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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal Hell.

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Speaker 2: For me, I'm a man, I'm for I've heard so

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Speaker 2: many players say, well, I want to be happy. You

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Speaker 2: want to be happy for Dake Edith State, is that

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Speaker 2: woo woom?

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Speaker 1: And then and Tye.

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Speaker 3: Dan Rubinstein.

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Speaker 4: The season, at least the regular season is now officially

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Speaker 4: in the books. We had nine conference championship games. We're

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Speaker 4: going to talk through all of them. We just did

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Speaker 4: a long live stream looking at Oregon and Penn State

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Speaker 4: and SMU and Clemson.

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Speaker 3: And it's going to be back with you, my friend.

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Speaker 3: How are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm good, I guess technically, however you feel about Army

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Speaker 2: Navy next week the American champion Army.

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Speaker 3: That's right, Knights, that's right.

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Speaker 1: You had that.

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Speaker 2: I assume all right, I've wrote that down somewhere. I'm great, ty.

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Speaker 2: We are in the shadow in the wake of Oregon

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Speaker 2: taking down Penn State in Clemson with a last minute, tiny, tiny,

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Speaker 2: impressive all the same victory over SMU. And we've got

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Speaker 2: a full slate of Friday and Saturday action to get to.

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Speaker 2: And it's a different kind of conversation this year, Ty,

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Speaker 2: It just is.

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Speaker 4: It is a different type of conversation to say the least.

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Speaker 4: We have nine conference champions that we can now report

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Speaker 4: to you on the podcast. Please hit follow, please hit subscribe.

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Speaker 4: We are not only going to be doing a reaction

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Speaker 4: podcast to the games that we just saw transpire Friday

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Speaker 4: and then the ones that just wrapped up a few

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Speaker 4: moments ago. We're also going to be getting back together

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Speaker 4: on Sunday at noon for people listening to this in

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Speaker 4: time will be reacting in some capacity around noonish to

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Speaker 4: whatever the Committee decides to do with this twelve team

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Speaker 4: playoff field. This is the time where we need to

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Speaker 4: do these things, where we need to hop on and

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Speaker 4: talk about them at a moment's notice, because there is.

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Speaker 3: A lot going on.

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Speaker 4: Here are the games of note with regard to the

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Speaker 4: Power four. Oregon knocks off Penn State forty five to

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Speaker 4: thirty seven. Georgia beats Texas twenty two to nineteen in overtime.

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Speaker 4: Good game, great, a lot of defense. Clemson won on

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Speaker 4: a fifty six yard field goal at the gun thirty

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Speaker 4: twenty one to seven lea.

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Speaker 3: He looked like that was going to be a runaway train.

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Speaker 4: And Arizona State won the Big twelve. That one was

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Speaker 4: a runaway train. Arizona State impressively finishes off Iowa State

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Speaker 4: by a forty five to nineteen score, not to be

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Speaker 4: outdone the Group of Five Ohio wins and resounding fashion

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Speaker 4: thirty eight to three, Marshall thirty one to three, Boise

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Speaker 4: twenty one to seven wins, the Mountain West Army thirty

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Speaker 4: five to fourteen wins, the American Yes, my lock of

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Speaker 4: the Year Tulane did not come to fruition, and last,

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Speaker 4: but certainly not least, Jacksonville State wins fifty two to

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Speaker 4: Most of them were kind of runaway trains on the

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Speaker 4: good games. I think we ended up with three pretty

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Speaker 4: good games Oregon, Penn State, Georgia, Texas, Clemson SMU. The

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Speaker 4: later games that we saw on Saturday, all three of

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Speaker 4: them I think leave us with a lot to talk about.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, Yes, where would you like to start first?

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Speaker 4: Which is the most important game to kind of lead with?

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Speaker 3: Here?

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Speaker 2: The most important game to this show hosted by an

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Speaker 2: Oregon and Penn State a lom. I'm going to say,

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Speaker 2: the Big Ten Championship game. I'm sure people disagree, but

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Speaker 2: we just did a live stream with that. Those are

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Speaker 4: Well, we had number two Texas against number five Georgia.

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Speaker 4: But this okay, tactically speaking, this was the highest ranked

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Speaker 4: live stream. I am wearing my Happy Valley shirt. I

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Speaker 4: am wearing my retro Penn State hat. Your Oregon Ducks

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Speaker 4: win by a forty five to thirty seven score. Yes,

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Speaker 4: this was a game. The manner in which it started out,

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Speaker 2: I mean it was the most consistently successful element of

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Speaker 2: I guess those are the two most important things. I'm

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Speaker 2: to yell the refs.

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Speaker 1: The refs are the most important things.

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Speaker 4: Listen, We're in the Penn State hat, so I've got

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Speaker 4: license to do that. Yeah, there were some interesting no

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Speaker 4: There were some interesting no calls and that I was

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Speaker 4: I was screaming holding at least three times. There was

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Speaker 4: They didn't even go to review.

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Speaker 1: Picked up the first down two plays later, picked it up.

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Speaker 4: It was a nice pass, yeah, right to Trey Wallace.

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Speaker 4: But that being said, I thought an impressive showing from Oregon.

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Speaker 4: I actually thought, just from the Penn State side of things,

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Speaker 4: not in the least, and it was a game that,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and literally the ball bouncing Oregon's way on that

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Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel fumble as well, that would have given Penn

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Speaker 2: I think that's all right. I think what Penn State

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Speaker 2: it was. It was what people say about college basketball.

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Speaker 2: Game of runs right, and Oregon comes out as strong

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Speaker 2: Oregon jumps out after that interception, it's twenty eight to ten.

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Speaker 1: So if you're able.

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Speaker 2: To withstand that and get twenty minutes to you know,

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Speaker 2: it's a pretty impressive showing. And for Penn State, I

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Speaker 3: I think was pressing.

