked last So when I looked last week,

872
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 3: the high was thirty six and the low was twenty six.

873
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 3: But I look today and now it's supposed to be

874
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 3: maybe low fifties. However, I believe there's a heavy chance

875
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 3: for snow and or rain to start the game.

876
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 5: Okay, So almost sent this during the broadcast. Fifty eight degrees,

877
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 5: occasional rain showers, wins fifteen to twenty five miles an hour.

878
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 2: So I lived two years, three years in the Midwest,

879
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 2: and you know the famous saying is even don't like

880
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,439
Speaker 2: the weather, wait twelve hours, it'll change. So we'll see.

881
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 2: By the end of the week, we'll see what the

882
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 2: forecast is. Okay, As for going in against Cincinnati, if

883
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 2: you're making your list, you're checking it twice. Football wise,

884
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 2: what do you want to see? What do you want

885
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 2: to see from the Cardinals either side of the ball.

886
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 2: What do you want to see from the Cardinals? Maybe

887
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 2: against the Bengals, meaning you know things they excel at.

888
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 2: Obviously we already talked about the two rookie corners are

889
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: going against their two number one receivers, and then you

890
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 2: have Chase Brown out of the backfield.

891
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 5: I mean, the reality is is and I'm trying to

892
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 5: think off the top of my head, this is the

893
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 5: Have the Cardinals seen an elite quarterback this year?

894
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 4: Yet?

895
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,439
Speaker 3: You could argue Matthew Stafford stalin Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry,

896
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 3: my bad.

897
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 5: I do include Stafford in there. I forgot about Matthew Stafford.

898
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 5: But this is only like the second one, and he

899
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 5: had a heck of a game last week. Now, they

900
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 5: were in Miami and the weather was nice, and I

901
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 5: don't think the weather's going to be awesome, But It's

902
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,720
Speaker 5: not like Joe Burrow hasn't been awesome in bad weather

903
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 5: in Cincinnati before.

904
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: No doubt. I mean, look the week before they had

905
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 2: been shut out, and we know his comments about how

906
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 2: he wasn't exactly enjoying football and or some aspects of

907
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 2: his personal life. So there was a lot of speculation,

908
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 2: should they yank him, you know, for his own mental

909
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 2: for his own mentals, just you know, get him out

910
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,919
Speaker 2: and let him recover and focus on twenty twenty six.

911
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 2: A lot of trade speculation started swirling. I mean, Cincinnati

912
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 2: has to know if they get rid of Joe Burrow,

913
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 2: no matter what they get in return, They're not finding

914
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 2: the next Joe Burrow.

915
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 4: They're not getting rid of Joe Burrow.

916
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 5: They're not if now, if he does a Carson, they

917
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 5: might be in that position, but unless he's willing to

918
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 5: go to Defcon five and quit football, potentially, I don't

919
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 5: they're not.

920
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 4: Trading all right.

921
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 2: So look, what do you think if you're Jonathan Gannon,

922
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 2: if you're Manti asen Fort, what do you want to

923
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 2: see from this Cardinals team in the last couple of games.

924
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 2: I'll go first. I think the two guards continuing to

925
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 2: improve and get better before your eyes, John Gains, Isaiah Adams.

926
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 2: That would be a big plus, right if they continue

927
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 2: on this evolution, this arc of getting better, because obviously

928
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 2: that's a big question, you know, and that's the rub.

929
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 2: Getting back to the injuries. You thought this offseason perhaps

930
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 2: you would target the offensive line like you did the

931
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 2: defensive front a year ago. Well, now do you have

932
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 2: to go and put some of those assets into the

933
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 2: defensive front just based on the injury situation. So if

934
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 2: you can get a few more answers on the offensive

935
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 2: line than all right, it makes it easier to maybe

936
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 2: pull resources from there and to vote him elsewhere.

