1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: It's taken so many years of like reflection and growth 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: and like doing all the uncomfortable work to shape me 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: into the person that I am. And I look back 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm so grateful for all of it. 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: But like by leaning in and like not putting them 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: into like a storage unit in my mind, but like 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: actually processing them and like growing and evolving from it 8 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: has allowed me to have confidence in myself because I'm 9 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: just like I know that I'm enough. Hey, everyone, welcome 10 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: back to On Purpose, the number one health podcast in 11 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: the world. Thanks to each and every one of you 12 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: that come back every week to listen, learn, and grow. 13 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: Now you know that I love sitting down with friends, 14 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: people that have connected with people that I share space 15 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: and energy with on this podcast. But sometimes something funny happens. 16 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: I have a guest on who I feel I know 17 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: I've connected them with them several times digitally, virtually, but 18 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: never physically, and then finally when I get to experience 19 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: their energy in person, I just go, yeah, this is 20 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: my kind of person. And today's guest is someone that 21 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 1: feels just like that. Her name, of course, is Vanessa Hudgins, 22 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: an American actress, singer, entrepreneur and producer. After making her 23 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: feature film debut in thirteen, she rose to fame portraying 24 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: Gabrillo Montez in the High School Musical film series, which 25 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: brought her significant mainstream success. Since the release of her 26 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: studio albums and the High School Musical franchise, Vanessa has 27 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: focused on her acting career. She's appeared in films like Bandslam, Beastly, 28 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: Sucker Punch, Journey to the Mysterious Island, Spring Breakers, The 29 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: Princess Switch, Second Act, and Bad Boys for Life. She 30 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: also launched her beverage business, Callie Water, a line of 31 00:01:55,600 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: Cactus water, and her own skincare brand, No Beauty, Welcome 32 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: to the Show, My Dear Friend, and becoming a Deeper Friend. 33 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: Vanessa Hudgens and our beautiful Darla, thank you for me. 34 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: And you're so good at this. Wow. Oh I just 35 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: I meant all of it. You've had this, you know. 36 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: I Actually I grew up watching high school musical because 37 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: of my sister. I'm a sister that's four and a 38 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: half years younger than me. Yeah, she loves you, loves 39 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: high school musical, So I watched it through her lands 40 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: yea and a connecting thing for the two of you. Yeah, 41 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: exactly exactly. And then obviously we connected through Joe and 42 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: our Zen zone. Yeah, which is so funny, which is 43 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 1: just amazing what Joe started and built. It's so incredible. 44 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: It's like, if it wasn't for that, I never would 45 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: have met Cole. I know, yes, and that, and then 46 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, hallelujah. So you are officially giving me and 47 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: Joe the credit. No, yes, completely. Actually, it wouldn't be 48 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: a thing if it wasn't for you, guys, for Joe, 49 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: for Joe. Joe, you can take all the credit you 50 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: deserve it. Darla, I just do want to acknowledge you 51 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: are the first ever dog to appear on a purpose. 52 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: She jumped up here and seated herself like a human. 53 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 1: I know. I'm so grateful she's here. She's such a 54 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: beautiful energy too, and I'm so happy she's lady. I 55 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: was told that she was a French girl in the 56 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: past life. Oh that's very cool. Well, this is the thing, Vanessa, 57 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: that you know, I think when people view you from afar, 58 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: of course, you have this amazing career. You do an 59 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: incredible job, whether you're hosting, whether you're acting. With you 60 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: I thought you were awesome and bad boys for life. 61 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: Thank you. I love the movie, of course, you know, 62 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: just how your roles and those characters evolved into the 63 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: franchise was amazing. You're doing so many incredible things with 64 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: Callie Water, and I know we've got so many other 65 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: things to talk about, but I think for me, what 66 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: got me deeply intrigued in you and wanting this conversation 67 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: with you is the conversations we had through zen Zone. 68 00:03:58,280 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: And so for those of you who don't know what 69 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: zen Zone is, this is something that Joe Jonas had 70 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: the idea for at the beginning of the pandemic. And 71 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: you can tell me how you heard about it, because 72 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: I don't know how. So Joe reached out to me 73 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: and he said to me that we did this meditation 74 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 1: as part of a charity event for the WE Foundation, 75 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: and I was asked to teach meditation. Me and Joe 76 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 1: had never met before we were on this live I 77 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: lead this meditation and Joe said he had a great time. 78 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: We got introduced over text. He texted me and said, Hey, 79 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: we're doing We're getting to my friends this Saturday. It's 80 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: the pandemic. I'd love for you to teach a meditation. 81 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: I was like, sure, I thought we'd do it once. 82 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: We've now done it every week for seventy five weeks. 83 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: We've had a bit of a hiatus for the last 84 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: couple of months, and he would just invite his friends 85 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: and I hadn't even met him, let alone everyone. That's 86 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: where I met you, And for anyone who doesn't know, 87 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: I lead a meditation, but then I opened it out 88 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: to a beautiful group of people to reflect share their insights. 89 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: And we did this every week during the pandemic. And 90 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: when you'd come on and you'd talk and share your election, 91 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: I was just like, I had no idea that Vanessa 92 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: had this like intentional mindful practice in her life. And 93 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: I was so that was so endearing and intriguing. But 94 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: tell us about how you Me and Alexander Ship were 95 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: both working on Tick Tick Boom. Yes, um, and we 96 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: like had the rehearsal space and then we had to 97 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: shut down production because of COVID and locking down and everything, 98 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: and um, when we finally got back to it, it 99 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: was in September, like pre vaccine, so we were in 100 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: like a bubble. But we She was like, I've been 101 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: doing this meditation I think that you would really enjoy it, 102 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: and I'm like, so down love a meditation um and 103 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: I got on there and I was just like, oh 104 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 1: my god, this is so beautiful. And your meditation that 105 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: you lad was so so like grounding and centering and 106 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 1: just like fulfilling for my soul, and I was like, 107 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: oh my god, this is amazing. And then I remember 108 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: I got added to the group chat, and then we 109 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: got sent the zoom. For the next zoom, Everyone's sending 110 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: confirmations of himself, like Joe's sending one, Wilmer sends one, 111 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: I send one. And then I thought someone was making 112 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: a joke by sending a baseball player sliding onto a 113 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: base and lifting his head and going like so I 114 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: was like hot and responded in all cabs hot. And 115 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: then I got on the zoom and Alex was sitting 116 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: next to me, and I remember seeing Cole and just 117 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: being like, who's that and She's like, I don't know, 118 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: and then like he smiled, and then I was like 119 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: who's that. She's like, I don't know. I found like 120 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: his name and then like found him on Instagram and 121 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: sent follow and then I was like, oh, he's the 122 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: baseball player hilarious, larious. Well, I already shot my shot, 123 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: so he knows. And then later I come to find 124 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: out that like he was watching me hit al and 125 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: he was like, there's either like something on my face 126 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: or like this girl hates me, or like I don't know, 127 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: but he could like see me. Because it's like that meditation. 128 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: Everyone's like sitting and like so still, and I'm here 129 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: like slapping Alex, like losing my mind. But it's been 130 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: so beautiful, Like I love the practice so much, and 131 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: it's so it's so nice having you there leading the 132 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: charge and just like feeling so safe in this space 133 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: to like reflect and to hear how different things affects 134 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: each other and like listening to each other, and the 135 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: reflection is so conducive to growth. So it's just like 136 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,679 Speaker 1: been so beautiful. I'm so grateful of it. You're genuinely 137 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: so kind. I really appreciate those beautiful words. But I 138 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: find it fascinating that this beautiful relationship for you as involved. 139 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that, but I'm surprised we haven't yet 140 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: had one. So Joe also comes up with funny zen 141 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: names for every episode, So I think we've had Zandia 142 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: had I mean, there's so many I have to look through. 143 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: But we haven't had a Vanessa Hudson. We haven't done that. 144 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: We haven't done that yet. I have to throw that 145 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: out to him as an option for the next one. 146 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: He hasn't done that yet. No, But but when did you? 147 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: When I when I heard your reflections, I was like, Okay, 148 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: Vanessa has been in this space for a long time, 149 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: like spirituality, whatever you call it, I'd love to hear 150 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: it through your language. I was like, Oh, she she's 151 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: involved being. This is something she has invested in for 152 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: many years before this. This is not her first meditation. 