WEBVTT - Vanessa Hudgens ON: Manifesting Love & Finding Confidence From Within 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:03.400 It's taken so many years of like reflection and growth 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:07.280 and like doing all the uncomfortable work to shape me 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:09.799 into the person that I am. And I look back 0:00:09.800 --> 0:00:12.000 and I'm like, I'm so grateful for all of it. 0:00:12.280 --> 0:00:15.880 But like by leaning in and like not putting them 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:18.759 into like a storage unit in my mind, but like 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:24.200 actually processing them and like growing and evolving from it 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:28.680 has allowed me to have confidence in myself because I'm 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:37.479 just like I know that I'm enough. Hey, everyone, welcome 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:40.400 back to On Purpose, the number one health podcast in 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:42.760 the world. Thanks to each and every one of you 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:46.280 that come back every week to listen, learn, and grow. 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:48.720 Now you know that I love sitting down with friends, 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:51.680 people that have connected with people that I share space 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:56.400 and energy with on this podcast. But sometimes something funny happens. 0:00:56.680 --> 0:00:58.440 I have a guest on who I feel I know 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:02.760 I've connected them with them several times digitally, virtually, but 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:05.640 never physically, and then finally when I get to experience 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:09.160 their energy in person, I just go, yeah, this is 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:12.800 my kind of person. And today's guest is someone that 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:17.320 feels just like that. Her name, of course, is Vanessa Hudgins, 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:22.280 an American actress, singer, entrepreneur and producer. After making her 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:25.959 feature film debut in thirteen, she rose to fame portraying 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:29.880 Gabrillo Montez in the High School Musical film series, which 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:33.840 brought her significant mainstream success. Since the release of her 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:37.840 studio albums and the High School Musical franchise, Vanessa has 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:43.319 focused on her acting career. She's appeared in films like Bandslam, Beastly, 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:47.960 Sucker Punch, Journey to the Mysterious Island, Spring Breakers, The 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:51.840 Princess Switch, Second Act, and Bad Boys for Life. She 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:55.520 also launched her beverage business, Callie Water, a line of 0:01:55.600 --> 0:02:00.600 Cactus water, and her own skincare brand, No Beauty, Welcome 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:04.720 to the Show, My Dear Friend, and becoming a Deeper Friend. 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:11.760 Vanessa Hudgens and our beautiful Darla, thank you for me. 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:15.799 And you're so good at this. Wow. Oh I just 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:17.880 I meant all of it. You've had this, you know. 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:20.600 I Actually I grew up watching high school musical because 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:22.480 of my sister. I'm a sister that's four and a 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:25.160 half years younger than me. Yeah, she loves you, loves 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:27.640 high school musical, So I watched it through her lands 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:31.040 yea and a connecting thing for the two of you. Yeah, 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:35.919 exactly exactly. And then obviously we connected through Joe and 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:38.720 our Zen zone. Yeah, which is so funny, which is 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:42.519 just amazing what Joe started and built. It's so incredible. 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:44.680 It's like, if it wasn't for that, I never would 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:47.079 have met Cole. I know, yes, and that, and then 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:50.320 I'm like, hallelujah. So you are officially giving me and 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:55.600 Joe the credit. No, yes, completely. Actually, it wouldn't be 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:58.160 a thing if it wasn't for you, guys, for Joe, 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:01.120 for Joe. Joe, you can take all the credit you 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:03.760 deserve it. Darla, I just do want to acknowledge you 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:08.680 are the first ever dog to appear on a purpose. 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:12.919 She jumped up here and seated herself like a human. 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:14.959 I know. I'm so grateful she's here. She's such a 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:19.120 beautiful energy too, and I'm so happy she's lady. I 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:21.160 was told that she was a French girl in the 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:25.360 past life. Oh that's very cool. Well, this is the thing, Vanessa, 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:28.440 that you know, I think when people view you from afar, 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:32.280 of course, you have this amazing career. You do an 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:34.920 incredible job, whether you're hosting, whether you're acting. With you 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:37.200 I thought you were awesome and bad boys for life. 