WEBVTT - LISTEN | Jets Draft Countdown - Ep. 5 with Albert Breer (4/13) 0:00:03.840 --> 0:00:07.200 Welcome to another edition of the Official Jets Podcast, continuing 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:11.240 our Draft Calfdown series presented by Verizon. On today's episode, 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:14.520 e A and I recently caught up with mm qub's 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:17.919 Albert Brier, talked about the Jets Draft Ahead, looked back 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:20.280 a little bit to free agency, and also Albert had 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:23.159 some great things to say about what Sam Donald is 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:26.800 doing right now during this quarantine time in California. E A, 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:28.680 another week of the pod. How you doing out there, 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:32.239 I'm doing great, Greens. Yeah, Breer is so dialed in 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:34.840 with so many things happened in the National Football League, 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:36.639 and I think Jets fans are really gonna like this 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:40.680 one because you haven't heard too much about Sam Donald 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:43.600 this offseason, and rightfully so, a lot of things going 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:47.120 on and Sam back home in California, but he is 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:50.560 still working on his game. Greens. Yeah, we really covered 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:52.760 the full gamut here with Brier, and we had them 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:56.160 for about twenty minutes and without further ado, here's Albert Brier. 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:01.120 How do you view what Joe Douglas did free agency 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:03.360 and not only that, but how did that then set 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:06.920 him up for the Draft Ahead? Yeah? You know, I 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:08.920 think one of the nice things about what Joe did 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:12.040 is that he didn't tie himself down to too many guys. 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:14.399 And you know, I think that there's an inefficiency to 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:17.160 the free agent market where you know, in a lot 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:20.160 of cases, um, if you're really really aggressive with the 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:23.760 first wave, you wind up overspending and signing guys to 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:25.640 deals that don't look so good too and three years 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:28.760 down the line. So I think doing deals with some guys, 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:32.880 you know, taking swings at guys like Brashad Perriman or 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:36.240 Pierre d Seer who have had flashes in the past 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:39.039 who might be a little bit more um than than 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:41.720 than what we've seen to this point in their NFL careers, 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:45.160 I think those are worthy risks. They plug holes, and 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:47.640 I think the idea is, you know, you get a 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:50.920 receiver like that, you get a you know, you get 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:53.880 you get a corner like that, and then you sign 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:56.120 the amount of offensive line And they signed cover Connor 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:59.000 mcgovernor George Fan obviously the top of the list. And 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:01.640 you know, to me, it's just it allows you to 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:04.440 go into the draft without having to press one kneed 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:07.840 or the other two hard Albert, he's definitely rapping his 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:11.720 arms around Sam Darnold, he said. In fact, last preseason 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:15.359 he told his parents, I'm gonna I'm gonna protect this guy. 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:18.200 And he's one out and done that. In free agency, 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:21.840 Ronney Anderson departs to Carolina, brings in Perryman, a guy 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:24.680 flourished down the stretch last year in Tampa. But I 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:28.280 wanted to further the conversation about Donald here. What can 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:32.720 you tell us about QB Quarantine School in California under 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:36.760 Jordan Palmer. Yeah, well, well Sam's still out there because 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:38.600 he has a house out there. But yeah, it was 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:41.600 an interesting circumstance where, um, you know, three guys and 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:44.560 these guys all trained for the draft together with Jordan Palmer, 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:48.359 Kyle Allen, Josh Allen and uh and Sam Donald. Um 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:50.839 we're out there when you know the situation that we're 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:54.639 all facing this country worseen and so really, um it 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:57.160 was I mean, for the most part, I think it 0:02:57.240 --> 0:03:00.400 was an eight person, seven person quarantine and so it 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:05.280 was Josh Allen his girlfriend, it was Kyle Allen his girlfriend, 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:09.560 it was Sam, Sam's buddy from USC who was working 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:12.000 out with them, and then Jordan Palmer. So that's my 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:14.400 masks not great, but I think that's seven people and 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:16.760 they were all sort of kind of quarantined out there, 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:19.360 and they didn't have a place to throw, they didn't 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:21.239 have a place to work out. So instead of being 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:24.440 on local parks or local fields which were all shut down, 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:27.680 they were throwing on the beach. And instead of going 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:30.920 to a gym, they were working out of the garage 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:33.600 of a buddy of their trainer who had like a 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:36.400 little makeshift forty square foot area to work out in. 