153 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: This is part of her life. When did any of 154 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 1: these ideas get introduced to you? And how did they 155 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: exist in your world? I'm genuinely fascinating. Yeah, I mean 156 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 1: I feel like I've always been a meditative person. I 157 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: remember I used to live in San Diego and I 158 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: my parents would drive me up to Alway all the 159 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 1: time for auditions. Um, and it's a long drive, and 160 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: I was like three enough hours. And I'm young, I'm 161 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: probably like eight years old, nine years old, And I 162 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: remember one time just sitting with the window down, like 163 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: feeling the breeze on my face, just like clear mind 164 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: staring out and my dad being like, what are you 165 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: thinking about? I was like, literally nothing. And then I 166 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: think that as I got older, that moment, for some 167 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: reason would come back to me and I was like, oh, man, 168 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: like am I stupid? Like does that mean that I 169 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: have nothing going on in my mind? And then as 170 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: I continued to evolve, the more that I realized that 171 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: was a state of zen, a state of peace, and 172 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: like meditation practice is something that has naturally just like 173 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: come for me. I feel like I started actually getting 174 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: introduced to it when I was probably sixteen. I was 175 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: in Brazil. This was like after high school musical had 176 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: come out and me and zac Efron were dating and 177 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: we went to this island like in Brazil somewhere and 178 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: it was a magazine and they were like, we can 179 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: offer you yoga classes if you want, and I was like, oh, 180 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: I've never done, though, like I'd love to try. I'm 181 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: always down to try new things. And I remember it 182 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: was like outside under this canopy of trees and it 183 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: was like the first time that I feel like I 184 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 1: had a mindful practice where I was like aware of 185 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: what I was actually doing and I just became hooked. 186 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: I remember I was like, straight off the bat, I 187 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: was like, I think I need to become a yoga instructor. 188 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: I think that's just something that literally I was like, 189 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: I'm sold. And then I think that like that really 190 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: led to like mindfulness and like practice, and and then 191 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 1: when did meditation actually come into play? Honestly, probably Deepak Chropra. 192 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, I feel like I came across 193 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 1: like an audio something of his on meditations, and I 194 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: remember doing that and just being like, oh wow, there's 195 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: like so much here, and like noticing how it affected 196 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: my everyday life and just my state of mind. And yeah, 197 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: it's like I feel like the sit down to actually 198 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: meditate doesn't fully happen that often, which is why I 199 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 1: love our zend Zone, because I get gives me a 200 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 1: reason to actually do it. But the state of mindfulness, 201 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: I think, is something that is carried into so many 202 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: different aspects of spirituality, and spirituality itself has been like 203 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: such an evolving journey for me. I mean, I remember 204 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: I was how old as I was filming Journey to 205 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: the Mysterious Island, and I was on the Big Island 206 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: where they shot Jurassic Park, and so it's just like 207 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: beautiful rolling mountains. It's like dunning. And I remember thinking 208 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: to myself, like, oh, like I am spiritual because I 209 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: don't can't like relate anymore to religion practices that were 210 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: instilled with me as a child. But like, I feel 211 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: so much and I know that I'm a part of 212 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: something bigger, and I feel like vibration of the land, 213 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: and I just feel connected to spirit and then that 214 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: itself has evolved so much, and like I feel like 215 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: I'm back at that place where I'm like, I am very, 216 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: very spiritual. I take time to connect to my spirit 217 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: but also spirit around me, and I make sure I 218 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: take time to connect to nature. And I give praise 219 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: when magic happens, because it happens all the time, and 220 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: I feel like it's so important to acknowledge it and 221 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: to give it gratitude because then it starts coming into 222 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: your life so much more. It's just it's like it's 223 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: really insane when you start acknowledging them. How like it's 224 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: it's an abundance of magic. Wow, I'm I'm like that 225 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: is so infectious. It's just it's so true though, and 226 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: like it's so beautiful because then you're filling your life 227 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: with like this, these moments of wonder. Yeah, and like 228 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: I think that's so important as an adult because it's children. 229 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 1: We have that all the time. Yeah, but like as 230 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 1: you grow up, you kind of forget how important it 231 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: is to have that. Yeah, I'm like such a big kid. 232 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: Yeah that like she's always like a child at heart. 233 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: But like wonderment, I think is something that's so important 234 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: for the soul. I couldn't agree more. I love that, 235 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: And I think it's when I think about wonder and childlikeness, 236 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: it's the same as what I feel my wife's brought 237 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: back into my life. And I felt for so long 238 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: I started to take life too seriously or I was 239 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: very I was very focused, and yeah, man, the woman 240 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: to bring him back. And my wife has just bought 241 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: this like childlike energy back in my life, and it's 242 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: something you have to protect totally. I feel like the 243 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: childlike energy is something you have to nurture and protect 244 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 1: in yourself, in the people you love, totally, your inner 245 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: child like I remember that being like a big, big 246 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: wake up moment for me. I think it was in 247 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: like Larry Moss's acting classes. I was doing like one 248 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: of his intensive workshops, and he talks about how important 249 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: it is to like nurture your inner child, because there 250 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: we all have that. We all have that like little 251 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: boy or a girl inside of us that's like kind 252 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: of scared at times, but it's like so explorative and 253 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: like has wonderment. But you have to nurture that, and 254 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: if you don't, like it gets neglected, and you can't 255 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: neglect your inner child. Definitely. Do you think that's what's 256 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: I mean for yourself? Like you've been in the industry 257 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: a long time now, since you're extremely young, and I 258 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: feel like you've been great like navigating it with grace 259 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: and pivoting and figuring things out. And obviously from the 260 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: time we've been getting to know each other through his 261 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: zen zone and even today, I can tell that there's 262 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: so much thoughtfulness and so much clarity for you. Do 263 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: you think that nurturing that inner child is what has 264 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: helped you navigate a very tough industry or what has 265 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: that been? What? I feel like that's definitely part of it, Yeah, 266 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:40,239 Speaker 1: for sure, because it allows me to stay extraordinarily passionate 267 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: about my loves, which is like everything you know, like 268 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: in my work and in my life and in the 269 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: way I spend my time. But I think the thing 270 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: that honestly has kept me going is accepting change and 271 00:15:56,120 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: evolving and knowing that ever lucition is like a positive thing, 272 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: and leaning into the like scary scary things that like 273 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: could hurt me, and and like just constantly re evaluating 274 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: what it is to be a human in this experience 275 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: and like who do I want to be? Because it's 276 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: like that's genuinely like a choice you like have. We 277 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: have so many choices every single day on like how 278 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: we build our character, how we present ourselves to the world, 279 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: And like, I feel like I've had multiple moments where 280 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: I've had to like really look at myself and reassess 281 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: and say what kind of woman do I want to be? 282 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: And like who am I? Truly? Like what is my core? 283 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: What is what are my values? And I feel like 284 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: it's just allowed me to feel really confident and strong 285 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: in who I am as a person, because I think 286 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: that that's that's where a lot of people have difficulties 287 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 1: in Hollywood, because you end up like morphing into different 288 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: people because it's a it's a tough grind, but because 289 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: people morph into the roles they play. They morph into 290 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: the role they have to play portray totally. They morph 291 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: into the role that their manager or their agent thinks 292 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 1: they need to be, or the person who came before 293 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: them that they're trying to be. Like totally, there's all 294 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: these identities. Totally, Yeah, you're trying to morph into that. 295 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: It's hard to remember your own I guess what was 296 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: a