1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:01,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what he said. 2 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 2: That's what he said. 3 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 3: That's what he said, that's. 4 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 2: What he said. What do you guys think of Tony 5 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 2: Boutello's comments on a daily basis to the media and 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 2: how refreshing it is. I've seen some people ebsrating him 7 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 2: online like, oh, this guy's not going to last, and 8 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: then I've now seen a contingency online AJ that is 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: super pumped. I'm joining that contingency. I'm not rooting for 10 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: or against the Giants. I'm rooting for fun storylines to 11 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 2: cover and stuff that we can talk about on our show. 12 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: Tony Vtello is a walking sound bite. He was like 13 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: that at Tennessee. It's just that now he's on a 14 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: more national stage as he's in Major League Baseball. And 15 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I know I mentioned this with Ken during 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 2: that segment, but you know he said last night and 17 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: then RAFFI I mentioned golf, you know, Tiger. I guess 18 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: bad timing. Like he he brings up somebody that's you know, 19 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: in music, another sport almost every day as part of 20 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: his verbiage to the media, and I think it's fun. 21 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 2: I mean, we do get a lot of coach speak 22 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: and cliches are you gonna agree or disagree with me 23 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 2: in terms of how he has said he's going to 24 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: be himself, and he is. Because some people are like, oh, 25 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 2: that he's just blabbing and he's changing the subject. I 26 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: mean Buck Show Walter used to do that and still 27 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 2: even does that sometimes on our show, where he'll like 28 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 2: take you on this winding road and you feel like 29 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 2: you know, you just I don't know, saw a jam 30 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: band for like five minutes and then forgot what you 31 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 2: were even there for. But what do you think. 32 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 4: I don't mind it. I just think that you have 33 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 4: to realize that you have to do the media three 34 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 4: times a day, so you can't always try to be 35 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 4: cute right right, Like you can't just always be cute 36 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 4: to them. Sometimes you have to say some stuff with substance, 37 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 4: like I'm fine with that this is the way he 38 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 4: wants to play the media. It doesn't bother me because 39 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 4: I don't have to deal with it on a daily basis. 40 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 4: And when I get to go do a Fox game 41 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 4: here coming in a couple of weeks with him, it's 42 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 4: gonna I'm gonna be interested to see how he handles it. 43 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 4: But he's never had to deal with this stuff, and 44 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 4: he's never had to answer questions again three times a day. 45 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 4: When you're a big league manager, you have to answer 46 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 4: questions three times a day, and that is a lot. 47 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 4: People don't realize how much that is until they have 48 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 4: to do it. And three times a day when you're 49 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 4: sitting there before a game, after a game sometimes you 50 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 4: know wherever he or they're everywhere. It's a lot. So 51 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 4: it's cool that he's trying to be like this and 52 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 4: he's trying to I don't want to say he's trying 53 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 4: to be cute, but he's trying to be himself. 54 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, you. 55 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 4: Know, it's three times a day, it's it's you got 56 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 4: to have some substance too. 57 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: There's there's been some managers that I've watched some of 58 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: their quotes and watched their interviews through the last few years, 59 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: like they seem fake. Tony Vitelo doesn't seem fake. It 60 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: seems like it's him. Now does that mean it connects 61 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 1: with everybody? Absolutely, it doesn't connect with everybody, Like there's 62 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: people who who want We had Joe West on the 63 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: other day and he was talking about Dick Williams, the manager, 64 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: and most people have no idea who he was, and 65 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: he was like, ah, it was hard nos. And it 66 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: was just like if a manager tries to create something, 67 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: tries to create a persona tries to create a clubhouse 68 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: that he thinks is supposed to be run a certain way. 69 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: He's cooked. You're gonna see through it. You can fake 70 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: your way through. You can fake your way through spring 71 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: training in the first few months, everything's all neat and shiny, 72 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: but the reality is the big league season's too long. 73 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: You can't put on a face, you can't try to 74 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: fake it with the local media. Like there there was 75 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: a manager close to where I live who came into 76 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: town and asked one of the local media people, said 77 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: where should I live? That would connect with the fans 78 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: the most, and the place where