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Speaker 4: I think was pressing at moments, and you know we've

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Speaker 4: The interception that effectively ended the game. Was sort of

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Speaker 3: They were trying to make a play.

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Speaker 2: And I don't even hate that play call, even if

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't hate the play call. I think it

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Speaker 4: was the wrong decision, but hindsight's twenty twenty. Yeah, Penn

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Speaker 4: and they're going to be the one overall seed now.

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Speaker 4: So congratulations to Oregon are winning their Big Ten titled

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Speaker 4: Because well, I have many, and I'll turn it over

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Speaker 2: Quinn yours I think did more right than not in

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Speaker 2: It was not a good game for Georgia offensively. Obviously

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Speaker 4: like Georgia continued this trend of just dropping passes. There

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Speaker 4: at this and you're saying, we had a million chances here.

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Speaker 3: They're going to find some way to win.

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Speaker 2: You've got to finish. You just you can't let Georgia

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Speaker 2: and in this case, they're going to fake punt. They're

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Speaker 2: I want to say, when Georgia pulls off a successful

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Speaker 2: and so you blame the offense. There were just opportunities

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Speaker 2: And that's finishing drives, that's you know, being locked in

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Speaker 2: It just Georgia was able to get it done, thankfully

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Speaker 4: Now the conversation will be interesting around Georgia and Penn State.

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Speaker 4: Penn State came into this third, Georgia came into this fourth.

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Speaker 3: Excuse me, Texas was one.

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Speaker 1: But George's in. They got the buy George's in.

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Speaker 4: George is gonna be the number two overall seed in

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Speaker 2: Both were to Georgia in overtime in this case, so

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and Penn State, I think it's going to be

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Speaker 4: right SMU and Clemson. Clemson wins thirty four thirty one

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Clemson is going to be in this tournament. I

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Speaker 3: Get in.

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Speaker 1: Five conference champion, Yes, SMU.

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Speaker 4: Though, SMU is going to unlock the fury of the

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Speaker 4: Clemson gets the ball, Clemson drives the field. Clemson's able

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Speaker 3: So impressive on a couple different levels. From Clemson.

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Speaker 4: The way they were able to use Bryant westco out

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Speaker 3: So Clemson is in. How much, if at all, should.

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Speaker 4: The committee be looking at SMU and saying they're in

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Speaker 2: I think you put them in. I'm great with SMU in.

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Speaker 2: I'm great with their season. I'm great with their resume.

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Speaker 2: I'm great with what they can and can't control, and

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Speaker 2: I'm great with SMU as a top If they were

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Speaker 4: Yeah eight, Yeah, somewhere in the lower half of the

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Speaker 2: Don't know how playing Clemson and going down the way

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Speaker 2: They lost to Clemson. Let's be clear, Clemson is the

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Speaker 2: I don't know if we're saying we're not punishing teams

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Speaker 4: I mean Clemson and SMU effectively played to a draw.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they effectively played to a draw tonight. This was

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Speaker 4: It started off very pro Clemson, but SMU came on

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Speaker 4: two losses are now to ranked opponents, right, Clemson at

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Speaker 4: seventeen and BYU before that, So there's probably a case

440
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Speaker 4: being made that there's you know, strength of loss whatever.

441
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:35,119
Speaker 4: I'm I'm pro SMU in this argument, and I'm curious

442
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Speaker 4: to see how the committee handles it because I think

443
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,879
Speaker 4: they deserve to be in that scheduling.

444
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Speaker 2: Two Power Conference teams in their non conference portion.

445
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Speaker 1: And BYU and TCU.

446
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they were probably going to be playing

447
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 2: tc regardless because it's the skillet game. Here's look not

448
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,640
Speaker 2: to be to go down the rabbit hole too much

449
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Speaker 2: with like pay attention. This is a Disney yes playoff, okay,

450
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 2: and the SEC is fully Disney SECP SEC is a

451
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 2: full Disney SPN property. How many people are going to

452
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Speaker 2: be truly meaningfully how many meaningful people in the sports

453
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Speaker 2: business world they're going to be upset that SMU is

454
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Speaker 2: not in and Alabama's in.

455
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Speaker 1: There's a TV show, I say TV series.

456
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Speaker 3: I understand that's what it is.

457
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying Alabama should be in. I'm just telling

458
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Speaker 2: you I understand that. A year after it became painfully

459
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Speaker 2: clear that it's a TV show, and the ESPN playoff

460
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Speaker 2: wants ESPN properties in the ESPN TV show, you have

461
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Speaker 2: to consider it.

462
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Speaker 4: I mean, the way that I have this laid out,

463
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Speaker 4: it would be I believe Texas against SMU in round one.

464
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Speaker 4: If you're a Disney executive, you would much.

465
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Speaker 3: Prefer Alabama against Texas. I have no doubt.

466
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Speaker 1: Sure.

467
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Speaker 3: I'm not a television executive. I don't give it. Damn.

468
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Speaker 3: I think it's I think it should be SMU.

469
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Speaker 4: I think it will be SMU, but I would not

470
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Speaker 4: be surprised if it were Bama at this point in time.

471
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Speaker 3: We'll see. But this is a fun game. It didn't

472
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Speaker 3: start out that way well.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Any thoughts on the game itself on

474
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Speaker 2: SMU Clemson.

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Speaker 3: No, I think I said it already.

476
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Speaker 4: I think the way that SMU came back they acquitted

477
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 4: themselves well, I think they proved they belong on the

478
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 4: field of the team like a.

479
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 2: Clemson stuffed film AFA and then did a really nice job.

480
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Speaker 3: Nothing on the ground.

