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Speaker 1: It is a Friday. It was a wild night, gonna

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Speaker 1: be another one tonight. We're live or in Chicago. It's

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Speaker 1: So we have talked about this at Big Ten. The

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Speaker 1: NIL has done the Big Ten a lot of favors.

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Speaker 1: So right now Purdue is in Iowa and Illinois, they're

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Speaker 1: all in the elite eighth and Michigan Michigan State plate.

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Speaker 1: Tonight you could have a all Big Ten final four.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you're going to I think Arizona maybe

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Speaker 1: the best team in the country. They looked late last night. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we told you Arizona Arkans. It's all going to be

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Speaker 1: a lot of points. But you know, we all talk

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Speaker 1: about the nil Of the five biggest spenders in college basketball,

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Speaker 1: nil four or gone, Duke is the only one left.

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Speaker 1: Kentucky won a single game, same with Louisville and for

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Speaker 1: the record, BYU's the second biggest spender in college basketball.

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Speaker 1: One and Done did not win a game. So it's

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Speaker 1: just like life. You can make a huge salary, but

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Speaker 1: what are your financial choices? Four cars, Sorry, you're a moron,

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Speaker 1: six boats, jet skis moron, moron, I mean, what are

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Speaker 1: you buying? Are you buying depreciating assets or accelerating assets

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Speaker 1: real estate equities over a long stretch. So it's just

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Speaker 1: a same thing. In the nil Iowa of the Sweet

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Speaker 1: sixteen teams, Iowa and Iowa State spend the least. Iowa's

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Speaker 1: in the el eed eight. Illinois spent a fortune. They

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Speaker 1: spent a fortune overseas, they went and bought size. They're big.

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Speaker 1: Michigan's in the middle. Michigan State. By the way, all

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Speaker 1: five of their starters started their career at Michigan State.

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Speaker 1: Purdue does that. We talked about this yesterday. Purdue's like,

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Speaker 1: we pay our guys. Four of produced five starters, but

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Speaker 1: they started at Purdue. So there's a lot of different

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Speaker 1: ways to do it. Iowa doesn't spend any money. Illinois

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Speaker 1: spends a fortune. You know Purdue Nebraska who got bounced

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that money doesn't matter. But it's just

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Speaker 1: like having a big salary. What's the state tax rate,

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Speaker 1: you have multiple cars, you have depreciating assets that's on you.

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Speaker 1: You buy real estate equities, the dollar goes further, You'll

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Speaker 1: have a nicer retirement. So you know, I'm just watching

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Speaker 1: like Illinois hammer Houston, and you know, there was a

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Speaker 1: bite earlier this season. I'm not saying money doesn't matter,

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Speaker 1: because Illinois went and bought great young talent from Europe

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Speaker 1: and Houston. Here's a bite from Kelvin Samson earlier. It

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Speaker 1: does matter. Are you a school academically that graduates a

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Speaker 1: lot of affluent boosters. Here's what Kelvin Samson said earlier

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Speaker 3: We have a very poor athletic department. We're poor.

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Speaker 4: You know, we're poor when I got here, and we're

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Speaker 4: still poor. We probably have the lowest budget of anybody

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Speaker 4: in power for you know, and you know the way our.

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Speaker 3: Recruiting is going.

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Speaker 4: We have to stop at some point because we don't

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Speaker 4: have enough money to keep bringing in really good players.

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Speaker 4: Teams that have the best recruiting classes usually have the

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Speaker 3: That's the way it is.

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Speaker 1: Today, Absolutely right. But the biggest spender this year was

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Speaker 1: Kentucky twenty million dollars won a game BYU Louisville, Iowa.

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Speaker 1: Didn't spend anything relative to the other Sweet sixteen teams.

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Speaker 1: I also think something that helps the Big Ten immensely.

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Speaker 1: I can say this. When I was a kid, I

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Speaker 1: didn't watch SEC football. I watched the Big Ten, the

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Speaker 1: Big Ten in the Rose Bowl. The Big Ten is

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Speaker 1: perfectly situated in the middle of the country. And when

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Speaker 1: The Big Ten coffers are getting full. They have pulled away.

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Speaker 1: that's not good for the sport. Well, the ratings are up.

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Speaker 1: so Iowa is in. Iowa didn't spend any money. Purdue

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Speaker 1: so did Kentucky. They're not here. Here's Iowa's coach after

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Speaker 1: moving to the Elite eight.

