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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Between the Horns. I'm Miles Simmons.

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Speaker 1: I'm joined by de Marco far It is just about

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Speaker 1: two forty Eastern time. You're in the Eastern time zone

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Speaker 1: here in Baltimore, Maryland. So happy for saying that. Oh

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Speaker 1: I am Eastern time. I love East Coast time and

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Speaker 1: so where I grew up. Man, this is late bro, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is different. You know what's funny, it's basically the

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Speaker 1: same time that we would normally be doing this. True, yeah,

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Speaker 1: if we were in Los Angeles. But right now we're

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Speaker 1: on kind of the deck of the Baltimore Marriott Inner Harbor. No,

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Speaker 1: excuse me, Waterside Inner Harbor is a different one. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if I should be telling you. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but we're here. Yeah, but we're here. It's really cool.

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Speaker 1: You know, we can see the M ANDT Bank Stadium

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Speaker 1: basically from where we are. We can from this vantage point. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there are there are windows to the hotel rooms. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But yeah. So we've been here in Baltimore over the

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Speaker 1: last few days of the Rams and Ravens practice together

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Speaker 1: out at their facility in Owens Mills Monday and Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: What are your biggest takeaways from those practice I had fun. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I couldn't wait to see certain guys like

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Speaker 1: the Rams youngsters. I mean we've talked a lot about,

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Speaker 1: you know, guys getting reps, but you have to be honest,

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Speaker 1: part of me was excited to see what the Ravens

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Speaker 1: had to offer. I mean, it's it's it's an invite

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Speaker 1: into their world. Their facility, practice facility is Wow, it's

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Speaker 1: very nice. It's very well. Sean McVay said yesterday or

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Speaker 1: two days ago, whenever it was that it's kind of

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Speaker 1: like pulling up to a country club when you get there.

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Speaker 1: That's what it felt like. Yeah, it's very well, and

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Speaker 1: it's it's very very football. You know, it's everything a

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Speaker 1: football team needs to get better. You know, it's something

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Speaker 1: you can imagine. So it's been fun. So you get

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Speaker 1: to open up, you know, they open up their world

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Speaker 1: to you, and then seeing your guys compete with the

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Speaker 1: Ravens has been a whole lot of fun. You hope

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Speaker 1: that it didn't turn into a side show, and it didn't.

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Speaker 1: Know it gets a credit to both teams and both

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Speaker 1: coaches and the players out there just going about their

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Speaker 1: business practicing against somebody you don't really know, getting good work,

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Speaker 1: getting the field exactly. It was fun to just see

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Speaker 1: the Rams go against a different color, I thought this week,

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Speaker 1: because when you're going through camp all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: sometimes it just starts happening where you're like, man, I

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Speaker 1: am so sick and tired of going against you, and

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Speaker 1: then you almost start getting fights like friendly fire, you know,

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Speaker 1: from the perspective of your own team. And so you

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Speaker 1: didn't necessarily have to go through that because the Rams,

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Speaker 1: the time, the way the timing worked out, I thought

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Speaker 1: was great that the Rams were able to come here.

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Speaker 1: You've been through eight practices in Irvine. You know, you've

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Speaker 1: had a couple of days off. You come here, you

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Speaker 1: get your work done, you're gonna play in a game tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: and then you're gonna go home, get some more practices

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Speaker 1: and then get things started at klou Jan. You know

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Speaker 1: what I thought was funny. On the way over we left.

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Speaker 1: What time did we leave? Like five in the Los

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Speaker 1: Angeles in the morning. What time did we leave? We

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Speaker 1: left It like nine thirty in the morning when we left.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. When we were in the air,

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Speaker 1: the entire team was knocked out cold. Oh yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: all in lockstep. Everyone's on the same Schedge's true. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's I mean that to me, the little things how

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Speaker 1: that sort of stuff that stands out to me. You know,

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Speaker 1: you have a problem when it's a mix, when you

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Speaker 1: have guys that are allowed and guys that are knocked out. Well,

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Speaker 1: what's the what's the deal here? Yeah? Why are we

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Speaker 1: on two different pages? But this everyone is out? Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's crazy. Everyone was trying to get some rest. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And and pretty much when you talk to the guys

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Speaker 1: about certain reps or expectations, the message is largely the same.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Meaning what what is the

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Speaker 1: message about being this good handling it and going out

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Speaker 1: and play your best game on Sunday? You know what

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Speaker 1: I mean? Knowing that you're one of the best teams

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Speaker 1: in the NFC. There's confidence everywhere. Yes, yeah, So it's

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Speaker 1: that sort of stuff that gives you confidence going into

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Speaker 1: a game. I hope it carries over to Thursday and

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Speaker 1: they play well as well. But when you look at

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Speaker 1: in the right direction. I like it. Confidence everywhere. But

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Speaker 1: you also have the things where it's like, all right,

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Speaker 1: a time, and everybody starts parting Sean Nick. You know,

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Speaker 1: we are always talk about daily improvement and daily excellence,

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Speaker 1: and that's what we need to do. We have to

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Speaker 1: go out and get one percent better every day. If

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Speaker 1: you've watched any Sean McVay press conference over the last

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Speaker 1: year and a half, you've heard him say those yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then you get to see guys doing it. You

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Speaker 1: like on VET days when Saffold and Whitworth are out,

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Speaker 1: they're not just standing around joking. They're actually coaching other

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Speaker 1: players yes that probably won't get reps or half get reps,

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Speaker 1: and guys are going to them. And it's happening all

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Speaker 1: over the field. Yeah, yeah, So, I mean that's good

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Speaker 1: team building stuff. It is, you know you say, it

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Speaker 1: definitely want to bring up as a secondary. They had

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Speaker 1: a great day yesterday. And you know when Tali pass

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Speaker 1: those VET days, he's always talking to the guys on

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Speaker 1: the sidelines. But you know, it seemed like the defense

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Speaker 1: that first team Baltimore offense. The ball. The ball is

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Speaker 1: a hotly contested deal in that room. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: being the guy that gets the pick is a big

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Speaker 1: the way it should be with corners and secondary guys.

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Speaker 1: For as much of divas as receivers can be, you

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Speaker 1: need the exact opposite. But they're almost the same, you

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Speaker 1: know what. So corners think and react differently. That's why

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Speaker 1: they're corners. But the ball is very important to them.

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Speaker 1: It is. And there were at least four picks by

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Speaker 1: the first team defense, and I didn't see all of

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Speaker 1: them because the way these practices work to joint practices.

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Speaker 1: One field is you know, Rams offense versus Ravens defense.