he chose to live 79 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: in the city that's near here wasn't at all. It 80 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: didn't connect with any of the Phillies fans, the Philly 81 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: blue collar fans who scrape together. They're sixty dollars to 82 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: come and watch the Phillies play, and they get behind 83 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: a team. Don't try, don't try to be fake. And 84 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: I think Tony Vitelo is not being fake. Is he 85 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: different than other managers. Absolutely, Buttello is genuine because I 86 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: and I say that because I don't really know him. 87 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: I say that because of hearing what Buster Posey has 88 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: said about him, hearing what Jace Tingler has said about him. 89 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: Guys that I respect, that I have played with, that 90 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: I have lived with in my career, that the way 91 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: they talk about him. So is it different than other people? Absolutely? 92 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: Is it genuine? Yes, And that's the only way it 93 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: works for him. 94 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: Hold that you had a coach who said, Oh, I'm 95 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 2: gonna live on Sylvester Street so I can tell the 96 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 2: people I'm with them. He chose his living based on that. 97 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: So brutal, so before he even found his place, Like 98 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: you can go through, you can go through the fakeness 99 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: of just it's just never gonna last. You're you're never 100 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: gonna have the genuine connection with your players. You're never 101 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: gonna have a genuine connection with the fans. And the 102 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: reason is because the media is sitting there going they're 103 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: holding there now. They all hold their phones up, they 104 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: know microphones, are holding their phone up and they're waiting 105 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: for you to say something because they know you're going 106 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: to have some kind of take about something. But they 107 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: don't ever connect with you because you're not really sure 108 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: if you're being honest with them. 109 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 2: Wow, I want to bring some strategy up. Let's run 110 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: back to back tweet tear Giants took down the Mets 111 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 2: last night. Manager of Vitello used Ryan Walker in the 112 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 2: sixth inning, and Susan Slesser tweeted it might be the 113 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 2: most high leverage situation of the game. That was his reasoning, 114 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 2: and he likened the extreme contrast between Robbie Ray and Walker, 115 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 2: making an interesting point that teams are often excited to 116 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 2: see a very good starter leave and seldom see a 117 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: closer type. Next and outside the box thought process there 118 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 2: and Alex Pavlovich, you also cover the team added on. 119 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 2: Tony Bytello said the staff talked before the game about 120 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 2: using Walker right after Ray, since they're pretty much opposite 121 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 2: looks left right, very different arm angles. He didn't want 122 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 2: the Mets to feel comfortable after getting Ray out of 123 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: the game. AJ, do you like this? 124 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 4: I mean, they won the game, so it worked, but 125 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 4: you also have to have a verified closer. At the 126 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 4: end of the game. You know, they were up seven 127 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 4: to two, so it was a little bit different. But 128 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 4: if it was a three to two game, and then 129 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 4: he's like, man, I really like to have my closer 130 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 4: guy back there in the back end. So yeah, do 131 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 4: I like this? 132 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 3: Sure? 133 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 4: But it's again, you know who really loved this was 134 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 4: a guy. 135 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 3: On a MLB. 136 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 4: You know network, Brian Kenney that he really loves this. 137 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 4: He's like, man, you should start the closer because that 138 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 4: are the toughest. 139 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 3: Three bats of the game. 140 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 4: But at some point, good teams have closers that they 141 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 4: use in closing situations. Does he not trust the other 142 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 4: guys in the seventh, sixth, seventh, eighth inning, yet he 143 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 4: has to go right to Walker, who's supposed to be 144 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 4: his closer. That's that's the only question I have. 145 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: I I didn't like it as much I liked it, 146 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: and I'm seeing it happen in the game when I 147 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: heard afterwards that they talked about before the game that 148 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: they were gonna they were gonna bring Walker in right 149 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: after Ray, I don't know. I And here's and here's 150 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: here's my gripe. And it's my gripe with people who say, well, 151 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: the closer should get the first three outs because the 152 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: first three hitters are the best hitters on the team 153 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden, the game is only 154 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: eight innings long. As a hitter, you get four at 155 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: bats in the game. This is why I'm kind of 156 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: against pinch hitting as