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:39.640 So they definitely did their best to make the most 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:41.920 out of the situation they were each in. I know 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:44.880 Kyle Allen's gone back to Arizona. I know Josh Allen 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:47.680 was looking at either going home to Fresno or actually 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:49.920 maybe going all the way back to Buffalo. Obviously, all 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:52.840 that's a little difficult now. Um. I think Sam, as 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:54.920 far as I know, is still out there in Orange County. 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:56.800 But I guess there are worse places to be if 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:58.760 you're gonna be quarantined, right, I mean, right there on 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:02.400 the beach in California. Yeah, And it makes total sense 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:05.640 considering he's from San Clementi, so home for Sam Donald. 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:08.920 But e a mentioned Joe Douglas wrapping his arms around Donald. 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:10.840 I just wanted to ask you, what can you tell 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:13.600 us about somebody that the Jets have reportedly agreed to 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:16.560 turn with And you mentioned him to George Fan because 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:18.880 he played on the opposite side of the country. Feels 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:20.840 like Jets fans don't know a lot about him other 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:23.720 than he's an athletic freak. Yeah, I mean, he's an 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:26.360 interesting player, obviously college basketball player. I'm sure you guys 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:29.279 are familiar with this backstory. And um, at one point 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:31.520 the Seahawks thought he was gonna be, you know, or 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:33.160 had a shot at least to be their long term 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:36.159 left tackle that obviously didn't work out. They wind up 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:38.880 pulling off the trade for Dwayne Brown a few years ago, 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:42.280 but at the very least like a valuable depth piece, 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:43.919 the guy who can be a swing tackle for And 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:45.440 I think that was sort of the idea here. And 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:49.400 you look at what what Joe Douglas has done, uh, 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:51.320 you know, and I know he was saying this to 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:53.240 to other people in the league over the course of 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:56.279 a couple of weeks, um in and around the combine. 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:59.240 You know, he wouldn't be he he went with it, 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:00.760 went with the idea that he was going to be 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:03.720 working with almost a totally blank slate on the offensive line, 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:06.400 and so, um, you know, I think there was this 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:08.039 feeling we're gonna have to start over a little bit, 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:10.320 and I think everybody who was looking for offensive lineman. 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:13.560 Things changed a little bit early on when you know, 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:16.719 you saw Joe Tuoney got tagged and Brandon Sheriff got tagged, 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:18.080 and I think both those guys would have been of 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:21.400 interest to the Jets. Um. You know, so you know, 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:23.120 you sort of reset a little bit, and I think 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:25.400 going in on these low risk deals with some guys 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:28.520 made sense for them. Again, George Fan at the very 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:32.880 least is your backup swing tackle Connor McGovern. You know 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:35.640 you're probably your starting center now. Um, so you at 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:38.000 least go into the draft with you know, a few 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:41.920 more pieces where if what you hope plays out, which 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:43.680 I think would be one of the tackles falling to 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:46.960 them at eleven. Um, you're not completely up a creek. 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:51.760 You're Monday Morning Quarterback column is a must read. And 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:55.440 also check out Albert's podcast because that's a good listen 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:58.400 as well, because you did have they fore mentioned Jordan 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:04.080 Palmer on recently. Um, you are stationed there right outside Boston, 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:10.000 So what Can you tell us about your take on 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:13.000 the changing landscape of the FC East with Tom Brady 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:17.000 Tampa Bay buccaneer. Yeah, yeah, it's definitely weird. I mean, 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:19.240 I I grew up here, so I have, you know, 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:21.800 kind of an understanding of where the Patriots were before 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:23.600 all of this and sort of how their place in 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:27.120 the landscape up here has changed. And um, yeah, I 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:30.919 mean it's it's definitely gonna be interesting. I think it's fascinating. 