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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steelers Nation, It's the Drive on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network. Wesh Aler. Matt Williamson fired up on a Friday.

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Speaker 3: Matt, pretty wound up, man. I mean, you know, I

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Speaker 3: bring four free agency gets me all fired up to that.

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Speaker 2: Bring the energy is out there. You do a pretty

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Speaker 2: good job of it as well. I think you and

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Speaker 2: I are both similar in that department. We don't want

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Speaker 2: to sit here in kind of monotone talk about football

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Speaker 2: for two hours. But it's a Friday. A Friday is

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Speaker 2: always put a little pep in your stack, right It's

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Speaker 2: a man, it's like seventy degrees outside there right now,

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Speaker 2: it's finally after a long winter. And yes, we were

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Speaker 2: on the precipice of perhaps the busiest week in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Free ag well, I think at eight.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's madness. This weekend is gonna be nuts,

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Speaker 3: and so much will change one between now when we

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Speaker 3: get back together.

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Speaker 2: And so much has changed just in the last twenty

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Speaker 2: two hours since you and I were last last on

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Speaker 2: these airwaves.

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Speaker 3: So this is our first free agency period and I'm

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Speaker 3: not tooting my own horn, but to me, this is

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Speaker 3: what I bring to the table a lot in terms

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Speaker 3: of Okay, so this move happens, But what's that. It's

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Speaker 3: like it's like playing chess, you know, Like that's why

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Speaker 3: I love it so much. It's why I love team

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Speaker 3: building so much. It's like, well, the defensive tackle group

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Speaker 3: is so bad in the draft, they had to get

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Speaker 3: their guy. Now, you know, like you really learn to think,

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Speaker 3: is those around you think? And I've learned, you know,

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Speaker 3: thirty two teams, and I think it's so much fun.

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Speaker 3: You know, why would they make that move? It makes

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Speaker 3: no sense? You know, why would they give that much

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Speaker 3: for Dj Moore? Well, you know, free agent of free

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Speaker 3: agent wide receiver is gonna be really expensive.

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Speaker 2: You know, I've said this to you before, I'll say

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Speaker 2: it again. I'm sure it won't be the last time.

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Speaker 2: I enjoyed doing this with you every day that we

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Speaker 2: come in here and turn these microphones on, but especially

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Speaker 2: around combine time, free agency, combine draft time, because I

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Speaker 2: think we all know about these players and the prospects,

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Speaker 2: and you know, I consume a ton of college football,

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Speaker 2: but you really, I mean, all these guys across the league,

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Speaker 2: all these guys, these prospects now coming out. I think

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Speaker 2: you're about as dialed in. It's very difficult. We actually

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Speaker 2: laughed about this on our drive home from Indianapolis with

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Speaker 2: our buddy Mike Persuda. It's hard to know all the

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Speaker 2: ins and outs of all thirty two teams.

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Speaker 3: In the end, you won't as well as you know

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Speaker 3: your team. No one does but you.

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Speaker 2: But you do a pretty good job and knowing those

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Speaker 2: other thirty one teams about as well as you can

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Speaker 2: for still being a Steelers.

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Speaker 3: Guy, right for not being in their facility or talking

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Speaker 3: to the beat reporters or you know, watching them since

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Speaker 3: I was this big, you know. But yeah, I mean

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Speaker 3: that's what I do. Said, I don't know anything else

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Speaker 3: on the planet that I'm good at, but that's it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know a couple other things, But you're

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Speaker 2: what's that Billy Carrington country song? Pretty good rinking beer?

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Speaker 2: I think that goes on Matt Williamson's list, But I digress, Matt.

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Speaker 2: Busy week ahead, busy busy days continue here as teams

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Speaker 2: are they're getting their books in order, they're doing their

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Speaker 2: housekeeping to get ready for free agency, to get ready

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Speaker 2: for reminder, it's not just free agency next week. It's

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Speaker 2: the fiscal year that turns over in the NFL. So

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Speaker 2: you got to have your ducks in order. You got

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Speaker 3: It's trades and all that stuff become official and all

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Speaker 3: that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of similar to tax season, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 2: right right, you got to balance your books, which my

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Speaker 2: wife and I just finally finished our taxes last night.

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Speaker 2: Praise ye the Lord to get that out of the way.

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Speaker 2: And God speed all the accountants out there in Steeler

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Speaker 2: Nation that are that are going to be awfully busy

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Speaker 2: over the next month or two, Matt, these NFL teams

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Speaker 2: continue to stay awfully busy. We've got our news of

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Speaker 2: significant news around some quarterbacks in the NFL. Okay, we'll

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Speaker 2: start in division with a organization that employed you for

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Speaker 2: about three hundred and sixty five days once upon a time,

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Speaker 2: I think it was exactly that. Yeah, the Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 2: went to the Bank of the Shawn Watson restructuring that

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Speaker 2: big contract, freeing up close to thirty six million dollars

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Speaker 2: play in twenty twenty five. The Shawn Watson obviously was

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Speaker 2: set to have an eighty point seven million dollar cap

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Speaker 2: hit this season. Yeah, let me repeat that for dramatic effects.