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Speaker 1: I saw two of these picks. The ones I saw

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Speaker 1: were Marcus Peters in the end zone, which was up

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Speaker 1: on Twitter, up on our website. You haven't seen it,

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Speaker 1: you should see it. It's really good because Marcus Peters

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Speaker 1: was also wired, so look out for that. Yeah, it's fun.

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Speaker 1: But also Corey Littleton had a pick in there and

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Speaker 1: it was off. Yeah, it was off of a trick play.

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Speaker 1: They tried to do a running back pass. Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: keeps doing that, We're going to expect it from him. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well we're gonna We're gonna keep expecting stuff look like

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Speaker 1: the game against the Tennessee Titans back in Week sixteen

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Speaker 1: last year when he had to make that spot start

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Speaker 1: for Mark Barron. So he's got a note for the football.

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Speaker 1: But those athletic turn a no play into a big play. Types.

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Speaker 1: Oh right, you keep doing that. Okay, Well, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to expect more out of you. Yes, good that that

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Speaker 1: pays well, Yes, that's good for Corey. It does. Describing

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Speaker 1: that play, and we saw it when they were going

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Speaker 1: through warm ups. Remember, so we were standing in that

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Speaker 1: end zone. You were talking a couple buddies. But they

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Speaker 1: had the running back and I wish I could remember

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Speaker 1: his name, number thirty four. He rolls out to his

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Speaker 1: left and then he's also a lefty, so he's starting

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Speaker 1: to throw the pass into the end zone. And what

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Speaker 1: happens once they're running against the Rams is that Corey

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Speaker 1: catches it as it goes down and that's an interception

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Speaker 1: for Los Angeles Rams. A great react play. Um, That's

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Speaker 1: that's hard for any coach to take credit for. You know,

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Speaker 1: do you think Wade Phillips would still say credit for it?

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Speaker 1: I mean, but that's that's great, ends Joe. That's just

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Speaker 1: a great play by a young kid. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: never lose those instincts for the ball. And while he's

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Speaker 1: got the ability, you might as well use it. Yeah, yes,

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Speaker 1: Court Littleton I think is a really interesting player that

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Speaker 1: people are talking about right now for the LA Rams,

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Speaker 1: mainly because he's moving into that signal caller role and

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Speaker 1: that's a role that was occupied previously by Alec Ogletree

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Speaker 1: It's hard on a defender, I think when it's something

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Speaker 1: be the communication conduit from the sideline to the field.

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Speaker 1: But it can be done for every great middle linebacker,

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Speaker 1: inside linebacker, what have you, the guy that calls the

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Speaker 1: signals a singletary, Ray lewis Hey, Luke Keighley. Right now,

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Speaker 1: there's always a first time, but it can be done.

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Speaker 1: It's not impossible. I don't think it's possible. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: you can be really good at that spot. You know,

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Speaker 1: you go from signal caller to team leader. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: know you are. You're the voice of Wade Phillips on

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Speaker 1: the field. Yeah, you're the last thing the guys here,

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Speaker 1: takes a while to grow into that role, to understand

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Speaker 1: what it means. Just keep making plays, so you do. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: longer you're gonna stay, the more you're gonna get it.

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Speaker 1: He's got the ability. So I asked Wade Phillips a

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Speaker 1: have confidence in Corey Littleton that he could go out

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Speaker 1: there and then he could be the signal caller. Basically,

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Speaker 1: got to have quarterback like sacrifice man. I mean Peyton

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Speaker 1: Manny and Tom Brady, these guys quarterback like sacrifice on

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. These guys are so great because this is

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Speaker 1: all they do. They just in just football constantly, that

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Speaker 1: the film mental board. You can be the same way

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Speaker 1: on defense. Yeah, well, and you can be very good

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Speaker 1: at it. I just think about James Laurnitas and I

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Speaker 1: only around him for two years, but that's to me,

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Speaker 1: that's always what he represented as that middle linebacker. And

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Speaker 1: I think alec Ogletree did a really nice job of

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Speaker 1: stepping into that and going into that as well, especially

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Speaker 1: because he had seen James, Laura and I do it

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Speaker 1: two different schemes too. Yeah. Yeah, a couple of changeovers

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Speaker 1: well and become really good at it. So it is possible.

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Speaker 1: So you've got a great opportunity. But like I said,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna take some sacrifice. Yeah. Some guys pick it

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Speaker 1: you're the guy. Yeah yeah, yeah. Okay, So two other

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Speaker 1: guys who had picks yesterday that we know about John Johnson. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: He's not that roster in front of you. What is

422
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Speaker 1: Cooper cup listed? Oh, you're gonna make me look yeah

423
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,119
Speaker 1: or eighteen? Yeah, you're gonna make me look hold on,

424
00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,919
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, and I I think I put you on

425
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,680
Speaker 1: the spot right out here, No. Six two two away right, Yeah.

426
00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 1: I mean that's not a small niver. That's a small

427
00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,600
Speaker 1: running back. Yeah, that's a small running back. That's an

428
00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,960
Speaker 1: acc size running back. Yeah. And smart, and he's fast

429
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,159
Speaker 1: and he's you know, he's all of a sudden with

430
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 1: his breaks. You know when he's got you, when he

431
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,199
Speaker 1: can you know, pick up tells just like quarterbacks and

432
00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,560
Speaker 1: know what Jared's seeing, they're seeing the same thing. And

433
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,320
Speaker 1: how he makes his break and where he thinks the

434
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 1: ball should be and where it is at the same time,

435
00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,200
Speaker 1: and the adjustment he can make if Jared has to

436
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 1: put it off line the little bit. So that's sort

437
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,720
Speaker 1: of thing comes with reps. It's like a cat that

438
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 1: just refuses to stop chasing the ball. Yeah, it's the

439
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,920
Speaker 1: same thing. They'll find those dead spots hit you, just

440
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,879
Speaker 1: like big tight ends do well. The interesting thing about

441
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 1: this to me and Cooper Cups serving as that role.

442
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,640
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously we saw Cooper Cup make a lot

443
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 1: of third down receptions that he turned into first down.

444
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 1: That to right, it's the productive tight end roll. But

445
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 1: there was kind of larger implications besides that. You know,

446
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,639
Speaker 1: when you use Cooper Cup, it puts you an eleven personnel.

447
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 1: Now we've talked you know, MCBAH has talked about this too.

448
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 1: The Rams were an eleven personnel more than anybody else

449
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 1: last season eighty one percent of the time, Yes, they were.

450
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 1: Of their plays, they were in eleven personnel seven hundred

451
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 1: and ninety nine plays. That was the most in the

452
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,919
Speaker 1: league by far. Hitsburgh came in at number two in

453
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 1: terms of place seven thirty one and percentage. Detroit was

454
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 1: number two at seventy four percent. So again you can

455
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 1: see that there were so many. But the larger implication

456
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,160
Speaker 1: of that is that when you have that, it means

457
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 1: that defenses are going to play in more sub packages.