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Speaker 3: Maybe they should have seen it this better. No, I'm skindding.

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Speaker 3: They seed it us right where we should.

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Speaker 5: We just and then we lost some games. We probably

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Speaker 5: shouldn't have Cinderella. Whatever they want to call us, I mean,

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Speaker 5: just wear in the Elda, that's what they need to

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Speaker 1: could be six. But remember Iowa beat Nebraska, so they

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Speaker 1: other thing is they got really good coaches right now.

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Speaker 1: The Big ten's got the most probably the most good coaches.

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Speaker 1: So the Dodgers opened the season last night. They beat

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Speaker 1: and he said, yeah, we need more parody, But I

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Speaker 1: want to talk about something about baseball that doesn't get

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Speaker 1: the Phillies, the best player in baseball, went one for eighteen.

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Speaker 1: You also have pitching injuries over the course of the season.

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Speaker 1: Dodgers last season had two elimination games against the Blue Jays.

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Speaker 1: The NLDS, the Dodgers have gotten they got breaks in

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Speaker 1: a ton of randomness. You gotta have you got to

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Speaker 1: you know. And in football, if you don't have the

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Speaker 1: not really a viable team. But in baseball, you can

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Speaker 1: like the Guardians and the Brewers and make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Lowsy Angels last year, think about this, the randomness of baseball.

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Speaker 3: We have a certain standard of excellence.

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Speaker 6: And I think that even when you watch as Colin,

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Speaker 6: how we play the game, run the basis, play defense.

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Speaker 6: It matters how we practice. I think the messag as

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Speaker 6: far as keep the blinders on, get the blinders on,

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Speaker 6: And I think that the lore is right there, that trophy,

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Speaker 1: So, j Mac, you love your college basketball, I will

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Speaker 1: tell you, I think the only team that feels like

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Speaker 1: Arizona does not take or make a lot of threes.

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Speaker 1: Last night they didn't take money, but they hit almost

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Speaker 1: you think they're the over one. I still think Michigan

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well, we would love to get that game, right,

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Speaker 8: A big matchup of a bunch of studs. I do

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Speaker 8: think the Arizona backcourt is just unbelievable. The senior defensive

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Speaker 9: I mean, they're stacked. They looked amazing.

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Speaker 8: But collin that Iowa game, how crazy is it that

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Speaker 9: I mean, iowauld in leite.

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Speaker 8: They trailed for thirty eight minutes, yep, and then unbelievably

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Speaker 9: Four guys on the court. That was crazy.

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Speaker 8: How there was just a breakdown out of the time

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Speaker 8: That game was unbelievable.

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Speaker 9: It was the final game of a six game road trip.

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Speaker 8: The Lakers lay no defense, gave it like a buck

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Speaker 1: Houston heat Detroit without Kate Cunningham, the problem is SGA

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Speaker 1: One of the things that frustrates a lot of people,

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Speaker 1: myself included about the media is they bring up things

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Speaker 1: that nobody really cares about. Watch out for this. This

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Speaker 1: is a problem, and nobody really thinks it's a problem.

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Speaker 1: I think one of that One of those examples would

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Speaker 1: be like occasionally yelling at a player I played in

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Speaker 1: high school sports. Every coach I think at our conference

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Speaker 1: was a screamer and they were fine. You know what

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Speaker 1: is coaching other than taking you to a place you

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Speaker 1: can't get to by yourself. That's what coaching is. So

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Speaker 1: tom Izzo is loud, he uses volume, and he addressed

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Speaker 1: it this week.

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Speaker 11: I don't give a damn. I don't, but I'd tell

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Speaker 11: you what. I don't have many players that leave. I

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Speaker 11: don't have many players that don't come back. So somebody

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Speaker 11: must enjoy something. Accountability is going to be big till

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Speaker 11: I leave. That bothers some people, God bless them.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 1: So I mean to me, gentle parenting or negotiating with

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Speaker 1: your kids, good luck with that. I don't think it works.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they did a study in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: They did a study and they found that children raised

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Speaker 1: with authoritative parenting styles achieved more academically. And similarly, on

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Speaker 1: another study, they discovered that a lack of like authoritative

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Speaker 1: parenting like sometimes parents say because I'm the parent, the

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Speaker 1: parents that didn't parent like that, the children. The number

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Speaker 1: one factor in low life satisfaction was not having a

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Speaker 1: parent who directed traffic. That's I mean, I'm just going

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Speaker 1: back to my life in college and high school. My

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Speaker 1: favorite teachers occasionally barked I needed to be barked at.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't always this likable. Here's here's Dan Hurley talking

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Speaker 1: about tough coaching.