937
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 3: Big picture on offense, finish drives, you have to find

938
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 3: the end zone. You can't be settling for field goals

939
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 3: as often as Arizona was last week. And when you're

940
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 3: looking at an offense that is pretty banged up in

941
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 3: almost every room and in every room actually, I want

942
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 3: to see the playmakers make place and in a point

943
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 3: where it results in a win. We have seen great

944
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 3: grabs by McBride and Wilson and Harrison at some point

945
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 3: this season. You need to see that on a consistent basis.

946
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 3: You need to see that elevate the team and lead

947
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 3: to a win. That's what I want to see, is

948
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 3: I want to see in those big time moments, the

949
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 3: big players you rely on to show up and that

950
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 3: leads to a win.

951
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 5: Going off of that, like, I think they need to

952
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 5: find ways to get those playmakers. I understand Elijah Higgins

953
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 5: had a great game last week, and I like Elijah

954
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 5: Higgins as a pass catcher and a guy with the

955
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 5: ball after the catch, But you need to find out

956
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 5: they had eight targets for McBride.

957
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 4: There was one in the end zone. Like I don't.

958
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 5: I don't have a big problem with McBride's usage last week,

959
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 5: given how they were playing him and that he was

960
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 5: targeted eight times. You need to get the to me.

961
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 5: You need to target Michael Wilson more often than you did.

962
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 5: You need to find a way to get him the

963
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 5: ball more often than you did. And it'll be fascinating

964
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 5: to see what kind of run game they can generate

965
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 5: up there. If the weather is not awesome, if it

966
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 5: somehow is wet, or if it is really super windy

967
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 5: and it's gonna be tougher to throw the ball around, yep,

968
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 5: you may not have a choice. So that's gonna be

969
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 5: fascinating to see how that plays out.

970
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 2: So if you can get Trey McBride, if you can

971
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 2: get him eight catches, so he will go ahead and

972
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,720
Speaker 2: exceed d Hop team record, who currently holds one hundred

973
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 2: and fifteen catches is the team record most grabs in

974
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 2: a season. And then he would also eclipse Zach Ertz,

975
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 2: who currently sits at one hundred and sixteen catches, most

976
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 2: receptions by a tight end in a season in NFL history.

977
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 2: And then he would be the first time and ever

978
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 2: with two one hundred and ten plus catch seasons.

979
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 3: Ever, he's at one o six right now, one nine,

980
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 3: one o nine, he's already the first tight end to

981
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 3: have back to back one hundred catch seasons.

982
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 2: Yes, so in bast and shall we say how salty

983
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 2: he was after he didn't make the touchdown grab and

984
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 2: then that third down grab Jesse Bates broke up and

985
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 2: when he came to the bench, Yeah, you might want

986
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 2: to feed him early and often, Trey McBride, he might.

987
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: It was single key to victory.

988
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 4: It was funny.

989
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 5: I don't know if there's any kind of history or

990
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 5: of just because of the game, but like we we

991
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 5: caught and it's a still photo. So I don't know

992
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 5: the context obviously, but there's a great photo of him

993
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 5: kind of going up to Jesse Bates and they both

994
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 5: have big smiles on their face after the game, kind.

995
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 4: Of oh you got me today kind of vibe to it.

996
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 2: By the way, if you're looking for a good quote, uh,

997
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 2: you go to the big red rage Kelvin Beacham. When

998
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 2: we asked him, okay, Jacoby Brissett says he can hear

999
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 2: the opposing defense shouting out eighty five, eighty five all

1000
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 2: the time. You I'm guessing here as well, you're right

1001
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,479
Speaker 2: next to eighty five is the right tackle half the game?

1002
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 2: He said, Well, they're not just calling out eighty five

1003
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 2: because he's the guy to cover, which he is. They're

1004
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: calling it out because he's barking at them. He's starting

1005
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 2: a bunch of trash talking and he's triggered the entire defense.

1006
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 2: So now he really has their attention because they want

1007
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 2: a piece of him.

1008
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not surprised we see it. You know what,

1009
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 3: if you can walk the walk, then you can talk.

1010
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, I'm with you on that one.

1011
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 4: Yep.

