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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to Creature feature, where we look at

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Speaker 1: all the crazy creatures in nature. I'm your teacher, Katie Golden.

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Speaker 1: I studies evolutionary biology and psychology, and once I tried

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Speaker 1: cat food just to see what all of fuss was about.

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Speaker 1: On the show, we like to dive into the world

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Speaker 1: of humans and animals and look at that slice in

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Speaker 1: the venn diagram where our world's intersect. Today we'll be

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Speaker 1: talking about you want you're a boy, and you will

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Speaker 1: who will kill? Cute? And tween who want to murder

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Speaker 1: you to death. We're talking the most surprisingly scary animals

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Speaker 1: you should be afraid of. Discover this more as we

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Speaker 1: answer the age old question what the heck is catfish noodling?

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Speaker 1: So first let's talk venom, and I don't mean Tom

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Speaker 1: Hardy being sexy having weird intimate relationships with alien goo.

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Speaker 1: Venom Use is a predatory and defensive strategy in the

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Speaker 1: animal kingdom, and it's one of the various weapons animals

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Speaker 1: can wield against humans. Animal venom and toxins have different

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Speaker 1: methods of action. Some like that of the Russell's viper,

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Speaker 1: contain coagulants blood thickeners that induce thrombosis, which means clotting,

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Speaker 1: and it's really nasty and the very gross. If you've

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Speaker 1: seen videos. Sometimes you can mix snake venom with just

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Speaker 1: a cut of blood and it turns into like jello,

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Speaker 1: so Rattlesnake venom contains hemotoxins that destroy tissue causing necrosis

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Speaker 1: and stops the blood from coagulating. Kind of the opposite problem.

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Speaker 1: The threat of venom isn't overblown. Four million people worldwide

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Speaker 1: are victims of envenomation and nine die. When you think

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Speaker 1: of deadly venom, you probably imagine snakes and spiders, maybe

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Speaker 1: a scorpion or two, but there are many other animals

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Speaker 1: that are surprisingly deadly, innocent looking creatures you'd never think

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Speaker 1: your veins and destroying your body from the inside, eyed out.

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Speaker 1: Joining me today is comedy writer, Comedy Central featured stand

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Speaker 1: up comedian, and co host of the podcast Private Parts Unknown,

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Speaker 1: Sofia Alexandra. Welcome, Hi, thanks for having me. You're so welcome.

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Speaker 1: You told me before the show that you have a

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Speaker 1: fun animal story. Yeah, and I also want to say

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Speaker 1: in your intro you say that you tried cad food

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Speaker 1: just to see what all the past is about. Um,

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Speaker 1: I've I've eaten doggy ice cream and more than once

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Speaker 1: because it is really good. Oh, they actually have it

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Speaker 1: like they they make special ice cream for dogs. It's

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Speaker 1: it's it's kind of like space ice cream. It's like,

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Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? It's kind of a

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Speaker 1: dry ice cream and it is so fucking good. I

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Speaker 1: got my dog these cookies once that were like, um,

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Speaker 1: they smelled super good. They were designed four dogs, but

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Speaker 1: they're like vanilla. They kind of look like vanilla oreos

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Speaker 1: um and they had it smelled heavenly and they were

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Speaker 1: made out of duck renderings or something like rendered duck fat.

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Speaker 1: And I try a little bit. It was not good. Um,

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Speaker 1: not good in the mouth. But this is like sweet.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why, but it's delicious cream anyway, And

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Speaker 1: my fun animal story is okay. So I grew up

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Speaker 1: in um, the Soviet Union. I grew up in Odessa,

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Speaker 1: then it became you know, Ukraine. And when I was

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Speaker 1: growing up, we lived in a communal apartment, which means

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Speaker 1: it's a lot of people sharing a very small space.

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Speaker 1: So it would be like my mom and I were

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Speaker 1: in one room and this like sixty five year old

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Speaker 1: I went to a market and there was a whole

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Speaker 1: I was like, this is the best thing I've ever

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Speaker 1: I need chicks. I need that up some chicks, and

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Speaker 1: my mom, bless her, bought me two chicks to bring

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Speaker 1: they got like a chicken pox. I don't know, Uh,

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Speaker 1: chickens can't get chicken fox, but it's some kind of

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Speaker 1: And then my mom was like, we can't keep them here.

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Speaker 1: We have to give them to a farm. So I

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Speaker 1: instead of to unquote farm, you know, because I didn't

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Speaker 1: and that's where he took them, so maybe they really did.

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Speaker 1: that's my funny animal story. Well that's so that's adorable.

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Speaker 1: Now we're going to talk about stuff that's not as adorable.

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Speaker 1: What kind of animals are you afraid of? H I

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Speaker 1: don't like it when bugs have too many legs. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I guess most stuff because how often are you encountering

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Speaker 1: I've seen coyotes in the city. Yeah, and if you're

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Speaker 1: if you're human, charoites aren't too dangerous as long as

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Speaker 1: you're not right. Not a chihuahua, not a sweet little

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Speaker 1: to take you in this show we like to go

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Speaker 1: to imagination station all aboard the brain train. Uh. So,

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Speaker 1: imagine you're on a lovely beach, the waves coming in

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Speaker 1: your legs, it reveals a beautiful ornate conical shell with

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Speaker 1: all sorts of vibrant colors and patterns. You pick it

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Speaker 1: body is racked with an unbearable pain. You start to

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Speaker 1: how did you know? Um? So, this is a real

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Speaker 1: animal called the cone snail, and it's one of the

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Speaker 1: their venom contains something called Cono toxins, which is actually

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Speaker 1: cone is great. Yeah, Cono toxins. Uh. And they have

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Speaker 1: impossible to create an effective anti venom. Wow, that's beautiful. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's fucked up and beautiful. Respect cone snail. Yeah. They

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Speaker 1: they're they're jack of all trades, and their trades are

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Speaker 1: the Renaissance. Yes, exactly, murder. They're like the Hugh Jackman

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Speaker 1: Not I don't think they're in a San Diego, but

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Speaker 1: anything in the ocean. Um. So uh, you can't actually

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Speaker 1: much so that you can keep your hair. That's also

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Speaker 1: been used extremely rarely. There aren't that many case studies

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Speaker 1: have to put catfish noodling in this. He died as

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Speaker 1: he lived, sticking things sticking in his sucking hands where

421
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Speaker 1: they don't belong. Fuck you, Kevin deep throating catfish with

422
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Speaker 1: his arm, as as he he he would have wanted

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Speaker 1: to die this way. We don't even miss him, We don't.

424
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Speaker 1: What a dumbass, What a douche bag? Um. Yeah, and

425
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: also you know, because they have those spines that can

426
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: inject you with venom that are very painful. I just wouldn't.

427
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't noodle a catfish personally. Apparently I

428
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: was reading about catfish noodling, and people do them in

429
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: pairs as a sport because like it's too dangerous to

430
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Speaker 1: do it alone, so you have to have a spotter,

431
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: a catfish noodle or spot um. And so I mean,

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Speaker 1: I guess if you if you feel it's also illegal

433
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,360
Speaker 1: in a lot of places because it's dangerous and pointless.

434
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Speaker 1: Uh so, uh if you must catfish noodle, noodle with

435
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:30,479
Speaker 1: a buddy, p s a. Never noodle alone, Never noodle alone.

436
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: Let people know when you like, have a noodle itinerary

437
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: where it's like at eight am, I'm going to such

438
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: and such swamp and I'm going to catfish noodle with

439
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: this friend and alert, I mean you will you probably

440
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 1: at that point you'd probably interrested because it's legal a

441
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Speaker 1: lot of places. I apologize to everyone who practices catfish noodling.

442
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: I may be missing out on They're very angry right now,

443
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 1: right like it may be a real important tradition in places.

444
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 1: But um, I I think it's fine if you know

445
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: what you're doing. But if you're listening to this podcast

446
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: and you're thinking, is catfish noodling right, maybe I would

447
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: say no, I would say don't unless just don't don't noodle,

448
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: stay stay in scoodle. Don't noodle, please, someone make this merge.

449
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: Stay in scoodle. Don't you noodle? Can you become immune

450
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: to venom? So right up top, I'm gonna say, hey, guys,

451
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: don't try it, be cool, stay in school, and don't

452
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: inject yourself with deadly snake venom. That said, my p

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Speaker 1: s A didn't reach the ears of rock Senior Steve Ludwin,

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00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: who has been injecting himself with snake venom for over

455
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Speaker 1: thirty years. He's in punk bands and he likes to

456
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: shoot up with snake venom that he's collected. So why

457
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: is it? Because it's just super punk to do. But

458
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: it goes beyond that. Ludwin is an animal lover, and hey,

459
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: I mean I'm an animal lover too, But I don't

460
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Speaker 1: inject snake venom into my veins like hardly about But

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00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: to little one, it's an intimate experience. He says, quote,

462
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 1: snakes are fucking everywhere. The symbol for medicine is two snakes.