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Speaker 13: Yeah. I just think that's you know, society we've gotten

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Speaker 13: often in a lot of ways. I think with you know,

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Speaker 13: trying to develop young people. I think young people, the

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Speaker 13: teachers and coaches that impact their lives the most are

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Speaker 13: not the teachers and coaches that like gave him a

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Speaker 13: grade they didn't deserve. I mean, you remember the teachers

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Speaker 13: and coaches that pushed you to your maximum, you know,

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Speaker 13: that pushed you beyond your comfort level, that got the

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Speaker 13: most out of you. That English teacher that you know,

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Speaker 13: made you do the work and the tests were hard

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Speaker 13: and you had to study hard and just think the

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Speaker 13: same thing applies to coaching.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And people will say, well, what about Bob Knight, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he went over the line all the time. Most coaches

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Speaker 1: don't do that. And for the record, Jay Wright is

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Speaker 1: not a yeller and a screamer. Hurley yells at officials

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Speaker 1: way more than his players. Shryzhevsky yelled at both. Some

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Speaker 1: guys is old get you know, he barks at both.

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Speaker 1: But I've never heard a player say he hates tom Izzo.

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Speaker 1: I really don't. And again, I had yellers and screamers,

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Speaker 1: and kids know they're not yelling and screaming to yell

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Speaker 1: and scream, and a lot of these high volume coaches,

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Speaker 1: they're the ones remaining. So remember this is not the

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Speaker 1: NBA playoffs. You don't have seven games. You've got basically

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Speaker 1: a timeout, a ten second moment with a kid, or

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Speaker 1: a brief halftime. You know, you don't have seven games

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Speaker 1: to massage your message. You got to get stuff solved fast.

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Speaker 1: And so this is one of those things that it's

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Speaker 1: just sort of understood that Nick saban Bart Clay held

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Speaker 1: the USC did not, and that was one of the knocks.

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Speaker 1: Is the program kind of lacked an urgency a lot

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Speaker 1: of these guys who are nice guys. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: was talking about this to somebody the other day about coaching,

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Speaker 1: and I said, you know, you need a little you

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Speaker 1: need about ten percent of jerk. Sometimes sometimes it's you

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Speaker 1: got to say stuff that's hard on kids. It's there.

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Speaker 1: They're fine, they're they're malleable. You know. So last night

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Speaker 1: and we told you yesterday on the show, we said

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Speaker 1: Arkansas verse Arizona. I like Arizona, but I said, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be wild and fun to watch. Darius A. Cliff

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Speaker 1: for Arkansas is going to be a big score in

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Speaker 1: the NBA. You know, he's not a great defender, but

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Speaker 1: you know how when I say to you, great NBA defender,

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Speaker 1: can you name ten? Take out Wemby? Name ten? There's

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Speaker 1: not ten great NBA defenders. So it's an offensive league

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Speaker 1: seventy thirty. Now, I think Wemby is so good historically

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Speaker 1: that that carries his off offensive nights and he would

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Speaker 1: be my MVP. But I Darius A. Cup is phenomenal player,

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Speaker 1: catch and shoot, drive and shoot excellent passer, and he's

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Speaker 1: got the he's got everything. He's small, you know, listed

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Speaker 1: at six three's probably closer to six one and a half,

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Speaker 1: but he's electric. He's going to be a really good

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Speaker 1: NBA player. But last night, there's only so much you

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Speaker 1: can do. Arizona is one of those teams, and that

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Speaker 1: was the worst loss for John Calipari in the history

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Speaker 1: of the tournament for him. And this Arkansas team's good

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Speaker 1: and Calipari has done a great job everywhere he's gone

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Speaker 1: in increasing personnel and commitment. Arkansas is a good team.

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Speaker 1: But I mean Arizona, I mean, the only shortcoming is

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Speaker 1: they don't shoot and make a lot of threes. Last

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Speaker 1: night they shot like eight and they made like six,

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Speaker 1: So that's a Arizona's not maybe built to come from

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Speaker 1: way behind, but they don't really fall way behind. And

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Speaker 1: here's Calipari on what he watched.