1012
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 2: So what else? Daring anything else? You think? You know,

1013
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 2: if Jonathan Gannon, you know, because he has his little

1014
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 2: note card on the sideline he's writing, and he's writing

1015
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 2: things down.

1016
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 5: What else he decided to challenge a play. That was

1017
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 5: his first challenge flag. I'll see true, yea, And it

1018
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 5: was right. He's very judicious with the challenge flags.

1019
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 4: He's no Pete Carroll, Yes he is.

1020
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 2: And by the way, the Bengals are allowing the most

1021
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 2: rushing yards in the league. I mean, they've been a

1022
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 2: siev all season long. So to your point, if the

1023
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 2: weather isn't great and there's wind howling the game. Oh

1024
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 2: in Chicago. That win was crazy in Chicago.

1025
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 4: It's the Windy City pol Yeah.

1026
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 2: But it's also an enclosed stadium, so it is you know,

1027
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 2: when it's coming in like that. I mean the degree

1028
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 2: of difficulty. I talked to Chad Ryland a little bit

1029
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 2: about it, what Cairo Santos was able to do in

1030
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 2: that game as a kicker and actually navigate the wins

1031
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 2: and split the uprights like you get mad respect from

1032
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 2: other kickers in the league when you're able to do that.

1033
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 2: So anyway, did we mention Pro Bowl By the way,

1034
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 2: speaking to Trey McBride about it, So for Buddha. It's

1035
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 2: his eight time overall, seven times a safety, the alternate

1036
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 2: Josh Sweat, Trey McBride two years in a row. What

1037
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 2: feels like the next decade he'll be going And I

1038
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 2: said this on Red Sea Report, and I'll just go

1039
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 2: off in a little bit of a tangent slash rant

1040
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 2: for everyone who's saying, oh, Buddha Baker, maybe you know

1041
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 2: a bit of a down season. No, they're using him

1042
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 2: differently than they did a year ago. The man had

1043
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 2: over one hundred and sixty tackles last year out of

1044
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 2: necessity because they had to put him in the box

1045
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 2: a lot more because of the state of the D line,

1046
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 2: both injured, how injured they were, the talent level. You know,

1047
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 2: you invest a lot on the D line in part

1048
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 2: because you wanted to get Buddha Baker out of the box.

1049
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,760
Speaker 2: He's had to play deeper much more often. Minus Garrett

1050
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 2: Williams the beginning of the season, now minus Jalen Thompson.

1051
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 2: You heard Nick Rollis and Jonathan Anna both say there

1052
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 2: are plays that Buddha Baker gets to from clear across

1053
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 2: the field that nine out of ten safeties never even

1054
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 2: get in the neighborhood or vicinity, so sometimes they'll get

1055
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 2: marked down for a mistackle. He shouldn't even been there

1056
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 2: in the first place. So I just want to point

1057
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 2: out that he's being used a little differently this year

1058
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 2: than he was last year.

1059
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 5: I know a lot of people were asking about Paris

1060
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 5: Johnson because Paris Johnson was first or second in the

1061
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 5: fan vote of results almost the entire months. He finished

1062
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 5: second and then wasn't even an alternate. Again, just as

1063
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 5: a reminder, like the first of all the fan vote

1064
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 5: results that could put out there is literally just off

1065
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 5: the websites of NFL dot Com and then team websites.

1066
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 5: It does not include social votes from the fans, it

1067
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 5: doesn't include the one third that the players vote, and

1068
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 5: it doesn't include the one third coaches vote. So he

1069
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 5: wouldn't be the first person to rank high in a

1070
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 5: voting situation and not make the Pro Bowl. I know,

1071
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 5: I'm sure he's disappointed because he was hoping to be there. Uh.

1072
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 5: And then Josh Wet of course, I mean, I think

1073
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 5: those were the four guys that everybody was thinking if

1074
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 5: there were Pro bowlers from this team, those would probably

1075
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 5: be the four guys.

1076
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 2: By the way, there were three teams that did not

1077
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 2: send a player to the Pro Bowl, the Jets, the Saints,

1078
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 2: and the Vikings.