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Speaker 3: So insane.

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Speaker 2: An eighty point seven million dollar cap hit in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty six, not surprisingly the largest in the NFL fully guaranteed,

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Speaker 2: the largest ever, probably the largest ever fully guaranteed forty

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Speaker 2: six million bucks. This season, they restructured, you know, some

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Speaker 2: of some of that to free up some cap space,

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Speaker 2: and now apparently Matt he's gonna be in the mix

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Speaker 2: to compete for that job for Cleveland starting in training. Well,

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Speaker 2: I guess starting a camp here in May.

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Speaker 3: I guess. I mean, so, I'm not saying I even well,

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Speaker 3: the trades are worst trade in NFL history, and it's

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Speaker 3: not even close. I mean, he would have to come

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Speaker 3: to even you know, to say like, okay, it's even

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Speaker 3: a conversation, not to mention all the picks they gave

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Speaker 3: up crazy, but the money stuff is nuts. And it's

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Speaker 3: to the point where, at this stage of the game.

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Speaker 3: I don't even blame them for the short term deals.

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Speaker 3: It's like, we gotta we gotta sign our draft picks,

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Speaker 3: we gotta sign an offensive lineman or two. You know, like,

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Speaker 3: from where we're at, we have no other choice.

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Speaker 2: You gotta rob Peter to pay Paul a little bit.

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Speaker 3: If you're the brand, right, I'm sure you could restructure

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Speaker 3: Garrett to some degree, but they just signed him a

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Speaker 3: year ago. That's not great business either. So if he's

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Speaker 3: an eight eighty million dollar cap at this year, had

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Speaker 3: year after, it's probably it's only gonna get worse. And

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Speaker 3: they're just hoping the cap keeps going up. And they're

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Speaker 3: most and then their owner is cool with that. So

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Speaker 3: that's a slight advantage. But still you're not getting out

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Speaker 3: from under the problem at all. This is gonna hinder

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Speaker 3: them forever. I mean, he has to be like the

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Speaker 3: be like the best quarterback in the league to make

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Speaker 3: it work. Yes, I mean, to make it even an

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Speaker 3: Like if he was playing like the tenth best quarterback

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Speaker 3: If he played every game since the day they made

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Speaker 3: the deal, it still wouldn't. Not they gave up too much.

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Speaker 2: It is. It is crazy, and it's certainly been kind

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Speaker 2: of an albatross around their neck, the you know, the

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Speaker 2: the ball and chain that has has drugged them to

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Speaker 2: the bottom of the ocean floor. But man, I would

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Speaker 2: be shocked, it would be. It would just be so

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Speaker 2: bizarre if he ended up being back in the fold

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Speaker 2: with them after everything that's transpired over the last couple

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Speaker 3: I do think he's gonna be back on the practice

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Speaker 2: The guy and yeah, I don't. It doesn't certainly doesn't.

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Speaker 3: See it was really good.

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Speaker 2: There's certainly there was a time where he was in

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Speaker 2: at least maybe in that best quarterback, was at least

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Speaker 2: maybe in that tier two, maybe not a bona fide

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Speaker 3: But he doesn't still in it.

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Speaker 2: He hasn't been that guy for four or five years.

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Speaker 3: It's been a long time. Oh, by the way, there's

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Speaker 3: off the field stuff and all this is so guaranteed.

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Speaker 3: What's the motivation for him to take things the extra

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Speaker 3: I have no idea what his football character is. His

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Speaker 3: football character has never been questioned. But what's the motivation?

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's still human. I mean, the checks are

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I that's a that's a bizarre one because he's

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Speaker 2: for another handful of years.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, maybe he's okay this year. I mean I

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Speaker 3: can get around that. I mean, maybe he's the opening

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Speaker 3: like one of the worst quarterbacks in the league.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that lot a lot to still be determined there,

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Speaker 2: but certainly a story when his contract's getting restructured and

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Speaker 2: it sounds like he's at least going to have an

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Speaker 2: opportunity to get on the field here in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: Real quick, Todd Monkins, you know sees something there?

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Speaker 3: and you know all those things. Talking about the cap

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Speaker 3: but they still refuse to do what Miami's doing with

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Speaker 3: you know, like.

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Speaker 2: Just eat it for a year. Yeah, it's going just eat.

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Speaker 3: Your veggies and have a terrible year and you know,

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Speaker 3: not have anything to show for it. But they keep

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Speaker 3: fighting it and they I mean I said that last year,

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Speaker 3: like they did it. Miles Garrett really did them a

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Speaker 3: favor saying trade me because it's like, okay, we can

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Speaker 3: dump that thirty and at least get two first round picks. Yes,

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Speaker 3: And that was before he even set the sack record

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Speaker 3: and had his best year ever. It's you know, you

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Speaker 3: had some outs and you just keep saying, well, maybe

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Speaker 3: we'll compete.

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Speaker 2: This year, Like, no, you won't.