463
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,239
Speaker 1: They're ingrained in our brain and our DNA unquote. I

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00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: can't actually verify any of that. Uh. He has another

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00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: motivation for like the voice, Hey man, snakes. They're fuck neverwhere, man,

466
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Speaker 1: They're in our d n a. Uh So he probably

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Speaker 1: doesn't sound anything like that. So he's got you're dead

468
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: on Yeah it's and now you're right. Uh So, he

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00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 1: actually has another motivation for injecting himself. He wants to

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Speaker 1: quote build up an immunity. So here's another quote for him.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I've always loved snakes, and I had

472
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Speaker 1: no idea what it would do to me. But I

473
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: knew it'd been done before, and I was curious to

474
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Speaker 1: see if it was possible to become immune to snake venom.

475
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: So again, I think it's good to point out that

476
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: typically the best thing you can hope for after injecting

477
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: yourself a snake venom is a trip to the hospital

478
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Speaker 1: and maybe he'll survive without too many amputations. Uh So,

479
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: for an example of the dangers once blood win quote

480
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: overdosed on venom. Uh he didn't want to go to

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Speaker 1: the hospital, despite the fact that his hand blew up

482
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: to the size of a baseballment, because he was afraid

483
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Speaker 1: his snakes would be confiscated from him. Oh my god,

484
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: he owns the snakes, yes, yes, he milks them and

485
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: then injects himself with their venom. Okay, you missed telling

486
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: me that I buried the lead on that one. That

487
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: is fun. He's like got a snake farm essentially, Yeah,

488
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: to inject himself and you're not supposed to get high

489
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Speaker 1: off your own supply. Yeah. So to pass the time,

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00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: he watched David Attenborough series about reptiles as his arm

491
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: just started to get bigger and bigger, and he finally

492
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Speaker 1: decided to go after the go to the hospital once

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Speaker 1: his entire arms swell up and uh. He described his

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Speaker 1: arm as something out of the Evil Dead Um. So

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Speaker 1: he somehow survived and his complete insanity might benefit us

496
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Speaker 1: all somehow. Researchers at the University of Copenhagen are trying

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Speaker 1: to develop the first human derived anti venom using Ludwe's antibodies.

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Speaker 1: So typically anti venom is developed by injecting domesticated animals

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Speaker 1: with small amounts of snake venom and collecting their antibodies.

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Speaker 1: The University of Copenhagen's Ludwin Library of Human Derived anti

501
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: venom maybe a godsen for those who reject anti venom

502
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: derived from animals. As Ludwin puts it, quote, those scientists

503
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: win the noble prize for medicine and I get recognition.

504
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: That would be pretty sweet. I can't believe this idiot

505
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: is going to benefit. He may save us all. So

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Speaker 1: when we come back, I'll discuss a couple more surprisingly

507
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: venomous animals as well as some sweet cute little babies

508
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: who can jet your ship right up. So animals often

509
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: take advantage of us by being cute. We've talked about

510
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: this before. Are on the show where any animal who

511
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: fits into our baby's schema, having big foreheads, big eyes,

512
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: adorable baby like proportions, to que you, woody flies, bigugi,

513
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: want to love and cudoyam foebo. In fact, there's a

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Speaker 1: research study that found viewing cute images increases behavioral carefulness,

515
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: and this may be the cutest behavioral study I've ever

516
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: heard of. Participants were exposed to pictures of dogs and cats,

517
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: either as puppies and kittens or as adults. Those who

518
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: saw the pictures of the cute little puppies and kitties

519
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: performed better on what the researchers called a quote fine

520
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: motor dexterity task a k a. The Hasbro game operation.

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00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: Researchers think the effect of cuteness goes beyond your aptitude

522
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: at pulling butterflies out of cavity Sam's stomach. They think

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00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: that by seeing something cute, we go into a hyper

524
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: careful mode, perhaps which is helpful and child wearing. But

525
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: there may be another reason to be extra careful. Joe,

526
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: I'm cute things want to kill us and we can't

527
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: be beguiled by their adorable puppy is waits at being

528
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: really careful? Is what makes you good at operation? I

529
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: guess so. I thought it was steady hands brought on

530
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: by exan X. Yeah, just just like getting a xan

531
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: X prescription, just to be good at those study hand games. Yeah,

532
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: like adderall and focus. Yeah yeah, mix zanex and aderal.

533
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: Don't do that, you'll die or something bad. I'm sure

534
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: something that. Don't. Don't don't mix. Don't don't mix medications

535
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: without a doctor, especially not to get good at operations.

536
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: It's really not worth it. No, it's not. So. Have

537
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: you ever seen those like viral videos of the slow

538
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: loris Have you seen those before? I don't know what.

539
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: Let me show you and I don't know if I haven't.

540
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: And it's acute, e Woodey, look at the cute. Yes,

541
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: it is adorable, adorable. It's got these big brown eyes.

542
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: It's got like it's like a long pain almost yes, slail,

543
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: it's like a long miniature panda. Um. And I'm sure

544
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: you may have seen like those videos of that that

545
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: little slow lorist getting little tummy scratchy use and its

546
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: arm lifting up and it's so cute, but it's actually

547
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: very sinister in many ways, as we will discuss. So

548
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: no one can see this, but my eyes are widened

549
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: with just like just like a slow loris. So say

550
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: you come across a slow lorist in the wild. Uh.

551
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: These are some of the most adorable little primates you've

552
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: ever seen. They're found in tropical and subcrit tropical Southeast Asia.

553
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: Their nocturnal primates with huge adorable eyes. They're fluffy, they

554
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: got cute little poopable noses, cute little hands. They kind

555
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: of look like a cross between a porg and a monkey.

556
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: They're so cute, cute sloth like features. Also, they just

557
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: like it's just one of the most huggable looking animals.

558
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: But you should not them. Do not do that because

559
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: they have a vault to mimic a cobra's deadly bite. Um.

560
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 1: They're actually yes. They are the only known venomous primate

561
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: in the world. Wow, I didn't even know primates could

562
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: be venomous. While most of them are, the only this one. Uh.

563
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: They have a toxin and the crook of their inner arms,

564
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: so when threatened, it will put its arms up over

565
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: its head, exposing these toxic pits. Uh. Not not like

566
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: when I raised my arms up and everybody has to

567
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: smell my pits. Get it? Sometimes you know, it gets

568
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: sweaty down there and I can't help it. Dude, it's

569
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: the summer. It is the summer. But actually it's not

570
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,720
Speaker 1: their arm pits. It's the brachial gland on their upper

571
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: arm um, and so it secretes a venom um. And

572
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: it actually also mimics a cobra's general look with a

573
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: posture and dark coloration that kind of looks like a

574
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 1: cobra's hood. Uh. And it undulates from like a serpentine manner,

575
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: like sexy like just like and then he hugs you

576
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: to death. Uh. So it'll Actually the way it delivers

577
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: this venom is it like sucks the venom from its

578
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,919
Speaker 1: arms with its mouth and then it bites. So it's

579
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: like like liq li, like my arms, bite, bite, bite

580
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: your butt. That's so weird. It looks it's like taking

581
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: tequila shots. But but venom and then it all like

582
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: once it bites, it doesn't like to let go because

583
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: that it gets more venom in that way. Um, and

584
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: this venom can actually cause anaphylactic shock in humans, and

585
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: even there has been recorded cases of people dying from this.

586
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: How do you get it to let go? You know

587
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: how they say like bulls like hackle its arm. It's no, no, wait,

588
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: there's more like you put a finger apparently up the

589
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: butt of a pit bull. If it's not letting go.

590
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: I don't know I've or that. I don't. I don't recommend.

591
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you should put a finger up. I

592
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't think you should. I don't know

593
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: what you should saying. What do you do? I wouldn't personally,

594
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: I wouldn't recommend putting a finger up a slow lorises.

595
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: But that's it's not saying how do you get it

596
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 1: off of you? How do you get it off of you? Well?

597
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think like, uh, by that point,

598
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: you've already screwed up. It's too late. You just got

599
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: to accept your fate because you missed with one of

600
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 1: the cutest animals in the world. You've made it scared.

601
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: This is your punishment. I love how fatalistic you are

602
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 1: about it. You're like, no, you've sucked up. It's time

603
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: to say because like it's so it's so cute, and

604
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: you scared it and you kept molesting it until it

605
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 1: bit you. So like you know, so question that video

606
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: of the thing being tickled and exposing its pits, was

607
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 1: it about to get violent? Um? It was definitely scared.

608
00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: So it was like, uh, it's lifting its arms up

609
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 1: like that can be a sign that it's it feels threatened. Um,

610
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, if it was about to bite.

611
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: In fact, I think that's with some of these uh

612
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: the because there are actually one of the main threats

613
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: to slow horses is there the wildlife trade. There's this

614
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: illegal pet trade. And they are really not good pets.

