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Speaker 1: Wilmer Valdorama is an actor, producer, TV personality, best known

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Speaker 1: for his role as Fez on that seventies show from

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Speaker 1: moving to the US not knowing a single word of

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Speaker 1: English to now becoming a successful businessman. We dive deep

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Speaker 1: into this interview with Wilmer. This is just be with

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Speaker 1: Wilmer Valdorama. How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm excellent, I'm always good.

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Speaker 3: How are you good?

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Speaker 1: Are you in?

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Speaker 3: La I am in? La I am in la I

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Speaker 3: am Thankfully I wrapped the show for the season, so

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Speaker 3: I have a little downtime and then we have like

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Speaker 3: allwering writer's try coming up, so that might be a

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Speaker 3: longer extended victship for a while.

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Speaker 1: But I remember the last one, and I remember my

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Speaker 1: opinion being that reality television show and its explosion being

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Speaker 1: like result of that a reaction to that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was crazy, it was done.

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Speaker 3: It was an alternative programming of all different sorts. And

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Speaker 3: then animation started coming.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, I'm like entertaining a reverend animation and you

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Speaker 1: are your you do voices for animation. You did encanto right,

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Speaker 1: which I did. I don't know do most people know

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Speaker 1: that or do you get like a more sort of

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Speaker 1: incognitle life when you do those projects.

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Speaker 3: That's a great question. It's a great question.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I think I tend to get in front of them

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Speaker 3: as if they were like a primetime show or like

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Speaker 3: a blockbuster release, and I try to promote as hard

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Speaker 3: as it possibly can. So I think most people know

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Speaker 3: that animation is something I love very much, and I

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Speaker 3: you know, and I just find I find it very refreshing.

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Speaker 3: It's a really fine medium to tell stories. And since

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Speaker 3: I was a little boy, I've always thought it'd be

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Speaker 3: I'd be so cool to be an animated character, you know.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, So when I my first thing was I

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Speaker 3: partner up with Walt Disney to do this little preschooler

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Speaker 3: show on Saturday Mornings called Handy Manning Okay, And I

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Speaker 3: played Handy play Manny And it was a little handy

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Speaker 3: man with a team of talking tools and we just

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Speaker 3: went around Shee rock Hills, Riggs in anything that was

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Speaker 3: broken and along the way you appreciate culture. It was bilingual.

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Speaker 3: It was like the first of its kind, and it

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Speaker 3: did incredibly well. So and I just got hooked. I

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Speaker 3: got hooked at that, you know, coming to a sound

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Speaker 3: booth and like playing with the lines over and over

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Speaker 3: again and like being able to just do it right there,

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Speaker 3: like me, do it one more time, I'll do it

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Speaker 3: like this. I'm doing it like that, which was just

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Speaker 3: a very thing.

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Speaker 1: So it's more free than regular acting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because regular acting, you're crafting a visual interpretation of

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Speaker 3: something that was put on a script as a narrative

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Speaker 3: blueprint for or an audience to enjoy a certain genre,

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Speaker 3: a certain adventure, a certain you know journey, and even

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Speaker 3: on television, you know, you you have a certain time

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Speaker 3: and strain on like how you're going to tell this,

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Speaker 3: and every actor has a different contribution very amount second

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Speaker 3: boys over. But when you're performing live action, I mean

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Speaker 3: there's is just like a million more elements to the

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Speaker 3: art form that has to be engaged as a perfect storm.

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Speaker 3: When you're doing animation, you can be as imperfect as

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Speaker 3: you want to be, Like you can blove the line

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Speaker 3: eleven times. You can't enacting right. Enacting you got to

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Speaker 3: get it into takes right.

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Speaker 1: But and uh, all the expense, like all the different

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Speaker 1: expense that think the time is more critical and versus

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Speaker 1: just like being in a booth, it's like more Yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Think so, I think so I think it's a little

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Speaker 3: It's a little bit more liberating in the sense that

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Speaker 3: when you're doing you know, a feature, you're doing television,

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Speaker 3: you have that location for a certain amount of time.

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Speaker 3: They have computed that somehow this scene would take a

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Speaker 3: you know, about two and they move to the next,

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Speaker 3: the next one, so you can get everything in within

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Speaker 3: the ten hour or twelve hour block, and so that

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Speaker 3: so that becomes that. But for like example, when I

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Speaker 3: did you know, when I did in canto, as an example,

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Speaker 3: I would do the same line probably twenty five times,

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Speaker 3: with all kinds of different colors and momentums and volumes

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Speaker 3: and all that too, because sometimes you're not in the

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Speaker 3: same booth. Most of the times, you're not in the

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Speaker 3: same booth with the rest of the actors, so you're

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Speaker 3: kind of playing with yourself.

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Speaker 1: Oh interesting, I never have even thought about it, and

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Speaker 1: I was wondering, is it much more? What's the so

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Speaker 1: you get a movie, a normal movie or a normal

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Speaker 1: TV show versus an animated TV show, what's the time

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Speaker 1: commitment for you? What's the difference in the time commitment.

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Speaker 3: And it's magical when you do a voiceover, because when

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Speaker 3: you do a voiceover. You know, you commit to a

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Speaker 3: three hour session, a four hour session. Sometimes you can

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Speaker 3: do a six hour if you're like really busy, like

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Speaker 3: I sometimes I have to get in a lot of

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Speaker 3: and the hours that I got in, and then you

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Speaker 3: can do multiple episodes in one recording.

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Speaker 1: Oh you can bang it out, okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: In television it takes eight days to shoot one episode,

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Speaker 3: and it takes a full day to maybe shoot three scenes.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So if you did a movie and you got

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Speaker 1: paid five dollars for a movie, as you're in it,

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Speaker 1: it's you and you're an actor versus animation, you're the

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Speaker 1: star of both. How much if you got five dollars

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Speaker 1: on a regular movie, what would you get on an

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Speaker 1: animated movie? Like, how much difference is it in pay?

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Speaker 3: Probably about two dollars?

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Speaker 1: Oh interesting, Okay, at any level, even if your tom

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Speaker 1: cruise around for the most Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Okay for the most.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, an animation too, Like I mean it's a really

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Speaker 3: good I mean you even go down to like the

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Speaker 3: toy story of it, all right, I mean in the

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Speaker 3: in the second and third movie, maybe everybody gets a

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Speaker 3: bump and then maybe there is some box office performance

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Speaker 3: budget that goes into making it animation is like every

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Speaker 3: dollar counts, right.

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Speaker 1: Okay, interesting, I've never heard that or known that, so

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Speaker 1: obviously I know who you are, and I talk for

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Speaker 1: some reason, I've talked to a lot of people who

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Speaker 1: thing in their career that they're kind of always caring

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Speaker 1: whether they like it, they don't. They go back to it,

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Speaker 1: like whether it's Tory Spelling or you know, I just

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Speaker 1: talked to David Arquette, who like screams his and his

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Speaker 1: or me with the housewives, like having a podcast called Rewives.