458
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:08,640
Speaker 1: And so I saw this tweet today from Jeff Ratcliffe

459
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 1: of Pro Football Focus, and he said that eleven personnel

460
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 1: because of that, not he didn't say eleven personnel. Let

461
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 1: me get this right. So because of this eleven personnel thing,

462
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 1: that to me translates to eighty percent of the time

463
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley was facing sub packages on defense. Yes, yeah,

464
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,360
Speaker 1: so if you're placing that, that means you have one

465
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 1: fewer linebacker in that is designed to stop the run.

466
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 1: So to me, this eighty percent, Oh my gosh, the

467
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,880
Speaker 1: rams played so much. Will eleven personnel? Don't think any more?

468
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 1: Out of the tight ends? Well, if you keep two

469
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 1: tight ends in there, that means that the other team

470
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 1: can play more linebackers stay in regular, Yes, and stay

471
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,639
Speaker 1: in regular and that in turn could lead to fewer

472
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 1: yards by Todd Gurley because you got more big men

473
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 1: in to stop him. Right. So I think that that's

474
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 1: not necessarily an angle that we've looked at of the Okay,

475
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,640
Speaker 1: you're in a eleven personnel eighty percent of the time.

476
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 1: And you've gotten a league running back who can get

477
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 1: good chunk yardage ye first down out of that and

478
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 1: six two two it can also block right yeah. Um

479
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 1: so yeah, it's it's it's a test when girls out

480
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 1: there for that nickel. When you're in eleven m, you're

481
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: gonna have to be in the box. You're gonna have

482
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 1: to make tackles on the cut back with a bigger back. Yeah,

483
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 1: but the Rams have guys that can do that. Unkel.

484
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: Robie Coleman is a guy that has to do that. Yeah,

485
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: I mean so, and there's a great job of thing. Yeah,

486
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 1: this is not new in the NFL. But um, if

487
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 1: you have a tight end that can also threaten on

488
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: the other side of that slot receiver, then the offense

489
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 1: becomes dangerous, like dangerous for a defense. Yeah. Yeah, we've

490
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 1: got a slot guy that we can't cover by position.

491
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 1: Yeah he's slot. We can't even jam the guy. Then

492
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: they have a tight end that can be either with

493
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: him or away from him, that's doing the same side

494
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: to the other, to the to the other safety. So

495
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 1: that's a lot of heat on the front floor. Um.

496
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 1: So when you think of having to play the ramps, sure,

497
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,959
Speaker 1: it's fun to play against this offense because you're facing eleven,

498
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: but you better have good ends and you better have

499
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 1: nickels that can tackle. Yeah. So how many teams as

500
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 1: we go along in this physical but physical game, actually

501
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: have that Sunday after Sunday. It's hard. It's really really hard.

502
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 1: It is hard, yes, but I just I yeah, I

503
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 1: think that's really interesting, just thinking about how the RAMS

504
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 1: can use their personnel groupings and what that means when

505
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 1: a certain personnel group is in there there. You know,

506
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: we've talked about it, that they're trying to use more

507
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,439
Speaker 1: tight ends this and that. I think the Rams are

508
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: still going to be an eleven personnel a lot of

509
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 1: the time. Maybe not quite eighty percent, but I would

510
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,719
Speaker 1: be very surprised if they went down to under seventy

511
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,719
Speaker 1: f one back one tight end. Yeah, one back, one

512
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: tight end. Three's going to be a tight end out there.

513
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: So yes, so to balance out the offense, I hope

514
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,360
Speaker 1: that position and everybody hopes that position gets better. You've

515
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: thrown those routes, those vertical routes on the back side

516
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 1: of eleven personnel. It's been hit or miss, to be honest.

517
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 1: So if you can make more hits down the field.

518
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: You can't cover everybody. Yeah, you just can't and deep

519
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: and get pressure on the quarterback at the same time.

520
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: If something's got to get but to balance out every

521
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: offense in eleven, that tight end has got to be

522
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: a threat. Okay, So Gerald Everet right now is dealing

523
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: with a shoulder injury, and so we're not quite sure

524
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: if the severity of that. He is not in Baltimore

525
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: right now, he's still dealing with that in southern California. Yeah,

526
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,719
Speaker 1: so we will see kind of an update on that

527
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 1: once we get back there. That was him. Oh my god,

528
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 1: that's like Vernon Davis, Like when Vernon Davis burst onto

529
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 1: the scenes. I mean when you think of athletic tight ends,

530
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 1: I mean you can think of guys that jump that,

531
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: that contort and catch passes Davis. Jordan Reed is the guy.

532
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: He's guys plays with feet on the ground and just

533
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: run by. You type, Oh my god. And he's he's

534
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: done that in over the course of training camp. I thing,

535
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 1: he's almost guaranteed the burn you at least once a game. Yeah. Yeah,

536
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,199
Speaker 1: and just by the way you have to cover the

537
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: other people r and call a game. Eventually that guy's

538
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,360
Speaker 1: gonna burn you. So what else have you seen from

539
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 1: the tight ends guys either from you know, Everet or

540
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: guys like Himingway And well, you know, we talk about

541
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: Himingway his size alone, just the length and where you

542
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: can put the football and how you can call plays

543
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: based on that length. It's intriguing to see how he

544
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 1: plays and if they target him in certain situations and

545
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 1: how he does with those targets. I hope he plays well.

546
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 1: He's gonna have to block like everybody else, you know that,

547
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 1: So I like the size Hickby's Higby man. I think

548
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 1: we're seeing there could be a jump. Who knows, especially

549
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: at that position, and these sorts of offenses, guys can

550
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: have great years when you're least expecting it out of nowhere,

551
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna seal. You're gonna have looks, like we said,

552
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: based on play calling and what Sean McVay is doing

553
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 1: to manipulate the defense. Eventually, that's gonna be a matchup

554
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: that favors the call and you're gonna get the ball

555
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 1: so or get the ball thrown at you. So hopefully

556
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: he comes down. But as far as body's hyde blocking

557
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: being complete, yeah, he's good. The guy's reliable. He can play.

558
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: Now let's see what he does with his opportunities. And

559
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 1: I think that's what we have to see from him.

560
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 1: It's just to me, it's a matter if Higby putting

561
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 1: things together and building a little bit more consistency. Yeah,

562
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 1: because I think we've seen that he can definitely run, block. Yeah,

563
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 1: he can get out there and he can move. He

564
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: can move, he can catch passes. But I think that

565
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: obviously is the thing that he's got to get more consistent.