481
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Speaker 4: I mean, Kevin Jennings started to show in the second

482
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Speaker 4: half what he was all about. Brishard Smith, who I

483
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Speaker 4: talked about in the preview, had a really nice game Yes,

484
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 4: this is a team that can beat you a variety

485
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Speaker 4: of different ways. And when they're not shooting themselves in

486
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 4: the foot, when they're not getting behind the eight ball

487
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Speaker 4: the way they did in the first quarter, they can

488
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Speaker 4: play with just about anybody.

489
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Speaker 3: They really can. So I look, I what do I

490
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Speaker 3: have to say about this game?

491
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Speaker 4: I thought SMU, even in a loss, acquitted itself well

492
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Speaker 4: and they wong the playoff.

493
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Speaker 2: Yes, and a nice game for cade club Nick. Not

494
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 2: an incredible game, but a nice game when you consider

495
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Speaker 2: both his ability with his legs and through the air.

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Speaker 3: It's all on him.

497
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Speaker 1: It was all on him.

498
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Speaker 2: It's all him, right, The whole plane is made out

499
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 2: of k club Nick. How about little old Clemson starting

500
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 2: the year losing thirty one, thirty one to three, thirty

501
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 2: four to three, something like that, to Jeorge getting blown

502
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Speaker 2: out of the water and then coming back having a

503
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Speaker 2: really nice year in the ACC. Granted backing into this game,

504
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 2: but all the same, you can only beat the teams

505
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 2: in front of you. You can't control all of the circumstances.

506
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 2: Syracuse got them in here and winning the ACC. That's

507
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Speaker 2: not too shabby, Tie, That's not too shabby at all.

508
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Speaker 1: For Clemson.

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Speaker 4: The other Power Four game was Arizona State forty five

510
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Speaker 4: Iowa State nineteen.

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Speaker 3: This was the blowout game.

512
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Speaker 4: Yes, this game was an absolute nightmare for an Iowa

513
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Speaker 4: State fan, and it kind of emphasized something that we

514
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Speaker 4: have alluded to this entire season with Iowa State. Iowa

515
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Speaker 4: State has exciting pieces. State has certainly had exciting moments,

516
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Speaker 4: and I think at the end of the day, Iowa

517
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Speaker 4: State is still a pretty good team. When Iowa State

518
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Speaker 4: shoots itself in the foot, it blows the whole damn

519
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Speaker 4: thing off.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

521
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Speaker 4: Yes, they had three turnovers on their first three drives

522
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Speaker 4: of I think it was the second half. All of

523
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 4: them led to touchdowns by Arizona State that gave ASU

524
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Speaker 4: the clearance. But ASU at that point was already winning. Okay,

525
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Speaker 4: And that's not necessarily the reason why Arizona State won

526
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Speaker 4: Arizona State one. Because they were able to get Cam

527
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Speaker 4: Skataboo in space early often and to great effect. Two

528
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 4: hundred and eight total yards, two rushing touchdowns, one receiving touchdown. Truly,

529
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Speaker 4: and they talked about this on the broadcast. It wasn't

530
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Speaker 4: that Iowa State was out of position. It was just

531
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Speaker 4: that a Camscataboo was breaking a ton of tackles, and

532
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Speaker 4: if Cam Scataboo wasn't breaking the tackles, somebody else was

533
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Speaker 4: breaking the tackles. Iowa State had a tackling problem this game.

534
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Speaker 4: Nick Saban at halftime talked about, well, maybe they should

535
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Speaker 4: try to tackle them a little bit higher. They're trying

536
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Speaker 4: to go low on scattered with they're bouncing off them

537
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Speaker 4: like he's a super Bowl.

538
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Speaker 3: They showed the graphic.

539
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Speaker 4: He had something like one hundred and forty yards at halftime,

540
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 4: ninety after contact. It just didn't seem like anything they

541
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Speaker 4: tried could improve their tackling, could toughen them up at

542
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Speaker 4: the point of attack, could get any sort of momentum

543
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Speaker 4: going one way or another. And then there were the

544
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Speaker 4: turnovers and the other mistakes that I think accentuated. It

545
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Speaker 4: made the whole thing worse Arizona State these last few weeks,

546
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Speaker 4: as I think Brett Yormark tried to allude to, I

547
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 4: think he went a little bit over the top in

548
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 4: his post game speech when he did the trophy presentation

549
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Speaker 4: Arizona State. I won't go as far as him and

550
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Speaker 4: say that they're the best team in the country. The

551
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 4: last six weeks of the year. But Arizona State is

552
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Speaker 4: scary if you draw them in round one of the

553
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Speaker 4: playoffs with all their momentum right now and the confidence

554
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Speaker 4: they seem so.

555
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Speaker 2: No Jordan Tyson now which didn't matter fully obviously, and

556
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 2: ASC was able to get I think it was Malik McClain.

557
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: Was he Penn State transfer?

558
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 4: Yeah?

559
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 3: Yeah.

560
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 2: They had a big catch from him, sort of a

561
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 2: throw it up downfield. He came down with it. It

562
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 2: might matter against somebody in the playoff, it likely will

563
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 2: to not have your clear best receiver. But you're absolutely right.

564
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 2: Can I say something else about this game real quick?

565
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 3: Please? Please please?

566
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Speaker 2: You you nailed the preview to this game other than

567
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 2: the winner. Yeah, you're like, you gave your reasons why

568
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 2: you liked Iowa State, which were all correct. You were like,

569
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 2: you made this point in that point, and you like

570
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 2: rock Obeck, and you like Jadon Higgins and all these reasons,

571
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 2: and you're like, the thing that gives me pause is

572
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 2: they can't at all stop the run, and that worries me.

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Speaker 1: Against Camp Skataboo.

574
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Speaker 2: And they're one hundred and twenty ninth in yards before

575
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Speaker 2: contact the.