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:34.440 The idea we've always had that question, is it more Brady, 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:37.600 is it more Belichick? Well, you know we won't get 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:40.040 the full answer to that here because you know, Belichick's 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:42.640 dealing with three work roster and Brady is is forty 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:45.440 two years old. But um, I think at least getting 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:47.200 like an idea of what that's gonna look like, it's 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:50.240 gonna be really really interesting. And so the Patriots look 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:52.239 like the last couple of years they got very old, 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:55.960 They've got cap issues, and so I think twenties very 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:57.960 much a retooling year. They signed a couple of guys 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:01.200 who are really programmed guys for them, and Devin mccordy 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:03.640 and Matt Slater to sort of carry the message on 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:06.360 but I think is very much gonna be a year 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:09.040 about a year, you know, dedicated to getting a little 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:11.280 bit younger. I think they're gonna give Jared's to them 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:13.120 a shot at the quarterback position. I would not rule 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:16.280 out them drafting another player at the position in April, 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:18.720 and so I think that, you know, that sort of 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:21.680 opens things up a little bit. And it's interesting too, 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:23.520 because they were in this position before in two Thousan 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:27.640 Brady created so much margin for air for them that 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:30.760 nobody really realized how much roster turnover they underwent at 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:33.080 that time. They were able to successfully do it with 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:35.280 Brady on the Roster's gonna be much more difficult without 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:38.480 Brady on the roster, and that opens up, that opens 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:40.360 the door for for everyone else. And I think in 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:43.200 particular the Buffalo Bills who were in the playoffs last year, 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:45.080 that made the playoffs two out of three years of 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:48.000 Sean McDermott. I mean to me, it almost puts pressure 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:50.760 on the build where, um, they've they've had three years 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:53.600 to build. Now they've been in the playoffs, Um, you know, 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:55.960 two out of three years, they've got a young quarterback 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:58.600 and Josh Allen going into year three. Uh, you know, 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:00.600 there's there's a fair amount of press from the Buffalo 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:02.040 Bills to get it done. I think the people they 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:03.800 would telling you it's good pressure, but it's pressure on 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:07.200 the last you know, for the draft in a couple 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:09.760 of weeks here. Obviously, big storyline in terms of the 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:12.600 Jets is the offensive tackles and the big four with 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:15.720 Andrew Thomas, McCay backed and Jeddrick Wills and Tristan Worths. 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:18.520 I understand EA and I were talking about this too. 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:21.880 There's a belief and that none of those guys might 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:24.000 be on the board by the time the Jets pick 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:26.880 at eleven. So if you were wearing Joe Douglass shoes 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:29.280 in that standpoint, would you be a fan of trading 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:32.360 bat or would you just take a different position at eleven? 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:35.120 It's gonna be interesting because I think what you have 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:38.120 so like the way I look at it is if 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:41.840 the three quarterbacks go, um, then you know, beyond the 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:45.160 three quarterbacks I'm talking about Burrow to uh And and 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:48.400 Herbert of course, um, then you got the four elite tackles, 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:52.000 the guys you mentioned, Worth's, Wills, Beckton and Thomas, and 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:54.319 then you got four elite defensive players in my mind, 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:59.200 and that's Derek Brown, Jeff Ocuda, Chase Young, and Isaiah Simmons. 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:02.480 And so the three quarterbacks go and neither one of 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:05.240 the elite defensive players or one of the tackles is 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:07.520 going to make it to you. And so if I'm 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:09.720 Joe Douglass, I'm looking at it and I'm saying to myself, 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:13.040 I'm sort of on the fringe right here where I 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:14.880 might not get that tackle, but do I want that 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:17.640 defensive player, Like if Derek Brown were to fall to me, 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:19.840 and I don't think Derrick Brown makes it there, Derry 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:21.559 Brown and fault would fall were to fall to me, 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:23.880 then you know, maybe I snap him up. Here's the 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:25.720 other piece of it. All Right, Let's say the four 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:28.160 tackles and the four defensive players all go on the 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:30.079 top ten. Well, that means then one of the quarterbacks 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:32.080 has slipt to you. So then are you a spot 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:33.599 