formative experience at a younger age that you think 297 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,719 Speaker 1: has given you a sense of groundedness as you've gone on. 298 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: Were there any formative experiences as you at any point 299 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: in your childhood or no, I mean many teenagers. I 300 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: don't know why. I don't know if this is like 301 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: actually first is the best best. I was the kid 302 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: that loved playing in the dirt, you know, Like I 303 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: was always the kid that was like in the garden, 304 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: like grabbing like pieces of plants and like smushing them 305 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,719 Speaker 1: together and like having the flowers and like doing like 306 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: little collages and the dirt. Like I've always like been. 307 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: I feel like I've always felt very connected to earth, 308 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: And I look back at it now and I'm just 309 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: like it's so funny because and now I'm I like 310 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: love practicing like witchcraft and having rituals and like playing 311 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 1: and being a part of Earth and connecting with it 312 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 1: is such a big part of it. And I'm just like, oh, wow, 313 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 1: she was always there. Yeah, she was always there. She 314 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: was always playing in the dart. But yeah, like I 315 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 1: feel like I also was raised in a way where 316 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: like my parents didn't have a lot. My dad was 317 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: a firefighter. My mom was from the Philippines, like came 318 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 1: out to the stage when she was twenty four with 319 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: my dad and it was like the first man she'd 320 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: ever even been with, like first guy actually ever kissed, 321 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: like crazy. Um. But I was raised very modestly, So 322 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: I think that like that definitely shaped me into who 323 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: I am because I'm very mindful about like where I 324 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: spend my money and and like what I'm doing with 325 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: it and like, but like it also I think makes 326 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: me work harder and want to do the work myself, 327 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: do the dirty work. He was bringing it back. I 328 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: love it. But yeah, like because that's just like my character, 329 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: that's how I was raised. Yeah, that's that's beautiful to hear. 330 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: And uh, I'm going to ask you now to define 331 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: what witchcraft is for the end, you know, for those 332 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: who may not be aware and those rituals because I think, 333 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: as you say those words, i'd love you to extrapolate 334 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: them because I've seen so I've seen you post when 335 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: you get new tattoos, and it's cool, but I would 336 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: love I'd love for you to explain that totally. I 337 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:00,120 Speaker 1: think like being a witch genuinely is like so many 338 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: different things for each person. To me, it's it's a 339 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: mindfulness for sure. Um, it's connecting to your elements. Um. 340 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 1: It's about understanding the fact that everything is energetic and 341 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 1: we can push and pull things, um, if we set 342 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: our mind to it and ask for it. Um. It's 343 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: a lot of manifesting on which m and rituals are. 344 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: Like I love like a full moon ritual where I'll 345 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: like sage my space and like cleanse my energy and 346 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: my aura and then like ask my angels and my 347 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: ancestors and my spirit guides to be there with me 348 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: and to help carry out my message. And then like 349 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: honestly writing things down on some baileys and burning them. 350 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: It's really exciting because it burns, and like it's really 351 00:20:55,840 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: it's like it really catches flame. Yeah, it feels magical, um, 352 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: But like it's like connecting to earth and like to 353 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 1: spirit and like tapping in Yeah, because I feel like 354 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: you really can. Yeah. I mean I love hearing that 355 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: because I think when people hear the word witchcraft or 356 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: which is we have a very dated view, yes, stigmatized ye, 357 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 1: where you hear a witch and like people are like 358 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: burner at the state exactly. And I mean I grew 359 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: up in London where one of the attractions to visit 360 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: as a tourist was the London Dungeons. Yeah, And so 361 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: you'd go to see these London dungeons and they would 362 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: show you how women and many women who are wrongly 363 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: accused of being witches and of course witches in the 364 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 1: stigmatized or the negative senses we've seen portrait in movies 365 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 1: and things like that. Yeah, and you'd see how they 366 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: would be burned and the kind of dungeons that they 367 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: had to stay in and the states that is in. 368 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: And now obviously when you say the word, you're looking 369 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 1: at it from like the good witch, like you know, 370 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 1: like Thetate shit, yeah exactly, joy and kindness and like 371 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: that's the modern witch. Yes, yes, And redefining that word 372 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: is so important because language, I think today is so 373 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: much of the reason we have disagreement, one of the 374 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 1: reasons why we don't understand each other. And when you 375 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: start to explaining what the witches, I'm like, yeah, that's 376 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: like what's the witch in um Blender? Yes, exactly, that's 377 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: exactly what that's it. And I was like, yeah, she 378 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: was a witch and she's called a witch in the movie. 379 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: But when you think about it, the witch, you remember her, right, 380 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 1: And so it's so fascinating when you think about it 381 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: from that way. What if I love those rituals you 382 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: just walked us through. When you're doing those rituals or 383 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: when you've built those practices up, what has given you 384 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: strength to believe that they have an impact? Is it 385 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: something you feel, is it something you've heard? Is it 386 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: is it a connection? Like how do you go? Yes, 387 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: this works for me, This matters in my life. I 388 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: feel like it's such an intuitive thing. Yes, And like 389 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: I said, I was the little girl playing in the 390 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: dirty mushing curves and it does. It feels it feels 391 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: really grounding and connecting to me, and like I've manifested 392 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: for years and like, if you're very clear and intentional 393 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: on what you want, you have a much better chance 394 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: at getting it can tell can you tell us one 395 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: that it feels worth sharing that? Yeah? I mean, like 396 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 1: even like Cole, like I I was very clear, very 397 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: intentional about what it is exactly. It's like I was like, 398 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: I want someone who, oh man, I wish I have 399 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 1: I literally have like a list. Um. It was I 400 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: want someone who loves themselves wholeheartedly. Um, someone who understands 401 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 1: the importance of like having a good time. Someone who 402 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: has like the right priorities in life, you know, like 403 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 1: has the same fundamentals as me, um, which is like 404 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: you live, you don't what is it You don't live 405 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: to work? No, you don't live to work, work to live? 406 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Like someone who understands like the 407 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: importance of life outside of work. There's a whole list, 408 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: but literally when I met Cole, I was like, you 409 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: literally check all my boxes. What I love about your 410 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: list though, And that's why I asked you because I 411 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: expected that your list that is the most mature, refined 412 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: list I have ever heard of, because because most lists 413 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: do not go that deep like that. That is a 414 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: very genuinely and I'm not saying this to flatter you 415 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: at all. I'm genuinely saying it because I hear a 416 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: lot of lists in my coaching work and when I'm 417 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: with clients and over the years, people that I've worked 418 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: with and lists, those are all like incredible attributes which 419 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: show your self awareness of who you are and what 420 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: you need in your life. But they're also not so 421 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: specifically defined that it's kind of very difficult that that exists. 422 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: If that makes sense. It's not like I want this 423 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: and I want that and he should have this, and 424 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: it's not stuff about he should have no, No, it's 425 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 1: about his mindset and his belief system. Walk us through 426 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: how do you assess and assesses the wrong word, because 427 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: in a relationship, you're not assessing someone. How do you 428 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: engage with someone in a way to know that those 429 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: things exist within them? And I'm asking you this for 430 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,959 Speaker 1: yourself because I find that sometimes people may make a 431 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: list or they have a list, And first of all, 432 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:47,719 Speaker 1: I would like to remind anyone if you are going 433 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: to make a list, think about Vanessa's list and just 434 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: think about how I'm trying to find the right word 435 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: to define your list. I would say that it is 436 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: extremely mindset bay and it's extremely an approach to life. Yeah, 437 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: you're looking with someone who has a specific approach to 438 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: life exactly. Yeah, it's not that they have a specific 439 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: life very true? Yeah right, yeah does that make And 440 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 1: so how did you you know ascertain that Cole had 441 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: some of these things? Because I think what often happens 442 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: is when we get attracted to someone, or we feel 443 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: a sense of infatuation, or we feel some chemistry or 