1079
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 4: The Vikings is crazy.

1080
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 2: And Jacksonville had one Pro bowler. You're talking about a

1081
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 2: team that's still in contention from the number one seed

1082
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 2: in the AFC. They had one Pro bowler and it

1083
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 2: was the long snapper. So hoole Liam.

1084
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 4: Cohens small Mark was gonna say, small market man.

1085
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 2: He can just he can continue to ride that the

1086
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 2: whole disrespect card, no doubt about it. By the way,

1087
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:04,919
Speaker 2: both the Niners and the Seahawks had six players sent

1088
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 2: to the Pro Bowl, and of the NFC three quarterbacks,

1089
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 2: two are in the NFC, Wes Matthew Stafford and Sam Darnold. Yet,

1090
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 2: if there's a big game on the line, I'm not

1091
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:15,760
Speaker 2: so sure. I don't take brock party.

1092
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 4: Honestly, he was so good Monday Night. Now the Colts

1093
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 4: can't stop a.

1094
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, true, and and and the Niners didn't stop Philip

1095
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 2: Rivers old Man Rivers very much either. At the beginning

1096
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 2: of the game. That was good stuff.

1097
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 3: But I liked when they took the shot to River's

1098
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 3: family in the suite and it was packed.

1099
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 2: It's packed. You're like, and those are all his kids.

1100
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 4: They didn't have immediate family owners.

1101
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 3: Didn't have any extra tickets for friends or extended families.

1102
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah, you gotta start, you know.

1103
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 3: A maximum capacity.

1104
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Philip rivers sort of awkward when he's

1105
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 2: going around the locker room. I know him, the new

1106
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,720
Speaker 2: guy who's got some extra tickets? I can borrow who

1107
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 2: some extra tickets around here? You know what, though, that's

1108
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 2: winning behavior, and that's our segue. How about it? Huh?

1109
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 2: It's winning behavior? Can you display winning behavior? You have

1110
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,760
Speaker 2: to consistently display winning behavior. That's winning behavior.

1111
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 3: You've got to define what winning behavior is and hold

1112
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 3: people to that standard.

1113
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 2: Yes, wow, look at the first item.

1114
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 3: Okay, put that ballpoint there?

1115
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 2: Interestinge, How that got in there?

1116
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 3: Can't say I don't know ball, Paul. Because in both

1117
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 3: of my fantasy football leagues, I have made it to

1118
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 3: the finals, and in one of those leagues, where I'm

1119
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 3: playing with a bunch of my family members, I was

1120
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 3: the last team to make the playoffs. So last week

1121
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 3: I took down my cousin's boyfriend who went eleven and

1122
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 3: two twelve and two all season, and he had the

1123
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,240
Speaker 3: bye week, and I defeated him. I slayed the beast,

1124
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,399
Speaker 3: and now I'm in the finals versus rust. I am

1125
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 3: in the finals against my older sister, and she has

1126
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 3: recommended that we don't talk this week.

1127
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 2: Wow, now it's getting extremely real. Okay, all right, how.

1128
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 3: Are you doing? You didn't make the playoffs and fantasy football?

1129
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 2: You know, I did not know. There was some controversy

1130
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 2: as to whether I actually did make it or not,

1131
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 2: and I did not, So you know, okay, that's all right.

1132
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 3: I mean controversy out.

1133
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 2: Because I've won the last two weeks and at first

1134
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 2: I thought I was in the playoffs. Turns out I've

1135
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 2: just been winning in the constellation. So I was the

1136
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 2: last person to find out I'm not in the playoffs,

1137
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:29,280
Speaker 2: which is pretty pathetic, thank you. Okay, So Danny schooling

1138
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 2: members of her own family, not sure if they're talking

1139
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 2: to her here during the holiday season. So there's that,

1140
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 2: and then this next item, Darren, you want to take

1141
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 2: the next one here?

1142
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:40,240
Speaker 4: Well, I just I'm wondering.