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Speaker 3: You won't know, you won't.

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Speaker 2: Staying in the quarterback conversation, Matt A team that I

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Speaker 2: don't think is making any mistake about where they are

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Speaker 2: and their rebuilding process is of course the Las Vegas Raiders.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're embracing it.

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Speaker 2: They're embracing yeah.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: They are set to release our Lord and Savior Eugene

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Speaker 2: Cyril Smith the Third, also known as Geno Smith, barring

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Speaker 2: a trade before the start of the new league year

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Speaker 2: on Wednesday. According to Adam Schefter, by releasing Geno, the

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Speaker 2: Raiders open up eight million in cap space. He signed

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Speaker 2: a two year, seventy five million dollar extension last.

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Speaker 3: Year, but he don't even need the space.

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Speaker 2: All the all the fully fully guaranteed money was last

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Speaker 2: year in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you roll with Mendoza and O'Connell or somebody

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Speaker 3: like that. Fine, you don't need the cap space, especially

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Speaker 3: after they trade Max Rosby, They're not gonna need the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson, Uh, came in here and was he does

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson, It's the Drive, Steelers Nation Radio on the

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Speaker 2: Friday edition of the Drive. We have got so much

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I've ever told you about this before,

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Speaker 2: people would say you got plenty of time, and in

438
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,840
Speaker 2: the confines of like the NFL structure, He's like, you don't.

439
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,280
Speaker 3: You don't. You really don't like, Oh, you.

440
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 2: Need a wide receiver too. You got plenty of time

441
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 2: to figure it out. No, you don't know at all.

442
00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,200
Speaker 2: You better do it right now because that train never.

443
00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,480
Speaker 3: Still one of my least favorite two is well, we'll

444
00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,880
Speaker 3: be a lot healthier next year. Oh sure you will.

445
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:55,399
Speaker 3: All right, nobody gets.

446
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:56,920
Speaker 2: Hurting this, You're right, No one will get hurt. They'll

447
00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,679
Speaker 2: all just walk around wrap just fine.

448
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 3: Matt.

449
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 2: You came in here today, and we always you know,

450
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,719
Speaker 2: we put together our set list that TV tweets out,

451
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,680
Speaker 2: you know, kind of our rough outline of the show.

452
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, Fan on chatting, we.

453
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,639
Speaker 2: Mostly stick to and we throw some free form jazz

454
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 2: in there, and sometimes Jerry Garcia pops up, but we

455
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,720
Speaker 2: go on a twelve minute solo, you know. But for

456
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 2: the most part, we have a rough outline of what

457
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,159
Speaker 2: we want to talk about for the day. And you

458
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 2: wanted to talk about running back market and the Steelers

459
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 2: and how you're starting to think that this is a

460
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,200
Speaker 2: real or should be a real priority kind of early

461
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:34,879
Speaker 2: early days next week.

462
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, So we've had some game well conversations, but I

463
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:42,920
Speaker 3: don't think we've talked enough about other free agent running backs.

464
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 3: And here's why I wanted to go down this road is.

465
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 3: First off, unlike almost every draft class, I don't think

466
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 3: you can count on this draft to get a running

467
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,159
Speaker 3: back that you can start or play day one. I

468
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 3: mean starts a big word because Warren's not going anywhere.

469
00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 3: I love warn you're not gonna get love. He loves

470
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 3: not gonna be a stealer, right, you know. And if

471
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 3: he fell to fourteen, would you trade up for him? Maybe?

472
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 3: But you can't ignore free agency. People forget about these timelines.

473
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 3: I mean, you can't just let every free agent running

474
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,680
Speaker 3: back sign somewhere else with the intention you're going to

475
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:15,360
Speaker 3: trade up for love.

476
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:15,919
Speaker 2: Correct.

477
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 3: Now, there are other good backs in the draft, but

478
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 3: I think counting on one to be your one A

479
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 3: is asking a lot, and not just because I have

480
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 3: a bad taste in my mouth from seeing it last year.

481
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 3: Because most of those guys hit. It's just a really

482
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 3: weak crop and none of them are like Well, you

483
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 3: pick him in the third round and plug him in

484
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 3: like they thought they were getting with Johnson. Thus you

485
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 3: have to have more than Warren and Johnson. I mean

486
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 3: that's all you got at the moment.

487
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,160
Speaker 2: And I think everyone agrees with that.

488
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 3: Of course, now game Weell's fine, and this is none

489
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 3: of this is a knock on gain Well if you

490
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 3: were too. He's a very useful player. That out kicked

491
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 3: his coverage, and I think that wasn't a fluke, especially

492
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 3: if you have Rogers. I would love his receiving chops too.

493
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 3: I mean Rogers rows to backs, balls come not quick.

494
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 3: Obviously he fit in well, so he would do the

495
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:11,199
Speaker 3: he amongst others. Well, I guess how I should have

496
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 3: opened this is I think they have to sign a

497
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 3: free agent running back. Gain Well was a free agent

498
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,360
Speaker 3: running back doesn't have to be him, but I think

499
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 3: they have to sign a free agent running back.