444 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: a spark with someone, often that ability to ascertain whether 445 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 1: we're really going to be a good match goes out 446 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: the window totally. How are you able to hold both? 447 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: Because I think we do need attraction and chemistry of course, 448 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: But at the same time you're saying, well, I was 449 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: able to assess that he does have satin. Yeah, I 450 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: mean I was in an eight year long relationship before him. Um. 451 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 1: So after that, I was like, okay, we're getting serious, 452 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: Like we are going to make a list of things 453 00:26:54,520 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: that I need, like genuinely like not one but actually need. Um. 454 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: And with some of it it was being very straightforward, um, 455 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: with like my questions as to like how he goes 456 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: about life, and then in other ways it was just 457 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: like really observing him and like genuinely his approach to life, um, 458 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 1: like he has like an infectious spirit, and I'm like, 459 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: that is something that is so beautiful and so wonderful, 460 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 1: and I'm like I see myself in that as well. 461 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: But like we just like had the same the same spirit, 462 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 1: and I think that, like straight off the bat, I 463 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: was very forthright with like what it is that I 464 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: want in a relationship, and like I was like, cool, 465 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: so you're down, you you're into those things as well. 466 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: Love that, but like just being very straightforward, like you 467 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 1: plan on getting married one day, Like you plan on 468 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: having kids? You like kids? What's your relationship with your parents? Like, 469 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: what's your relationship with your friends? How do you enjoy 470 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 1: your work? Like everything just like diving in because like 471 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: if you don't like those things get lost in the 472 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: shuffle and then you end up investing time on people 473 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 1: that you shouldn't. Is that date one? Yeah? I am 474 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: so happy hearing you say that. I and I just 475 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 1: want everyone to know that while we're having this conversation, 476 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: I do not know this story in depth the way 477 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: Venus is explaining it, So this is also my first 478 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: reaction to it. I am so happy hearing you say that, 479 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 1: Like it gives me so much assurance and confidence in 480 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: what I hope people will do to find love in 481 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: their life. Yeah. I did the same with RADI. We 482 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: had the same conversations. We talked about children, we talked 483 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: about our values, we talked about our beliefs, we talked 484 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: about expectations. I was very clear with rather of the 485 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: man that I think I am and the man that 486 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: I didn't want to be. I was clear about what 487 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: my aspirations and priorities were and what I wouldn't be 488 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: able to prioritize exactly. And it was uncomfortable to say 489 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: those things. Scared that like, well, maybe this person is 490 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: going to run away totally when they hear what I'm 491 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: actually like, Yeah, but then if they stay exactly and 492 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: they actually signed on for and it's like you give. 493 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: Like my my sister actually it does a podcast as well, 494 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: and I was like listening to it the other day 495 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: and she was like, it's so important to like tell 496 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: your friends or your partner if something's bothering you, because 497 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: then you give them the opportunity to adjust, like otherwise 498 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: they don't know. Shout out cell and that's crazy, that's crazy. Okay, 499 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: listen to that episode. What was the episode about it 500 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: was about this, Um, what was that one about? Just 501 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: like friends and like you know, feeling foamo it? Yeah, no, 502 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: because it's it's also just like I know that we 503 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: got a message, Um, I think you send it to 504 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: my team saying kind of bring Dalla today. Yeah, and 505 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: I love that you said that, And I'm so glad 506 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: she came because I would have been so sad if 507 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: I as a friend. It's like if you if you 508 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: felt that, but then you didn't tell me. Yeah, totally 509 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: I know, And then I got to ask you just 510 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: gotta you just gotta know, Like, and I'm so happy 511 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: she's here and I'm so happy to meet her, and yeah, 512 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: and when you told me the reason you like, I've 513 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: been traveling and I haven't seen it for like that 514 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: is so beautiful, Like why would you not? But we're 515 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: so we're so scared, yeah, of showing that side of 516 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: ourselves to someone and being like this is what I 517 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: need and honoring our truths. Yes, I think, like it's 518 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:26,239 Speaker 1: so easy to disregard our truths when you like have 519 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: a thought and you're like, oh, like I wish that 520 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: this would happened, and like but no, like it shouldn't matter, 521 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: like it's it's okay, it's fine. I don't really care, 522 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: and like you don't honor your truth, and so I 523 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: feel like it's something that you have to be actually 524 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,719 Speaker 1: mindful about and to like really listen to your intuition 525 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: and like your inner voice, your inner child, Like you 526 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: really have to like honor all of yourself because if 527 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: you're not, then you're suppressing yourself, and then it's going 528 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: to seem okay for someone else to suppress you because 529 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: you're doing it to yourself. Yes, wow, that is that's 530 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: so true. Yeah, that is so true. That and then 531 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: that's just like a toxic tale starts off topic and 532 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: that's the point, right. It's like if you plant a 533 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: toxic seed exactly, like that's what's going to grow. Yes, 534 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: And it's really hard to then switch to a rosebush 535 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: or you know, to grow a beautiful tree or plant 536 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: or whatever it is. Like, I wonder, then how do 537 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: you then navigate obviously when you do that, when you 538 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: are like, well, here's what I'm looking for and here's 539 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: what's important to me, how do you then navigate it 540 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: when you don't necessarily align or agree? How have you 541 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: dealt with that? Because I think that's another healthy thing 542 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: to think about. I think we often have this romantic 543 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: view of manifestation totally, and I don't think that's what 544 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: you're suggesting. But I think a lot of people at 545 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: this romantic view that when you're clear, you get exactly 546 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: what you want the way you want it. I don't 547 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: think that's what you no, no, no, no, no, that's 548 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 1: definitely not the case as well. Like I think that 549 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: like everything does come back, yes, not always in the 550 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,719 Speaker 1: way that you expect it to exactly, not always at 551 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: the time that you wanted to, but it always does 552 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: in one form of the And I like, I truly 553 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: believe that, and I like see that happening because I'll 554 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: sometimes I'll ask for something and I'm like, oh my gosh, 555 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: that's so funny. That's not like how I expected it 556 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: to come, like like you know, like our on our zoom, 557 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: like a tiny little like screen, not like at all 558 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: when I was like expecting at all, but like it's 559 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: it's the best thing that's ever happens to me. Um. 560 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: So I feel like it always it always comes back around. Um. 561 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: But like the mindfulness is like so important. Yeah, I mean, 562 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: I I love hearing about it. And I can't wait 563 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: to see you both together and I can't wait to 564 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: hang out. Who by the way, for anyone who doesn't know, 565 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: he'll join the meditation when he's like on the field, 566 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: like he'll be like in this stance, he'll be, you know, 567 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: walking to a game, like you'll be driving to get 568 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: whatever it is, and he's he's always on. And I 569 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: think there's so much to be said for that as well, 570 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: to find people in places of similar values. I've always 571 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: been a great encourager of that, is that you're going 572 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: to find people when you're doing things that you're both 573 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: passionate about and you're not going there to date. Like 574 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: it's so funny. I literally was on the phone with 575 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: my friend Vince this morning and I was thinking about it, 576 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: and I was like, it's so funny because I feel 577 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: like all my best relationships have like such an interesting 578 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: story as to how we met. Like my friend Vince, 579 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: who I was on the phone with, we met in 580 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: a yoga class. Wow, and he's like one of my 581 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: best friends. My other best friend Gigi, we met like 582 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: in Bali because I was there with Oakley, like doing 583 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: a surf thing. Even though I'm not a surfer, but 584 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, I'm all about like trying new 585 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: things and having new experiences because I feel like it 586 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: builds character and it's also just like a great time. 587 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: But like it was like one of those moments as well. 588 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: And then like me and Gigi sat across from each 589 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: other at the table and we like locked eyes and 590 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: we were like, I see you. I see you in 591 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: a way that's like different, like my soul sees you. Yeah, 592 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: and like it's just so many of my relationships. I'm like, 593 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: it's so funny. How like you put yourself into the 594 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: right place, in a place of love and you will 595 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: attract it. Yeah, definitely, And this is GG you do 596 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:13,240 Speaker 1: workouts with, right, Yes, yes, a lot of things together, 597 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: a lot of things in the work during quarantine, we 598 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: like really put our minds together and we're like, let's 599 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: be creative, Like let's let's keep the ball rolling, and 600 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: we like we developed an animated show. We developed like 601 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: a reality show for ourselves. We like wrote a future 602 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 1: with our friend and we're just like yeah, I know, 603 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: but like all because we sat across from each other 604 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 1: in Bali, that's incredible and I love that that's a 605 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: recurring pattern in your life. Oh. Completely that the deepest 606 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: relationships you have, whether it's Vince or Gig as you 607 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: said now, call that they've come from these places where 608 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: you weren't looking for that. Yeah. And so I think 609 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 1: we often hear this idea of like, you don't have 610 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 1: to look for love, and that's not what we're saying. 