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:39.680 Thank you. I love the movie, of course, you know, 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:43.000 just how your roles and those characters evolved into the 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:46.400 franchise was amazing. You're doing so many incredible things with 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:48.480 Callie Water, and I know we've got so many other 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:51.920 things to talk about, but I think for me, what 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:55.080 got me deeply intrigued in you and wanting this conversation 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:57.880 with you is the conversations we had through zen Zone. 0:03:58.280 --> 0:03:59.480 And so for those of you who don't know what 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:01.960 zen Zone is, this is something that Joe Jonas had 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:05.400 the idea for at the beginning of the pandemic. And 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:07.240 you can tell me how you heard about it, because 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:10.920 I don't know how. So Joe reached out to me 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:14.320 and he said to me that we did this meditation 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:18.039 as part of a charity event for the WE Foundation, 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:20.680 and I was asked to teach meditation. Me and Joe 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:22.919 had never met before we were on this live I 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:25.400 lead this meditation and Joe said he had a great time. 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:28.039 We got introduced over text. He texted me and said, Hey, 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:30.720 we're doing We're getting to my friends this Saturday. It's 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:32.960 the pandemic. I'd love for you to teach a meditation. 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:35.680 I was like, sure, I thought we'd do it once. 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:38.640 We've now done it every week for seventy five weeks. 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:40.320 We've had a bit of a hiatus for the last 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:43.080 couple of months, and he would just invite his friends 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:46.280 and I hadn't even met him, let alone everyone. That's 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:49.120 where I met you, And for anyone who doesn't know, 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:51.440 I lead a meditation, but then I opened it out 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:54.599 to a beautiful group of people to reflect share their insights. 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:57.440 And we did this every week during the pandemic. And 0:04:57.480 --> 0:05:00.400 when you'd come on and you'd talk and share your election, 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:04.560 I was just like, I had no idea that Vanessa 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:09.560 had this like intentional mindful practice in her life. And 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:12.360 I was so that was so endearing and intriguing. But 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:17.120 tell us about how you Me and Alexander Ship were 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:21.640 both working on Tick Tick Boom. Yes, um, and we 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:26.080 like had the rehearsal space and then we had to 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:29.960 shut down production because of COVID and locking down and everything, 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:32.599 and um, when we finally got back to it, it 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:35.600 was in September, like pre vaccine, so we were in 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:39.200 like a bubble. But we She was like, I've been 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:42.279 doing this meditation I think that you would really enjoy it, 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:46.560 and I'm like, so down love a meditation um and 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:48.640 I got on there and I was just like, oh 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:51.919 my god, this is so beautiful. And your meditation that 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:56.360 you lad was so so like grounding and centering and 0:05:56.480 --> 0:06:00.040 just like fulfilling for my soul, and I was like, 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:03.080 oh my god, this is amazing. And then I remember 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:06.520 I got added to the group chat, and then we 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:10.880 got sent the zoom. For the next zoom, Everyone's sending 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:15.320 confirmations of himself, like Joe's sending one, Wilmer sends one, 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:18.280 I send one. And then I thought someone was making 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:20.839 a joke by sending a baseball player sliding onto a 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:25.080 base and lifting his head and going like so I 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:28.920 was like hot and responded in all cabs hot. And 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:31.200 then I got on the zoom and Alex was sitting 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:33.800 next to me, and I remember seeing Cole and just 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:37.400 being like, who's that and She's like, I don't know, 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:39.400 and then like he smiled, and then I was like 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:43.440 who's that. She's like, I don't know. I found like 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:45.960 his name and then like found him on Instagram and 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:49.839 sent follow and then I was like, oh, he's the 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:54.640 baseball player hilarious, larious. Well, I already shot my shot, 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:57.200 so he knows. And then later I come to find 0:06:57.200 --> 0:07:00.960 out that like he was watching me hit al and 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:03.279 he was like, there's either like something on my face 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:06.520 or like this girl hates me, or like I don't know, 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:10.120 but he could like see me. Because it's like that meditation. 