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Speaker 1: There's so much talk about preseason post Well, the A

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Speaker 1: the A C C. Now, why are all these people

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Speaker 1: a person who believes in preseason polls, but guess what,

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Speaker 1: the Pack twelve better get the respect that it deserves.

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Speaker 1: I'm George Rice Stir with Ralph Amsden, and this is

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Speaker 1: the Pack twelve apostles. Ralph, what's up with the A

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Speaker 1: P Pole? Man? I mean, you had so many people

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Speaker 1: Even though I'm ade, I'm a preseason poll truther, Like

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Speaker 1: I do not believe in these preseason polls because they

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Speaker 1: affect the regular season and how teams are viewed. Just

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Speaker 1: like last year you had L s U. They had

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Speaker 1: oh two top ten wins against Miami and Auburn, and

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Speaker 1: neither team ended up ranked, but it affected the whole

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Speaker 1: playoff rankings. And now I'm looking at this and I'm saying, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we got Oregon, Washington, Utah, Washington State, and Stanford all

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Speaker 1: I'm like the conference is positioned in the preseason at

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Speaker 1: least to make a run at a national championship. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The biggest flaw in the whole polling system is how

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Speaker 1: much impact a preseason pole has on the ultimate outcome

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Speaker 1: of the college football season. And when you look at

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Speaker 1: this list and say, all right, well, if any of

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Speaker 1: these packed twelve teams gets to ten eleven wins, especially

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Speaker 1: the ones that are initially ranked in the top twenty five,

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Speaker 1: that could be really really good for the conference. Now

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Speaker 1: you just have to ask yourself is that possible? And

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Speaker 1: then on the other side, because you can make anything

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Speaker 1: into anything that you want, there's no pack twelve teams

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Speaker 1: especially when you you look at like Texas being number ten,

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Speaker 1: and I kind of feel like a couple of these

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Speaker 1: to back four win seasons, and I feel like if

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Speaker 1: you line Nebraska up against USC, which by the way,

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Speaker 1: USC got one vote, one vote. There were only two

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Speaker 1: teams that received only one vote as far as the

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Speaker 1: you lined USC up against Nebraska fifty times, USC has

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Speaker 1: winning forty of those, I one agree with that, dude,

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Speaker 1: I agree with it. And last year there were like

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Speaker 1: so many instances, Like last year you had Wisconsin. They

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Speaker 1: four pole, Wisconsin was two in one, ranked number eighteen

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Speaker 1: They were two and one and b y U was

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Speaker 1: still unranked. How does that make sense? Like, my my

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Speaker 1: brain does not comprehend how people don't see how this

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Speaker 1: manipulates the schedule. I mean it it is. It's terrible.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's great because we like to compare things.

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Speaker 1: We need these things as fans. But when you look

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Speaker 1: the college football playoff. It's scary, dude, Like it is

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Speaker 1: very very scary. Well, hey, I respect Army West Points

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Speaker 1: But if you look at this AP preseason poll that

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Speaker 1: at their schedule like they've got Michigan. Other than that,

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Speaker 1: these are all probably winnable games for Army if they

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Speaker 1: That's you know. So for all the people who put

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Speaker 1: Let's say, let's say because and you have to think

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Speaker 1: Alabama won twenty nine and nothing but l s you

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Speaker 1: media hype, your media partners and all of that stuff

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Speaker 1: the schedule is built for chaos. The schedules built for that.

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Speaker 1: So if you have these SEC teams and then they

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Speaker 1: pointed out by the people who are who follow me

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Speaker 1: it used to be back when you played um. But

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Speaker 1: but this week's edition of the Twelve, we're actually gonna

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Speaker 1: count down the top twelve players that will have the

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Speaker 1: biggest impact on their teams and the conference in the

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen season. Are you ready, George, I'm ready to go. Man,

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Speaker 1: I'm ready to go. So look, if you guys are

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Speaker 1: upset about it, don't feel bad. You can send us

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Speaker 1: an email I'm mad at Unafraid Show dot com. We

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Speaker 1: Ralph Ampstead. And I gotta say that's it's probably the

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Speaker 1: most genius email address of all time because you have

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Speaker 1: to admit that you've got your feelings hurt you can

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Speaker 1: it's probably my favorite email address of all time. I'm

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Speaker 1: mad at on Afraid show dot com. Hey tell them,

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Speaker 1: tell them about you, mad Son. So you already know

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Speaker 1: when you get the email that that is gonna be hostile.

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Speaker 1: So when I'm reading them, or when you're reading them,

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Speaker 1: when whoever is um is filtering through them, you're saying,

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Speaker 1: oh well, already, I already expect there to be hostility

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Speaker 1: in this. So it allows you to deal with it

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Speaker 1: in a little more positive Man. Do you do do

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Speaker 1: you go through breathing exercises before you click that inbox open?

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no. I get excited about it.

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Speaker 1: I get excited with people. The more fanatical the better,

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Speaker 1: because I asked that of Pack twelve fans, I want

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Speaker 1: them to be fanatics. That's right, that's right. So I

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Speaker 1: think we're gonna John, I'm gonna jump right into it.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take you through my number twelve all the

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Speaker 1: way down to my number six that you do the same,

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Speaker 1: and then we'll hash some of this out before we

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Speaker 1: count down our top fives. That sound good, perfect, all right? So, uh,

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Speaker 1: coming in at number twelve, the twelve most important player

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Speaker 1: in the pack twelve to their team and the conference

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Speaker 1: as a whole. I've got Utah running back Zach Moss

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Speaker 1: at number eleven. I have got sophomore linebacker Arizona States

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Speaker 1: Merlin Robertson coming in at number ten, Stanford quarterback k J.

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Speaker 1: Costello at number nine. I got my first repeat from

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Speaker 1: Arizona State University. I got running back Eno Benjamin at

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Speaker 1: number eight. U c l A running back Joshua Kelly,

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Speaker 1: and then at number seven because as of right now,

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Speaker 1: we don't actually know who's gonna be taking snaps for

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Speaker 1: Washington State. But what we do know about a Mike

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Speaker 1: Leach offense is that the quarterback is the most important

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Speaker 1: person on the field at all times. I've got the

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Speaker 1: brood Gage Go Brud and Anthony Gordon just sort of tied,

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Speaker 1: and it really depends on the decision that gets made there.