576
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 4: Yards before contact stat This was one of those instances

577
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 4: where it actually did matter. And on top of it,

578
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 4: something else that I didn't really go too much into

579
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 4: detail about, but their tackle success rate, which there's a

580
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 4: little bit of voodoo with how that's how, that's cold

581
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 4: and all that, and I always get questions about it,

582
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 4: so I don't bring it up unless I have to.

583
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 4: But that stat also indicates that they just weren't a

584
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 4: great tackling team coming into this game. And it is

585
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 4: against strong running teams typically that you tend to see that.

586
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 4: We saw that in the two lane game. Frankly, we'll

587
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 4: get to that a little bit later. That was another

588
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 4: instance where the number says this is a poor tackling team.

589
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 4: You go against the squad that's able to run the football,

590
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 4: able to gain some momentum running the football, that's when

591
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 4: that thing starts to show up. And it did in

592
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 4: a big way for Arizona State. Here again, forty five

593
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:37,719
Speaker 4: to nineteen. This game was over. I mean it was

594
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 4: over at halftime. It felt like it was over at halftime.

595
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 4: When Iowa State was able to get the ball in

596
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 4: the second half, you're thinking, all right, this is this

597
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 4: is when they mount the charge. I mean, it was

598
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 4: just it totally came off the tracks for them, and

599
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 4: Arizona State wins a resounding fashion. So talk about incredible seasons.

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Speaker 4: Arizona State finishing ten and two coming out of nowor

601
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Speaker 4: pick to finish dead lafe, Yeah, eleven and two. Excuse me,

602
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 4: pick to finish dead last in the Big twelve ends

603
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 4: up winning the Big twelve, another conference newcomer winning just amazing.

604
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 2: Conference of champions, the Pacific twelve tie taking down the

605
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Speaker 2: mighty Big ten, the Mighty Big twelve, Oregon and Arizona State.

606
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 2: You have all this chaos in the Big twelve. Oregon

607
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 2: taken down Bill Walton's truck stop conference.

608
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 3: That's right, feels good.

609
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 4: The other one here that I think has real significance

610
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 4: from the G five ranks is the Boise State UNLV game.

611
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 4: Ashton Gin t ran wild.

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Speaker 2: After starting not he didn't start slow. UNLV did a

613
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 2: really nice job so they did building a wall up

614
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 2: front and then collapsed.

615
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 4: It collapsed two hundred and nine yards in a touchdown.

616
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 4: UNLV surprisingly had a lot of trouble on offense. They did,

617
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Speaker 4: and I was impressed by the showing that we saw

618
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 4: from the Boise defense. UNLV had something like three hundred

619
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Speaker 4: and twenty seven total yards, but eighty six of them

620
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 4: came on one run. UNLV had eleven possessions, six punts,

621
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Speaker 4: two turnovers on down, one missfield goal, one interception.

622
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Speaker 3: And only one touchdown. Twenty one to seven was your final.

623
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Speaker 4: I watched this one commentating it. I guess you could

624
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 4: say in our verball or discord, we had a voice

625
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 4: channel go and talking this through and forballers dot Com, Yeah,

626
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 4: forballers dot com Hodjmaleiku Williams seemed rattled. Oh good chucking

627
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Speaker 4: this get like just was not able to outpace Boise

628
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 4: defenders to the edge, which I think jumped out at me.

629
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Speaker 4: Whatever Boise did this time around as compared to the

630
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Speaker 4: first one, which they very easily could have lost, I

631
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Speaker 4: don't know if it was.

632
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Speaker 3: Being at home.

633
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 4: I don't know if it was the air stagnation advisory.

634
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 4: It was kind of hazy.

635
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 2: If you watch the game UNLV dome team going outside,

636
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 2: going to altitude, going to the cold.

637
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Speaker 4: I don't know what it was, but this looked like

638
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 4: a UNLV squad that was kind of a shell of

639
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 4: itself as compared to that first matchup saw you know,

640
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Speaker 4: I guess at the end of October whatever it was.

641
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 2: I'm Boise State just beat them up. Oise State beat

642
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 2: them up. U and LB looked confused. You mentioned the

643
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 2: Haja Malik Williams thing Boise State. For them to have

644
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 2: some of the struggles defensively they've had this season and

645
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 2: then lock in in the conference championship game, super impressive

646
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 2: to do it only losing to the number one team

647
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: in the country by I think three points.

648
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 3: Yep, yep.

649
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 2: Crazy year for a first year head coach. Can you

650
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 2: fact check me on that? Spencer Danielson first year head.

651
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 3: Coach, first full year, Yeah, first full year, was.

652
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 2: The interim guy and was looked at. Was it Malachi Nelson?

653
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 2: The USC quarterback transfer.

654
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 3: Gave it to everybody mad and then doesn't even win.

655
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 2: The job and they're like, oh, okay, Maddox Madson has

656
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 2: a mostly good year, a little bit up and down

657
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: here and there. Obviously they have the singular offensive talent

658
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: in the sport in Ashton genty, a lot of people's

659
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 2: Heisman winner, but a crazy impressive year from the Broncos.

660
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 4: Is this the spot where we should talk about army

661
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 4: in Tulane or do you want to talk about my

662
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 4: brain of the year where's my sound block of the week.

663
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 2: I was stunned at listening to you pick Tulane off

664
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 2: of a loss, taking themselves out of playoff conversations, going

665
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: to the frigid Hudson Valley to take on an option

666
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 2: team like Oki dok Ti.

667
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 3: Well, they played an option team earlier in the year.

668
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: They're not all the same.

669
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 3: They're not all the same. I get that, but they

670
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 3: the Army.

671
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: Dude throws it like seventeen times a game.