566
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 1: I don't just making the catches. He's not a guy

567
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: you really lose per down. Meaning like you know, Tyler

568
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: Higby is only effective in first and ten Okay, well,

569
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: I mean he's effective and thirdlong as well. Yeah, you know,

570
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: I mean he can be used all over the football field.

571
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: So that's the ability he's shown, or at least what

572
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 1: we see in practice and what they think of him. Yes,

573
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: So if you see those same shots in games, expect

574
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: big results. Yeah. And it's interesting too, the fact that

575
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: Jared Goff has such a good relationship with Tyler Gigby. Yeah.

576
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 1: I don't know as yeah, yeah, I don't know how

577
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: much it really means on the field. Well, what do

578
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: you think I like the connection from this angle? Um,

579
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: the guy receiving the past knows how much how important

580
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 1: that ball is as the guy throwing it. So I

581
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: love those connections. Um, those deep friendships out there. Uh,

582
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: if it's a last gasp and you know, I need

583
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: somebody to come down with it in a dirty part

584
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: of the field where I know he's gonna take a

585
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: pop and I gotta lay it to my my good

586
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: friend help me out here. So that stuff's always big. Um,

587
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: so it gets your looks now you gotta come down

588
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: with it on the other side. Yes, yeah, Yeah, it's

589
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: interesting though. All those guys seem like they're really good friends. Yeah,

590
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: Like especially I think the three. Yeah, he's working. I

591
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: just any quarterback. He's gonna be looking at any quarterback like, okay,

592
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: I need more, you know what I mean? Yeah, I

593
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: want the ball all the time. But I mean, you

594
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: know what, I'll the little kid who never gets tired.

595
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: These guys, those three guys Woods and Cooks. Yeah. I

596
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: don't know if you notice this because I don't know

597
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: how much on social media, but on Saturday before practice,

598
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: like the three of them were all posting pictures of

599
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: each other like they like just pictures of them in

600
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: situations like on the field, doing this, doing that. And

601
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: then they all went out and had like the best

602
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: practice of camp, which was really fun and interesting to see,

603
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: and I kind of want to ask them about, like

604
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: what was up with that. I mean, it just seems

605
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: like they are forming such a really good partnership. And

606
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: then the three of them took a picture with Jared

607
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: Goff after practice. They strike me and I wish we

608
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: can go back to this era, but it's this is

609
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: going way way back. So this is for the old fans.

610
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: I wish we can go back to what guys head posters.

611
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: They used to have posters of the entire group, like

612
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: the Raiders secondary or the Rams receivers. Yeah, that's what

613
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: they remind me of. It's funny with the era of

614
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: t O and the look at me receiver right versus

615
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: the fun bunch. Three guys they just killed you. Yeah,

616
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: you know Marino's receivers. Three guys just sliced up defense. Oh,

617
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: Jay McDuffie, Yes, and a one of my high school

618
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: talking just sliced up defenses. There was nothing you can do,

619
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: and they caught everything and it just looked like they

620
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: were having more fun. They were entertaining each other, yes,

621
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: versus playing football. Gosh, that just that seems like that's

622
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: where this group is headed. They still have to do it, obviously,

623
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: but to me, that's just where it seems like that

624
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: group's head. And it's funny the anti that is actually

625
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: their own secondary. They want to bust all that up.

626
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: It's so fun. Yeah, that's really true. It's a shame

627
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: that that you can't get this matchup on Sunday. No. Well,

628
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: I think as they all say, you know, Greg Jared

629
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: Goff says this all the time, I'm glad I don't

630
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,719
Speaker 1: have to face my secondary on different Sundays. Yeah, um,

631
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: let's start it to something else. And it's something that

632
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: everybody's talking about, and I know they want us to

633
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: talk about it. So what is the latest on Aaron Donald?

634
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: So there actually was sort of an update today as

635
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: he here pulled out No he's not here, end of story.

636
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: All right, Well, yes, there's sort of no update, but

637
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: then there kind of is an update. It seems like

638
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: less sneed met with some of the local Los Angeles

639
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: reporters who made the trip to Baltimore here today. So

640
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: this is coming from Gary Klein of The La Times

641
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: tweeted out today that GM less. Sneed said on Wednesday

642
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: the Rams are quote in the same zip code, area

643
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: code and ballpark as Donald when it comes to a

644
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: potential deal, So that's good news. Also, Klein tweeted out,

645
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: Sneed said, nothing has changed since we started this process.

646
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: The goal is, Hey, let's come up with a win

647
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: win solution for the reigning defensive MVP and Los Angeles Rams,

648
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: and that's a long term contract for Aaron Donald. Benny

649
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: bonsen Or of The Athletic noted that Snead added zip

650
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: code usually means it's close, So we've not heard that

651
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: specifically from the Rams brass in throughout this entire process.

652
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: Any noting of the word close. I'll be happier when

653
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: they say we're in the same room. Yeah, I think

654
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: I saw somebody and I gosh, I can remember Checker.

655
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: Remember it was who like retweeted the quote with a

656
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: quote tweet and he's like, I wanted them in the

657
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: same bed. All right, I'm gonna leave that, but I think, yes,

658
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: you want it to be closer than zip code, area code, whatnot.

659
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: You you want to be in the same room. He's

660
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: sitting next to each other on the same scene with

661
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: a pinning your hand, and it's been very respectful. But no, um,

662
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: I'm kind of glad we're not hearing from Aaron. Yeah,

663
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: you know, Okay, Yeah, I don't think there's anything good

664
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: that can come out of him making a statement. Sure,

665
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know that there's much good that

666
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,479
Speaker 1: comes out of the rams talking, which is why you

667
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: know they have sort of stayed away from everything. You

668
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: have not really heard numbers, you got heard anything. But

669
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,479
Speaker 1: we respect Aaron, we respect this process, things like that

670
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: from guys like um Less Need and head coach Sean McVeigh.

671
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: I just hope public opinion doesn't turn you know what

672
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: I mean? Sure? Yeah, um, it is what it is. Man. Look,

673
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: I think the prevailing thought to this whole thing, to

674
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: anyone that's reporting, no matter who they are, about this situation.

675
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: We've never been here before. This is new. Yeah, this

676
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: is new, guys, So how do you handle it going forward?