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Speaker 14: Arizona is really good and if they shoot the ball

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Speaker 14: that way and do the things they did today, Wow,

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Speaker 14: But that was a hard one, you know, and they

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Speaker 14: got us from right to the beginning. We kind of

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Speaker 14: kept it a little close. But they're good, really good team.

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Speaker 1: So in tournament history, something happened. Arizona had six players

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Speaker 1: with fourteen or more points. That never happened. Ever, six

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Speaker 1: guys with fourteen plus points. So Arizona's got guys off

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Speaker 1: the bench who could start for Arkansas, and Arkansas's good.

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Speaker 1: So I think Michigan to me, Michigan and Arizona from

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Speaker 1: what I've seen, and now Michigan is also a team

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Speaker 1: that can be not great on the wings. They're about

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Speaker 1: Mara and Lendenburg. They're about size. Arizona is about size

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Speaker 1: and depth. So you know, and let's be honest, you're

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Speaker 1: all saying Tommy Lloyd, he's gonna take that Carolina job.

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Speaker 1: Arizona's been good since like eighty three. They were awful.

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Speaker 1: Loudohlson took over and they were good the first year

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Speaker 1: of Loudolsen, like the first year, they were good. They

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Speaker 1: have been good for I shouldn't say they were awful.

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Speaker 1: They took over and I have recalled they were okay,

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Speaker 1: but with Loot they won day one. So I have

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Speaker 1: no idea why you would leave Arizona. Usually the way

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Speaker 1: it works in college sports, the athletic department picks a

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Speaker 1: side like Georgia and Penn State football Duke and Arizona basketball.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna spend money on Who's here's their coach, Tommy

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Speaker 1: Lloyd on the Nile.

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Speaker 7: There's lots of reasons I took the Arizona job, and

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Speaker 7: one of them was kind of forecasting these changes happening,

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Speaker 7: because right right when I was getting the job, the

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Speaker 7: nil deal was rumored, and then it started in July,

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Speaker 7: and I just I figured, Arizona's a place that.

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Speaker 9: Is a pretty strong long.

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Speaker 7: Basketball tradition, and they're going to be excited to invest

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Speaker 7: in basketball, and we have.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Arizona's a great job. And Tucson, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, basketball a lot of a lot of winter

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Speaker 1: basketball starts in you know, October, November, December, January two

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Speaker 1: sounds pretty good place to live. In the summer, you

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Speaker 1: can head to the Hills.

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Speaker 2: One more Herd the Dams twenty four hours a day,

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Speaker 2: seven days a week. Within the iHeartRadio app, search her

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Speaker 1: So Mick Cronin's UCLA Bruins. Beat Illinois this year, beat

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Speaker 1: Purdue this year, beat Michigan State this year, and battle

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Speaker 1: with Arizona, who many believes the best team. I think

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Speaker 1: Michigan's the best team, and Mick cronin UCLA Basketball coach,

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Speaker 1: two time Pack twelve Coach of the Year twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three is joining US Okay, So you also

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Speaker 1: played Yukon and you beat Michigan State. I think that

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Speaker 1: game is interesting. Cohen Carr is one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: players in the tournament. He's just this relentless guy. I

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Speaker 1: kind of thought what happened to you in the second

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Speaker 1: half of Yukon is what happens to a lot of

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Speaker 1: people with Yukon their physical you know, you end up

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Speaker 1: it's hard to hit shots. Yukon, Michigan State. You beat

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Speaker 1: Michigan State, what's the game going to look like do

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Speaker 1: you think tonight?

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Speaker 15: I think it's just going to be whose defense is

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Speaker 15: better at the end of the day. They're both built

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Speaker 15: on toughness and defense with great coaches at the They

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Speaker 15: do it differently though. Yukon is a real pressure team

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Speaker 15: on the ball, and as you said, you know, they

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Speaker 15: our guards didn't finish the kind of wore them down.

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Speaker 15: We didn't have our best player in the game, Tyler Billodeau,

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Speaker 15: And they do wear teams down with that relentless effort

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Speaker 15: on the ball. Defensively, Michigan State is a team defense,

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Speaker 15: but highly effective. Both you know, obviously both great coaches.