672
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 4: He threw it two times in this game, I think

673
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 4: for seventeen yards. Yeah, so they played an option team.

674
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 4: We saw they had a ton of success against Navy.

675
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 4: I acknowledged up front, Yes, Army is not Navy. I

676
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 4: think Army is way better than Navy. But still Tulane

677
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 4: gave us the proof of concept here. Tulane proved that

678
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 4: they can beat Navy in resiz thirty five nothing.

679
00:32:59,280 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 3: They killed them.

680
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 4: That game wasn't even close, right, Army obliterated Tulane. This

681
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 4: is my lock of the year. I'm not play Yeah,

682
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 4: Tulane over Army. Army scored on their first two possessions.

683
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 4: They never looked back. Tulane had zero answer for Bryson

684
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 4: Dally had four touchdowns. They looked extraordinarily sloppy. On top

685
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 4: of it all, it was a It was the worst

686
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 4: game I have seen Tulane play all year. And I

687
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 4: will just credit Army. I will credit Army for their system.

688
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 4: I will not try to make excuses for why Tulane

689
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 4: looked the way they did by talking about look aheads

690
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 4: or playoff deflation syndrome or no. They had no answer

691
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 4: for Army speaking of yards before contact. I didn't see

692
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 4: the stat in this game, but it felt like a million.

693
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 4: It was just ridiculous. They were getting blown off the ball.

694
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 4: Army is now eleven and one. They win the conference.

695
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 4: They have one more game against Navy next week eleven

696
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 4: and one. The eleven one game next week.

697
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 2: Oh, because of the way they're scheduled, by the way

698
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 2: first year in this conference, another first been an independent

699
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 2: for sure, I will join the American and destroy it.

700
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 3: So Army not going to get in the playoff.

701
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 4: It's going to be Boise. However, Army had an incredible season.

702
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 4: They have an opportunity to go twelve and one next

703
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 4: week by beating Navy to laying Meanwhile, just I don't

704
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 4: know a lumpy nine and four season, they lost to

705
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 4: k State in Oklahoma, they lost to Memphis and now

706
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 4: to Army.

707
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 3: I don't know. I had higher hopes for this team.

708
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 4: There were definitely moments this season where I was much

709
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 4: higher on them. However, the way they closed out here

710
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 4: was not exactly all insuppiring.

711
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 1: No.

712
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 3: To say the least elsewhere in the G five.

713
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 4: Let's just round this out and then we'll circle back

714
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 4: to the playoff conversation.

715
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 3: Ohio.

716
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 4: Tim Albin has since left to take the job at Charlotte. Reportedly, yes, reportedly,

717
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 4: but Ohio one thirty eight to three. They gave up

718
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 4: three points to Miami and then went on a thirty

719
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 4: eight to zip run almost three hundred more yards for

720
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 4: Ohio in this game. They just pounded Miami. I mean

721
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 4: they just pounded them. The Miami defense forced one punt

722
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 4: in this game. That's the kind of matchup. This was

723
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 4: as the Bobcats win, and we.

724
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: Both liked Miami.

725
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 2: They beat him by double digits, and it was like

726
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 2: a kind of an empty double digits too.

727
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 3: You know who didn't like Miami?

728
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: Who?

729
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 3: Tim Shallow May Shallow May Timbo Shallow, May Timbo Shallow

730
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 3: May He went Bobcats in this one.

731
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 2: He was all in on the bobcats wrong and he

732
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 2: was good though he started out I mean wrong, Sorry,

733
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 2: excuse me, we were wrong shallow may shallows always until

734
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 2: some of the later picks, until he picked he picked

735
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 2: Texas and SMU.

736
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: I believe.

737
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 2: Shall May nailed Ohio, which not bad picks in retrospect.

738
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 3: I mean he shold me lots by right there. Yeah,

739
00:35:58,520 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 3: what else do we have here?

740
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 4: Had Marshall winning over Louisiana thirty one to three. The

741
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 4: weirdness with Charles Huff seems like it wasn't even close. Yeah,

742
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 4: that wasn't close. But I will have to wait and

743
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 4: see what happens there. I don't know, I conflicting reports

744
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 4: one way or another, but some weird contract situations going

745
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 4: on there with Marshall and Huff. And in conference to USA,

746
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 4: Jacksonville State won by forty.

747
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 2: After losing by one, right like six days ago, and

748
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 2: they lost by two.

749
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 3: It was nineteen seventeen.

750
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 4: Oh okay, but whatever, they win by forty, And so

751
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 4: I'm wondering if my theory of the look ahead to

752
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 4: the second version of the Western Kentucky Game is actually

753
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 4: what happened here because the rope, Yeah, they had five

754
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 4: hundred and sixty two yards. They more than doubled Western's output.

755
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 4: They just smoked them. This was never even close.

756
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 2: Fifty six carries for three hundred and eighty six yards.

757
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 2: Shout out Tray Stewart and Tyler Huff both.

758
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,439
Speaker 4: Dudes, both dudes, Big time dudes. Jacksonville State nine and four.

759
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 4: The question around Jacksonville State has nothing to do with

760
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 4: Jacksonville State. It's around is rich Rod going to be

761
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 4: the next coach at West Virginia? Right, We'll see, we'll see.

762
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 3: That is your action. I think this is where it

763
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 3: leaves us.

764
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 4: Okay, for those watching the live stream, I'm gonna flash

765
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 4: up a bracket here.

766
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 3: I'm going to talk through it.

767
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 4: For those of you listening to the audio, I'm going

768
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 4: to do my part to try and describe it and

769
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 4: tell you what I think, I think, collectively, what we think.