677
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: This changes the game? That's what that is. Seems to

678
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: be the goal, the end goal for what Aaron Donald's

679
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: holding out for it to change the game. Ye. So,

680
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: And to be honest, man, I mean, the way he's

681
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: playing the way he's been playing. There are there are

682
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: great players. There are good players, and they're just absolute

683
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: gods and cleats great football players. There are difference makers,

684
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: and sometimes those rush up against the business and you

685
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: have to navigate yourself through it. But he is still

686
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: the same guy you love. He's the guy that wants

687
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: to be here. He wants to rerec shop. Trust me,

688
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: believe me, who wouldn't want to come here and play

689
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: with Sue Rights? Think about that as any three technique

690
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: that's ever played three technique knows what I'm talking about.

691
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: You get to play with that next to you for

692
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: sixteen weeks, guaranteed one on ones for sixteen weeks. What

693
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: numbers can I put up? Yes? Absolutely so. Anyway, these

694
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: things take time. They take time. But I think what

695
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: Sneed said today sort of jives with what the latest

696
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 1: reporting has been. I think of the Jason Lockhan for

697
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 1: a tweet that came out right before camp or it

698
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 1: seemed like he said, you know, this thing seems close.

699
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: Charles Robinson of Yakman, I think we talked about this

700
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 1: on the last podcast. He also said the two sides

701
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: aren't far apart. It's a matter of massaging numbers to

702
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: stay there. Seems like things are getting closer and closer.

703
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: I try not to read, but it's just some of

704
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: the opinions. I'm not surprised. Who's like somebody saying, who's

705
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: messing this up? No, one's messing it up. It's a negotiation.

706
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: This is just how it's has to go for right,

707
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: this team and this guy. Right. Yeah, it's just the

708
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 1: way it is right now. Um, there was kind of

709
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: that deadline and it sort of has now turned into

710
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: what it was, an artificial deadline, August seventh being thirty

711
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: days before the start of the regular season and Aaron

712
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: Donald needing to report by then in order to get

713
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: in a crude season for free agency. Um, and if not,

714
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: then he'd become a restricted free agent. Obviously he's not here,

715
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: so that means that Donald would become a restricted free

716
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: agent at the end of the season. God what thank

717
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: God for Flacco that Aaron wasn't here. Oh, just saying,

718
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: because well, you can't hit quarterbacks in practice anyway. Yeah,

719
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: but you can. You can aim at him, you can

720
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 1: give him warning shot. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah. They

721
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: I mean they should have to move around you. You

722
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: don't have to go after them, but you know, you

723
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 1: let them know you're there. Yeah, I guess right, Yeah,

724
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: but that is that was the saddest part for me

725
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: watching those practices. What wasn't there. Yeah, that would have

726
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: been some wild, wild stuff. Oh I think so. Yeah.

727
00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, I mean you saw it from the

728
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: consue just going around a couple of guys like I mean,

729
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: particularly there's the Orlando Brown Junior rep that Sue had

730
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: as big as his father. Yeah, but Orlando Brown Junior,

731
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: if you've used some technique work, well, yeah, he's in rookie,

732
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: which I don't mean to say like he's gonna be

733
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: doomin con sue beat you from a left end position.

734
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: Yeah he did. Yeah, I mean he lined up at

735
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: left and swatted Brown Jinger's arms down. Learn a lot

736
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: from him about him after that play. Yeah, that's that's

737
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: on tape man. Yeah. Yeah, you have to get better

738
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: from there. Yes, I'm not sure if I've ever seen

739
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: a Dominican sue beat anybody from a left end spot.

740
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: I think we might do it this year. Yeah, as

741
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 1: I sort of Okay, let me finish the point I

742
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 1: was wrong. I want to get back to this because

743
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: this is actually important Um, but so Donald will now

744
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: be a restricted free agent in the upcoming off season,

745
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: should there not be a contract extension with the LA

746
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 1: Rams because Sneid is now saying that things are getting closer.

747
00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: I don't think that that's something we're going to have

748
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: to worry about, but it is a thing now that

749
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: Donald will be a restrictive free agent because he did

750
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: not report now, so there is that point. Also, before

751
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: we get back to Sue, did you see the tweet

752
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: slash Instagram post of the h What is that? Like?

753
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: An hourglass? Jeez? I almost said a time turner? Oh

754
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: my god. Okay, like you ever you know Harry Potter? Yes, okay,

755
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: so like he has a time turner and what it

756
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: is is a little hour glass. Yeah yeah, but yeah, anyway, Um,

757
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: did you see the Twitter post? What was it? What

758
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: was it? It was literally an emoji of an hourglass?

759
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 1: And everybody was like, oh my god, what's the need?

760
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: Almost time to rip arms off? Almost time until they

761
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: unlocked the door and let him out, you know. Um

762
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: that's how I took it. Where he gets to go live? Um, yeah,

763
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: you know, look, it's it's fun. We have a lot

764
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: of fun talking about football, But I always say this,

765
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: you know, outside the trenches, it's a game. Inside it's

766
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: not meaning what the biggest and the strongest rule in there? Yeah,

767
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: and he's still here, yea, even though I mean, you know,

768
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: facing Donald facing Sue are both difficult, but for almost

769
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: completely different reasons. Yeah, you know what Sue does, he

770
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: does it really well. He's as strong or twice as

771
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: strong as they are, and he's mobile. Yes, and he's

772
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: not nice when he plays. Yes, Yeah, that's not fun

773
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 1: to play against. I don't care who you are. So

774
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: I didn't see it, but I'm assuming that's what that means. Okay, Yeah,

775
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: before he gets to let all that out, I mean,

776
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: everybody was sort of like, oh my gosh, like this

777
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: is Aaron Donald giving some message about his contract status

778
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: whatnot to Here's how I took it, Yes, because he

779
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: posted it on his Instagram story, which is, you know,

780
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: he posts things on his Instagram story all the time,

781
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: walking out basically showing I'm in shape and I'm Aaron

782
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 1: Donald and I'm more in shape than pretty much anybody

783
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: else in the entire National Football League because I'm a monster,

784
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: like and so on. One of those he captioned with

785
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: the hourglass, and that was a few few days before

786
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: then this infamous tweet now came out and it had

787
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: just an hourglass and every scene. I'm missing it, I think, No,

788
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: I that's oh he's wondering. What is he saying by

789
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: the hourglass, I'll here. I interpreted it as I'm waiting

790
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 1: for my time and then I'll come back and I'll

791
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: wreck shot. That's all. That's that's all. I think. It

792
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: could be no barbarian challenge or something. I don't think

793
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: it's I don't know. People may think it's more than that,

794
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: but I don't think it's anything about the harvest, the

795
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: entire NFL in your stead, thank you. I don't know.

