WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Saying There's A Chance? 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:05.680 The following He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.720 --> 0:00:16.640 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:20.479 Screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:29.319 Star in Price Chill. Say that's got Todaysto and now 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:34.400 your hosts, Isaiah Stanback, heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:39.440 Kyle Yeomans. You know, it's only been about like five 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:42.360 days or so, but it is oh so good to 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:45.400 be back. And it's been longer. It's been a full 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:49.280 week since we've had the Talking Cowboys crew back together again. 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:55.000 Come on that, Isaiah stand back, Rob Phillips, Kyle Yeomans 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:57.760 were all back and we're ready. We're well rested, We're 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:00.880 ready for the rest of the season. Exactly. Yeah, let's go. 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:03.040 It's not even a say it with your chest Friday. 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:05.240 Yet it's a say it with your chest Monday again. 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:07.959 Here on talking back in the Trust Tree. I missed 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:11.000 you guy in the Trust Tree. Missed you guys. I 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:16.200 missed you guys. So imagine imagine that Rob and Isaiah 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:18.319 or excuse me, Robin Heckmer are the ones that said 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:21.080 we miss people. And then Isaiah's you're sitting there smiling. 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:24.560 He didn't miss any of this smoke. I didn't miss 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:26.720 you guys, man, I miss you guys. It's been too long, 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:28.160 you know, it's been too long. It's kind of like, 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:29.720 you know, like we used to go on dates all 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:31.480 the time and now we're just you know, now we 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:33.360 had a little hiatus and now we're back, you know, 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:34.800 so it feels kind of good to be back with 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:37.480 the crew. Yeah, it's been a hole what six days? 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:39.480 I mean, that's like a yeah, that's like a middle 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:41.440 school thing, like, no, you get off the phone. No, 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:45.920 you get off the that's what That's how you feel. 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:48.000 That's kind of what it felt like whenever we pop 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:50.960 back on the call today and we were like, goodness, gracious, 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:53.320 this this feels good, Like it just feels right, and 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:56.200 we're ready to roll for another week of talking cowboys. 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:58.280 And that's the fun thing is we're back for the 0:01:58.280 --> 0:02:00.720 rest of the year this way. Nope, no more switch ups. 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:03.640 It was definitely fun. We had Nate Newton and Nick 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:07.560 Eatman specifically on this show, and then of course outside 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:10.040 what do you what do you like that he was there? 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:14.679 Something that happened. Now, now here's the thing you are 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:18.800 used to me and Isaiah getting to it. Yeah, and 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:21.760 you had you didn't you were not ready? You would 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:24.839 I could tell the look on your face. How when Nick, 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:28.840 when Nick and Nate got into it, ye, you was 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:30.720 just like, oh my god, well how do I get 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:33.639 this show back on the He was ready on Wednesday 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:37.040 because he brought props, when on Tuesday he was not ready. 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:40.320 You're exactly right, I was. I had a feeling that 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:42.560 was going to happen because because listen a little pull 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:45.120 back of the curtain here. Nick actually kind of he 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:47.919 at one point early before the show, he kind of 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:49.919 looked at me and said, hey, bring up moral victories 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:51.960 and I was like, okay, Like I'll bring it up. 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:54.240 I was like why, and he was like, just trust me, 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:55.880 just bring it home. When I was like, okay, I 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:58.760 feel like something's coming here, and so I brought it up, 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:02.520 and of course insanity ensued, and it went back and 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:05.639 forth the rest of the show and even spilling over 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:08.160 into Wednesday. So I was more prepared on Wednesday, but 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:10.680 it was It was a blast and a ton of 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:12.519 fun with with both those guys, and I'm sure you 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:14.360 guys had a ton of fun on your various shows 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:17.520 as well, but there's nothing like the Talking Cowboys crew. 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:19.800 I'll just tell you that right right now, there's nothing 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:22.360 we Well, we appreciate you taking us off a suspension. 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:24.280 We recognize that you kicked us out of the cool club. 