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Speaker 1: But I think that either player, it doesn't matter, they'll

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Speaker 1: they'll be the seventh most important to their team and

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Speaker 1: the conference. And coming in at number six, I've got

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Speaker 1: Georgia transfer coming home to the state of Washington, Washington

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Speaker 1: quarterback Jacob Eason. Okay, that's that's not a bad list.

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Speaker 1: That is not a bad list. Row the way I

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Speaker 1: kind of constructed mine, I constructed mine. Obviously, this is

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Speaker 1: the this is the twelve and the twelve most important

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Speaker 1: pack twelve players this season. And I'm looking at I'm saying, Okay,

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Speaker 1: what does important means to me? Like these are people

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Speaker 1: who are important to their team in terms of the

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Speaker 1: amount of wins and losses that they affect first and foremost.

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Speaker 1: And then the second thing is how big there impact

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Speaker 1: is on how the conference is viewed overall nationally and

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Speaker 1: what happens with who wins the conference and who can

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Speaker 1: potentially make the College Football PLAYERFFS. So that's how I

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Speaker 1: made my list number twelve. I know you're gonna hate this.

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Speaker 1: Ralph Laviska channat he He may be the best player

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Speaker 1: in the conference this year, However, his impact on winning

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Speaker 1: and he may be a Heisman Trophy finalists quite possibly,

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Speaker 1: but his impact on winning and losing it's not gonna

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Speaker 1: be and what happens in the conference is not gonna

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Speaker 1: be a major thing so I got him at number twelve.

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Speaker 1: I got your guy, your complex guy. Number eleven, Khalil

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Speaker 1: take number ten, I have I like you in my

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Speaker 1: in six to twelve, I have the Washington State quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: either Gordon or Gerbroad whoever wins the job, they gotta

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Speaker 1: do it. Number nine, I have Cow's entire secondary Hicks

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Speaker 1: buying him Hawkins Davis, who is my favorite that that

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Speaker 1: that number twenty seven way he comes down smacking people.

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Speaker 1: I love it, and they are gonna have a huge

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Speaker 1: impact on winning and losing this year. Number eight K J.

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Speaker 1: Costello quarterback at Stanford from Utah defensive lineman Lecky photo.

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Speaker 1: And number six I got quarterback from USC J. T. Daniels.

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Speaker 1: How can you hate my list? Ralph? I think I

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Speaker 1: think that you and I it's just it comes down

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Speaker 1: to our connotation of what's what's in court because you

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Speaker 1: named probably three guys. Yeah, I think you name three

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Speaker 1: guys that I have in my top five, in the

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Speaker 1: bottom half of of your list, and so I think

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Speaker 1: it just really comes down to what it is you

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Speaker 1: think is important. Um, the labisca chanal thing is the

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Speaker 1: biggest one. I mean, can you offhand off the top

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Speaker 1: of your head. Can you tell me Pitts record when

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Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald was a redshirt sophomore out there and was

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Speaker 1: a Heisman finalist, or can you just remember that he

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Speaker 1: was at pitt I think ultimately time will tell what

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Speaker 1: the legacy of Labisca Sheanal is, and I don't think

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Speaker 1: it will have much to do with Colorado's record. I

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Speaker 1: think that people will remember that one of the best

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Speaker 1: athletes in all of college football was at Colorado and

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Speaker 1: that's all they'll think about. And so, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: and then then there's a couple others. Obviously you know

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Speaker 1: that the Khalil Tate thing. Um, well, I mean without

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Speaker 1: and if you take either one of those players off

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Speaker 1: their team, does that team even win three games? I mean,

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Speaker 1: either one of those teams might only win three games

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Speaker 1: with those guys on the team. So um, I don't

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Speaker 1: hate it because we got a lot of the same people.

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Speaker 1: It's just the order that seems flipped. What about my side,

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Speaker 1: If you're okay with me putting a bunch of running backs,

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Speaker 1: and I think we agreed on kJ Costello at least Rolph,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't hate your list. However, all these

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Speaker 1: running backs on there when you have quarterbacks who are

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Speaker 1: much more important. And when you look at Colorado, for example,

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Speaker 1: you're in love with Labiska Chandal. I love his talent. However,

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Speaker 1: Stephen Montes is more important, like he's gonna have a

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Speaker 1: bigger impact on winning and losing it you look at Arizona, J. J. Taylor,

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Speaker 1: Yes he's important, but Khalil Tate's legs are more important.

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Speaker 1: We saw that last year at Washington State. Their quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: are more important than Max Borgi at uh Cow. Their

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Speaker 1: secondary just so happens to be the best thing in

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Speaker 1: the back twelve on defense, their entire secondary and Laky

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Speaker 1: Poet from Utah, he's gonna be a big catalyst and

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Speaker 1: winning and losing because you toss, defense is gonna have

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Speaker 1: to carry them. And these quarterbacks they do get a

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Speaker 1: ton more credit than they deserve. However, particularly in the

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Speaker 1: back twelve conference where throwing the football is at a

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Speaker 1: premium all the time, you have to that position just

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Speaker 1: has to play well. And that's why in mine in

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Speaker 1: my six to twelve, I had J. T. Daniels, kJ

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Speaker 1: Costello and Khalil Tate all in the well and the

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Speaker 1: Washington State quarterbacks. That's four. That's four already in there.

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Speaker 1: Who do you have in your top five? Bro? Well,

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Speaker 1: let's start out with number five. And I think people

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Speaker 1: are gonna get sick of me saying this, but I

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Speaker 1: do have cool tape. Stop stop, bro, stop, you you

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Speaker 1: have a you have a man crush on Khalil tape.