615
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: They're not domesticated, they're not meant to be pets. They

616
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: you know, it's there. They have poisonous bites there for

617
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: they have poisonous armpits. Um. I think sometimes they remove

618
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: those glands so they won't be dangerous. I know, it's

619
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: really mean um and uh so I just let the

620
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: animal right an right. So so those videos of them

621
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: getting tickled are really not necessarily that cute. I can't

622
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 1: can't say for certain that the they're scared in the videos.

623
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: It's hard. It's hard to know. Um. But like lifting

624
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: their arms up like that is assigned posture. Yeah, so

625
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be surprising to me if they were feeling threatened.

626
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 1: But like they can't do anything about it. Um so, Uh,

627
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: mommy lorises will rub toxins on their babies so to

628
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: protect them. Yeah yeah, and partially that those toxins will

629
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: protect them from parasites to um smart yeah. Um so. Actually,

630
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: the way that their venom works is it triggers a

631
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: severe allergy. Uh. It's similar to the molecular structure of

632
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: the allergen and cat dander, just a lot more potent um.

633
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 1: So that's why it causes anaphylactic shock in some people,

634
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: because it's like this really severe. My husband would die

635
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: in a seconds. Um. That's another reason not to keep

636
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: them as pets. You will die, now, like the dance

637
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 1: you did with you will die, You will die. Don't

638
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: collect elite loris is. They will kill you with their

639
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 1: own pets. Um So, like I said earlier, we're more

640
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: of a danger to them than there to us. There

641
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 1: in dangered because of deforestation and the illegal wildlife trade.

642
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: So if you see one on like have you seen

643
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 1: them on Craigslist listing, or you want to get one

644
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: as a pet, you don't, like we have dogs and

645
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: cats are great pets and dogs are They've evolved with

646
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: us forever just to be our pets. And cats I

647
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: mean obviously we're just slaves to cats. So like, either

648
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: of those options are great to have us pets. Just

649
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: don't slow lorises. Leave them alone. They'll they're not for you, man,

650
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 1: They'll they'll kill you with their arm pits. Then around.

651
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: Uh So, another another cuty, little little cute, little baby

652
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: animal is a platypus. They're like the lovable goofballs of

653
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: the animal kingdom because their whole structure is ridiculous. Their

654
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: bodies like a jumble. Yeah, it's amazing. They look like

655
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: a duck of evil and like a kidnah all mixed together.

656
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: Great affinity for them, because when I look in the mirror,

657
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, the snows was not supposed to be here.

658
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: This went clearly to the much bigger person. It's like

659
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: when you wake up in the morning, you're like, you

660
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: look like a character generation generator that just got Like

661
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: you click the randomizer button, you're like huh yeah, or

662
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, ship is not good when like

663
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: your face idea doesn't recognize right, it's like, nah, Sophia

664
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: and this is not it. And I'm like, oh, okay,

665
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 1: well uh so yeah, these are actually their monotreams. Uh,

666
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: the platypus so there is. That's why. That's why they're

667
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: so like so jumbled. Uh. So they're like a very

668
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: early form of mammal um. So they're actually kind of

669
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 1: a cool look into our evolutionary past um because they

670
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 1: lay eggs and they excrete milk, but they don't have nipples.

671
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: They just kind of like it uses through their pores

672
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:52,240
Speaker 1: in their skin. Um. Yeah, so they're just getting milky

673
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: all over. Well, I mean yeah, so there are actually

674
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: these like grooves and their tummies that sort of like

675
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: the milk coals is in and then the babies just

676
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: look it up. Okay, so like milk folds. Yeah, but

677
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 1: they're not nipples yet. They didn't have they haven't evolved

678
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: it yet. Yeah. Um and uh they and that's that

679
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,760
Speaker 1: also explains like their bizarre appearance of having like bills

680
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: and stuff. Um, they're just they're just super ancient forms

681
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: of mammals. It's really cool. Um and uh guess where

682
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 1: they are Australia. We've actually talked about them a little

683
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: bit before. They use electrolocation, uh, which means they can

684
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: detect very tiny electrical signals coming from prey like worms

685
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 1: and stuff in the water. U. Um and but something

686
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: that you know, they look really cute, just like lovable

687
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 1: little goofballs. But male platypus have a spur on their

688
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 1: feet that can deliver a powerful kick of venom. Just

689
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: a spur, yes, just one. No, they got got them

690
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: on both back and that makes sense. I was like,

691
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: that'd be really weird if it's just one. Well, male

692
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: male platypus can uh So, like even though it's not

693
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 1: deadly to humans, it is super duper unpleasant and very painful. Um.

694
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: It is deadly to smaller animals like dogs. Um. And

695
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: it's so painful to humans that it can be incapacitating.

696
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: Uh So it can also even like in the months

697
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: following getting stung by platypus, you can have a hypersensitivity

698
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: to pain. Ah, so it sucks you up for a while. Um.

699
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: But they have those little duck feed What do you

700
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: mean these things are poisonous? They look they look like

701
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: they would just be like they're like, please, put me

702
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: on your lap, Put me on your lap. Gab you

703
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 1: I can't believe enjoy the pain for the coming months.

704
00:42:55,520 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: Can you see the spurs? Yea, okay, females have the

705
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: spurs too, but they actually aren't attached to like, they

706
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: don't have the glands that produce the venom. Yeah. Um,

707
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: so you can pick up a female on you Yeah,

708
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: well I don't you said it? Don't don't just leave

709
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: them alone. Leave them alone, God, but leave leave the

710
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: platypus alone. Um. So why do they have these, Well,

711
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: they are probably defensive weapons. They can also be weapons

712
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: that are used between males to compete during mating season. Um.

713
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: And it's likely that the venom was derived from what's

714
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: called defense and like proteins, which is part of the

715
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: immune system that kills off pathogens um and has been

716
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:50,919
Speaker 1: adapted into a defensive venom in the platypus. I had

717
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: no idea. Yes, they they got all the girl one.

718
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: I don't care, but then they're jealous. Boyfriends are going

719
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,479
Speaker 1: to come up and stab you with their pointy feet. Fuck.

720
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: Good point. You know if they can pierce like shoes

721
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 1: or something, I don't know, because if not, I got

722
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: you don't just like hug them with your galoshes just

723
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 1: wearing boots on the beach, I don't. They aren't really

724
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: a beach. They're not. I mean, you know again, like

725
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: unless you really like kind of frustrate a platinum for

726
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 1: you're probably fine. Well they're in They're like in there

727
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: in marshy like water, bodies of water like swampy. Yeah yeah,

728
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:41,439
Speaker 1: um so uh some cute animals can pack a punch

729
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: even if they don't have venom. Um. So, do you

730
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: know of leopard seals? No? Are they seals that are

731
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 1: leopard printed? Yeah? Exactly. I'm down. I'm very down. I'm

732
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 1: a big print, cute, cute little guy. Hello. They look

733
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: like a little feep up. These they're so cute. I mean,

734
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: they look pretty much like regular seals. They just have

735
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: a little bit of spots. They got spots, and they

736
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: kind of have this little smile like at that they smile.

737
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: But all the seals smile. Yeah, but these ones are

738
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 1: cute too. They're cute. They have like a little bit

739
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: of like a Dalmatian situation going a little bit, but

740
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: the spots aren't as big and uh they are found

741
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 1: in the Antarctic. Uh. They're very cute until they open

742
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: their huge, terrible mounts. Wow, that isn't unhinge the jaw

743
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: and swallow a pain the whole situation. Their mounts are

744
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: a whole of full of huge teeth and their jaws

745
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: can open so wide they can chow down on an

746
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: entire penguin. Yeah, that's what it looked like. You could

747
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,919
Speaker 1: just swallow the penguin. I think, I mean, I feel

748
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: like that could fit my head in it. I have

749
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: a small head, but I mean too um child side

750
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: sunglasses for me. Ah Yeah, someone knitted a hat and

751
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: was like, oh, this doesn't fit anyone because it's like

752
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: sized for a child. And I put it on. It's

753
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 1: like roomy yes, um signy head club. Yes, the heads

754
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: that can fit right in a seal. Uh. So they've

755
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: actually been known to attack and even drowned humans. Uh.

756
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: They hate us, Well, I mean we do kind of.

757
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: We just annoyed them. I mean we are destroying the

758
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 1: planets so yeah, no, no, it's on us. You're right seals,

759
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: you you are correct to harmless seals. But not really

760
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: because like so there was a marine biologist too, was

761
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: just innocently studying and he was killed after being dragged

762
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,959
Speaker 1: two feet below the water by a leopard seal, which

763
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: is just a horrifying way to go. Dude, that is

764
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 1: really far down. Yes, it's just so it's like just

765
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 1: being dragged. That is the worst death, being dragged, and

766
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 1: they're like feeling yourself drowned as you're being dragged. That's

767
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: like I think that's sort of the basis of the

768
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: I think it's called like lassophobia, where it's like that

769
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: fear of the depths and just being dragged into the

770
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: depths of the ocean. I totally get it. That's the

771
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 1: so creepy quick question. Was the seal mad because he

772
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: was not enjoying being studied That maybe it could have

773
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: been like a situation where it's like like do they

774
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: do that to swimmers? I mean, maybe the steal was

775
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: just following stand your water ground like Kennel standard. There's

776
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 1: standard laws, stand my water laws. Yes you're in my ocean.