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:26.200 I mean, you're here, you're inviting us back, so we're 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:29.360 grateful that, right, Yeah, the Commissioner's example list. Thank you, Kyle, 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:33.520 You're welcome. But I doubt that's even remotely close to 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:36.200 my pay grade. I don't think that's even close to 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:39.440 the amount. No, no, I mean I mean for Heck 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:41.280 and Rob Pie. I'm not sure if you guys remember, 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:42.840 but when we asked why is it that you get 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:46.560 to stay, Kyle, you said because I'm the host. Here 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:50.240 was me and let us know where we were in 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:54.360 a pecking order. Oh my goodness. Well, if you want to, 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:56.360 if we want to talk about pecking order, I got 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:58.520 a fun one for you to start off the day, 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:02.480 and I want to talk about specifically a stat that 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:04.840 just blows my mind at the moment, and it's the 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:08.400 fact that we are now in two week eleven, so 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:12.080 going into week eleven of the twenty twenty NFL season, 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:15.840 the division that the Cowboys are in the NFC East 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:20.800 has a combined eleven wins. Eleven wins going into week 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:23.800 eleven because of what happened over the bye week. The 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:26.560 Cowboys didn't lose, which is great. That's the first win 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:28.640 of the bye week. The second win of the bye 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:31.839 week is that Washington lost. The third win of the 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:35.880 bye week is the fact that the Giants beat the Eagles. 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:40.440 And so now you've got once again a week where 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:43.200 you're going up against a good Minnesota team, but you're 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:45.159 still a game and a half out of first place 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:47.839 in the NFC East and it still seems like everyone 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:49.760 else is reeling. Rob did you get a chance to 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:53.279 watch any of those games? What is your thought on 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:55.919 the NFC East right now? Because it's just kind of 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:59.440 a dumpster fire at the moment. So you're saying there's 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:02.960 a chance, a chance for people don't want to hear it, 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:06.520 there is a chance. I think. I think if you're 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:08.279 a fan, like it's the battle, I call it the 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:11.039 Battle of the Gems. You got Jim Carrey who's saying 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:13.240 saying there's a chance, and then you've got you know, 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:15.120 the Jim Mora video from back in the day with 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:18.400 the Colts where it's the whole playoffs thing, like playoffs, seriously, playoffs. 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:20.800 I think that's the that's what you've got away if 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:23.200 you're a fan. And I think if you know, if 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:25.680 I'm a fan, I'm pulling for my team to always 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:27.960 win games and try to get into the playoffs and 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:30.680 try to make something of your season. But I think 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:33.760 there's there's obviously a fan segment out there because we 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:36.440 see it on Twitter all the time, you know, hashtag 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:39.400 team tank and all that kind of stuff because they 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:43.039 don't see this season ending with a championship because of 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:45.320 all the injuries and you know, no Dak and all 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:48.000 that stuff. So but yeah, I mean, it's it is 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:50.240 right there. It was such a weird day, like you said, 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:53.040 because they dropped to last place, but in a way 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:55.239 they close the gap just by sitting on their couch. 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:57.839 So that's twenty twenty for you, and that's the twenty 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:05.440 twenty NFC East for you. And actually, yeah, he is. 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:08.440 I mean, and talk about moral victories, that's there. We 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:11.640 are right there with all the losses in the NFC East. 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:14.400 But Rob came up short of just calling the NFC 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:17.279 East to complete dumpster fire and that's what's bad with it. 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:20.240 It's bad. And and you know, I had my popcorn 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:24.159 ready getting ready to watch the Giants and Eagles game 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:27.000 and had the rud snatch from under me. We'll talk 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:29.280 about that about with Chris Beam a little bit later, 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:33.000 but I did get a chance to see the game. Uh. Man, 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:36.320 the Eagles are they suck. They are bad as bad 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:39.120 as as we saw them last when we had been 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:41.800 to Nuccia and man, if we had had an opportunity 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:45.840 to just have any type of putting any drives together 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:48.520 anything like, we would have beat those guys easily. That's 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:51.480 just my feeling on how bad they are. But the 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:54.800 NFC East is just there. And so every time, you know, 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:56.680 we try and get out, they pull us back in. 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:59.520 You start to seeing those little percentages start to add 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:01.760 up and say to yourself, oh my god, we have 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:04.240 a chance. And even with all of the injuries that 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:06.680 we have, if you just look at the horizon, you 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:10.400 it clearly there is a pathway to actually getting into 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:15.120 the playoffs. Crazy. We said it a long time ago, 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:16.720 at least I know I said something. I said it 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:19.120 a while back. It doesn't matter how you get in 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:22.800 the playoffs. It doesn't matter how ugly it is. But 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:26.080 as long as you get in there, everything resets and 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:29.520 you're now in a four game season, that's all that matters. 