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Speaker 1: Thank you for You're coming back. Part two is underway.

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Speaker 1: Kendrick and Drake. Oh yeah, the man I mean, I

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Speaker 1: mean the Grammys that came along with it, and the

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Speaker 1: half super Bowl halftime show that came along with it,

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Speaker 1: and he goes on tour with Scissa and it's sold out.

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Speaker 2: I've never seen a dish record do that, never.

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Speaker 1: Ever, And you might not ever see it again. No

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Speaker 1: you won't.

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Speaker 2: I think this is the one only time. But you

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Speaker 2: know what it shows you man, And I hope the

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Speaker 2: Ovo camp and everybody knows and any other rapper that's

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Speaker 2: getting into this business and want to be a star.

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Speaker 2: They don't love you.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: It's just like the streets. You a showman. You here

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Speaker 2: to perform, do your show and go home. Certain fans

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Speaker 2: gonna love you, but the Masters is not gonna love you.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna respect you, but there's no love here. It's

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Speaker 2: the next man up. And that's what it goes to show.

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Speaker 2: Because if you could dominate for so long like Drake did,

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Speaker 2: and then somebody could just come move out the way

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Speaker 2: like a get out of here, where's the loyalty of

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Speaker 2: the love for the fans. It's like almost they didn't exist.

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Speaker 1: That man got ten diamond selling singles.

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Speaker 2: I mean, but still man like, it's still you don't

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Speaker 2: want to be getting, you know, assassinated on music on

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Speaker 2: record than your comments the Twitter, you walk in the street,

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Speaker 2: people shouting this to you doing it. It's a rough time, man, And.

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Speaker 1: It ain't gonna go away because guess what they play

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Speaker 1: that at every game every game. NBA A rented not

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Speaker 1: like us.

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Speaker 2: That tea is not all he gotta do is he

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Speaker 2: gotta make another one? He gotta he gotta make something

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Speaker 2: to counteract that.

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Speaker 1: Do it? But does it? What about just music? Does

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Speaker 1: it have to be a disc to counteract that? What

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Speaker 1: if he came out with another album? No, it don't

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Speaker 1: have to be a disc. Like remember, I'm never gonna

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Speaker 1: agree with the fans. They try to say Ethan was

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Speaker 1: the best dis record in the Jay and Nis battle.

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Speaker 2: Cool. We can't argue with the fans. But you know

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Speaker 2: what we're gonna do. We're gonna make a classic album,

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Speaker 2: gonna drop the Blueprint, We're gonna drop the Black album.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna do the things to out hit their opponent.

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Speaker 2: And that's how you win a war. It ain't you

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Speaker 2: can lose a battle you gotta win the war. Yes,

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Speaker 2: and that's where I pray. That's what they over there,

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Speaker 2: focused on the war, not the battle.

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Speaker 1: Are you surprised that Drake took it this way, that

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Speaker 1: he universal a gonna slu Are you surprised that he did?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm surprised.

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Speaker 1: I'm uh.

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Speaker 2: You know, you got people that's on both sides. Are

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Speaker 2: he's swing because it's a battle. Oh No, he's swing.

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Speaker 2: He's taking the Mega Giant down the industry and all this, but.

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Speaker 1: The Mega Giant built you.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't see a winner in this man.

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Speaker 2: It's just I don't see a winner in the.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you in the music industry. You've been

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Speaker 1: around the music to the lay people that's gonna watch this,

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Speaker 1: is gonna listen to this. What does he hope to

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Speaker 1: accomplished by this?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I really don't know, because I got

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Speaker 2: a lot of diss records about me, like the rap

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Speaker 2: of the game. He got like forty dish songs about me.

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Speaker 2: But I'm never gonna take him to court, Like I

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Speaker 2: don't know, bro, Like I don't know. I hope, I

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Speaker 2: hope it wasn't his decision. Like not Sometimes lawyers make decisions,

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Speaker 2: and yeah they got but they got them billable hours. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but still, man, this I don't know, man, rap beef

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Speaker 2: in court like should have been some physical altercation for that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, man. And you know they both my guys. Drake,

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Speaker 2: like you said, got ten more than anybody ten. Damon's

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Speaker 2: like he been on Billboard longer than anybody. Then you

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Speaker 2: got Ken Drink, who's just amazing phenomenal. Both of them are.

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Speaker 2: I don't think this is career ended, like a lot

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Speaker 2: of people say. I feel like Drake can definitely come

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Speaker 2: back from this, as you see, just drop the super

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Speaker 2: smash Nokia.

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Speaker 1: Man. But I had Fat Joe on in. Fat Joe said, Man,

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Speaker 1: look if they call you off the porch, you gotta go.

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Speaker 2: That's right, you gotta go. You can't, you can't.

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Speaker 1: They can't. Y'all have that too big the battle, Na, Man,

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Speaker 1: you can't. They try to hit up j J. Don't

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Speaker 1: even pay them no mind.

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Speaker 2: Jay had us in the lobby the rock. Remember you

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Speaker 2: wanted to get to the payhouse, you gotta go through

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Speaker 2: the lobby first. He had some hitters in the lobby.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't just get up there that easy. Drake ain't got

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Speaker 2: no hitters in the lobby. He gotta get some hitters

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Speaker 2: down there.

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Speaker 1: But think about this, bleak. All the people that Drake

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Speaker 1: done jumped on the feet with all the people that

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Speaker 1: on the tool when he go on tour, y'all come on.

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Speaker 2: Yep, everybody turned their back on this man. Say he

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Speaker 2: should have gave me a verse, should have gave me

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Speaker 2: a verse. I'd have been on the front line with you, superman.

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Speaker 2: Are you surprised they did the man like they asked, Like,

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Speaker 2: I trust no love in this game, man, people gonna

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Speaker 2: use you for what they need you for, and then

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Speaker 2: when they done with you, they're gonna put you back

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Speaker 2: because they don't need you no more. They got what

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Speaker 2: they needed. Since this game is dirty, man, it's a

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Speaker 2: really really dirty game, and you gotta pick your friends

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Speaker 2: and know your enemies for sure.

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Speaker 1: J Cole was like in it for hatse Jay co said, Nah,

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Speaker 1: this ain't for me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he got up out of there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah the podcast he got. He jumped back on his

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Speaker 1: bike and rolled off there, like I respect them. I

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Speaker 1: a't gonna knock them there.

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Speaker 2: You know, war and for every man, and I'm never

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Speaker 2: gonna say you're not your less of a man because

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Speaker 2: you don't want a war. It ain't for everybody. And

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Speaker 2: Jay Cole got shooters in the lobby so because he

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Speaker 2: got a record label. A lot of guys down there,

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Speaker 2: j I D and all them guys ain't they pin

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Speaker 2: game is serious?

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Speaker 1: Why why you? Why you always getting into it with

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Speaker 1: people though me, I don't got no problems you They

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Speaker 1: I guess they started with you. You and Cam had me.