777
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: That's it. Got uh so cuter story. Is that the

778
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: way question? Do they always drag their prey down? Oh?

779
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: They mostly buy them real good. So he really was

780
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: mad at the man. Yeah, I mean I don't know.

781
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: It could be like he may have just been playing

782
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: because they have been known they like they're kind of

783
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: like cats, they like to play with their prey. So

784
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 1: he may have just been sort of playing around, like oh,

785
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,240
Speaker 1: this is fun as the guys just like panicking and drowning.

786
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: Because these are they're bird seals or psychopaths, they're the

787
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: permanent teenagers. They're they're like the asshole They're like the

788
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: asshole cats of the sea. Um, so this is a

789
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: just a palate cleanser. This cute story. Female leopard seal

790
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: found a wildlife photographer doing uh some photos and uh

791
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: he like when he was fully aware of the dangers

792
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: of leopard seals, so he was like really scared. But

793
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: photographers are weird and that's somehow they can kind of

794
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 1: dissociate themselves from their fear and just keep taking photos.

795
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 1: Like I keep hearing this story over and over there,

796
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: like oh this is really scary. IM I'm about to die.

797
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 1: I better get a good shot, Like I gotta get

798
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: a good frame. That's so crazy. Um, gotta get that

799
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: good composition right before you die. So he was like crap.

800
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,439
Speaker 1: You know, he was pretty scared. But instead of like

801
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 1: chomping on him or dragging him to his death, she

802
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: kept trying to feed him. So she would take like

803
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 1: half like these just like dead penguins and like throwing

804
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 1: them at him, and like she would get increasingly frustrated

805
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 1: because he kept refusing to eat it, and he thought

806
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 1: that maybe it was like she thought he was either

807
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: like a malnourished or like a baby seal or something,

808
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: and she was like eat the food, eat the food

809
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: kind of. She's the Jewish mom. Yes, so thin eats.

810
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: Sit down, what are you doing? Where are you going? Um? Yeah,

811
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: my grandma would be like how you need to eat more,

812
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: and then like and then or other times to be

813
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: like oh you look so healthy and full. It's like

814
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 1: just stop please. Yeah, you know, my family's will be like,

815
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: oh you look fat. God. They didn't mean it in

816
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 1: a negative way, but that like a positive way. They

817
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 1: just I just think it's weird to like, uh, bee

818
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,919
Speaker 1: keeping track of my weight is publicly. Yeah, So it's

819
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: not like I'm like mad, I'm just like it's weird

820
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 1: that you're keeping track. It was I'm not out here

821
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: being like, well, last time you were right at sixty

822
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 1: two and today you're one. Yeah, it's super weird. And

823
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: I really hate it when, like when my grandma used

824
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: to just shove dead penguins down my mouth. Yeah, I know,

825
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 1: it's such a common experience around the dish, Like, god, Grandma,

826
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: I already told you only like the top half of

827
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: the penguin. I do not like the feet. Get it

828
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: away from me. Um. So that also reminds you of

829
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,720
Speaker 1: cats where it's like they give you they keep giving

830
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: you half dead mines because they're trying to teach you.

831
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: And you know seals will teach their young how to

832
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 1: so it's it's it's pretty. It's a heartwarming story other

833
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: than the times that the seals try to drown us

834
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 1: and kill us. I like that you don't know if

835
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: they're going to feed you or kill you. Yeah, that's

836
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: it's a gamble with seals real. Uh. You know, it's

837
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: like like you could have a game show called make

838
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 1: a Seal and you gotta make a deal and if

839
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 1: you choose the wrong seal, you die. Starring Howie Mandel

840
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 1: and there's no control whatsoever of which contestants could eaten.

841
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: Just Howie Mandel like trying to fight off some seals.

842
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: Watch that. I mean, I'm pretty sure he's a huge

843
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: drummer phobe. So, um, I wonder what he would be

844
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: like in the water. Is like or she was covered

845
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: in a wetsuit and just like fighting seals with that?

846
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 1: Is that your You've got drama right there. Yeah, Howie

847
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: Mandel Seal Smasher Steal Fighter starring Howie Mandel and The

848
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: Rock as the Seal, Vin Diesel as Elephant Seal one.

849
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: That's like, that's like the that sided of the trifecta

850
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:59,479
Speaker 1: of like shiny headed boys, bald baldmin yeah, hot tough

851
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 1: baldmin in club. Yeah. Um, gotta get swoll. You gotta

852
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: lose your hair. You gotta gotta get you swoll if

853
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 1: you want to be King of the shoal. So there's

854
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 1: the Scottish Smith of Kelpies. Have you heard of these

855
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 1: na So there's there's these beautiful shape shifting women who

856
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: are sometimes horses. Um, this is like a Mermaid version. Yeah,

857
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: it's the version of a Mermaid, Scottish version of the

858
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: Mermaid where they're like horses. Um, so, I guess Scottish

859
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: people kind of want to suck a horse. Well, I

860
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: I kind of wanted to suck a fish. I'm not

861
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: going to go on the record and say that, but

862
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: you can. Uh so. Uh, these these beautiful creatures, uh

863
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: want to kind of like mermaids and some versions of folklore.

864
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 1: They want to seduce you, so you go to the

865
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: water and then they grab onto you and drown you.

866
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,919
Speaker 1: Like the elephant seal. You mean, like the leopard seal. Yes,

867
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: thank you. Elephant seals are the ones with the big

868
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:10,720
Speaker 1: old floppity pro They're so fun. They're fun. Uh sorry,

869
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 1: just took a detour, that's all right. The elephant seals

870
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: always deserve a mention just for how great they are. Um,

871
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: and the sounds they make. They do make good sounds.

872
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 1: So the myth of the kelpie may have originated from

873
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: just like explaining how otherwise capable, full grown men would

874
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: drown in bodies of water. Um, because it's surprisingly easy

875
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: to drown, especially undertow You can get caught in just

876
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: like a sort of a current that like sucks you under.

877
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: Like I went backpacking last weekend and I was like

878
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: reading all about how the ways you can die and

879
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 1: seemingly innocent looking streams, and like one way as you

880
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: get like you get sucked through tree roots and then

881
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: you get tangled and you drown. I would love to

882
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: go hiking with you. I normally hate it, but yes,

883
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna tell me about all the ways I could

884
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: die beforehand. I would Oh, I definitely google all the

885
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: ways I can possibly die. It's a it's part of

886
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 1: my anxiety anyways. UM One other explanation for how kelpie

887
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: the myth of the kelpie originated was a weather phenomenon

888
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: called water spouts, where it's like a sort of vortex

889
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: of water that can look like like a living figure.

890
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: I guess if you're drunk enough, maybe you're squinting and

891
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 1: you haven't seen a woman in a really long right.

892
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: If you're super Scottish, you're very drunk and you see

893
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 1: like a like a water spout and it's like lassie,

894
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 1: beautifuls I put my dick in that. I don't know

895
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: how to just scot. I do want to talk about

896
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 1: a real life kelpie, though, which is what is the

897
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:54,240
Speaker 1: beautiful and elegant swan? Um? So, swans are sexy. Swans

898
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:58,879
Speaker 1: are sexy. They're beautiful. They but they're super they are

899
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: like super jock aggro. Like they're always like like you

900
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: want to start some bra bra. They're mean, they're study yeah, bro,

901
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,399
Speaker 1: they're like the mean girls. They mean yeah, I mean

902
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: girls and boys like the males are especially territorial and aggressive,

903
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: especially when defending their nesting sites. So tell me about it.

904
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 1: I do want to dispel one myth. They cannot typically

905
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: break your legs with their necks or their wings. They

906
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: are strong, They've got very strong nex Oh, I just

907
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: it's just sort of a I think it's just sort

908
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: of an urban legend. Think you made that up? No,

909
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: I didn't. Well, because like my mom, I remember she

910
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 1: told me the story about how she was at like

911
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: a pond and there was a swan and the swans

912
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: started chasing her, and like she was like running away

913
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: and screaming, and like like bystanders were like laughing at her,

914
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 1: and some guy was like, oh, it was a good

915
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: thing you ran away from that swan because they can

916
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: like break your legs. I think this is a personal

917
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: urban myth that that man started for. I don't I think,

918
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm pretty sure this is a let

919
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: us know, let us the swan breaking tweet at how

920
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: wrong Sophia is. That would be great. Yeah, please tweet

921
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: at me with how right I am. That's I mean,

922
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: you can do that if you're wrong, but if you're

923
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 1: one of the smart people who are correct. Anyways, the

924
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 1: point is they probably can't break your legs like Mafioso's,

925
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: but they will his flat they will. And uh, they

926
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: have drowned a person before, and they will try to

927
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: what how do they drown a person? Well? Um, So

928
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 1: there was a swan keeper in the plains Iowa sung

929
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: gloss over what swankeeper? Apparently some people keep swans um

930
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: any other bird they asked me to keep. I say

931
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: it designed the swan keeper, the keep of the keys

932
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 1: to the swans, show the swan, so I may keep them.

