1 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: in Barria, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to 3 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: you by Bally Beck Coming soon to Ohio on eight 4 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: fifty ESPN, Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and 5 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura. 6 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 2: And welcome he to Cleveland Browns Daily, brought you by 7 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 2: Bally Beat, a sports betting partner of your Cleveland Brown's 8 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 2: Coming soon Ohio on he fifty ESPN, Cleveland. 9 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 3: I am merely Bo. He is Gibbe, Hello, Gibbe, Hello Bishop. 10 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 4: Welcome to Friday. 11 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 3: How about it brother, little Father's Day weekend for. 12 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 5: The kids, well holiday weekend, I like on the other end, 13 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 5: in celebration of Juneteenth, So win there after today, we'll 14 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 5: be off until Tuesday, and things getting real real quiet 15 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 5: around here now. 16 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think the other you know, for 17 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: our fans that I you know, you and I were 18 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: talking about this yesterday on the show, like it is 19 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 2: a different timetable than we're used to, and that normally 20 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 2: this is mandatory mini camp week and then we get 21 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: the vacation and then you come back in that last 22 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 2: week of July. But because of the Hall of Fame game, 23 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: because of the Great Hofness. Everything has moved up a week. 24 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: So we were out a week earlier here and then 25 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: we will come back a week earlier by the time 26 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: we get to by the time we get to July, 27 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 2: So the guys will report was a July nineteenth. 28 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 3: We'll have our guys. 29 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 4: Report, correct, I believe that's a Wednesday. 30 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they'll head to the Green Briar over 31 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 2: the weekend the twenty first, twenty second, whatever that is. 32 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's report on Friday the twenty first, and then 33 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 5: we will fly to the Green Brier Saturday morning, the 34 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 5: twenty second. 35 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 3: Okay, there you go. 36 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: So we had coach on this week and one of 37 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 2: the things that I was curious about, and it was 38 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: my curiosities were confirmed, was that one of the things 39 00:01:55,720 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: that he is trying to do is a little bit 40 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 2: of a little spice, a little color, Like you want 41 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: a team build, but you also. 42 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 3: Don't want monotony. 43 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: And if you have to be here on campus, and 44 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: we love being here on campus, but if you are 45 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 2: going to be here from July nineteenth till October first, 46 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, August first, forget that September first. I mean 47 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 2: it's six weeks it's seven weeks. 48 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 3: It's a long long time. 49 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: It's a long haul. So I think one thing that 50 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 2: he was trying to do with the trip to the Greenbrier, 51 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 2: the trip to Philly for the workouts, there could be 52 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: an extended trip obviously once we get into the season 53 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 2: out west. But those first two things, what that is 54 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: about is just a little bit of variety to break 55 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: up the monotony. And he kind of confirmed that this week. 56 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:44,839 Speaker 3: When we talked to him. 57 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I would also say this. You know, there's 58 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 5: a new NFL rule this year. There will only be 59 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 5: one cutdown day and that will be the Tuesday after 60 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 5: the final preseason game. So normally after the second preseason 61 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 5: game you would have a cutdown. You'd cut like twenty guys. 62 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 5: I think ten to twenty guys. You will keep your 63 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 5: ninety man roster through the entire preseason and then make 64 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 5: your cutdowns after the final preseason game in Kansas City. 65 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 5: So I mean, that's a lot of guys that got 66 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 5: to get to know each other, and that's a And 67 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 5: now you're adding a fourth preseason game, and three of 68 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 5: those games around the road. I know one's in Canton 69 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 5: in a neutral site, and you could essentially say it's 70 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 5: going to be a home game, but you're not playing 71 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 5: at Cleveland Brown Stadium. You're playing in going down there. 72 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 5: I was gonna say, logistics wise and road wise, it's 73 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 5: still a road game. So you've got that week in Philly, 74 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 5: you go to Kansas City. Yeah, it is a long, 75 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 5: long preseason, longer than we've had in quite some time. 76 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 5: And I don't blame coach for mixing it up. It's 77 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 5: gonna be a little acting on the rest of us. 78 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 5: But it's not that his carriers not us. 79 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: We are exactly sadly, no, Yeah, it is, so I 80 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 2: think from a and it's interesting, like the rest of 81 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: the NFL closed up Mini camp week this week, and 82 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 2: then it'll be I think what NFL teams hope is 83 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: it'll be radio silent. There will be a couple of 84 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: things hanging out there, like if the DeAndre Hopkins situation 85 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: doesn't fully materialize, that potentially could be out there. There's 86 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 2: a couple of you know, free agent backs and stuff 87 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 2: that are out there, but that stuff I think will 88 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: come closer to camp. 89 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't think that you're going to 90 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 5: hear anything on Burrow or Herbert no, I. 91 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 3: Think they're done. 92 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 4: Don't you know? 93 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 3: It didn't get done this. 94 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 4: Week saquon what happens with him? 95 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think it's stunning, stunning that there's 96 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 2: not a Burrow extension. 97 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 4: The Herbert earlier in the week. 98 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 3: I find that anytime I talked. 99 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 2: To our great friend Jay Morrison, who sadly was was 100 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 2: part of the cuts at the Athlete But that guy 101 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 2: is as good as Holy smokes. That guy's that guy's 102 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 2: big time. But anytime you talk to Jay, you talked 103 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 2: to Ben Baby who works at ESPN, When you talk 104 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 2: to those guys about the process with Burrow and the extension, 105 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 2: the note that the feeling was always don't worry about it, 106 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 2: It'll get done, but that there were times when I 107 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 2: would talk to those guys and they would say, it'll 108 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: be done by before free agency. Well, it'll be done 109 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 2: in April, because there was you know, with the the 110 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 2: money that's going to be putting scrow. If they wait 111 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 2: till April, then it would have to have a whole 112 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 2: of the year to get it in there. Okay, fine, 113 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 2: well all that's coming gone now. Mini camps come and gone, 114 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 2: and right now we still don't have an extension. 115 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 3: They have a lot of balls in the air. 116 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: Obviously, they've got Chase looming, Higgins is now, Burrow can 117 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 2: be now. 118 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 3: So there's a lot of things that I'm sure are connected. 119 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 2: But the idea that we're going to go into summer 120 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: with neither him nor Herbert locked up long term is 121 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 2: pretty That's pretty shocking to me. 122 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there's there's a few other ones that 123 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 5: we saw. Was it Jones out of Kansas City not 124 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 5: reporting for mandatory mini camp, Stefan Diggs. Everybody says all 125 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 5: is well in Buffalo, and maybe it is, but maybe 126 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 5: it isn't. We won't know until July when everybody gets 127 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 5: back together, and I think the Bills are hoping that 128 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 5: story goes away or that narrative goes Awayay, but it'll 129 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 5: be interesting because there's a number of star players that 130 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 5: are I want more, or I need more, or I 131 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 5: don't like my situation currently. Yep, So you're right. But otherwise, 132 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 5: I mean, every NFL office, every NFL team is closed 133 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 5: the week of the fourth of July, and then you 134 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 5: know things will start getting back in earnest. I mean, 135 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 5: they dismantled the media trailer that our content production team 136 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 5: has been working out of for the last few weeks, 137 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 5: started construction on the double decker tent for training camp. 138 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 5: I can tell you that a couple of Semis this 139 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 5: week have already gone to the Greenbrier. 140 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 2: Oh, they've already started shipping stuff down. Yes, yeah, think 141 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 2: about building it up down there. 142 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 4: Correct. 143 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: I was there last summer. We went down there two nights, 144 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 2: three nights, I can't remember. 145 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 4: Took the kids. 146 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 3: We were looking for a place that we could go to. 147 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 2: That was a drive kind of the end of summer 148 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 2: before school to just kind of get away. It is 149 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 2: a it's a unique place, obviously historical place. It's pretty cool. 150 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 2: You're going to feel all of the time you're there. 151 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 2: It's a long haul, brother. 152 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 4: It's a long week. 153 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 3: It's a long week now it is. It's a long week. 154 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 2: It is everything I think coach wants, which is isolated, 155 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 2: like it's I mean, this is old school. This is 156 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: like old school camp. Like, how many teams in the 157 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: NFL still do old school camp? 158 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 6: Pittsburgh? 159 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 3: Do they still do it? 160 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 4: I think they're back to doing it. 161 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 2: Yes, they used they went to that crow La Trobe. Yeah, 162 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: they'd go there and go away there. You know, The 163 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 2: Vikings always used to go to man Cato. I don't 164 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: know if they still do. 165 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 4: The Bears. 166 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 3: The Bears always went they go up to it or something. 167 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 2: I can't remember where they went, but they went somewhere, 168 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 2: But I don't know if they How many teams still do. 169 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 2: The Cowboys always go to California, Yep, to Oxnard. But 170 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 2: there just aren't that many out there that still do 171 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 2: the old school. 172 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 5: Two weeks ago, and I guess my argument to it. 173 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 5: I think the only reason why we're doing it is 174 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 5: because we've got the extra week. Of course, because and 175 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 5: the same with any NFL team. If you have the 176 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 5: ability to host training camp at your facility, with your 177 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 5: state of the art facilities and everything that your players 178 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 5: need to recover and regenerate and be ready to go 179 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 5: the next day and to keep them at their best, 180 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 5: why would you take them away from it? 181 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 2: Well, I think what coach is thinking is he's thinking 182 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 2: old school. 183 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 3: Yes, he's thinking, how do I build a team? It's 184 00:08:59,040 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 3: two things. 185 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 2: It's what I said, it's the doldrums of the monotony 186 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 2: of every day, same thing over. 187 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 5: And it's it's an extensive So that's it's a logger 188 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 5: day yeah, but it. 189 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 2: Is also a so it's that, and then I think 190 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 2: it's also a hey, let's go build something together. Let's 191 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 2: go somewhere where we can't have distractions, let's go somewhere 192 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 2: where we're all on the same page, and let's go 193 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 2: sort that out. So I think, you know, I think 194 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: that's a little part. 195 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 5: Of it as well. I'm fine with it. I'm definitely 196 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 5: looking forward to Philly more so than maybe the Greenbrier. 197 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're right. 198 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 3: I think that's probably right. 199 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 5: But just because you're going up against someone else, you know, 200 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 5: I think people forget like the first five days of 201 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 5: pre of training camp or like acclamation, it's touch football, 202 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 5: it's glorified, like the pads won't come on til the 203 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 5: last couple of days were at the Greenbrier. 204 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: No, And the other thing about Philly is, you know, 205 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 2: we didn't in fact really about the only thing I 206 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 2: remember about Philly is then literally walking on the off 207 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 2: the bus and Z and you and Hoff and going, 208 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 2: oh boy, they're a lot bigger than we thought that 209 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: they were, like physically they were. 210 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 4: This is gonna be an interesting week for it. 211 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 2: But that was also when we found out about DeShawn correct, 212 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 2: So that overshadowed, like everything surrounding those practices was when 213 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 2: are we gonna I mean all we did last year 214 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 2: in campus, when are we gonna find out about to Shawn? 215 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 2: And now we won't have that, And so if that 216 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 2: was a distraction for us, it was a distraction with 217 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 2: the team too. 218 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 4: Yep. 219 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: So it'll be very different this year and you're gonna 220 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: get that experience down at the Greenbrier and then Philly 221 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,359 Speaker 2: as well. So this will be a very interesting preseason 222 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: by the time this team comes back here in a 223 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 2: little bit more than a month, by the time all 224 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 2: is said and done. Got a fun program for you 225 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 2: guys today, Zee with a conversation with defensive line coach 226 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 2: Ben Bloom. TC McCartney, who's one of our favorites, will 227 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 2: have him on the program as well. Mj Emerson will 228 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 2: be on the program today, so too will Harrison Bryant, 229 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:58,239 Speaker 2: Isaiah Thomas. We've got some fun, fun mini camp recaps 230 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 2: for you as well. Coming up on the program today. 231 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 2: It is a Father's Day weekend edition. A favorite Father's 232 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 2: Day moment for you as a kid. 233 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 4: Give I don't, I don't, I don't know. 234 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 5: We were always horseback I mean always probably playing, probably 235 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 5: in the backyard of my grandmother's house on the east 236 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 5: side of Cleveland, playing Bachie. 237 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 2: Well, that's because you're on the east side. That's why 238 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 2: you look back so fondly of it. I think it's 239 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 2: time to go to break too easy. 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I'm Jason Gibbs. 253 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 5: This is Cleveland Brown's Daily, a special edition brought to 254 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 5: you by Bally Bett, a sports betting partner of Your 255 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 5: Cleveland Brown's coming soon to Ohio. You'll hear a number 256 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 5: of interviews during the show today, as Bo alluded to 257 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 5: in segment one, Nathan Zegura sitting down with a number 258 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 5: of luminaries last week during mini camp and to get 259 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,599 Speaker 5: their impressions on the off season, the off season additions, 260 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 5: and a look at how the off season program has gone. 261 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 5: Right now, it's our new defensive line coach. His name 262 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 5: is Ben Bloom. He's been with the team for a 263 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 5: couple of years. Promoted to defensive line coach. Here's his 264 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 5: interview with one Nathan Zegura from last week at Brown's 265 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 5: Mini camp. 266 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,479 Speaker 7: Very happy now but to be joined by Brown's defensive 267 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 7: line coach, Ben Bloom. 268 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 8: How does that sound when you hear that out loud. 269 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 9: Mister Sigura, It sounds nice, especially coming from one of 270 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 9: the voices of the Cleveland Browns. 271 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 7: Too kind. How has this been for you? Opportunity to 272 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 7: come You know, you've been the run game coordinator, working 273 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 7: with the backers a little bit, working with line, working 274 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 7: with everybody in. 275 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 8: The run game. 276 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 7: To come in and take in command of your own 277 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 7: room and what's that been like for you? 278 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 8: What's your style? 279 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 6: Well, I'm very excited about it. 280 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 9: It's been an unbelievable process so far, this last couple 281 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 9: of months. I mean really fortunate with you know, coach Stefanski, 282 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 9: you know, supporting me in this role and giving me 283 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 9: this opportunity and working for coach Schwartz. He's got a 284 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 9: long track record of having excellent defenses and excellent defensive 285 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 9: lines in his long career as a coordinator and head coach. 286 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 9: So to be put in this position for me, I'm 287 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 9: I'm fortunate and I'm I'm really excited going forward. 288 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 7: It's gotta be a nice step in. And you knew 289 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 7: you had Miles Garrett and they said, you know what, 290 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 7: mister Bloo, We're going to go ahead and we're gonna 291 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 7: bring you a Dalvin Tomlinson. We're gonna bring you in 292 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 7: obokran Cole. We're gonna get you is Darius Smith. We're 293 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 7: gonna get some guys in the draft as well. Eco Maguire. 294 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 7: This is a This is a loaded room. There are 295 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 7: a lot of a lot of talent in there. What's 296 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 7: kind of when you look around this room and you've 297 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 7: seen been around some good defenses in the past. What 298 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 7: do you think about your group right now? 299 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 6: Well, you know, we're pumped up for the for the 300 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 6: guys we have in the room. 301 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 9: We know the men in the room are capable of 302 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 9: making a lot of plays and helping our team win. 303 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 10: Uh. 304 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 9: We take very seriously our responsibility within our defense to 305 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 9: set the tone and be the engine of the group. 