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:33.080 That's all that matters. So it could look as ugly 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:34.960 as it wants to. But as long as these guys 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:37.000 have opportunity, they always have a chance to turn it 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:39.320 on and start playing better ball. We recognize over the 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:41.920 past few games they have been playing better ball. Right, 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:44.160 it's got a little bit better, you know. I think 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:46.520 that the actual bye week, everybody thinks it came at 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:47.960 a good time, I think it came at a bad 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:51.320 time because they would be that momentum. Yeah, because you're 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:53.520 playing better. So we'll see how these guys bounce back 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:56.840 against another great opponent. But I think I think, you know, 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:58.920 we'll see. Man, there's a chance. There's a chance, And 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:01.040 that's all we gotta ask for this league. Rather whether 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:03.760 you're you know, you're you're freaking nine and nine and 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:06.520 oh or yeah, two and set, it doesn't really matter. 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:07.920 As long as you got a chance to win year 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:10.080 and win your division. That's what the goal is. The 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:11.600 first goal that you set forth in it when you 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:14.520 go to camp. Now, and I actually gave the division 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:16.880 a little bit too much credit. They actually only have 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:19.640 ten combined wins through ten weeks of the season, so 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:23.320 they're averaging they're averaging one win per week out of 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:26.840 four teams. That's pretty darn bad. That's pretty awful. So, 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:29.520 but Isaiah, I wanted to kind of turn that back 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:31.480 around on you here and as a player in a 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:33.600 bye week, what is it like coming back from a 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:35.720 bye week? Because I mean, of course, like you said, 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:38.720 it kills momentum from one standpoint, but you rest up 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:40.800 in other standpoints and they kind of you have that 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:43.520 balance back and forth. How tough is it to balance? 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:48.080 And where does it start from a player's standpoint? Yeah, 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:50.760 it really depends on on the players. I would imagine 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:53.360 with this, hopefully with the leadership from Mike McCarthy, I 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:56.559 would assume that he that he probably made all his 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:58.320 guys aware that he didn't want them to leave town. 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:00.880 That that had been my advice. If I was him, 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:02.880 I would want guys to stay close. I would want guys, 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:04.440 even though it's a bye week, it's a bye week 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:06.839 off of your legs and off of your body, um 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:10.000 so much so versus actually just like leaving like we 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:11.719 have to be engaged where we're in to think of 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:14.679 these things. If you're if you're the Pittsburgh Steelers and 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:17.000 you're hitting your bye week and you're nine and old, 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:19.720 guess what, guys, go kick it for you know, four days, 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:21.840 go go hang out, have a good time, come back, 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:25.000 be ready to grow. But when you're two and seven, fellas, 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:27.760 I need you guys in the facility once a day 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:30.240 watching film or at least hop hopping onto your tablet 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:33.720 and watching film and staying engaged because we can't afford 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:36.080 at any point in time right now to to to 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:40.200 you know, slack off. You know, I think that's I 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:42.880 think that what what what you just said, Isaiah is 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:45.920 right on queue with what this team needs. But at 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:47.960 the same time, if coaches having to tell them that, 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:51.319 especially where they are, uh, that would kind of be disheartening. 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:53.880 You're two and seven, You're you're starting to catch some 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:57.000 type of rhythm, but guys have to stay in their playbooks. 0:09:57.000 --> 0:09:59.560 And you know, for me, over the bye week, I 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:01.760 had an off oportunity to look over all the games 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:04.200 again and just looking at the first quarter of the 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:08.040 season and just seeing how in disarray we were with 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:11.079 our whole scheme, and God's not especially on defense. God's 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:13.880 just not understanding what was going on. You're still even 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:16.960 up until this day seeing guys trying to get lined up, 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:20.200 and I think those last minute trying to get aligned 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:23.960 is allowing for gaping holes in our defense. Offensively, the 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:27.160 offensive line has just not been healthy, so these guys 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:30.200 have got to try. Well. Can see that if by 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:33.480 being healthy, playing together, and just getting better as a team, 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:36.360 it's gonna help the second half of the season be 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:39.840 a success. Yeah, I didn't go back and watch the 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:42.199 games like you did, heck, but I can only imagine 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:45.199 the difference defensively, like what it looked like compared to 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:47.880 the last couple of games, because it has been an improvement. 