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Speaker 15: Both will end up in the Hall of Fame. One

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Speaker 15: already is, so they may wear football pads tonight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You know, Illinois I think was the best offensive team

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Speaker 1: in the country. You beat them, You have to hit

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Speaker 1: your shots to beat them because they're gonna score. Are

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Speaker 1: you surprise? I don't think anybody surprised Illinois here. They

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Speaker 1: spent a lot of money. Their nil was a lot.

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Speaker 1: They went to Europe. Underwood likes European guys. Michigan State's

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Speaker 1: not a surprise. It's interesting. Matt Painter's interesting. He brings

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Speaker 1: about one guy a year in He basically pays his

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Speaker 1: on guys like they do their own thing in West Lafayette.

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Speaker 1: Are you surprised? I'm not surprised because I think they

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Speaker 1: feel a little villanova to me. You know, they kind

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Speaker 1: of they do their own thing. They high school it.

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Speaker 1: The guys say they're Are you surprised by any of

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Speaker 1: these Big ten teams so far? No?

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Speaker 3: Now, I'll give you know so I've been in the

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Speaker 3: league two years.

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Speaker 15: But Susher lawyer Trey Kauflin Renn and Superman is what

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Speaker 15: I call Braden Smith. They said it in an interview

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Speaker 15: in January early February that in their four years, the

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Speaker 15: Big Tens by far has the most talent and is

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Speaker 15: as good a league as they've ever been in.

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Speaker 3: And it's just surpassed their first three years.

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Speaker 15: And that's coming from those four, you know, those three guys.

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Speaker 15: So I would say, you know, for Purdue mass enjoying it.

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Speaker 15: I think you know, Colin their preseason number one. It

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Speaker 15: was almost like to me, they just got to get

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Speaker 15: through the regular season. Yeah, because they've been you know,

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Speaker 15: Smith already one Player of the Year, they've all been

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Speaker 15: All League already, they've won big games. They needed to

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Speaker 15: get through the regular season, get healthy, and get to

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Speaker 15: this tournament.

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Speaker 3: Not that they didn't care, but you know what I'm

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Speaker 3: saying kind of like.

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Speaker 15: A you know, great teams in the NBA is just

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Speaker 15: get me to the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: And I think you're you know, you're seeing it now.

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Speaker 15: But they got an obviously Saturday, tremendously tough matchup with Arizona.

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Speaker 1: So I've been defending coaches that bark this week, and

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Speaker 1: I think most people, I think most people understand that

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Speaker 1: volume works because one of the things I always say

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Speaker 1: as an NBA coach, gets multiple games in a series,

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Speaker 1: you get a thirty second time out and the season's

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Speaker 1: on the line. You get one game, one bad call

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Speaker 1: by an official, one of your guys gets in foul trouble.

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Speaker 1: You know, careers end what has always been your sort

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Speaker 1: of rule. Arenas are loud, it's intense. You want to play,

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Speaker 1: you want to get along with the player, But they

643
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Speaker 1: can transfer at any time. It's a different ballgame. Where

644
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Speaker 1: do you land on tough coaching hard coaching in the

645
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Speaker 1: world of the transfer.

646
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Speaker 3: Portal no different than before.

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Speaker 15: I think first of all, your players have to know

648
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Speaker 15: that you know what you're talking about, so do they

649
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Speaker 15: believe you're making them a better player. Secondly, they signed

650
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Speaker 15: up to play for coaches that winning is the only

651
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Speaker 15: thing acceptable. Listening is the only thing that's acceptable, and

652
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Speaker 15: doing whatever it takes and giving your best effort is

653
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Speaker 15: the only thing acceptable. So they understand when they didn't

654
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Speaker 15: do that, they didn't listen repeatedly, went over a scouting

655
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Speaker 15: reported a million times, and they didn't do the job right.

656
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Speaker 15: So you know, it's becomes colin such a clickbait world

657
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Speaker 15: that I'll give you a quick one. Rick Patino last

658
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Speaker 15: year didn't put r J. Lewis in the game at

659
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Speaker 15: the end. If you remember they lost to Arkansas. He

660
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Speaker 15: was their best player and he got murdered. Murdered, And

661
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Speaker 15: he may be the best college coach since John wouldn't.

662
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Speaker 15: He's argued with him, Mike Eschewski, Bob Knight, obviously John.

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Speaker 3: Wooden would be one.