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:13.600 Everyone's like sitting and like so still, and I'm here 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:19.000 like slapping Alex, like losing my mind. But it's been 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:21.920 so beautiful, Like I love the practice so much, and 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:25.000 it's so it's so nice having you there leading the 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:28.480 charge and just like feeling so safe in this space 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:32.600 to like reflect and to hear how different things affects 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:35.880 each other and like listening to each other, and the 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:40.120 reflection is so conducive to growth. So it's just like 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:43.679 been so beautiful. I'm so grateful of it. You're genuinely 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:46.600 so kind. I really appreciate those beautiful words. But I 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:50.240 find it fascinating that this beautiful relationship for you as involved. 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:53.360 We'll talk about that, but I'm surprised we haven't yet 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:55.800 had one. So Joe also comes up with funny zen 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:59.560 names for every episode, So I think we've had Zandia 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:03.920 had I mean, there's so many I have to look through. 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.800 But we haven't had a Vanessa Hudson. We haven't done that. 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:08.800 We haven't done that yet. I have to throw that 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:11.720 out to him as an option for the next one. 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:15.880 He hasn't done that yet. No, But but when did you? 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:18.600 When I when I heard your reflections, I was like, Okay, 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:21.160 Vanessa has been in this space for a long time, 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:24.200 like spirituality, whatever you call it, I'd love to hear 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:26.960 it through your language. I was like, Oh, she she's 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:30.320 involved being. This is something she has invested in for 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:33.160 many years before this. This is not her first meditation. 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:36.560 This is part of her life. When did any of 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:38.719 these ideas get introduced to you? And how did they 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:43.360 exist in your world? I'm genuinely fascinating. Yeah, I mean 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:49.079 I feel like I've always been a meditative person. I 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:53.640 remember I used to live in San Diego and I 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:55.840 my parents would drive me up to Alway all the 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:59.439 time for auditions. Um, and it's a long drive, and 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:02.120 I was like three enough hours. And I'm young, I'm 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:06.160 probably like eight years old, nine years old, And I 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:10.080 remember one time just sitting with the window down, like 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:13.640 feeling the breeze on my face, just like clear mind 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:16.960 staring out and my dad being like, what are you 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:23.000 thinking about? I was like, literally nothing. And then I 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:25.840 think that as I got older, that moment, for some 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:28.920 reason would come back to me and I was like, oh, man, 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:31.800 like am I stupid? Like does that mean that I 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:34.560 have nothing going on in my mind? And then as 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:37.720 I continued to evolve, the more that I realized that 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:40.800 was a state of zen, a state of peace, and 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:45.000 like meditation practice is something that has naturally just like 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:48.800 come for me. I feel like I started actually getting 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:54.640 introduced to it when I was probably sixteen. I was 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:59.720 in Brazil. This was like after high school musical had 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:03.040 come out and me and zac Efron were dating and 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:07.080 we went to this island like in Brazil somewhere and 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:09.880 it was a magazine and they were like, we can 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:12.720 offer you yoga classes if you want, and I was like, oh, 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:14.640 I've never done, though, like I'd love to try. I'm 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:16.840 always down to try new things. And I remember it 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:21.480 was like outside under this canopy of trees and it 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:25.600 was like the first time that I feel like I 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:29.839 had a mindful practice where I was like aware of 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:33.240 what I was actually doing and I just became hooked. 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:34.960 I remember I was like, straight off the bat, I 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:37.200 was like, I think I need to become a yoga instructor. 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:41.400 I think that's just something that literally I was like, 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:45.000 I'm sold. And then I think that like that really 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:49.560 led to like mindfulness and like practice, and and then 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:55.320 when did meditation actually come into play? Honestly, probably Deepak Chropra. 