933
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: Come HITHERN answer these questions through that so that you

934
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: may see my swans. Um. I think some people like

935
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: to have swans in ponds because they like chase off

936
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 1: geese and stuff. So uh and swans, I guess we

937
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: don't want geese. Yeah, I guess swans are prettier than geese.

938
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: But swans fox with you just as much as geese.

939
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: So I'm not really sure. It's just kind of treating

940
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: morphine for method one over here, right. I guess Mute

941
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: swans are quieter, but they're still extremely aggressive. Um so

942
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: um uh. So there was a swan keeper who was

943
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: drowned to death by a posse of angry swans. Oh

944
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 1: my god. They didn't do it alone, swans. Uh. They

945
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: capsized his kayak and they swimming in the vessel. He

946
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,919
Speaker 1: was in a kayak. They knocked him over and then

947
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: they just kept him from swimming to shore and he drowned. Shut.

948
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 1: Um yeah, and uh, actually Anna just texted me that

949
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 1: a swan killed a dog as its owner watched on

950
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: in horror as the bird quote beat down on it.

951
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Um oh yeah. And it's so it

952
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: killed the dog with its wings, So that's what the fuck? Yeah,

953
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: they're pretty, they're they're powerful animals. Wait, so, how so

954
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: they can communicate their hate to each other to drown

955
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 1: a person as a group with that's a lot with

956
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 1: a lot of hissing and flapping. And I think, yeah,

957
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 1: it's like that's a lot, right that they all could

958
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: like do that together. I mean, I think it's just

959
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 1: can't get fucking three people to brunch. These fucking swans

960
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 1: are getting posses to murder people. Just one of them's

961
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: got a switchblade and one of them is just like

962
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: smacking its fist and it's it's wing for real. These

963
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: are some badass snapping their little wing fingers like the

964
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 1: short side story. Um So, there was also an infamous

965
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 1: swan in the UK who kept a king rowers and

966
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: was named mr Asbo, which is apparently a word referring

967
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: to the UK acronym quote anti social behavior orders, which

968
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 1: I guess is from like the I guess it's like

969
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: if someone if a kid is like misbehaving, they can

970
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: send out an anti social behavior order, like stopping the

971
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: kid from like doing that behavior. I'm I'm actually not sure,

972
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: and I apologize that that word is like sort of

973
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 1: derogatory or something. It's just like we just don't know

974
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: anything about It's just like a British acronym. And so

975
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: they named this swan mr Asbo because he kept attacking

976
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 1: rowers and boats and trying to capsize boats. Insane. I

977
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 1: love that instead of removing him, they were just like,

978
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: let's name him. I'm keeping yeah, because if I'm if

979
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: I'm correct, I think you should kill him, but maybe

980
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 1: move him to where there's no They just like, well,

981
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 1: let's just call him Mr. Asshole, and like would just

982
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: keep it. I mean, they killed swan keepers, so what

983
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: to the rest of us, Like, we don't stand a chance.

984
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: Why are we eating for that swan to become a murderer.

985
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 1: I mean it's it is guilty before proven in a sense.

986
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 1: We're gonna move this swan to where he's not bothered

987
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 1: by rowers, right, Um, I'm going to start a campaign.

988
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 1: I mean, to be fair, I feel like the swan

989
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 1: was there first, so maybe we should move out of that.

990
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 1: Either of that, I'm just saying because I'm pretty sure

991
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 1: that swan is gonna like any attempt to move that swan.

992
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 1: If I've learned anything from Hot Fuzz, it's impossible. Well,

993
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: I definitely think you have to drug the swan, right,

994
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: and then he just makes up in a beautiful pond

995
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 1: and there's no rowers. Have you seen Hot Fuzz? Yes,

996
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 1: but not in the long last time. They like keep

997
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: trying to chase find it swan and get it back

998
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 1: like a swan that's like on the loose, and then

999
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 1: like the whole danuma of the thing is when they

1000
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: realize it's not just one swan, and it's also not

1001
01:00:56,040 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 1: just one murderer. But if that, if that movie are

1002
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: more accurate, probably the swan would be the murderer the

1003
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: whole time. Oh man, that's ultimate twiz and that shan

1004
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 1: is gonna be good money about this. I mean to

1005
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 1: be fair. Statistically speaking, swans don't kill that many people, obviously,

1006
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 1: because it's super newsworthy when a person swans don't kill

1007
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 1: people swan's beaks and people with swans kill people people.

1008
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 1: So we've talked about cute things that can be aggressive,

1009
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 1: but what about cute aggression? So cute aggression is the

1010
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 1: feeling some of us get when we see something cute,

1011
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: like an unspeakably adorable puppy, where we get our teeth

1012
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 1: and clinch our fists and go, oh you you'll, I'm

1013
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 1: gonna smash you, want to eat you? So what's up

1014
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 1: with that? Though? The term cute aggression has only been

1015
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: popularized since there's a Filipino word called an excuse me

1016
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 1: pronunciation jagil that means quote, the gritting of teeth and

1017
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 1: the urge to pinch or squeeze something that is unbearably cute.

1018
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 1: So this is called a dimorphous display, meaning there's a

1019
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 1: mismatch between a positive feeling and a typically negative expression,

1020
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 1: sort of like when you're so happy you cry yale.

1021
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: Researchers found that people were more likely to pop bubble

1022
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 1: wrap and make aggressive expressions when faced with really cute images.

1023
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 1: They theorize that when you get too overwhelmed by something cute,

1024
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 1: the intensity of the emotions and the strength of the

1025
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 1: caretaker signal short circuits your brain. Both aggression and hugging

1026
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 1: could be approach responses that may be connected in the brain.

1027
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 1: It's just that the cute wato face you have a

1028
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 1: baby puppy overload your brain and mixes up your approach

1029
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 1: signal to go from gently pet to crutching schmoosh. When

1030
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 1: we get back, we'll talk about some innocent looking animals

1031
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 1: that will most certainly crush and smush you. So do

1032
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 1: you have a zoophobia? It's very common a phobia of

1033
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: some kind of animal. One of the most common phobias

1034
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 1: is arachnophobia, a fear of spiders, but this may not

1035
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 1: actually be warranted. Only around seven people die a year

1036
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 1: in the US of spider bites, if any at all

1037
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: in any given year. So for comparisons, staircases kill over

1038
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 1: a thousand people a year. In fact, when you really

1039
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 1: look at the numbers, some of the animals we fear

1040
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: are far less frightening than some we may overlook. Let's

1041
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 1: compare the terrifying shark with the adorable cow. Well, sharks

1042
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 1: kill only about seven people globally a year, whereas cows

1043
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 1: in the US kill around twenty two people a year

1044
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 1: by either stomping or going. Of course, a cow isn't

1045
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 1: inherently more aggressive or dangerous than a shark. Just statistically speaking,

1046
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 1: you're more likely to encounter a murderous cow than a

1047
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 1: murderous shark. But sometimes unexpected animals aren't just statistically more

1048
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 1: likely to kill you, but definitely are gunning for you

1049
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 1: far more than their scarier counterparts. We're about to reveal

1050
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 1: how some animals do you think are dangerous matchup against

1051
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 1: their real unexpected harrors. So we're about to match up

1052
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 1: some animals, and I mean, I think I've probably spoiled

1053
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 1: it with the theme of the episode, But who would

1054
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 1: you think is more dangerous a bear or a moose? Moose,

1055
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 1: you're very You're you're catching onto my whole tricky theme here. Well,

1056
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 1: it's just that I've also seen a moose and it

1057
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 1: was so fucking scary and big I was like, Oh,

1058
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 1: it's gonna funk up this car if it's like charges it.

1059
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 1: And so now I'm like, yeah, fuck a moose. Actually

1060
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 1: a lot of deaths regarding moose happened because they're in

1061
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 1: the road and it's a car accident, and it's just

1062
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 1: the moose is such a huge animal that the impact

1063
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 1: can kill the occupants of the vehicle. Yeah, and also

1064
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:57,919
Speaker 1: the yeah yeah, So Actually, Jesse Coltrane, a wildlife biologists

1065
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 1: told CBS News, quote, assume every moose is a serial

1066
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 1: killer standing in the middle of the trail with a

1067
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 1: loaded gun, which basically describes how capable these animals are

1068
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 1: of killing you. Um. So they're actually not more aggressive

1069
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 1: than bears. Um, but they do outnumber them, so you're

1070
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 1: much more likely to encounter them. Uh. In Alaska, ten

1071
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 1: people are attacked by moose a year, which is more

1072
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 1: than grizzly and black bears attacks combined. Um. Moose are

1073
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 1: generally gentle creatures, but not when they're mad at you.