1143
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 5: You know, the Lions, the Chiefs, the Ravens all look

1144
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 5: like they're well, the Chiefs already out of the playoffs. Sure,

1145
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,879
Speaker 5: the Lions and the Ravens are barely hanging on. That's

1146
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 5: not very winning behavior for teams that everybody thought might

1147
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 5: get to the super Bowl.

1148
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 2: So think about it. The two number one seeds from

1149
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 2: last year out almost if the Lions are going to

1150
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 2: miss the playoffs, and it certainly looks like they are,

1151
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 2: Chiefs are already out. So once again, how do you

1152
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,760
Speaker 2: explain the popularity of the NFL. That's a big reason why,

1153
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 2: because from one season to the next you can make

1154
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,399
Speaker 2: a complete turnaround or the bottom can fall out. I mean,

1155
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 2: it's just the way it is.

1156
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true.

1157
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is.

1158
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 4: Expectations can change quickly.

1159
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. And by the way, if you've been watching the

1160
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 2: Ravens lately, and I don't know why I have, but

1161
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 2: I have Lamar Jackson as my fantasy team, which is

1162
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 2: one of the reasons I do not make the playoffs.

1163
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 2: The BALI Pickskins. There's some bad ball by the Ravens,

1164
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 2: especially their quarterback, their two time MVP quarterback. Some bad

1165
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 2: ball out there.

1166
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 3: I was going I was going up against Lamar Jackson

1167
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 3: and fantasy in one of my leagues this week, and

1168
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure he ended with four points. Four points. Now,

1169
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 3: I had z Flowers on my end, So that ended

1170
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 3: up panning out pretty nicely.

1171
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 2: Okay, it's never really a nice ending when it comes

1172
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 2: to Draymond Green.

1173
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 3: Just what is he doing on this rundown?

1174
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 5: So I just had to make note of this as

1175
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,720
Speaker 5: a Suns fan. I mean, I just think it should

1176
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 5: be noted that Draymond Green ended up getting in an

1177
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 5: argument with Steve Kerr, the head coach, and you would

1178
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 5: think he'd know better, but instead they get in an argument,

1179
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 5: and apparently Draymond said later he felt like it would

1180
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 5: be better if he left the situation so that it

1181
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 5: didn't get worse. So like, with eight minutes to go

1182
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 5: in the third quarter of this game, he walked to

1183
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 5: the locker room and just stayed there till the end

1184
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 5: of the third quarter. Then there was a couple of

1185
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 5: teammates that went back and got him and brought him

1186
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 5: back out to the bench, and so he was there.

1187
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 5: He did not come back in the game. And I

1188
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 5: guess one of the reporters asked Steve Carrer after that,

1189
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 5: did you consider putting him back in? And Steve curR

1190
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 5: is like, absolutely not. He left the game and went

1191
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 5: to the locker room. Why would I put him back in?

1192
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 5: But they both assure us that they've they've gotten through

1193
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,280
Speaker 5: rocky waters like this before and they will again.

1194
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 2: And did he pull on Antonio Brown and like start

1195
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 2: taking off his jersey and like, actually, I do not

1196
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 2: think so.

1197
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 5: No, I do not think we've reached Tonio Brown like

1198
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 5: levels for Draymond Green.

1199
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 2: But man, did he live stream the coaches talk on

1200
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 2: IG live afterwards from the locker room? Like Antonio Brown

1201
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 2: did Oh, well, get Bruce Arians in here for a

1202
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 2: few of those stories. I remember those. Those are gonna

1203
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 2: be highly entertaining, all right, So yeah, Draymond Green, Okay,

1204
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 2: that's good.

1205
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 4: Well that's not winning behavior, by.

1206
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 2: The way, No, it's certainly not. It's so like Jonathan

1207
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 2: Gannon in training camp. You know, if you're gonna fight,

1208
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 2: then you have the walk of shame all the way

1209
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 2: the length of the field and down the ramp to

1210
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 2: the locker room. Thou shalt leave practice immediately.