611 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: What we're saying is that you often find it in 612 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: a place of mutual value when you're loving yourself and 613 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: honoring yourself. Yeah, that's that's the key, That's exactly it. 614 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: And and and so much happens when you spend time in 615 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: places of purpose totally. Like I feel like when you're 616 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: going there for a purpose based reason, yeah, you're more 617 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: likely to have this synergy happen. Oh my gosh, the 618 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: amount of stuff that happened to me when I went 619 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 1: to Paris for fashion week on my own was like 620 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,760 Speaker 1: just what I felt like I had team for months, 621 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: but like it was just so cool because I'm like, 622 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 1: Paris Fashion Week is something that I wanted to go 623 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 1: to for a long time, and I was like, you 624 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: know what, I'm going to go on my own because 625 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: like it'll like it'll really like put me in there 626 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: and I and I love that, Like I love those 627 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: solo moments where I'm just like out there in the 628 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: wilderness on my own, and like you meet people and 629 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: like connect with people, and I'm like, some of my 630 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 1: favorite memories that I've had like have been because I've 631 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: gone places on my own. How what's given you that? 632 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: I love hearing that because I'm the kind of person. 633 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 1: So rather he's been away for three months and we 634 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: haven't seen each other. I miss it. Yeah, And she's 635 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: coming back in a month and I miss it. So 636 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: it will be four months since we've seen each other, 637 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: and I cannot wait. I'm about to throw her apart 638 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: when she comes back and like fill on, like you know, 639 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 1: we're going to go away and all the rest of 640 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: it catch up and make make up for a last time. 641 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: But I find that I'm the kind of person that 642 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: will take myself out for a three course meal and 643 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: I go away and go out or whatever. It is. 644 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: What has given you the confidence in doing things alone? 645 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: Because I think that is such a healthy habit. I'm 646 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 1: not saying that people should spend all the time alone 647 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: and no, no, no, but how have you developed that habit? 648 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 1: Is it just by practice? Is it just by throwing 649 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: yourself out there, or now it sounds like it's something 650 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: you intentionally do, like Paris Fashion Week. Yeah, I'm sure 651 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 1: you could have taken anyone you wanted to take, but 652 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: you went on your own. Yeah. I feel like my 653 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 1: first solo trip was when I was like, it was 654 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: right after I did a stint of like really heavy, 655 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: emotionally demanding movies. I think Give Me Shelter was the 656 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 1: last one of that, and I came home and I 657 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: like genuinely did not know who Vanesso was. I had 658 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: like gotten so off on becoming this other person and 659 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:27,720 Speaker 1: like genuinely changed my mindset the way that I looked. 660 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: I put on like twenty pounds, cut off all my hair, 661 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 1: like all the things that made me me were not 662 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: there anymore. And I was like, I need to do 663 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:42,439 Speaker 1: something because I'm like scared because I don't know who 664 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,800 Speaker 1: I am. And I was like, Okay, We're going to 665 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 1: go on a yoga retreat. Of my publicist at the 666 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 1: time was like, either's this retreat. They're doing it the 667 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 1: four seasons. It was like a practice, and I was like, Okay, 668 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna like go on my own because that 669 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 1: scares me. And I was very much in that place 670 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: of like do the things that scare you, because you 671 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 1: will evolve, like you're forced to um. And I was like, 672 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: you know, like a yoga retreat in Hawaii, like pick 673 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 1: gives me an excuse to be in Hawaii, but also 674 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: like have something to do and like know that I'll 675 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: be around people because like filming as well as an adult, 676 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: Like when I hit eighteen, I would go off to 677 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 1: film things all the time, and I would be on 678 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 1: my own, and so like if I wanted to go 679 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 1: to dinner, like a lot of times, I would just 680 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 1: go by myself and like bring a book, and I 681 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 1: definitely would have those moments where I'm like looking around 682 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 1: like kind of trying to like lock eyes and engage 683 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 1: with anyone. Probably would sit at the bar so I 684 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 1: could like talk to the bartender because like I love 685 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: I love people like I love I love just like 686 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 1: talking to people. Yeah, but you start using a different 687 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: part of your brain when you do that, Like you 688 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: start using a different part of your energy where it's like, oh, 689 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 1: I'm gonna see if I can make something out of nothing. Yeah, 690 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 1: exactly said that you lose as we get older, that's 691 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: because most of your life is surround about the same people, 692 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 1: same work people, same life people, and so like when 693 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I'm trying to talk to the bartender 694 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 1: or I'm trying to look even the idea of locking 695 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:14,359 Speaker 1: eyes with someone random overcome. Yeah, but it's favorite thing. 696 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: I literally will like be driving and like well like 697 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: turn and just like look at people if I'm stopped 698 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: at a red light, and like try to like dance 699 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: with people. The other day, this guy was like listening 700 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 1: to a song. We had our windows down, he had 701 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 1: his windows down, and me and my girlfriend were just 702 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: like body well and like just like lock and I 703 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: was trying to make this person laugh, like it's I 704 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,720 Speaker 1: love that. But the trip the yoga retreat in Hawaii 705 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 1: ended up just being like so freeing because I was 706 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: just like okay, like I'm here on my own, like 707 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,760 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna like talk to people that I connect 708 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 1: with and like go from there, and like genuinely forced 709 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: me to stay as present as possible because I was 710 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: engaging with people I know nothing about. I feel like 711 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 1: that's the thing I love about talking to people that 712 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: you don't know, Like you're forced to be present because 713 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 1: It's like if you're actually trying to engage, which not 714 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: everybody that Yeah, and then those are the people you 715 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: don't need to engage with. But when you find people 716 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: who you can like, it's you say, you're so present 717 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: because you're actually listening. Yeah. What I love about hearing 718 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 1: about your life that I'm learning about you today by 719 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,879 Speaker 1: being present with you is just you. You are very 720 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 1: present because you have all these beautiful memories, and I 721 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,399 Speaker 1: find like these are not ideas in your life. They're 722 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 1: not like just concepts that you intellectually understand. It's like, 723 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 1: I feel like your whole life is an experience. Oh 724 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:39,840 Speaker 1: I went to fashion week because it is, and I 725 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 1: was in this place because to have deep memories, you 726 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 1: have to be deeply present totally, because otherwise you forget 727 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 1: where you were last week or where you were even 728 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,320 Speaker 1: yesterday totally. And so how have you become more present? 