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Speaker 1: Here's why he's important to the conference though, because he

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Speaker 1: needs to be redeemed for being on the covers of

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Speaker 1: all those magazines last year as a heisman hopeful, like

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Speaker 1: the Pac twelve conference needs him to come back and

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Speaker 1: justify some of that hype. It doesn't Ralph, Ralph if

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Speaker 1: if Arizona, if Arizona messes a round and wins seven games,

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Speaker 1: it is going to wreck the Pac twelve South. If

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Speaker 1: Arizona wins seven games, if, I mean, he could have

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Speaker 1: a great season, But the reality is Arizona is a

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Speaker 1: five win team probably this year, So any additional wins

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Speaker 1: are going to cripple the conference in terms of if

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Speaker 1: they mess around and beat U C, L, a USC

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Speaker 1: or Utah, that's gonna be an a disaster. So then

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Speaker 1: I guess, I guess that he's important in another way though,

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Speaker 1: it's important for him to not fulfill his potential. But no,

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Speaker 1: so look at it this way. Last year, in eleven games,

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Speaker 1: he and so I mean, if he's healthy, that's a

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Speaker 1: different story. Last year in eleven games, he threw for yards, right,

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Speaker 1: so you extrapple at that over fourteen game season, he's

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Speaker 1: over a three thousand yard passers. The year before that

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Speaker 1: in eleven games because he didn't take over as the

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Speaker 1: starter until you know, a few games into the season,

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Speaker 1: he rushed for fourteen hundred yards. If he could find

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Speaker 1: a way to combine those two things, if you could

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Speaker 1: have a three thousand yard pass or fifteen hundred yard

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Speaker 1: rusher in the Pac twelve, everybody will be talking about that.

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Speaker 1: If if finans was pots and pans, the whole world

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Speaker 1: be a kitchen. Ralph, I'm just saying, he's done a

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Speaker 1: little bit of boat. He's done a little bit of both.

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Speaker 1: If if he can put a boat together, it would

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Speaker 1: be good for the PAT twelve for Khalil take to

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Speaker 1: pay back that debt that he owes from all of

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Speaker 1: that hype following him around and him not living up

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Speaker 1: to it last year. So that's why he's my number five. No, Nope,

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Speaker 1: I get i't agree with you. Ralph. He needs to

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Speaker 1: just have a very good season. I want him personally

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Speaker 1: to do well, not maybe as well as your man crush,

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Speaker 1: but Arizona needs They're like four, four to five win level.

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Speaker 1: My number five is Zack Moss, Utah running back. You

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Speaker 1: really think it matters all that much who plays running

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Speaker 1: back for Utah? Yes? You don't think that's a plug

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Speaker 1: in play system? I okay a little bit on some level. However,

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Speaker 1: when you have a special back, then you have a

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Speaker 1: special back as opposed to just a good running back.

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Speaker 1: Zack Moss can play all three downs. He's physical, he

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Speaker 1: can catch the ball, he does all the things like

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Speaker 1: he's probably the best running back in the conference right

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Speaker 1: right now. Controversial, controversial. Who's gonna argue with that? Who

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Speaker 1: are you? Who are you doing when you've got six

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Speaker 1: guys that went over a thousand yards? I think it's

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Speaker 1: I think it's fair, especially win. And I know, I'm

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Speaker 1: know he was hurt. I know he was hurt. But

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Speaker 1: when he was at the bottom of that six as

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Speaker 1: far as total yardage, okay, he did so. I'll give

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Speaker 1: you that. Say a lot of things, but exactly, and

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Speaker 1: he was dominant. He's a top back and their quarterback,

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Speaker 1: Tyler And the reason why I have him high is

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Speaker 1: because his production, ability to break tackles, make small plays

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Speaker 1: into big plays is going to be the difference in

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Speaker 1: Tyler Huntley Huntley, Utah's quarterback being able to uh run,

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Speaker 1: run their system a lot of the r P O

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Speaker 1: s and and making some easy throwing windows for him

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Speaker 1: because he's not an elite passer. He's a decent pastor,

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Speaker 1: but he's not an elite passer. He's somewhere in between.

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Speaker 1: He's above Khalil Tape but below you know, the upper

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Speaker 1: tier quarterbacks in the in the packs. Well, so you

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Speaker 1: know he's somewhere between. You know, I would say K J. Costello,

641
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: Jacob Easton, Justin Herbert, and then you go down a

642
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: few rungs and then you get him, and then you

643
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: go down a few runs and then you get Khalttle

644
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: take and I think where where. The reason I had

645
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: him at number twelve is because I genuinely believe that

646
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: if they got into a jam and T. J. Green

647
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: or one of the other backups out there had to

648
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: take over, they probably rushed for a hundred and twenty yards. Also, wow, wow, Wow,

649
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: Who's who's your number four, Ralph, My number four is J. T. Daniels,

650
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 1: USC quarterback. Uh, he's got all the weapons in the world.

651
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,720
Speaker 1: For as much of a beating as he took last year,

652
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: um for for not taking USC to the Promised Land

653
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: as a true freshman who was actually supposed to be

654
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:56,240
Speaker 1: a high school senior. Yards passing and fourteen touchdowns isn't

655
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: the worst thing in the world. USC has actually played

656
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: a few true freshman at quarterback, and every single time

657
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: they've done it, they haven't had a ton of success.

658
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 1: I think Kessler played a little bit. I think Berkley

659
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 1: played as a true freshman. You know, they've they've had

660
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: guys do this before, and none of them ever came

661
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: out and won the Pack twelve. Not well, well you

662
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 1: you you also had Liner and Carson Palmer who started

663
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: as freshman too, so so none of them but none

664
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: of Yeah, but not a single true freshman or even

665
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: read shirt freshman has ever gone out and won the

666
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 1: Pack twelve or Pac ten for USC, and so this

667
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,439
Speaker 1: kind of fits the mold. If he makes that year

668
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,919
Speaker 1: to jump, they could compete. I absolutely believe that because

669
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: the offensive line is serviceable, the wide receivers are elite

670
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: the running backs are good enough, and he showed that

671
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: he could move the ball last year. I was there

672
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,240
Speaker 1: with the Arizona State game where he sort of started

673
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: to figure things out. Towards the end of it. He

674
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: finished people. People are not talking about the fact that

675
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 1: he finished the season with three hundred thirty seven yards

676
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: against U c. L A three fifty yards against Notre Dame,

677
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: both in the loss. But at the same time, if

678
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: the defense can stop somebody, then I think that he

679
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: can do enough to get him some wins. Yeah, and

680
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: I resent your statement about him supposed to be a

681
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 1: high school senior last year. No, No, he was. He

682
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: was supposed to be a college sophomore last year. Let

683
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 1: let alone a freshman. He was a double hole back

684
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: man um. But but I did. I did have him

685
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: close to you on the list. I had him six.