500
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 2: I'm starting to lean that way.

501
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, And as much as I love Warren, there still

502
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 3: are questions which I thought the last staff overblew a

503
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 3: little bit of how much do you want to hand him?

504
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,959
Speaker 3: You know? But they're there every day with him, and

505
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 3: he's never proven to be level, you know, I mean,

506
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 3: and few are, so you're gonna need two or three

507
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 3: no matter what. Over the course of the year, and

508
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 3: even last year, they were remarkably lucky that they didn't

509
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 3: have to throw Johnson to the Wolves because their top

510
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 3: two guys really didn't miss much time, which never happens

511
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 3: a running back.

512
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 2: And when Warren did miss a little bit of time,

513
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 2: Kenneth Gainwell was at his sparkling best and you just

514
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:00,439
Speaker 2: left that guy on field.

515
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 3: Like I remember being in Dublin doing the pregame show

516
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 3: live usually I do it to call in or whatever,

517
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 3: and they're like, Warren's not going today. I'm like, well,

518
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 3: I guess you gotta throw Johnson to the Minx. Not

519
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 3: at all what happened. Game will just take it all.

520
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 2: One of the best games of the season.

521
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 3: It was awesome. Yeah, and I'm like, wow, maybe that's

522
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 3: a one off, but at least he has that in.

523
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 2: His bag and he did it again in Detrop.

524
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 3: Did it later. Yeah. So I think the running back room,

525
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 3: probably in the draft is a six round pick no

526
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 3: matter what we do here, because you have a lot

527
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 3: of picks and I don't trust Johnson and I don't

528
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 3: know that everybody can stay healthy.

529
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 2: And you at least want Johnson, I think, to to

530
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 2: feel the heat a little bit. I'm sure he already does.

531
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but you.

532
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 3: Want to can't guarantee him around.

533
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 2: I want to have somebody who's going to push him

534
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 2: out out out in the troup.

535
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 3: That's a great point because the third running back is

536
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 3: going to make the team, and I don't know that

537
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 3: he deserves just to be chalked in as the third

538
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 3: running back, and today he's the second. So I would

539
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 3: love to go to camp with him fighting a six

540
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 3: round pick to be the third, to be the third. Yeah, completely,

541
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:00,479
Speaker 3: matter of what they do.

542
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 2: Completely. Yeah, that to me feels like it has to happen.

543
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 3: Yes, So there are some names, and running backs aren't

544
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 3: that expensive on the open market, and Steelers do have

545
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 3: a lot of money but I think they could maybe

546
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 3: even go a little bigger than you initially thought. I mean,

547
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 3: I guess I mean that figuratively and literally, in that

548
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 3: you get a bigger back, or you could get a

549
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,719
Speaker 3: guy that's a little more expensive and a little bit

550
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 3: more of a brand name than just Joe Blow.

551
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 2: You know, you want to run through some of those Yeah, yeah, yeah,

552
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,120
Speaker 2: all right, Well let's let's go from maybe biggest.

553
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go biggest a little and after a while

554
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 3: we're get the point like these guys aren't gonna cut it.

555
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna sort it here by spot tracks

556
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 2: market value for the updo Okay, they have a.

557
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 3: Projector's curious what the numbers are for them?

558
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 2: And I don't think this will surprise anybody, but number

559
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 2: one is Kenneth Walker. They have him a little over

560
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 2: nine million dollars a year, which isn't much and in

561
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 2: the grand scheme of a salary.

562
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 3: I thought you're gonna say twelve.

563
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 2: And I feel like their market value you is a

564
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 2: little lower.

565
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 3: Some of these sites undershoot it undershooting formulas, and then

566
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 3: there's a they just.

567
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 2: Really don't they I don't think they fully kind of

568
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 2: grasped how much the cap is really shot up at?

569
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 2: How that that just everybody now is making ten percent.

570
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 3: Extrah, especially the first wave guys. You'll get bargains two

571
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 3: weeks from that.

572
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 2: Let's say it's an extra two or three million.

573
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 3: There it's two year twenty five million.

574
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 2: Is that something you'd be interested for the Steelers. I

575
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 2: hadn't even thought about that.

576
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,199
Speaker 3: I had it until this morning because I've gotten a

577
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 3: couple tweets. I guess people were buzzing on Twitter linking

578
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 3: the Steelers and Walker, and I never even considered that path.

579
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 3: Just like boy, they need so many other things. Don't

580
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 3: invest in running back now, but.

581
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 2: You match him with your not paying quarterback big money.

582
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 3: You're not gonna pay quarterback big money no matter what.

583
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 3: Two years twenty five million. And I urge everyone, you

584
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 3: have to look this through the lens of do you

585
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 3: think Sellers would be happy you had this in place

586
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 3: when he shows up here next year or whoever that

587
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 3: is quarterback X? Yeah, heck yeah, heck yeah. I mean,

588
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 3: how many years on a row we've been talking about boy,

589
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 3: their yards for carry needs to go up and explosives

590
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 3: and if he's your one and Warren goes back to

591
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 3: all the third down work because Walker doesn't catch pass

592
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 3: as well war block.