729 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,839 Speaker 1: I mean, how have you practiced that? Or is you've 730 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 1: been like that? Obviously it sounds like, but it's also 731 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,399 Speaker 1: sounds like it's very intentional. Again, like how have you 732 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 1: raising your presence when when you're in a space or 733 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,800 Speaker 1: in an environment. I think like, honestly, it's come from 734 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 1: the reflection and growth that I've done to like actually 735 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:23,800 Speaker 1: have confidence in myself, to like feel like I can 736 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: take up as much space or as little space as 737 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: I want, and knowing that I have that choice. I've 738 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 1: always been very present person, and I think that I 739 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 1: positioned myself now. Like It's taken so many years of 740 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 1: like reflection and growth and like doing all the uncomfortable 741 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 1: work to shape me into the person that I am, 742 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,320 Speaker 1: and I look back and I'm like, I'm so grateful 743 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 1: for all of it, so grateful for all the achy times, 744 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,759 Speaker 1: because there's a lot of icky times in life, but 745 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 1: like by leaning in and like not putting them into 746 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,800 Speaker 1: like a storage unit in my mind, but like actually 747 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 1: processing them and like growing and evolving from it has 748 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 1: allowed me to like have confidence in myself because I'm 749 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,839 Speaker 1: just like I know that I'm enough, like and I'm like, 750 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 1: I know that, like my point on life is beautiful, 751 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 1: and I know that, like what I want to contribute 752 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 1: to people and to the world is beautiful, and so 753 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 1: I'm like it's all good. It's all good. And that's 754 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 1: the thing, right, Like when you make sense of your 755 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:36,279 Speaker 1: inner world on your own totally, that's where it has 756 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: to click, because if it clicks for me, then like 757 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,319 Speaker 1: it's okay if it doesn't click for everybody, but like 758 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 1: I know if that like I'm locked in. Yeah, if 759 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 1: you know. I always say to people like, if you 760 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 1: have a decision or a choice you want to make, 761 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 1: and if you know why you're doing it, yeah, and 762 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,319 Speaker 1: you're clear on that, it will not bother you if 763 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,360 Speaker 1: other people don't understand exactly, but if you don't know 764 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 1: why you're doing it, just like, and that's what I'm 765 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: hearing from you. It's that that that inner click has 766 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 1: has has fit for you. And it sounds like during 767 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,960 Speaker 1: the pandemic you were extremely innovative, collaborative, seemed like you 768 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 1: were doing a lot of cool stuff. We both shared 769 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 1: this in common. We both launched a different type of 770 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 1: beverage line during the pandemic, and afterwards you launched Cali Water, 771 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 1: which is amazing. Yeah, And I want to hear about 772 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 1: just when when I first th I was like Cactus. 773 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 1: I was like that is so unique, Like it is 774 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 1: so different. I didn't even I didn't even know. And 775 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: there's gonna sound really silly, but I was like I 776 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 1: didn't even know you could get totally like I have 777 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,840 Speaker 1: cactus to my house, so I'm like, I have no 778 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 1: idea if you can drink it? Yeah, exact us through 779 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 1: some of the some of the and that that's one 780 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,760 Speaker 1: of them. I'm sure there's plenty of others. But where 781 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 1: did those ideas and innovations start because that requires such 782 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 1: a different mindset and it sounds like you had this 783 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,359 Speaker 1: space to be innovative and creative. You said you were 784 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 1: doing what would Gigi doing this? I love a collaboration. Yeah. 785 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 1: I live for a collaboration because I'm like, I know 786 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 1: what I can bring to the table, and then you 787 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 1: collaborate with people who knows what they can bring to 788 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 1: the table, and it's like you guys have fun doing 789 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:21,360 Speaker 1: it together. Yeah, okay go And that's literally how I 790 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 1: feel like all my business ventures have been, um, you know, 791 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,479 Speaker 1: with Callie Water. It was our friend Oliver Trena, Yes, yeah, 792 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 1: who is my business partner, and like he came to 793 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:32,799 Speaker 1: me and he was like we should we need to 794 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,719 Speaker 1: like do something together, and he's like there's we could 795 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 1: do like beverages, and he's like, there's like cactus, there's 796 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 1: a lot, there's something there. And like I went to 797 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,280 Speaker 1: New Mexico on a road trip and was drinking Prickly 798 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 1: pear Margharita's and I was like, what is this heavenly nectar? 799 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 1: And like why do I know nothing about it? Yeah? 800 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 1: And then started like researching what prickly pears and then 801 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 1: like realized all the health benefits and then you know, 802 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 1: like we're like okay, cool, so like that's like a thing. 803 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 1: There's something there. And then like him like taking the 804 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,799 Speaker 1: reins and putting together an incredible team to like put 805 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 1: together this drink and like bring it to life, and 806 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,879 Speaker 1: then like me doing like the creative and like the tastings, 807 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 1: and I'm like, nuts a little off, Like I need 808 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 1: something more of this, like maybe a little like more 809 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:27,239 Speaker 1: monkf or like you know, like something um and packaging. Yeah, 810 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 1: I do too, But it's just like it's such a 811 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 1: fun creative outlet for me that like I really enjoy, 812 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:39,319 Speaker 1: Like it's so stimulating to me and exciting and it's 813 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 1: just like really cool being able to be passionate about 814 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:46,479 Speaker 1: something and then like sharing that passion with the masses. Yeah. Yeah, 815 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,439 Speaker 1: it's awesome. No, I highly recommend everyone grabs it because 816 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 1: it's I just love seeing people find multiple ways to 817 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 1: express themselves and not being scared and not feeling limited 818 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 1: by like, oh, I'm an actress, as should be that, 819 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 1: or like I'm at this. Yeah, I'm like, but we're 820 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,319 Speaker 1: all just creative artists individuals, and when we can just 821 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 1: like paint through every single color and every single brush, 822 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with that, and I think it should 823 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 1: be encouraged more. And I think often we feel limited 824 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 1: and restricted by what we think people will think and 825 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,880 Speaker 1: what they literally and we stop realizing that we just 826 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,319 Speaker 1: have to color more and paint more and get out 827 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,279 Speaker 1: there more. Is there something you do to tap into 828 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 1: more creativity or innovation? Is there any habits or any 829 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 1: rituals you have or is that also same connected with 830 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 1: doing the intuitive work. It's literally all intuitive, I feel, 831 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 1: and it's like it's it's the magic thing. I think 832 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 1: that like when I'm doing things that I'm inspired to 833 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:50,880 Speaker 1: do and I honor those inspirations, the thrill and the 834 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:55,359 Speaker 1: fulfillment that comes along with it is like what I 835 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 1: imagine it's like to have kids. You know, It's like 836 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 1: because you're put I'm like such a vulnerable piece of 837 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:07,480 Speaker 1: uniquely you into something and then and then sharing it 838 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,359 Speaker 1: and so it's like it's such a vulnerable thing. Um. 839 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,280 Speaker 1: Like I I came up with like a reality show 840 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,040 Speaker 1: for me and Gigi, and I'm like, it's so funny 841 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 1: because I, like fifteen years ago would be like I 842 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 1: would never do a reality show, like I am a 843 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 1: serious actress. Um, But this this show, like I I 844 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,840 Speaker 1: came up with, like I birthed it from my mind 845 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,839 Speaker 1: and I was just like, this is something that I 846 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,239 Speaker 1: love and like would love to do because I feel 847 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,760 Speaker 1: like it would be hilarious and it's a great time. 848 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 1: But also like yeah, we're hysterical if we have something. Um, 849 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 1: but like also so creative and like down to what 850 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,279 Speaker 1: we're wearing in our show and like who we're partnered 851 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 1: with and like just putting on the business hat. Like 852 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 1: it's it's really exciting. I'm like, she's a she's a woman, 853 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,760 Speaker 1: Like she's making moves just because I'm like leaning into 854 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,280 Speaker 1: my interest and like honoring the ideas that I have 855 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,440 Speaker 1: rather than like pushing them down. And the show's happening. 856 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:22,520 Speaker 1: You know, we're waiting on something. But like it's been 857 00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,160 Speaker 1: so exciting because we've like literally gotten so many of 858 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,319 Speaker 1: our ducks in the row where we're like this would 859 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,400 Speaker 1: be the dream and then like it's falling into place, 860 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 1: and I love that. It's just so nice because I'm 861 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,440 Speaker 1: doing it all like with people that I love. Yeah, 862 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,240 Speaker 1: I love hearing about ideas when they're being formed, Yeah, 863 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,359 Speaker 1: because it's it's special. Like we usually hear about like oh, 864 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,799 Speaker 1: we just made the show. Yeah, and then it's like, 865 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 1: but this is the part that's so interesting because it's like, well, 866 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 1: we did this, and now we did this and we're 867 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,719 Speaker 1: waiting for this and we're figuring this out and I'm 868 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:53,200 Speaker 1: hoping that everyone who's listening or watching is hearing it, going, oh, 869 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:57,360 Speaker 1: that's normal, Like yeah, literally stems from an idea, Yeah 870 00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 1: what if? What if? And then like building it off 871 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 1: of there, and like that's why I love doing things 872 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:07,120 Speaker 1: with my friends because the snowballing is so real, you know, 873 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,239 Speaker 1: Like is that what it's called? Yeah, And it's just 874 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,520 Speaker 1: like the best thing because like even like the future 875 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,480 Speaker 1: feature that we did, like it was me, Gigi and 876 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 1: our friend Asha, who has written for like American Horror 877 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 1: Story and like we love American Horror Story and it 878 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,239 Speaker 1: totally fits with a vibe of like our idea and 879 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:27,960 Speaker 1: she was like, you guys are at a feature and 880 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 1: we were like yeah, and then we were like, okay, 881 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 1: so what if it starts here and it's about like 882 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,520 Speaker 1: these four witches and like it just snowballs from there 883 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,759 Speaker 1: and it's just like it's so cool because I feel 884 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,920 Speaker 1: like everything that I'm doing is something that I'm like 885 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 1: so passionate about, and like I'm really like carving out 886 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 1: time to like stay super engaged in everything that I'm 887 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 1: doing and not just like taking a back seat. Well, 888 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:53,560 Speaker 1: that's what I was gonna ask you, Like, how are you? 889 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,960 Speaker 1: And I can see that, I mean every idea, everything 890 00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 1: we've spoken about today, I can tell how passionate you. 891 00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:04,839 Speaker 1: It's in flow, it's in your heart, it's it's there. 