306 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 9: And that's you know, that's what we that's what's on 307 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 9: our mind every day when we come out and work 308 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 9: in the off season. 309 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 6: And uh, you know, as a. 310 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 9: Coach, you you know, you're always grateful when you know 311 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 9: Andrew Barry and there's the personnel department go ahead and 312 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 9: they add talented guys via free agency, in the draft 313 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 9: and trade. 314 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 6: So you know, I'm very excited about that. 315 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 4: All right. 316 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 7: So we know about Miles obviously. Now you bring in 317 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 7: Zadarius Smith, and I gotta tell you, when I first 318 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 7: saw him, I had no idea how big he was, 319 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 7: just thick and explosive and powerful. We know about the 320 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 7: productivity obviously, but now you bring him in, what is that? 321 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 7: How does that help you? And obviously what's it been 322 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 7: like working with the dearies. What's he kind of brought 323 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 7: to your room. 324 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 6: No, Zarius is a girl man, right. He's played in 325 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 6: the league a long time. 326 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 9: He's been productive, you know, across the front, in the 327 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 9: run game and of course the past game as a rusher. 328 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 9: So uh yeah, I mean it's been awesome having having 329 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:32,239 Speaker 9: him here in the offseason. 330 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 6: He doesn't remember when I. 331 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 9: Was coaching d line at Dallas and I worked him 332 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 9: out at Kentucky with Bud Dupree, but I remember it. 333 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 3: Uh. 334 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 6: He vaguely remembers it, but I remember it well. 335 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 9: And you know the things you just mentioned his you know, 336 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 9: toughness and power and coordination and effort. Those things were 337 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 9: obvious then when he was a college player and when 338 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 9: I worked him out, and they've been on display in 339 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 9: the NFL for multiple teams since then. Not have him 340 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 9: here at the Browns with us and get to work 341 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 9: with him. 342 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 6: It's special and he's he's a leader, and it's a 343 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 6: good thing. 344 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 9: He's gonna make all of us better while he's productive 345 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 9: and just kicking ass himself. 346 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 347 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 7: There are only five guys in the league that have 348 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 7: double digit sex and three the last four seasons, and 349 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 7: you've got two of them, Miles and Zadarias Smith I 350 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 7: want to ask you though, because this is a passing 351 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 7: camp certainly this phase of the offseason, what are you 352 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 7: trying to do with your d line. You don't get 353 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 7: the opportunity go out there and really rush the quarterback. 354 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 7: You don't get opportunity to kind of do some of 355 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 7: the things. So what's the focus there? And I'll go 356 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 7: to some of the games we saw kind of on 357 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 7: the pads and Zadarius and Miles going ahead to head 358 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 7: those competitions. So what are you looking to get out 359 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 7: of your guys this time before we can actually put 360 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 7: pads on and play real football and let them do 361 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 7: what they do. 362 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 9: You know, our number one job right now is to 363 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 9: lay a foundation for the season, and specifically that foundation 364 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 9: is first or a style of play. You know, the speed, 365 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 9: the effort, the toughness, the violence we play with. Now 366 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 9: we're doing that an individual only because that's you know, 367 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 9: the rules. So we're we're doing drills on grass, we're hitting, 368 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 9: hitting our sled. We have various ways of working passworus moves, 369 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 9: try to simulate some one on one passwords, situations on 370 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:15,959 Speaker 9: dummies and bags and things like that. So we're building 371 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 9: a mentality, setting that standard for ourselves, which is that 372 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 9: standard's growing and increasing every day. And then we're also 373 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 9: you know, learning the fundamentals and the techniques we're going 374 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 9: to use, and then more on a walk through format, 375 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 9: the actual scheme and the plays and the responsibilities. So 376 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 9: most of it is from an individual drill works standpoint. 377 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 7: So everybody I've talked to in your room, when I've 378 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 7: talked to a bunch of them already the soft season, 379 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 7: they smile whenever I ask them about this scheme, and 380 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 7: they basically love the simplicity that their job is to 381 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 7: and I'll say it for Radio approved, mess things up. 382 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 7: That they can just play free, get vertical, get a 383 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 7: field and be disruptive. And there seems to be a 384 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:56,959 Speaker 7: lot of joy in your room about that. 385 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 9: Yeah, man, I think if you ask any d lineman, 386 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 9: those are the things that you want to do. 387 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 6: So we're fortunate. 388 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 9: You know, when line one is mess things up, get 389 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 9: off the ball and run and finish, you know, that's 390 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 9: what we want to do. We want to get off 391 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 9: the ball, we want to mess things up. We want 392 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 9: to run and finish on the ball. Carr on the quarterback. 393 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 9: You know, however far we have to run, We're gonna 394 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 9: run that far to do our job. And we all 395 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 9: understand that, and we know that's the standard and the 396 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 9: expectation for the position group. And I would say, you know, 397 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 9: with great responsibility comes great expectations the Spider Man quote 398 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 9: something of that nature that's. 399 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 6: Been thrown around a couple of times this offseason. 400 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 9: By Miles by coach Schwartz. So, yeah, we're playing free, 401 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 9: but we got to get off the ball. We gotta 402 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 9: we gotta gotta mess it up. Yeah, we got to 403 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 9: make plays, and we gotta be where we're supposed to 404 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 9: be within the confines of the call. 405 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 6: So it's not, you know, a free for all. 406 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 4: So to speak. 407 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 9: There's expectations of what we need to do in a 408 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 9: certain type of way being said. 409 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 6: If it's done right, it's gonna be fun. 410 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 9: And I think that's where guys are smiling when you 411 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 9: ask him about it. 412 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 7: Absolutely, And let's saying that Edgroom real quickly. Maybe the 413 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 7: deepest room on the defense. You think about Miles, Zadarius, 414 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 7: you bring in Obo, You got Alex right back now 415 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 7: in his second year and his inside outside versatility. Isaiah 416 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 7: mcquires quite a specimen. Isaiah Thomas is a guy who 417 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 7: has made plays in his rookie season. 418 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 8: When you think about that group. 419 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 7: And the fact that you know there's a chance that 420 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 7: five could be up, there's chance that five could be 421 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 7: playing in the way that you're going to be shuffling 422 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 7: these guys in and out. How excited are you about 423 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 7: that group and what have you seen from some of 424 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 7: the young guys in their development. 425 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm excited about the group. 426 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 4: You know. 427 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 9: Obviously, Miles, you know, his career so far speaks for itself. 428 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 9: I know he's got plenty of more meat on the 429 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 9: bone and a lot more that he's going to accomplish 430 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 9: in his career. And then a guy like Zadarius already 431 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 9: spoke about him, but you bring in a guy that's 432 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 9: been on multiple teams, has had production in multiple places. 433 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 9: He brings a certain type of you know, standard of 434 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 9: how to do things and professionalism to add to a 435 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 9: veteran like Miles already. 436 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 6: And then Obo, you know, hasn't been the league as long, 437 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 6: but Obo. 438 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 9: Like he's had some real productive seasons recently last year 439 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 9: it was awesome for him. He's you know, played on 440 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 9: two different teams, he's been around the league. He's got 441 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 9: a perspective on how to do things, how to bring energy, 442 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 9: how to come to work with the right mindset every day. 443 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 9: So you got three guys like that at one position, 444 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 9: you're lucky. And then Alex just he's continuing to get better. 445 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 9: Same thing with it. And of course, you know, Isam 446 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 9: McGuire like he's shown some good things so far. 447 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean he's still got to put pads on 448 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 6: and play real football. But yeah, I mean we're I mean, yeah, 449 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 6: you nailed it. 450 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 9: It's it's a really good group. And I'm excited about 451 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 9: where they're heading. All those guys have gotten better, and 452 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 9: you know, we just got to keep improving daily. 453 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 8: Talk about the interior quickly. 454 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 7: Dalvin Tomson comes in, and that's really the one guy 455 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 7: that has an established track record in this league. We've 456 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 7: seen flashes from Jordan Elliott, we drafted Siaki, you brought 457 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 7: some guys some research has been very productive when healthy 458 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 7: in this league, so there's some pedigree there. Perry On, 459 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 7: I thought really flashed over the second half of last season. 460 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 8: So it's good. 461 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 7: I think there's gonna be a lot of competition. I think, 462 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 7: you know, Dalvin, a lot of competition behind that. Who's 463 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 7: kind of caught your eye, if anybody, And how much 464 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 7: are you looking forward to that? And again, I know 465 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 7: the pads haven't come on yet. 466 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, right, like Dalvin. 467 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 9: I remember Dalvin coming out from Alabama and remember him 468 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 9: at the beginning. 469 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 6: Of his career at New York. 470 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 9: He's a big, strong guy who's explosive and his ability 471 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 9: to affect the run gay man in the past game. 472 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 9: So it's it's great to have a guy like him 473 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 9: who works and has you know, leadership and role models 474 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 9: and yeah, I mean so he yeah, so yeah, I 475 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 9: value that as a coach. Un Fortunate, you know, because 476 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 9: he just comes out and works every day and is 477 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 9: you know, detailed, and he's a pros pro. Yeah, I 478 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 9: mean Jordan, I agree, Jordan's I think he's improved every year. 479 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 9: I think he's gonna have the opportunity to flourish in 480 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,479 Speaker 9: what we're doing this year in this scheme. 481 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 6: And then, uh, you know, we're fortunate. 482 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 9: To get a guy like Mohurst because like you said, 483 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 9: he's he's production. He's played in systems very similar to this, 484 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 9: so he kind of knows or he does know. Really 485 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 9: he's got a he's got a really good understanding what 486 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 9: we're trying to do, you know. So he's a guy that, uh, 487 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 9: you know, provides some leadership in that way, especially from 488 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 9: like a technique and steam scheme standpoint. 489 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 6: And see hockey's off to a good start. 490 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 8: You know, big boy, a big man. 491 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 9: He works, he has fun, he brings energy, he's improving. 492 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 9: You know, he's showing you know, good professional work habots 493 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 9: to start here. And in all my challenge him to 494 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 9: keep saying on that track, and I know he will, 495 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 9: but I'm excited about him. And then you know perry On, 496 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 9: you know, he's working hard, and he's got that length 497 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 9: and that explosion, and he's got a lot of juice 498 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 9: on the field. And even guy like Tristan Hill, who's 499 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 9: former second pick. I was in Dallas when we drafted him. 500 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 9: You know, Tristan has done some really nice things so 501 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 9: for us already. So I'm excited about the whole group, 502 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 9: and uh, you know, fortunate uh to have these guys 503 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 9: in the room in the personal department being really you know, 504 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 9: intentional and build. 505 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 7: It is perry On a guy that if if Perryon 506 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 7: can allow himself to be the best version of himself, 507 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 7: I mean I think he could have had three sets 508 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 7: over the second half of the season from the interior, 509 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 7: which is incredibly impressive. Is that if he can do that, 510 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 7: if he can you talk about being professional, if he 511 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 7: can get to that level the talent he has, do 512 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 7: you think he has a chance to be something special 513 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 7: in this defense? 514 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 6: Absolutely. 515 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 9: I mean, you know, I spent a lot of time 516 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 9: evaluating Perion when he came out. You know, he's got 517 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 9: a lot of length, he's explosive, he's tough, he's competitive. 518 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 9: So I think with any young player in the league 519 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 9: who's entering their second year, you know that there's a 520 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 9: lot of adjustments in that first year as a rookie. 521 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 9: So sometimes it takes a year to really uh get 522 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 9: your feet under you, and. 523 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 6: That's just the reality. 524 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 9: And some especially sometimes that that was defensive line or 525 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 9: interior defensive line positions. So I'm very optimistic about what 526 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 9: he's doing. And yeah, I believe he's got the ability 527 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 9: to be a significant player for us and have a 528 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 9: really uh impactful career. 529 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 7: We can't wait to see your guys actually put the 530 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 7: pads on get unleash against our guys against somebody else. 531 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 7: But we'll start with that and then it should be 532 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 7: a lot of fun this year. 533 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 9: Just take Pads to start whoever it's against, and then 534 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 9: of course Padz or someone else is the what we're 535 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 9: really looking forward to. 536 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 7: Absolutely, Coach, thanks for the time and enjoy your summer. 537 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 7: Can't we see at the Green Brier. 538 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 5: I'll see the Green Brier Coach Bloom one of the 539 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 5: best there is. We wish him all the best in 540 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 5: year one as the head of that vaunted defensive line room. 541 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 5: We'll take a quick time out. When we come back 542 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 5: from this commercial break, you'll hear from tight end coach 543 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 5: TC McCartney. 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I'm Jay and Gibbs. 551 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 5: This is a special edition of Cleveland Browns Daily brought 552 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 5: to you by Bally Betta, sports betting partner of your 553 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 5: Cleveland Browns coming soon to Ohio. You heard from defensive 554 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 5: line coach Ben Bloom now to the offensive side of things, 555 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 5: and to talk about the tight end room, which is 556 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 5: now a very loaded and heavy weaponized tight end room 557 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 5: as we get ready for the twenty twenty three season. 558 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 5: Here's tight end coach TC McCartney with our own Nathan 559 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 5: Zigaro from last week in mini camp. 560 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 7: TC second year in this role. For you, what do 561 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 7: you think you learned the most about? You know, obviously 562 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 7: spent a lot of time with the quarterbacks, being a 563 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 7: quarterback yourself, going to the tight ends last year, and 564 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 7: now as you go into your second season with that group, 565 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 7: I think. 566 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 11: Just a little details, a little details of preparation, the 567 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 11: little details that come up in the run game, making 568 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 11: adjustments in between series in the run game is a 569 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 11: little different than what I've done before, So it was 570 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 11: good to do those things and improve upon those things 571 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 11: for me. 572 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 7: You know, they say quarterbacks obviously a tough position in 573 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 7: all professional sports, but I think for a young player 574 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 7: coming to the league after a quarterback, tight end's got 575 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 7: to be one of the toughest because you need to 576 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 7: know everything in the run game, everything in the past 577 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 7: game and then oh, you're gonna have to block guys 578 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 7: like Miles Garrett Is Darius Smith from time to time. 579 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 11: Yeah, especially in this offense, we ask these guys to 580 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 11: do a ton run game wise, just different schemes. Pass protection, obviously, 581 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 11: you're dealing with, like you said, some really really good 582 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 11: players on the edge, usually the best players on defense 583 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 11: or on the edge of that defense. So we have 584 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 11: to be able to physically block those guys, and then 585 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 11: we have to win versus mash coverage versus safeties in 586 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 11: the pass game. So there's a lot to do, there's 587 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 11: a lot to develop. So I think that's why it 588 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 11: takes guy's time when they get into the. 589 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 7: NFL's talk about your room. It's great to get Chief 590 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 7: back obviously for the mini camp, obviously was he was 591 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 7: not shirking his responsibilities on conditioning his body. He came 592 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,959 Speaker 7: here looking like the adonnas that he always is. What 593 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 7: have you seen from him coming back in the kind 594 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 7: of the chemistry that's growing obviously between him and Shaun Watson. 