where somebody wants to trade up and get one of 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:37.520 the quarterbacks. And so I think ideally Joe Joe Douglas 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:39.800 would love to have one of those tackles fall to him, 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:41.880 um and get a guy that they can kind of 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:45.000 put in place at the left tackle position ideally for 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:47.960 the next ten years. But failing that, I mean, you 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:50.800 either wind up with maybe an elite defensive player or 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:53.080 you're in a position to trade down and pick up 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:55.240 a lot of draft capital. But we live in an 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:59.640 unprecedented time right now, and you talked about some scouts 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:03.600 having the belief that, hey, this might be a big 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:06.760 guy draft. I mean, it's gonna be a little bit 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:11.240 safer to go in that direction as opposed to maybe 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:14.920 some of the skills guys in You said, Albert that 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:17.360 you wouldn't be surprised at all to see Josh Jones 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:21.480 from Houston and Austin Jackson from USC be part of 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:23.959 that tech class in the first round. Yeah. And I 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:27.319 mean even like a Lloyd Cushionberry or or Caesar Louise 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:29.920 the l s U Center of the Michigan Center. Uh, 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:31.880 maybe those guys sneak in the bottom of the round. 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:34.360 I mean, I just I know this like that some 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:36.040 of the teams that I talked to over the last 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:39.480 few days. You know, we're saying that the bigger guys 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:42.199 are a little bit of an easier projection for most teams, 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:44.480 you know, And so you know, if you haven't had 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:46.040 a chance to sit down the receiver, if you haven't 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:47.719 had a chance to work him out and see how 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:49.599 you rent run certain routes. If you haven't had a 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:52.880 chance to talk to a defensive back or a linebacker 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:55.520 about the scheme they played in college and how they 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:57.560 might fit, what they want, what what what the team 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:00.800 wants to do at the next level. If you're projecting 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:02.480 a little bit more and you haven't had the chance 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:04.240 to go through the pro day circuit, you haven't had 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:07.040 a chance to go through with thirty visits and all 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:09.720 of that sort of stuff, it is a little safer 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:11.400 to pick the big guys, right like it is a 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:14.199 little safer to go ahead and say, you know, this 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:16.520 offensive tackle, maybe I look at him as as a 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:18.599 high second round prospect, but we're at the bottom of 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:21.199 the first round and I feel more comfortable about taking 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:23.640 him here, then maybe I would be about taking a 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:26.520 corner or receiver. So that's sort of the logic there. 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:29.760 That's why I think, you know, someone like Javon Kimlaw 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:32.160 could wind up going in that elite group that I'm 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:33.959 talking about. You could see him go like ninth to 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:37.839 Jacksonville because he's a safe pick in this circumstance, and 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:40.280 so I do think sort of the circumstance that our 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:43.319 entire countries in right now that's created a different draft 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:46.120 cycle for all thirty two teams, will make this a 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:48.520 little bit more of a risk averse draft. That will 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:52.080 mean maybe less risks on character guys, less risks on 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:55.320 injured guys, and of course you know the lowest risk 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:57.280 guys and a lot of these scouts and UH and 0:11:57.360 --> 0:12:00.640 coaches minds are the big guys. You written about this 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:04.360 in the past to the recent success of second round receivers, 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:07.000 and when you look at the receiver landscape right now, 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:09.439 you think about Jerry, Judy, Ceedee Lamb, and Henry Rugged 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:11.720 at the top of this nest. But do you almost 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:14.880 is there a situation where those guys even slipped to 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:16.920 where they're projected to go based on what you just 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:20.240 said and the recent success and how rich of this 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:23.600 receiver classes. Yeah, you know, I think it's probably's two things. 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:25.160 It's the depth of the class, and I think it's 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:28.280 also the reality that there's no Julio in this year's class. 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:31.080 There's no ag agreeing in this year's classs nothing against Judy, 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:34.839 who I've heard comparisons um to Margaret Harrison on there's 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:37.120 no nothing against Ceedee Lamb, who I've heard compared to 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:40.680 DeAndre Hopkins. So you know, those are two really good 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:42.680 players and guys who can be number one receivers and 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:44.680 probably gonna be the first two receivers off the board. 