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Speaker 1: So what do you think of that? I know, without

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Speaker 1: even asking you that that certainly hasn't been your most

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Speaker 1: lucrative opportunity, but it's the thing you're the most famous for,

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Speaker 1: right because you probably were making no money when you started,

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Speaker 1: and everyone thought you guys are millionaires and you were

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Speaker 1: just famous but not rich because I know what TV

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Speaker 1: paid back then, and you were kids.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I mean, so I guess we can reference

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Speaker 2: back to.

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Speaker 3: I would say the seventies show was obviously the big

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Speaker 3: one for many reasons because it was. It was like

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Speaker 3: the perfect blend of of innovation, you know, genre, you know,

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Speaker 3: bending and like we were breaking the mall of sitcom.

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Speaker 3: So it was going to work or it was going

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Speaker 3: to be a catastrophe. And also we were such an

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Speaker 3: interesting experiment because back then at prime time, you were

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Speaker 3: against Friends sign felt you know, spencing with me, you

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Speaker 3: know eventually Will and Grace. So we were like this,

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Speaker 3: you know, this young up and coming cast that was

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Speaker 3: somehow the found of voice within the eighteen to forty

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Speaker 3: but we were absolutely dominating the eighteen and forty nine

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Speaker 3: the eighteen forty nine is the like the holy grail

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Speaker 3: for works, right, because that's the advertising that se you know,

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Speaker 3: corporates are going after that audience. So if you can,

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Speaker 3: if you can, if you have the attention of that

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Speaker 3: of like the people that actually you know, invite as

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Speaker 3: many other people in the demo, then you have an

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Speaker 3: opportunity to grow and that show becomes very profitable and

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Speaker 3: therefore you could have an opportunity to ringegotiate and get

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Speaker 3: a little bit more for your money.

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Speaker 1: And I think so for the viewers, for the listeners.

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Speaker 1: People often in the press talk about the household overall

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Speaker 1: number because it sounds big. On The Housewives used to be, oh,

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Speaker 1: three million. Nobody cares about the household numbers really at

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Speaker 1: the network, they're like, oh, but in the demo, and

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Speaker 1: they even take it even tighter, like it's eighteen to

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Speaker 1: forty nine and then twenty five to forty five. And

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Speaker 1: you're getting women, so there could be some edgy audience

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Speaker 1: where you've got it, but they're not really purchasers. So

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Speaker 1: they want the purchasers of the household. And he's talking

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Speaker 1: about and even going deeper, Wilmer was on a show

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Speaker 1: that had the younger audience, So they're going to keep

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Speaker 1: them in the store to watch the other stuff that

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Speaker 1: they're selling them. So you want the young audience because

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Speaker 1: you're going to keep that audience for their whole lives

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Speaker 1: and also sell them other shit on the network.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, that's right, No, that's right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, thank you for clarifying that.

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Speaker 3: For the listeners, I mean, and furthermore, to just kind

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Speaker 3: of complement, would you've started with that then it becomes,

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Speaker 3: you know, a networks mandate to fulfill certain demos so

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Speaker 3: they can offer a different portfolio to all their advertisers, who,

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Speaker 3: by the way, not only funding the network and funding

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Speaker 3: the company, but also funding the content.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: So in many ways, it's like this interesting ecosystem that

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Speaker 3: has to work together.

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Speaker 2: Now it all got incredibly.

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Speaker 3: You know, complicated as soon as different economy skills that

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Speaker 3: are introducing. I mean, we were talking about the right

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Speaker 3: programming you know, SORE or as as entertainment that was

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Speaker 3: learning the same demos that were just as profit but

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Speaker 3: they you know, the budgets were not as ambitious when

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Speaker 3: it came to making this alternative programming. I'm talking about

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Speaker 3: So they were getting more for their buck because they

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Speaker 3: were investing less in the content. And as it started growing,

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Speaker 3: you know, we you know, it became a blend of

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Speaker 3: like how much can you offer to whatever reviewer you get?

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Speaker 3: And then the arrival of streaming right, which absolutely offered

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Speaker 3: everything else right because now streaming was spending as much

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Speaker 3: as they possibly could to just acquire a subscriber. It

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Speaker 3: had nothing to do with advertised there was no song.

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Speaker 1: It's a strange thing to like realize there's no ratings,

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Speaker 1: but there are downloads, and it's a strange construct for

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Speaker 1: thinking about the way they do their numbers. And do

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Speaker 1: you feel what has been.

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 1: There's a couple of questions I have for you. So,

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Speaker 1: first of all, your experience with streaming versus network television.

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Speaker 1: Are you equally satisfied? Is it equally as exciting or

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Speaker 1: it's not because it's like a bigger ocean.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's it's I'm so glad you asked that,

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Speaker 3: because I wear two hats, right as an entrepreneur and

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Speaker 3: a producer, and then as a performer and just an actor,

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Speaker 3: you know, and in many ways, and as a producer

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Speaker 3: start myself from scratch on both shows and able to

439
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,360
Speaker 3: put myself to this place. So I would say that

440
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 3: network TV is still iconically the place where could be

441
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 3: the most lucrative when it.

442
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 1: Comes to your business, because I hit it right both times.

443
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was very fortunate.

444
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 3: And then in between I had some great runs, right, Like,

445
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 3: I did a lot of different stuff and showed up

446
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 3: in different places, and you know, I did a Minority

447
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,120
Speaker 3: Report for one season on Fox, and then I did

448
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,119
Speaker 3: Awake on NBC for another season, and uh, and then

449
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 3: I did From Dustill Down with Robert Rodriguez and that

450
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 3: was like a great series for three years, and that

451
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 3: was also an interesting medium where Robert directed and all that.

452
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 3: So I was able to really dance with all these

453
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 3: different genres. And then, you know, and I was doing

454
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 3: some films and and and and independent films that really

455
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 3: were allowing to show the industry that I could do

456
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:52,880
Speaker 3: more than what they've ever you know.

457
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 2: Assumed from the beginning.

458
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 3: So a lot of chapters, I had to really reinvent

459
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 3: myself for the opportunity that was coming next. And now

460
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 3: I'm staying at a place where I'm blessed that my

461
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 3: fans and my supporters have followed me at every job,

462
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 3: because that's also very important for now Market City before

463
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,120
Speaker 3: a studio to be like, oh this is you can

464
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 3: bet on this horse if you're going to put them

465
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,679
Speaker 3: on the show, you know. And with NCIS there was

466
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 3: a lot of crazy changes, and I was able to

467
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 3: really create a great partnership with the writers and the

468
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 3: showrunners and most importantly, you know, my cast, to create

469
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:29,919
Speaker 3: a different dynamic for a show that's been on for

470
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 3: twenty years. You know. So now the show is still

471
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 3: number one, It is still amazing.

472
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 1: It's amazing, and you never had to you never had

473
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 1: to be type cast or do a rint that you

474
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 1: were the seventies show kid. You sort of made great

475
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 1: choices to like be able to be both, which many

476
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: people are still stuck in what they were and people

477
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,120
Speaker 1: don't see them differently. So I feel like I don't

478
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 1: want to say you were lucky, because I don't think

479
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: you were. I think it was proactive. It sounds like

480
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 1: you're very intentional. But I think that's definitely a feat

481
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 1: where you can really enjoy the fact you can enjoy

482
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 1: the campiness of that seventies show because it doesn't define

483
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 1: you and it's not all that anyone's ever seen you as,

484
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 1: which I think is really nice, you know, like thank.