liberally as some teams do, because 157 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: as you take those at bats, you get better. Now 158 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: would it be better to see all four at bats 159 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: against the same guy, Absolutely, you would have a much 160 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: better chance. I get that, But you get better as 161 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: the game goes on. Those at bats are different in 162 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: the seventh, eighth, and ninth inning than they are in 163 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: the first through sixth inning. So to me making decisions 164 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: before the game, and maybe they just said, hey, we'll 165 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: think about doing it, and say we're gonna do it, 166 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: because you have to think about who you're going to 167 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: bring in in certain situations when y comes out of 168 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: the game. But not, don't prescript things. Do not get 169 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: into prescripting things at work this time. But you have 170 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: to be able to read the game. And he has 171 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: a lot of really experienced big league coaches and managers 172 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: on his staff that I think will help him read 173 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: the game. Let's read the room. If you're winning three 174 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: to two, maybe it's a time you're winning five to two. Hey, 175 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: you know what this is in college. We can go 176 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 1: out and we can throw somebody out there who can 177 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: only give up one run and you're still winning by 178 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: two runs. Like it's you mitigate those games a little 179 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: bit differently. So just make sure we don't prescript what's 180 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: happening before the game actually is played out. 181 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 2: That's fair, right. You can have some ideas and some plans, 182 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: but then read what you're looking at, which is always important. 183 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 2: And hey, remembering this is still a new guy on 184 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 2: the scene. I think we've talked about this multiple times. 185 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 2: He's going to be watched way more than most other 186 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 2: new managers right now. But Blake view Terra microscope versus 187 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 2: Tony Vaitello right now is going to be a little 188 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 2: bit different. 189 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: But he's not making those decisions on his own. Like 190 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 1: I think sometimes fans go the manager what an idiot? Rarely, 191 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: the manager is not really the one. Like a good 192 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: bench coach. If you watch a game, a good bench 193 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: coach is rarely watching intently each pitch. A good bench 194 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: coach is seeing how things are flowing. They're they're just 195 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: seeing the flow of the game. They're seeing what a 196 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: pitcher's stuff looks like compared to the swings that the 197 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: hitters are taking and say, hey, you know what, we 198 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: have three hitters away. We got a lefty that's crushed 199 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: this guy. Historically, a manager makes the move, but and 200 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: he has to be on top of it. The bench 201 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: coach can't miss a beat because when the manager misses beat, 202 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: the bench coach or in Vytello's case, a lot of 203 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: the other coaches around them, they got to be They 204 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: got to be locked in. It's not like it's not 205 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: just well, you know what, I'm on the staff and 206 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. That's not my that's not my 207 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: area expertise. You know, everybody pitches in. The manager is 208 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: the one that gets the gets the blame when it 209 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: goes well. But he doesn't he doesn't stand on an 210 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: island and make all these decisions on his own. 211 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 2: All right, well said, Let's move to the next topic here, 212 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 2: and it's about the influx of extensions that have been 213 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 2: coming our way since the season started. Here's a tweet 214 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 2: from Buster Only about what he's seeing right now. Aja 215 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 2: Only not posey this time. There's the expectation among many 216 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 2: industry sources that the aggressiveness of some teams to sign 217 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 2: players will continue with the anticipation that if there is 218 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 2: a salary cap in the future, any deal signed before 219 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 2: December one might have to be grant bothered into the 220 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 2: next system smart too. Yeah to me, I get a 221 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 2: little bit of that. But for the most part, AJ, 222 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 2: we don't know what's going to happen. It's hard. I 223 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 2: know that teams have some insight and they can utilize 224 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 2: what their ownership is telling them as they'll be part 225 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 2: of the labor negotiations. But do you really think that's 226 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 2: what's leading to more signings, especially the younger guys right now. 227 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 4: No, they're trying to get good deals. They're trying to 228 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 4: get good deals. 229 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, let's. 230 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 4: Be serious, they're not. I mean, yes, there's be a 231 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 4: piece of it. Yeah, but they're trying to get good deals. 