593
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 2: Those two would have a very nice peanut butter and

594
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: jelly yeah skill set mesh shoe right shoe.

595
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 3: And I also don't Walker has an injury history too,

596
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 3: and Seattle didn't run him into the ground until they

597
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 3: absolutely needed to. They saved him smartly even when Sharon

598
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 3: Day was healthy, and then when he got hurt he

599
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 3: became super MVP. I don't need to get into a

600
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 3: massive bidding war and get the fifteen million but two

601
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 3: year twenty five to have an elite backfield. Basically, I'm

602
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 3: real interested. All of a sudden, It's just been in

603
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 3: my head a lot today. I'm like, that's hard to

604
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 3: play again.

605
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 2: You came in here cooking about that one. Yeah, I

606
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 2: was like, you know what.

607
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 3: I he was fine, But Walker is a different beast man.

608
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 2: And all the realm of possibilities of free agency and

609
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 2: specifically running back. Because we've had a little bit of

610
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 2: these conversations over the last couple of weeks, Kenneth Walker

611
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 2: was never even a name.

612
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 3: I think we brought him up for the Steelers. No,

613
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 3: I'm once I we.

614
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 2: Brought him up for teams like the Texans.

615
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but why not the steeper Chiefs, right,

616
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 3: the Steelers.

617
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 2: You've got the money, You've got the money compared to

618
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 2: those to those teams.

619
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 3: Hand them the ball, man.

620
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 2: I don't hate it. If if the money is right,

621
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 2: if there's not someone who comes in and makes them

622
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 2: an offer he can't refuse, I don't hate It's twenty

623
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 2: five years old, man, He's not twenty eight. I mean,

624
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 2: I know, running back, their shelf life is shorter and

625
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 2: they fall out. But he's twenty five.

626
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 3: Usually twenty sevens when it starts to show their age.

627
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 3: Twenty seven to twenty eight. Okay, If he wants a

628
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 3: three year deal and you can get out of the

629
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 3: last year on, it's fine.

630
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 2: Fine. Load up the guaranteed money in the first two year.

631
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah right.

632
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 2: Travis etn twenty seven years old. About seven million dollars

633
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 2: a year the market estimate.

634
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 3: I also think he'll get more than that.

635
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but.

636
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 3: No, because frankly, I look, Warren's an interesting back to

637
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 3: me in terms of you know, how you like people

638
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 3: talk about like building a basketball team at wide receiver

639
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 3: POSITIONLESSTBA or like guy, yeah, you know, like I need

640
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 3: my center, all forward, point guard. Yeah, in terms of

641
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 3: like the pass catchers, I think Warren in like the

642
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 3: running back equivalent is like right in the middle. You know,

643
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 3: Like in terms of like size, speed, receiving combination, I

644
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 3: think you're either kind of like a line in the sand.

645
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 3: This is not good or bad. It's it's his style

646
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 3: of you're either smaller than him or bigger than him.

647
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 3: And if you're bigger than him, you're a big back.

648
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 3: If you're smaller than him, you're a small back, a

649
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 3: small forward like the three exactly.

650
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 2: Or like if you're gonna be the four or five,

651
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 2: you better be a.

652
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 3: Little bit bigger, noticeably bigger.

653
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 2: If you're gonna if you can handle the ball and

654
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: you're a little bit smaller, fine, you can be our

655
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 2: point guard or our shooting guard.

656
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 3: Exactly which game Bill was, yes, you know, yes, exact Well.

657
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 2: Was like the one or two exactly, and Warren was

658
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:03,959
Speaker 2: like the three. I pick up what you're putting down now.

659
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 3: For Johnson example was drafted, you know, based on size

660
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 3: to some degree. So if I'm gonna go lighter than Warren,

661
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 3: I think I just went gain Well and atn fits

662
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 3: the lighter than Warren conversation to me, I'd rather pay

663
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 3: less on Gainwell, who I know. And that's not a

664
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 3: knock on atn He's he's gonna make more than seven million.

665
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 3: He's a good player, he's an underrated player. Like if

666
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 3: he's not Chiefs, put him on my fantasy team or

667
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Short, I like him, but

668
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna lean towards Bangers Hammer And I know Walker

669
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 3: is not built like Bettist, but he runs hard.

670
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 2: That There's not many guys left in the NFL that

671
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 2: are built like Bettest. No, no, but you're right. But

672
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 2: there is a cert there's a there's a line there,

673
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 2: there's a you know, a roller coaster. You must be

674
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 2: this tall, yeah, to kind of fit into that prototype.

675
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 3: I'm looking for a bigger guy.

676
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 2: I agree with that Banger.

677
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 3: I mean they've had one my whole life, going back

678
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 3: to Franco, you know. I mean it's kind of a

679
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 3: Steeler thing too.

680
00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 2: Rico Dowbell.

681
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, he's not as bangourish as I like, but

682
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 3: he and McCarthy did really good things in Dallas together.