770
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 4: Maybe there is some wiggle room one way or another

771
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 4: with respect to who is seated where, but Dan, this

772
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 4: is what it looks like. Okay, Okay, right now, I've

773
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 4: got your first four seeds as Oregon, Georgia, Boise State,

774
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 4: and Arizona State. You're certainly not going to bump Clemson

775
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 4: from seventeen up above any of those guys.

776
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 3: It was a close win.

777
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 4: Okay, I think those are your four teams that are

778
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 4: getting first round bys.

779
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 3: I think you slide Texas down.

780
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 4: I think Texas as the number two team loses in overtime,

781
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 4: they need to be.

782
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 3: Your top ad lart at arch team.

783
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 4: I've got Notre Dame as your six. I've got Penn

784
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 4: State as your seven. I've got Ohio State as your eight,

785
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 4: which means that number nine Tennessee first round goes to

786
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 4: Ohio State. I've got Indiana as the ten traveling to

787
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 4: State College. I've got Clemson now sliding in as the eleven,

788
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 4: squaring off against Notre Dame in South Bend. And I've

789
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 4: got SMU at number twelve traveling to Texas. Now, the

790
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 4: SMU thing is where the conversation is going to go.

791
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 4: We know eleven of these teams have to be in

792
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 4: the playoff. The SMU one is going to be interesting.

793
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 4: There might be some different seating near the back half

794
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 4: of that twelve. My rationale for putting SMU twelve is

795
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 4: that you've got to put Clempson ahead of SMU. Now,

796
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 4: you should put Clempson ahead of SMU because Clemson beat

797
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 4: SMU in the conference championship game, like eleven minutes ago. Yeah,

798
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 4: eleven minutes ago. So I slide Empson in is the eleven.

799
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 4: I've got SMU as the twelve. I think this sets

800
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 4: up again your first round matchups of Texas hosting SMU

801
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 4: five to twelve, Notre Dame hosting Clemson is six verses

802
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 4: an eleven, Penn State hosting Indiana seven, and ten Ohio

803
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 4: State hosting Tennessee in eight against a nine.

804
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: Right, let me just.

805
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 4: Say, if you're a Notre Dame fan, I think you

806
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 4: like your chances. If you're a Texas fan, I think

807
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 4: you like your chances. If you're a Penn State fan,

808
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 4: I think you like your chances. Especially with some uncertainty

809
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:35,439
Speaker 4: now around Carson Beck, that part remains fluid to say

810
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 4: the best, to say the absolute very least right right,

811
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 4: But that's where I'm at right now with respect to this.

812
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 1: What is okay? Again?

813
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 2: If you're watching it, you're seeing the bracket up here,

814
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 2: and everything looks pretty appealing. Clemson did not play Notre

815
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 2: Dame this year. Despite Notre Dame's acc deal, Arizona State

816
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 2: would be playing the winner of Texas and smu organ

817
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,280
Speaker 2: would be playing the winner beat of Tennessee Ohio State.

818
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: I believe in the rose b The interesting thing to

819
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: me is having Georgia at two. Not that's not interesting.

820
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 2: They should be the two, having Penn State at seven

821
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 2: in Indiana at ten. I think it's very easy to

822
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 2: see a universe in which the committee is going to say, like,

823
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 2: we don't want a big ten game in the first

824
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 2: round of this playoff, that like, this is supposed to

825
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 2: be this big new novel thing, all these new matchups,

826
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 2: this this big step forward for the post new tradition,

827
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 2: new tight you're going to start on that. What do

828
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 2: you how do you jigger with the seatings so that

829
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 2: Indiana doesn't play Penn State ten to seven matchup in

830
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 2: state college because everything else feels even though Clemson has

831
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 2: played Notre Dame with some regularity, everything feels new and exciting.

832
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 3: Well the two there are two ways that you could

833
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 3: do it.

834
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 4: Okay, you could get hyper aggressive and you can move

835
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 4: Clemson from seventeen up to number ten and sliding Dana down.

836
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 3: Okay, Indiana finished.

837
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 4: With one loss to a pretty good team tough, and

838
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 4: that doesn't really make a whole lot of logical sense.

839
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 4: I think the more likely scenario is that SMU is

840
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 4: not penalized the way that I've set it up here, right,

841
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 4: SMU as a top whatever team, I've got them sliding

842
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 4: in on the back half of the twelve as the

843
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 4: twelve seed. Right, there is a world in which the

844
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 4: committee says, we know you lost to Clemson, but it

845
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 4: was close. We're still going to keep you ranked above Clemson.

846
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,439
Speaker 4: And in that instance, there's probably a world in which

847
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 4: Indiana slides down to the eleven. Okay, where Clemson gets

848
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 4: in as the twelve, and where SMU gets in as

849
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 4: the ten and they end up going to state college.

850
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 2: That would be the thing I would look out for,

851
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 2: something that doesn't fully make sense that the committee is

852
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 2: then going to work backwards from to bend themselves into

853
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 2: a pretzel explaining why that's right. So we don't have

854
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 2: an interconference first round matchup like there is nothing especially,

855
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 2: I shouldn't say nothing. Those are two excellent teams. That's

856
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 2: a spicy matchup, but there's nothing new about seeing this

857
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 2: kind of thing. We saw Indiana was Indiana Penn State

858
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 2: last year. Do they play like this is it's.

859
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: Just a big ten game.

860
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 4: It's a big ten game. Yeah, I don't know. I mean,

861
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 4: this is my best guess as of now. This is

862
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 4: all going to change in about twelve hours from now,

863
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 4: when the Committee decides it's going to drop its official rankings,

864
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 4: we will find out exactly what they think. Again, that

865
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 4: show is at noon Eastern time. Dan and I are

866
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 4: going to hop back on the stream here and we

867
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 4: will absolutely be talking through everything going on. We will

868
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 4: do our part to try and I don't know, make

869
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 4: sense of whatever the committee decides to do. Right, So

870
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 4: make sure you tune back in for that. Some of

871
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 4: you will be listening to this perhaps after those rankings

872
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 4: have been revealed, in which case we apologize. We can't

873
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 4: control the schedule here, however much we might like it.