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Speaker 2: And Cameron nah Man, Cam my guy, I don't got

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Speaker 2: no problems you got guys. That was maybe that rocker

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Speaker 2: Feller stuff. Yeah, that was real, like Cam, Jim Jones

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Speaker 2: on them. We all chilled in the studio together and

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Speaker 2: then out of nowhere we at beef, and then out

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Speaker 2: of nowhere it was over. But no one got punched

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Speaker 2: in the face, nobody threw a great at nobody. Nobody

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Speaker 2: even slipped on the banana pill in this beef. So

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Speaker 2: there was nothing.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, do you feel like beef?

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Speaker 2: This?

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Speaker 1: It is okay as long as it stays on wax

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Speaker 1: Because a lot of time, a lot because I think

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Speaker 1: people think that the Biggie Tupac it was fired. I

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Speaker 1: mean Tupac hit them up, was one of the great

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Speaker 1: dish songs, but it kind of spilled over it and

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Speaker 2: It's cruise. It's not necessarily the artists. Yes, it's the

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Speaker 2: guys you're with. Like I have guys. I might feel

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Speaker 2: offended by something someone say and I could be talking

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Speaker 2: just free talking around my guys.

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Speaker 1: Yo, this guy did it Da da da da da.

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Speaker 2: And now one of my guys want to go take

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Speaker 2: it upon himself to be like, hey, I'm a prove

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Speaker 2: a message is so bleak, I'm lower you. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: hit this guy for him. I can't control that. So

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Speaker 2: that's what it usually be. It be the cruise. It

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Speaker 2: don't usually be the artist that get into the brawl

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Speaker 2: unless we genuinely don't like each other. And like I said,

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Speaker 2: if you look at seventy five percent of the beef,

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Speaker 2: half these guys didn't even know each other, right.

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Speaker 1: But you, I mean, at that point in time, you

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Speaker 1: were like, man, I'm making too much money to beef.

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Speaker 2: But if they call you off the port, you gotta go.

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Speaker 1: You got to go.

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Speaker 2: You got to go, man, you got to go. If

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Speaker 2: you get called off the porch, you know how it

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Speaker 2: is in the neighborhood, man, or even in.

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Speaker 1: School three o'clock. That three o'clock meet me in the park.

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Speaker 2: Then you don't show up, you might as well tell

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Speaker 2: mom transfer school.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right what they say after school? He and

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Speaker 1: when school's out three o'clock, me and you, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: show up.

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Speaker 2: Mom gotta get them transfer papers.

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Speaker 1: Damn. Seriously, you're right. Hey, you're gonna give an ass cutter.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna take what you can't run for.

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Speaker 2: That's right, man. They gonna even in loss like losses.

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Speaker 2: Like you know, every defeat is not a defeat, right

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Speaker 2: at least if I lost fights. But I bet you

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Speaker 2: the person fight me, don't want to fight again. That's

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Speaker 2: what you gotta make you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Like, it wasn't an easy w It was a very

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Speaker 1: hard right, But the one that you get, you gotta

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Speaker 1: make it break loose. Don't let nobody break it up.

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Speaker 1: Make him break loose. He ain't gonna come back, That's right.

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Speaker 2: That's a fact. You gotta fight, man, win or draw, win,

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Speaker 2: lose or drug. Is it true you turned down? Oh boy,

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Speaker 2: they say I did just blade cam. Everybody say they

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Speaker 2: got the narrative. But I don't remember having a beat,

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Speaker 2: and if I did, I'm a fool. I was on.

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Speaker 2: I don't know Lemon had, but I could tell you

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Speaker 2: I turned down rested Peace Black raw beat WHOA.

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Speaker 1: I had that beat first, and.

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Speaker 2: I didn't use it. I didn't see you couldn't see

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Speaker 2: what he saw. I didn't see whoa. He made it WHOA.

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Speaker 2: The beat wasn't that, it was just the beat. When

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Speaker 2: he got the beat, he like, oh, now out WHOA like?

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Speaker 2: So he brought the life to the beat. But all

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Speaker 2: rappers have beats that they turned down, like my record

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Speaker 2: mind right, Radman didn't he passed on that beat, right,

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Speaker 2: It was just his DJs that made the beat for me.

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Speaker 2: So that circle of people passing up beats, I think

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Speaker 2: everything ain't for everyone.

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Speaker 1: And it's hard, you know what, because it's kind of

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Speaker 1: like a movie. You hear like such a such turned

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Speaker 1: and after you see that person in that role, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not so sure you would have done the role

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Speaker 1: So now on a beat, you're like, Okay, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mighta turned it down, but I don't know I have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't have did Old Boy he did Cam

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Speaker 2: and them come up, Yeah, it's already history.

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Speaker 1: What about Joe butten pump it up?

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Speaker 2: They Oh yeah I had that. I had that. I

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Speaker 2: had that Judge Blazers and you know I had that.

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Speaker 2: I passed that up. Joe Bunds got that one. That's cool.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, where are you on ghost writing? Now?

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Speaker 2: I feel like it's not good. But a lot of

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Speaker 2: these guys got a lot of writers in the room.

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Speaker 2: I feel like to sustain, you can't think of everything yourself, right,

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Speaker 2: so you need people, like, you know, to beat. Somebody

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Speaker 1: Right now home. Put the call in baby. Barbara Streisan

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan is Michael Jordan. And we know the sneak

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Speaker 2: No, nobody's Michael Jackson.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine if Michael was Michael Jackson in today's time?

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Speaker 2: Like what they say, so thirty is album went thirty

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's sold one hundred million hard copies.

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Speaker 2: Yes, a thriller, A thrill one hundred million, win thirty

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Speaker 1: I mean, think about when they would see him, and

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Speaker 2: see no nobody doing that to Never, not today, not today.

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Speaker 2: Everybody famous in their own right. They got an Instagram page,

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Speaker 1: He ain't lick. Where are you on? Sampling? Oh?

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Speaker 2: I love it? You know, some of the best best

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Speaker 2: Them boys know how to chop a sample up the

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Speaker 1: Right? Like? Serious? Is it a situation like somebody wants

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Speaker 2: somebody sampling your music, you definitely want to hear it

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Speaker 1: Destiny Child hold On, they was booted.

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Speaker 2: They got all Star in Philly, Yeah, Philly rough Man,

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Speaker 2: Philly Boom, Santa Claus. They threw snowball he didn't bringing president,

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Speaker 2: Even to temph there, but that's that just shows you

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Speaker 1: You know what you got, but you know, in order

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Speaker 2: It could be your career exit. They can walk you

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Speaker 2: let's walk her off right Like, nah, b is this

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Speaker 2: Like Chris Brown is, he's a he got bones in

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Speaker 2: a bio pick on Mike. They need to let him

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Speaker 1: What wasn't he supposed to perform something at the BTS

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Speaker 2: You know how it is? Man, they bring up the

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Speaker 1: And time again. How long? How long? How long? How long? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Like, come on, man, if we live in the country

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Speaker 2: Everybody lives don't win, and they got lives now, you

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Speaker 1: We help him too. Yes, yes, how big could he

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Speaker 2: Man, I don't see no stopping without that incident. I

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Speaker 2: That's why I feel like they gotta let that go.