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:46.920 But yeah, I mean a lot of these teams are 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:49.360 looking at the depth of the class and saying, there 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:51.920 are gonna be really good receivers available in the second round. 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:55.040 There's gonna be really good receivers available in the third round, 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:57.760 and maybe we should just sit here and take our tackle, 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:00.599 or take our pass rusher, or take our corner and 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:03.400 wait and get a receiver in the second or third round. 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:06.280 And like you said with bolsters, that is a success 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:09.400 of second year, second round receivers over the last few years. 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:11.840 Michael Thomas, D J. Charcot, the tool of miss Kids 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:15.280 last year, d DK Metcalf and A. J. Brown. Uh, 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:18.120 there's a really, really good draft track record right now 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:21.040 for second round receivers, and so I think some teams 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:24.160 will look at that and say, you know what, maybe 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:28.240 we should wait for say Brandon Aiyuk or Justin Jefferson. 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:29.920 Maybe one of those guys falls to us in the 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:32.360 second round, and maybe that's a better play for us 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:34.959 than going and getting a Jerry Judy or c. D 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:37.520 Lam in the first round when there's a little bit 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:40.240 more scarcity at some other positions like tackle on corner. 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:44.360 Earlier you mentioned desire. Obviously we can pencil them in 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:47.960 as one of your boundary corners. The Jets also resigned 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:51.680 valuable nickel corner Brian Pool. But across the way a 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:55.319 question mark is we head to the draft, you think 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:59.520 that the corners maybe are flying under the radar here 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:02.640 and there might be some value in the second round. Yeah, 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:05.240 you know, I was sort of surprised to hear about 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:07.440 this because I I'd always you know, and it's sort 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:09.800 of forever seemed like it was like Jeff o'cuda and 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:12.360 everybody else. And you know, so as I'm going through 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:14.360 some of my calls the last few days, like one 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:16.040 of the things that came up is like, you know, 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:18.320 this is a corner class that's like, you know, maybe 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:20.640 you're not gonna find somebody in the fifth round, but 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:23.960 there are six or seven really good players, you know, 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:26.480 and so yeah, so Kuda is the best of them, 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:29.400 and Okuda probably goes in the first six or seven picks, right, 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:32.880 So Kuda's off the board for most people. But Um, 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:38.240 Christian Fulton, C. J. Anderson, Jeff Gladney, Damon Arnett. Um, 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:41.160 you know, there's like they're they're going to be good 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:44.200 corners available in the second round. And you know, to 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:45.560 your point, I'm sure this is sort of what you 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:48.320 guys are getting at. If you're Joe Douglas and you're 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:50.240 sort of gaming this a little bit, maybe you look 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:52.600 at it and you say, Okay, if we want to 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:54.280 get a tackle, if we want to get a corner, 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:55.680 if we want to get a receiver out of this 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:58.720 year's group, how do we do it. Well, the tackles 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:00.200 might all be gone by the time we get the 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:03.080 second round, so let's take a tack on the first round, 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:04.840 and maybe we get a good corner at the top 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:07.400 of the second round, but there won't be one available 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:09.280 in the third round, so let's take our corner there, 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:11.440 and then in the third round you get your receiver. 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:13.920 So I think just the idea of looking at it 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:16.640 global and looking at the class overall kind of gives 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:18.880 you a picture for how some teams might game all 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:21.600 of this. Let me ask you this as we start 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:24.360 to wrap things up here. Not not related to the 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:27.720 draft at all, more and related to Sam Donald. I 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:30.480 just want to know your opinion on because I don't 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:32.520 think we've talked with you about this since the end 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:35.280 of the season. What can you expect from Sam Donald 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:38.840 if you're a Jets fan entering his second year under 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:40.920 the same system for the first time in his career. 