686
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: You you had him four. So Ralph, you're you're you're

687
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: getting better at this twelve thing I'm telling you, and

688
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 1: I have to go back and correct myself. What I

689
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 1: meant to say when I saw him against Airs on

690
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: the state is I believe that USC wins that game

691
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: if he would have played, is what I meant to say. Yeah,

692
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 1: he he has a chance. I mean that that lets

693
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: you know your statements about the were so true that

694
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: about J. T. Daniels that it makes it even more

695
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 1: absurd when you were talking about you uh USC's running

696
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: back corps, their wide receivers, that this team got one

697
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: vote in the a P Pole Armies ranked higher Appalachian State.

698
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: This is tom foolery, dude. Um I got number four

699
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: Dorrian Thompson Robinson because I believe he will likely start

700
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: for u c l A. And if not start, and

701
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: if not start the entire season, he will start the

702
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: beginning of the season, which is crucial for U c

703
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: l A. Because they started out with Cincinnati, who they

704
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: lost to last year. Then at Cincinnati, then they play

705
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: San Diego State, who's playing this this year. I think

706
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: they're playing a three three five defense, which is hard

707
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: for young quarterbacks. And he's been around a little bit.

708
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: You haven't heard his dad talking, so you know he's

709
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: got a chance this year. And then then they played

710
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: and then they played Oakland Homa at home, which they

711
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: need to have a good showing. They got absolutely demolished

712
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 1: last year. So he's gonna end. He's so high on

713
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: my list because, like I said, My list is about

714
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 1: the importance the impact that this player could have on

715
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: the conference and on winning and losing and how the

716
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: conferences positioned. And the fact that I have u c

717
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: l A winning the South means that he's very important.

718
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: I think. See, I can't I can't have them going

719
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: one in eleven. And as a reminder to our listeners,

720
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: I have u c l A going one of eleven

721
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 1: this year. I can't have them going one of eleven

722
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: and have him included anywhere. Who do you have them beating?

723
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: I might they should maybe be on twelve. Maybe I

724
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: should go back and take that win. Hold. So you

725
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: have U c l A losing to since Cincinnati, San

726
00:43:54,680 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: Diego State, Oklahoma, at Washington State, at Arizona they might

727
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: win that game. They might win that Oregon State, maybe Stanford,

728
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: definitely Arizona State. They're not winning that game. That's their

729
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: homecoming game too, Colorado Colorado. It could have is that?

730
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: I mean that's a game that they got that that

731
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: Thompson Robinson went seventeen for thirty five and last year.

732
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: So probably not at Utah, definitely at USC No, at

733
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: cow I'm sorry, at caw Uh they did you know

734
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: what they did beat Cal last year on the road.

735
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: I think Cal's gonna come back and get you. Are

736
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: you are mad man? You are a mad man. I

737
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: got you a beating Sandy, beating, beating Cincinnati, beating San

738
00:44:54,560 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: Diego State, beating Arizona beating Oregon State, beating Arizona State, Colorado,

739
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: and cow dude. I have this as a minimum seven

740
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: win team, minimum minimum. And you got him at one

741
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: and eleven, Man, Jim Kelly should fight you. Who do

742
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 1: you have at number three? My number three is Lucky

743
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: Foe two for the simple reason that I think that

744
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: this is probably a championship defensive line UM, but if

745
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: you take him away, it's just a pretty good defensive line.

746
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: I think he's the key piece if you look at

747
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: if you look at any UM defensive line, Super Bowl,

748
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: or you know, or playing for a BCS championship, they

749
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: always have that one guy who is transcendent, who who

750
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: completely changes the game plan to the team they're playing against.

751
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: For for me, that's him. Without him, I would not

752
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 1: say that Utah has any opportunity to compete for a

753
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 1: Pack twelve title. To me, he's the centerpiece of their Yeah,

754
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: he's the centerpiece of a of a team, of the

755
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 1: defensive line, of a bunch of guys that I refuse

756
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: to try to pronounce their their names without a pronunciation. Guy.

757
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 1: I mean it is just I mean, there's so many

758
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: AI's and us and eyes. I just need to you know,

759
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: I don't want to screw people's names up. Um. Number

760
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: three on my list, I got Justin Herbert the He

761
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:29,240
Speaker 1: is the He's got to have a big season because

762
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,439
Speaker 1: the most important game of the whole conference this year

763
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: is the non conference game organ versus Auburn. Like we

764
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 1: talked about already, Herbert's got to play well. He's gotta

765
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: be accurate, He's got to be a leader. And this

766
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: is a team that is going to lead the way

767
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: in the conference. I have them winning the North and

768
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: then winning the Pack twelve. So this is a team

769
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,240
Speaker 1: that can make the College Football Playoff and for them

770
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 1: to do well, he's got to play well. I mean

771
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: there there there's no two ways about it. Part of

772
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 1: that is on the of coordinator Marcus Arroyo for the

773
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: end of last season, but some of it also is

774
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: on Justin. He suffers from the same thing that Marcus

775
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: Mariota did, and hopefully this is the same, he'll be

776
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 1: able to make a jump like Mariota did in terms

777
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: of the vocal leadership. Their leaders in terms of how

778
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: hard they work, you know, their attention to detail, but

779
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: when it comes to vocalizing, some of that he had

780
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: to grow in that way and that's why I liked

781
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: him coming back this year. Okay, so you're probably not

782
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: gonna like my number two since we've already talked about it,

783
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 1: but I have labiscution. How as the number two most important?

784
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: What is what is he important to Nashal? I think

785
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,439
Speaker 1: that I think that national attention is important. I'm gonna

786
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: be a little hypocritical on this because I think the

787
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: exposure is often or overrated because who is it that

788
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: you're being exposed to and why is it important? But

789
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: I think that on a national scale, with with if

790
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: you align the PAC twelve goals of trying to get

791
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: more eyeballs from people all over the country. You don't

792
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: have a reason to watch most of these games if

793
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,439
Speaker 1: you live somewhere else unless you know that a top

794
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: ten player is going to be on the field, and

795
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: Levisco Chanel is arguably maybe the conference is only guy

796
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 1: that you could argue as a top ten player in

797
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: the country. Um and and so you know, when I

798
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,240
Speaker 1: look at what he accomplished last year in just nine games, eighties,

799
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,720
Speaker 1: six catches for over a thousand yards, and he rushed

800
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 1: for five touchdowns as well. Like he's must watch TV.