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:51.240 To your point, Isaiah, I'd be surprised if anybody left 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:54.360 town just because of the COVID stuff. You know, I 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:56.880 think that's a message across the league trying to, you know, 0:10:56.960 --> 0:10:59.600 ensure don't leave town, stay, bubble up the best you 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:02.080 can and try to get through this season, and especially 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:05.200 with the Cowboys being in that intensive protocol last week 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:07.520 as a precaution, the goal I think is to get 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:10.719 back today and get back into meetings and I think 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:13.000 we're going to hear from from Mike McCarthy later this 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:15.120 afternoon for his press conference, so we'll see kind of 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:18.800 where they are. But that's that's the whole other dynamic 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:20.680 with this season. You know, it's a bye week and 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:22.880 probably the best, the only thing you could do, or 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:24.160 the best thing you can do, is just stay home 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:25.959 and rest and try to heal up if you've been 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:29.320 banged up. Now, we just learned that heckma did his 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:31.360 homework over the bye week. I don't know how much 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:34.320 homework we all did. I put my phone away. I said, 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:35.959 I'm not going to get on Twitter. I'm not gonna 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:38.400 watch a ton of football. I watched the NFC East games, 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:40.080 but that was about it. I didn't do any film 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:42.360 or anything this past week. But heck, when when you 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:47.240 were going about its short timers, man, whatever, whatever. So 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:50.040 I do want to ask, so when you went back 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:52.959 and you watch these games, was there specifics that stuck 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:55.560 out to you that that kind of either caught your 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:58.760 eye or raised questions in terms of not only the 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:01.520 growth but maybe even in decay of some players. Whenever 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:06.120 he comes from week one to week nine of the year, Man, 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:08.280 you just had so many problems at the beginning of 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:10.720 the season. I mean, if you could just categorize the 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:13.320 first four games, it was like an amusement park. You 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:15.000 didn't know what you were gonna get. Some of the 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:20.280 coaching decisions things like that. I mean, it was really funny, man, 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:24.360 the punts, the fake punts, and just it was comedy. Man, 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:27.720 our first four games and says Cowboy fans, I'm sure, man, 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:30.640 that roller coaster rod is not fun. But then over 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:34.160 the next couple of games, it was just disaster. Defensively, 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:37.760 guys just couldn't get a line. And with done Terry 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:40.360 pole Man, it just it never clicked for him, and 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:42.880 he was a lot of the problems that we were 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:45.240 having in the middle of our defense. Him just getting 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:48.240 dug out of there. And that's why those running those 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:51.080 teams could just run on us at will. You know, 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:53.520 they're just safety wise. I know we started off the 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:56.000 season talking about what we needed, bringing guys in from 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:59.000 off the street. Safety wise, Man, we don't have a lot. 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:01.800 I mean, Exavier Woods, you know, Blessed, it is hard. 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:04.200 I think he's playing to the best of his potential, 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:08.800 but it's just he's leaving a lot to be desired 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:11.320 at the safety position, and we just haven't found that 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:13.880 balance there. There are a lot of guys that need 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:15.800 to be looked at, and I mean a lot of 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:18.640 guys that are still on the roster that we need 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:20.960 to talk about and see if they're gonna be here 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:24.520 next year because we're not getting effort out of guys 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:28.600 that we're actually paying big, good money to be here. 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:30.200 So those are the things that I want to see 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:32.520 over the second half of the season, just how those 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:38.000 guys start to perform well. Whenever it comes to the 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:40.280 players that are gonna be here next year, And we 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:42.160 kind of talked about this a little bit, but now, 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:46.120 of course with especially the defense, and we saw the 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:49.920 the addition via subtraction with Dantari Poe, and we've seen 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:51.920 a little bit of a shift in the thinking of 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:54.720 the interior of that defensive line over the last two weeks. 