1074
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 1: Not if you like scare them and they're they're just

1075
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 1: freaking giants. I think if you haven't seen one in person,

1076
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 1: it's hard to even contemplate how big they are. Um,

1077
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 1: So here's some stats. They're heavier than a bear, they're

1078
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 1: taller than a horse, and they can run up to

1079
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 1: thirty five miles per hour. Uh So if you upset

1080
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 1: a moose, you're just not in good shapes over buddy.

1081
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 1: So they will attack when provoked, but also when they're hungry.

1082
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 1: So uh, I really identified with that. Yeah. You know,

1083
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 1: like those those like Snickers commercials were like you turn

1084
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 1: into lies a maneli when you don't eat your Snickers.

1085
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 1: It's like these moose are just always lies a Maneli's

1086
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 1: like going like, ha, I'm big and my god, big knees. No,

1087
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 1: I'm so hungry. It's not really hum liesa moli talks

1088
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 1: really good. Linili, I'm a moose. Can I still do

1089
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 1: a falsey nuck? So if you you should not feed moose,

1090
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 1: and here's one reason. If you feed them and then

1091
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 1: they return to that spot where you fed them and

1092
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 1: they find no more food, they'll be pretty pissed. They'll

1093
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 1: get cranky and aggressive. Um, and when they start licking

1094
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 1: their lips. Uh, that's when you know they're agitated. Um so,

1095
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 1: and it's time to get out of there. When they're gone,

1096
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 1: all cool ja right, And I don't. The main thing

1097
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 1: is like try not to upset a moose, try not

1098
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 1: to like get into a moose's own um. But some

1099
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 1: sources have read have said, like if a moose is

1100
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 1: like just like if you see a moose and it

1101
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 1: looks like, don't approach it and like try to get

1102
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 1: away from it. Um, you want to like leave its territory. Um,

1103
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 1: it's not a predator, so generally speaking, I don't think

1104
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 1: it's gonna necessarily chase you if you like, if you

1105
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 1: scram so like with with some predators, you have to

1106
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 1: be careful because if you like kind of get out

1107
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 1: of there quickly, they will chase you. They're like challenge accepted.

1108
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 1: Like with bears, you're so supposed to kind of back right, Well,

1109
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 1: not always. It depends on the kind of bear. Um,

1110
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 1: some of them you're supposed to. Like with some of

1111
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:42,600
Speaker 1: the smaller bears, like you, I think playing dead is

1112
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 1: more successful. But like with grizzly bears, you're just like

1113
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 1: I think, or actually it might be don't listen to me,

1114
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 1: about bear safety. Just it's not a bear safety because

1115
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 1: it's not a safety podcast. But just like so, depending

1116
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 1: on the type of bear, you either want to back

1117
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 1: away or just ball up into a fetal position to

1118
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 1: protect yourself. And the same thing is true of moose.

1119
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 1: Like if a moose is stomping on you, you're supposed

1120
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 1: to like ball up into a fetal position and hope

1121
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 1: it stops. Um, but you know, John a sad plan.

1122
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 1: Don't take my word for it. Take a moose safety

1123
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 1: course before you tangle with a moose, which I co

1124
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:23,639
Speaker 1: incidentally teach. Maybe that's why you've invited me on. Oh yeah,

1125
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 1: that's right, your mooth safety court. Of course. It's like

1126
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 1: just like grab first of all, grab the moose by

1127
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 1: the testicles. I mean, um, like I said, it's a

1128
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 1: finger up the butt and fist up the butt for

1129
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:42,679
Speaker 1: the moose because it's very big. Don't don't never listen

1130
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 1: to don't listen to either of us. I'm Smedian. I

1131
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 1: have nothing to offer. There is a value. Don't stick

1132
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 1: a finger up a moose's But I can't believe I

1133
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 1: have to say this again. Um, just don't mess with moose.

1134
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 1: They're very big and they're they're tanks, and they'll they'll

1135
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 1: they'll they'll will give you they'll deliver good ass. What

1136
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 1: unto you is that? Um? So we mentioned to rachnophobia. Um,

1137
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 1: what what sort of uh small what small creature uh

1138
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 1: do you think could be as like? What other insect

1139
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 1: whether they're small creature do you think could be as

1140
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 1: dangerous as a spider? I mean so many things bite right,

1141
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 1: like sucking red ants bite like so many little tiny

1142
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 1: things by things that fly, I don't know, wasps, different

1143
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 1: kinds of I mean, wasps and bees are actually more

1144
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:45,560
Speaker 1: dangerous than spiders. Um. And there are some ants that,

1145
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:48,719
Speaker 1: while they're not necessarily deadly, the bullet ant will deliver

1146
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 1: an extremely painful bite that is, as its name kind

1147
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 1: of implies, feels like a bullet um. But actually, uh,

1148
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:02,679
Speaker 1: freshwater snails are far more dangerous than tarantula's other venomous

1149
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 1: spiders or even bees and wasps. Um. So, most spiders

1150
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 1: and tarantulas are pretty shy, and many of them are

1151
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 1: not even like, they don't even have a venom, and

1152
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 1: even those that do, most of them aren't deadly to humans. Um.

1153
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 1: So rarely do spider bites cause death? Um, some years

1154
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 1: there are just no recorded spider bite fatalities um fatality,

1155
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:35,600
Speaker 1: even in Australia, home of like just every animal that

1156
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:38,639
Speaker 1: wants to murder you. Uh, there hadn't been a recorded

1157
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:42,639
Speaker 1: fatality from spider bites for like almost forty years until

1158
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:47,560
Speaker 1: when someone was killed by a redback spider um. And

1159
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 1: the statistics on spider bites are kind of hard to

1160
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 1: come by because it's hard to like diagnose to spider bite.

1161
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:56,719
Speaker 1: But suffice it to say, it's not like an epidemic.

1162
01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:00,040
Speaker 1: Fatalities are likely to be in the single digits in

1163
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 1: the US per year um, and some years there's just

1164
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 1: like no no fatalities at Also, it's like an average

1165
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 1: over years, and I think I mentioned before it's around

1166
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:12,719
Speaker 1: like like six or seven a year, and then globally

1167
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:18,760
Speaker 1: it's probably pretty similar. But freshwater snails can cause snail fever,

1168
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 1: which is also known as and here we go, just

1169
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 1: toso maassis. That sounds really good. I trust you more

1170
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 1: than me on that one. I just had confidence that

1171
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 1: was really misplaced about this. Let's call it snail fever.

1172
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 1: Snail fever. We got a case of snail faver. Uh.

1173
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 1: It's caused by a parasitic flatworm found inside the snails.

1174
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 1: Um So, I guess you could actually blame the flatworm.

1175
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 1: That's not right, it's sort of a nesting doll of

1176
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 1: bad um. Uh So. The World Health Organization estimates that

1177
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 1: more than two hundred thousand deaths UH per year are

1178
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:03,680
Speaker 1: due to freshwater snails worldwide. UM. The diseases found in

1179
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 1: tropical countries in Africa, the Caribbean, South America, Southeast Asia,

1180
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 1: and the Middle East. Um and most of the deaths

1181
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:18,640
Speaker 1: occur in continental Africa. Um. And it's just like like

1182
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 1: it's sort of back to the cone snail where it's

1183
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 1: just very innocent. You don't think of snails as deadly.

1184
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 1: Um and yet they are way just in terms of

1185
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 1: numbers of deaths, they're way more deadly than spiders. All

1186
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 1: I think about them when you say snail, I think

1187
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 1: about accidentally stepping on that. Yeah, I know why I

1188
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:43,639
Speaker 1: didn't see you. Why would you be in my past?

1189
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 1: I know? I hate it. UM. I had Katie willert

1190
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 1: On and she's like she likes to rescue snails because

1191
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 1: she's just like, oh, imagine like you're so slow moving

1192
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 1: and then like God comes in and like picks you

1193
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 1: up and put you to safety. Um, but I I

1194
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 1: feel really guilty when I step on a snail. It's

1195
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 1: also not it's a hat gross, it's nasty. It makes

1196
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 1: me feel bad, which is like the worst sound I know.

1197
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 1: It's just like is that a fredo? Oh? No? And

1198
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 1: like I usually, you know, if you can see them,

1199
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:15,639
Speaker 1: you're always like, oh, let me move you around right away, buddy.

1200
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 1: But they also don't like to be moved, and you

1201
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:23,599
Speaker 1: like pull them and you're like, no, it's for good.

1202
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 1: I used to collect a bunch of snail, like when

1203
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:27,639
Speaker 1: I was a kid, I would like collect so many

1204
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 1: snails and then like but like they when you have

1205
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:33,719
Speaker 1: too many snails, it just makes your hand smell gross.