683
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 3: He's got a couple of thousand yard seasons in a row.

684
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 3: You'd get him at a one year five million, six million.

685
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 3: I mean it's not a bad move. It's a little underwhelming,

686
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 3: but I think if he was here, people would have

687
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 3: a new appreciation for him. And another name that I'm

688
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 3: sure is gonna come up here in a minute is

689
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 3: Tyler Algiers.

690
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 2: He's next on the list if you want to go there.

691
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 3: I like Algier better. I think he's vastly underrated.

692
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 2: Five that we watch it million dollars.

693
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 3: His estimates more than that too. I'll make eight, you know,

694
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 3: but that's fine. I mean two year, fifteen million, something

695
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 3: like that. He'd probably be a little more logical than Walker,

696
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 3: but people would people would like him a lot more

697
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 3: than they think. He would start for twelve teams in

698
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 3: the league last year. He's just behind the best back

699
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 3: in the league, and he does all the dirty work.

700
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 3: He's good in protection and as a receiver. Not superstar receiver,

701
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 3: but big physical, sees the field really really well. You'd

702
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 3: have a really good backfield with Warren and aug here.

703
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 2: I I completely agree.

704
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 3: In a minimal investment, he.

705
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 2: Might be that he might be the sweet spot. If

706
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 2: he might be the sweet spot, yeah, yeah, that's the number.

707
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 3: I mean, you're swinging for the fences at Walker.

708
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 2: I imagine Isaiah Pacheco doesn't fit the bill.

709
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 3: Not for me. I don't like his style of running

710
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 3: at all. He just runs really fast into things. I

711
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 3: think he's gonna lot. He's got a little too Johnny Knoxville.

712
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 4: And him to me, I said, Michael Carter, no receiving back,

713
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 4: Brian Robinson not good.

714
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 3: Enough, but he would fit the mold. He's just on

715
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 3: mono tone. And if you did that, then you might

716
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 3: have to use a fourth round pick on a back,

717
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 3: not a sixth you know.

718
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 2: Rashaan White, pure receiver.

719
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, finesse guy, not a bad player.

720
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 2: And then Kenneth Gainwell is next on their of of

721
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 2: estimated value Nausei Harris.

722
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 3: No, I think that ship sailed, and I think I

723
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 3: thought he was a little overrated here and last year

724
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 3: didn't help.

725
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 2: Austin Ecklar No, he may retire. Yeah, he's on the

726
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,959
Speaker 2: other side of thirty. Jerremy McNichols is on the other

727
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 2: side of thirty.

728
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 3: I have one more name than JK.

729
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 2: Dobbins.

730
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 3: He gets every year.

731
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, but every time his

732
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 2: name you have to say it in the Gus Johnson

733
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 2: broadcaster voice. Jay K.

734
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 3: Dobbs.

735
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 2: I think he does. He was looking at it. TV's

736
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 2: like Gus Johnson, longtime football badcast.

737
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 3: He kind of recognized your impersonation.

738
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 2: Fox NFL forever. Now he's Fox is lead college football guy.

739
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: I'm so with that. He ends up doing a lot

740
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 2: of Ohio State games because they are typically the lead

741
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 2: Big Ten game on folks.

742
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 3: So, hey, Dobbins, I have a blind spot for kickers

743
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 3: and punters. Dale used to make fun of me, but

744
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 3: I also have a blind spot for announcers, Like I

745
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 3: really don't even care who announce game?

746
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 2: Can I tell you one thing of the So I

747
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 2: just completed my fourth year of traveling with the team, right, yeah,

748
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 2: So this was my eighth season in the books, but

749
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 2: fourth on the road. So being on the road, I

750
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 2: hear a lot less of the broadcasters now, particularly on Sundays,

751
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 2: than I used to.

752
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah yeah.

753
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 2: So everyone's like, man, Tom Brady kind of stinks on

754
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 2: the broadcast, doesn't almost like I'm like, I don't know,

755
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 2: because I get to hear it maybe once a year,

756
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 2: because in the past I'd be here in the studios

757
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 2: and as soon as the Steelers game was over, we'd

758
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: have the next game.

759
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 3: On you have like the Monday night games, you know

760
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 3: game you actually probably wont.

761
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 2: Direct, Whereas now when the four thirty games are on,

762
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 2: we're packing up the plane and the yeah yeah, yeah,

763
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 2: and I'm going back.

764
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 3: If you have like red Zone on your phone, it's

765
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 3: not the same.

766
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 2: And I'm going back and I'm watching the condensed game

767
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 2: thirty forty minute packages. But that doesn't have It's not

768
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 2: not the same. So my my announcement, my announcer, chops

769
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 2: have waned a little bit in the last few years.

770
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 3: You got saturated with Rob King two.

771
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 2: At least at least he's easy on the years. Don't

772
00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 2: tell him I said that though.

773
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 3: But Dobbins is the last one I would talk about.

774
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 2: Okay.