485
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: You, no, thank you.

486
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 3: I actually to your point, and we're going to really

487
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 3: kind of break it down. I got to say I

488
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 3: knew because I ripped the page from a lot of

489
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,120
Speaker 3: my colleagues and a lot of friends who played similar

490
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:26,239
Speaker 3: characters like mine in the eighties and the nineties, and

491
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 3: I realized that if I was going to have a

492
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 3: shot at actually making this a career after that seventy show,

493
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 3: I knew that I had to start the reinvention two

494
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 3: to three years before I ended that. So every summer

495
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 3: I would do a movie every summer, I would do

496
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 3: something else chess. Yeah, yeah, because I knew that it

497
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 3: wasn't about everything is for the fans, They'll get me wrong,

498
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,640
Speaker 3: But in that moment, it was about the industry understanding

499
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 3: that there was life seven, show ninety name than that, right,

500
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 3: you know what?

501
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: I did the same thing on Housewives, and Housewives is

502
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: a harder rint to do. You need you need like

503
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 1: a bucket of alcohol to rinse off the housewives. But

504
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: I was starting that rint real soon second season.

505
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 3: What was your what was your what? What was the

506
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 3: when did you see the writing on the wall that

507
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 3: You're like, hmm, I got to really jump off and

508
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 3: understand the platform that I'm at and what it gives

509
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 3: me an uh signal and frequency, and how I can

510
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 3: use that and motivate into the next chapter of my life.

511
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 2: When was that moment?

512
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 1: Well, I was obviously much older than you. I was

513
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 1: in my late thirties and I was broke, so I

514
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 1: you know, didn't when I started. I didn't have a

515
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: lot of options, but I could. I've never made a

516
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: big brand plan in my life, but I'm always playing chess.

517
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 1: It's the way my mind works like that. Pieces moves

518
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: to that piece, and that's you know, and you're aware

519
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 1: of the pieces, but you're also aware of the board.

520
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: So when I was on Housewives very quickly, like in

521
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 1: the first season, second season, I was thinking to myself,

522
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 1: like almost secreting, and I'm going to get a spinoff.

523
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: I don't know why I thought it, just like I

524
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,959
Speaker 1: was thinking about a spinoff already and pushing that. And

525
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: then also, you're in a bucket with a bunch of

526
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 1: different people and they're all women, and we're getting similar

527
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: but different opportunities. And when I became breakout and I

528
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 1: was getting quote unquote better opportunities down to something dumb

529
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: from a showroom wanted me to come in for free

530
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: clothes to hosting the Today Show. I was keeping my

531
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: stuff close to the vest. I was in my own lane.

532
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 1: I was trying not to overshare what I was doing

533
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 1: because I saw that being a problem. I saw women

534
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: were getting jealous. And when I got to the Today

535
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: Show to host it, they said, oh, this cast member

536
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 1: of yours said why not me, I'm better than her.

537
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: I'd be like I saw it was cutthroat, and so

538
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: I read and I wrote this in my book. I

539
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: was in my own lane. And by the way, it

540
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 1: wasn't always popular. I was gay keeping certain things. I

541
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: wasn't telling everybody everything I was doing and where I

542
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: was going because guess what, I was running my own game.

543
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: I'm not your family, Okay, I was running my own game. Yeah,

544
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: I was running my own game early. And it's not

545
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: show friends, it's show business. And I was not I

546
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: never have screwed anybody over, but I was running my

547
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 1: own game. It was my rodeo, and I was going

548
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: to the end zone. So and the decisions always changed.

549
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: And I wasn't showing up like all housewives want to

550
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: show up everywhere together and five women together. I wasn't

551
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: showing up on these red carpet events of four other women.

552
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 1: If I had to go, I would go. But even

553
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: when I came back to the housewives for all that

554
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: money the second time around, I definitely was separating. I

555
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: wasn't doing press together. I didn't want to be clumped in. Sorry,

556
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: not sorry, just what I didn't want to do.

557
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 2: You know, That's that's the secret, sauce.

558
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 3: I mean, look, if there's one thing that people could

559
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 3: walk away with and for this specific section of where

560
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 3: conversation is don't tell anyone anything you're dreaming about.

561
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: I don't connect dots. It's my number one role. I

562
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 1: do not connect dots about anything.

563
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 2: Exactly what I was going to say.

564
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: I don't say where I had.

565
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 3: Lun like somebody hasn't figured it out, and then you

566
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 3: say something that it finally plays for them, and then

567
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 3: that dream has now been blue egg because somebody will

568
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 3: do whatever they take to get it from you.

569
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:08,479
Speaker 1: Yep, And even something stupid like we're oh, I had

570
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: lunch there today. Give some extra piece of information to

571
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: somebody I don't know, Oh, or I know Jen and

572
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: she knows your dad, and then some weird thing comes

573
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: out about someone's cheating about like I just don't. I

574
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 1: don't play games like I tell my best friends everybody everything.

575
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: But that's it. Like the rest is like, I don't

576
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: tell anybody anything. I am private to a fault. I

577
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: don't care. That's just yeah.

578
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 2: And you know what sad.

579
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 3: You know, you find that you can build real industry

580
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 3: relationships and friendships when people don't know what you're up to.

581
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: That and when they know you'll never tell anybody anything,

582
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: they tell you. I'm a vault. That's a big one too, exactly.

583
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 3: That's big good royalty and respecting this thing is really

584
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 3: really rare, you know. And I had to start years

585
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 3: before I finished seventy shows. So every year I would

586
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 3: do a different type of independent movie that only the

587
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 3: industry would see.

588
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 2: I would go to can Film Festival with a movie.

589
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 3: I would go to uh Sun Dance Film with the movie,

590
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 3: and the industry we're seeing me in different carriacters, exactly.

591
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: Getting it wasn't about the money, it was about the

592
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: street cred. I got the same thing with my brand

593
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: Skinny Girl deal Forbes cover was like, boom, now we

594
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: have street cred. Now we are separated. We could do

595
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: our own thing. We're not clumped in you know. Yeahul,

596
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: but you went back in because you did went on Netflix.

597
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: And I went back in because I went back and

598
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: the money was too good, and that, you know, it

599
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: required another navigation of not just rinsing, but being from

600
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: a different perspective. It's just it's wild. You have to

601
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: like think about those things. Sometimes going backwards is going forward.

602
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: Sometimes you have financial reason. It's very very interesting. And

603
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: you've also you know, you're not obviously not a kid,

604
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: and now you're an activist and you're charitable, and you

605
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: really are a voice in the Latino community. So like

606
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: you have, you have a lot of personal responsibility that

607
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: you take on, that you put on yourself to message

608
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: things like this for your daughter about the fact that

609
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: you came to this country did not speak English. Is

610
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: that true.

611
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know how to even know how to

612
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 2: say hi.

613
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 3: It's pretty bad. I didn't really realize, uh one, the responsibility,

614
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 3: but to the opportunity to really expand on it when

615
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 3: I was doing seventy show. In fact, I think most

616
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 3: people didn't even know I was Latino. They thought I

617
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 3: was Indiana Ers or or some other ethnicity, you know.