801
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 1: I will if if Colorado is on offense, and I

802
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: could watch that or something else. And I know that

803
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: he's gonna be on the field. I'm gonna tune over

804
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: to see what it is that he's doing. He's just

805
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: I think he's got over to the conference. I agree

806
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: with that, except for the fact that Colorado is not

807
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 1: going to be that good, so they're not gonna be

808
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: like on TV as much. This is not a situation

809
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: and it's unfortunate for or should not because he won't

810
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: get the credit that he truly deserves. This is not

811
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 1: a situation like rocket Ishmael at Notre Dame. And by

812
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: the way, Ralph, I told you the other day, I

813
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: was at an NFL Players Association event. We had a

814
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: couple's retreat, you know, thirty family thirty couples there, and

815
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 1: we're sitting at the table eating. I'm sitting at the

816
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,879
Speaker 1: table eating with people I don't know at that point

817
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: in time, and the guy says, I hear I overhear

818
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:31,959
Speaker 1: him talking to somebody on the other side of the tables.

819
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, my name is Rocket blah blah blah. And

820
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: I'm thinking Rocket. Hold up, I don't know too many rockets.

821
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 1: And I put it together. I was like, oh my god,

822
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: I'm sitting across the table from Rocket Ishraael. I fanned out.

823
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 1: I fanned out for just a second. I had a

824
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: little I had a little Michael Jackson nineteen eighties faint session.

825
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: But but internally I fainted on On the inside, I

826
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, it's rocket Instagram, It's racket Israel,

827
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 1: draget Israel. And then I was like, but I kept

828
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: it cool on the outside, I think, and so, but

829
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: do you do you know how Notre Dame did when

830
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: he was a junior senior. We don't we when when

831
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:14,919
Speaker 1: it at the end of the day, they had won

832
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: the national championship with that ding, he won the Heisman Trophy. True,

833
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,439
Speaker 1: and what I think that Chanel is probably the only

834
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 1: person that gives them a chance to the conference, a

835
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: chance to have somebody in that conversation channel. Had fifty

836
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,479
Speaker 1: one catches in his first five games. I think of

837
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,280
Speaker 1: the of the eleven touchdowns that he scored on the season,

838
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: nine of them came in the first five games before

839
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: he got banged. Okay, so rocket Ishmael he was the

840
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: he they won the national championship in What night, yep, yep,

841
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: they won the national championship in nineteen eight. He became

842
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: the He came to prominence for Notre Dame when they

843
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: won that national championship. So and then he won the

844
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy as well. So this is all good and so,

845
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: but that's what I'm saying. So if if nisation goes off,

846
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 1: maybe we'll have our kids geeking out at his table

847
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: or us speaking out at his table twenty years from now.

848
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 1: I just say, I I just think he's important. Obviously,

849
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 1: Colorado is not gonna be competing for any championships or

850
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: anything like that, but we do have to remember they

851
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: opened up the season when he was healthy, they went

852
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: five and oh and after he wasn't they never won again.

853
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: And so that I think that highlights to me how

854
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: important he is not only to the team's success but

855
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 1: to the conference. Just getting some publicity as all. Oh

856
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: I lied, Ralph, he did not win the national he

857
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 1: did not win the Heisman Trophy. He finished second. He

858
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: finished second to tie Debtmer Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. See

859
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,320
Speaker 1: that's like when they didn't give it to Larry fitz Herold.

860
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 1: Also see then, so we need we need Levis to

861
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 1: be another in the long line, or we need him

862
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: to break the tradition of wide receivers because didn't Boss finished.

863
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 1: It will not it will not happen. Yeah see we

864
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: need That's why we need him to break that long

865
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: standing tradition of the best player in college football being

866
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 1: a runner up, just because they cata that regularly happens.

867
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: Who's your number two? That was my number two? That

868
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: was my number two. My number two is the Oregon

869
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: offensive line and Panay Soul in particular last year. Last year,

870
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 1: Orion was running the ball, scoring a bunch of points.

871
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: All of that, Paul gets hurt, their true freshman left tackle,

872
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 1: Like how many times do you have a true freshman

873
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: left tackle and people are saying, this kid is a

874
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: top ten pick and he's got to play two more years.

875
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 1: The kid is ridiculous. He's the Trevor Lawrence of tackles.

876
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: If Trevor Lawrence played ankle, it would be penas and

877
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,240
Speaker 1: after he got hurt. I think he broke his ankle,

878
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: broke his foot something like like that. He went out

879
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: and Oregon couldn't. Their office just fell apart. And I

880
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: find it hard to just blame it on one one guy.

881
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: But their offensive line this year is the most experienced

882
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: group and all the college football. They have a bunch

883
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 1: of draft picks this year on the opposite line, plus Pena,

884
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: so who's a sophomore. This group has to be elite.

885
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: Why Oregon's opposite line is elite, Washington's is supposed to

886
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 1: be elite. And these are the two teams that are

887
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: going to be driving the bust for the PAC twelfth

888
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: conference this year, so you need them to step up

889
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 1: and be good. That's why they're my number two. All right,

890
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: So let's get down into our top player. I think

891
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: that it's Mine's probably pretty obvious, uh, since you already

892
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 1: talked about him and I haven't named him yet, But

893
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: it's justin herbert Um. This conference does not have a

894
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 1: great history of people choosing to come back for an

895
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: extra year and going out and having a bunch of success,

896
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: not just personal success, but team success as well. I

897
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: think that the probably the best example of this would

898
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 1: be Jake Browning, who there were a lot of whispers about.