775
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 3: I think he's an exceptional football player, you know, like

776
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,959
Speaker 3: he was a five star recruit Ohio State even last year,

777
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 3: huge huge asterisks. When he's on the field, he's kind

778
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 3: of awesome. But you're never gonna get eighteen games out

779
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 3: of him. Plus it just never happens. I mean, his

780
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 3: track record is so brutal. Every year he's out for

781
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 3: the year at some point. I'm sure that's why he's

782
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 3: super cheap on spot track. I mean, the last two stops.

783
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 3: They've got him for nothing. If you don't land a

784
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 3: big name, throw him a one year deal and just

785
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 3: use him until he gets hurt. But this don't count

786
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 3: on him being there in the playoffs or at the end.

787
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 2: You know, rookie season. He played in fifteen games for

788
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens, then eight, then one, then thirteen with

789
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 2: the Chargers, then ten with the Broncos.

790
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 4: Better than I thought, but he never finishes the season,

791
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 4: never finishes the season.

792
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 3: What's the average per carry? I bet it's really high.

793
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 2: Let's see here, where is the yards per six? Five

794
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 2: and a half. Two point eight was just the year

795
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 2: that he played one game. One game, Yeah, four point

796
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 2: six and five. So if you look at the years

797
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 2: that he's played, you know, at least half the season

798
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 2: or more, six five point seven four point six five.

799
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 3: Four point six would kill four round And that's his worst.

800
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 3: He averages I'm sure over five yards of carry for

801
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 3: his career.

802
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 2: Had a pretty good job of flying on the back

803
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 2: of the end zone too.

804
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, he has some home running ability. Still, he's a

805
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 3: really good player. He just makes me sad. They all

806
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 3: actually wrote a story. I forget who the third back was.

807
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 3: I think it was DeAndre Swift, but Dobbins, Swift, and

808
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 3: Warren were the three most rooted running backs in their

809
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,720
Speaker 3: high school class. Interesting, and there's somewhere deep in deears

810
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 3: dot com history of why Warren ended up he did,

811
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 3: but he didn't have He didn't go to Georgia in

812
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 3: Ohio State like those two.

813
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,439
Speaker 2: He was like a juco and then Utah State. Yeah,

814
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 2: and then one year at Oklahoma. So he played one

815
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: year of power football.

816
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, because he was so undersized and.

817
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 2: He was from Utah, he did get recruited or Texas

818
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: or Pennsylvania.

819
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 3: Jersey or something. You know, Yes, a hotbed.

820
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 2: Yes, it's crazy how much that's still even in the

821
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 2: age of like all these highlights and everything being online,

822
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 2: for these recruits still still matters. I had a feeling JK.

823
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 2: Dobbins was going to be one that you'd be interested in.

824
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 2: I would be too.

825
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 3: You'd have to have a little more insurance he just

826
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 3: then than just John.

827
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 2: You'd have to feel better about yeah, whoever that third

828
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 2: guy is when.

829
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 3: It gains John, wish you felt better about about Caleb.

830
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 2: Oh.

831
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 3: I mean, it would be such an easier conversation. But

832
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 3: now I kind of feel like you have to do

833
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 3: one of these names.

834
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 2: Yes, And the only thing there that gives me pause

835
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 2: then is if Caleb is a question mark and JK.

836
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 2: Dobbins from a health perspective is a question mark. Is

837
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 2: that too many question marks that room?

838
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 3: I could also envision a world where you do Dobbins

839
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 3: and Gamewell. Now. I don't like having three veterans under contract,

840
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 3: but Dobbins is gonna get a one year contract no

841
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 3: matter what, and it's not gonna be much because of

842
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 3: his injury history. If you sign game Well to a

843
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 3: two year deal, Dobbins will one, and don't draft any

844
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 3: you know. And if Johnson's so good he makes the

845
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 3: team as your fourth guy, great, but you better learn

846
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 3: how to tackle and kick off some special teams.

847
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 2: Dude, he's certainly he certainly he better. They need something

848
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 2: from that guy in some capacity next year, But or they.

849
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 3: Don't and the world will move on without him. I

850
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 3: mean again, what's the most say? You can't wait?

851
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 2: You can't wait? Yeah, yeah, there's there is no, there

852
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 2: is no We've still got time in this business.

853
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 3: No, he doesn't so have time, rem and Wilson doesn't

854
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 3: still have time.

855
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 2: Got to operate pretty much as if we got a

856
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 2: game this weekend. Yeah, I mean, you know that's yeah,

857
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 2: that's kind of the that's kind of the way you

858
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 2: have success in this league. Let's get to our last

859
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 2: break here of the first hour, more free agent and

860
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 2: see conversation plenty as we roll along today and continue

861
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 2: to tee up a big week for the Steelers, a

862
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 2: big week for all thirty two NFL franchises, as free

863
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 2: agency will get underway next week. Wesler, Matt Williamson. It's

864
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 2: the Drive Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network,

865
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 2: your tunes.