595 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 11: Yeah, that's something you never have to worry about with 596 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 11: Dave is He's gonna be in shape, he's gonna take 597 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 11: care of himself, So it was good to see him. 598 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 8: It's good to have him back. 599 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 11: And again it's always how many out bats can we 600 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 11: get with him and de Sean throwing the ball, whether 601 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 11: that's routes on air, whether that's talking through routes, whether 602 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 11: that's practice reps. 603 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 8: So it's good to have. 604 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 11: Him back for these three days, and then in training 605 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,239 Speaker 11: camp and moving forward, it'll be really good to get 606 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 11: those guys on the same page. 607 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 7: You know, last year you could seek glimpses of him 608 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 7: having a really breakout type of a season and a 609 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 7: little bit injured in the middle of the season, but 610 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 7: came back, made some huge plays down the stretch for 611 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 7: the Browns, and I caught the first touchdown pass from 612 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 7: Sean Watson in Cincinnati. Do you think this is a 613 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 7: year where he can even take another step forward, especially 614 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 7: with the likelihood we're going to be throwing the ball 615 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 7: a little bit more than perhaps earlier in his career. 616 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 11: I think definitely he's gonna he's he's already taken steps 617 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 11: of just an learning, understanding, contributing. But I think talking 618 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 11: to these guys, if you just measure it solely on production, 619 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 11: production isn't always up to you, okay, So we in 620 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 11: that room, we don't talk about production as much. And 621 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 11: obviously it's how everyone gets paid. It's how I get paid, 622 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 11: So I understand how important it is. But you watch 623 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 11: just a team like an NBA Finals, the Nuggets, and 624 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 11: how Joker can impact the game in so many He 625 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 11: doesn't always have to shoot well and so when the 626 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 11: tight ender, it's very similar. We can impact the game 627 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 11: in a ton of different ways, which he does and can, 628 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 11: and so we're going to try and take steps that 629 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 11: no matter if the productions their productions not, we're always 630 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 11: impacting the game in a place where we can win. 631 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 7: At the end of the day, there's one football and 632 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 7: there's a lot of talent on this offense. 633 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 11: This year, there's no doubt we added a lot of speed. 634 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 11: There's a lot of guys who deserve to touch the football, 635 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 11: Dave being you know, among them. So it's a lot 636 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 11: of fun one football and how can we impact the 637 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 11: game and ultimately win the game. 638 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 7: When you think back to your days as a quarterback, 639 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 7: was it always sometimes tough in the huddle, Like if 640 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 7: you were looking around and you're in a huddle and 641 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 7: you got Amari Cooper and Donovan and Elijah Moore and 642 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 7: Goodwin and Chief and there, and then Nick Chubbs sometimes 643 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 7: would be in for one of those guys and they're 644 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 7: all like, give me. 645 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 11: The rock man, Come on, everyone wants to touch the ball. 646 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 11: Everyone's touch the ball. When we you were playing quarterback, 647 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 11: you know that one it's segmented each play and you 648 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 11: just could play one play at a time. Only one 649 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 11: guy's gonna touch it at a time, and any given 650 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 11: play anyways, and so just going throughout trusting them at 651 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 11: the plan, trusting that the ball is going to go 652 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 11: where it will and we win the game or where 653 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 11: it should and we win the game. But yeah, I 654 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,719 Speaker 11: think if you if you look at it and then 655 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 11: practice huddle and you want to make sure everybody touches 656 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 11: it, it can be a little overwhelming at times. 657 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 7: Well, at least you have that kind of perspective you 658 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 7: can give them, like listen, as the quarterbacks, it's hard 659 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 7: to get everybody the ball all the time. One guy 660 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 7: you mentioned who's gonna come in, and I think you know, 661 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 7: from a production standpoint, it'll be there, but also he's 662 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 7: going to do a lot of things and help our 663 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 7: quarterback field controls. The guy who play with them, Jordan 664 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 7: akens and you know he's already looked good. He can 665 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 7: do as some receiver skills to him, natural mover, natural 666 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 7: route runner. What do you think he brings to this team? 667 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 11: I mean, first, he's just an incredible athlete. 668 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 8: Obviously no baseball player, and people didn't know that. 669 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 11: Yeah, pro baseball, center field, The hand eye coordination it 670 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 11: takes to play that sport, whether it's hitting or whether 671 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 11: it's fielding. He's you know, so as athleticism, he's an 672 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 11: explosive player. He's got really really good hands. He's definitely 673 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 11: gonna make an impact for us this year. And obviously 674 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 11: the comfortability with the Shawn is always a good thing. Again, 675 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 11: more AB's more at bats for every everybody and he 676 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 11: already has some, so that's a good thing. 677 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 7: It's wild, and I think people don't really understand how 678 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 7: hard it is to be a twenty six year old 679 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 7: rookie and still be a third round pick in the 680 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 7: NFL when he really hadn't even played tight end, I 681 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 7: mean not much at all in college, started as a 682 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 7: kick returner and a receiver, and then is a tight 683 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 7: end in the NFL. 684 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 8: Because I was talking to me, he's like, yeah. 685 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 7: It's my fifth year and you know, five years in 686 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 7: the league. He's thirty one already, but still new to 687 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 7: the league in some sense. 688 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 11: Yeah, to be able to transition professional sports is incredible. 689 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 8: And we had a two guys really. 690 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 11: With Jordan and then Marquisse, who's obviously a triple jumper. 691 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 11: But it's the focus, the work it takes to be 692 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 11: able to transition sports and play at the professional level 693 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 11: in the NFL. 694 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 8: It's truly incredible. 695 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 7: So you got Najoku, you got Aikens. You also have 696 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 7: Harrison Bryant, final year of his rookie deal, and it's 697 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 7: amazing how that's this is his fourth season now, how 698 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 7: quickly it's gone, but always reliable and he says able 699 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 7: to get a lot of work in those OTA's, how's 700 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,959 Speaker 7: he progress in here? And you know this now his 701 00:30:59,000 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 7: fourth season. 702 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 11: I love talking about Harrison. I think he's so underrated 703 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 11: as what he brings to this team. Again, we don't 704 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 11: always control production, so he doesn't always control the production 705 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 11: he gets. But the way he can impact the game, 706 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 11: the way he impacts our room is special. He's a 707 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 11: special football player. He can do a lot of different 708 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 11: things and he makes everybody else's life easier. He sets 709 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 11: the tone as far as the work ethic. He's a 710 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 11: really underrated player and I'm excited hopefully he can get 711 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,479 Speaker 11: some more opportunities to show some more production here. But 712 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 11: what he does for the room is it's hard to. 713 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 7: Measure what I think is interested in your room this year. 714 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 7: And obviously I know we're kind of varying the offense 715 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 7: and we're going to have more pass concepts, but we 716 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 7: have an ability to go out there and show, you know, 717 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 7: thirteen personnel and then run eleven personnel plays out of 718 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 7: it because of what your guys are able to do 719 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 7: as receivers. Harrison Brian's been flexed out plenty. Akens has 720 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 7: been flexed out plenty, so is the chief. I feel 721 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 7: like there's an opportunity in your room to create a 722 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 7: lot of mismatches this year. 723 00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 8: Absolutely. 724 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 11: We have versatile guys that can again in pass protection 725 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 11: and route running in the run game, Guys that can 726 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 11: play at the line of screamagers, guys that could play 727 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 11: in space. So when you get all three of them 728 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 11: on the field, you can really give defensive issues, whether 729 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 11: it's matchup or you know, formationally and schematically. 730 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 6: So it should be good. 731 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 7: Zayer Mitchell Payton is a guy who looks like out 732 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 7: of Central Casting. I mean talk about another like head 733 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 7: turner off the bus guy, great body, clearly strong. How's 734 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 7: he developing is? I know he's still a little bit raw, 735 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 7: but how's he coming along? Because it feels like at 736 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 7: some point he could be a fearsome blocker and then 737 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 7: a guy who can make plays for you in the 738 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 7: red zone. 739 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 11: Absolutely, Zayer's made huge strides even from the end of 740 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 11: last year, but from the beginning when he got here 741 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 11: till now, huge strides. I think he's something that everyone 742 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 11: should be excited about here in the future. Again contributing 743 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 11: in multiple ways. And when you see this guy, he 744 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 11: looks like he belongs out there, I promise you. But 745 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 11: he's been good for our room. He continues to develop, 746 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 11: another guy who sets the pace on the team for 747 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 11: work ethic. So I'm excited about him. He just needs 748 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 11: to play more and play more so this preseason. Getting 749 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 11: that extra game really beneficial for guys like Zaire. Getting 750 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 11: to play more plays. More places will benefit of the more 751 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 11: plays he plays, the faster he'll developed. 752 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 7: This chief is Chief saying, hey man, I'm the body 753 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,239 Speaker 7: in this room. You got to slow down a little bit. 754 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 8: There's Ayre. 755 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 11: I think there's always a little healthy competition, always a 756 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 11: little healthy competition. 757 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 7: But he's still the chief, no doubt, no doubt. How's 758 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 7: that Thomas Greeney doing. I've seen him, you know in 759 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 7: some of the individual drills. Looks like a pretty natural 760 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 7: route runner, good hands. 761 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 8: What have you seen from the rookie? 762 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 11: He's played, you know, extremely well, especially these last two weeks, 763 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 11: the last week OTAs and then in the MIDI camp, 764 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 11: had a really good two weeks to finish. I think 765 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 11: his hands were the biggest display. And again, these camps 766 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 11: aren't really built for the run game, and so when 767 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 11: we get into when we get the pads on here 768 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 11: in training camp, it'll be you know, good to see 769 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 11: him do that. 770 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 8: But for what we asked him to do in these camps. 771 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 6: He showed out very well. 772 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 7: TC, thanks for time, have a great summer, and we'll 773 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 7: see you at the Greenbrier when this thing really starts 774 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 7: cranking up. 775 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 11: Absolutely appreciate you having me on here. 776 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 5: And just like with Coach Bloom, wishing coach TC McCartney 777 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 5: all the best here with his tight end room and 778 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 5: that offense promises to be special. If it's anything like 779 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 5: we've seen over the past month and a half, we'll 780 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 5: take a time out when we come back from this 781 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 5: commercial break. Cornerback mj Emerson sits down with Nathan Zigura. 782 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 5: You're listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by 783 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 5: bally Bet, a sports betting partner of your Cleveland Browns. 784 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 5: Coming soon to Ohio on eight to fifty ESPN Cleveland. 785 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally Beck Coming 786 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,280 Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight to fifty ESPN Cleveland. 787 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 5: Welcome back to Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by 788 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 5: bally Bett, a sports betting partner of your Cleveland Browns 789 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,760 Speaker 5: coming soon to Ohio. We hope you're enjoying this special 790 00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 5: edition of Cleveland Brown's Daily. Reminder, we will be off 791 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 5: on Monday in observance of the Juneteenth Holiday. We will 792 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 5: be back with you on Tuesday, so we hope you're 793 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 5: enjoying our special programming today. A lot of exclusive one 794 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 5: on one interviews that we put in the can, as 795 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 5: they like to say in the industry. Last week with 796 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 5: Nathan Ziggura out at Mini Camp, and you're getting a 797 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 5: chance to hear them for the first time today. Coming up, 798 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 5: you'll hear from tight end Harrison Bryant and defensive end 799 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 5: Isaiah Thomas. Right now though, a gentleman who made his 800 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 5: mark his rookie year and his prime for a big 801 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 5: year two. Here's cornerback MJ Emerson. 802 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 7: Great to be joined as always by a great friend 803 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 7: of the program. Brown's cornerback m J Emerson. 804 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 6: MJ. 805 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 8: How you doing? 806 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 4: How you doing today? I'm doing well? Man. 807 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,399 Speaker 7: What as you sit here right now and you're going 808 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 7: through you know, we just took the pictures and you're 809 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 7: getting everything ready and all of that. How different do 810 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 7: you feel going through this than you do when you're 811 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 7: walking out here as a rookie. Maybe be a little 812 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 7: more nervous, it's a little more trying to like fit in. 813 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 7: And now I feel like you're so comfortable and ready 814 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,280 Speaker 7: to come out here and you know, be that second 815 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 7: year stud. 816 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,040 Speaker 10: Yeah, I will say I'm more comfortable, you know, and 817 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 10: I to just know what to expect, you know, around 818 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 10: the building and just in his game. I guess, you know, 819 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 10: I'm still learning a lot, but yeah, I'm more comfortable 820 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 10: in know I'm just being myself. 821 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 7: What's it been like going through kind of those OTAs. 822 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 7: Now we talked a little bit about the iron sharp 823 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 7: and iron and you guys are bringing it. 824 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 8: This is a new look. 825 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 7: Receiving corps to Sean is obviously more comfortable now. It 826 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 7: feels like it's been fun so back and forth and 827 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 7: that's good, right, it's a passing camp. The rules of 828 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 7: us and we know are slanting in the offenses favor 829 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 7: and in this situation. But has it been fun to 830 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,399 Speaker 7: kind of see that and see you know, Mari finally 831 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 7: get out there and see kind of this team start 832 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:29,280 Speaker 7: to come together. 833 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 10: Yeah, it's been really fun, you know, just go out 834 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 10: and compete against the guys and and just you know, 835 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 10: just see what team, you know, what we're going into 836 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 10: the season with and going about it with every Sunday. 837 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 10: So it's just fun, you know, just getting to know 838 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,280 Speaker 10: everybody and just learning each other weaknesses and strengths. 839 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 7: Do you feel like it just feels like there's a 840 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 7: lot of camaraderie on this team and there are new 841 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 7: pieces like Wind's coming in. It feels like Wand fits 842 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:51,800 Speaker 7: in right away, and you know, you look at just 843 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 7: kind of everybody seems to really enjoy being around each other. 844 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 8: Do you find that to be true this year? 845 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 4: Yes, I would agree. 846 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 10: I will say, Oh, my chemistry is way different. It's 847 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 10: just way better than last year. And you know, the 848 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 10: season just started and I just you know, brown this 849 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 10: time last year, but just now, I would just now 850 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 10: be getting here, not too long ago, and you know, 851 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 10: and last year I just kind of remember how it 852 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 10: was and there for like three weeks. 853 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:17,919 Speaker 12: Yeah, I know, I would be here like three weeks 854 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 12: and it was just different. 855 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 13: You know. 856 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,359 Speaker 10: I going through this process now and just your two 857 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 10: just feel a little different in a good way. It 858 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 10: feels better, absolutely, and now you get go through it here. 859 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 7: I feel like your scream was you're pretty your first 860 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 7: way a little shy, a little shy, but then you 861 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 7: started bringing it. 862 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 10: Y'A don't really like to yell too much, but you know, 863 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 10: I'm gonna get the job done. So they called over 864 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 10: to yell, and I'm gonna get the job done. 865 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 8: So it's more of like a quiet assassin. 866 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,399 Speaker 10: Exactly until somebody poked me. When somebody poked me, then 867 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 10: it's time to go. 868 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 8: So will you are you talking some trash out there 869 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 8: this year? 870 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 4: Uh? 871 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,839 Speaker 12: Yeah, not too much. But I was I'm pretty sure 872 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 12: I'll be talking a lot more this year. 873 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 7: Who's the best trashoker even countered so far on the 874 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 7: Browns or otherwise. 