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Speaker 2: That kid don't prove itself that he's a genuine, genuinely sorry.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, she's forgiving him exactly, but they don't want

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Speaker 1: Forgiveness new rappers today. Yes, I talked to comedians and

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Speaker 2: That's the that's the power of social media though, Like

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Speaker 2: These kids just taking Uber to work. Now, I can't

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Speaker 2: and their time, and I feel like these kids today

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Speaker 1: So they do it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and it's like let that go, man, Let these

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Speaker 1: You got an opportunity to work with t I, Missy Elliott,

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Speaker 2: many hits for countless artists and R and B groups

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Speaker 2: and the.

434
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Speaker 1: The videos and futuristic Yes, I mean, and I hate

435
00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,280
Speaker 1: that the video the video era has gone.

436
00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,000
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that's because intention span is dying.

437
00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:50,200
Speaker 1: Though.

438
00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,359
Speaker 2: People don't even watch videos anymore.

439
00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:53,960
Speaker 1: It's all on your your phone.

440
00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,240
Speaker 2: A little quick, three minute real on your Instagram and

441
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Speaker 2: that's it.

442
00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:57,159
Speaker 1: You better be.

443
00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,119
Speaker 2: Back my podcast, right, So that's what I think it is.

444
00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,000
Speaker 2: But back then, man, I appreciate what they did her

445
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,080
Speaker 2: bust the rhymes, Ludacris. I feel like they was the

446
00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,920
Speaker 2: most creative artist of our genre.

447
00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:12,880
Speaker 1: Is it true?

448
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,560
Speaker 2: T i Wan charged you like twenty Yeah, he charged

449
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 2: me twenty five hundred man for around Here? Word up, man,

450
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:20,560
Speaker 2: I love Taut for that man, he could have got

451
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,240
Speaker 2: five bands and he's like, nah, I do it for

452
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:23,080
Speaker 2: twenty five hundred.

453
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,760
Speaker 1: Rumor has it that you discovered Rose Oh real?

454
00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,800
Speaker 2: I'm I'm not gonna take full credit, but I was

455
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,359
Speaker 2: one of the founders of it. Was when we was

456
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,040
Speaker 2: doing the song around Here, we was in Circle House Studio,

457
00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,320
Speaker 2: you know, tricking them in the studio, and I remember

458
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 2: Ross walking up on me like yo, bleak. I get busy, man,

459
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,639
Speaker 2: I'll be writing these hooks doing all of this, and

460
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,919
Speaker 2: I'm like, what, let me hear something? He rhyme for me,

461
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,119
Speaker 2: and I'm like, yo, beans come here like yo beans

462
00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,159
Speaker 2: listening to Sun and he rhymed for beans. I'm like

463
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:52,120
Speaker 2: beans like yo.

464
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:52,720
Speaker 1: He got it.

465
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,399
Speaker 2: I remember calling Jay like yo slipping slide.

466
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Speaker 1: Got somebody out here, you might want to come check

467
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 1: that out? And the rest is history? So is it?

468
00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 1: Can you just like okay, so my man say, hey

469
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,959
Speaker 1: check this out? Bleak? Hey, you know I get down, Well,

470
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 1: let me hear something. Do you know right away? Okay?

471
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:12,719
Speaker 1: He got it?

472
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 2: You can tell, You can tell, especially if a person

473
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 2: just wrap right there on the spot. A lot of

474
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 2: people can rap on the spot but can't rap on

475
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 2: the beat. A lot of people can rap on the

476
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 2: beat and can't rap on the spot. So a person

477
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 2: who could do both right there is like, then he's

478
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,159
Speaker 2: telling you I wrote X y Z songs and the

479
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,480
Speaker 2: songs that's on the chart. Yeah, gotta take it for consideration.

480
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,560
Speaker 1: Now as a record as a record head yourself, what

481
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:37,440
Speaker 1: are you looking for in an.

482
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:41,640
Speaker 2: Artist, No cry babies, because these artists need parenting. These

483
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 2: artists is babies. I don't think the parents is finishing

484
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,879
Speaker 2: the job at home because they come here as grown

485
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,639
Speaker 2: men and want you to take care of them. It's like, fam,

486
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,439
Speaker 2: you didn't sell a record, and I'm supposed to do

487
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 2: what for you. I'm supped to buy you a Rolex.

488
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to do this, take you, put you in.

489
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,920
Speaker 2: You gotta fly first class. You know you gotta sell

490
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 2: records to do that, right, Like these guys come Prima

491
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 2: Donna ready. That's all I want to meet, the real

492
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 2: grinding artists that want to win from the bottom up,

493
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 2: that don't think you're supposed to just put me there

494
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 2: and it's just all gonna happen.

495
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 1: You said something very interested, You said the grind, and

496
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,400
Speaker 1: it seems like people run from the grind. Now.

497
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,399
Speaker 2: They don't want it, man, They want to shine. They

498
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,919
Speaker 2: don't want the grind. They want to shine.

499
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 1: Man, that you can't have it.

500
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,360
Speaker 2: They don't know you can't get one without the other.

501
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 2: In order to shine, you have to grind, right because

502
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,119
Speaker 2: if you just shine it, somebody gonna take it from you.

503
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 2: So gad go on the block. With no work. Somebody

504
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 2: gonna take that jury quick man.

505
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 1: Yet. And I've always wondered this is that? And we

506
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 1: kind of touched on a little earlier. Why is it

507
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 1: that this get what is so what is so enduring?

508
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:54,120
Speaker 1: What is so fascinating, so captivating that people that got

509
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 1: got everything, they got everything to lose, nothing to gain

510
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 1: by being in that situation? What is it? Blink, You

511
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,400
Speaker 1: gotta tell me something, give me something to says hey,

512
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 1: sear Oh, this is what it is right here. This

513
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 1: is why they do it.

514
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 2: Why I think it's family, man. They want that love

515
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 2: that they never got at home. Know, these kids go

516
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 2: outside in the streets, show you the love that your

517
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 2: family don't show you. Like I said, I grew up

518
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 2: without a father, so I didn't know what being a

519
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 2: man was until I got with the guys, you know

520
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 2: what I mean. And you dudes, you say certain things

521
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 2: and then you get punched in them out for them things.

522
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 2: A lot of these kids don't get that today, and neither.

523
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 2: They just going out for the love and don't get

524
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 2: the other side of the love. They just getting the

525
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 2: love and they just go full fledge and dive into

526
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 2: it and like this is my gang. That's my family.

527
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 2: And then when something go wrong they realize the gang

528
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 2: wasn't family all they gang.