796
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: I don't know Aaron Donald. To me, it just seems

797
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: like the kind of guy that he just wants to

798
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: play football and he wants to get paid what he's

799
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 1: earned in training with a guy with knives. Fake nice,

800
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: But yes, he's training to good stab. Yeah that's some

801
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: high level stuff that's his mind. Yeah, all right, but

802
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: good to go back to me. Now, what do you

803
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 1: want him not to be as good? Of course you do.

804
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: If he's not as good, he's he's easier to sign.

805
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: I think I'd rather be here with a guy like that,

806
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: but I want to keep him in my uniform. Yes, yeah,

807
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: that's always been the goal. As Lesson, it always says

808
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: to make Aaron a ramfer. Yeah, I'd rather have to

809
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: find ways to keep him here versus say goodbye. Yeah. Yeah,

810
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: Well I don't think anybody's planning on saying goodbye with

811
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: great players like that. Yeah, and everyone can say goodbye.

812
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: Oh you stop, no, gosh, stop singing anyway, ahead and singing.

813
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: I was just reciting. Anyway, Let's go back to the

814
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: thing I was trying to say about Dominican Sue because

815
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: I thought this was interesting when he was talking to

816
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: the media last week or so, and he was saying

817
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: that he believes a plan from Wade Phillips is to

818
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: move around basically all the guys up front. So there

819
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: are going to be times, I think when we see

820
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 1: Sue line up at left in, we see Michael Brockers

821
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: sometimes line up inside, we see Aaron Donald line up

822
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: at right end, you know, and those guys are just

823
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: kind of gonna go on a merry go round, and

824
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: you're never really gonna know who you're going to have

825
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 1: to block or how you're going to have to block

826
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 1: them mixed and match his matchups. I'm gonna put Sue

827
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: here so you can't run there, right, I'm gonna put

828
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: Rockers here, you can't run there. Yeah. Yeah, and who's

829
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: left to block Donald? Yea? Yeah, okay. Fun fun to

830
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: be Wade Phillips right now. Yeah. Probably it really is

831
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: between those guys up front and then the guys on

832
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: the back end. Yeah. That's going to make teams to

833
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: that's going to four teams into making decisions they probably

834
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: don't want to make it. We said it before. Man, Um,

835
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: I wish you were here. But even without Donald, I

836
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: this is gonna be fun to watch for as long

837
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: as we get to watch it. I wonder what the

838
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: reps are on defense? No Sue either, uh tomorrow? Yeah

839
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: against Baltimore, I would have to assume no Sue, Okay,

840
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: no Brockers, Probably no Sue. That's a wide body. Um,

841
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 1: that's that's a multiple playing guy in a three four defense.

842
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: That could be really scary. I'm sorry you're talking about Sue.

843
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: A guy you can move around them. Yeah, that that big,

844
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: that comfortable plan at all spots, and he's that strong. Wow,

845
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's that's that's old school man football,

846
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: it is, and that that's to me, is the really

847
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 1: cool thing about the way this defensive line is constructed.

848
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: Right now, You've got three starters, yeah, you know when

849
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 1: Aaron gets back, who are very very comfortable playing anywhere. Yeah.

850
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 1: I was just smiling because most people when they think

851
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: defensive end, they think these aerodynamic looking guys, right for

852
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 1: the most part. I mean, think of the Reggie Rights

853
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: of the world. You know, he wasn't very aerodynamic, but

854
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: he got there just as fast, right, yeah, Phillips. Yeah,

855
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: instead of running around you faster, he just moved you faster, right, Yeah,

856
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 1: that could be Sue, Yes, Yeah, And I think we're

857
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: gonna see a lot of that. All right, So let's

858
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about this Baltimore game here, because

859
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 1: we sort of mentioned it earlier and we were just

860
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: mentioning it now. I don't know that we are going

861
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: to see many, if any starters. Yeah, that game, Manyon

862
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: versus RG three, you think, yeah, Alisa start Well, both

863
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 1: guys are hoping that that's that's someday and more key

864
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: matchup down the line. I see, I mean they are,

865
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 1: they're almost here for the same thing. Yes, you know. Yeah,

866
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 1: you have to impress tomorrow, so it'll be fun. And

867
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 1: we already talked about talked about our expectation for Sean

868
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: Manion whenever you take over to when you leave, have

869
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: a lead. Yeah, yeah, unless even if something catastrophic happens. Yes,

870
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: I mean it's gonna it could be that type of game.

871
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: Let's see how you handle it. But RG three is

872
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 1: gonna be told the same thing. On the other side.

873
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: That should be fun. You know, technically that was a

874
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 1: different show when we talked about our expectations for Sean names. Okay,

875
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 1: well this show that which we technically you know, did

876
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: film a little bit before. List. Well, I'm wearing the

877
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: same shot. I know you're wearing the same But if

878
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: somebody didn't hear one and is only hearing this, what

879
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: are your expectations? What are your expectations for Sean Manyon. Uh?

880
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: You know, play well, Um, you know you make every

881
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 1: throw the offense requires, you're gonna have to throw a touch.

882
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: You know, we know about the rocket. Um. So if

883
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:52,439
Speaker 1: you're Sean McVeigh, I'm sure he's probably thinking, let's put

884
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: him in positions to have success, but let's let him

885
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: show off too. So you know, have some manion routes

886
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: long balls, Yes, because you've got receivers that can run

887
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 1: under it that that you know need the work too. Yes,

888
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: but also run your offense whatever you've game planned for

889
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: him to do. You've got to make all those throws

890
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: from the screen to the bomb. It's got to be

891
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: accurate and it's got to be the right spot. Do

892
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: you think that there is a backup quarterback competition going on?

893
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: I think there always is a competition going on. If

894
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: teams can get better, and I mean if the Aaron

895
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: Donald negotiation hasn't told you anything. This is a business.

896
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: So if you can get better in the short term

897
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,439
Speaker 1: for the long term, you'll do it. Yeah. So if

898
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 1: you see something better or something you like, or a

899
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: guy just has a knack for your offense or your defense,

900
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, all these guys that you think

901
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: are in trends on the depth chart, we've seen every

902
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: year something weird happens. Didn't They start out last year

903
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,439
Speaker 1: with one strong safety and end up with another. Yeah,

904
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: and it's strong safety they had starting got cut and

905
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: then was nowhere. Yeah. If they can get better and younger, yeah,

906
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 1: they'll do it. Okay, why wouldn't you know, I mean,

907
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: I agree with you, um, but if there is so

908
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: hows No, No, no no, no, I think that if if

909
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: there is a backup quarterback competition, and honestly, I don't

910
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: know that there truly is, only because of the way

911
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: Sean McVay talked about Sean Nannon yesterday. And you gotta

912
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: take coaches comments with a grain of salt always, but

913
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: the way McVay was saying, you know, Sean Mannon has

914
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: played very well over the course of this offseason, he

915
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: knows our system, he's picked things up, et cetera, et cetera.