875 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 10: Best trash talker, best trash talking on the brown Probably 876 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 10: every time he was in the game, he was talking 877 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 10: talking trash all the time. He might even make a play. 878 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,800 Speaker 10: He's still talking trash. So I'll probably say Perry and 879 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 10: uh posing team. I don't know a lot of people 880 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 10: talk trash. 881 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 8: Does that get you fired up a little bit? 882 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 4: Yeah? 883 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 10: I love when guys talk trash to me because it 884 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 10: brings out the best of me. 885 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 12: So, yeah, we're talking trash. 886 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 8: We ain't see some more strap up this year. 887 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 10: We're going more that, you know, a signature move. I 888 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 10: might just stick with the seat belt, you know, strap 889 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 10: blocked down on the lake. But I'm not sure I 890 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 10: want to come up with a dance. But I got 891 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 10: a score. When I score, then I'm come out with 892 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:41,839 Speaker 10: a dance. 893 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 7: Have we have we practiced us and we rehearsed us 894 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 7: in front of the maryor like is it ready or 895 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 7: it's just more Oh yeah, okay, so it's ready, it's done. 896 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 4: Ready. 897 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 10: But I'm not sure if I want to go with 898 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 10: that dance yet, but I got one ready. So we 899 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 10: had a game today, I would have one ready. 900 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 8: Yeah that's a pick sex or scooping scorer. 901 00:38:58,040 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 10: You got to be in the end ze Yeah, maybe 902 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 10: like a game like you know, yeah, a pick and 903 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:04,879 Speaker 10: it's just like, oh, that's the game. 904 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll probably do it then. 905 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 7: So we talked last week. Are you are you ready 906 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,320 Speaker 7: to tell us what's on the line in your competition 907 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 7: with Greg Newsom? 908 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 8: Yeah? You're all tell what's the prise? What's the trophy? 909 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 12: It's just a couple of dollars some money? 910 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 8: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah? 911 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 7: Do you do you guys like, do you ever got 912 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 7: the cornerback room? You guys know, you guys hang out 913 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 7: a lot off the field. What do you guys like 914 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 7: to do together? 915 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 10: Probably bowling? We go bowling a lot. Really, we play 916 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 10: pool a lot. And we always like to eat good. 917 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 12: So go say somewhere eat Okay, who's. 918 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 8: The best bowler? 919 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 12: Greg Newsom? 920 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 4: Yeah? What's what? Would you? 921 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 8: What's like his average? 922 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 4: It's average like five? 923 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 8: What that's legit? 924 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 4: Real good? 925 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 10: His own bowling ball and all you know, he was 926 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 10: in bowling leagues and all that. Yeah, you're all right, 927 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 10: where are you at me. 928 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 4: You what a good day? 929 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,479 Speaker 10: I can roll the one seventy five I beat great before, 930 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 10: I beat him with like a one eighty six. But 931 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 10: I'm just inconsistent. So on an average, it just depends 932 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 10: what I'm playing with. If I go with grade, then 933 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 10: I'm playing see is. But I go with like my 934 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 10: brother or something. I probably rolled like a one to 935 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 10: twenty just playing around. 936 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 7: Are you a are you a straight baller? Are you 937 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 7: able to to so you so you're a real bowler, 938 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,280 Speaker 7: then I've never become a real bowler. 939 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 4: Good. 940 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,720 Speaker 10: I'm pretty good. Every time I go home, we go bowling, 941 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 10: and you know, we we bet on push ups and 942 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:25,320 Speaker 10: stuff like that. 943 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 8: Have you ever broken two hundred? 944 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 12: Nah? I never broken two hundred. 945 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 7: So back in my day, I'm an old man. Back 946 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 7: in my day, right after college, I was living in Atlanta. 947 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,280 Speaker 7: I actually playing a bowling league with Big Boy of Outcasts, 948 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 7: which is another story for their parts that sorty right, 949 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 7: we can't share this interview. Oh yeah, for my big boy, 950 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 7: so he was down there. I got to a point 951 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 7: and I only threw it straight, never occurved nothing. And 952 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 7: I got to a point where I was averaging about 953 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:50,879 Speaker 7: one fifty is a straight ball, which was pretty good. 954 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 7: And I one day, one time broke two hundred one 955 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,359 Speaker 7: time only never sniffed it again. And now like now 956 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 7: like one thirty, and I'm like, okay, that was okay, naw, that's. 957 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 4: Cool, you know, not horrible. 958 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 8: That's average. 959 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 12: I mean it's cool, pretty good. 960 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 8: Two hundred excellent, Yeah, two hundreds. 961 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 7: Legit my great uncle true story. My great uncle had 962 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 7: two three hundreds, two perfect games. He was like a 963 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 7: legit bowler. 964 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 14: I've never seen anybody bowl to three hundred with my own. 965 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 14: I've never seen it either, No way, I never seen it. 966 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:22,840 Speaker 14: Makes it in the newspaper. You both thre hundred that 967 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 14: you get? Yeah, yeah, the old uncle Steve love that. 968 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 14: There he is wherever he's watching us from. All Right, 969 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 14: you're talking pool, who's the best pull player? 970 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 12: Me? 971 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 10: I would probably say me, Yeah, I'll probably say me 972 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 10: or Denzel. 973 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 8: Denzel like a sheer, like a pool shark out there. 974 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,839 Speaker 10: I really just got into the game. But I beat 975 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 10: them so multiple times all the time, honestly, So to. 976 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:47,319 Speaker 8: Be the man, you gotta beat the man. 977 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 6: He'd been pretty good. 978 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:48,799 Speaker 4: He pretty good. 979 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 8: Do you guys always play one on one or do 980 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 8: you guys play teams. 981 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,399 Speaker 12: To play teams, and we play one on one as well. 982 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 7: All eight ball what eight ball like the normal normally normal, Yeah, 983 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 7: eight ball. Nine was also a very nine ball is 984 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,360 Speaker 7: a very good game as well. That's a better like 985 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 7: if you have three people or one on one, so 986 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 7: nine ball, like you can you have to hit them 987 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 7: in an order, so you have to hit the one 988 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 7: in then the two. But you as long as you 989 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 7: contact whatever ball's up first, like you could hit let's 990 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:15,800 Speaker 7: say you could hit the one into the nine and 991 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,919 Speaker 7: make the nine, you'd win right there. But you can't 992 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 7: go after the nine ball unless you hit whatever ball 993 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 7: it is first, So like you have to play an 994 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 7: or so like the strategy of where you leave it, 995 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 7: and then there's a lot of scratches if you don't 996 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:25,880 Speaker 7: hit it. 997 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,919 Speaker 12: Yeah, six and if I hate the six and nine, 998 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 12: and I went. 999 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,319 Speaker 7: If you hit the six first, but if you hit yeah, 1000 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,840 Speaker 7: but if you hit like the seven and then it 1001 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,800 Speaker 7: hit the nine in, that's it. 1002 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,439 Speaker 8: Good night. I ran I might try to a little 1003 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 8: bit of skill a little skill game. 1004 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 13: I like. 1005 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 8: So you guys all right, m J always a pleasure man, Yes, 1006 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 8: they're always. 1007 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 5: That's gonna wrap up our one of Cleveland Brown's Daily 1008 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 5: Coming up next, tight End Harrison Bryant. 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From Mini Camp week, 1018 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 5: tight end Harrison Bryant gets lost in the conversation maybe 1019 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 5: with Jordan Nakens and obviously David Nijoku, but a gentleman 1020 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 5: getting ready for year number four and he could be 1021 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,400 Speaker 5: a big one for the young tight end. Here's his 1022 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 5: thoughts on the off season with our Nathan Zigura. 1023 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 7: Here with Brown's now fourth year tight end, Harrison Bryan Harrison, 1024 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,439 Speaker 7: I feel like it was just yesterday you were coming 1025 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:51,759 Speaker 7: in as a rookie of flies man. 1026 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 13: Yeah, going into my fourth year, the first three year 1027 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,839 Speaker 13: as a flowing bob, but excited to get a year 1028 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:57,319 Speaker 13: four going. 1029 00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,360 Speaker 8: How's kind of this off season been for you? 1030 00:43:59,440 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 6: So far? 1031 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:00,399 Speaker 4: Great? 1032 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,839 Speaker 13: Got a lot of stuff going on in my personal life. 1033 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 4: How to get married? 1034 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 8: Congratulations? 1035 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:05,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you, Bud. 1036 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,800 Speaker 13: It's uh, it's a lot of excitement and I'm just 1037 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,239 Speaker 13: ready to, you know, finally get into a routine a 1038 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 13: football and training camp. 1039 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 8: So ready to go when you get married June twenty fourth, right, 1040 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,319 Speaker 8: and that little dead period I wear it uh in. 1041 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,320 Speaker 13: Dallas, Texas, So using that dead period. Uh, we planned 1042 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,360 Speaker 13: it obviously for that reason. But excited, uh, ready to 1043 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 13: get it done with. 1044 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 8: They need to get well, you're thrilled to get it going. Yeah, yeah, 1045 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:30,279 Speaker 8: if you get it started, we'll say to get it 1046 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 8: started for X. They We're thrilled to get it started. 1047 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:33,400 Speaker 8: Do you get the honeymoon or are you able to 1048 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:34,440 Speaker 8: get that in as well? 1049 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:35,359 Speaker 4: Where he is going. 1050 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 13: We're head of the Saint Lucia a few days after, so, uh, 1051 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,760 Speaker 13: nice little relaxation before training camp starts. 1052 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 7: Head to the Greenbrier. You're gonna be a vacation all 1053 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 7: over town. There's no vacation at the Greenbrier that we 1054 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 7: know that, all right, So what's the OTA's Obviously, you 1055 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 7: know you've gotten a lot of reps, been able to 1056 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 7: work with the sean. How's that chemistry coming along? And 1057 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 7: you know, how do you feel kind of about maybe 1058 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 7: some of the evolutions that you're seeing out there? 1059 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:54,359 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1060 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 13: I think, uh, I mean we've had ten OTA practices 1061 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,800 Speaker 13: now we're about to have three mini camp practices. I 1062 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,719 Speaker 13: think we've really grown as an offense in those ten practices, 1063 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,840 Speaker 13: not only connection between quarterback and pass catchers, but just 1064 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 13: as a whole team just being able to get out 1065 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,839 Speaker 13: and get together. And I think it's been a really 1066 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 13: successful ten days. Just continue to build on those. In 1067 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,280 Speaker 13: these last three days, it's. 1068 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 7: Been like being able to get some trips away so 1069 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 7: that you guys are able to kind of build that 1070 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 7: chemistry and then be able to bring that back here. 1071 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:20,240 Speaker 8: Tabria. 1072 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,359 Speaker 13: Yeah, it's always good to hang out with the guys 1073 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,839 Speaker 13: away from the building because you know, some guys open 1074 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 13: up a little more. I mean, everyone's real professional in here, 1075 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 13: but it's good to get out and have certain conversations 1076 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,720 Speaker 13: that aren't directly correlated to football. 1077 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,799 Speaker 8: So it's always good. Do you see a difference into 1078 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:35,719 Speaker 8: Shan so far this year. 1079 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, obviously everyone knows the extremely talented, but 1080 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 13: just seeing that that comfort of having a full, you know, 1081 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 13: off season, of knowing a certain playbook and throwing with 1082 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:46,479 Speaker 13: certain guys. 1083 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 4: So it's been good so far. 1084 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 7: Do you feel like you've sensed kind of an evolution 1085 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 7: two of the offense and now what it will be 1086 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:52,800 Speaker 7: with the Shaune at quarterback? 1087 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:54,439 Speaker 8: You could say that, yeah. 1088 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,800 Speaker 13: I mean obviously you played six games last year, so 1089 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,359 Speaker 13: you kind of got a taste of what coach Defan 1090 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 13: skin and he wanted to do with it. But uh, 1091 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,839 Speaker 13: I think he's just going to continue to grow into 1092 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 13: what they want. And obviously he's extremely talented. So this 1093 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,239 Speaker 13: sky's the limit and. 1094 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 7: A lot of new weapons as well. And we've seen 1095 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,439 Speaker 7: Marquis good and we seen Elijah in your room, Jordan 1096 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 7: Akins has come in. It feels like this has an 1097 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,760 Speaker 7: offense as the chance to put a lot of points. 1098 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:17,879 Speaker 4: On the board. 1099 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 13: Yeah, a lot of talented guys we've added to are 1100 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 13: you know the offensive skill room Like you said, Elijah, Marquise, Jordan, 1101 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,000 Speaker 13: this is some talented guys and a lot of speed too, 1102 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,880 Speaker 13: which is never a bad thing. So, you know, speed kills, 1103 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,840 Speaker 13: and that's always good to have. More the more the 1104 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 13: Marris speed on your team is great. 1105 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,880 Speaker 8: Do you think people understand how helpful is that. 1106 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 7: Let's call it Marquis and we've seen him catch a 1107 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 7: couple of long balls, but sometimes let's say he runs 1108 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,480 Speaker 7: those clear outs and he doesn't get the ball. How 1109 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 7: much more space that creates for especially in your room 1110 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 7: to operate in the middle of the field. 1111 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,280 Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, the one thing you can't coach his speed, obviously, 1112 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,920 Speaker 13: and one factor that scares a lot of defensive players 1113 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,439 Speaker 13: and defensive coordinators his speed, and you know, only seeing 1114 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 13: him before a few days. One of the more impressive 1115 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,160 Speaker 13: things is how great his ball skills are. 1116 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 8: Usually, you know, that is no good if you can 1117 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 8: run but you can't catch it. You gotta catch. 1118 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 13: It's a lot of guys that have speed but don't 1119 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 13: have the tracking ability and stuff. And that's what I 1120 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,880 Speaker 13: think makes Tyreek Kill so talented. It's because how good 1121 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 13: his ball skills are. Obviously he's fast and talented, but 1122 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,319 Speaker 13: his ball skills are great. And you know, Marquis's ball 1123 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,800 Speaker 13: skills are really impressive too, so that I'm excited to 1124 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:19,759 Speaker 13: see him get going more. 1125 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:21,760 Speaker 7: Did you like getting a little bit of like an 1126 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 7: ota viral moment or they're like Harrison Brian's out here 1127 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 7: putting guys on skates where you're in that little jerk, right, 1128 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 7: you like that. 1129 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 13: I didn't even see it until actually my fiance she's 1130 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:30,719 Speaker 13: sent it to me. She was like, oh, and I 1131 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,680 Speaker 13: was like, I don't on social media trying to get 1132 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,839 Speaker 13: involved in any of that stuff, and just just look 1133 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,279 Speaker 13: at the I'm a funny meme guy on Instagram and Twitter, 1134 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,959 Speaker 13: so great stay away from the football stuff. 1135 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:43,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely. 1136 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,640 Speaker 7: So when you think about this journey you've been on, 1137 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,399 Speaker 7: kind of what's the thing that you've been the most 1138 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,359 Speaker 7: proud of in your time here with the Browns. 1139 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:54,799 Speaker 13: I would say obviously we had a great first year 1140 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 13: and then to losing seasons up hopefully finish it on 1141 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 13: a winning season a great season. But I would say 1142 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 13: more so just the way I've went about my business 1143 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:08,080 Speaker 13: and the availability I've provided. And obviously there's plays you 1144 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,560 Speaker 13: always want back and stuff, but that's part of football 1145 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 13: and I'm just looking to continue to grow and be 1146 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:13,480 Speaker 13: available this season. 1147 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:14,440 Speaker 8: So I'm excited. 