618
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 3: So in many ways, I feel like you played to

619
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 3: my advantage in where I was able to create a

620
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 3: character that was so ambiguous that kind of I welcome

621
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 3: most you know, we're just seeing how funny the character

622
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 3: was and the shenanigans they will get into, and that

623
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 3: became almost universal and colorless, and that really helped. So

624
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 3: then then when I started hearing young peop people say hey,

625
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 3: you know, not until I saw you in television, I

626
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 3: saw myself, which it started like in the early two thousands,

627
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 3: I was like, oh wait, what's going on.

628
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: You know, Ah, you didn't know you were going to

629
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: be the representation of anything.

630
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 4: You just know.

631
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 2: I was just trying to keep the light on.

632
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I just got to the country four years ago,

633
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 3: five years ago, seventy show, which.

634
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: Is crazy, by the way, how you came to this

635
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: country to be like, explain that. How old are you?

636
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: So I was.

637
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 3: I was about to turn fourteen, So I was thirteen

638
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 3: years old, and I came to the United States in

639
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety three. I was born in Miami because my

640
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 3: mother and my father had married in Miami and then

641
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 3: back in the early eighties. I was born in nineteen eighties,

642
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 3: so that around that time, the dollar in a boliad,

643
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 3: which from Venezuela, were almost one in one because of

644
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 3: you know, oil and all of that stuff happening in

645
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 3: Latin America, specifically with Venezuela. So my parents kind of

646
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 3: moved back to Venezuela and we started working in the

647
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 3: agriculture industry. So my mom and my dad met in Miami,

648
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 3: had me in Maryland, my sister, and then we decided

649
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 3: to move back to Venezuela, and so we were in

650
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 3: Venezuela for about ten years. And then there was a

651
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 3: nationally there was a military coup on the government and

652
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 3: that didn't succeed with a young general by the name

653
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 3: of Google Chavis and didn't succeed. So we you know,

654
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 3: so my dad saw the writing on the wall now

655
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 3: and he was just like, we probably need to get back,

656
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 3: as this is not a good signal, you know.

657
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 2: And and he was very smart.

658
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 3: He sold most of the stuff we had in Venezuela,

659
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 3: minus our little hut, a little house in the little

660
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 3: town that we lived in. And then we came back

661
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 3: to the United States and I came back to Miami,

662
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 3: and none of us don't want to speak English, you know.

663
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 3: My dad's a little bit, but my mom still doesn't

664
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 3: speak English because she was like dedicated to raising children,

665
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 3: you know. And then we came to Los angelest And

666
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 3: the way it all happened was I was always singing,

667
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 3: dancing and acting since I was six years old in

668
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 3: Venezuela because we lived in such a small little town,

669
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 3: there was nothing to do. There was one movie theater

670
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 3: and they only played and they played a robo couple

671
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 3: year round, you know.

672
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 2: So so literally like that was like my own inspiration.

673
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 3: But when I came to thes abuelans, I decided, because

674
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 3: I didn't know how to speak English, I decided that

675
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 3: I would go back to theater and singing and dancing

676
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 3: because it was going to force me to read. It

677
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 3: was gonna force me to speak out loud and fake

678
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 3: conversations on stage that I didn't have the courage of

679
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 3: having outside of the stage. So then the more I

680
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 3: did theater, the more I feel in love with it.

681
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 3: And then more I came hearing and you should give

682
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 3: it a try, and you're pretty good, funny, you're pretty silly,

683
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh okay, and I had a

684
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 3: crazy accent. So it's a perfect storm of things. I

685
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 3: was showcased a couple of a couple of interacting classes

686
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 3: and I got representation. This teacher is a last boyd

687
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 3: you know, who decided to teach me for free because

688
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 3: I couldn't afford the classes. She basically said, I think

689
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 3: you're ready to adition for commercials and stuff, and and

690
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 3: she introduced me to an agent. He said, we're not

691
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 3: gonna represent you. We're going to send you out and

692
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 3: see what feedback we get.

693
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: Hip hop, right, yeah, that's right.

694
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then.

695
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 3: Basically they will send me out. They will get this

696
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 3: amazing feedback. He's hilarious, such an interesting take for the

697
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 3: stuff that we give him.

698
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 4: Wow. You know.

699
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 3: So ultimately, the more I auditioned, and more of the

700
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 3: best feedback I got, and then they kept saying, you know,

701
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 3: but he has an accent. Can he lose his accent?

702
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,959
Speaker 3: Because people don't have accents on television. Ah, they wanted

703
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 3: me to lose my accent. They wanted me to change

704
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 3: my name to something that sounding more Latino than we

705
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,720
Speaker 3: met at Lama because they thought that doesn't sound Latino

706
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 3: because there typically has to be Lopez.

707
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 4: You know.

708
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 2: So it was a whole thing, but I found.

709
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 3: It, and then they kept sending me out, and then

710
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 3: one day auditioned for this pilot called Teenage Wasteland. I

711
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 3: audition four times and I, you know, I get the

712
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 3: contract and you'll you'll you'll like this part. I got

713
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 3: the contract and I'm in this last audition with my dad.

714
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 3: We don't have the part yet, but to make your

715
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 3: sound case. And the contract says that I was going

716
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 3: to make fifteen thousand dollars for the pilot the first episode.

717
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 3: It's not bad for back then, No, no, no, I

718
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 3: mean talking that was to nineteen ninety eight.

719
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I made and fifty dollars the whole first season

720
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: of Houseise.

721
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, by the way for alternative for reality.

722
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 3: That was like good money, you know.

723
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 1: What I mean, the whole season.

724
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 3: Oh, the whole season, the whole season.

725
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: But I carved. I wrote down you can't take a

726
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: piece of my business, which became the Bethany clause, which

727
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: is like a famous thing for reality people. So I

728
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: didn't know because I was being smart. I was like you,

729
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I spoke English, but I didn't know a

730
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: damn thing and I was reading this thing and I

731
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: was just trying to focus. So what happened? So you're

732
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: looking at the contract.

733
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 2: Oh no, I love that you offer that.

734
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 3: Because Danny swayed for reality, really the other became a thing,

735
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 3: you know, yes, but yeah, So the fifteen thousand dollars

736
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 3: were the first episode and ten thousand dollars per episode

737
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 3: if he went to Wow. Now I was eight seventeen,

738
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 3: about to turn eighteen years old. Okay, we have just

739
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 3: gone to America maybe four years prior to that, and

740
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 3: my first job was to just learn how to speak English.

741
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 2: I was a boy.

742
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 3: I was a bus boy at a restaurant called Catholic

743
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 3: Visue and Studio City and senior at Mianitaria, and you know,

744
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 3: and my uncle used to was to work there, and

745
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 3: then he got me a little job there. I was like,

746
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 3: you know, the runner of dishes and stuff. And I

747
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 3: was auditioning photo commercials here and there, but not getting much,

748
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 3: you know. So so finally, you know, after a couple

749
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 3: of little gigs that got me the money to pay

750
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 3: for the union and became a screen Actor's Skill member.