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Speaker 15: Okay, Now this year, everybody's celebrating coach Patino because Dylan

665
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Speaker 15: Darling made a layup. Now if he doesn't make that

666
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Speaker 15: and they lose an overtime, oh he blew.

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Speaker 3: A twelve point ly.

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Speaker 15: But you know everybody is today, what can I say

669
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Speaker 15: jump on to look at the end of the day,

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Speaker 15: whether Darling makes that lay up or not. Rick Ptino

671
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Speaker 15: is one of the best ever and everybody, everybody does

672
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Speaker 15: him different differently, and right now it's oh, you know,

673
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Speaker 15: this guy's too intense tonight. I heard Dan Hurley and

674
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Speaker 15: coaches both getting asked those questions. Look, when you win,

675
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Speaker 15: everybody loves you. When you lose, everybody crushes you. And

676
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Speaker 15: that's just well, and we get paid a lot of money.

677
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Speaker 15: So if you can't take the heat. You will not

678
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Speaker 15: survive the kitchen in this era because it's twenty four

679
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Speaker 15: to seventh scrup Saint John's's.

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Speaker 1: I mean they beat Kansas, and Kansas outshot him, points

681
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Speaker 1: in the paint, more rebounds, and cause Saint John's is

682
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Speaker 1: a team that just you know, they Beatino laughs. He's like,

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Speaker 1: they don't think we can shoot, and so far we're

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Speaker 1: proving him right. Would you be shown if Saint John's

685
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Speaker 1: beat Duke tonight, would it shock you?

686
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 15: I think everybody has picked Saint John's because coach Patina

688
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Speaker 15: is like my older brother. Now, I mean, I wouldn't

689
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Speaker 15: be here if it wasn't for him. I think everybody's

690
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Speaker 15: picking them. They're the trendy pick. They're forgetting how talented

691
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Speaker 15: Duke is. It will be to me, it would be

692
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Speaker 15: a monumental upset.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 15: It's because Saint John's is all tried and athleticism. They

695
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Speaker 15: have to turn Duke over and be able to get

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Speaker 15: the ball in the basket. Because the oldest thing is

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Speaker 15: Colin you can't press if you don't score, so you

698
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Speaker 15: can't pick them up full court and do what you

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Speaker 15: do if you can't get it in the basket. Guess

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Speaker 15: who's number one in defensive efficiency? Hardest team to score

701
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Speaker 15: on Duke. So, uh, it's to me it's gonna be.

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Speaker 15: It would be a big, big upset, although obviously I'll

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Speaker 15: be wearing red form my man coas Patino tonight.

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Speaker 1: I think Michigan is the best team. Talk about Michigan,

705
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Speaker 1: the Michigan you face. You know Lindenborg's terrific. You obviously

706
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Speaker 1: know Mara. You tell me what you think about their roster.

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Speaker 15: We have three first round picks. Lenden Borg's a lottery picked.

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Speaker 15: Mara's going to be a tremendous pro. He just needed

709
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Speaker 15: time to grow up incrementally better each year. And it's

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Speaker 15: a disadvantage, you know when you come from a small

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Speaker 15: town in Spain.

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Speaker 3: He just needed time and growth. He's a great kid.

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Speaker 15: Uh And Mares Johnson is Montrezrell's I mean almost, but

714
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Speaker 15: he's a little taller. Their front line is unbelievable now.

715
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Speaker 15: Cason getting hurt took a little punch away from them,

716
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Speaker 15: but they bring a guy off to best Trey McKinney's

717
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Speaker 15: play a long time in the NBA.

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Speaker 3: They have the best talent they have seniors.

719
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Speaker 15: Rod they haven't got Roddy Dale off the bench and

720
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Speaker 15: would start for any other team in a Big Ten.

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Speaker 15: So their talent, I agree with you at times. At

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Speaker 15: times I think they take early shots and settle and

723
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Speaker 15: they let teams hang around out of overconfidence.

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Speaker 3: Because in early in the season, you're talking.

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Speaker 15: About a team that was winning games by forty points

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Speaker 15: against Gonzaga, you know, team like real teams, like who

727
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Speaker 15: does that? So you know, again, I think for them,

728
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Speaker 15: and they did it against Purdue in the Big Ten

729
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Speaker 15: championship game. They let produce stay in the game. So

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Speaker 15: they tend to let you stay around by shooting early

731
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Speaker 15: threes and not just pounding you to death with their size.