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:59.400 I feel like, yeah, I feel like I came across 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:04.319 like an audio something of his on meditations, and I 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:07.400 remember doing that and just being like, oh wow, there's 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:11.680 like so much here, and like noticing how it affected 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:17.720 my everyday life and just my state of mind. And yeah, 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:21.920 it's like I feel like the sit down to actually 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:26.920 meditate doesn't fully happen that often, which is why I 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:28.959 love our zend Zone, because I get gives me a 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:33.439 reason to actually do it. But the state of mindfulness, 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:35.920 I think, is something that is carried into so many 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:41.760 different aspects of spirituality, and spirituality itself has been like 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:45.280 such an evolving journey for me. I mean, I remember 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:49.160 I was how old as I was filming Journey to 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:53.920 the Mysterious Island, and I was on the Big Island 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:57.200 where they shot Jurassic Park, and so it's just like 0:11:57.400 --> 0:12:01.800 beautiful rolling mountains. It's like dunning. And I remember thinking 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:05.920 to myself, like, oh, like I am spiritual because I 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:12.120 don't can't like relate anymore to religion practices that were 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:15.720 instilled with me as a child. But like, I feel 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:18.080 so much and I know that I'm a part of 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:21.240 something bigger, and I feel like vibration of the land, 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:25.480 and I just feel connected to spirit and then that 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:29.960 itself has evolved so much, and like I feel like 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:33.160 I'm back at that place where I'm like, I am very, 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:38.240 very spiritual. I take time to connect to my spirit 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:42.400 but also spirit around me, and I make sure I 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:48.160 take time to connect to nature. And I give praise 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:51.960 when magic happens, because it happens all the time, and 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:55.560 I feel like it's so important to acknowledge it and 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:59.040 to give it gratitude because then it starts coming into 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:01.560 your life so much more. It's just it's like it's 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:05.080 really insane when you start acknowledging them. How like it's 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:12.679 it's an abundance of magic. Wow, I'm I'm like that 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:15.760 is so infectious. It's just it's so true though, and 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:19.320 like it's so beautiful because then you're filling your life 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:23.280 with like this, these moments of wonder. Yeah, and like 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:26.920 I think that's so important as an adult because it's children. 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:29.319 We have that all the time. Yeah, but like as 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:31.559 you grow up, you kind of forget how important it 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:34.200 is to have that. Yeah, I'm like such a big kid. 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:38.360 Yeah that like she's always like a child at heart. 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:41.760 But like wonderment, I think is something that's so important 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:44.480 for the soul. I couldn't agree more. I love that, 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:49.720 And I think it's when I think about wonder and childlikeness, 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:52.240 it's the same as what I feel my wife's brought 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:54.720 back into my life. And I felt for so long 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:57.280 I started to take life too seriously or I was 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:00.560 very I was very focused, and yeah, man, the woman 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:05.080 to bring him back. And my wife has just bought 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:08.880 this like childlike energy back in my life, and it's 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:11.520 something you have to protect totally. I feel like the 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:14.000 childlike energy is something you have to nurture and protect 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:18.839 in yourself, in the people you love, totally, your inner 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:23.240 child like I remember that being like a big, big 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:25.880 wake up moment for me. I think it was in 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.600 like Larry Moss's acting classes. I was doing like one 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:31.880 of his intensive workshops, and he talks about how important 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:36.200 it is to like nurture your inner child, because there 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:38.720 we all have that. We all have that like little 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:41.240 boy or a girl inside of us that's like kind 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:45.360 of scared at times, but it's like so explorative and 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:49.280 like has wonderment. But you have to nurture that, and 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:53.400 if you don't, like it gets neglected, and you can't 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:58.240 neglect your inner child. Definitely. Do you think that's what's 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:01.960 I mean for yourself? Like you've been in the industry 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:06.440 a long time now, since you're extremely young, and I 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:10.880 feel like you've been great like navigating it with grace 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:16.080 and pivoting and figuring things out. And obviously from the 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:17.560 time we've been getting