874
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 4: It's just one of those deals. But that's my best

875
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 4: guess as of now. Agree to disagree. If you're out

876
00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 4: there and you feel differently, I'd love to hear from you.

877
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 2: Did you think about Boise Arizona State in terms of

878
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 2: a three to four question?

879
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 4: I did a little bit, and I jotted down in

880
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 4: my notes actually that it doesn't seem clear to me

881
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:19,479
Speaker 4: that Boise shouldn't be the four in Arizona State should

882
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 4: get the benefit of the doubt with the three, right,

883
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 4: especially with how much momentum they've kind of taken on

884
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 4: here this last half of the season.

885
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 3: So I think there's probably a case to be made there.

886
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 1: Boise.

887
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 2: By the way, if whatever it matters to you or

888
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,879
Speaker 2: doesn't matter to you, Bill Connolly has a resume SP

889
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: plus rank, So it's not just what your strength of

890
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 2: schedule is, but how efficient and successful you are against

891
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 2: that resume. And I believe Boise State is ahead of

892
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 2: Arizona State pre conference championship.

893
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

894
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 2: I don't know how that would affect things with the

895
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 2: as win over Iowa State and the Boise second win

896
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 2: over UNLV, But I think winning the Big twelve is

897
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 2: more difficult than winning the Mountain West.

898
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

899
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: But and I look at if you're going to talk

900
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 2: yourself into Arizona State at the three, which again, let's

901
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,919
Speaker 2: let's pull out here, let's zoom out a little bit.

902
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 2: This is an insane thing that has occurred. It is

903
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 2: that we have these two teams outside of the top twelve.

904
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 2: It is that have made their way into the conversation

905
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 2: for three and four just because we have to placate

906
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 2: everybody all the time that Arizona State losing to Cincinnati,

907
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 2: which if this is the game you have to discuss,

908
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 2: that's not great up for Arizona States. But that was

909
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 2: a Jeff Simms game. That was not a Sam Levitt game.

910
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,240
Speaker 4: I don't know right in, You've got about twelve hours

911
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 4: to do so solid Verbal.

912
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 3: At gmail dot com is the email.

913
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 4: You can also leave comments if you're watching or listening

914
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 4: on YouTube, send us tweets and the like. We love

915
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,919
Speaker 4: to hear from from you and get your thoughts on this.

916
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 4: Even after the field is officially unveiled again, we'll be

917
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 4: doing kind of a live reaction on the YouTube channel

918
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 4: at noon Eastern time and then putting out a podcast immediately.

919
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 3: They're after.

920
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 4: Mindful of the fact that the committee is going to

921
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 4: release this field at noon Eastern time. They also are

922
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 4: going to release their top twelve rankings. Now, bear in

923
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 4: mind the rankings and the seatings are different.

924
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 3: They are different.

925
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 4: Okay, it's one of the confusing aspects of this whole system.

926
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 3: But in that interim.

927
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 4: Period before we know any of the particulars going out,

928
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 4: to verballers dot com, you can sign up for the

929
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 4: free tier. It's entirely free. There are no strings attached.

930
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 4: A link dropped about an hour ago with a link

931
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 4: to a form where you can vote in our Verballer

932
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 4: Top twelve poll. So weigh in, let us know your thoughts.

933
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 4: We'd love to hear where you think these teams should

934
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 4: be ranked. We could very easily translate from that a

935
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 4: college football playoff bracket. I will do that and we

936
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 4: will talk about that on our Tuesday episode, which is forthcoming.

937
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 4: But we'll see again. It's been a long day of

938
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 4: doing this with you, and we've got our nine conference

939
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 4: champions I think we have a pretty good sense at

940
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 4: this point who our playoff teams are going to be.

941
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 4: There's some deliberation as for the seating and as for

942
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 4: that last team that's going to get in the field,

943
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 4: but by and largest thing is set down. I guess now,

944
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 4: with the benefit of hindsight, knowing all that we know

945
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 4: through the course of this season, through the course of

946
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 4: conference championship week, how do we feel about everything that

947
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 4: we saw this season? I mean, in the span of

948
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 4: time that we've been doing this since two thousand and eight,

949
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 4: this was one of the craziest seasons I can remember.

950
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 4: Where sure, for whatever reason, you know, I don't know

951
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 4: if it's Nick Saban walking away. I don't know if

952
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,439
Speaker 4: it's more transfer portal activity. I don't know if it's

953
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 4: because of nil conference realignment. Could be a multitude of things,

954
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 4: but it felt like there was just a tick more parody,

955
00:46:56,520 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 4: which led to a ton more unpredictability, and from our

956
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,240
Speaker 4: standpoint just looking at the numbers who downloads, listens, and watches,

957
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 4: a real uptick down the stretch here as this playoff

958
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 4: got a little bit closer and people were curious, if

959
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 4: nothing more, to see what the field.

960
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 3: Was going to look like.

961
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 4: We still don't know a time of recording, even though

962
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 4: we have a pretty good idea. But yeah, this sort

963
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 4: of mystery I think attached to this season. The full

964
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 4: way through has been a breath of fresh air in

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00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:24,720
Speaker 4: some sense.

966
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 2: Well, my favorite team went thirteen and oh tie in

967
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 2: a power conference, so I got to say the season

968
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 2: was pretty great.

969
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of notes.

970
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, five stars, no notes.

971
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 2: You know, here's the interesting thing when you have a

972
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 2: four playoff universe other than Notre Dame, it seems like

973
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 2: the teams that are in the conversation for making that

974
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 2: four team field are playing this weekend. Yeah, and we

975
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 2: got to sort them all out.