529
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 1: Now you're stucky and people looking at you crazy, like, bro,

530
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,400
Speaker 1: you had it all you flying private, Yes, you got

531
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 1: you got AP's and you got protects, and you got

532
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 1: Odamars and you got all this. You got rollses and

533
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 1: you living in the highlight and want to do that.

534
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,120
Speaker 2: They want to throw it up for the gang.

535
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 1: Do you realize that gang would which places would you?

536
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,360
Speaker 1: It would douce you out, It would not even look

537
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 1: your way. That's right?

538
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 2: That like if you if you switch rolls ninety percent

539
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 2: of the gang members and leave you right where you at,

540
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 2: they get your opportunity one hundred percent. Nobody want to

541
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 2: Anybody that grew up in that environment, lived that life

542
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 2: for real, they don't want to do that. Man, you're

543
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 2: looking for ways to get out of that. It's not fun.

544
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 2: It's not the glamorous life. You don't fascinate that neither.

545
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 1: Wow. When back in the day, it basically you had

546
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: two areas. You had New York and you had Cali. Yes,

547
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: but now you got you can find anywhere anywhere.

548
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 2: It could be from Alaska today, be like, yeah, Eskimo flow.

549
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: What the influence because you know Atlanta, now, yeah you

550
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 1: got all those guys, you got a little baby, and

551
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 1: you got obviously looted and and ti and and uh

552
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 1: what you mean?

553
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 2: Jeez, I think they got a power plant down there.

554
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 2: They're just breathing.

555
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got we got to think.

556
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 2: That that's the that's the mecca is what you know.

557
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 2: That's how New York was twenty years ago. Now Atlanta

558
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 2: got it. And I'm happy to see them because Atlanta

559
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 2: was a small, vibrant city. Now if you look at

560
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 2: l is like a major city like like like an

561
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 2: La or New York now, and it's amazing. Man, got

562
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 2: too much talent down there.

563
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: You know, you see artists in prisons. Oh man, bro

564
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: how you how you? How you how you go to jail?

565
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: And you got a couple million? I mean, what what

566
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: what is it? What is it that I'm trying to

567
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 1: figure out? Like man, I got a couple of Man

568
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 1: I ain't really trying. I ain't trying to do nothing

569
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 1: sleazy or slimy. You know, I would open up reputable businesses.

570
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 2: Yes, a lot of these guys, like I said, they

571
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 2: use rap to be who they always dream to be.

572
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 2: You know, like we all come from the urban environments, shadows,

573
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 2: whatever you want to call them. And you know, you

574
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,120
Speaker 2: got your neighborhood drug, then got the big time tough

575
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 2: guy in the neighborhood beat everybody up. A lot of

576
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 2: these guys get record deals and try to act like

577
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 2: the local drug dealer. They saw the local tough guy

578
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 2: they saw and they want to live that life. And

579
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 2: that's why when and they don't understand what it takes

580
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 2: to live that life. Yeah, you know what I mean.

581
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 2: And it's only only two things that come with living

582
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 2: this life. It's either you're gonna die, you goa end

583
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 2: up in that box, or you gonna end up in

584
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,199
Speaker 2: the other boxes. What box you want to be in?

585
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 2: The one that goes six feet or the one that's

586
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 2: just six feet by ten?

587
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: That's it? Yeah, that's it. So wow, movies you act

588
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:34,919
Speaker 1: in a few movies?

589
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 2: Yes, man?

590
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: Is that something you would like to continue to do

591
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: or you you like?

592
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 2: H Now, if somebody give me something cool, I think

593
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 2: I'm I'm ready.

594
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 3: Now.

595
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 2: Back then, I was a little scared. They offered me

596
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 2: drum line. I turned it down because I was scared. Man,

597
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 2: I didn't think I could be a drummer and go

598
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 2: back to the neighborhood. I thought I would have forty

599
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 2: more fights.

600
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. You wouldn't have to go back

601
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: to the neighborhood.

602
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 2: Gone. I'd have been in bel air or somewhere. I'd

603
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 2: have been gone. I didn't tell you, I didn't have

604
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 2: the vision.

605
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: Uh, Kevin Hard Charlie Murphy, you's with them in Paper Soldiers. Yes,

606
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: what was that experience?

607
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 2: Like amazing?

608
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 1: Man.

609
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 2: That was my first time actually meeting keV and I

610
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 2: remember telling him on the set like, Yo, bro, you're

611
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 2: the funniest guy ever met. Like, Yo, you're gonna blow

612
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 2: up in this business.

613
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 1: The hardest working moo too. Yes he is. Man, you

614
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 1: don't stop.

615
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 2: That's why I said, a lot of these guys people

616
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 2: see on camera and big, they think they just chilling now,

617
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 2: enjoying the money. They don't understand. They don't even get

618
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 2: a chance to touch the money. They're working so much.

619
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: keV go from moving to TV show, to commercials, back

620
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: to movies, back to do He don't stop. He doesn't know.

621
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: He work all the time. And that want to be

622
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 1: a he want to be Yeah, he gonna, yeah, he

623
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: gonna get it, especially he heard the rock got it,

624
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 1: He's gonna get it? Oh yeah, oh yeah he coming.

625
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: Did you think keV would be what he when you

626
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: was on that, when you was on the set with him.

627
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 2: Yes, I knew man At that time, you know, comedians

628
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: was dying. You know, Chris was my man named Chris

629
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 2: Tucker in the Africa. I didn't want to curse no more.

630
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 2: You know, we just had wasn't a lot of real

631
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 2: good actors at that time, like real comedians that can act.

632
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 2: Like you had comedians that can get up and do

633
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 2: a stand up comic show that's fly, but then they

634
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: get on the screen and it's just not the same.

635
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: Cav could do both, and I feel like we didn't

636
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 2: have an actor who can really do both since Eddie Murphy.

637
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: Uh, Chappelle. I thought Chappelle was gonna but.

638
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 2: You think Chappelle what movie Chappelle had that.

639
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: Professor club and not a Professor Reggie. Should I get him? Yeah?

640
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah he did.

641
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but that wasn't what them by Rolls like

642
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: he was to lead.

643
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 2: That's what I mean. He didn't never have a lead

644
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 2: role like he did. Cameo roll support and Rolls was good,

645
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 2: but come on cav to carry theo to carry the movie. Yeah,

646
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 2: that's what I mean. Only Eddie Murphy did that. They

647
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 2: could get on stage to let the pair to tell

648
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 2: you a pride, pride with the young for that. You know,

649
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 2: I remember his movies more than his like my favorite

650
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 2: prior movie see no Evil here, No even.

651
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: Uh. Nick Cannon came to the projects.

652
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 2: Nick Cannon was my dog. That's still my dog.

653
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: You know.

654
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 2: Nick Cannon used to hang with us back in the day.

655
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: He was always you know, he was managed by the

656
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 2: same manager, you know what I mean. I knew Nick

657
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 2: was gonna be what he is today. He was funny

658
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 2: as hell back then, really, so I knew I knew

659
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 2: Nick and then you know, rap was just a hobby

660
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 2: form like the comic and telling jokes and acting was

661
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 2: really what he really really wanted to do.