751
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 3: I was able to audition for the pilot so fast,

752
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 3: fast struck into the pilot edition.

753
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 4: You know.

754
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:41,919
Speaker 2: I told my dad that, imagine, if.

755
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 3: You get if I get this apartment, that's like me

756
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 3: if you get it very good, if you don't get

757
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 3: it very good.

758
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: And I was like, okay, very good.

759
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 3: And I went in and auditioned my ass off and

760
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 3: I went home, and you know, this is a really

761
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 3: tough time for my family. We were laid in the

762
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 3: rank for you know, a couple of months, and my

763
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 3: dad was like working over time, trying to like not

764
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 3: even break even. And we were just in a situation

765
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 3: where were eating dinner every other night. And by the way,

766
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 3: we weren't sad about it. It was like it was

767
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 3: just what you know, it's like the immigrant way. You

768
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 3: come here it and you know, we eat one day,

769
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 3: we eat the next day or not. You know, it

770
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 3: doesn't mean until you you get it together, because because

771
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 3: we always know that you put in enough hours, you

772
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 3: will get it together, you know. So for us, it

773
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 3: was mathematical. It was nothing emotional. It wasn't boohoo. Latinos

774
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 3: don't complain about you know. Yeah, it's it's like we

775
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 3: got to make money.

776
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 2: That's so it is, you know.

777
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 3: So we were doing pretty not good. And I told

778
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 3: my dad Maine if I get it. Then we got

779
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 3: home and I get a phone call from what my

780
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 3: agent who now became my agent, and says, hey, they

781
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 3: want you to come back tomorrow. And I said, okay, yeah,

782
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 3: they want you to come back tomorrow and the day after.

783
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: That and the day after and I've never had done

784
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 1: to cry and I and I.

785
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 3: Was like what and my mom and you know the

786
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 3: days where you pick up the phone and listen to

787
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 3: the other line, you know, like everybody in the lines,

788
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 3: and and everyone starts screaming because they understood that my

789
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 3: face man, that I got it, and we were just like,

790
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 3: if even if the show doesn't go fifteen thousand dollars,

791
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 3: we can pay the rent. We don't have to go

792
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 3: to ninety nine cents stores. We can go to the

793
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 3: Ralphs like you know. It was this conversation. We're like,

794
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 3: oh my god, like, oh my god, I have to fire,

795
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 3: you know. And I and that was one of the

796
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 3: most iconic moments in my life when I remember looking

797
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 3: outside the window in like que it like a movie,

798
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 3: saw an American flag.

799
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 2: From the neighbor.

800
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I have chilled right now.

801
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 3: And I literally said to myself, that's what this is.

802
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 3: That's what this country is. It's this is what it

803
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 3: was built for. So Dreams had a show, I'd be impossible.

804
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 3: So when that happened, I didn't, you know, I wasn't

805
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 3: thinking magazine's interviews.

806
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 4: Fam.

807
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 2: I was thinking, like, oh my god, they're gonna.

808
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 3: Pay me for acting this badness. And then I went

809
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 3: and then I shot the show. Before I even shot

810
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 3: the show, I looked in the mirror and I said

811
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 3: to myself, anything and everything that comes out of my

812
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 3: mouth will be the most memorable, the funniest. And I said,

813
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 3: I am going to relentlessly be the best at this character.

814
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 3: And I just went in there and I just my

815
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 3: first line was ridiculous on the seventies show. And I

816
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,479
Speaker 3: remember the moment when they say action and my first

817
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 3: line was about to happen, and I say, in my way,

818
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 3: I rarely do the voice, but I'm gonna do it

819
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 3: here for you. But I literally said, I mean I

820
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 3: said this right because I am not doing English.

821
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: But she has tremendo. Yes, And the audience exploded.

822
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 3: My co stars like almost bro character and like it

823
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 3: was this moment where the magical moment of hearing the audience,

824
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 3: I just made them laugh. It seems like a check.

825
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 3: I feel like if I keeping this trajectory, I'm not

826
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 3: getting fired. And then I decided I'm going to be

827
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 3: the best. I'm going to be the best at what

828
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 3: I do. And I became a student of every role

829
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 3: on the set. You know, every department had every department

830
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 3: from directors right, and I taught myself to making production.

831
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 3: I taught myself how i've creatively developed something because the

832
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 3: producers Marcy Carcy and Tom Warner were so beautiful to

833
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 3: open the door to teach me stuff. And I took

834
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 3: it from there, but you know, that year I would

835
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 3: able to.

836
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:52,919
Speaker 2: Pay off our debt.

837
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 3: And then I took my mom to Ralphs and then

838
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 3: you know, and then my dad was letting me borrow

839
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 3: the family car, which was a four TOURUS station wagon

840
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 3: with the hood that was a different color of the car.

841
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 3: And then I used to put the cassette adapter for

842
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 3: the CD rum and that's why I listened to music

843
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 3: on the way to work. And then I finally was like,

844
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 3: my dad's like, you should buy yourself a car, and

845
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 3: I went and bought a ninety nine Mercury Cougar. It

846
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 3: was like briand new relaunch of the model, and I

847
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 3: was like very cool cloth seats and fake wood detail,

848
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 3: and I was like this thing is. And people used

849
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 3: to say, is this a Jaguar and I used to say,

850
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 3: yes it is, because it has you know, the cougar emblem.

851
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: Yes, it's a coug war. It's a coug War.

852
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 4: Wait.

853
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 1: I've never needed I feel like Ellen, I've never needed

854
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 1: tissues on the set here because it's a set, it's

855
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: my couch. But I'm just saying like you got me,

856
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: like the way you first of all that just the story,

857
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: but the way you told the story, and I was

858
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: sitting here like, and you know, I'm thankful to you

859
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: for you know, giving me that gift, like you just

860
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: took like you just took me there where I was

861
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: like in your house and like feeling that sort of

862
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: pride and desperation at the same time, but like not

863
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: desperate because you just were still happy. I don't know,

864
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: there was something about the way you told that story

865
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: that you brought me to tears, would the chills because

866
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: it's I can't and it's so amazing how you literally

867
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: remember it from a granular, porous perspective.

868
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 3: I can't forget it, you know, and so much about

869
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 3: those first couple of years of my career.

870
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 4: You know.

871
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 3: I used to described it the other day like this

872
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 3: to a friend. It was like I never give my

873
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 3: back to the room. Even when I exited the room,

874
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 3: I was bowing thank you, you know, and I would

875
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 3: just exit the door. I was so grateful somebody had

876
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 3: believed that I could do it. Wow, because if you

877
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 3: were to really really visualize the little town that I

878
00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 3: that I grew up in, and you know, watching I

879
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 3: Love Lucy and watching Chips and watching you know, Charlie's

880
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 3: angels and like seeing that and growing, you know, growing

881
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 3: in this household and thinking to myself, one day, I'm

882
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 3: going to do that.

883
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 2: And you know, it's so interesting.