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00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

867
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Speaker 1: the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

868
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Speaker 2: Closing down the first hour of the Drive here on

869
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 2: this Friday, Matt, we had two beefier segments to get

870
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 2: us started, So just a few minutes here in two

871
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 2: I guess last interesting news of the day, tidbits that

872
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 2: we didn't hit on at this part of the show.

873
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 3: Something happening first.

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00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 2: Taylor Decker and the Lions and announcing that he requested

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00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 2: and will be granted his release by Detroit. So another

876
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 2: big overhaul piece here that I mean the last two years,

877
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 2: the overhaul that the Lions have had on that offensive

878
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 2: line has been crazy.

879
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, other than Seuel, it's been a lot

880
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 3: of overhaul and guys that look like they're gonna be

881
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 3: foundational dudes. Decker's up in age, He's had some injuries,

882
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 3: you know, Like I just did a mock and I

883
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 3: mocked the big Alabama tackle thinking he'd be a guard

884
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 3: for a year and then just be the left tackle

885
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 3: next year. I don't know what kind of market Decker have.

886
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 3: I don't know what his injury situation, durability situation is,

887
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 3: but he's still serviceable. I'm kind of shocked there, just

888
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 3: like parting ways. I wonder if they went to him

889
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 3: and said something like, hey, we need to restructure, you're

890
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 3: making too much, and he's like, well and just got me.

891
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 2: Yes. I have a feelingly he's probably like, I'm not

892
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:51,720
Speaker 2: much longer for this league.

893
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not taking a pay not time.

894
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 2: For me to take a pay cut at the tail

895
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 2: end of my career.

896
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 3: That's probably how it went.

897
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,439
Speaker 2: I have a feeling that that would would be what

898
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 2: what I would think too. And then in kind of surprising,

899
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 2: this is another one of those the world that we

900
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 2: live in now and even you got a double triple

901
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 2: check your sources and make sure everything's final. Earlier today,

902
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 2: Rashaun Gary took to his Instagram account and basically posted

903
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 2: a gream a goodbye to Green Bay, saying that like

904
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 2: you know, he's this chapter of my life is like

905
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 2: posted a nice graphic and a nice you know couple

906
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 2: like I've really enjoyed this time. It was amazing to

907
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: play for the packers. You know, I'll always you know,

908
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 2: remember it fondly. Thanks to everyone for the support. You know,

909
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 2: I'm onto my next stop and nowhere near done yet.

910
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 2: He posted that on his Instagram earlier today and that

911
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 2: since deleted it, And now the packers are saying that

912
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 2: Rashauan Gary has not been released, No definitive action has

913
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 2: been taken. All options remain on the table because.

914
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 3: He's rumored to be he's in a big contry.

915
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he posts like this goodbye on his social

916
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 2: media and then delete sit like an hour or two later.

917
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 2: The packer's saying, now, like pump the brakes, nothing definitive

918
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 2: has been decided.

919
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 3: So usually what that tells me this time of year,

920
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 3: been doing this for as many years I have is

921
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 3: they were about to release them, which they don't have

922
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 3: to do until the league your starts. That's actually when

923
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 3: the release happens. They can announce it. They can you know,

924
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 3: the lockers cleaned out, he can move.

925
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 2: Beton hasn't actually officially been released.

926
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 3: No, they'll all get released when the when the league

927
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 3: year opens, you know, So now that it becomes super public,

928
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 3: he's getting released. Maybe the Cardinals said, well, we'll give

929
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 3: you something, throw a pick, you know, like we'll give

930
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 3: you something for him, and they're like, okay, well then

931
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 3: that's better than for us or whatever. Yeah, or maybe

932
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 3: someone just picked up the phone said they may have

933
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 3: told Gary you're not coming back, and he probably isn't.

934
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 3: That's probably that part's probably written in stone. But which

935
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 3: is interesting because when he hits the market, he'll probably

936
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 3: be the fourth or fifth most sought after edge Russia,

937
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 3: you know, behind like Kendrickson and Phillips, you know, a

938
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 3: good company.

939
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 2: Good player. Yeah yeah, not a superstar, but a good player.

940
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 3: But maybe a team with a lot of money is

941
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 3: just like Raiders, you know, like, well we can eat

942
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 3: his contract and give you a seventh you know, right, okay,

943
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 3: we're moving Crosby or you know, wait, just give us

944
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,240
Speaker 3: a nuntil we move Crosby.

945
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean, give us a day

946
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 2: or two to get our books and order.

947
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then well he this one's almost done and

948
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 3: then we'll we'll deal with that. That's probably how that

949
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 3: usually goes. It's a total speculation, but you know.

950
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,439
Speaker 2: But just both of those things I thought, uh worth

951
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 2: mentioning and noteworthy.

952
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they're well known, guys, I've had success

953
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 3: in this league.

954
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 2: First hour in the books, another hour to go, plenty

955
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 2: more free agency conversation on the other side. We will

956
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 2: also get to your tweets at Wesley Yuhler at Williamson NFL.

957
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 2: If you want to get involved. Halfway home today on

958
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Speaker 2: the drive, Well Schuler, Matt Williamson. It is Steelers Nation

959
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