892 00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,000 Speaker 1: So that's so evident to me as someone who I 893 00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,279 Speaker 1: feel like I live a very similar life and that 894 00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,600 Speaker 1: I do a lot of different things that I'm passionate about. 895 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:17,719 Speaker 1: How are you prioritizing making time to do all of that? 896 00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,040 Speaker 1: Like what works for you? Because I'm sure there's a 897 00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,120 Speaker 1: lot of people going, oh wow, Like you know, Vanessa 898 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:24,440 Speaker 1: is doing a ton of stuff. I mean, she has 899 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,520 Speaker 1: new movies coming out, she's doing this, and she's doing this, 900 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,279 Speaker 1: and she's building this, Like how do you make sense 901 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:30,920 Speaker 1: of doing so many different things? And how do you 902 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,440 Speaker 1: balance it? Because you're still you're still working out, you're 903 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 1: still doing your your own personal practices. How are you 904 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,160 Speaker 1: balancing and managing that? All? I think it's about like 905 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:45,359 Speaker 1: really honoring my my my needs and like having a 906 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 1: strong priority list. Um, I feel like right now I'm 907 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,879 Speaker 1: being very clear and intentional with my my career. Um. 908 00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:58,680 Speaker 1: In acting, I'm like, I'm not doing anything unless like 909 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,560 Speaker 1: it pushes me in a new way, challenges me in 910 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,480 Speaker 1: a new way, or it's with people that I can 911 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,799 Speaker 1: work with that I like really respect and I know 912 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:10,520 Speaker 1: will help me evolve and grow. Um. Otherwise, I'm like, 913 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,200 Speaker 1: I only want to be doing things that like I'm 914 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:17,040 Speaker 1: producing because then I'm like I have like a say 915 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 1: on the story and like the way that it looks 916 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,279 Speaker 1: and like the way that shot. Like you know, like 917 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,000 Speaker 1: I can be like so much more creative to like 918 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,960 Speaker 1: the overall outcome of the movie because a lot of times, 919 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:30,799 Speaker 1: like so many things end up on the cutting room 920 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,080 Speaker 1: floor and like that's fine, but you're like you watch 921 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh they went with that take interesting, 922 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 1: and You've like no say over yeah, it's tough, but 923 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,239 Speaker 1: like I'm like as a producer, I like can come 924 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,600 Speaker 1: in and like can help like build out projects, and 925 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,680 Speaker 1: like I can I can actually dream them up myself 926 00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,000 Speaker 1: and like bring them to the table and like find 927 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,640 Speaker 1: producers that I really respect and admire and like use 928 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,919 Speaker 1: their minds to like snow of all with and see 929 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,280 Speaker 1: how we can work together to bring it to life. 930 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,120 Speaker 1: And I just feel like it's it's so much more 931 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:10,560 Speaker 1: fulfilling for me as an actress to be able to 932 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,879 Speaker 1: be a part of that creative which is why I'm 933 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,640 Speaker 1: like one day, one day I will direct because I'm 934 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,600 Speaker 1: like it's something that I love so much, and I'm 935 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:23,400 Speaker 1: like my point of view is, i think, not what 936 00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,120 Speaker 1: a lot of people would think because they did like 937 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,200 Speaker 1: get to know me from high school musical. I'm like, 938 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,399 Speaker 1: my taste is like weird and it's trippy and it's 939 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:38,160 Speaker 1: dark sometimes. So I'm like that's something that I would 940 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:42,239 Speaker 1: love to eventually get to. But like I have that 941 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,239 Speaker 1: aspect of my life, and then I have like the 942 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,040 Speaker 1: business side of things where I'm like making sure I 943 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,960 Speaker 1: just gone assistant like for the first time because I 944 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,560 Speaker 1: was like I am too busy and I need to 945 00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:57,120 Speaker 1: like honor my time and like I need help. I 946 00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:01,000 Speaker 1: was just like doing everything on my own, but so 947 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,239 Speaker 1: like I have her and I'm like now I'm like 948 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:04,920 Speaker 1: every top of the week, I'm like, Okay, we need 949 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,600 Speaker 1: to check in with these people, like set up calls 950 00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,279 Speaker 1: and we'll get it done. And I'm like sure to 951 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,680 Speaker 1: check in with all the businesses, like see what they need, 952 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:18,080 Speaker 1: see where we're at, and then like making sure that 953 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:23,400 Speaker 1: I have my me time, which is hard because i 954 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,560 Speaker 1: feel like the me time also funnels into like my 955 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:30,919 Speaker 1: relationship because that is what I want, Like I want 956 00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:35,040 Speaker 1: to be with my partner. But I'm like, also my 957 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:39,280 Speaker 1: work I feel also drives my slight me time too 958 00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,600 Speaker 1: because I'm like I'm I'm here in La. I'm not 959 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,960 Speaker 1: with him at the moment because i have things that 960 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,800 Speaker 1: I'm doing here and like like my flat Papletics collection 961 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,640 Speaker 1: is coming out in April, and I'm like that is 962 00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:56,160 Speaker 1: something that I like designed myself, like another full creativity step. 963 00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:58,680 Speaker 1: But I'm like here and I like get to talk 964 00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:02,520 Speaker 1: about it and like I feel like it's just so 965 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,239 Speaker 1: like I said, so nice to have these things that 966 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,479 Speaker 1: I'm like putting a lot of myself into and being 967 00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,319 Speaker 1: able to talk about them and like share them with 968 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,960 Speaker 1: others and like hopefully that connects me with other people 969 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,799 Speaker 1: who are like minded as well. You know, well, all 970 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,799 Speaker 1: I experience from you today is this abundance, Like there's 971 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,360 Speaker 1: an abundance of creativity in your life. There's an abundance 972 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:27,759 Speaker 1: of expression. There's also an abundance of like genuine confidence 973 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,880 Speaker 1: in who you are and how you show up and 974 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 1: and everything you're doing. And I love seeing it, Like 975 00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:36,440 Speaker 1: it's so fun. I find it's so fun to observe 976 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:40,040 Speaker 1: that in someone, Yeah, because I appreciate that it's taken 977 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,920 Speaker 1: work and that it's not something that that person was 978 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,920 Speaker 1: just given totally. And so yeah, just just viewing you 979 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,040 Speaker 1: today and observing you today and like it's amazing. It's 980 00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,200 Speaker 1: electric to experience that through someone. Thank you, And I 981 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:57,399 Speaker 1: congratulated for all those aspects. Thank you, because it's I'm 982 00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,400 Speaker 1: sure there's lots of people listening and watching, going, oh, 983 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:05,920 Speaker 1: I can be everything I want to be. Yeah, you'll care, 984 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,279 Speaker 1: it's okay, Yeah, totally. You know, we don't have to 985 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,200 Speaker 1: like we don't have to choose anymore you have to limit. 986 00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,880 Speaker 1: You can be everything. And that was like a big 987 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,120 Speaker 1: wake up call for me. I was like, no one 988 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:21,560 Speaker 1: is one thing, Like we're so allowed, and like it 989 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,160 Speaker 1: should be celebrated to be as many different things as 990 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,799 Speaker 1: you can be, as long as they're honest and truthful 991 00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,759 Speaker 1: and like coming from within, not from an idea of 992 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,360 Speaker 1: what you think you should be doing. That's it. Yeah, Vanessa, 993 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,880 Speaker 1: You've been so generous with your time. I'm like, I 994 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:40,399 Speaker 1: could sit here and talk forever. I mean, you've been 995 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,480 Speaker 1: I know you've been traveling, and I've been moving around. 996 00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,960 Speaker 1: I know you're catching up. So I want to express 997 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,360 Speaker 1: to you so much gratitude from my heart for your time, 998 00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,640 Speaker 1: your energy turning up to the zen zones, your friendship, 999 00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,239 Speaker 1: your reflections in the zen zones, Like I always feel 1000 00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:55,759 Speaker 1: like you'll come in and you'll open up, and then 1001 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,800 Speaker 1: everyone else feels inspired to open up some more as well, 1002 00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:03,400 Speaker 1: and and even today, like it has truly been wonderful 1003 00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:08,120 Speaker 1: to witness just what exudes from you. And I really 1004 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:11,960 Speaker 1: appreciate that. I appreciate you. You're very kind. Thank you, 1005 00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:19,880 Speaker 1: and we all do sentence which which energies are. Yeah, 1006 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,000 Speaker 1: but we end every on Purpose episode with what we 1007 00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:28,000 Speaker 1: call the Final Five. These are five fast questions that 1008 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,600 Speaker 1: have to be answered in one word to one sentence 1009 00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,239 Speaker 1: maximum love it. You can take your time to think 1010 00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,000 Speaker 1: about them, but the answers attire so all right. So 1011 00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,120 Speaker 1: the first question is what is the best advice you've 1012 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,520 Speaker 1: ever received or herd in this moment of my life 1013 00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:47,120 Speaker 1: where I am honor yourself. M that's great advice. We've 1014 00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,239 Speaker 1: never had that before in the show. Great advice. It's 1015 00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:53,320 Speaker 1: a good short sentence too. It is beautiful, easy to remember. Yeah, 1016 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,120 Speaker 1: it's so because I feel like it's so easy to 1017 00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,839 Speaker 1: not in so many different aspects, and it's like if 1018 00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:03,920 Speaker 1: you actually do, then like you can like live your 1019 00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:05,839 Speaker 1: truth and that's what we're all trying to do right. 