1206
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 1: What do they smell like? Snails? Just gross? Just gross.

1207
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:40,560
Speaker 1: They smell gross when there's too many of them and

1208
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 1: they're all pooping on you, it's not good. What's their poop? Like?

1209
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:47,679
Speaker 1: It's a little little little black sort of like brownish

1210
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 1: little tiny a goo. It's kind of goo, I guess,

1211
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 1: like sort of just like a little strands. So no,

1212
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 1: it's more like fish pooh or it's just like a

1213
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:58,639
Speaker 1: little strands because I don't know what pish fish pooze

1214
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 1: like at all strands of grossness. Also, when I was

1215
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 1: a kid, I according to my mom, when I was

1216
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 1: like a toddler, I would eat raw snails from the

1217
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 1: garden to stick them in my mouth and eat them

1218
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 1: so uh and she knew because I had like snail

1219
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 1: shell all over my mouth when I would like, come

1220
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 1: o god. Um, so maybe this is payback for eating

1221
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 1: the eating snails, like some kind of karmic payback. Um. Yeah,

1222
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 1: but it's it's a it's actually it's like a really

1223
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 1: serious uh disease that causes a lot of death. And

1224
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 1: it's interesting to me because we we have such a

1225
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:39,599
Speaker 1: cultural fear of spiders, but we don't know as it's

1226
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 1: just there's not as much information that is in the

1227
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 1: popular media about things like deaths caused by these these

1228
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 1: parasitic flatworms found in these innocuous looking snails. Mild I know.

1229
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 1: So you know how the Lion King is out right now?

1230
01:14:57,439 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 1: I have I have to admit I have not seen

1231
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:02,680
Speaker 1: the one yet. I have seen the old one. It's

1232
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 1: a delightful. It's a delightful romp that is super inaccurate. Um.

1233
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 1: So we're going to correct the record about some lion things.

1234
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 1: But first hippos versus lions, who do you think is

1235
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 1: the bigger badass hip size size wise, but also just

1236
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:24,160
Speaker 1: attitude wise and everything wise. Really um so, uh, just

1237
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 1: some of the numbers that I could scraunge up between

1238
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 1: two thousand four UM on average, only around forty people

1239
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:37,560
Speaker 1: were killed per year in uh Tanzania, UM, which is

1240
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 1: the country with one of the largest populations of lions. Um.

1241
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 1: And sort of I couldn't find really good statistics on this,

1242
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 1: but sort of the upper estimate that I found of

1243
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 1: total deaths per year of line from like line attacks

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01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 1: is around two that's you know, that's actually that's a

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01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 1: pretty good amount of lot. Yeah. Well, hippo's kill about

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01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 1: five hundred people per year in Africa. They are just

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01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:07,560
Speaker 1: all about They are very intense type a personality. So

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01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 1: historically the Zulu people of southern Africa have recognized the

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01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 1: hippo's clear dominance over lions. Uh. There's an old folk

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01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 1: song that goes, quote, he is a lion, yet he

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01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 1: is better than a lion. He is a hippopotamus. Yes,

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01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 1: And so they were savvy to how much better hippos

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01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:33,280
Speaker 1: were a just pure tank tank nitude. Um. So they're

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01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 1: extremely aggressive towards humans. Um. They'll often capsize boats and bite, crush,

1255
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:42,719
Speaker 1: or drown the humans in them. Uh. In two thousand fourteen,

1256
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 1: a hippo attacked a boat in Eastern I think it

1257
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 1: was so it was in a Niger and it killed

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01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 1: thirteen people, which was almost everyone on board. Wow. Um.

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01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:58,800
Speaker 1: They'll also raid crops near their territory, and they'll kill

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01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 1: humans who try to stop up them because I guess

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01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:06,879
Speaker 1: they love corn. It doesn't come to cook out hippos.

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01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what they actually what kind of crops

1263
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:12,679
Speaker 1: they prefer, but I have seen them like just crush

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01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 1: entire watermelons in their little mouths. They're so cute at

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01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 1: the zoo too. They like they're like they're cute. They're

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01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:22,800
Speaker 1: just like these you imagine they're from the Disney like

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01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 1: the you know that the Fantasia thing where they're all

1268
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:29,639
Speaker 1: ballerinas and they're like dancing around and they're adorable. Uh.

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01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 1: But you know, they weigh up to four thousand pounds,

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01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 1: which is about as much as a large suv. Um.

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01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 1: They can open their mouths at an hundred eighty degree

1272
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:42,799
Speaker 1: angle and listen to this. It has a bite strength

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01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:47,600
Speaker 1: of two thousand pounds per square inch, So for comparison,

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01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 1: lions only have about six hundred fifty pounds per square

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01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:55,599
Speaker 1: inch of jaw force. Um. And their teeth. The hippo's

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01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:58,720
Speaker 1: teeth can reach lengths of over a foot long, and

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01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 1: they're purely they're for combat and sexual competition and defense. Um.

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01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 1: They're not really used that much for eating. Um. Their

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01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 1: back molars are what are used for that. So um.

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01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 1: They also are we think of them as kind of blunt,

1281
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 1: like when you think of sort of the Disney cartoon.

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01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:19,720
Speaker 1: They're just sort of like blunt cylinders, but that is

1283
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 1: not true. Um. They are self sharpening as they scrape

1284
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 1: against each other in their jaw. And so I have

1285
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:27,880
Speaker 1: a creeure of a hippo skool, so you can see

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01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:31,720
Speaker 1: just how sharp they are. You can see, yeah, they

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01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:35,120
Speaker 1: come to points um and I'll probably post this picture

1288
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 1: up on our on our various sites. Are in the footnotes,

1289
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 1: but you can see it's like their their teeth are

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01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 1: serious business. They are sharp. Um. Uh. So they are

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01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 1: way more dangerous than lions. Uh, not just statistically, but

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01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 1: also just like I mean, I would kind of rather

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01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:55,560
Speaker 1: fight a lion than a hippo. I think if you

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01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 1: it's you versus hippo, there's no chance. If it's you

1295
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 1: versus lion, well there's still no chances. But I feel

1296
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 1: like maybe I could discourage the lion eventually, if I

1297
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:09,600
Speaker 1: survived long enough, the lion might think it's not worth it.

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01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:14,720
Speaker 1: Maybe depends depends on how sweet or flesh is, right,

1299
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 1: And also like if I can do sort of a

1300
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 1: Liam Nissan thing, right, attach a bunch of like little

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01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 1: broken like um sort of wine bottles like or not wine,

1302
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 1: you know those a little tiny those liquor bottles that

1303
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 1: you get the little the little uh like travel liquors

1304
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 1: or the like when the mini fridge. So if I

1305
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 1: had a mini fridge and I could just use the

1306
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:38,640
Speaker 1: weapons that I can craft from a mini fridge with

1307
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 1: a little tiny Schmirnoff like things, I would love to

1308
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 1: know where you are that there's a lion and also

1309
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 1: a mini fridge full of obviously vegas. Yeah. Um, so,

1310
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 1: speaking of lions, I wanted to cap off this show

1311
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 1: to uh kind of correct the record about lions because

1312
01:19:57,360 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 1: like they're obviously one of the most fear animals or

1313
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:04,840
Speaker 1: at least considered to be these very fearsome. Uh, and

1314
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 1: the lion king is spreading some mistruths about lions. Actually,

1315
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 1: since I haven't seen the new one, I don't know

1316
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 1: if they correct it, And this one I kind of

1317
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 1: doubt it. You know, I don't think anybody was screaming

1318
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 1: about the inaccuracy of the first one. I was my

1319
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:25,640
Speaker 1: loan voice screaming out um. And I actually so I was.