899
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: But I think people who watched Pat twelve football up

900
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: close knew that there were enough flaws in his game

901
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,439
Speaker 1: that that he wasn't going to come back and earn

902
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 1: a first round you know status if he came back

903
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: as a senior. He did it anyway. The team had success,

904
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 1: but it really exposed a lot of flaws in him

905
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: as a football player. And I won't say that he

906
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 1: should regret coming back, but I just don't want to

907
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: see Justin Herbert go down that same track. I think

908
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 1: there's a lot of pressure on Justin Herbert to take

909
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: this Oregon squad and and have them try to reach

910
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: their full potential. You want it to be more like

911
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:08,720
Speaker 1: Matt Leiner's two thousand five than Jake Brownings two thousand eighteen.

912
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:12,240
Speaker 1: Because Matt Liner came back for the two thousand five season,

913
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: I think he only had ballroom dancing as a class,

914
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 1: and then he took U c l A out, you know,

915
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: one thirteen games, and then was on the losing end

916
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 1: of probably the greatest college football game I've ever seen

917
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: in my wife, uh when when he went head to

918
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: head with Vince Young in the National Championship, and so

919
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: I think you you're hoping more for a Matt Liner

920
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 1: track for Justin Herbert than you are, uh Jake Browning

921
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: track for Justin Herbert. But I think I don't think.

922
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: And but to be honest, I don't think Oregon's success

923
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: overall is as dependent on Herbert um as maybe some

924
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: other players, because I do think that they are pretty

925
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 1: loaded at the quarterback position outside of him. But I

926
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: think there's eroding trust in the Pack twelve in general,

927
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 1: and if Justin Herbert doesn't go out there and have

928
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 1: a good year, will just be that much harder for

929
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 1: the Pac twelve to get the trust of the nation

930
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 1: back that our players are any good or can compete

931
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,240
Speaker 1: first for sure. And you know how much negative recruiting

932
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:14,800
Speaker 1: is going on right now from the other conferences. It

933
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: saying oh no, no, no, don't go there, you won't

934
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: you won't be a first round pick. And so now

935
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: these players have to show up and show out and

936
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: then go into the NFL and play well. So I

937
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 1: totally agree with you with Justin Herbert. I could have

938
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: put him at one, but I don't really would have

939
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: feel like a Homer I didn't. I didn't. I don't

940
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 1: really want the the emails that I'm at it unafraid

941
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: show dot com to say, you know the George, the

942
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 1: George is a homer because I am not. I just

943
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 1: keep it one hunted. So who is going I'm trying

944
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: to figure out what I'm missing. I can't figure out

945
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: your number one by just looking at what I have

946
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: written down. My number one is Jacob Eeson. Yes, Jacob Okay,

947
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: I get it. I get it. I got him in,

948
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: I got him at six. So I believe he's important.

949
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 1: But I want to hear why you think he's the

950
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: most important because I my goal and I believe the

951
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: Pack twelve can make the college football playoff this year.

952
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: So a person who has to play well Georgia transfer

953
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: to Washington. Jacob Eeson, I don't know if Washington is

954
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: gonna have the karma that they need because of the

955
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 1: coast and Yankov situation not not signing off on his

956
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: UH immediate eligibility at U c l A. So they

957
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: may end up, you know, car karma may bite them

958
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: in the ass. But at the same time, for the conference,

959
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: Washington comes into the season as the second highest Pack

960
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: twelve team in the a peopole their number thirteam. So

961
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: and with their schedule, They're non conference games are against

962
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: Eastern Washington, Hawaii and at b Y. You they must

963
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: win all those games, and a lot of that is

964
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 1: gonna depend on Jacob Easton because their wide receivers are

965
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: not as I mean, even though they were young last year,

966
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: they aren't great like you got Fuller there. Their tight

967
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: ends are good, you got um Hunter. Bryan is obviously

968
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 1: really good, and but Ty Jones has to play well

969
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: for them at wide receiver as well. And you're just saying,

970
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: all right, all right, A lot of this is gonna

971
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: fall on Jacob Easton's shoulders because Washington for the conference

972
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 1: to to be where it needs to be, Washington either

973
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: needs to go twelve and oh or needs to go

974
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: eleven and one with their only loss to Oregon. And

975
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: that's where I have them, right, I think I have

976
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: them at eleven and one with their only loss. And

977
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: that puts you in a situation to where Jacob Easton

978
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: is the because Washington's defense is always good so and

979
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: Chris Peterson does a wonderful job, so Jacob Easton has

980
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 1: to be the one to get them over the hump

981
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 1: because you need Oregon and Washington to be top ten teams,

982
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: and one of them needs to be undefeated. The other

983
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 1: one only needs to have one loss, and that's how

984
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: you get in the playoffs. That's why you have Herbert

985
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: and Easton in both of our what top well, well,

986
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: Easton's in my top three. You you have Eatn at

987
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: six and Herbert at one, So we both believe that

988
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 1: these guys are crazy important for the conference. It is

989
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 1: time the cast stones, casting stones for the pack twelve

990
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: apostles is you know the the Bible first? Uh ye,

991
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 1: who is without sin? Cast the first stones? So today

992
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 1: Ralph is without sin and he's casting stones on the

993
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: USC program and len Swan what you got, Ralph, Well,

994
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 1: I I got to tell you it's it's I'm probably

995
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: gonna be the only one not casting stones at lin

996
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 1: Swan because everyone else is. Right now, I'm picking up

997
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: the rocks and I'm throwing them back at some of

998
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: the media who want to ask. They want to ask

999
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: lin Swan the same question. You're getting the same question

1000
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 1: over and over and over again. And I get the

1001
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: frustration with lin Swan, right, I I get what the

1002
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 1: expectations for usc R and that they're not meeting them.

1003
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: And any time that there's a gap between your expectations

1004
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: and your reality, that gap it has to be filled.

1005
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 1: And right now it's filled with a bunch of angry people.

1006
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,439
Speaker 1: And so I get it. But at the same time,

1007
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 1: can we not ask if a coach is on the

1008
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: hot seat? Can we not ask how many wins it

1009
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: will take for someone to keep their job? When in

1010
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 1: the history of ever has an athletic director where anybody

1011
01:00:55,600 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 1: responsible for the hiring and firing decisions at any institution,

1012
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: professional or college, ever told the truth to a member

1013
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 1: of the media in a press conference setting, what are

1014
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: you looking for? When you ask that question, He's gonna

1015
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 1: do some Mike Tomlin thing and say the standard is

1016
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: the standard, like and they're just gonna tell you we

1017
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 1: expect to win. They're waiting on. They're waiting on the

1018
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: got you got you? Is what they're what they're waiting on.