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Speaker 15: If they do that and they played to their maximum,

733
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Speaker 15: I totally agree with you.

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Speaker 3: They're the best.

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Speaker 1: Team you guys gave Arizona. If I recall a good game,

736
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Speaker 1: I mean, they they have bench guys that can start

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Speaker 1: for teams. What is the they don't shoot a lot

738
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Speaker 1: of threes? What is this secret? Your UCLA Bruins gave

739
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Speaker 1: him a battle? What's the secret to beating Arizona.

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Speaker 15: Well, we have blood basts with them every year, so

741
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 15: we kind of know each other so well. The games

742
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Speaker 15: tend to be really close. Tommy Lloyd is an unbelievable coach.

743
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Speaker 15: They their front line. If it gets to Michigan Arizona,

744
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Speaker 15: the front lines are both the best two by far,

745
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Speaker 15: and because they both have three guys. Arizona has crebas

746
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Speaker 15: Co O Pete first round pick and Tobya Waco is

747
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Speaker 15: the strongest player in college basketball. They just dominate you

748
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Speaker 15: in the paint. And that's coaching now. It's always been

749
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Speaker 15: coach Lloyd's styles since he got to Arizona. And they

750
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Speaker 15: put so much pressure on the rim that you foul

751
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Speaker 15: a lot teams getting foul trouble. We're up seven on

752
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Speaker 15: them late and they just they wore us down with

753
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Speaker 15: the constant pressure.

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Speaker 3: And they got a scene.

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Speaker 15: Your point guard column, you know Bradley's is, you know,

756
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Speaker 15: saying Bradley's as good as there is uh out there.

757
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 15: That's not on you know, he'll play in the NBA.

758
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 15: But obviously the freshmen are all the sexy guys for

759
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Speaker 15: the draft, haven't that senior point guard?

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Speaker 3: And then a lottery picked.

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Speaker 15: It to two in Brayden Burry's Uh to me, they're

762
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Speaker 15: they're right there with Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the I don't like to beat up on coaches

764
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Speaker 1: on the Fred Hoiberg had four guys on the floor.

765
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Speaker 1: It's rare, you know, Listen, I've I've watched great coaches

766
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Speaker 1: have ten men on the field in the NFL in

767
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Speaker 1: big third downs, like it happens. It is chaos.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm glad you said that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it just happens. What do you think

770
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Speaker 1: happened in your in your take on it.

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Speaker 15: I mean i'd be you know, since I like the horses,

772
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Speaker 15: I'd be willing to bet you on this. Somebody they

773
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 15: they made a defensive substitution, and two guys thought.

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Speaker 3: They were out not going. That's just my educated guests.

775
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Speaker 15: They made a defensive substitution and said, and you and

776
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Speaker 15: I are both bad defenders, Colin I was.

777
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,240
Speaker 3: I was an offensive player.

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Speaker 15: So and two guys thought they were both out for

779
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 15: defense probably And look, it's just what bothers me about

780
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Speaker 15: all of it. They were ninety eight percent going to lose. Now,

781
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Speaker 15: I mean it was I was balder up three under

782
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Speaker 15: a minute.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know so.

784
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Speaker 15: But obviously if it was, you know, you don't want

785
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Speaker 15: that to happen to anybody. And it's said because Fred

786
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Speaker 15: Woodberg did with the talent he had to me in

787
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Speaker 15: the league. He did it in He's National Coach of

788
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Speaker 15: the Year. But Fred's been through worse things. I mean Fred,

789
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Speaker 15: Fred's living on a pacemaker. So if anybody has great perspective,

790
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Speaker 15: it's definitely Fred.

791
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Speaker 3: I mean, he's the best.

792
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Speaker 1: I didn't think this was controversial when you said it.

793
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Speaker 1: I defended him. I said, you know, UCLA is kind

794
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: of a fascinating school where it's in the nicest thingighborhood

795
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Speaker 1: of any campus in America, but does not have a

796
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Speaker 1: ton of nil. Let us. It's a reality of it.

797
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: So let's go to the bite that made news here.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 3: Big picture wise, third consecutive season, not get into the

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Speaker 3: second weekend of the tournament.

801
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Speaker 7: I know, different seasons, different reasons, But do you feel

802
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 7: like anything needs to change with the approach or after

803
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Speaker 7: construction or the way.