884
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 3: When we first came to America, my dad took us

885
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 3: to Hollywood Boulevard and so I don't remember because we

886
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 3: couldn't see instead of somebody was getting their star on

887
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 3: the Walk of Fame, and I looked to my dad

888
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 3: and I said, Dad, one day, one day, I'm gonna

889
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 3: have a star on the Walk of Fame. And you know,

890
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 3: it still hasn't happened, but I know it's possible. And

891
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 3: you know, and even the bigger promise that even I

892
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 3: forgot to mention in the beginning, you know, maybe about

893
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 3: four to five months before of that audition, my dad's

894
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 3: car gets stolen and he gets stolen from the front

895
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 3: of the house. And if you know, in Los Angeles,

896
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 3: the car is the lifeline to all of it. Like

897
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 3: I needed that car because he was going from mechanics

898
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 3: shep to mechanic SHEP bring in and they would pay

899
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 3: him to transport parts. And he had a for sale

900
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 3: sign on the window and he would drop it with

901
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 3: a for sale sign in the window while he was

902
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 3: hustling with the car until the car sold for a.

903
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 2: Little bit more than he bought it for.

904
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 3: Then he bought another car, put another for sale sign,

905
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 3: and then you know, sell it off until the car

906
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 3: get a little nicer, a little nicer, and then you

907
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 3: can make a little bit more cash while still doing

908
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 3: and then that car gets stolen. Wow. And that was

909
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 3: the first time I saw my dad, you know, with

910
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 3: a with a with an energy of desperation, and hearing

911
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 3: his voice changed unlike I've ever heard it in my

912
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 3: whole life. Then that moment he had like almost midnight,

913
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 3: when he heard the car take off, and he looked

914
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 3: at the window and he was just gone. I looked

915
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 3: at my day and say, Dad, don't worry because I'm

916
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 3: gonna be this and this before seven show, I was like,

917
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be this successful actor and I'm gonna make

918
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 3: all this money and I'm gonna have restaurants and have

919
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 3: this and we're gonna never gonna this bounce house, and

920
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 3: so don't worry about this. And my dad looked at

921
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 3: me and I was was thirteen, I was I think

922
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 3: I was, Yeah, I was about thirteen, No, No, sorry,

923
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 3: I was I was about six fifteen years old or

924
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 3: something like that, and I said to my dad, No,

925
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 3: it was closer to Yeah, I think it was closer

926
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 3: to I was probably about fifteen or so. It wasn't

927
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 3: month it was. I was fifteen years old. And I

928
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 3: said to my dad, Papa, don't worry, blah blah blah blah,

929
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 3: and you're never gonna need to work again, and you know,

930
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 3: I'm going to take it. And my dad looked to me,

931
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 3: and my mom was she was still pacing around. He goes, okay, me, Oh,

932
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 3: that's very good.

933
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 2: Oh then, and I.

934
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 3: Felt like he had given me permission to go ahead

935
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 3: and do it.

936
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: That's unbelievable. And they set you up to do it

937
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: with the work ethic and that you were a team

938
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: and getting on the phone and it was like a

939
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 1: win for everyone. It's outrageous. Wow. So was that your

940
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: rose of your whole career?

941
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 4: Yeah?

942
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 3: That was the lift off, you know, that was the liftop.

943
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 3: I think the show wasn't ever a clear hit until

944
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 3: probably the end of season two beginning of season three.

945
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 3: We were like the step childs of television. Like nobody

946
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 3: wanted to acknowledge that we were good.

947
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 2: Nobody.

948
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like it was like it was like your you know,

949
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 3: we weren't even critically acclaimed. They were like what is

950
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 3: this right? But the audiences discovered us, you know, and

951
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 3: they switched our times lib multiple times.

952
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 4: You know.

953
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 3: We started up between the Simpsons and the X Files

954
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 3: and Sunday nights and that was like the night of television,

955
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 3: and they switched us around. And then finally, you know,

956
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 3: the show found an audience. And then you know, it's

957
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 3: so funny. Nobody could recognize me in real life, right

958
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 3: Like I would be standing next to Ashton and and

959
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 3: people would be like, hey, say say.

960
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 2: A fest for me, and I'd be like hi.

961
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 3: You know, people wouldn't recognize it because my character spoke

962
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 3: and carry themselves so different, So they just thought a person,

963
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 3: that thing was a real thing that was alive.

964
00:46:59,360 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 4: You know.

965
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 3: That was that was the beginning of that And and

966
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 3: you know, I gave a lot of things and a

967
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 3: lot of and I'm very grateful to my agents. Eventually,

968
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 3: when I I went through h I changed my agents,

969
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 3: standed up at UTA and I had Shaney Rose's Wide

970
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 3: and she put together a beautiful team with Tracy Jacobs

971
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 3: and and the Nancy Gates and Jeff Senelsan and at

972
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 3: the time, Jason Shapiro and and a few more than

973
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 3: I'm for sure forgetting. And I'm sorry because this was

974
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 3: not a credit for Goal, but a group of individuals

975
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 3: that saw me beyond fest and so every summer that

976
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 3: would fight to get me in the room, and nobody

977
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 3: wanted to meet in the room.

978
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet you were totally typecast. Yeah wow, what

979
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: an amazing story. And now you're developing Zora with you

980
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 1: starring and producing, not directing or producing.

981
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I producing it. And uh, I've even started

982
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 3: at Sorrow for Walt Disney, which is you know, I mean,

983
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 3: I magine I could theream of a lifetime, right, Like

984
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 3: the only hero the Latino community really has that iconically,

985
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 3: a character that showed us as like a romantic and

986
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 3: smart and clevered and.

987
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: Just funny and funny and so funny is great for

988
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: you because it's like you get to be legitimate and

989
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: it is a hero and it's respected brand but funny

990
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: and like a little whacky, like you could have your

991
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: own take on that. As the first thing I was thinking, like,

992
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: you know, it's amazing, what a great I would never

993
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 1: thought of that, but like, what a great fit. How exciting.

994
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 3: It's really exciting, and I think to your point, it

995
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 3: is a role that finally care really tap into all

996
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 3: my weapons.

997
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: Yes, marries everything at the same time. It's legit, it's

998
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: funny and stupid, it's wacky, it's like, you know, it's respect,

999
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: it's like a kid hero, it's Latino. Yeah, it kind

1000
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: of checks all the boxes.

1001
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.

1002
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 3: And honestly this I went and looked for the titles.

1003
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 4: You know.

1004
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 3: I think it's the more that my my production company,

1005
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 3: and I'm really greatful to God in the industry and

1006
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 3: my fans. But the production company, you know, has evolved

1007
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 3: into something else. It's not a pot deal anymore. It's

1008
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 3: a multi department, multi layered what it's called w B Entertainment. Okay,

1009
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about changing the name of some point because

1010
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 3: I'm kind of becoming allergic to my name in the title.

1011
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 3: But but I think at the time it made sense

1012
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 3: because that was what they wanted to buy. It was

1013
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 3: product from me, you know. But but I think me

1014
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 3: me Hoo Productions Productions.

1015
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's okay, Hope Productions.

1016
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,399
Speaker 3: That's very funny. That's actually Hope Productions. Yeah.

1017
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:41,919
Speaker 1: But will never forget it. It's kind of cute.

1018
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 4: I like it.

1019
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 3: It just made you know what, I'm seriously and I'm

1020
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 3: not even joking.

1021
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: I believe you.