662
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: Who else came to the projects to hang out that

663
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: would people will be surprised that came out and hung

664
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: out with you.

665
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 2: In Marci oh Man out from La I remember Ras

666
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 2: Cash came to Marsie one time with us. You know,

667
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 2: Foxy Brown been in Marsie a million times. We had

668
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 2: Oprah and Marcy. Yeah, man, Oprah came down to the hood.

669
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 2: We had a lot of people in ROSSI you know

670
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like, if I'm not mistaken, I'm trying

671
00:29:59,960 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 2: to the thing. You know, it's been so many people

672
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 2: breeze through, Marcie. It's just like I remember when back

673
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 2: in the days and Rock Him and Big Daddy Kane

674
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 2: and them came through us.

675
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:08,479
Speaker 1: He was a big deal too.

676
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 2: There's a lot of legends came through the project.

677
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: Hey man, look, Big Daddy Kane and Rock Him don't

678
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: get the credit they deserve.

679
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 3: Man.

680
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,479
Speaker 1: But but you know, people if it didn't happen, if

681
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: it didn't happen today, people think it wasn't a good

682
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: That's right, Rob, Look you rock Him, Big Daddy.

683
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 2: Kane, k r s One, Oh my, oh man, Kris

684
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 2: Won and he's like, if you want to talk about

685
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 2: battle rapping, carras One came out and tried to destroy

686
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: a whole burrow. Yeah, he wasn't just this in the rapper.

687
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 2: He tried this the old burrow. How do you get

688
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 2: Serena to star in your video? Oh that was Jay

689
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 2: J made that happen. I didn't know Serena. I met

690
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 2: how at the at the video shoot. If you pay

691
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 2: attend to the video. We had Megan Good in the

692
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 2: video too. Serena was in the video. We had the

693
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 2: w NBA girls in the video. You know, shout out

694
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 2: to all of them. That was Jay Man. He was

695
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 2: the plug.

696
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: Do I can understand why people say that what whole

697
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: hook that up?

698
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was the plug man. I didn't know them.

699
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: And she played She played jay z and tennis.

700
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 2: Yes, she played.

701
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: She was.

702
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 2: You know, it's so crazy, like we really filmed that,

703
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 2: like seeing how how fast she can serve the ball

704
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 2: seventy five eighty five miles an hour.

705
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: And that was just she was taking it easy. I

706
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: just didn't the whole return it.

707
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 2: No, heck no, no, it's too fastn't see. It's almost

708
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 2: like a bullet.

709
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: And she put spin on yo.

710
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 2: And remember that was young Serena for the babies before

711
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 2: the marriage. All of that that was strength.

712
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: Did you really have endorsement deals with like Jamal Crawford

713
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: and laughing girl.

714
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, that was just my guy. Yeah,

715
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 2: Jamal craft in my bro. You know, I just always

716
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 2: hung out with them going to the game, especially when

717
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 2: he was a Nick Oboka. You know, that's my guy.

718
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 2: Always support him. He was in my video for like That. Yes,

719
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 2: that's my guy, but I never had no endorsement. Dell's

720
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 2: Jay tied me up rock a wear all that stuff.

721
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 2: I gotta wear that stuff. Your Nicks, you're gonna do

722
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: it this year? I thought so, but I knew. I

723
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 2: knew the Knicks was gonna Nick. Come on, man, I'm

724
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 2: a New York cuner. Knicks gonna Nick Eventually, hopefully next

725
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 2: year we get over that.

726
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: Bro, how y'all fire a coach. It ain't got nobody

727
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: in mind.

728
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 2: That's the Knicks going Nick. I'm telling you, the Knicks

729
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 2: is gonna Nick. I don't know what they did and

730
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 2: what they doing over there. They got my guy Western office, though,

731
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 2: he gonna get it.

732
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. What have you learned most about money?

733
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 2: That is not the most important thing. Family is more

734
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 2: important than money. Money is something that makes life easier,

735
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 2: but it doesn't make life better. You know, love makes

736
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: life better. The people that you cared, the loved ones

737
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 2: around you, is way more important than money. Because the

738
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 2: people that keep you focused, you'll always be able to

739
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 2: make money. Can't always make meet loved ones. You know,

740
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 2: you can always make money long as you got hustle

741
00:32:58,480 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: in your heart.

742
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: But family sometimes change when you get money.

743
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 2: Oh yes, definitely. See now when I'm taught about family,

744
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 2: I'm trying to wife the kids. You're not talking about

745
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 2: the cousin. It's a different family that.

746
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

747
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 2: So the cousins and all that they think, you know,

748
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 2: you got it, like and it's like, I don't go

749
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 2: to work to give my money away. Right, you can

750
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 2: come to work with me. You come make something with me,

751
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 2: Come find a position and something that I'm doing, and

752
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 2: come get some money with me. But I'll be damn

753
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 2: if I'm gonna go to work and just give it away.

754
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: Right.

755
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 2: So, you know, but the loved ones, my wife, my daughter,

756
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 2: my son, like that love right there is just unmatch.

757
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 2: And that's what gives me the strength, you know, and

758
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 2: motivation to keep going every day, to know what I'm

759
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 2: leaving this for.

760
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: When you don't give you know, man, you got it,

761
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: you got it, Okay. If you don't give it no

762
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: more or something, you know, it's funny you go back. Man,

763
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what he did with all that money.

764
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: I gave it folk, that's right. I gave it all

765
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: to you. And then when you get to that part,

766
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: no one got that solution. No one want to help.

767
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: Nobody grabbing and idea nothing.

768
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 2: Man, if I had it, this is what I would do.

769
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 2: You know you would exactly. That's what everybody say. If

770
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 2: I hate the f people, That's why I think I

771
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 2: love in my mind. If it was a fifth we

772
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 2: all be drunk. Nobody as a Capsuley, she's crazy. What's

773
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,479
Speaker 2: she talking about? But now I know what she talking about?

774
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: You you absolutely what's the what do you think some

775
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: of the worst purchases you made? Cars?

776
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 2: Cars is the worst, the worst thing to buy, I

777
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 2: feel because it's no, it's no, you.

778
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: Don't gain appreciating it.

779
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 2: As soon as you drive off the lote. You lost money.

780
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 2: Like you literally can buy a car today and make it.

781
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 2: You turn and bring it right back and it's less

782
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 2: twenty thousand less.

783
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,959
Speaker 1: Than we Yeah, I'm like, bro, you saw me making Yeah, like.

784
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 2: I didn't even leave the lot. Yeah. So I feel

785
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 2: like cars are the worst. And jury that doesn't matter,

786
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 2: Like do you buy the right jury, the right rolex,

787
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 2: the right chain, the right piece, then it adds but bleak, No,

788
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 2: but you need a few.