1148 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, I feel like there's gonna be a lot of 1149 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 7: opportunity this season. I think this is a season of 1150 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 7: where you mentioned it, there's urgency, there's pressure. This is 1151 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,520 Speaker 7: you look around this football team and you're gonna see it. 1152 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,719 Speaker 7: You know, a mini camp today, there's a talented raster 1153 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 7: with talent where you need the talent. This is a 1154 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,360 Speaker 7: time for this team to be very good and I 1155 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:30,920 Speaker 7: think opportunities for you to be a big part of 1156 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:32,319 Speaker 7: this team being very good. 1157 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 13: Yeah, like you said, uh, it's a lot of I mean, 1158 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,040 Speaker 13: I wouldn't say pressure, but there's definitely a lot of 1159 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 13: urgency in the building and offensively, defensively, everyone knows we 1160 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,360 Speaker 13: got to get it right cause, like on paper, it 1161 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 13: doesn't matter how good the team is. You got to 1162 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,920 Speaker 13: go out there and perform and every week you can 1163 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,440 Speaker 13: be beaten, no matter if it's what people would say 1164 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:50,879 Speaker 13: is the worst team in the league or the best team. 1165 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,919 Speaker 13: You got to go out and perform. And it takes 1166 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,320 Speaker 13: all eleven dudes at the same time coming together and 1167 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:56,880 Speaker 13: making play. So that's what we're trying to do. 1168 00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 7: This is very much a passing camp, so you're not 1169 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:00,400 Speaker 7: gonna get to see everything, like the way that the 1170 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:01,719 Speaker 7: d line is going to react to a lot of 1171 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,719 Speaker 7: things when you get the pads on later on. But 1172 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 7: what have you seen kind of from this defense that 1173 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,319 Speaker 7: Jim Schwartz is ushering out there, and how it's going 1174 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,239 Speaker 7: to maybe affected the play of the second and the 1175 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:09,799 Speaker 7: third levels. 1176 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 13: Like you said, it's been real passing camp, but just 1177 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,120 Speaker 13: hearing some of the coaches talk about it and here 1178 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 13: actually Coach Schwartz describe it. It's a really attack defense 1179 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 13: and they added a lot of additions to D Lion 1180 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 13: and it's really exciting to see because going into a 1181 00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,440 Speaker 13: week and you're doing this, scoutter important and if you 1182 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:31,000 Speaker 13: know a D Lion is good, it's a tough week. 1183 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,680 Speaker 13: So I'm really excited about all the guys they added 1184 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,400 Speaker 13: in there and just ready to see them attack and 1185 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 13: just play with that intensity that Coach Schwartz springs. 1186 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:38,760 Speaker 4: So I'm excited. 1187 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:40,520 Speaker 7: Most people think, probably when they think about a team 1188 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,800 Speaker 7: that's gonna have guys off the edge, like Miles Zadarius 1189 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,760 Speaker 7: Obo we drafted Isaiah Maguire. Alex writes back, Isaiah Thomas, 1190 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:47,920 Speaker 7: you know they always think all the tackles must be 1191 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,200 Speaker 7: nurse well. Tight ends often find themselves mix up with 1192 00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,719 Speaker 7: those guys, So that's o the tight end rooms around 1193 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:54,319 Speaker 7: the league, and like. 1194 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,120 Speaker 13: Yeah, especially in our offense because coach defense, he's not 1195 00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 13: afraid to throw us over there and try to see 1196 00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 13: what we can do blocking him or chipping him or whatever. 1197 00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:06,239 Speaker 4: But you know, I mean watching film for the week 1198 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:06,920 Speaker 4: and you watch. 1199 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,640 Speaker 13: Myles Garrett and Darry Smith as a tight end, you're 1200 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,600 Speaker 13: hoping you got a lot of backside cutoffs. So it's 1201 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,040 Speaker 13: definitely something that teams are going to be thinking about 1202 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:16,360 Speaker 13: and obviously having the game plan for. 1203 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 7: Have you ever had to watch out for a defensive 1204 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,640 Speaker 7: coordinator if you're running like a real shallow drag and 1205 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:22,239 Speaker 7: make sure you don't run him over when he's out 1206 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 7: there in the middle of the play. 1207 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,400 Speaker 13: No, but obviously coach Forts have been out there, but 1208 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,080 Speaker 13: he stays out of the way. But I haven't really 1209 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,560 Speaker 13: got to talk to him, but you've heard him. 1210 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:31,839 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1211 00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,080 Speaker 13: I love high intensity guys, So I think it's great 1212 00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,960 Speaker 13: for our team and you know, get some juices fun 1213 00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:37,440 Speaker 13: for everyone. 1214 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,080 Speaker 8: All right, Harrison, We appreciate the time. 1215 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,880 Speaker 7: Congratulations on the joy of your marriage coming up, have 1216 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:44,640 Speaker 7: a great honeymoon, and then we'll see you back here 1217 00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,319 Speaker 7: for at the Greenbrier for Trank him. 1218 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:47,840 Speaker 8: Get going, man, appreciate it. Thank you. 1219 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,799 Speaker 5: Break time for us here on Cleveland Browns Daily. When 1220 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:55,280 Speaker 5: we return, you'll hear from second year defensive end Isaiah Thomas. 1221 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,799 Speaker 5: This is Cleveland Brown's Daily, brought to you by Balley Bet, 1222 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,480 Speaker 5: a sports betting partner of your Cleveland Brown's Coming soon 1223 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,720 Speaker 5: to Ohio on eight to fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1224 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,200 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally Bett, Coming 1225 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,840 Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight to fifty ESPN, Cleveland. 1226 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,799 Speaker 5: Welcome back to a special edition of Cleveland Browns Daily 1227 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,719 Speaker 5: on eight to fifty ESPN Cleveland, where, of course, brought 1228 00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,120 Speaker 5: to you by Bally Bett, a sports betting partner of 1229 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,960 Speaker 5: your Cleveland Browns Coming soon to Ohio. I'm Jason Gibbs, 1230 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,759 Speaker 5: playing some interviews that we put in the can during 1231 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,600 Speaker 5: Mini camp week, saving for a day like today. A 1232 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,200 Speaker 5: lot of good content here, a lot of good material. 1233 00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,520 Speaker 5: You're really gonna like this one. Next that defensive end room, 1234 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,160 Speaker 5: there's a lot of bodies in there. But don't fall 1235 00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 5: asleep on our two defensive ends that we drafted a 1236 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,400 Speaker 5: year ago at this time Alex Right and this interview 1237 00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 5: with defensive end Isaiah Thomas, Isaiah. 1238 00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:54,839 Speaker 8: Great to see man. 1239 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:55,239 Speaker 4: How you been. 1240 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,120 Speaker 8: I've been doing good. Yeah, I had a good offseason. 1241 00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 15: I've been up here, you know since about when we 1242 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,759 Speaker 15: had report when we had the first report back, and 1243 00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:03,279 Speaker 15: I've been you know, getting a lot off season working. 1244 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,920 Speaker 15: Feel like I'm getting stronger, definitely more explosive, and you know, 1245 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:07,400 Speaker 15: I think I've been making the most you know, going 1246 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:07,960 Speaker 15: into year two. 1247 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,320 Speaker 7: When you look back on that rookieyear, here are in 1248 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,840 Speaker 7: some big moments. Yeah, he had some big plays. What 1249 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,400 Speaker 7: do you take away from that rookie season. 1250 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,479 Speaker 15: Uh, you know, I was definitely I surprised myself at times, 1251 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,320 Speaker 15: you know, not in the sense of the plays that 1252 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,320 Speaker 15: I've made, but you know, the opportunities that I was 1253 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,359 Speaker 15: given and to be able to make those plays, if 1254 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,880 Speaker 15: that makes sense. Definitely, I want to build off those 1255 00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,280 Speaker 15: big plays that I made, you know, be more consistent 1256 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:32,000 Speaker 15: and be impactful. You know, seventeen eighteen games throughout this season, 1257 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 15: you know, instead of you know, five, six or seven 1258 00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:33,920 Speaker 15: of them. 1259 00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:34,839 Speaker 6: But you know, it was good. 1260 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,400 Speaker 15: It was good experience, you know, and I think for 1261 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,759 Speaker 15: me a seventh round pick, to have the year that 1262 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,200 Speaker 15: I had and you know, to be able to have 1263 00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,319 Speaker 15: those opportunities. I think I can definitely build off those 1264 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:43,839 Speaker 15: and you know, just keep you know, my head going 1265 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 15: down and going forward. 1266 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 7: You're so productive in college, right, and so you say, okay, 1267 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,239 Speaker 7: get seventh round and then you come out and then 1268 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,600 Speaker 7: you're a productive here able to get to the quarterback. 1269 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,480 Speaker 7: That's why you were drafted. Did that make you feel 1270 00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,040 Speaker 7: like all right, yeah, like I blank, it doesn't matter 1271 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:56,360 Speaker 7: where you're drafted once you're here, by the way, it 1272 00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:57,000 Speaker 7: doesn't matter at all. 1273 00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:57,879 Speaker 8: Yeah, one hundred percent. 1274 00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:59,319 Speaker 15: Yeah, like you said, you know, those plays I made 1275 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,680 Speaker 15: in college and transitioning to the NFL. Then my to 1276 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 15: my very first preseason game last year against Jacksonville, had 1277 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:07,120 Speaker 15: two sacks through TfL Oh. 1278 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:08,680 Speaker 7: I remember that was my first game in the booth, 1279 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,080 Speaker 7: I said Isaiah Thomson. M j Emerson would have picked 1280 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:12,400 Speaker 7: the rookie showing out baby, let's go. 1281 00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,160 Speaker 8: Yeah exactly. So, you know, like you said, with. 1282 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,680 Speaker 15: Those type of players, you know, definitely from the first 1283 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,640 Speaker 15: day of that preseason game, I said to myself, I 1284 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,520 Speaker 15: belong here. Then you know, I had my moments in 1285 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 15: the regular season to where that that showed you know 1286 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:23,800 Speaker 15: that it wasn't a fluke and you know, that I 1287 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,759 Speaker 15: belong here and that you know, giving the right chance, 1288 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,360 Speaker 15: the right opportunity, and along with myself with the right preparation, 1289 00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:29,719 Speaker 15: you know, I'll be in this league for a very 1290 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:30,120 Speaker 15: long time. 1291 00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,080 Speaker 7: You know what I love is that you know, you 1292 00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:33,839 Speaker 7: work so hard. You played obviously the big time college, 1293 00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,480 Speaker 7: you worked so hard to get to the NFL, and 1294 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,440 Speaker 7: you're still like excited about what you did. I saw 1295 00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,600 Speaker 7: the kind of display those put together for your first sack, 1296 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:42,440 Speaker 7: Like that's cool to me, Like, that's awesome, that's something. 1297 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,400 Speaker 7: Nobody can ever take that away from you. Under the 1298 00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,040 Speaker 7: bright lights. You went out there and got it done 1299 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:47,840 Speaker 7: for sure. Yeah, like you said, can't nobody take that 1300 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:49,520 Speaker 7: moment away from me? I mean, I remember when I 1301 00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,960 Speaker 7: got that sack. What was it Thursday night football? If 1302 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:53,040 Speaker 7: I'm not mistaken on Halloween. 1303 00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:53,880 Speaker 8: It was Monday night. 1304 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,680 Speaker 7: It was Joe Burrow baby, Yes, come on, a nice 1305 00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:58,120 Speaker 7: Browns win, if I recall. 1306 00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,840 Speaker 15: And it was a moment that, like you said, that 1307 00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:01,400 Speaker 15: came be taken away. And as soon as I got 1308 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,040 Speaker 15: that sack, you know, the guys like you got to 1309 00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:04,680 Speaker 15: get that jersey after the game and get it framed 1310 00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,440 Speaker 15: and whatnot. Then you know, brad Our Equipment Management. He 1311 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:08,799 Speaker 15: got a frame for me and what now, I got 1312 00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,000 Speaker 15: it hanging in my at my house and whatnot. So 1313 00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:12,960 Speaker 15: it was a special moment and I want to have 1314 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,240 Speaker 15: plenty more of those moments coming up. It's a great motivation, 1315 00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:16,759 Speaker 15: right every time you see say I know I can 1316 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:18,719 Speaker 15: do this, let's go do more of us? Oh yeah, 1317 00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,279 Speaker 15: one hundred percent. And with the guys that we have 1318 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,120 Speaker 15: in that D line room and with the coach that 1319 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:23,520 Speaker 15: we have, you know as a DC and our D 1320 00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,160 Speaker 15: line coach, those those opportunities will definitely come up again. 1321 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,840 Speaker 15: You know, they preach sacks, you know, sacks, TFLs, you know, takeaways, 1322 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:30,399 Speaker 15: and those moments will definitely come again. 1323 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 8: So me being the way that I know I can play, 1324 00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,120 Speaker 8: I know I can have many more of those moments. 1325 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,279 Speaker 7: Hey, talk about that room. Let's talk about it for 1326 00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,880 Speaker 7: a second. Miles Garrett, you bring in Zadarius Smith, Obo yourself, Alex, right, Like, 1327 00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:41,960 Speaker 7: that's a loaded group and I bet they're a part. 1328 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,080 Speaker 7: There are times when you could have five d ns 1329 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 7: on the field together in this defense. 1330 00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:47,759 Speaker 15: Yeah, like you said, we got some special guys and 1331 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,080 Speaker 15: there's some vets obviously in Miles and Zadarius you know, 1332 00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 15: some pro bowlers, some all Pro players, and obviously with 1333 00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:56,240 Speaker 15: me myself and with Alex Wright and along with Obo. 1334 00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,479 Speaker 15: You know, I played one year with him at ou 1335 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,680 Speaker 15: his senior year was my freshman year. He was a 1336 00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,839 Speaker 15: Big twelve defensive Player of the Year that year man, 1337 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,359 Speaker 15: So I not well know what he's capable of doing. 1338 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,359 Speaker 15: And just to be able to have that talent out there, 1339 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:08,759 Speaker 15: you know, there's no excuse for us not to be 1340 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,400 Speaker 15: able to get to the pastor this year and to 1341 00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,319 Speaker 15: be the most productive unit on this team. 1342 00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,360 Speaker 8: When you have guys like that you have familiarity with, 1343 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:16,200 Speaker 8: how much does that help? 1344 00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:16,320 Speaker 4: You know? 1345 00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,640 Speaker 7: I was just talking to Alex Wright and Zadarius Smith 1346 00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,080 Speaker 7: grew up an hour away from in Alabama. 1347 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:21,520 Speaker 8: He's watching them his whole life. For you to have 1348 00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,880 Speaker 8: kind of that relationship, what's that like? No, it's a 1349 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:24,239 Speaker 8: big deal. 1350 00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,560 Speaker 15: And you know, team chemistry and that culture, that's what 1351 00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,240 Speaker 15: you know. People really don't understand how much that is valued, 1352 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,000 Speaker 15: you know, because you can have a super team, you know, 1353 00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,080 Speaker 15: quote unquote, and you know, have as many guys you 1354 00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,360 Speaker 15: want that played at a high level at some point. 1355 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:36,640 Speaker 8: In their career. 1356 00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:37,960 Speaker 15: But if they don't have that chemistry and if they 1357 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,160 Speaker 15: don't mold well together, I mean, none of that matters. 1358 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,480 Speaker 15: And for us to have those relationships with Alex and Zadarius, 1359 00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,080 Speaker 15: me and Obo, Miles been here for a while I think, 1360 00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,040 Speaker 15: but seven seven years now going in and for him 1361 00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:49,879 Speaker 15: to have that comfortability to be that leader and there's 1362 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,799 Speaker 15: mold us all together, that's a that's a big deal 1363 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,320 Speaker 15: and it's going to be a big part of our success. 1364 00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:54,680 Speaker 7: You know. What I like about it too is that 1365 00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:58,640 Speaker 7: you've got you know, Miles and obviously Zadarius. They they 1366 00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,000 Speaker 7: have the accolades, They've done it right at a high level. 1367 00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:04,120 Speaker 7: Obo's here trying to prove himself. You're trying to prove yourself. 1368 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,120 Speaker 7: Alex Wright is trying to prove himself. So you've got 1369 00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,400 Speaker 7: kind of a mix of the very established and then 1370 00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,200 Speaker 7: guys who have a lot of talent who are on 1371 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:11,719 Speaker 7: the ascent. So is that kind of fun of you 1372 00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:13,759 Speaker 7: kind of found like a little pocket like where Obo 1373 00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,680 Speaker 7: because he signed his deal, but I'm sure he's saying like, look, 1374 00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,080 Speaker 7: I want to go be a double digitsacked guy. 1375 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,239 Speaker 15: Yeah, for sure, and be able to see guys like 1376 00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,560 Speaker 15: guys just have proved themselves and guys that are not 1377 00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,440 Speaker 15: that wants to prove themselves. You know, guys right that 1378 00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,560 Speaker 15: mix as far as Obo's, you know, like you said, 1379 00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,480 Speaker 15: he signed that deal, but he still has something to prove. 1380 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,239 Speaker 15: And to see guys as hungry as they are as 1381 00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,400 Speaker 15: if they didn't sign the deals that they have, you know, 1382 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:34,520 Speaker 15: you know, it's nothing but motivation to be able to 1383 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,080 Speaker 15: have as a second year player going into this league. 1384 00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,480 Speaker 8: Like to see a guy as humble as Miles and 1385 00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:40,279 Speaker 8: as humble as. 1386 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,719 Speaker 15: Obo, to have the career that they've had this far 1387 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,080 Speaker 15: and to still say to themselves that they've done nothing 1388 00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:46,879 Speaker 15: and that we've accomplished nothing. 1389 00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,440 Speaker 8: It makes you excited. I'm getting excited talking about it. Man, 1390 00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:49,839 Speaker 8: I'm ready. 1391 00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:50,480 Speaker 4: I love it. 1392 00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:51,840 Speaker 7: What did you say is the biggest difference in you 1393 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,600 Speaker 7: standing here today than you were exactly one year ago 1394 00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:55,839 Speaker 7: going into your rookie mini camp. 1395 00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:57,880 Speaker 15: I'd say confidence one hundred percent. I mean, you can 1396 00:56:57,960 --> 00:56:59,960 Speaker 15: have as much confidence as you can your rookie year 1397 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,520 Speaker 15: going into you know, a community camp preseason. But you 1398 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,000 Speaker 15: know the business part of it gets you know, get 1399 00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:05,680 Speaker 15: caught up, get gets in your head a little bit, 1400 00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,839 Speaker 15: you know, like like dang, like do I belong here? 1401 00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:08,680 Speaker 4: Or do they want me here? 1402 00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:10,759 Speaker 8: Do they think I belong here or whatnot? Like you know, 1403 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:11,880 Speaker 8: am I ready for this stage? 