976
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: Well, they didn't do this, they gotta do this, but

977
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: they beat this. The no, no, no.

978
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 2: It felt like there was a lot of I mean,

979
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 2: what was the air stagnation?

980
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: Was that?

981
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 3: What was in Boise Yeah, air stagnation warning.

982
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 2: Airstag nation warning. It just felt weird that we're having

983
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 2: this conversation about Notre Dame, Tennessee, Ohio State, Alabama, maybe

984
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 2: like all of these teams that are just not a

985
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 2: part of the games this weekend, that they're just like

986
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 2: a lot of teams sitting at home, like, oh, well

987
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 2: we didn't have Indiana, we didn't.

988
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: Have to play.

989
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 2: We'll see where we end up. It's kind of cool

990
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 2: that we get an extra off week ahead of the

991
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 2: playoff to get healthy and get things sorted out and

992
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 2: get more data on teams we might be playing in

993
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 2: the first round of the playoff potentially. Like that part

994
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 2: felt weird about this specific weekend, but otherwise, look, signing

995
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 2: day was a few days ago. The portal is about

996
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 2: to open, but there's already been a number of players

997
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 2: announcing their intentions to enter the portal. There's a lot

998
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 2: happening all at once, and so that's kind of different.

999
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: Even with and.

1000
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 2: Coaching news of course, all all happening at once, and

1001
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 2: so that's it feels even more or chaotic and dramatic.

1002
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 2: And I don't know how people sort of drink out

1003
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 2: of a fire hose, the information fire hose all the time,

1004
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 2: because it just seems like this is the apex of

1005
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 2: how fast everything is moving. So in that regard, it

1006
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 2: feels very different. But during the season, I wish there

1007
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 2: were certain games that mattered more. We're zooming in on

1008
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 2: games that I don't think we would have in previous

1009
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 2: years that like, yeah, Alabama loves in Oklahoma, that's you know, that's.

1010
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:28,919
Speaker 1: It for the Tide this year.

1011
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 2: But you're like, well they lost that game twenty four

1012
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 2: to three against a team who went five hundred.

1013
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: But you know that happens.

1014
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 3: Do we want to do any dood alerts? Do we

1015
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 3: have any names that we want to call out?

1016
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 2: I mean, Sam Levitt seemed to be the most perfect player.

1017
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 2: I mean in what he was able to do in

1018
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 2: this game without his number one receiver. There were a

1019
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 2: lot of great performances. You know, Tes Johnson, we don't

1020
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 2: need to make it formal.

1021
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 4: Cam Scataboo, right camp Scataboo is sort of like a

1022
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 4: retired dude at this point.

1023
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 2: He's on the end of a Heisman invite to New York. Maybe,

1024
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, we'll see.

1025
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,399
Speaker 4: I mean, he has put his team on his back.

1026
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 4: He's been incredible. Even Kevin Jennings deserves a Doode alert

1027
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,240
Speaker 4: for the game that he put forth in that second

1028
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 4: half against Clemson, albeit in a losing effort.

1029
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I do want to pass down some wisdom.

1030
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 2: My great grandfather said this, My grandfather said this. My

1031
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 2: father said this all to the next generation. And it

1032
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 2: never made sense to me when I was a child.

1033
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 2: And I don't know how they could see this coming

1034
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 2: so far ahead of time.

1035
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 3: Where are you going with this?

1036
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 2: But they all agreed on this one thing to pass

1037
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 2: along to the next generation. And it was whatever you do,

1038
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 2: don't hire Scott Frost and I didn't understand it. And

1039
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 2: he's back at you. See that's my parting.

1040
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 4: Shot, Scottie Frost back in the game. Oh my god,

1041
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 4: talk about a news dump right in the middle of

1042
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 4: everything going on.

1043
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was right in the middle of I think

1044
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 2: that the Texas Georgia game.

1045
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 4: Beautiful, beautiful, all right, folks, We're gonna leave it there.

1046
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 4: Thank you for downloading, for listening, for supporting, for watching,

1047
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 4: for playing along at home. We will be back on

1048
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 4: the airwaves tomorrow noon, Easter Time ish, reacting to the

1049
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 4: official Field of twelve, taking your comments, reacting to your

1050
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 4: questions and the like, recording another podcast. Sunday's a workday

1051
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 4: for us here, given all that's gonna transpire tomorrow, we'll

1052
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 4: start getting news of Bowl games. We'll talk about all

1053
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 4: of that on the Tuesday episode. We're also going to

1054
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 4: detail the game that we've got planned for this postseason.

1055
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 4: Last couple of years we've done something called Winter Wonders.

1056
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 4: This year, Dan, we're working on the graphics, we're working

1057
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 4: on the sounds. Got a little something we're gonna call

1058
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 4: Bowl Bingo.

1059
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god, I can't wait.

1060
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 4: Bo.

1061
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:52,439
Speaker 2: It's gonna be weird and fun, highly addictive, and prizes time.

1062
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 4: You have never played a game like this before Bowl Bingo.

1063
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 4: Why don't we leave it there? Go on out to

1064
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 4: verbowlers dot com, sign up to vote in the poll,

1065
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:02,919
Speaker 4: or to further support what Dan and I do by

1066
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 4: becoming a certified or premium for baller. If you made

1067
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 4: it this far, hit follow, hit Subscribe. We've got a

1068
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 4: long way to go here. We've got rankings, we've got brackets,

1069
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 4: we've got playoffs, we've got the entirety of bowl season.

1070
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 4: And before all that, we've got Army Navy next week.

1071
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 4: A lot more to discuss for that guy, Dan Rubensteen,

1072
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 4: for myself, Tie Hildegrant, As always stay solid, Peace,