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:57.960 But also in the secondary, there's guys playing for their jobs. 0:13:57.960 --> 0:14:00.040 And I think Isaiah said this last week where it 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.480 came to the point of Trayvon Diggs is now out 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:04.560 for four to six weeks with his ankle injury or 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:08.000 his foot injury. Now you're starting to find out who's 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:11.920 gonna play alongside Trayvon Diggs next year in this secondary, 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:15.040 whether it's the safety position or the corner opposite of them. 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:18.840 Anthony Brown's the only one that's under contract past this season, 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:20.920 so we've got a lot to talk about when we 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:24.680 come back here on Talking Cowboys. We're actually gonna address 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:27.080 some of those issues and address some of those players 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:29.080 back and forth in a game I like to call 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:31.840 groove on or move on. We're gonna take some of 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:34.720 these guys that are contract players and we're gonna play 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:36.720 gm on whether or not we want them to be 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:39.080 back based on the first part of the season when 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:44.600 we return here. 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Hope everybody had a nice and rested 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:09.440 bye week and the ready to get after it this 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:13.320 week as the Minnesota Vikings are up next on the schedule, 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:16.560 so I'd ease this going into the break. But there's 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:19.840 a couple of players, to say the least, probably not 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:22.119 as much as last year. I think last year we 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:26.040 saw more roster turnover at least potential roster turnover than 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:28.640 we are going to see this offseason. But I kind 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:31.720 of wanted to get your gauge, your feelings on some 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:34.760 guys through the first half of the season, or at 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:36.960 least up until the bye week over half of the 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:39.439 season now, and I wanted to hear whether or not 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:42.320 you would keep these guys around if you were the GM. 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:45.240 We're calling it groove on or move on in terms 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:48.720 of the players that you have to deal with. And 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:50.959 I've got one of two ways we can do this, 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:53.000 and I'll let you guys decide this on air. We 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:55.919 could either pick a specific player and debate about it 0:17:56.600 --> 0:17:59.160 for each person, or I could run down the list 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:03.040 of avail or I guess unrestricted free agents going into 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:06.040 the twenty twenty one off season, which we're out there. 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:08.080 You want me to throw it out there and I'll 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:11.440 talk about him. Yeah, okay, so this is this is 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:13.920 if the money is right, do we even want them 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:15.840 on our team? Is ultimately what we're going to talk 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:19.399 about here in terms of these guys moving into twenty 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:22.120 twenty one, and Rob, you said it last week very well. 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:25.240 I thought, based off of what Stephen Jones said and 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:27.959 based off of what Jerry said and basically running it 0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:30.480 back from a Cowboys perspective. And we're gonna try and 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:32.600 figure out who we're gonna run it back with. I'm 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:36.240 gonna start on the offensive line. Joe Looney. Do you 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:38.720 think Joe Looney could be a valuable piece to this 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:41.919 franchise moving forward at the center position. He is an 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:48.040 unrestricted free agent. We'll start with you, Isaiah. I'm keeping 0:18:48.119 --> 0:18:51.520 him only if he's willing to move to guard. You're 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:56.120 still on that guard. I'm on, I'm on if he's 0:18:56.160 --> 0:19:01.439 playing a guard. Okay, Yeah, I'm okay, I'm I'm moving on, 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:04.640 and I'm moving on because I want to develop McGovern. 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:06.280 I think he gave you a little bit of something, 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:10.879 a glimpse. Uh And be honest, is you know we 0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:13.920 know we're getting with beyondest. He's uh, he's the next 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:17.959 guy up, and he's a lone lineage of great sinners 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:20.880 and offensive linemen that are coming from Wisconsin. So I'm 0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:27.400 all in, Rob, I'm I'm grooving on Joe Jumbo. I think, 0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:31.639 uh now, is there. Are you saying, like maybe because 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:33.199 you'd like to move one of the guards out to 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:36.119 tackle potentially like a Connor Williams. Is that kind of 0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:38.200 what are you thinking or just in terms of that's 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:40.480 a better spot for Joe. I think it's a better 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:42.560 spot for him. I don't think Carter Williams is our 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:44.800 is our guard. I don't think he can do that. 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:47.439