789
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: You need a few, Uh, bro? I mean you know

790
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: like Burrows, so you let you got Jada Fat Joe

791
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 1: recently written viral saying a lot of rappers are living

792
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 1: paycheck to paycheck.

793
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 2: Oh is that true? Oh yeah, a lot of rappers.

794
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 2: Definitely a lot of these new age rappers. And back

795
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 2: in the day you make the money back in the

796
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 2: day that they get. And today you have to be

797
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 2: a measure, a major star. You have to be able

798
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 2: to sell things other than records to get the money today,

799
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: because it's the other companies that's given these guys the money.

800
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 2: It's not the record labels that's giving these guys the money.

801
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: It's the endorsement deals.

802
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: You see. You see Travis Scott, he's with Nike, Yeah,

803
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: he's Odemars begetting yes, like you.

804
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 2: Know what I mean. Those deals is what's giving these

805
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 2: guys the major major millions. But as far as like

806
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,959
Speaker 2: a regular rapper, yeah, they depending on the show right now,

807
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 2: they praying a promoter call them the phone ring and

808
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 2: they get a gig. But I feel like rappers is

809
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 2: it's too much opportunity with your money today to do

810
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 2: too many things, like all these businesses, Like a lot

811
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: of these kids as entrepreneurs, they just don't know how

812
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:06,760
Speaker 2: to get into the right business.

813
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: Right hole, wrap the line about you, he said, as

814
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: long as I'm alive, bleaks a millionaire, and even if

815
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: I die, he's in my will somewhere.

816
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 2: Yes, I love that. It's my brother man, you know

817
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 2: I love it like it made the road a little

818
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 2: bit rough because now I go talk to a DJ

819
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 2: like hey, I need you to play this record. They're like, yeah,

820
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 2: but hope set you good, Sam, take care of me.

821
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: Like what you mean?

822
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: I still gotta work, he said.

823
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 1: He I'm in the will. That mean he gotta go. Yeah,

824
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 1: he ain't give it to me now right, I still

825
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: gotta earn it. So in order to get your music

826
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: played on the radio, you gotta break them off.

827
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 2: A lot of people used to be on it like that,

828
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 2: like yo, cause you know DJ's and it ain't you know.

829
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 2: Certain people like to say, hey, ol of me. I

830
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 2: look at it different if you're an artist, right, if

831
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 2: you're a DJ, just put yourself into DJ shoes. And

832
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: I'm an artist. I'm trying to get you to play

833
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 2: my record right now. You know this record because you

834
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: played it, my life changed. You still just the radio DJ, like, dog,

835
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna help you blow up, but you're not gonna

836
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 2: look out for me. You're not gonna let me DJ

837
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 2: a few shows. It's one hand washed the other business. Basically,

838
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 2: that's what it is. It ain't really pay to play

839
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 2: my record. It's like, hey, dog, you got an opportunity

840
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 2: show me that I got an opportunity with you before

841
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 2: I support you.

842
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 1: When people when you have money bleak, everybody thinks like, so, man,

843
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: you got so much money, you can live somebody five hundred,

844
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: you can lift somebody twenty five hundred, you can live

845
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: somebody lead a liend. No, you can give somebody because

846
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: you ain't letting them money out. Yeah, I'll only I'll

847
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: only give money that if I get it back, if

848
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: I already know I ain't gonna get it back.

849
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: One of the best pieces of advice I ever heard is,

850
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: if you love your friends, never loan the money. Nope, Like,

851
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 2: just give it to them, yep, don't expect anything back.

852
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 2: So I live by that, Like, I love my friends,

853
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 2: So if they ask me for somen just don't put

854
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 2: borrow on it because you know you're not gonna pay

855
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 2: me back. No, And when I want my money bags,

856
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 2: make take your funky ass twenty Why.

857
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: My money funky?

858
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 3: Now?

859
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 1: I ain't no money when I gave it stink. But

860
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: you know, and people look at like the internet was

861
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,720
Speaker 1: going crazy. Man if I if I was worth three billion,

862
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: I was worth four billion, and cubs came up to me.

863
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: I break him off.

864
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 2: Yeah right, everybody said, you know it's always the money, yes,

865
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 2: Like until you live that life and put yourself in

866
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 2: that person's shoes. Man, stop with the comparison. Just live

867
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 2: your life and enjoy it.

868
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 1: Man.

869
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all I that's the advice I got for people.

870
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 2: Live and enjoy. Don't worry about what others do control

871
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 2: with you.

872
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: Man. You know they can spend other people's money quick too.

873
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 2: That's why they get rich in these games so fast.

874
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 2: You're gonna look at GTA or something. These guys got

875
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 2: mansions four hundred million. Like how you hustle harder in

876
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 2: the game than in the street.

877
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: Okay, do say yes, Jay helped turn that into a

878
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: billion dollar.

879
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, but at first, you know, this is my

880
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 2: baby right here, and I give all the credits in

881
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 2: the world and my wife for me even being a

882
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 2: part of this. Really yeah, because I was at that paycheck,

883
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 2: the paycheck moment, you know, forking the road and I'm

884
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 2: looking at my wife like, yo, show's not coming in

885
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 2: like that, not dropping albums like that, Like I gotta

886
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 2: figure out what I'm gonna get into. And she was like, yo,

887
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 2: your brother owned a hundred different businesses. You don't want

888
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 2: to get play a role and nothing but the music.

889
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, let me go talk to Bro.

890
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 2: And when I went and had the meeting with Jay,

891
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 2: and he like, yo, I got this new brand called Duce.

892
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 2: Let me see what you could do with it. And boy,

893
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 2: I took it to the moon, turned it up in

894
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 2: every hood in New York, New Jersey, Miami, Atlanta, and

895
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 2: we just went.

896
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: You got to get out. Yeah, I mean, I mean

897
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: for what we take this because, like you said, being

898
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: being in the spirits business, I thought, can you put

899
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: it out there they pick it up? No, no, no,

900
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 1: you gotta work. You gotta do those.

901
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 2: You gotta go to the test the testings, the taste testings.

902
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 2: You gotta go to the bard meetings with the distributors. Yes,

903
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 2: you gotta go to the You gotta have somebody, what

904
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 2: is it, the guy doing a mixed silogy.

905
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, all it is. You gotta make slargy. You

906
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: got to go to GSM your sales meetings. You gotta

907
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: be in front of them and you gotta talk, and

908
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: you gotta talk. You can't vote. No, no, no, no no, no.

909
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: My name on this. So I gotta tell you it's

910
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: a VSOP. I gotta tell you that it's four to

911
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: six years of age. I gotta tell you what's in it.

912
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: It's an only blocked rape and teach Champagne. In order

913
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 1: to be called a kanyak, it has to start in

914
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: that reagion for at least two years. Right, it has

915
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: to go to the copper park. They got to be

916
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 1: in the wooden barrel, that's right.

917
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 2: If it don't go in the wooden barrel, it ain't

918
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 2: gonna come out brown. No, it's gonna be clear. We're

919
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 2: gonna be calling.