1019
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 1: They're waiting on the got you got you? For him

1020
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 1: to say. When they asked Lynn Swan what he thought

1021
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 1: about Clay Hilton how many wins it would take? His

1022
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 1: his answer was I won't go there with that one.

1023
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 1: I think we judge our coaches on a variety of things.

1024
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 1: Certainly we want to win. I want to be at

1025
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 1: the top, but Clay is doing a great job motivating

1026
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 1: and helping these young kids have a predictive, a productive

1027
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 1: three or four years at USC, working towards their college degrees.

1028
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 1: We had nine team players on our team last year

1029
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 1: and they wore a graduation path match, which means they're

1030
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 1: graduating by the end of that semester or have already graduated.

1031
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: So very proud of that. And you want to move

1032
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 1: it forward. So don't just look at it as you

1033
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 1: gotta win eleven games. You gotta go undefeat it. You

1034
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 1: gotta do this. And our goals remained the same. Do

1035
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 1: we want to be at the top, Absolutely, But where

1036
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:25,919
Speaker 1: does that begin. I So the devil's in the details, Ralph,

1037
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 1: the devil is in the details. And I looked at

1038
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 1: this and when you are an athletic director, because remember

1039
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 1: Lynn Swan is on the hot seat himself as athletic

1040
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 1: director because he hired Clay Hilton. Oh, I just want

1041
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 1: to remind people that the Pact twelve champion in two

1042
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: thousand seventeen was USC. I just want to remind people,

1043
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 1: what what what have you done for me lately? Ralph?

1044
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 1: What have you done that? I get that, but just

1045
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 1: just let it happen. If the guy's gonna get fired,

1046
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 1: let it have. How many stories do we have to

1047
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 1: read where we read absolutely nothing and then have to

1048
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 1: parse and read between the lines in order for us

1049
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 1: to get bored with this? You and I talked about

1050
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 1: this all fair. Do you think anybody was talking about

1051
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 1: whether whether Colorado's head coach was on the hot seat

1052
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 1: when they were five and oh last year? Nobody, nobody

1053
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 1: that they did. I didn't start talking about mac Mike

1054
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 1: and Mike McIntyre getting fired until they were like five

1055
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 1: and three. I was like, oh, wow, look at the

1056
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 1: rest of their schedule. They might lose all of these games.

1057
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 1: And if they lose, Wow, that's gonna be atrocious. He's

1058
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 1: gonna be out of there. So but I looked at

1059
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 1: the details. When you are an athletic director and people

1060
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 1: are asking you about your head coach and you start

1061
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 1: at a historically great football frint uh, yes, franchise because

1062
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 1: this is professional sports, even though the kids are still amateurs.

1063
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 1: I believe that you look at when you start pointing

1064
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 1: to oh, we had kids have three to four productive

1065
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 1: years and they all graduated. When you start pointing a

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Speaker 1: graduation instead of wins, that a coach is semi responsible

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Speaker 1: for that, But in reality, his biggest deal is winning

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Speaker 1: and losing. So I don't want to hear anything Lens

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Speaker 1: Juanna is talking about about about wins and losses because

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Speaker 1: a lot I made about graduation rates because in reality,

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Speaker 1: like you said about Mike McIntyre, I have come up

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Speaker 1: with and we'll talk about it even more throughout the season.

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01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 1: Wrote an article on on Afraid show I posted, I

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Speaker 1: refreshed and posted every year about the two steps to

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Speaker 1: firing a coach, because there are two things that need

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01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 1: to be done at the end of every season to

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Speaker 1: know whether you need to fire a coach or not.

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Speaker 1: And these rules apply in every sport in every situation.

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Speaker 1: The first thing is every coach needs to be evaluated

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Speaker 1: at the end of the season, whether you win, defeated

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Speaker 1: o N twelve or you went undefeated twelve. And oh,

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Speaker 1: and you always have to ask yourself one question, can

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Speaker 1: we guaranteed get a coach that will do better then

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Speaker 1: this coach guaranteed? Because and and by that I mean, okay,

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Speaker 1: So let's let's say you're Washington. You love Chris Peterson, right,

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Speaker 1: You love Chris Peterson. He's doing a great job there.

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Speaker 1: You you think he's one of the ten best coaches

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Speaker 1: in college football. But if Nick Saban picks up the

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Speaker 1: phone and says, y'all want to come up to Washington,

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Speaker 1: you'll fire Chris Peterson. Right, Okay, So so that's the

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Speaker 1: first thing. So every coach needs to be evaluated, and

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01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 1: then can you absolutely for sure get somebody better than

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Speaker 1: this guy? And if the answer is no, then you

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Speaker 1: move on to then you don't even worry about question too. Then,

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Speaker 1: But if it's I don't know, then you go to

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Speaker 1: question two, which is how is the hope? Is there

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Speaker 1: a loss of hope? Can this coach go to the

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Speaker 1: living rooms of seventeen, eighteen, nineteen year old kids and

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Speaker 1: sell them on the fact that the future is brighter

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Speaker 1: than the past. And if he can't tell them, and

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Speaker 1: if he can't make them believe that, whatever whether they

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Speaker 1: went undefeated, whether they only won two games, that the

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01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 1: future is brighter and they're like, I don't know, then

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Speaker 1: you need a new head coach, no matter what his

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Speaker 1: record is. That rules When I and when I hear

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Speaker 1: those two rules, I feel like, cool, Let's take those

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Speaker 1: two rules and make them common sense criteria. Common sense criteria,

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Speaker 1: because are you telling me that if a media member

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Speaker 1: had an interview with Washington's athletic director and said, hey,

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Speaker 1: if if and they probably couldn't say it you know

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01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 1: my name, or be tampering or whatever, but they said, hey,

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Speaker 1: if somebody with multiple national championships opened up, would you

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01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 1: consider making a move at head coach? What do you think?