1022
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 3: I like it.

1023
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: It's just like, yeah, I like it because it also

1024
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: has a double entendre of like me, Hollywood, Like there's

1025
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:55,760
Speaker 1: like layers, you know what I meant.

1026
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 2: Totally Yeah makes sense.

1027
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's good.

1028
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 1: Yeah. But yeah.

1029
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 3: So the production company started really and I've been trying

1030
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 3: to infuse the sense of less, dream bigger in our company.

1031
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 3: And now we have had the opportunity to develop tons

1032
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 3: of different things for different studios and I and now

1033
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 3: I have a first look at OSCBS Studios, which has

1034
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 3: been a great home. I have great partners, and netflixs

1035
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 3: have great partners of Walt Disney really empower me to

1036
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 3: uplift and expand on the idea that our stories, no

1037
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 3: matter what color we're can actually transcend culture and can

1038
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 3: invite most while still being authentic and rooted into who

1039
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 3: we really are and what we've been in America, without

1040
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 3: you know, any political agenda, mostly going back to the

1041
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 3: fundamentals of entertainment. We just want to entertain people. We

1042
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 3: want people to walk away feeling awesome. And we want

1043
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 3: them to feel proud of who they are, you know,

1044
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 3: no matter what color you are. And then the fact

1045
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 3: that I'm able to you know, get in front of

1046
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 3: the camera some of the business and also a joy

1047
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 3: because I can really uh shape tonally who we are

1048
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 3: culturally in America. And you know, there's a lot of

1049
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 3: rebuilding that we have to do. For image, a lot

1050
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:14,280
Speaker 3: of stuff has been deleted from the books to history.

1051
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 3: I mean, you're also see in the banning of a

1052
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 3: lot of books and and so a lot of this

1053
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 3: conversation really fires me up to do content that's kind

1054
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 3: of live forever that you can't just get take off

1055
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 3: the shelf and uh.

1056
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 2: And that's I think that's the next phase.

1057
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 3: Of our culture, to be able to reintroduce us as

1058
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 3: who we really are uh and told by us uh.

1059
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 2: And so so we're producing all kinds of different things.

1060
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 3: We have an alternative department, you know, we do alternative

1061
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:47,240
Speaker 3: programming in the sense of uh you know, uh DOCU

1062
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 3: follows documentaries and game shows and stuff. And then we

1063
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,760
Speaker 3: have a scripted department where we do drama in comedy together.

1064
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 3: We'll also double an animation and then we uh. Then

1065
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 3: we also have a podcast department. I became partners with

1066
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 3: Ihearts on a network, So we now own a network

1067
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 3: called Michael Tuda Podcast Network, which you know, is available

1068
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 3: everywhere that you get your podcast, And in that we're

1069
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 3: curating some grave voices and and and really kind of

1070
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 3: inviting the community to discover and adapt to podcasting as is.

1071
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 3: They are a little late adapters to podcasts, you know,

1072
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 3: so we're excited to kind of pioneering that. But we're

1073
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 3: also making podcasting uh then not only is for them,

1074
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 3: but it's for everyone. So we're really hoping that we

1075
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 3: can combine and it's being phenomenal already. So we have production,

1076
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 3: we have developed production and distribution through iHeart uh and

1077
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 3: we have a pipeline of amazing content that we're going

1078
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 3: to do there uh and you know, and and so on.

1079
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 3: And then I have a management company, co Allied Management,

1080
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 3: which represents Latin American writer, producers and directors from Central

1081
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 3: and South America, and.

1082
00:52:58,080 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 2: We bridge the gap.

1083
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 3: We need more hands on deck because there's a lot

1084
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 3: of aboundance and Latino stories that are being developed, but

1085
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,720
Speaker 3: we're not enough people to run it, not enough direct

1086
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 3: so we build a very premium product a management company

1087
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 3: do to really curate these voices and really introduce them

1088
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 3: to Hollywood and expand on that. And it's been a joy,

1089
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 3: I mean, it's and a joy to see this later projects.

1090
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 3: And that's besides, like you mentioned, the activism, which has

1091
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 3: been also another great jour in my life to partner

1092
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 3: up with some great organizations that do really great stuff

1093
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 3: that are all just in line with everything we're producing.

1094
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: It's amazing. And the two things that really jump off

1095
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 1: the page for me is is really the work like

1096
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 1: the work ethic like that. The way you've had good

1097
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: connect this is the same with me. I mean, I

1098
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: am You're probably to other people have a reputation of

1099
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: being kinder and jetler, like I have a tough reputation,

1100
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: but I am tough but fair. Like everybody knows that

1101
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: it's not always pleasant to do a deal with me,

1102
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: but that I'm always fair like I that's just who

1103
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: I'm known as. And I so I have good relationships

1104
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: with the first book I ever did with you know,

1105
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: even with Bravo, with everyone, and I just have noticed

1106
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: that and people have to really listen and understand that

1107
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: the relationship the minute you start the clock is running

1108
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: like it's the same relationships then as they are now.

1109
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 1: You see the same people up here, same people on

1110
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: the way down, Like it's just all these relationships that

1111
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: connect like a web. And how you know, so many

1112
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: times will someone come to me and say, well, we

1113
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 1: should we work with that person, and I'll have had

1114
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: an unpleasant experience to them. I'll be like, absolutely not.

1115
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 2: That kind of stuff.

1116
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: And you have to do you know, yep, you gotta

1117
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: be good the whole way through, like do it well

1118
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: or don't do it at all. So I just noticed

1119
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: that you have really a made really good choices, b

1120
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: just have an incredible work ethic, but have nurtured all

1121
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: these relationships and are all coming together into one because

1122
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 1: you're doing so many different things in the same pot now.

1123
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 1: And then that you're like, you've curated because we're getting older.

1124
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,800
Speaker 1: You're younger than I am, but we're older. You curate

1125
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: the career career you want And it sounds ridiculous, but

1126
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: you saying that you're playing Zoro, which is a convergence

1127
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 1: of all these things, is funny. Like David Arquette, who's

1128
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: made a lot of money on different businesses, he's not

1129
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: just the scream guy and he plays like and you know,

1130
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: he's like a little chill and like that, so you

1131
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: think you think he's like, you know not, you know,

1132
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: really like this business guy. And he owns the rights

1133
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: to Bozo like you you own the rights to Zorro.

1134
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: Like it's a convergence of him being funny and being

1135
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: wacky and he's got this rights to this real entity

1136
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: of Bozo the clown. And I'm thinking of you as Zoro.

1137
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: So I'm seeing these people. We're all like, you're all

1138
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: like auditioning for all this time for like when you

1139
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 1: get in your forties and fifties and like now it's

1140
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: not the dress. R get to have the life you

1141
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: want because of all these things you've done and this

1142
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 1: and I hate to sound like a Karen, but much

1143
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: of the younger generation wants it now and they want

1144
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,439
Speaker 1: to know right now. And it's like, you know, stir

1145
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 1: the pot, like just like let the butter melt. It's

1146
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: all come. You just got to handle it right and

1147
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: like nurture it and it comes together now. So that's

1148
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: what I'm getting from you. And it's amazing.