232 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 4: They're trying to get value. They're not They're looking at 233 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 4: and saying, man, if we can get this guy for cheap, 234 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 4: we'll take him for cheap over someone we're gonna have 235 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 4: to pay way more to. This is a good business 236 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 4: play by the owners. I like it. 237 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: It maye come up with an idea probably completely off 238 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: topic of this, but what if what if they don't, 239 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: Because I don't think we're gonna get a salar cap. Like, 240 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: the salar CAP's not the answer. 241 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 3: I get it. 242 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball's pushing it. They're getting their people who 243 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: think it's a great idea, fan blah blah blah, all 244 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: that stuff. But what if a team doesn't have to 245 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: pay the full luxury tax if you keep one of 246 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: your stars. So let's say you're one year from free 247 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: agency and now all of a sudden, you're making teams 248 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: pay top dollar for a guy who's gonna be a 249 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: free agent, but his salary does not go against the 250 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: soft salary cap that we already have. But if you 251 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: don't keep a guy, now you have some kind of 252 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: penalties at your floor. 253 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 2: It's the inside Scoop. It's presented by a game changer, 254 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 2: and Ken Rosenthal is joining us live on the field 255 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: in Cleveland for their home opener. Ken, great to see you, 256 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 2: and I'm going to start with the headliner, that is 257 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 2: Connor Griffin debut day. So what do you have for 258 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 2: us on that? And how do we like awkwardly mention 259 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: that he pretty much has an extension but they have 260 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 2: to wait to make it super official. 261 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 5: Well, it's interesting, Scott, I don't know that he totally 262 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 5: has an extension yet, but certainly in which like it's 263 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 5: going to happen. And yes, they have to wait until 264 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 5: at he makes his debut. Otherwise the Pirates cannot qualify 265 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 5: for the Prospect Promotion incentic pick, which they will get 266 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 5: if he wins reached me the year. They have to 267 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 5: vote it him in time to do that they'll get 268 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 5: a full year of service. 269 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 3: So that's one element of this. And I saw Eric. 270 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 5: Talking yesterday about how the Pirates de lead this simply 271 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 5: to get the excitement. 272 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 3: Around the home. Oden's ridiculous. 273 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 5: I would agree with Eric on that, and I know 274 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 5: their party line was, well, send him down. 275 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 3: We wanted him to relax a little bit. Okay, how 276 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 3: much can we relax and a leaking put away or whatever. 277 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 5: And then so in any case, the right thing has 278 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 5: happened here, and I opposed there were the Pirates did 279 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 5: with Faulse schemes. 280 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 3: If you remember, they didn't. 281 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 5: Get the draft pick because they brought him up too late, 282 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 5: and ultimately he got to pull your service anyway, because 283 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 5: they were Brookie of the Year. This will be a 284 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 5: better outcome for them, especially should they get that extension done, 285 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 5: which the entire industry pretty much expects to happen. 286 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 4: Ken, can anyone prove that they did this for the 287 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 4: reason of the extension? If he's how long do they 288 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 4: have to wait to announce this extension, because obviously there 289 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 4: are people that have already said, Hey, this extensions done. 290 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 4: Then they can't take their tweet back and say, oh no, 291 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 4: I rued it wrong. 292 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 3: Right? 293 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 4: But can MLB prove that this extension was done and 294 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 4: that's why he got called up? 295 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 3: I don't believe that will happen. 296 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 5: Maybe prove it somehow, Hey, Dave bud as long as 297 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 5: it's not signed and delivered before he makes his debut, 298 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 5: the pirates will be fine. 299 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 3: So we've seen this before Christian Panama last year. Is 300 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 3: an extension get agreed upon before he made his debut? 301 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 3: I would guess that it probably happened that way. So 302 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 3: they do this for a reason. 303 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 5: I'm not quite sure what the reason is actually why 304 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 5: you need to delay and extensions for PPI eligibility, But 305 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 5: that is the way the. 306 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 3: Rule currently has written. Maybe it changes in the next DBA. 307 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: All right, well, how about where does this debut rank 308 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: in the sense of, like, we're still in the hoopla. 