920
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: Yere so and so they're like, man, you really, I said, bro,

921
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: it got my name on it, It got my money

922
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: in this.

923
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 2: And you gotta be involved, hands on, ten toes down.

924
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 2: You gotta do all of this stuff because it ain't

925
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,439
Speaker 2: gonna sell itself. No, And people don't know what's good

926
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 2: just by looking at no, So you have to introduce

927
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 2: them to me good.

928
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: And because you know a lot of times you know

929
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,439
Speaker 1: you've been eating something. It's like anything. You've been eating

930
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: hamburg for a long time. You don't realize how good

931
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: steak is. That's what you might not realize how good

932
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: chicken is. So you got to introduce himself. Hey, just

933
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: give it a try.

934
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 2: Bring with a try. That's right. And I always tell people, man,

935
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 2: I would with douce. I always tell people, you can

936
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 2: mix duce with water and it's gonna go. So whatever

937
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 2: your preference is, if we I feel like with this,

938
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 2: we became the tequilla Konyak, but we go fine with

939
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 2: We go with anything. I don't care what you pour

940
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 2: us in. You could pour us in v and grape juice.

941
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 2: We told me, I've been trust me. I don't care

942
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 2: what you mixed with.

943
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: We go with. I went to uh, I went to

944
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,879
Speaker 1: u Kgyac region. I was over there Konnak France yea

945
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: oh man, and the thing is and I was like

946
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: they was. They was getting it out and you know,

947
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: they had the chef over there and he's preparing it

948
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: and they have ginger ale. I was like, damn, they

949
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: knew I like ginger ale. But that's why drink it

950
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: cuts right. Yeah, they poured ginger al in it.

951
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 2: You know, what's the eldo what I've found out about

952
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 2: going to Koonnak France. See, I'm not even gonna bring

953
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 2: this up because I don't want to stay no controversy

954
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 2: with these other brands, even though we don't care about

955
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 2: this other brand. But you know, Hennessy is made in Kognak, France.

956
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 2: But it's not sold in France. You know that right,

957
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 2: It's not sold nowhere outside of America. We're the only

958
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 2: ones where sold that. I just want to know.

959
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: But we don't.

960
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 2: We ain't promoting that duck.

961
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: We don't. We don't. We look, we don't talk bad

962
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: about every companies. We just talk good about our That's right.

963
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 2: I'm just letting you know. You go to London somewhere,

964
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 2: do say is.

965
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: There you you Van Lathan? You had a back and forth.

966
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 2: With oh, a quick one, you know, because he took

967
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 2: a shot at the Big Homie and it's like, you know,

968
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 2: they showed you love bro. I seen you at the brunch,

969
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 2: seen you at Mad Rock Nation events, and you see

970
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,720
Speaker 2: Jay with a little hiccup, you know, somebody falsely accused

971
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 2: of him, and you want to take.

972
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: A shot like he's on that side, like, he's that.

973
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 2: Type of guy. Didn't like that. Come on, bro, I

974
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 2: didn't like that. He lucky it was on Instagram, so

975
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 2: I had have seen him. He'd met the real me.

976
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 2: He went in met Memphis Bleak.

977
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 1: No, no, no, you got to be Bleak like, you

978
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 1: got to be a buddy.

979
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 2: But when it comes to that, yeah, that's personal, bro,

980
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 2: and that that there's no joking with that, right, it's

981
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 2: no play play with that, bro like, And that's how

982
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 2: I felt in that situation.

983
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: You're a married man, now, Yeah, what did marriage do for? Bleak?

984
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: Raised me?

985
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 2: It grew me up, made me grow up like I

986
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 2: was a grown up. I was living but but my

987
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 2: wife made me feel alive again. And I feel like

988
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: she she put me back on track when I thought

989
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 2: my train derouled. She showed me the tracks just how

990
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 2: to turn. All we had to do was go that

991
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 2: way and she brought perspective back to my life.

992
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 1: Makes you think about something other than self. Hunh, that's right.

993
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 2: Definitely go home and you know you're working to us,

994
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 2: so you're working for something. But marriage is not easy.

995
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 2: It's a full it's an ever you got job.

996
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: Getting marriage is easy? Yes, stay in marriage is what's hard. Yes,

997
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: you gotta work at that.

998
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 2: It's a full time job. And I feel like, you

999
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 2: know me being who I am. I'm a spontaneous guy,

1000
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: so it's hard to lose the interest with me. You

1001
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 2: might wake up and see a horse outside horseback ride?

1002
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 2: What that so?

1003
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 1: And that's what you know. People that's been mad for

1004
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: a long period of time, they like Shannon, you have

1005
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: to work to stay married. Yes, the person that you

1006
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: married on a Saturday, she's gonna wake up Sunday. She's

1007
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: not that same person.

1008
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 2: That's right.

1009
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 1: You need to wake up Monday. And you're not the

1010
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: same man neither.

1011
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 2: Like we all go through our changes and phases, and

1012
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 2: you know, we grow and we like things different, and

1013
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 2: I feel like having someone to share that experience. Where

1014
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 2: is the beautiful part of life to me?

1015
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: But it's easy to say if it?

1016
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 2: Yes, it's easy to it's easy. Why you get mad?

1017
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 1: Shit? I mean this shit and not kids? Oh?

1018
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 2: Man, I love them. My kids is the best part

1019
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 2: of my me.

1020
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: What type of day of bleak is bleak? Oh?

1021
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 2: I'm the fun dad. I'm the dad that do everything

1022
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 2: I always wanted as a kid. Because I told you

1023
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 2: I never had a father. I never said the word

1024
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 2: dad in my life. So when I first had my son,

1025
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 2: I didn't even like them calling me dad. It's like

1026
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 2: what call me bleak? Just like dad didn't even sound

1027
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 2: right right. So then, you know, as I got older

1028
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 2: and really realizing the responsibility of a dad is like,

1029
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 2: wait a minute.

1030
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 1: Call me DADDA called me dad? I earned that you

1031
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: wanted you wasn't a friend dads? No, cause you know

1032
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: because because in today's time, you know that my dad

1033
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: is my best friend, my mom is my best friend.

1034
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: No I'm dead, Your best friend lives down the street,

1035
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: or he lives and such and such.

1036
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 2: I'm I'm the understanding parent when you could come talk

1037
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: to me and tell me anything, but don't talk to

1038
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 2: me like I'm your friend. We're never gonna do that.

1039
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 2: Only person I say with my daughter, though she run

1040
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 2: the show, she the boss. I don't run nothing. My

1041
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 2: daughter is the boss. No one told me when you

1042
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 2: have a daughter, it's different that you have a CEO

1043
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 2: that you really raising the little ceo like telling you

1044
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 2: what to do? You are who said you go there?

1045
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 2: It's the best.

1046
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: I love it it is. And you know I told

1047
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: my kids, I said our dynamic won't ever change. That's right.