916
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: I don't know that there's really a true competition there. Okay,

917
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: fair enough, I mean, but I mean you want to

918
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: see Alan, you want to see Perez play? Yeah, and

919
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: I think how they do. And I mean, you know,

920
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: this is the preseason. This is where magic happens. No, no,

921
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: I'm being serious. No more guys you think that, aren't

922
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,439
Speaker 1: you know? Our camp fodder turned out to be better

923
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: than you think. And you who let me give you

924
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: a second thought, or guys you thought were going to

925
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: be key contributors get out played. Yeah, it's just football.

926
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 1: This is competitions. Difference We talked about auditions, right, Yeah,

927
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: you know there's some great singers that just botched, absolutely

928
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: botched their auditions. Talented talented actors botched auditions. Yeah, your

929
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 1: audition is tomorrow. Right, Let's see how you play. I mean,

930
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: you don't really sure you take a depth chart out there,

931
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: but it's all about how you play in production when

932
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: you're in there, right, And so that I think is

933
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: going to be interesting. Just that. Okay, Sean Mannion, you

934
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: expect him right now to be a backup. But Brandon

935
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 1: Allen and Louis Perez they have some work to do.

936
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: They could do it. They could make up that ground

937
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 1: and maybe something shifts in that quarterback depth chart. Well,

938
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: funny question, Okay, both quarterbacks backups for Baltimore RG three

939
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: and Jackson Lamar Jacksons combine. Do you think they'll have

940
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: more rushing yards of passing yards tomorrow or throughout the preseason? Tomorrow?

941
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: Probably rushing yards because I think I like the depth

942
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: on the rams secondary to stop them. And I bet

943
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna be running. They're gonna play football. They're gonna

944
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: just turn them loose, have some fun. See how they play.

945
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: So instinct is going to kick in those quarterbacks will

946
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,720
Speaker 1: be on the move. So it's just all about playing

947
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: your best game whenever you're in and whatever you do,

948
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 1: do it best. They want to see. They want to

949
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: see death right, and who the players are. Let's talk

950
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 1: about running backs too, because obviously Todd Gurley probably another

951
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 1: one of those starters not going to play behind him though,

952
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: Malcolm Brown, Justin Davis and then newcomer John Kelly probably

953
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 1: the top contenders for those other couple roster spots at

954
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: running back. What do you think of that running back? Brown? Absolutely? Yeah,

955
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: let's see more of it. Yeah, more Brown, more Malcolm Brown,

956
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 1: more Malcolm Brown and Manyon that that that same two combo.

957
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: I mean this is you know, their tape, their time

958
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: so um stiff challenges, especially from the running backs. Um,

959
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,479
Speaker 1: I think Kelly has been fun to watch. I agree, Yeah,

960
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: m interesting to see what he does with his carries

961
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: or touches. Um. You know, there's there's play calls, and

962
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: you do what you're told, and you do what you

963
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: you practice to do, but at some point your instincts

964
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: take over and let's see who the better football player is.

965
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: YEA for those guys breaking tackles, you know, let's see

966
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,760
Speaker 1: you turn a four yard or into a fifteen yarder

967
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: or beyond. Let me see you step out of a few,

968
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: and then you have to do what you're also tasked

969
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: to do, be smart and pass protection nowhere you're supposed

970
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: to be on screens. You know, no mental mistakes. That

971
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: stuff also factors in, But you know, once the rock

972
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: is in your hand, it's your game. Let's see what

973
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 1: type of game you have. I think John Kelly could

974
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: be impressive in this game. I saw him have a

975
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: couple nice runs against the Ravens in practice, and I

976
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: think he's had a really good camp just in general.

977
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: You know, it's always interesting to see what can running

978
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: backs do when it comes to pass protection too, and

979
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: hanging onto the football. I think that hampered Justin Davis

980
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,919
Speaker 1: last Year's just the fumbles, yeah, yeah, because he got

981
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: in early in a game and he took a carry

982
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: and he fumbled, and then you really didn't see him

983
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: very much on offense throughout the rest of the season,

984
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: even though he's on the rocks. Once that starts, it's

985
00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: in your head. I don't care what you say, and

986
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: you have to actively work against it. It is I mean, really,

987
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: and guys can deal with it. I'm not saying it's

988
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: all consuming, but it's there. Yeah, you know, so that

989
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: that hinders you some you know, takes off some of

990
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,240
Speaker 1: the smoke. So I hope he has you know, clean carries,

991
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: just so he can play ball and go out there

992
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: and just and let it fly and see what happens. Man.

993
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 1: I mean with running backs too. You know, in this offense,

994
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 1: as with any other offensive player, you're gonna get the

995
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: ball in great situations. Oh yeah, with people out in

996
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: front for running backs. Yeah, yeah, so you have a

997
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: chance to be special and show what you can do,

998
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: highlight real stuff. You know, it's hard to deny special

999
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: when you can make one of those loose plays. I'll

1000
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: give it to you on the edge with a screen

1001
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: and let me see if you can turn into Darren

1002
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 1: Sproles all of a sudden. Yeah, to where it's undeniable

1003
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: that you're a part of the offense. You're an added

1004
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 1: dimension to this offense. Absolutely. The other position that I

1005
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 1: group I want to talk about too on the offense

1006
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: is the offensive line. Yeah, this will be our first

1007
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: chance to see Joe note Boom, Brian and Alan and

1008
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: Jamil Demby in game action. And I think so far,

1009
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: it seems like those guys are progressing pretty well in

1010
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 1: the offense. Baltimore's D line, their defense, their death. I mean,

1011
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: they're big and they play a power game upfront, So

1012
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: this will be a good test. You're gonna get moved around.

1013
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: You're gonna get guys that can run as well m

1014
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: guys that can bend really well. Like I said, I mean,

1015
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: Terrell Suggs is their leader and they follow his lead.

1016
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: So a lot of his rushes you see throughout because

1017
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: he's doing exactly what he's taught. So this will be fun.

1018
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: You're gonna be putting those situations too. It's not all

1019
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: going to be successful. Sometimes you're gonna have to throw

1020
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: from a deep pocket, you know, with a long third down,

1021
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to protect a while because you're

1022
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: all covered up because I expect vanilla. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, vanilla, vanilla, vanilla. Yeah.

1023
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: So maybe some guy doesn't get separation and Manyon has

1024
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: a whole of which means you got to hold your block.