to know each other through his 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:19.880 zen zone and even today, I can tell that there's 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:23.200 so much thoughtfulness and so much clarity for you. Do 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:26.680 you think that nurturing that inner child is what has 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:30.000 helped you navigate a very tough industry or what has 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:33.280 that been? What? I feel like that's definitely part of it, Yeah, 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:40.239 for sure, because it allows me to stay extraordinarily passionate 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:45.320 about my loves, which is like everything you know, like 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:47.880 in my work and in my life and in the 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:50.800 way I spend my time. But I think the thing 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:56.000 that honestly has kept me going is accepting change and 0:15:56.120 --> 0:16:02.120 evolving and knowing that ever lucition is like a positive thing, 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:07.160 and leaning into the like scary scary things that like 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:12.840 could hurt me, and and like just constantly re evaluating 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:18.800 what it is to be a human in this experience 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:22.520 and like who do I want to be? Because it's 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:25.880 like that's genuinely like a choice you like have. We 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:28.640 have so many choices every single day on like how 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:33.160 we build our character, how we present ourselves to the world, 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:37.080 And like, I feel like I've had multiple moments where 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:39.960 I've had to like really look at myself and reassess 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:43.800 and say what kind of woman do I want to be? 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:48.280 And like who am I? Truly? Like what is my core? 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:53.400 What is what are my values? And I feel like 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:57.400 it's just allowed me to feel really confident and strong 0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:01.440 in who I am as a person, because I think 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:05.280 that that's that's where a lot of people have difficulties 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:08.679 in Hollywood, because you end up like morphing into different 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:14.359 people because it's a it's a tough grind, but because 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:18.080 people morph into the roles they play. They morph into 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:21.760 the role they have to play portray totally. They morph 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:24.160 into the role that their manager or their agent thinks 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:26.919 they need to be, or the person who came before 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:29.480 them that they're trying to be. Like totally, there's all 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:32.679 these identities. Totally, Yeah, you're trying to morph into that. 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:35.720 It's hard to remember your own I guess what was 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:39.080 a formative experience at a younger age that you think 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:42.719 has given you a sense of groundedness as you've gone on. 0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:46.640 Were there any formative experiences as you at any point 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:49.920 in your childhood or no, I mean many teenagers. I 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:53.119 don't know why. I don't know if this is like 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:59.480 actually first is the best best. I was the kid 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:04.160 that loved playing in the dirt, you know, Like I 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:06.920 was always the kid that was like in the garden, 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:11.600 like grabbing like pieces of plants and like smushing them 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:14.719 together and like having the flowers and like doing like 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:18.840 little collages and the dirt. Like I've always like been. 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:22.200 I feel like I've always felt very connected to earth, 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:25.960 And I look back at it now and I'm just 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:29.760 like it's so funny because and now I'm I like 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:35.399 love practicing like witchcraft and having rituals and like playing 0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:37.640 and being a part of Earth and connecting with it 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:39.920 is such a big part of it. And I'm just like, oh, wow, 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:43.199 she was always there. Yeah, she was always there. She 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:46.920 was always playing in the dart. But yeah, like I 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:49.400 feel like I also was raised in a way where 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:51.240 like my parents didn't have a lot. My dad was 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:54.480 a firefighter. My mom was from the Philippines, like came 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:57.120 out to the stage when she was twenty four with 0:18:57.119 --> 0:18:59.760 my dad and it was like the first man she'd 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:02.119 ever even been with, like first guy actually ever kissed, 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:07.080 like crazy. Um. But I was raised very modestly, So 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:09.960 I think that like that definitely shaped me into who 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:12.520 I am because I'm very mindful about like where I 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:16.119 spend my money and and like what I'm doing with 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:20.200 it and like, but like it also I think makes 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:23.680 me work harder and want to do the work myself, 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:29.320 do the dirty work. He was bringing it back. I 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:33.040 love it. But yeah, like because that's just like my character, 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:36.440 that's how I was raised. Yeah, that's that's beautiful to hear. 