1149
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's a difference between making a full

1150
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,800
Speaker 3: dinner versus a sandwich right, like, and which is a

1151
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 3: snap fast food.

1152
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 1: You're not satisfied, it's just you're eating to eat. Yeah,

1153
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 1: you've got like a yeah. I agree. So you're amazing,

1154
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: really good.

1155
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 3: I appreciate that so much and it means a lot.

1156
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,320
Speaker 3: And honestly, I was very excited to talk to you

1157
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 3: for all the very same reasons. I really do respect, uh,

1158
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 3: you know, the choices, the the you know, the force

1159
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 3: side to all of these different aspects to your to

1160
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 3: your life, into your career, because it really it really

1161
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 3: speaks to the sanity that you have to keep no

1162
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 3: matter how top for the high level, the frequency is

1163
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 3: in which you have to perform to have a grounding

1164
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 3: and be able to get past that storm and then say,

1165
00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 3: get you the sunny days now, because the storm gave

1166
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 3: me the ability to say, I can see it coming,

1167
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 3: I can avoid it, you know, So it was important

1168
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 3: to go through all those those those dry seasons in

1169
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:09,879
Speaker 3: low and low seits.

1170
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 1: Yes it's a texture and it's the quilt.

1171
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 2: Yes, it's a texture exactly.

1172
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 3: It's a texture kind of paves the road and now

1173
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 3: you're capable to either go on the freeway or off

1174
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 3: road and you'll it's amazing.

1175
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yeah, well, you know, the thing about the

1176
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 1: show has been very successful, which I'm very proud of.

1177
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: But like, the one thing I wasn't thinking about when

1178
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: doing it, because a lot of things I do is like,

1179
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: it's going to be successful. I had this idea and

1180
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: it's going to be great, and we're going to talk

1181
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: about this. And what I love the most about it

1182
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: is just like I I'm not social. I never leave

1183
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: my house unless i'm like I have to. I leave

1184
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: my house, my daughters will cross. I'm being paid to

1185
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: be over here, and that's I'm just very very antisocial.

1186
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: And it's surprising, but I'm always in pajamas.

1187
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 2: I mean, definitely me.

1188
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: You're incredibly beyond beyond beyond. I'm very much an introverted,

1189
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: like from a leave the house. It's weird and everyone's

1190
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 1: shocked by that. But the one thing the show has

1191
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: given me is like to meet Like I feel I

1192
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: spent an hour with you. I don't spend an hour

1193
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: with my own friends half the time, Like I feel

1194
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: like I know you, so now I know you? Yeah,

1195
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: so now I know you so Like now that's exciting.

1196
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: I've met so many people like now I know you,

1197
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 1: and I really like know about your life stories that

1198
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: probably some of your friends don't even know. So I'm

1199
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 1: excited to meet you and to have known you and

1200
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 1: like all these interesting people that I would never have

1201
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: known anything about. So I'm so grateful and thank you

1202
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: so much for coming to like talk to me, and

1203
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: now I know you. We know each other.

1204
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 2: No, I'm insane.

1205
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 3: You know that this is also exciting because the moment

1206
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 3: we see each other in person, it's not as I.

1207
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: Think, it's a hug, right, yes, one hundred percent, So

1208
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: I can't wait for that to happen. Love to your family.

1209
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 3: You have one child, yes, I have a two year

1210
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 3: all she just turned two of February fifteen. She's a

1211
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 3: dance glass right now, so that's that's hilarious every time.

1212
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 3: She just started school too, and you know, we're teaching

1213
00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 3: her English, Spanish and Mandarin. She's really pretty good Spanish

1214
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 3: because my mom, you know, it's all day Spanish with her,

1215
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 3: so she's pretty by linguent now. But we're trying to

1216
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 3: equip her with with you know, with tools that we

1217
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 3: never had, you know, and uh, and also she's living

1218
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 3: like a pretty similar upbringing like I did. You know,

1219
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 3: she's eating the same with my parents, you know, yeah, everything.

1220
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 2: So so it's been really great.

1221
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 3: She dances first and and talks later, you know, so

1222
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 3: that that's ultimately that's amazing.

1223
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 1: And you married, uh, someone in the industry, or I

1224
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 1: call it a civilian, yes, yes, yeah, civilian.

1225
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 3: Yeah basically, yeah, basically someone who who's expectations less a

1226
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 3: lot more realistic than mine ever were, you know. Yeah,

1227
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 3: and so she, yeah, she's a very special human being.

1228
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 3: Amanda makes it look very easy.

1229
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 4: You know.

1230
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 3: She gets along better with the dolphin than with human beings.

1231
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 3: You know, she loves nature. She's a dive master, she's

1232
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 3: a scuba divert and wow and rescue. She's a badass,

1233
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 3: you know. And and she really u taught me to

1234
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 3: you know, to take deep breads and to look up

1235
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 3: and enjoy the green trees. You know, because when we

1236
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 3: do this and we're just like we're going, we're going,

1237
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 3: we're going, we got this. We gotta do everything this

1238
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 3: sometimes you kind of straight away of the recent why

1239
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,919
Speaker 3: you work so hard and why you do this so much.

1240
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 1: That's why that story was really good for me today.

1241
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: That story was like, you're a good storyteller.

1242
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 4: Like you.

1243
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 1: I was there in the living room on the phone. Well,

1244
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 1: it's so nice to know you, and I can't wait

1245
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: to meet you in person. And I appreciate you taking

1246
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 1: the time, I really do. So good luck and congratulations

1247
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: and keep in touch and let me know. I can't

1248
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 1: wait to follow you now the second I get off

1249
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 1: follow you on my social media to hear.

1250
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 3: What you're Yeah, I'm gonna look for you too again,

1251
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 3: so blessed will be able to have this conversation.

1252
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 2: It was actually felt good to.

1253
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 3: Get a lot of that stuff out of you know,

1254
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 3: I don't really talk about this stuff very often, but

1255
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 3: it is nice to reconnect with that. So I'm so

1256
01:00:55,880 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 3: glad that you connected with my story because you know,

1257
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 3: it's so raw and my brain still you know, those

1258
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 3: moments are just so incredibly unforgettable and uh, you know,

1259
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 3: I'm excited when I get to relive it and say

1260
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 3: it aloud to somebody who can relate to it too.

1261
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 3: So so thank you for having me in the show

1262
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 3: and I continue all the success and I'm always around

1263
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 3: if you if you need a cup of shirt.

1264
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 1: Thank you, awesome, Thank you so much.

1265
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 2: Awesome.

1266
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 1: Ke have a good day. Oh my god, do I

1267
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 1: love wilmavel drama. He had me crying. This show gives

1268
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 1: me so many gifts that I end up becoming their

1269
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 1: friends and bonding with them and like knowing them and

1270
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 1: we're crying and this meaningful, beautiful story. What a great experience.

1271
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: I adore Wilmer. That was incredible. I am so lucky.

1272
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 1: I'm so happy. Thank you so much, Rate review and subscribe.

1273
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm literally early on my phone to find

1274
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: Wilmer and follow him right now, so I can't believe

1275
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 1: I didn't know him. This is exciting, Wow, amazing. Thank

1276
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 1: you so much,