1025
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: So it is what it is. When the ball snapped,

1026
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: you're responsible for this guy. Keep them off the quarterback. Yeah,

1027
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: So we'll go from there. But you know, I note

1028
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: Boom's got lot of work. Um, I think I think

1029
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: Alan is going to be just fine. I think he's

1030
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: a he. When you think center, you think his body type,

1031
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, and he's a rookie. Yeah, so imagine when

1032
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 1: he puts on another twenty pounds Yeah yeah, Yeah. He's

1033
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: got a powerlifter's body, a wrestler's body playing center, and

1034
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: he's got he's got some dog at him for sure.

1035
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: Just seeing him. I've seen him putting a few guys

1036
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: on their rear end throughout the course of training camp,

1037
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: and some guys you know, you might not know, so

1038
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: you think he, oh man, that guy's a rookie and

1039
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: he's doing that. Yeah, I like him. I do want

1040
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:37,720
Speaker 1: to know. Yes, Joe note Boom was playing left tackle

1041
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: for the Ones on offense yesterday when Andrew Whitworth was

1042
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,919
Speaker 1: getting a little bit of a breather, John Sullivan got

1043
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: one too, um, and Austin Blave came in and played center. So,

1044
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: if nothing else, I think that means Joe note Boom

1045
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: is coming along. If they want to put him in

1046
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 1: those situations, especially against an unfamiliar defense, that says something

1047
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 1: to me about Joe note Boom in his progression, So

1048
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: I think that's good to see me. With all due respect,

1049
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,280
Speaker 1: I think it's it's just an upgrade to the position

1050
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: in the back of the depth with him there, And

1051
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,439
Speaker 1: we talked about with getting time off because he's a bet.

1052
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: He knows what to do and how to play, so

1053
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: somebody's got to fill in that role. I assume that's

1054
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: what he was drafted to do. I agree, And you

1055
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 1: can trust him and they're going to trust him in

1056
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, yeah, So yeah, it's it's if they

1057
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: said they were starting him at right guard. I wouldn't

1058
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 1: be surprised, right, I wouldn't either, And that's something that

1059
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: they kind of are thinking about doing. They are cross

1060
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,720
Speaker 1: training note Boom right now at left tackle and right guards,

1061
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 1: so he could be the guy for those first two

1062
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,240
Speaker 1: games of the season when Jamal Brown serves his suspension.

1063
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: The Roger Saffel, that's that's what I call that, Yeah,

1064
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: mister versatile. Yeah, your your best left guard is also

1065
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: your next best left tackle and also your other best

1066
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:51,919
Speaker 1: right tackle. Yeah, yeah, exactly, And that's something that could

1067
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: definitely be happening over the course of the season. You

1068
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: want that guy to play. You can get through any game.

1069
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: You want that guy to be able to play multiple

1070
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,760
Speaker 1: positions because you're only going to have seven, maybe maybe

1071
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: eight offensive linemen up on game day. Give you some

1072
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: girth to it depends on what you want to do.

1073
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: A backup center, yeah, you know, because that backup center

1074
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: is going to have to play guard. Yes, you know.

1075
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: These guys are built to be centers. You know, guards

1076
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: are massive, especially right guards like Jamon Brown. Yeah, that's

1077
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: that's a right guard. Rob Havenstein is a right tackle.

1078
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: They're massive guys. That's your big side. I'll say this,

1079
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: if I had to predict the who the offensive linemen

1080
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 1: are going to be right now, yeah, I would probably

1081
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: say you're five starters, um with Sullivan, Whitworth, Saffled Brown, Havenstein,

1082
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: and then note Boom Alan Life, maybe Demby at the

1083
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: end of that the you know and do mean those

1084
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: guys are gonna be too. Of those guys are going

1085
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,399
Speaker 1: to be inactive on game day, right right, right? But yeah,

1086
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: those in my head right now out Yeah he's a

1087
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: guy you can throw in there too. Um. Yeah, he's

1088
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,240
Speaker 1: started as a true freshman in Maine at left tackle.

1089
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: It right out of high school, you're in college being

1090
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: a left tackle yeah, and gotten better and better and better,

1091
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: and at the end his junior and senior year, those

1092
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: offenses were great and he was every bit part of it. Yeah. Yeah,

1093
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: So another guy you give more reps here, the better

1094
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: he's gonna get. Absolutely looking at the defense, who itsanits

1095
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 1: you to see you over there against Baltimore. You know,

1096
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: we on the other show, we talked about Corey Littleton, right,

1097
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 1: and Remique Well and Remique Wilson, those two guys. Um,

1098
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: it's a big spot. Big I wouldn't say big shoes

1099
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: to fill, but it's a big spot right now. It's yeah,

1100
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: the question even more so than the outside linebackers. I

1101
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: mean that's pass rush. Um, that could take care of

1102
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: itself depending on how these quarterbacks play. Yeah, I mean

1103
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: a guy can fall into three sacks. But inside linebacker,

1104
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: with the way Baltimore is gonna call their game and

1105
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: their personnel, you're gonna be attacked with these tight ends.

1106
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: It's probably going to be in man coverage. Let's see

1107
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: how well you play, Let's see how well you do,

1108
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: and then they're gonna run the ball at you too,

1109
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: you know. So I mean, well, find out what that

1110
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,359
Speaker 1: position is. I guess after we see on Thursday. But

1111
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: as of right now we know names, we don't know

1112
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: the combination just yet. That's right, yeah, all right, any

1113
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: other parting shots before we let the people go. No,

1114
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: it's hot. I've had crab cakes every day, crabs day.

1115
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: Where did you? Where did you have the best crab

1116
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 1: cakes so far? I'll have them for lunch. Place called Bertha's.

1117
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it was so good. Oh it's just

1118
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: really really really tasty. Yeah it was fun. Yeah, yeah,

1119
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: really good stuff. And then mos and then I can't

1120
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: remember the first place. All right, I'm gonna try to

1121
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: go to mister Bill's tavern tonight. Nice. That's one of

1122
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 1: my favorite places. My grandfather lives down here in Baltimore,

1123
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: so there was another benefit to being down here, got

1124
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: to go see him. But when I come down here

1125
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,359
Speaker 1: with my family, that's where we usually go. Nice. It's

1126
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 1: one of those places where they dump the crabs on

1127
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:45,240
Speaker 1: the table. Just yeah, you get the hammer. They're kidded

1128
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: an old bay and you just go to town Nice.

1129
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll have a corona with it, just one couple.

1130
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: It's a family show. Yeah, it is a family show,

1131
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: all right, So guys, that'll do it for this edition

1132
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: of Between the Horns. When to thank you all for

1133
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: tuning in for a producer Glenn who did a great

1134
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: job holding the boom mic for the last hour for

1135
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Speaker 1: DeMarco far I'm Miles sevens. We'll see you next time.