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Speaker 1: First of all, I would take that media member and

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Speaker 1: kick them into the sun. Beside of all, what do

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01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 1: you think the athletic director is gonna say? You think

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01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna tell the truth. Like, if we could just

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01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 1: agree on common sense criteria of every program is going

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Speaker 1: to try to get the best available coach that they

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Speaker 1: can afford, or the best available coach who happens to

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Speaker 1: be friends with the athletic director. Uh. And if we

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01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 1: could just agree that that's probably what's going to happen,

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Speaker 1: then Wenna have to waste time asking these dumb questions

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Speaker 1: every single year. Of course, Clay Hilton is in trouble.

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Speaker 1: Of course, what do you think asking Lin Swan the

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Speaker 1: same question? Forty six times in a row is going

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01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 1: to do for you? Do you just want the add

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Speaker 1: a boy from your readership to say that you put

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Speaker 1: the pressure on the athletic director. To me, that's just

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01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 1: ridiculous if you if you're looking at this conference right now,

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01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 1: and and this is probably what brought this up. We

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01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:06,919
Speaker 1: got a calumnist down here in Arizona who just didn't

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01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 1: even ask Ray Anderson, the athletic director for Arizona State,

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Speaker 1: any questions. He just flat out said, like, hey, what

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01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 1: would it take for her Edwards to be on the

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Speaker 1: hot seat at the end of this year? And that's

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Speaker 1: the column that he went with. And it's just this,

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Speaker 1: all of this speculating on what it would take to

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01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 1: get a coach fired seems like such an enormous waste

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Speaker 1: of time. Deal with the here and now, deal with

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01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 1: the present situation. It is very obvious that USC went

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Speaker 1: five and seven last year. It's very obvious that they

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01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,600
Speaker 1: had to make changes in order to even have this

1144
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 1: UH coaching staff come back as a shell of its

1145
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 1: former self this year. It's very obvious that they're getting

1146
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:46,680
Speaker 1: less highly heralded recruits than in year's past. But they

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01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 1: also had a freshman quarterback last year. They also won

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Speaker 1: the back twelve in two thousands seventeen. You really think

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Speaker 1: if they go out there and they go ten and

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01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 1: two that they're gonna can Clay Hilton if they repeat

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Speaker 1: what they did last year. Probably if they win at all,

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01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 1: probably not. I mean, that's just common sense. Is the

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01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 1: question is is urban walking in the door? If Urban

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01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 1: Meyer is walking in the door, they will Clay Helton

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01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:15,680
Speaker 1: can win ten game, They'll kick his ass to the

1156
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 1: curve and take and take Urban Meyer and any scandal

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01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 1: or any a matter of rest that comes with it, well,

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01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 1: and so if that happens, we'll have something else the

1159
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:29,799
Speaker 1: cast Stones about. But I totally agree with you about.

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01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 1: You know, nobody's ever going to tell the truth about

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01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:37,799
Speaker 1: coaches being fired because the athletic director has to convey

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01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 1: confidence publicly, even if their back room meetings going on

1163
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 1: and people are unhappy. But as the media and as fans,

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01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 1: a lot of times, we have to stop waiting on

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01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 1: and looking at the car crash, even though we can't,

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01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 1: even though it's so difficult, we're waiting on the car crash.

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Speaker 1: You brought up USC was the pack twelve champion in

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Speaker 1: and that and then the next season, everybody's like, oh click,

1169
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 1: Clayheun's gotta get fired. You're like, okay, okay, I mean

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Speaker 1: it's just like there's no margin for for error. And

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Speaker 1: I think that that's why you see so many assistant

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Speaker 1: coaches now, because I know an assistant coach in the

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Speaker 1: Pact twelve that got interviewed by usc USC offered him

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Speaker 1: a hundred thousand dollars more than what he was making,

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Speaker 1: and he turned down the job. So these assistant coaches now,

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Speaker 1: even though they want to move up and all of this,

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Speaker 1: they value the fact that they're like, hold up. They

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01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 1: value stability, and they value opportunity. So they're like, I don't,

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Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know, I don't know. I like

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Speaker 1: where I'm at right now. This is not a bad job.

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01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 1: I might actually be better off here. So we have

1182
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 1: to stop looking for the car crash and just enjoy

1183
01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: the season as opposed to trying to get people fired,

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01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 1: like somebody was trying to fire you from your job

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01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:05,720
Speaker 1: every single day. Oh Ralph, Ralph, Ralph, that uh that

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Speaker 1: that rival's column wasn't as good as I needed. We

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01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 1: gotta we gotta put Ralph on the on the college

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Speaker 1: football writer, high school cover guy, um hot seat and

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Speaker 1: you have been if any but if anybody asked my boss,

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01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 1: and my boss was like, yeah, we're gonna fire him, right,

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01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:36,599
Speaker 1: I mean, it'd be nice to know ahead of time. Yeah,

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01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:41,560
Speaker 1: but nobody's paying attention to that. You guys, thank you

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Speaker 1: guys so much for listening to the Pack twelve apostles.

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Speaker 1: The Pack twelve has to be important to us. If

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Speaker 1: also make sure that you go on Reddit and subscribe

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Speaker 1: to Pack twelve Sports. This is a new subreddit for

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Speaker 1: Pack twelve fans. It is going to be the place

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Speaker 1: where you can find out all the information about not

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Speaker 1: just your specific team, which you should follow and Reddit,

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Speaker 1: but you should follow the PAC twelve Sports because the

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Speaker 1: other conferences all of their teams are well represented on

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Speaker 1: their news every single day, and if you want more

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Speaker 1: Robert got anything for a real out? Yeah? Yeah, stay tuned, Uh,

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Speaker 1: stay tuned for a short interview with recent Washington commit

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Speaker 1: Jacobe Covington's a four star defensive back out here in Scottsdale,

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Speaker 1: Arizona who's already got a couple of high school state

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Speaker 1: championships to his name. He's looking to close it out

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Speaker 1: with a third before he adds up to Seattle. This

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01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 1: is a player who the University of Oklahoma wanted to

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Speaker 1: make him the cornerstone of their defensive recruiting class this year.

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Speaker 1: He chose to stay in the Pact fell So I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna talk to him about why he thinks this conference

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Speaker 1: is the best fit for him. Peace out, can't you

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Speaker 1: guys later