1320
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 1: I was helping out the Bechtel cows with us too,

1321
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 1: because they wanted, uh, they wanted some hot tips about

1322
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:33,560
Speaker 1: the lion king, so I gave them this. So you

1323
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 1: may have already heard, uh, some of these these really important,

1324
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 1: this very hot take I have on lions. If you

1325
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 1: listen to the test or yeah, if you or if

1326
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:44,840
Speaker 1: you haven't listened to it yet, go listen to their

1327
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 1: their podcast. It's brilliant. Um. So, first of all, let's

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01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 1: talk about lion king and gender dynamics. Yes, so prides

1329
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 1: are often thought to only contain one male in like

1330
01:20:57,479 --> 01:21:00,760
Speaker 1: a harem of females. But this isn't totally accurate. So

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01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:05,679
Speaker 1: there's a certain sort of subspecies of lions called savo lions,

1332
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 1: and they they do typically only contain a single adult

1333
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 1: male as a rule. Most other subspecies of a lions

1334
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 1: have prides uh, and there can be one male, but

1335
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:18,920
Speaker 1: they can have up to four males and they're typically

1336
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 1: brothers UM. And typically there is one dominant male who

1337
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 1: is allowed to mate uh and then there's several females

1338
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 1: in their cubs. So another kind of thing. I think

1339
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 1: that the line king gives this impression that the male

1340
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 1: lions are in charge and they're sort of the political

1341
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 1: leaders of the pride, and that's just not true. So

1342
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,920
Speaker 1: it's true that male lions are bigger and more powerful

1343
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 1: than their female counterparts, but female lions make up the

1344
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 1: core of a pride. UH. So males can come and

1345
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 1: go um a dominant alpha male and the pride will

1346
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:57,720
Speaker 1: eventually be ousted by a younger, more fit male or

1347
01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 1: males who will take a tenure at the pride. So

1348
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 1: it's just it's like a revolving door of male lions

1349
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:07,040
Speaker 1: basically UM. And it's not nepotistic. So his son isn't

1350
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 1: going to take over like Simba in the Lion King UM. Instead,

1351
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 1: Simba would probably go off and try to find his

1352
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 1: own pride. He'd get like kicked out when he was

1353
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:18,639
Speaker 1: a teenager and then go off, and it's hard to say,

1354
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:21,679
Speaker 1: like who's in charge of a lion pride. Both females

1355
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:25,160
Speaker 1: and males have roles, Like females do a lot of

1356
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 1: cub rearing and they do the majority of the hunting. Um. Which,

1357
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 1: like that's another thing I think in the Lion King

1358
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 1: to which is the one with have you did you

1359
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 1: see the other lion kings or just the one lion

1360
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 1: king the only one. There's like a couple of sequels

1361
01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 1: less are now And there's one where it's like Simba's

1362
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 1: daughter like meets like this bad boy lion who's like

1363
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:50,120
Speaker 1: scars sons as dumb. But you know, so like this

1364
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:55,599
Speaker 1: this boy lion Covu teaches Simba's daughter how to hunt,

1365
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 1: and that just doesn't make any sense. Like females are

1366
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 1: way better at hunting than male even despite their smaller size.

1367
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:05,600
Speaker 1: They're much more proficion in hunting. Um. Maybe because of

1368
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 1: their smaller size. I think it's also the social social

1369
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:11,600
Speaker 1: they're much more social. There's a lot more sort of

1370
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 1: like learning from each other and working as a group.

1371
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 1: They're more um they have a lot more sort of

1372
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 1: communication building, team building. Yeah, um, and so much so

1373
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 1: that actually prize our thought of as being matriarchal societies

1374
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 1: because the permanent social structure is maintained by females, whereas

1375
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 1: the presence of any one male is temporary. UM. So

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01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 1: another this is one you may have heard of, which

1377
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 1: uh is kind of gross, but in the Lion King UM,

1378
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:42,720
Speaker 1: in the structure that they have set up, Nola and

1379
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:46,439
Speaker 1: Simba would either be half siblings or cousins because as

1380
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 1: you notice, like there's Scar and Mufasa are the only

1381
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 1: lions UM and probably the way it works, like usually

1382
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:57,679
Speaker 1: there's just one dominant male who will mate, so probably

1383
01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 1: they would be half siblings um. And so it makes

1384
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 1: no sense for them to get together in the end

1385
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 1: um because like typically that genetic bottleneck of inbreeding is

1386
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 1: avoided by a dispersal where the male lions prefer to

1387
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:15,320
Speaker 1: move away from their uh natal pride uh in order

1388
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 1: to seek a new prider territory. So the most accurate

1389
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:20,760
Speaker 1: the movie got was when Simba like moved away from

1390
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:23,760
Speaker 1: the pride. But and it's like if he never came back,

1391
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:26,679
Speaker 1: like Scar had suggested, that would be way better because

1392
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 1: then he's not going to be in greening and yeah,

1393
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 1: and like dwindling the genetic pool to like, Yeah, it's nasty. Um. Also,

1394
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 1: females will gang up on intruder males who attempt to

1395
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:41,680
Speaker 1: take control of a pride. So if Scarr tried to,

1396
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:44,800
Speaker 1: you know, pull what he did, like, the female lines

1397
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:47,679
Speaker 1: would probably kill him. And he's like kind of scrawny,

1398
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:54,639
Speaker 1: so they probably could kill him. Um and uh so UM.

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01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 1: Just a few more uh short notes about the lion

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01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 1: king Raffii. It is called a baboon in the movie,

1401
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:04,400
Speaker 1: He's not He's a mandril. Um. Mandrels were once thought

1402
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:06,639
Speaker 1: to be baboons, but they now have their own genus,

1403
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 1: so that's wrong. Hyenas would never work with lions. Lions

1404
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 1: eat hyena cubs and sometimes vice versa, and lions will

1405
01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:19,760
Speaker 1: also steal hyena kills, so hyenas are not purely scavengers. Um. So.

1406
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 1: Sometimes hyenas will steal lion kills if they can get

1407
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 1: up on them, but often lions are the ones stealing

1408
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:30,639
Speaker 1: hyena kills. Um. And hyenas are matriarchal uh so they're

1409
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 1: actually a lot more nepotistic than lions. Where Um, females

1410
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 1: uh daughter will take control, like we'll have dominance over

1411
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 1: the pack. Um so actually, if you were placed move faster,

1412
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:49,400
Speaker 1: Simba and Scar with female hyenas, the movie would suddenly

1413
01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:54,519
Speaker 1: become way more accurate. Um right now, I know, like

1414
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:57,639
Speaker 1: do a move on dot Org thing where the lion

1415
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:01,799
Speaker 1: king is replaced with female hyenas. And in contrast, female

1416
01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 1: lions are actually a lot more democratic and egalitarians, so

1417
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:08,360
Speaker 1: it would not be a monarchy that doesn't make any sense. Uh,

1418
01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 1: And real lions would eat fucking Zazoo like in the

1419
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:16,720
Speaker 1: first It's just it's ridiculous, like that hornbill would be.

1420
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:22,120
Speaker 1: It would be just like an order of Really, I

1421
01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 1: wouldn't even notice, just wouldn't even pay attention to that

1422
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 1: annoying British voice, just like, hey, Mr Kane, we we've

1423
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:32,800
Speaker 1: got a problem. And you know, I'm such a worry

1424
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 1: what and they just eat them? I mean, I think

1425
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 1: Scar did try. Scars the real hero. He's really trying to, like,

1426
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 1: I mean, he's trying to feed the hyenas. He's trying

1427
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:45,080
Speaker 1: to like get some equality with the hyenas, and he's

1428
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 1: trying to eat the hornbill is as God intended. I

1429
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 1: mean hashtag Scar did nothing wrong. Yeah, I didn't know

1430
01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:56,680
Speaker 1: I would come here and tried to keep Simba from

1431
01:26:56,760 --> 01:27:01,600
Speaker 1: inbreeding scars the real Tarro, I mean, and honestly, I

1432
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 1: just could never forgive him for mu Fosta's death. So

1433
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 1: I just feel like all of this is sacrilegious. I mean,

1434
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:09,880
Speaker 1: but that's also very normal line behavior, like killing the

1435
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:12,839
Speaker 1: alpha male. Look, I wish Mufossa was my dad. Okay,

1436
01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 1: I wish the guy who voices Mufossa was my It's

1437
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:20,960
Speaker 1: like my cool grandpa or my cool uncle. You know.

1438
01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:26,599
Speaker 1: James Earl Jones. Yea, his voice is amazing. It's it's

1439
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:29,400
Speaker 1: like such a good voice. God if I if I like,

1440
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:33,120
Speaker 1: I would love to grow up listening to that voice

1441
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:40,639
Speaker 1: every night, going like like good night, Luke, um your

1442
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:43,200
Speaker 1: He never actually says Luca, I am your father. He

1443
01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:48,799
Speaker 1: just says, no, Luke, I am your father. Because couple

1444
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:52,640
Speaker 1: really always get it wrong. Yeah, because yeah, so you know,

1445
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:55,760
Speaker 1: James Earl Jones, Is he a lion? Is he an

1446
01:27:55,760 --> 01:28:01,439
Speaker 1: actual lion? What James Earl Jones like real life? Yeah? Yeah,

1447
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 1: it's not a man but a lion? Yeah, I believe it. Nice? Nice?

1448
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:14,680
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Uh? They can find me

1449
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:19,600
Speaker 1: on Twitter and Instagram. Um At the Sophia spelled s O,

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Speaker 1: podcast about love and sexuality around the world with Nasty

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Speaker 1: You can find us on the internet at so there's

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Speaker 1: Creature feature pod dot com. That's our website. Um. You

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Speaker 1: can find us on Twitter at Creature feet Pod and

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Speaker 1: on Instagram at Creature Feature Pod. I'm Katie Golden. You

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Speaker 1: can find me on Twitter at Katie Golden and also

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Speaker 1: government five birds. Thank you so much for listening. If

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Speaker 1: recycle reuse and do not inject yourself with cone snail venom.

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Speaker 1: All right, bye, you guys, see you next Wednesday. And

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