1404 00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,560 Speaker 15: And then after you get that year under your belt, 1405 00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,239 Speaker 15: you're like, oh, yeah, like I belong here, you know, 1406 00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,720 Speaker 15: Like I said that to myself, like I mentioned earlier 1407 00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:20,120 Speaker 15: in that preseason game, but then after that sacked and 1408 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,640 Speaker 15: after that whole year was done, it like established to me, 1409 00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,840 Speaker 15: like yeah, I really belong here, Like I'm not gonna 1410 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:26,520 Speaker 15: let this opportunity to get away from it regardless of 1411 00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:27,200 Speaker 15: what comes my way. 1412 00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,240 Speaker 7: One thing that things has to be exciting is a 1413 00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,640 Speaker 7: defensive end in this defense, and we'll talk about kind 1414 00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,640 Speaker 7: of the schematics of it is that you know, if 1415 00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,000 Speaker 7: you're up, you're going to play. You guys are gonna 1416 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:37,800 Speaker 7: be rotating, everybody's gonna be fresh, and it is going 1417 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:41,040 Speaker 7: to be an attack mentality. So you know, you make 1418 00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,120 Speaker 7: this team, you get up on game days, you are 1419 00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:44,480 Speaker 7: gonna play, and you're gonna be a chance to rust 1420 00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:44,800 Speaker 7: the passer. 1421 00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,200 Speaker 15: Yeah, And they told us that, like Bloom and the sorts, 1422 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,000 Speaker 15: they told us that, like we're rolling guys like you know, 1423 00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:49,800 Speaker 15: saying four or five. 1424 00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:50,439 Speaker 6: You know, we're rolling. 1425 00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,360 Speaker 15: We know, we want guys fresh, we want guys attacking 1426 00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:55,240 Speaker 15: one hundred percent, you know, one hundred percent effort. And 1427 00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,040 Speaker 15: when those moments come where certain guys got to be 1428 00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:58,480 Speaker 15: in the at a certain time, those guys would be in. 1429 00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:00,880 Speaker 15: But other other than that, guys are going to play. 1430 00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:02,560 Speaker 15: If you're up, be ready, like there's none of that. 1431 00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:04,720 Speaker 15: You know, maybe you might get it, maybe not if 1432 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:06,040 Speaker 15: you got that helmet on your head. I'm sure the 1433 00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:07,440 Speaker 15: pads on on game day and be ready, you know, 1434 00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:08,520 Speaker 15: get on your p's and q's. 1435 00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, and we're gonna have five ends up. I mean, 1436 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,000 Speaker 7: that's the way that this d is gonna be. I 1437 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:13,800 Speaker 7: think people got to get used to. It's gonna be fast, 1438 00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:15,240 Speaker 7: and it's gonna be attacking. And I'm sure for you 1439 00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,480 Speaker 7: that's fun. Oh no, that's definitely fun for me. 1440 00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,600 Speaker 15: And the defense that Swartz introduced, you know, it was exciting, 1441 00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,360 Speaker 15: you know, you know, watering at the mouth whenever you 1442 00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,200 Speaker 15: see the type of schemes that he has drawn up 1443 00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,560 Speaker 15: for us to be able to just attack, to be 1444 00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,640 Speaker 15: able to just attack, you know, stay on your line 1445 00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,600 Speaker 15: and you know, mess stuff up, you know, you know, 1446 00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:33,640 Speaker 15: to have a a PG you version of it to 1447 00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:35,440 Speaker 15: mess suff up whatever comes in your way. So you know, 1448 00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:37,120 Speaker 15: that's exciting to know that you just got to get 1449 00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:38,800 Speaker 15: off and attack whatever's coming in front of you. I mean, 1450 00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:40,880 Speaker 15: what else can you ask for? What have you seen 1451 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:41,320 Speaker 15: so far? 1452 00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,960 Speaker 7: This defense had some moments obviously in the OTA's the 1453 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:45,480 Speaker 7: offense has had some moments. What have you seen kind 1454 00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,320 Speaker 7: of the changes in this offense? Now you got to 1455 00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,280 Speaker 7: Shane here for the full off season knowing that he's 1456 00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:51,960 Speaker 7: going to be there game one and kind of the 1457 00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:52,720 Speaker 7: command he's taken. 1458 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,400 Speaker 15: Yes, what I noticed in the difference I've seen in 1459 00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,640 Speaker 15: the offense is like, you know, like less wonders on 1460 00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,480 Speaker 15: you know, how are we gonna adjust when the Shawn 1461 00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:02,120 Speaker 15: comes back, or how are we going to just took 1462 00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,280 Speaker 15: a certain quarterback then whenever if he goes down, then 1463 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:06,840 Speaker 15: what if we got to adjust again? You know, the 1464 00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,040 Speaker 15: certainty that we have with Deshaun coming into the season 1465 00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,280 Speaker 15: as far as offensive perspective, it helps out a lot. 1466 00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,800 Speaker 15: You know, it eliminates a lot of the questions as 1467 00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:15,000 Speaker 15: far as you know, what are we going to go 1468 00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:15,760 Speaker 15: into this week with? 1469 00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:17,360 Speaker 8: You know, what players are we going to on? What 1470 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:18,480 Speaker 8: type of what are we going to see? 1471 00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:20,560 Speaker 15: Even as far as us defensively, like we know the 1472 00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:22,400 Speaker 15: Shawn's that quarterback when we go out to go out 1473 00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,360 Speaker 15: there at practice, so be on the lookout for this, 1474 00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,160 Speaker 15: this and this, like be ready for expected. So just 1475 00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:28,800 Speaker 15: thats certainty of what this offense is going to be 1476 00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:30,160 Speaker 15: like and who we're going to have back there under 1477 00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:31,560 Speaker 15: the center's going to it's going to help us out 1478 00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:31,760 Speaker 15: a lot. 1479 00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:33,800 Speaker 7: So I don't know if it's seven on seven anymore, 1480 00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,600 Speaker 7: because I've never seen seven on sevens like this where 1481 00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:37,120 Speaker 7: you got the center of the two guards. We've got 1482 00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:38,600 Speaker 7: the two ends out there and you guys are just 1483 00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:40,840 Speaker 7: like in a race to get back there. 1484 00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:42,600 Speaker 8: Is that time? Are they charting who's winning those? 1485 00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:43,360 Speaker 3: And what is that? 1486 00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,240 Speaker 8: Okay, how are you doing in that? You're like got 1487 00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:45,920 Speaker 8: a nice get off? 1488 00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:47,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, So the. 1489 00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,360 Speaker 15: Ends, we've only got to do it one time this far. 1490 00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,640 Speaker 15: I think the detackles have done it twice. I want 1491 00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,160 Speaker 15: to say me personally, I've went three times. 1492 00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:54,000 Speaker 8: I've won. 1493 00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:57,000 Speaker 15: Okay, so me and Alix went three times, I've won once. 1494 00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,320 Speaker 15: Legitimately A look jumped on one and now one, So 1495 01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:02,280 Speaker 15: that's two wins technically, what sounds like? 1496 01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:04,040 Speaker 8: So then did Alex want the last one. 1497 01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:06,280 Speaker 15: So but it's good, you know, like you said, like 1498 01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,280 Speaker 15: I said that the defense that sports has for us 1499 01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:10,040 Speaker 15: to be able to just get off and mess up 1500 01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,120 Speaker 15: with whatever is in front of us. I mean that translates, 1501 01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,440 Speaker 15: so you know, get off, take off, and you know 1502 01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:16,560 Speaker 15: whatever comes next, you know, we'll handle it with our 1503 01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:18,840 Speaker 15: physicality and technique. So that stuff helps us, and it 1504 01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:20,400 Speaker 15: translates for us to be able to just get off 1505 01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,520 Speaker 15: the ball and whatever whatever color that's not ours. 1506 01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:24,440 Speaker 8: And just you know, mess it up. 1507 01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,360 Speaker 7: So I feel like after your long lustrous career is over, 1508 01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:29,640 Speaker 7: you could easily be right now. I can Pictria as 1509 01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:33,160 Speaker 7: a coach at a podium or doing commentake Udea, I 1510 01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:34,120 Speaker 7: love it, love talking to you. 1511 01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:35,000 Speaker 8: No, yeah, I enjoy it. 1512 01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:36,080 Speaker 15: And it's funny you say that because me and my 1513 01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,000 Speaker 15: fiance talk about this all the time, like we'll be 1514 01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:40,400 Speaker 15: watching the NBA Finals, or we'll be watching the NFL 1515 01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,800 Speaker 15: game or whatnot during the season whenever that time, whenever 1516 01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,120 Speaker 15: we're not playing, and I'm saying the same things as 1517 01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,640 Speaker 15: a commentator saying, like like he got to be aware 1518 01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:49,600 Speaker 15: of this and whatever, then the commentator be on the 1519 01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:51,320 Speaker 15: lookout for this I'm like I'm telling you, honey, like 1520 01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,360 Speaker 15: I belong in that booth or just being a coach. 1521 01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,040 Speaker 15: You know, my major in college was a human relations 1522 01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,120 Speaker 15: and for me, I just translated into like the study 1523 01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:01,000 Speaker 15: of humans and just a psychological the psychological part of 1524 01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:02,560 Speaker 15: it and just how people are and just be able 1525 01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:04,520 Speaker 15: to communicate because I'm a people person, you know, I 1526 01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:05,680 Speaker 15: love to talk, you know what I'm saying. 1527 01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:07,120 Speaker 8: I'd like to show who I am and stuff. 1528 01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,520 Speaker 15: So definitely, if that career, you know, takes it in 1529 01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,120 Speaker 15: and ten plus years and hopefully I had the opportunity 1530 01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:13,560 Speaker 15: to coach it be in a booth somewhere, that would 1531 01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:13,880 Speaker 15: be awesome. 1532 01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:15,720 Speaker 7: Isaiah, always a pleasure talk to you, man. Good luck, 1533 01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:16,960 Speaker 7: Thank you, appreciation you all right. 1534 01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,960 Speaker 5: We hope you're enjoying this special edition of Cleveland Browns Daily. 1535 01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,160 Speaker 5: On this Friday. We'll take a quick break. When we 1536 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:27,120 Speaker 5: come back from the best podcast available shameless plug yours truly, 1537 01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:31,240 Speaker 5: Nathan Zigura Anthony Poisel, our senior staff writer. We break 1538 01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:34,600 Speaker 5: down all of mini camp week and the off season. 1539 01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,680 Speaker 5: You'll hear part one of that when we return on 1540 01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,000 Speaker 5: Cleveland Browns Daily. 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We hope you're 1548 01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:11,160 Speaker 5: enjoying this special Friday edition of Cleveland Browns Daily with 1549 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:16,560 Speaker 5: Isaiah Thomas, Harrison, Bryant, mj Emerson, defensive line coach Ben Bloom, 1550 01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,640 Speaker 5: and tight end coach TC McCartney. That's who you've heard 1551 01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:23,200 Speaker 5: from today so far. Time now for Part one from 1552 01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:26,600 Speaker 5: the best podcast available. Like and subscribe today, by the 1553 01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:29,560 Speaker 5: way to the best podcast available wherever you get your podcasts. 1554 01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:33,040 Speaker 5: Check out all of the episodes and there's fourteen of 1555 01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:37,320 Speaker 5: them with interviews with players, Dane Brugler, front office people, 1556 01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:41,000 Speaker 5: you name it. You want a little inside scoop on things, 1557 01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,800 Speaker 5: the best podcast available can do that. You can watch 1558 01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:48,520 Speaker 5: all the episodes YouTube dot com Slash Browns. Here's Yours 1559 01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:52,720 Speaker 5: Truly with Nathan Zigura and senior staff writer Anthony Poisel 1560 01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,800 Speaker 5: recapping Mini Camp and the off season. We hope you 1561 01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:59,040 Speaker 5: enjoy part one of the best podcast available here. Gentlemen, 1562 01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:03,040 Speaker 5: the off seat is officially over on to the Greenbrier 1563 01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,680 Speaker 5: and Training Camp twenty twenty three, but before that, let's 1564 01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,680 Speaker 5: put Mandatory Mini Camp to bed se girl. I will 1565 01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,880 Speaker 5: start with you one word to describe the Browns twenty 1566 01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,040 Speaker 5: twenty three Mandatory Mini Camp. 1567 01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:17,040 Speaker 8: Exciting. 1568 01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:20,480 Speaker 7: I was going to use a different word from the 1569 01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,360 Speaker 7: pre show, but then I thought the show believe it's 1570 01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:24,160 Speaker 7: all in one take. 1571 01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,120 Speaker 8: Yes, if we are, I can't use that word, so yeah. 1572 01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,000 Speaker 4: I would want we do not have to work like 1573 01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:32,040 Speaker 4: twenty hours putting this together? Why? Why exciting? 1574 01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:35,840 Speaker 7: This is a glorified passing camp, is what it is. 1575 01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,040 Speaker 7: And when you go through, and you know you asked 1576 01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:39,919 Speaker 7: me prior to Mini Caamp, what are the top five 1577 01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:42,560 Speaker 7: you know, things you want to see? Are questions that remain? 1578 01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:44,960 Speaker 7: And number one is Deshaun Watson. That's really what the 1579 01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,440 Speaker 7: season is about, right If Deshaun Watson. We know how 1580 01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:49,040 Speaker 7: good this roster is on both sides of the ball. 1581 01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:52,040 Speaker 7: So if Deshaun Watson can come back to or even 1582 01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,560 Speaker 7: be better than the guy in twenty twenty who led 1583 01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:57,160 Speaker 7: the league in passing. We are going to be formidable. 1584 01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:59,320 Speaker 7: We're a team that absolutely can win the AFC North. 1585 01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:01,120 Speaker 7: We're a team that solutely can win the AFCCEN, or 1586 01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:03,440 Speaker 7: a team that absolutely can win the Super Bowl. So 1587 01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,400 Speaker 7: I think a lot hinges on that. And while again 1588 01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:09,120 Speaker 7: this is seven on seven, the ball's not supposed to 1589 01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:12,880 Speaker 7: hit the ground much, it didn't, and he was throwing 1590 01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,920 Speaker 7: the ball with such confidence, such precision. Every player that 1591 01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,080 Speaker 7: I talked to was grinning from ear to ear, even 1592 01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:19,480 Speaker 7: on the defense, because they're like, we're not going to 1593 01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:22,040 Speaker 7: have to deal with him when it matters. The first 1594 01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,400 Speaker 7: day of mini camp, that red zone period where he 1595 01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,520 Speaker 7: threw nine touchdowns on ten passes was the best that 1596 01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:29,720 Speaker 7: we've seen here. Again, I understand people, well, it's a 1597 01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,760 Speaker 7: low bar, Okay, fine, that was elite. Alex Van Pelt 1598 01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,280 Speaker 7: has coached Aaron Rodgers. He thought that was elite and 1599 01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:37,600 Speaker 7: a lot of fun. Chad Osha has been around Tom Brady. 1600 01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:39,520 Speaker 7: He thought that was elite and a lot of fun. 1601 01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:42,160 Speaker 7: So we have people who have been around the quarterbacks 1602 01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:44,520 Speaker 7: that we've always aspired to have, and now I think 1603 01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:46,200 Speaker 7: we have a guy who has that kind of ability, 1604 01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:48,400 Speaker 7: and he showed it at this Mini camp. 1605 01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:50,160 Speaker 4: Poisel one word. 1606 01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,480 Speaker 16: Yeah, I will also use a synonym to Nathan's word, 1607 01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:54,880 Speaker 16: and that's encouraging. And it's for the same reasons. We 1608 01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:58,200 Speaker 16: saw Deshaun connect with just about every single receiver who's 1609 01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:00,600 Speaker 16: going to be at the top of that chart. That 1610 01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,040 Speaker 16: red zone seven on seven period that you were talking about, 1611 01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,200 Speaker 16: easily the best that we've seen him play out here 1612 01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:09,040 Speaker 16: and the best that we've seen on these practice fields. 1613 01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:10,680 Speaker 3: In a long time. 1614 01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:12,760 Speaker 16: And that is what you wanted to see. And yes, 1615 01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:15,200 Speaker 16: there were no pads, there were no contact. It is 1616 01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:18,360 Speaker 16: still June, and it was only three days of mini 1617 01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:21,919 Speaker 16: camp practices, but it really couldn't have looked that much better. 1618 01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:23,760 Speaker 16: And if you are a coach on this coaching staff 1619 01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:25,720 Speaker 16: and you want to see how much more comfortable to 1620 01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:28,240 Speaker 16: Sean looks, that is exactly what you wanted to see. 1621 01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:30,240 Speaker 8: And you know, the talk all week too has. 1622 01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:33,320 Speaker 16: Been DeShawn looks way more comfortable right now than he 1623 01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,160 Speaker 16: did at any point last year. And you can see 1624 01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:38,120 Speaker 16: it in his throes again. The precision, the confidence, it's 1625 01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,439 Speaker 16: all there, The chemistry is all there. He's hitting guys 1626 01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:42,960 Speaker 16: in stride. There's no you can even just see the 1627 01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,480 Speaker 16: improvement over the last few weeks of when we you know, 1628 01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:48,680 Speaker 16: first saw him in OTAs to now looks so much better. 1629 01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:50,640 Speaker 16: So I think it's just super encouraging to see that 1630 01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,439 Speaker 16: the one main element of Minichamp, which as you said, 1631 01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,520 Speaker 16: is the past game, looked about as good as you 1632 01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:56,600 Speaker 16: really could have asked this week. 1633 01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:58,800 Speaker 7: If we're supposed to be elite, that's what it's supposed 1634 01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:00,920 Speaker 7: to look like, that's what seven on sevens are supposed 1635 01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:02,840 Speaker 7: to look like. And they did, and so I think 1636 01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,240 Speaker 7: that was, as I said, exciting. And you could go 1637 01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:08,000 Speaker 7: even into Elijah Moore, the chemistry he's already built. With 1638 01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:09,680 Speaker 7: Elijah Moore, DPJ looks great. 1639 01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:10,080 Speaker 4: Amari. 1640 01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:12,240 Speaker 7: You know, we've only seen him sparingly, but has looked 1641 01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:14,680 Speaker 7: like amar when he's been out there. And now think 1642 01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,880 Speaker 7: about Chobb and the Chief and Jordan Akins is coming 1643 01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:21,720 Speaker 7: in making place. Cedric Tillman looks good, Marquis Goodwin looks good. 1644 01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:23,880 Speaker 7: I mean, we're all of a sudden talking about a 1645 01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:26,560 Speaker 7: team that has a bevy of offensive weapons. And as 1646 01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:30,240 Speaker 7: Marquis Goodwin said to me after the Wednesday practice, he goes, 1647 01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:33,000 Speaker 7: there is no ceiling for this offense. And let's not 1648 01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,040 Speaker 7: forget he was playing with Tyler Lack and DK Metcalf 1649 01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,200 Speaker 7: last year and what was a very explosive Seattle offense. 1650 01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:41,680 Speaker 7: So it just you have to score to win. And 1651 01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:44,760 Speaker 7: people are saying, well, what about the defense. Our defense 1652 01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:47,120 Speaker 7: has a great back end. The rules are slanted towards 1653 01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:48,520 Speaker 7: the offense, so you want to see them. And I 1654 01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:50,320 Speaker 7: thought as the week went on, they had some moments 1655 01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:50,760 Speaker 7: as well. 1656 01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:52,000 Speaker 8: And absolutely I was gonna say the same. 1657 01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:55,360 Speaker 6: They had very good coverage. 1658 01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:57,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's why this was so special because some of 1659 01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:01,200 Speaker 7: these throws were just absurdly good windows where you didn't 1660 01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:03,400 Speaker 7: think that he could throw them. And then when we 1661 01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:05,360 Speaker 7: get the pads on him, we get this D line going. 