1211
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 5: So speaking of that, what what do we think is

1212
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 5: is makes more sense for a punishment for fighting in

1213
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 5: practice the Bruce Arians you gotta go run laps?

1214
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 4: Or is it the Jonathan Gannon you're banished?

1215
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a that's a good. Well one year or

1216
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 2: you're just wolf and you're like, let him go. One

1217
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 2: year was the first, his first training camp, there was

1218
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 2: a fight, Darren. Didn't he make the entire team run gassers?

1219
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 4: You're talking about Bruce, Bruce arians.

1220
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 2: Yea, the entire team? Now, oh you not only do

1221
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 2: you feel this, that's old school, high school, old school,

1222
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 2: but there is nothing worse than you're responsible for ninety

1223
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 2: guys having to run gassers.

1224
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 5: He could have taken it up a level and said,

1225
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 5: everybody runs, but the two guys who fought you have

1226
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 5: to sit here and watch your teammates run. That's that

1227
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 5: if you really want to get old school and like, yeah,

1228
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 5: the guys who caused it, you don't have to get punished.

1229
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 4: Everybody else does.

1230
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 2: That was all I think in a one week span

1231
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 2: where he left no doubt who was in charge. A

1232
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 2: practice number two or three, he yelled at Larry fitzgeraldes

1233
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 2: for making a mental mistake, and everyone realized, if you're

1234
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 2: holding Larry Legend accountable.

1235
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 4: Yes, did not give a flying fig who you were.

1236
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 2: And then not long after that, he made the entire

1237
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 2: team run for a fight. So, yes, there are ways

1238
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 2: to come in heavy if you will. As a head coach.

1239
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 4: Was it in a meeting where he like chastised Wolf

1240
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 4: about fighting.

1241
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 2: Well, no, he brought Wolf in to deliver a little

1242
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 2: pep talk to the rookies, and Wolf's whole the gist

1243
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 2: of his whole talk was pick the toughest guy and

1244
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 2: get him down on the ground and let him have it.

1245
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 2: And then Ba literally had to take the mic out

1246
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 2: of Wolfsands say no, we're not gonna have any of that.

1247
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 3: Wolf.

1248
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 2: That's great, thank you, You're done. And he was never

1249
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 2: invited back any of the subsequent seasons because it was

1250
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 2: not the Bruce arians way. I'll just leave you with

1251
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 2: this unless you have anything else to say.

1252
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 4: Oh no, well you can go ahead and drop the mic. Pop.

1253
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say, the super Bowl champion this year

1254
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 2: is coming out of the NFC West.

1255
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 4: Period clip that please.

1256
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 2: The super Bowl champion this year, I think the NFC West,

1257
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 2: those three teams are so far head and shoulders and

1258
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 2: by the time they get done with this season, it's

1259
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 2: sort of like the winner of the SEC back in

1260
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 2: the day was going to be your inevitable national champ

1261
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 2: or back in college basketball, right when either Duke or

1262
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 2: North Carolina or whoever won the ACC and that team

1263
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 2: was going to go on and win it all. I

1264
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 2: think the NFC West is that good, those three teams

1265
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 2: that the super Bowl champion when you look at them

1266
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 2: and what the Niners just put on display. Although I

1267
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 2: don't trust their defense and now that uh.

1268
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's as much as I like seeing Philip Rivers

1269
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 5: do what he did, man, there's when he when you

1270
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 5: can't do you have no chance to get at that guy.

1271
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 5: I don't know how long they're gonna last the day.

1272
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well, I got to go and fish

1273
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 2: the rain gear out of the desk if nothing else.

1274
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 4: Wait, first, you got to go shopping, Paul.

1275
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 3: You got to get your powerball ticket.

1276
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 2: That's true, that's right. Okay, priorities are right, powerball ticket,

1277
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 2: holiday shopping, rain gear in that order, in that order.

1278
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 4: That's probably you have a little bit of time before

1279
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 4: the rain gear.

1280
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 2: You guys didn't You guys didn't really believe me. I

1281
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:41,120
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1282
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