1048
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: I'm always gonna be dead. You're always gonna be the child.

1049
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 2: That's right, no matter how old you get, no.

1050
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: Matter how old you get, stay on that level. Don't

1051
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: ever think we see out of eye. We no, no,

1052
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: we not no, we life forever.

1053
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 2: You'll never have the experience in life we ever had

1054
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 2: right because we made it that way that you won't

1055
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 2: have to ride right.

1056
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: Just respect and you know, as as the kids got,

1057
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 1: my kids got older, they have it under they're grown

1058
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: now and I'm a grandfather. My son has too, has

1059
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: a boy or girl, and he's starting to see like,

1060
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:24,760
Speaker 1: damn man, rough, I got a I got a mortgage,

1061
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: I got a car, note, I got daycare. Man. My

1062
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: dad handled it. Yeah, yeah, no, your dad didn't handle

1063
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: with ease. You just didn't see how hard your dad had. Yeah.

1064
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 2: One thing I learned though having a daughter. We assholes

1065
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 2: to our sons. Yeah, like we rough little boy before

1066
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 2: back get up crying there you bit it baby before?

1067
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: Ah, come here, baby, come on, how is it? It's okay?

1068
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: I realized, well, how's her?

1069
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 2: Hus? Like? Wow, I was fout of my son. Got

1070
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 2: to invite them over?

1071
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: What do you, what do you think that some of

1072
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 1: the best advice that you've given your kids thus far

1073
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: to my son?

1074
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,439
Speaker 2: Like my daughter, she's only six, I can't really give

1075
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 2: her that she ain't paying attention to She only want

1076
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 2: to hear about Blueie right now. Tell me nothing but

1077
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 2: my son. I feel like to any young man growing up,

1078
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 2: the three things in life you don't play with a

1079
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 2: man family, money, or his livelihood. You just like you

1080
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 2: just stay clear of those three things and you got

1081
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 2: a clear path in life. You don't play with a

1082
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: person's love, his money, or just play with a situation

1083
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 2: that he takes serious. I feel like you you'll breech

1084
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 2: through life really easy. A lot of these kids don't

1085
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 2: know that they getting money, problems with people, messing with

1086
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 2: other people, girls or wives, and things go crazy, like

1087
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 2: a man will kill you for his family.

1088
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: You have people play too much, now, that's right. We

1089
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: grew up at a time people didn't play like that.

1090
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: There wasn't no pranking. You see all this pranking somebody

1091
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: coming down to escalating. They touch They girl, bro, what

1092
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: you're trying to do? You're trying to squaw said bro.

1093
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:55,439
Speaker 2: Bro.

1094
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: Everybody don't play the same. No, they don't man.

1095
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 2: Remember I'm from Brooklyn where you died for a stare

1096
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 2: back of the day you look at somebody to what

1097
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 2: you looking at? Yah, and it was on like so

1098
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 2: touch the hand of your girl. Oh my Jesus Christ,

1099
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 2: you must want to meet the malticiit.

1100
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:14,439
Speaker 1: Ye, you know? And I tell people, what is joke

1101
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: to you is deaf to somebody. That's right.

1102
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 2: Everybody ain't playing. Everybody don't play the same. No, And

1103
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 2: that's why I told my son, don't don't be playing

1104
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 2: with people.

1105
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 1: Nah. Looking back on your career, if there's one thing

1106
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: that you could do differently, what would it be? Not

1107
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: be so focused on my friends?

1108
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 2: Felt like I was one of those guys who felt

1109
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 2: like this is forever, my crew, we forever. I need

1110
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 2: my boys, my guys. And then I look back, now,

1111
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 2: ain't not one of them there no more. It's like

1112
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 2: all the guys will start where you'll at. But you know,

1113
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 2: when people see the roller coaster going up, they with you,

1114
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 2: and it's going down.

1115
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: They jump start to go back in. They try to

1116
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: get back on.

1117
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 2: And now we got the new crew, the people who

1118
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 2: really work and who aren't they spot you know what

1119
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 2: I'm saying so that's what I would say, not to

1120
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 2: put so much focus and love on my crew. Man.

1121
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 2: I feel like I focused on them more, their happiness

1122
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 2: more than mine.

1123
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 1: You realize now loydy was probably a one way street.

1124
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 2: Definitely, definitely not everybody look at loyalty the same way

1125
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 2: as you do. Like just because I'm loyal to a person,

1126
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 2: don't mean he got to be loyal to me, Like

1127
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 2: you know, it's certain things I do in life that

1128
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 2: Jay will be like, damn, I ain't know you did that,

1129
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 2: but it's certain things he did, like I wouldn't know

1130
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 2: he did that, Like I ain't get the call we

1131
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 2: was dead, and to be for Nas, I just show

1132
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 2: up to the show Nas there like oh shit, Like

1133
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But it's still brotherly love

1134
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 2: where I know his intent behind it, in malice and

1135
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 2: intention behind it, you know what I mean. So you

1136
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 2: have to know that part of friendship and understand where

1137
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,919
Speaker 2: each other stand. And I feel like when you young,

1138
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 2: like I got that understand with Jay because he's older

1139
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 2: and he was able to talk to me, teach me

1140
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 2: certain things of growing growing up as we grew. But

1141
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 2: when you equally with somebody from no one is going

1142
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 2: to respect one with more authority. And you know a

1143
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 2: lot of people don't. They look at you like just

1144
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 2: cause you famous, don't make you My balls will make

1145
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 2: you bigger than me.

1146
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: And they'd be like, what, Sam, I'm just telling you something, right,

1147
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: fain't never got nothing to do with this. I'm trying

1148
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: to give you some advice that you probably haven't gotten exactly.

1149
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 2: And you know, egos, like I said, egos, man, pride

1150
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 2: will will destroy a relationship faster than the fire.

1151
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: Wow, bleak, thanks for coming by. Anything you want to

1152
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: promote while you're here. A Man albumah, whatever.

1153
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 2: Album in stores right now, Apartment three D. Make sure

1154
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 2: you cop that if you smoke that weed, make sure

1155
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 2: you come get your mind right with my right exotics. No,

1156
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 2: we got du say and if you have out here

1157
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 2: in Vegas, man, we got an Italian restaurant Roma Kitchen,

1158
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 2: and we just opened up a bar called Tuskin Patio

1159
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 2: Bar and.

1160
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: Grill pull up Memphis. Bleak, my god, much.

1161
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 2: Loud man, Thank you, bro.

1162
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: Love all my.

1163
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 3: Life, running, all my life sacrifice, I too play the

1164
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 3: price and want to slice, got to brow the dice.

1165
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: That's why all my life I've been grinding all my.

1166
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 3: Life, all my life, and grinding all my life sacrifice.

1167
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 3: I too play the price and want a slice.

1168
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: Got to brow the dice.

1169
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,919
Speaker 3: Wa all my life, I've been grinding all my life.

1170
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,399
Speaker 1: Mm hmm