1662 01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:07,160 Speaker 7: That's the strength of this team. You can see it. 1663 01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:09,320 Speaker 7: We are a much different walk off the bus team. 1664 01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,600 Speaker 7: And Ap Gibby, I'm sure you both agree with this. 1665 01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,560 Speaker 7: I really think and Andrew Berry spent time in Philadelphia 1666 01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:17,960 Speaker 7: those joint practices last year when they walked into our 1667 01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:21,560 Speaker 7: facility and everyone's like, uh what, I think they were like, 1668 01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:24,160 Speaker 7: we need to get bigger, we need to get more physical, 1669 01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:24,880 Speaker 7: and we've. 1670 01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:26,720 Speaker 8: Done that in a major way. Absolutely. 1671 01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:30,120 Speaker 5: I would my one word fun. It was fun to 1672 01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:34,160 Speaker 5: see there's so many weapons, there's so many guys that 1673 01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:38,120 Speaker 5: can make plays. I don't know ten twelve wide receivers 1674 01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:41,240 Speaker 5: gonna be competing in that wide receiver Yeah, for spots 1675 01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:44,280 Speaker 5: on the roster. The tight end room is deep. I 1676 01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:47,320 Speaker 5: mean we forget about Harrison Bryant. Don't forget about Harrison 1677 01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:50,200 Speaker 5: Bryant because he made some plays this week at the 1678 01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:54,880 Speaker 5: running back position with Jerome Ford. Weapons. Weapons, weapons. We 1679 01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,480 Speaker 5: talk about it on Cleveland Browns Daily. It's an arms race. 1680 01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:00,840 Speaker 5: We have a lot of arms. Yeah, most importantly the 1681 01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:05,360 Speaker 5: arm throwing the football look pretty good. Offensively, we talked 1682 01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:09,240 Speaker 5: a lot about, you know, this camp this week, and 1683 01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:14,280 Speaker 5: what we learned from them is the deepest position offensively 1684 01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:16,560 Speaker 5: at the wide receiver room. Poissel, I'll start with you. 1685 01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,840 Speaker 16: Yeah, unquestionably because you just go down the roster right now, 1686 01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:21,560 Speaker 16: you go down the wide receiver room right now, and 1687 01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:25,080 Speaker 16: you can safely I think assigned the first five spots 1688 01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:27,240 Speaker 16: on the depth chart. And that's not something that every 1689 01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:28,720 Speaker 16: team can do right now. And I know that's not 1690 01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:31,360 Speaker 16: something that this team really has been able to do 1691 01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:33,200 Speaker 16: over the last several seasons. You know, when you have 1692 01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:35,920 Speaker 16: a depth chart that's rounded out right now in those 1693 01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:39,360 Speaker 16: top five by I think Cedric Tillman, who looked. 1694 01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:41,400 Speaker 8: Great this week, you're in a pretty good spot. 1695 01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:43,040 Speaker 16: And you add in, you know the fact that Marquis 1696 01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:46,720 Speaker 16: Goodwin age thirty two is you know, making deep ball 1697 01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:49,800 Speaker 16: plays and looks as explosives as probably he ever has 1698 01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:51,760 Speaker 16: in his career, like, and he's gonna be what your 1699 01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:55,040 Speaker 16: third fourth receiver on the depth tart Probably that's a 1700 01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:57,920 Speaker 16: great sign. And you know Donovan People's Jones, who I 1701 01:08:57,960 --> 01:08:59,320 Speaker 16: don't even think we've talked about him yet. 1702 01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:00,799 Speaker 4: I had a big day on Wednesday. 1703 01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,759 Speaker 16: Yeah, he looked phenomenal. I think he was the receiver 1704 01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:06,479 Speaker 16: who and this is what he's done his whole career. 1705 01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:08,960 Speaker 16: But you know, he might not always have the most separation, 1706 01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:10,880 Speaker 16: but if DeShawn is able to put that ball where 1707 01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:12,760 Speaker 16: it needs to go, he's gonna come down with it. 1708 01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:13,639 Speaker 8: And he showed that again. 1709 01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:17,120 Speaker 16: I think when Deshaun was clicking on all cylinders on 1710 01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:19,960 Speaker 16: that first day of practice on Wednesday, would you agree? 1711 01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:23,960 Speaker 7: I mean I would, which is crazy And the eleven 1712 01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,160 Speaker 7: years we've been begging to have a real wide receiver 1713 01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:29,680 Speaker 7: depth chart, and now we have an abundance of that, 1714 01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:32,800 Speaker 7: and perhaps more additions could be on the horizon. I 1715 01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:35,040 Speaker 7: don't think they're necessary at this point. But as you said, 1716 01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:37,000 Speaker 7: it's an arms race. But you got a Mari is 1717 01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:40,240 Speaker 7: your one. You've got DPJ and Elijah Moore as your two. Three, 1718 01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:42,800 Speaker 7: Goodwin is your four, Tilman is your five. David Bell, 1719 01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:44,720 Speaker 7: who you drafted last year third rounds, actually looked good 1720 01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:47,400 Speaker 7: out here and he's been playing faster, probably at the 1721 01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:51,559 Speaker 7: sixth spot. Then Jalen Darden has made plays. Dalen Baldwin 1722 01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:54,120 Speaker 7: has made plays every single day and getting reps. 1723 01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:54,200 Speaker 4: With that one. 1724 01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:55,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, Jalen Darden. 1725 01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:57,479 Speaker 16: I think it's one guy who flashed this week. 1726 01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:00,720 Speaker 7: Jalen Darden in my mind right now now, I think 1727 01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:02,799 Speaker 7: getting Marquis Gooden is the best thing that ever happened 1728 01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:04,679 Speaker 7: to him because he's working with him on his releases. 1729 01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:06,479 Speaker 7: He is fast, and I think that if you're thinking 1730 01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:10,320 Speaker 7: long term, can Jalen Darden in twenty twenty four be 1731 01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:12,680 Speaker 7: Marque's good one for your offense in twenty twenty three, 1732 01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:14,519 Speaker 7: I think there's a high like it. Now He's gonna 1733 01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:16,599 Speaker 7: have to probably end up practice squad and then stay here. 1734 01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,400 Speaker 7: He may get plucked, you never know, but I think 1735 01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:22,000 Speaker 7: that he has shown things. They love Mike Harley in 1736 01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:23,680 Speaker 7: the way that he runs his routes and always is 1737 01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:26,280 Speaker 7: where he's supposed to be. We haven't mentioned jackiem Grant, who, 1738 01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:28,400 Speaker 7: by the way, yes was an All Pro and very 1739 01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:31,640 Speaker 7: productive return was very effective as a wide receiver in 1740 01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:35,240 Speaker 7: both Miami and Chicago. Anthony Schwartz is still here, and 1741 01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:37,200 Speaker 7: obviously he has that speed. 1742 01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,040 Speaker 6: So it is. 1743 01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:42,439 Speaker 7: It's an outrageously deep group. I think that you know, 1744 01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:44,360 Speaker 7: the tight end room is deep. I think our offensive 1745 01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:46,200 Speaker 7: line room is deep. I think our quarterback room is deep, 1746 01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:48,400 Speaker 7: certainly on the offensive side of the ball running back. 1747 01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:50,120 Speaker 7: If then we'll get to this, I'm sure later if 1748 01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:52,439 Speaker 7: there is a question, maybe that's where it is. But 1749 01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,000 Speaker 7: we have never had a group of receivers like this, 1750 01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:56,680 Speaker 7: nor have we ever had a quarterback to get them 1751 01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,760 Speaker 7: in the ball. And that's why exciting, fun, encouraging. That's 1752 01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:03,960 Speaker 7: why what this passing camp has been is pretty darn good. 1753 01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:04,599 Speaker 4: All right. 1754 01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:07,440 Speaker 5: Defensively, deepest position. 1755 01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:10,439 Speaker 7: The defensive end room for me, and I think we've 1756 01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:12,080 Speaker 7: got great depth at safety. I think we have great 1757 01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:15,080 Speaker 7: depth at the cornerback position. Linebackers, we have a ton 1758 01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:17,160 Speaker 7: of guys, and with the way Jordan Kanashiks played, I 1759 01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:18,760 Speaker 7: think that you can feel like there's good depth there, 1760 01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,360 Speaker 7: but it's got to be the end position because think 1761 01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,479 Speaker 7: about it, You've got Miles Gartton's and Darius Smith. You 1762 01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:25,120 Speaker 7: now have two of the five guys in the league 1763 01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:26,640 Speaker 7: that have had double digit sacks and three of the 1764 01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:29,760 Speaker 7: last four seasons. You've got Obo Okuronquo, who you brought 1765 01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:30,880 Speaker 7: in here and you would have been fine if he 1766 01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:31,639 Speaker 7: was your number two. 1767 01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:32,720 Speaker 8: Now he's going to get a. 1768 01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:34,320 Speaker 7: Ton of one on ones when you go into those 1769 01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:36,320 Speaker 7: formations with three and I think we're gonna see four, 1770 01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:38,000 Speaker 7: maybe even five defensive. 1771 01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:39,960 Speaker 8: Ends at a time. That's crazy, by the way, it 1772 01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:40,679 Speaker 8: is crazy. 1773 01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:43,280 Speaker 7: Alex Wright has played very well and they think his 1774 01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:45,400 Speaker 7: jump from year one to year two is massive. You'll 1775 01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:48,919 Speaker 7: see him a lot on the inside. You draft Isaiah McGuire, 1776 01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:50,880 Speaker 7: who is very productive in the SEC, and then don't 1777 01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:54,720 Speaker 7: forget about Isaiah Thomas, who was incredibly productive as a 1778 01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:56,840 Speaker 7: rookie win given opportunities. Had that big sack of Joe 1779 01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:59,920 Speaker 7: Burrow on Monday Night, Football recovered to fumble against the 1780 01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,960 Speaker 7: Baltimore Ravens, So I like what I've seen from him. 1781 01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,040 Speaker 7: So I think that is that that's a deep group. 1782 01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:07,840 Speaker 7: And I think for the first time since we've been here, 1783 01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:11,120 Speaker 7: you're gonna see you could see six defensive ends on 1784 01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:13,840 Speaker 7: the final fifty three, and I think you will see 1785 01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:17,160 Speaker 7: five defensive ends active on game days. 1786 01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:18,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, which is just crazy. 1787 01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:20,920 Speaker 8: And that's a really strong argument there. 1788 01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:24,519 Speaker 16: For the deepest position on the defense, I'll say cornerbacks though, 1789 01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:26,840 Speaker 16: just because you know, not every team right now has 1790 01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:29,600 Speaker 16: three guys who I think you can safely slot in 1791 01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:32,200 Speaker 16: as a starting cornerback right now. And obviously it's the 1792 01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:33,759 Speaker 16: same as last year. I think that was the deepest 1793 01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:35,960 Speaker 16: position on the defense last year as well. But you know, 1794 01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:39,560 Speaker 16: when you can line up Denzel Award, Greg Newsom and 1795 01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:41,920 Speaker 16: Martin Emerson wherever you want, and that's I feel like 1796 01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:44,599 Speaker 16: that's what Jim Schwartz is gonna do. He's gonna rotate 1797 01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:46,600 Speaker 16: those guys in the slot and on the outside, and 1798 01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:48,280 Speaker 16: then of course, you know, you look at the depth 1799 01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:50,400 Speaker 16: behind him. You know Mike Ford, who just got here, 1800 01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,040 Speaker 16: he's been around a while. AJ Green's been around around 1801 01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:55,000 Speaker 16: a while and has made plays over his career here. 1802 01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:57,280 Speaker 16: And then I think one guy who is I'm kind 1803 01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:59,360 Speaker 16: of intrigued to watch is Chris Westry. You know, he's 1804 01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:02,800 Speaker 16: so tall, so looks so rangy. He's also relatively new 1805 01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:04,800 Speaker 16: in this league. Ben I think this is year three 1806 01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:08,200 Speaker 16: for him and somebody who I think could really compete 1807 01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:10,280 Speaker 16: for a depth spot on the Depth trot deck. 1808 01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:13,600 Speaker 5: Taivas Paul from the Radio Network was out here the 1809 01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:17,200 Speaker 5: other day and knows Westry and said it's a great pickup, 1810 01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:19,519 Speaker 5: like it just needs a little bit of work. A 1811 01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:22,400 Speaker 5: total development guy. But he goes, he's got all the 1812 01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:24,400 Speaker 5: tools that can be effective in this defense. 1813 01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:26,439 Speaker 7: Well if he can become what member Pierre de Seer 1814 01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:28,280 Speaker 7: was for us, and then Pierre Decer made a lot 1815 01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:30,720 Speaker 7: of money with Indianapolis Colts and then the Jets. He's 1816 01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:32,920 Speaker 7: a guy that you'd look at him and typically say, okay, 1817 01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:35,720 Speaker 7: cover three man could be tough. We're going to play 1818 01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:37,479 Speaker 7: a lot more man here, but there certainly could be 1819 01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:39,639 Speaker 7: a role. And he's got a unique gift in size. 1820 01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:41,280 Speaker 7: And then you've got a couple guys Thomas Graham as 1821 01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:43,960 Speaker 7: well and then Cam Mitchell, our draft pick out of Northwestern, 1822 01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:46,400 Speaker 7: who have kind of that inside outside versatility, so there 1823 01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:49,080 Speaker 7: is definitely some depth there. I would say it's very 1824 01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:51,880 Speaker 7: top having the sense that our top three are probably 1825 01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:54,120 Speaker 7: a top five, top three in the league if and 1826 01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:56,400 Speaker 7: maybe even top three top three in the league, and 1827 01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:57,920 Speaker 7: that's going to carry us. And I think when you 1828 01:13:58,000 --> 01:13:59,880 Speaker 7: marry that with the pass rush, So those are the 1829 01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:01,840 Speaker 7: two places you want to be deep at and you 1830 01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:02,760 Speaker 7: want to be talented at. 1831 01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:04,240 Speaker 16: And I think we all and I think because of 1832 01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:05,960 Speaker 16: that past us, those three guys are all going to 1833 01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,400 Speaker 16: look even better this year if it's as destructive. If 1834 01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:10,599 Speaker 16: that front is as destructive as they think it's going 1835 01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:12,280 Speaker 16: to be, that means there's only going to be more 1836 01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:14,840 Speaker 16: opportunities for those guys to get more interceptions, which is 1837 01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:16,680 Speaker 16: something that I think they still would have wanted more 1838 01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:17,240 Speaker 16: of last year. 1839 01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:20,040 Speaker 8: Well, yeah, MJ and Greg are looking at the first. 1840 01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:23,040 Speaker 16: Exactly and more more makeups obviously, So I think I 1841 01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:24,680 Speaker 16: think it's it's a big year for those guys if 1842 01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:25,800 Speaker 16: the defense does what it needs to do. 1843 01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:27,680 Speaker 5: Sigura Play of the Week. Is there a play that 1844 01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:29,559 Speaker 5: stood out to you so I would go back. 1845 01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:32,320 Speaker 7: There were two of them from the first day, and 1846 01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:35,000 Speaker 7: one was Donovan People's Jones was on the slot to 1847 01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,439 Speaker 7: the left and ran a little jerk route, working one 1848 01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:40,400 Speaker 7: on one with Denzel fake to the out, brought it 1849 01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:43,280 Speaker 7: back to the inside. It was a rocket from Deshaun 1850 01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:46,040 Speaker 7: and he flashed his hands at the last possible second, 1851 01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:46,840 Speaker 7: getting both feet in. 1852 01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:47,400 Speaker 6: That was good. 1853 01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:49,200 Speaker 7: And then there was one where Elijah Moore was lying 1854 01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:51,479 Speaker 7: up on the outside and ran a sea route and 1855 01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:54,240 Speaker 7: there was good coverage, Mike Forz in a great position 1856 01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:57,080 Speaker 7: and Sean just put it above his head and Elijah 1857 01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:57,640 Speaker 7: went up and got it. 1858 01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:01,040 Speaker 8: And I thought that was just absurd, absurd catches. 1859 01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:04,720 Speaker 16: I mean, there's literally so many plays you could have 1860 01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:09,280 Speaker 16: picked out on that first go Yeah, Marky's good when 1861 01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:11,040 Speaker 16: I had a cup, I mean so many plays. I 1862 01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:13,519 Speaker 16: think the thing that I would say, it's I'm also 1863 01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:16,400 Speaker 16: going to go multiple plays here, if that's okay. But 1864 01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:19,400 Speaker 16: just every pass that Deshaun completed to Amari Cooper on 1865 01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:22,160 Speaker 16: that first day. You know, I didn't know if Omari 1866 01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:26,479 Speaker 16: was going to be out there after the hand I 1867 01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,000 Speaker 16: mean you could pick any of them. I didn't know 1868 01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:29,240 Speaker 16: if he was gonna be out there because of the 1869 01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:31,360 Speaker 16: the core muscle surgery. It wouldn't have surprised me if 1870 01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:32,920 Speaker 16: if they were just you know, just take it easy. 1871 01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,000 Speaker 16: But he went out there and he bought out. And 1872 01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:38,040 Speaker 16: that's what again, that's what you really want to see 1873 01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:40,120 Speaker 16: out of the Shawn and and and Cooper this year 1874 01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:42,880 Speaker 16: because those guys you know, kind of up and down, 1875 01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:46,040 Speaker 16: I think when when you know, Watson was finally playing 1876 01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:47,200 Speaker 16: games against last year, but. 1877 01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:50,080 Speaker 8: It it just looks so good. 1878 01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:52,280 Speaker 16: And and the fact that that was how it looked 1879 01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:55,439 Speaker 16: in their first full practice together after you know, Amari 1880 01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:58,439 Speaker 16: had the surgery, I think again was was really encouraging. 1881 01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:01,280 Speaker 16: So I would take any of those and you can 1882 01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:02,240 Speaker 16: throw that at your play the week. 1883 01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:03,080 Speaker 8: I want to add one more. 1884 01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:06,040 Speaker 7: There was a play where DaShan did a playfake and 1885 01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:09,320 Speaker 7: then booted out to his left, flipped his hips, and 1886 01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:12,280 Speaker 7: just flicked the ball about forty five yards to Elijamore 1887 01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:14,240 Speaker 7: who was running a post from the left, so basically 1888 01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:16,200 Speaker 7: all the way back to the right sideline. That was 1889 01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:21,840 Speaker 7: perfect and it was like, okay, all right Gerald when 1890 01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:23,479 Speaker 7: he threw that, when Gerald was like yeah, that that 1891 01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:25,599 Speaker 7: was like Brady, that was cool. 1892 01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:28,320 Speaker 16: And one more play where I was like wow, we 1893 01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:31,759 Speaker 16: talked again about about Jalen Darden. He caught the deepest 1894 01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,599 Speaker 16: ball that I think Watson threw on that first day. 1895 01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:36,360 Speaker 16: I want to say it was probably a forty to 1896 01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:38,519 Speaker 16: fifty yard pass, and you know, it didn't even really 1897 01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:40,760 Speaker 16: look like that far of a deep ball because of 1898 01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:43,519 Speaker 16: how low you know, Watson through it. It had just 1899 01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:45,519 Speaker 16: so much zip on it. But it was perfectly placed. 1900 01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:48,120 Speaker 16: You know, Darden was wide open. Just looked like such 1901 01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:50,000 Speaker 16: an easy play. And the fact that he's making it 1902 01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:52,920 Speaker 16: with a guy who's you know, not in that top five, 1903 01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:54,320 Speaker 16: not in that top six if you were to put 1904 01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:56,839 Speaker 16: a depth chart together right now, still just super encouraging. 