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:43.640 And not to mention, he's twenty two years old. He's 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:46.640 six months younger than's Joe Burrow, who's projected to be 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:50.080 the number one overall pick and the longest tenure quarterback 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:52.160 in the a f C. East. Well, I'm a big 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:54.760 believer and and look like I I think that this 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:56.960 is a huge part of it that goes overlooked a lot, 0:15:57.520 --> 0:15:59.920 a lot like like when quarterbacks are young, they're sort 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:02.360 of at the mercy of what's around them. And that's 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:04.680 not saying that there's no one who can rise above it, 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:07.440 but I mean, look like, you know, we've talked about 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:09.560 the guys who've had like m v P type seasons 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:12.240 the last few years at the quarterback position, right, Like, 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:16.440 let's look at some commonalities. Okay, So Carson Wentz in Philadelphia, 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:19.320 you had a really good offensive line of premier left 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:24.280 tackle and Jason Peters a like like a fantastic UH 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:28.160 quarterback situation from a coaching standpoint, Doug Peterson, Frank Reich 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:31.080 and John d. Filippo. The year after that, Patrick Mahomes, 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:36.720 great tackles there, Eric Fisher and Mit Schwartz, a legendary 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:41.720 quarterback guru, and Andy Reid. And then last year Lamar Jackson. Well, 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:44.000 what do we have. We got a left tackle and 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:46.440 Ronnie Stanley who was a top ten pick. We have 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:49.760 a head coach in John Harbaugh who's run a fantastic 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:53.240 program for over a decade, and we had an offensive 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:56.560 coordinator and Greg Roman who was perfect for what Lamar 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:59.200 Jackson brought to the table. And so I think a 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:01.520 lot of cases, and look, that's not taking any credit 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:04.840 away from Carson Wentz or Lamar Jackson or Patrick Mahomes 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:08.200 what they've accomplished, but a lot of times you can 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:10.720 trace early success for a lot of these guys, and 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:12.159 this can go all the way back to guys like 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:15.119 Brady and Manning the situations they've been put in, and 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:17.399 so I think that sort of puts the pressure on 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:20.359 Adam Gates and Joe Douglas to create the right scheme 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:23.800 situation for him, create the right situation around him. He's 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:26.600 working on technical stuff out in California. There's been little 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:29.240 things that they've given him mechanically to clean up a 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:31.879 little bit. Um. He wants to get better throwing the 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:34.000 deep ball. They've worked on that a little bit. I 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:36.240 think right now, so much of what he becomes in 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:39.040 twenties gonna be based on what's around him. And of course, 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:40.840 because you're in that window where you've got him on 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:42.679 a rookie deal, that puts a fair amount of pressure 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:44.919 on Adam Gaze and Joe Douglas to create the right 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:49.159 environment for him. Final one for me, Um, Albert and 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:51.439 you've been so generous with your time, and we're wishing 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:55.320 you and your family. Well, you've written about your wife 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:58.080 who's a nurse there and I know she is on 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:01.080 the front line. So um, you know we're sending money, 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:04.679 blessings your way and your family's way. Um. But the 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:08.080 final thing is what is the two thousand twenty draft 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:12.080 actually going to look like from a fan's perspective, Because 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:15.240 we're sitting here two and a half weeks away and 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:18.200 we've never seen we've never lived through a time like this, 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:21.640 and we're talking about a virtual draft. What does that mean? Well, 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:23.679 the memo went out to NFL teams last week and 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:26.199 it basically, you know, I think was and this was, 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:28.560 look the teams that are in states that are a 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:31.080 little more restricted, and you guys obviously are one of them. 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:34.440 Uh really pushed for this and said it should either 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:37.480 be everybody gets to go into their facility and work 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:40.480 from their facility, or everyone has to stay at home 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:43.879 like like one or the other. It camp be in between. Um, 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:46.480 and you know, obviously that was to try to strike 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:50.199 competitive balance. I don't I'm not a doctor. You know, 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:52.920 I'm not. You know, I'm not. I'm not in government. 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:55.680