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:39.280 And uh, I'm going to ask you now to define 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:42.000 what witchcraft is for the end, you know, for those 0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:45.040 who may not be aware and those rituals because I think, 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:48.000 as you say those words, i'd love you to extrapolate 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:49.840 them because I've seen so I've seen you post when 0:19:49.880 --> 0:19:53.000 you get new tattoos, and it's cool, but I would 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:56.320 love I'd love for you to explain that totally. I 0:19:56.359 --> 0:20:00.120 think like being a witch genuinely is like so many 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:04.560 different things for each person. To me, it's it's a 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:10.560 mindfulness for sure. Um, it's connecting to your elements. Um. 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:16.880 It's about understanding the fact that everything is energetic and 0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:21.160 we can push and pull things, um, if we set 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:24.240 our mind to it and ask for it. Um. It's 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:29.000 a lot of manifesting on which m and rituals are. 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:32.240 Like I love like a full moon ritual where I'll 0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:36.040 like sage my space and like cleanse my energy and 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:40.000 my aura and then like ask my angels and my 0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:42.840 ancestors and my spirit guides to be there with me 0:20:42.880 --> 0:20:47.480 and to help carry out my message. And then like 0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:51.160 honestly writing things down on some baileys and burning them. 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:55.680 It's really exciting because it burns, and like it's really 0:20:55.840 --> 0:21:00.400 it's like it really catches flame. Yeah, it feels magical, um, 0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:03.399 But like it's like connecting to earth and like to 0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:09.439 spirit and like tapping in Yeah, because I feel like 0:21:09.480 --> 0:21:13.359 you really can. Yeah. I mean I love hearing that 0:21:13.400 --> 0:21:16.280 because I think when people hear the word witchcraft or 0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:20.560 which is we have a very dated view, yes, stigmatized ye, 0:21:20.800 --> 0:21:23.199 where you hear a witch and like people are like 0:21:23.320 --> 0:21:26.080 burner at the state exactly. And I mean I grew 0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:30.000 up in London where one of the attractions to visit 0:21:30.040 --> 0:21:32.760 as a tourist was the London Dungeons. Yeah, And so 0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:35.040 you'd go to see these London dungeons and they would 0:21:35.080 --> 0:21:39.200 show you how women and many women who are wrongly 0:21:39.200 --> 0:21:41.760 accused of being witches and of course witches in the 0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:46.400 stigmatized or the negative senses we've seen portrait in movies 0:21:46.440 --> 0:21:48.879 and things like that. Yeah, and you'd see how they 0:21:48.880 --> 0:21:51.840 would be burned and the kind of dungeons that they 0:21:51.840 --> 0:21:53.480 had to stay in and the states that is in. 0:21:53.560 --> 0:21:55.600 And now obviously when you say the word, you're looking 0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:58.679 at it from like the good witch, like you know, 0:21:58.760 --> 0:22:02.679 like Thetate shit, yeah exactly, joy and kindness and like 0:22:02.680 --> 0:22:06.080 that's the modern witch. Yes, yes, And redefining that word 0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:09.760 is so important because language, I think today is so 0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:12.560 much of the reason we have disagreement, one of the 0:22:12.600 --> 0:22:15.199 reasons why we don't understand each other. And when you 0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:17.080 start to explaining what the witches, I'm like, yeah, that's 0:22:17.119 --> 0:22:21.560 like what's the witch in um Blender? Yes, exactly, that's 0:22:21.600 --> 0:22:24.960 exactly what that's it. And I was like, yeah, she 0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:27.280 was a witch and she's called a witch in the movie. 0:22:27.520 --> 0:22:30.960 But when you think about it, the witch, you remember her, right, 0:22:31.359 --> 0:22:33.679 And so it's so fascinating when you think about it 0:22:33.720 --> 0:22:36.119 from that way. What if I love those rituals you 0:22:36.200 --> 0:22:39.240 just walked us through. When you're doing those rituals or 0:22:39.240 --> 0:22:42.720 when you've built those practices up, what has given you 0:22:42.800 --> 0:22:45.040 strength to believe that they have an impact? Is it 0:22:45.119 --> 0:22:47.320 something you feel, is it something you've heard? Is it 0:22:47.400 --> 0:22:50.600 is it a connection? Like how do you go? Yes, 0:22:50.720 --> 0:22:53.240 this works for me, This matters in my life. I 0:22:53.280 --> 0:22:56.879 feel like it's such an intuitive thing. Yes, And like 0:22:56.920 --> 0:22:58.960 I said, I was the little girl playing in the 0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:03.879 dirty mushing curves and it does. It feels it feels 0:23:03.880 --> 0:23:08.960 really grounding and connecting to me, and like I've manifested 0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:13.119 for years and like, if you're very clear and intentional 0:23:13.359 --> 0:23:16.840 on what you want, you have a much better chance 0:23:16.840 --> 0:23:20.760 at getting it can tell can you tell us one 0:23:20.800 --> 0:23:23.760 that it feels worth sharing that? Yeah? I mean, like 0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:29.400 even like Cole, like I I was very clear, very 0:23:29.520 --> 0:23:35.200 intentional about what it is exactly. It's like I was like, 0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:39.280 I want someone who, oh man, I wish I have 0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:43.880 I literally have like a list. Um. It was I 0:23:43.960 --> 0:23:51.320 want someone who loves themselves wholeheartedly. Um, someone who understands 0:23:51.440 --> 0:23:55.400