1905 01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:57,120 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1906 01:16:57,640 --> 01:16:59,519 Speaker 5: Well, and the other thing I would say, and I know, 1907 01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:03,760 Speaker 5: we gone offensive heavy. We talked about the secondary a 1908 01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:09,719 Speaker 5: little bit. Defensive line obviously, eye test great. That safety 1909 01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:15,639 Speaker 5: room really really showed some flashes on certain plays, especially 1910 01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:24,120 Speaker 5: on Wednesday, Thornhill, McLeod Delpit. I mean, there's some really 1911 01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:27,000 Speaker 5: good bodies and good leaders coming out of that room 1912 01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:28,320 Speaker 5: that I think are going to be the leaders on 1913 01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:28,960 Speaker 5: this defense. 1914 01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:29,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1915 01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:30,560 Speaker 7: You know even when you talked to because I was 1916 01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:33,040 Speaker 7: talking with Marquis Goodwin and I was talking about how 1917 01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:35,120 Speaker 7: he and Thornhill or John a little bit and He's like, yeah, well, 1918 01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:37,880 Speaker 7: he's got rings, you know, and so you respect that. 1919 01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:39,880 Speaker 7: And I think that he's brought a respect obviously to 1920 01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:41,680 Speaker 7: the back end of this defense from what he's doing. 1921 01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:43,960 Speaker 7: Grant had a breakout season last year. I think if 1922 01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:45,680 Speaker 7: we had been better, a lot more people be talking 1923 01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:47,599 Speaker 7: about Grant delp it over one hundred tackles, the foreig 1924 01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:51,120 Speaker 7: interceptions to lead the team. He is playing fast and smarter, 1925 01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:52,800 Speaker 7: and than you have Rodney McLoud, who's actually like a 1926 01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:55,360 Speaker 7: coach in that room, who was very much a capable starter. 1927 01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:58,080 Speaker 7: And we're going to see the versatility where we're gonna 1928 01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:00,240 Speaker 7: be able to play those three safeties and utilize them 1929 01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:02,880 Speaker 7: in different ways. So yeah, I think that that back 1930 01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:04,680 Speaker 7: end of the defense is going to be very good. 1931 01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:06,320 Speaker 7: And to your point earlier, when you get out there 1932 01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:08,600 Speaker 7: with the real pass rush and they know that the 1933 01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:10,680 Speaker 7: ball's got to be coming out, we're going to get 1934 01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:12,920 Speaker 7: a lot more chances to gamble, a lot more chances 1935 01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:15,920 Speaker 7: to get interceptions and be you know, tight to your man, 1936 01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:17,680 Speaker 7: know the balls come in, and have a chance to 1937 01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:18,360 Speaker 7: make those plays. 1938 01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:20,880 Speaker 16: And I think, you know, going back to Thornhill, the 1939 01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:22,800 Speaker 16: thing that I really noticed about him this week is 1940 01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:25,680 Speaker 16: just how loud he is. You know, he's done such 1941 01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:28,000 Speaker 16: a good job, it seems, of communicating in the back 1942 01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:29,680 Speaker 16: part of the defense, which we know is something that 1943 01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:31,599 Speaker 16: that they kind of needed to, you know, step up 1944 01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:34,840 Speaker 16: this year. So but not even that, he's also a 1945 01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:35,719 Speaker 16: great trash talker. 1946 01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:36,320 Speaker 4: You know. 1947 01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:38,760 Speaker 16: I won't say anything that he's been saying on the field, 1948 01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:41,120 Speaker 16: but he's definitely one of the more vocal players when 1949 01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:42,880 Speaker 16: it comes to talking the guys on the other team. 1950 01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:45,240 Speaker 16: And I think that's something that the defense really wants 1951 01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:45,599 Speaker 16: to kind. 1952 01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:46,200 Speaker 8: Of bring out this year. 1953 01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:49,000 Speaker 16: They want to be a mean, feisty group, and I 1954 01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:52,840 Speaker 16: think Thornhill fits that type of culture perfectly. In addition 1955 01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:55,160 Speaker 16: to all the plays that he's made over his career 1956 01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:57,200 Speaker 16: and that he will, you know, hopefully continue to make 1957 01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:57,920 Speaker 16: here in Cleveland. 1958 01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:01,839 Speaker 5: Part two, Final thoughts and wrapping up on a Friday 1959 01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:06,000 Speaker 5: edition of Cleveland Brown's Daily coming up after this time out. 1960 01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:08,200 Speaker 5: It's brought to you by bally Bet, a sports betting 1961 01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:10,960 Speaker 5: partner of your Cleveland Browns Coming soon to Ohio on 1962 01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:12,439 Speaker 5: eight to fifty ESPN. 1963 01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:19,960 Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by bally Bett, 1964 01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:24,600 Speaker 1: Coming soon to Ohio on eight to fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1965 01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:29,360 Speaker 5: One final segment on this Friday, and there is, as 1966 01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:32,200 Speaker 5: Bo Bishop likes to say, so much more, the best 1967 01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:37,000 Speaker 5: podcast Available, Part two, Mini camp Recap, Yours truly, Nathan Zegura, 1968 01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:39,800 Speaker 5: Senior staff writer Anthony Poisel. 1969 01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:40,360 Speaker 4: Have a listen, all right? 1970 01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:43,880 Speaker 5: You can only give me one most exciting new edition 1971 01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:45,720 Speaker 5: either on offense or defense this week. 1972 01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:48,840 Speaker 16: Yeah, it's definitely to me Elijah More, just because of 1973 01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:51,640 Speaker 16: all the different ways that we saw him lined up 1974 01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:53,600 Speaker 16: in the offense. You know, we saw him play in 1975 01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:55,360 Speaker 16: the slot, we saw him playing the outside. We even 1976 01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:57,599 Speaker 16: saw him play in the backfield. You know, they would 1977 01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:59,400 Speaker 16: motion him into the backfield, and I think when you 1978 01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:01,760 Speaker 16: see Elija More in the backfield, a defense has no 1979 01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:04,680 Speaker 16: idea what's going to come next. And to me, you know, 1980 01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:06,760 Speaker 16: he's a guy that's hungry to to put in a 1981 01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:08,880 Speaker 16: really big year here. And I think the fact that 1982 01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:11,560 Speaker 16: you know they're they're looking to utilize him at so 1983 01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:13,680 Speaker 16: many different spots in this offense shows that they are 1984 01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:17,400 Speaker 16: committed to maximizing his speed, maximizing his great hands, and 1985 01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:19,679 Speaker 16: making sure that we are going to make the most 1986 01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:22,639 Speaker 16: out of having a guy as as versatiles as quick 1987 01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:24,360 Speaker 16: as elijmore in our offense this year as we can. 1988 01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:28,880 Speaker 7: I mean, that's that's the answer, but I'll flip it 1989 01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:30,439 Speaker 7: to the defensive side. You said it well, and I 1990 01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:32,400 Speaker 7: mean I talked with Kunashak afterwards and I said, and 1991 01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:34,040 Speaker 7: it's it's not very fun when he lines up in 1992 01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:35,439 Speaker 7: the backfield where he's like, well, we've already had to 1993 01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:37,320 Speaker 7: have meetings and change how we try to deal with 1994 01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:41,519 Speaker 7: because he's such a mismatch and Elijah Moore is a stud. 1995 01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:43,559 Speaker 7: I loved them coming out of Ole miss. I wanted 1996 01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:45,960 Speaker 7: him that draft. The Browns wanted him that draft and 1997 01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:47,200 Speaker 7: second pick in the second round. 1998 01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:50,120 Speaker 4: Head coaches father wanted no doubt. 1999 01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:52,320 Speaker 8: So this is this is very exciting. 2000 01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:54,599 Speaker 7: I'm gonna go Zadarius Smith and we haven't gotten see 2001 01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:57,200 Speaker 7: him do anything on the field per se, but just 2002 01:20:57,439 --> 01:20:59,800 Speaker 7: looking at him, I was like, whoa. 2003 01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:02,800 Speaker 8: He is a big, big dude. 2004 01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:05,160 Speaker 7: And he is very effective rushing from the inside as 2005 01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:07,439 Speaker 7: well as the outside. And they kind of showed in 2006 01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:09,040 Speaker 7: that half speed jogg to where they were doing a 2007 01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:11,040 Speaker 7: two minute drill. You know, the idea that you can 2008 01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:14,599 Speaker 7: have Dalvin Tomlinson push in the pocket, Zadarius next to him, 2009 01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:17,280 Speaker 7: one on one with a guard miles outside of him 2010 01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:19,880 Speaker 7: where they can't double all of these guys, and then 2011 01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:21,840 Speaker 7: obo on a wide nine on the other side, where 2012 01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:23,600 Speaker 7: you know they're sliding and he's going to have a 2013 01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:27,360 Speaker 7: short angle to the quarterback. It's gonna be fun. He 2014 01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:30,800 Speaker 7: gives us. You know, if not the best pass rushing 2015 01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:32,479 Speaker 7: tannem in the league, we're certainly in a discussion of 2016 01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:34,320 Speaker 7: the top three pass rushing tannam is in the league. 2017 01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:36,839 Speaker 7: You think about Mac and Bosa down with the Chargers. 2018 01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:39,160 Speaker 7: You think about TJ. Watt and Highsmith with the Steelers. 2019 01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:42,360 Speaker 7: You think about Nick Boson, probably Armstead or whomever. Now 2020 01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:45,320 Speaker 7: they got Hardgrave with the Niners. Were in that conversation 2021 01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:48,960 Speaker 7: now and we never have been before. That's exciting to me. 2022 01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:52,960 Speaker 5: So what's next? The Greenbrier at the end of July 2023 01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:57,960 Speaker 5: and training camp. The position battle you are most excited 2024 01:21:58,000 --> 01:21:58,280 Speaker 5: to see. 2025 01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:01,360 Speaker 7: Nathan zegera dramatic I don't know that there are a 2026 01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:05,080 Speaker 7: lot of necessarily position battles. I am curious. I'll throw 2027 01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:06,759 Speaker 7: out a couple of things I'm curious about. I'm curious, 2028 01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:09,519 Speaker 7: can Jerome Ford be the number two running back? And 2029 01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:12,040 Speaker 7: all indications so far they're very pleased with what he's shown, 2030 01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:13,639 Speaker 7: but we're only going to know that once we put 2031 01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:14,960 Speaker 7: the pads on we see him in some more pass 2032 01:22:15,080 --> 01:22:16,920 Speaker 7: pro right, do or do they have to go out 2033 01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:18,880 Speaker 7: and get a veteran like a JD. McKissick who's a 2034 01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:20,840 Speaker 7: professional pass catcher out of the backfield, So that would 2035 01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:21,759 Speaker 7: be on offense. 2036 01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:23,280 Speaker 8: That's really it for me. 2037 01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:28,160 Speaker 7: Defensively, you know, Jordan Elliott, Jim Schwartz has been very 2038 01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:30,240 Speaker 7: high on him so far. Can he emerges that number 2039 01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:31,880 Speaker 7: two defense tackle? And then the guy that I think's 2040 01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:34,439 Speaker 7: got a ton of talent, Perry on Winfrey, you know, 2041 01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:37,680 Speaker 7: obviously went through some tough stuff this week and I 2042 01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:39,800 Speaker 7: feel very much for him and for Greg that had 2043 01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:43,479 Speaker 7: to be terrifying. Can't wait to see him out there. 2044 01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:44,800 Speaker 7: And then Maurice Hurst is the guy who I think 2045 01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:47,400 Speaker 7: is also very very talented. How does he perform? And 2046 01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:49,760 Speaker 7: so that kind of second third defense, because there's gonna 2047 01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:52,439 Speaker 7: be a rotation along with Siaki Eka obviously, you know 2048 01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:54,679 Speaker 7: who are the two, three, four defensive tackles. 2049 01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:55,479 Speaker 8: What does that look like? 2050 01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:59,720 Speaker 7: And then you know, I guess that linebacker. You don't 2051 01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:01,360 Speaker 7: know kind of how that's gonna shake out. 2052 01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:01,639 Speaker 4: Well. 2053 01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:03,479 Speaker 7: You hope to get a walk back soon. He says 2054 01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:04,920 Speaker 7: he'll be good for training camp. We hope to get 2055 01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:07,720 Speaker 7: taky Taki backs soon. Jordan kanashiks played really really well. 2056 01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:12,080 Speaker 7: Jim Schwartz coach, coach wars Jersey. I mean, so I 2057 01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:14,479 Speaker 7: think that room is gonna be fun. Jacob Phllips looks thicker, 2058 01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:17,160 Speaker 7: he looks good. J Okay is flying around, Tony Fields 2059 01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:19,680 Speaker 7: is flying around. So that room is kind of I 2060 01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:21,960 Speaker 7: think maybe the most unsettled in terms of what playing 2061 01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:22,920 Speaker 7: time is actually gonna be. 2062 01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:25,559 Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean, there might be tough decisions to make 2063 01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:29,000 Speaker 16: at those positions, But for me, I'm gonna say wide receiver. 2064 01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:30,479 Speaker 8: You know, we've been talking about it for most of 2065 01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:32,120 Speaker 8: this part. I think we talked about at the beginning. 2066 01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:34,640 Speaker 16: But there's gonna be some real tough decisions to make 2067 01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:36,200 Speaker 16: in that room too. I mean, you're not gonna be 2068 01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:39,040 Speaker 16: able to carry eight nine guys. There there are people on, 2069 01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:41,120 Speaker 16: there are people in You're right, and there are people 2070 01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:43,559 Speaker 16: in that roster now who would have made the team 2071 01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:45,439 Speaker 16: a couple of years ago who now are not going 2072 01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:46,720 Speaker 16: to be able to make the team this year because 2073 01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:48,040 Speaker 16: of all the moves they made you know, you you 2074 01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:50,880 Speaker 16: go down the list outside of that top five, David Bell, 2075 01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:55,400 Speaker 16: jackem Grant Schwartz, Jalen Darden, Dimitric Felton, Mike Harley, and 2076 01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:58,360 Speaker 16: Dalan Baldwin who made a couple of nice catches over 2077 01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:00,600 Speaker 16: these past few days too. There's so much talent in 2078 01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:02,840 Speaker 16: that room, and it really is going to come down 2079 01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:05,320 Speaker 16: to which of those guys stands out the most in 2080 01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:07,519 Speaker 16: training camp. We're going to see a lot of reps 2081 01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:10,120 Speaker 16: out of all those guys, I think, and I'm really 2082 01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:13,200 Speaker 16: curious to see how many. I mean, you say six receivers, 2083 01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:15,960 Speaker 16: but would they even consider taking seven if it's really 2084 01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:17,200 Speaker 16: just that loaded over a room. 2085 01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:18,200 Speaker 8: Do you need a kick puncher? 2086 01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:21,360 Speaker 7: You're going to have like three quarterbacks, so it's gonna 2087 01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:23,240 Speaker 7: be you want to have a fullback, So that's a 2088 01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:25,800 Speaker 7: spot maybe that is more open. It's going to be interesting, 2089 01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:27,400 Speaker 7: see because we talked about the defensive ends, you're going 2090 01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:29,080 Speaker 7: to carry more defensive ends than you have for you know, 2091 01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:30,880 Speaker 7: you're going to carry more right, you know, on the 2092 01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,240 Speaker 7: back end or the normal amount. You're going to need 2093 01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:36,160 Speaker 7: those linebackers to play special teams like Adams was brought 2094 01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:38,200 Speaker 7: here to place, but he's gonna make Like Bubble loves him, 2095 01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:39,840 Speaker 7: He's going to make the team. Kuanashik, it feels like 2096 01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:41,920 Speaker 7: it's going to make team. So how does that linebacking 2097 01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:45,000 Speaker 7: room shake out? Where can you trim a little bit? 2098 01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:47,560 Speaker 7: Is going to be ultimately yeah, the question, and you 2099 01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:49,560 Speaker 7: know we'll probably only keep three tight ends would be 2100 01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:51,800 Speaker 7: my guest. So maybe there's a spot there that's going 2101 01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:53,760 Speaker 7: to be interesting. Then I'd add even the quarterback just 2102 01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:57,560 Speaker 7: watching behind Deshaun because Dobbs is playing well dtr I 2103 01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:00,360 Speaker 7: think there's something about that kid, and he's going to 2104 01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:00,800 Speaker 7: be the three. 2105 01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:03,080 Speaker 8: And I think he's obviously the future too. But when 2106 01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:04,400 Speaker 8: is the future right? 2107 01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:05,840 Speaker 6: And that's what I like. 2108 01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:08,080 Speaker 7: The fact we get four preseason games because watching him 2109 01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:10,479 Speaker 7: and Tillman high school teammates. 2110 01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:12,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, the fourth quarters are going to be fun. The 2111 01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:14,639 Speaker 4: third quarter the same. 2112 01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:16,400 Speaker 7: Game for us as I think actually gonna be pretty fun. 2113 01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:17,519 Speaker 8: Yeah, I agree. 2114 01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:21,000 Speaker 5: Thanks again to Zigura and poisl for their time. 2115 01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:21,840 Speaker 4: Again. 2116 01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:25,520 Speaker 5: You can like and subscribe today to the best podcast 2117 01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:29,800 Speaker 5: available wherever you get your podcasts. Also at Cleveland Browns 2118 01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:32,599 Speaker 5: dot com and on the Browns mobile app. You can 2119 01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:37,479 Speaker 5: watch every episode from this offseason's best podcast available YouTube 2120 01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:42,880 Speaker 5: dot Com. Slash Browns Wanna thank defensive line coach Ben Bloom, 2121 01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:48,519 Speaker 5: tight end coach TC McCartney, corner, mj Emerson tight end, 2122 01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:54,240 Speaker 5: Harrison Bryant defensive end Isaiah Thomas. Reminder again, we are 2123 01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:58,040 Speaker 5: off on Monday in observance of the Juneteenth holiday. We 2124 01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:02,120 Speaker 5: are back with you on Tuesday, and we will officially 2125 01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:05,200 Speaker 5: be well into the off season here at the Cross 2126 01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:08,519 Speaker 5: Country Mortgage Campus in Berea. It will be very very 2127 01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:12,320 Speaker 5: quiet here, so it'll be interesting to see who is around, 2128 01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:14,960 Speaker 5: but no matter what, we have shows to do and 2129 01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:18,200 Speaker 5: we will bring you all new content next week as 2130 01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:21,320 Speaker 5: we start to delve into this roster, figure out those 2131 01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:24,960 Speaker 5: fifty three spots, the biggest training camp battles as we 2132 01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:28,080 Speaker 5: get closer to going to the Greenbrier in West Virginia 2133 01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:32,000 Speaker 5: and starting the twenty twenty three season. Want to thank 2134 01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:35,320 Speaker 5: Nick Paulas for all of his hard work. Happy first 2135 01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:39,080 Speaker 5: Father's Day, my friend. I'm Jason Gibbs. Back with you 2136 01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:42,640 Speaker 5: on Tuesday. Enjoy your weekend, everybody. Happy Father's Day to 2137 01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:45,880 Speaker 5: everybody out there. Happy Father's Day to my father, Jim, 2138 01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:48,880 Speaker 5: Love your dad, Love everything that you do for our family. 2139 01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:53,639 Speaker 5: Also shout out to my father in law Don appreciate 2140 01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:56,360 Speaker 5: all he does for our family as well. Happy Father's 2141 01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:59,519 Speaker 5: Day to him and all the fathers out there. Sunday 2142 01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:02,120 Speaker 5: is your day. Hopefully you get out and are able 2143 01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:05,840 Speaker 5: to enjoy it. 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