804
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Speaker 3: I have no right now, I'm worried about tonight. Consoling gods.

805
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Speaker 1: We'll stay here in the front row.

806
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Speaker 3: I'd like about five more million. There's my answer.

807
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Speaker 13: Jim Alexander from Orange County Register watching Tyler on the bench.

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Speaker 1: Not yeah. I mean, it's let's be honest. These are

809
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Speaker 1: discussions every coach is having Beds, We're the athletic director.

810
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Speaker 1: Now now it's I've said you don't have a big filter.

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Speaker 1: It's not who you are, authentic guy was UCLA upset

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Speaker 1: with that?

813
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Speaker 3: Don't know?

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Speaker 15: You know, look, look we have n I L. Some

815
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 15: teams have absorbent in I L. Ours is improved from

816
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 15: last year. My administration is working hard to help so

817
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 15: and everybody says, look, some people are just lucky, you know,

818
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 15: Colin Like people say it's the death of the mid Major.

819
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 15: Well not if you have a billionaire donor that wants

820
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Speaker 15: to win, right.

821
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Speaker 3: You know, like any anybody.

822
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Speaker 15: I have friends, the coach in the Mid American Conference,

823
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 15: Acron MIAMI, the two best teams.

824
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Speaker 3: Guess who has the.

825
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Speaker 15: Best at best in I M MIA, miguile an Acron.

826
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Speaker 6: So uh.

827
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Speaker 15: It all matters at the end of the day. But

828
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Speaker 15: it allows you to not be perfect. I talked to

829
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Speaker 15: Bob Myers as some u uh as A basically like

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Speaker 15: a Consuliara he played at UCLA.

831
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Speaker 3: You know, he's the best GM ever.

832
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Speaker 15: And how to work this era, and like his his

833
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 15: analogy was, look, you're never going to be perfect.

834
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Speaker 3: My every draft picked the Warriors made it.

835
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Speaker 15: You know, has not been perfect James wise, maybe, but

836
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Speaker 15: the more resources you have, the more it allows you.

837
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Speaker 3: To make a mistake.

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Speaker 15: Sure, and you know, and you mentioned Illinois, they got

839
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,720
Speaker 15: great support, but they've also were smart enough to sign

840
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Speaker 15: Keaton Bagler, you know, and know they beat Minnesota and

841
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 15: Colorado State to get him, and Murray State, my old schools,

842
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 15: you know. So there's still diamonds in the rough. You're

843
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 15: still trying to put a team together. But there's no

844
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Speaker 15: coach who wouldn't like to have more and it gives

845
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Speaker 15: you a better chance. But we had great support. There's

846
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 15: this levels to it. And obviously the more you have

847
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Speaker 15: Coach Roberts, my buddy here, Dave Roberts, will tell you

848
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 15: it's a lot more fun when you have the best players.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Mick cronin UCLA basketball coach, I imagine you're

850
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Speaker 1: I mean, is this a recruiting period? Can you be

851
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: on the phone now? Already? Have to wait?

852
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 3: We had and this isn't just us.

853
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Speaker 15: We got back Monday from the Philly from the NCAA

854
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 15: tournament and having still haven't hung up the phone, My friend,

855
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Speaker 15: you got to.

856
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 3: Resign your own players.

857
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Speaker 15: And then as you've got to get ready for the portal,

858
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 15: and everybody in college is complaining about the way it is,

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Speaker 15: and it's a waste of time, my friend, but you

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Speaker 15: just got to adjust and deal with what's going on

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Speaker 15: now because as coaches, we have no stay so we're

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Speaker 15: not at the table what's going to go on, and

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Speaker 15: so to me, it's a complete waste of time even

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Speaker 15: talking about it. You better embrace what you need to

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Speaker 15: do right now or you're gonna get left behind. So

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Speaker 15: we just try to focus and we've been signing our

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Speaker 15: own players all week.

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Speaker 1: Nick, great Seni, you have a great weekend watching it.

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Speaker 3: You two, my friend, all the best. Maybe I'll see

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Speaker 3: it against so.

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Speaker 1: All right, Mick cronin UCLA basketball coach. They beat Michigan State,

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Speaker 1: they be Illinois, they beat Purdue. They gave Arizona Ucla

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Speaker 1: as maybe the best West Coast probably the best West

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Speaker 1: Coast rivalry,