1020 00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:16,280 Speaker 1: Question number two, what is the worst advice you've ever received? Ahead? Um, 1021 00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:21,760 Speaker 1: like maybe always say yes. I feel like, um, saying 1022 00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:25,720 Speaker 1: yes can like definitely be a wonderful thing. But I 1023 00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,960 Speaker 1: think it's what you say no to that shapes you 1024 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,240 Speaker 1: your character. That's great advice. I really like that. That's beautiful. 1025 00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:39,280 Speaker 1: See good. Yeah, the stillness is good. Yeah, it does 1026 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,120 Speaker 1: it does, okay. Question number three, how would you define 1027 00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,240 Speaker 1: your current purpose or the current impact you're trying to 1028 00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:52,800 Speaker 1: have in the world? And spread joy. Honestly, Yeah, I 1029 00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,720 Speaker 1: feel like I have an abundance of it. If I 1030 00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,600 Speaker 1: can share it, that's like the most beautiful thing I 1031 00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,120 Speaker 1: can offer. I love that. Yeah, that's beautiful. All right. 1032 00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,280 Speaker 1: Question number four, what's the first thing you do in 1033 00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:04,760 Speaker 1: the morning and the last thing you do at night? 1034 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,120 Speaker 1: Oh God, I hate my answer, but if I'm going 1035 00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:14,920 Speaker 1: to answer truth, it's probably like, well, it depends on 1036 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,680 Speaker 1: where I am. Yes, Like if I'm with Darla, I 1037 00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:22,480 Speaker 1: like just find her and like hold her, Yes, have 1038 00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,920 Speaker 1: a little cuddle and like I think I like I'm 1039 00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,919 Speaker 1: a big like deep breather in the morning, like get 1040 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:33,920 Speaker 1: back into breath, but like check my phone. Yeah, But 1041 00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,320 Speaker 1: it also like depends like on if I'm on my 1042 00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,920 Speaker 1: own or if I'm with Cole, Yeah, because I'm like 1043 00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,920 Speaker 1: if I'm with him, then it's like, oh, like my 1044 00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:46,200 Speaker 1: first thing is like, oh, gratitude and just like love. Um. 1045 00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,680 Speaker 1: If I'm on my own, I'm just like, Okay, what 1046 00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:53,120 Speaker 1: do we got for this? Thank you for the honesty. 1047 00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,160 Speaker 1: But I also like the answers, all right. Fifth and 1048 00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,760 Speaker 1: final question, if you could create one law that everyone 1049 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,840 Speaker 1: in the world had to follow or one habit that 1050 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,040 Speaker 1: everyone had to do every day? What would it be 1051 00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:09,160 Speaker 1: think before you speak? Oh wow, that was I don't 1052 00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,000 Speaker 1: know if that's like the that's just the first one 1053 00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:14,040 Speaker 1: that popped into my mind, but like it's it's I 1054 00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:19,080 Speaker 1: feel like we all, we all could navigate through life 1055 00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:22,560 Speaker 1: a bit better if we really stopped to, like really 1056 00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:26,640 Speaker 1: think before we spoke and be impeccable with your word. Yes, 1057 00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:32,640 Speaker 1: I'm just going to go into the four group. Done. 1058 00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:37,080 Speaker 1: Great book changed my life. Yeah, but yeah, I feel 1059 00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:40,280 Speaker 1: like I don't know, I'm such a such a lover, 1060 00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,520 Speaker 1: and it really bums me out when people get into 1061 00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:48,200 Speaker 1: arguments and they say things that they don't mean because 1062 00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:53,040 Speaker 1: they're not thinking before they speak, and like the miscommunication 1063 00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:56,959 Speaker 1: that comes along with it. It's just like it's it's 1064 00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:00,400 Speaker 1: heartbreaking to me when relationships can be like just deeply 1065 01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:06,560 Speaker 1: tarnished and those moments of like heighted heightened emotions. Yeah, 1066 01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:09,160 Speaker 1: just because we didn't just because we didn't pause. You're 1067 01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:13,439 Speaker 1: so right that I feel like relationships have ruined just 1068 01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:16,959 Speaker 1: because we didn't breathe literally didn't pause. Yeah, we didn't 1069 01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:20,480 Speaker 1: take that moment of stillness to respond and not react. 1070 01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:27,640 Speaker 1: You destroy lifelong relationships because you misinterpreted a word, or 1071 01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:32,000 Speaker 1: you misunderstood an emotion exactly, or you misconstrued a feeling. Yeah, 1072 01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:37,360 Speaker 1: it's incredible. Also like just speak your mind. I think balance, 1073 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,520 Speaker 1: it's like the balance of it because I feel like 1074 01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:45,040 Speaker 1: I grew growing up in the industry is like tough. 1075 01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:49,280 Speaker 1: This is not an answer we said one sentence now, 1076 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,360 Speaker 1: Like growing up in the industry is tough. And I 1077 01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,640 Speaker 1: feel like it was really easy for me to just 1078 01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:59,680 Speaker 1: like put on my professional face because like I was 1079 01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,360 Speaker 1: doing what I loved like such an early age. So 1080 01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:04,440 Speaker 1: for me, I was like, okay, like this is my 1081 01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:07,960 Speaker 1: adult voice, Like this is my adult thoughts. Um, And 1082 01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,919 Speaker 1: it was like so easy for me to like not 1083 01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:14,280 Speaker 1: just like speak up. And I, like I said, like, 1084 01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:17,680 Speaker 1: if you're suppressing one aspect of yourself, then like it 1085 01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:21,800 Speaker 1: dripples into everything. And I feel like in relationships through 1086 01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,960 Speaker 1: the years, like I look back and I'm like, there's 1087 01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:26,800 Speaker 1: there's so many moments where I'm like if I just 1088 01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:30,000 Speaker 1: would have like spoken up and like said how I how, 1089 01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:34,880 Speaker 1: I've actually felt like so much pain and like tears 1090 01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:39,600 Speaker 1: could have been avoided. Um. But like by going through that, 1091 01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:42,200 Speaker 1: like I now know like how important it is to 1092 01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:46,600 Speaker 1: like speak up and like honor yourself. Because of the 1093 01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,360 Speaker 1: times that I didn't, it doesn't make it any easier, 1094 01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:51,840 Speaker 1: Like it's still like something that like even I have 1095 01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,760 Speaker 1: to like be like okay, brave face, we're talking about 1096 01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:58,360 Speaker 1: this now, and like genuinely have to hide myself up 1097 01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:02,520 Speaker 1: for um But I I feel like so many women 1098 01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:06,840 Speaker 1: get into relationships where they're suppressing themselves and like or 1099 01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:10,280 Speaker 1: probably men too, you know, like and I just I'm 1100 01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:14,440 Speaker 1: I'm so about like living as openly and freely and 1101 01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:18,280 Speaker 1: truthfully as possible because that's where I feel like the 1102 01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,760 Speaker 1: magic sits, the creativity sits, Like that's where if there's 1103 01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,840 Speaker 1: an abundance of all of it. Um So, I think 1104 01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,120 Speaker 1: it's so important to like push yourself to get there. 1105 01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:29,720 Speaker 1: That is a beautiful thing to end up like that 1106 01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:34,800 Speaker 1: is such a great like grounding message for us to 1107 01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:37,640 Speaker 1: throw into the world. Vanessa, As I said before, I'm 1108 01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:42,120 Speaker 1: so grateful for your time and your presence, just what 1109 01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:45,360 Speaker 1: you've brought to this today, for bringing Dala having a 1110 01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,000 Speaker 1: little wonderful Dala. Do you have anything you'd like to say, 1111 01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:53,680 Speaker 1: any any message for our audience. I love life. That's 1112 01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:55,760 Speaker 1: a great message, and I want to thank everyone who's 1113 01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:57,880 Speaker 1: been listening and watching today, And what I'd love for 1114 01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,520 Speaker 1: you to do is tag Vanessa and I when you 1115 01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,640 Speaker 1: share the messages that resonated, the magic that came through 1116 01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:06,720 Speaker 1: the maybe ideas or insights that Vanessa mentioned that you're 1117 01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:09,200 Speaker 1: going to try and practice and apply in your life. 1118 01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:13,360 Speaker 1: I love knowing what you're switching from information to action. 1119 01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,439 Speaker 1: That gives me so much joy knowing that you listen 1120 01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,520 Speaker 1: to this podcast but then you make a shift in 1121 01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:21,120 Speaker 1: your life. Please tag me and Vanessa on all social 1122 01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,800 Speaker 1: media platforms to let us know what's resonating with you 1123 01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,760 Speaker 1: and what's connecting with you. Keep listening to on purpose, 1124 01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,880 Speaker 1: and please, please please go and shower Vanessa with so 1125 01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,800 Speaker 1: much love. She has so much exciting stuff coming up, 1126 01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:35,680 Speaker 1: whether it's her new line with Fabletics, whether it's Cali Water. 1127 01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,000 Speaker 1: She's this is probably gonna come out later, but she 1128 01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:44,880 Speaker 1: hosted the pre show at the Oscars. I'm just so 1129 01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:46,960 Speaker 1: excited to see what you're going to continue to do. 1130 01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:50,720 Speaker 1: I'm excited for this movie you're going to direct, this 1131 01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:55,760 Speaker 1: reality show, but more than anything, I'm really excited to 1132 01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:58,920 Speaker 1: deep enough friendship connection with Cole as well with Raley too, 1133 01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,080 Speaker 1: and I love how you show up in the world 1134 01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:03,520 Speaker 1: and I'm so grateful that I get to know you. 1135 01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:05,960 Speaker 1: So thanks for Nan, Thank you so much. You