309 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: You're an opening day in Cleveland, so there's still hoopla 310 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: around opening days, not home open I mean home openers 311 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: instead of opening day. But yesterday we had JJ Cooper 312 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: on and he said, this is possibly one of the 313 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: biggest debuts since Steven Strasburg. Where would you rank this 314 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: in the ones that you've seen in your time writing? 315 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 3: I would agree with JD that this is the big one. 316 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 5: And I remember vlad Judew's debut that was big two 317 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 5: in Toronto. And I'm sure I could think of a 318 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 5: number of others and not call victims of recency bias, 319 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 5: but this. 320 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 3: Is a really big deal and I've written it. Guys. 321 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 3: Other teams believe that from. 322 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 5: The standpoint of thirt plus value, that the Pirates have 323 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 5: the most valuable picture in the game. It's most teams 324 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 5: and the most valuable positioning player in the game in 325 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 5: Connor Griffin, even though Griffin has. 326 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 3: Yet to play a major League game. 327 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 5: And when you talk about surt plus value, what are 328 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 5: you talking about talking about salary? Of course, you're talking 329 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 5: about years of service, and for both these guys, even 330 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 5: those schemes, of course, that's a couple of years of service. 331 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 5: Now he's still an extremely valuable player and team to 332 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 5: see Griffin in much the same way. 333 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 3: They believe he's going to be. 334 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 5: One of the top shortstops in the game right. 335 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 3: Away, at least in terms of what are the able 336 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 3: to bring to this team. 337 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 5: If that happened, it's transformative for the franchise and it 338 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 5: would be really cool to sing. 339 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 4: Ken your recent article, you wrote teams under pressure? Were 340 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 4: the Pirates under pressure to call Connor Griffin? Were the 341 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 4: Pirates under pressure to win this year? And what are 342 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 4: the other teams that you think that are under pressure 343 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 4: to perform this year? 344 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 5: I don't know that I would say the Pirates are 345 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 5: under the same kind of pressure as say the Mets 346 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 5: right aja, It's different. 347 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 3: It's a different market. The New York teams are always 348 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 3: under pressure. Boston is a high intensity market. Philadelphia a 349 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 3: high and density market. And I wrote about the Giants. 350 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 5: Simply because they've hired by Tello, They've spent some money, 351 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 5: they've taken some risks, and yet they're coming off four 352 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 5: mediocre seasons in a row, and that's why, in my view, 353 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 5: they have to take a step forward here. The Pirates 354 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 5: are a little bit different in that they seem to 355 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 5: operate at times in their own universe, and their owners 356 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 5: certainly seems to operate at times in his own universe. 357 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 3: They have taken steps to threct that this year. 358 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 5: Remember they brought in a zoon, and they brought in 359 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 5: Brandon Loud, They've brought. 360 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 3: In Ryan O'Hearn. They have this tremendous young pitching staff. 361 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 5: So their ind is for the first time we're seeing 362 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 5: in a wild urgency there. And the promotion of Griffin 363 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 5: reflects that there was a certain extent, of course, to 364 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 5: be a promoted the week earlier, you would say that 365 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 5: was an even more origin act. But at least they 366 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 5: got to the right place here. And honestly, guys, I 367 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 5: saw someone poke this on next this morning. What was 368 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 5: the last time all of us were kind of excited 369 00:17:58,520 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 5: to watch the Pirates? 370 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 3: And I believe that is where we all are right now. 371 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: If we can go to Boston and their pressure talking 372 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 1: about how you know, maybe maybe maybe Cora and Breslo 373 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 1: are not necessarily under pressure to lose their jobs, but 374 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: is that fair when you talk about you just talked 375 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 1: about young teams and some of the young teams and 376 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 1: have you're talking to Boston team that has Carmell, Anthony, 377 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: Anthony Rum and Anthony is young. Marcela Meyers Young saidam 378 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: Raphaela william A Brad You all guys with. 379 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 3: Under three years of service time their youth. 380 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 1: Is that fair to have pressure in those types of 381 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: situation when you still have young guys learning in the 382 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 1: big leagues? 383 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 3: There all kinds of pressure, as you know. 384 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 5: And in the case of Boston, when I say, or 385 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 5: anyone said, there's pressure on that team, that's inherent to 386 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 5: the market. There's always pressure in Boston, and it's also 387 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 5: inherent to the way the ownership has operated over the 388 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 5: past several years. Remember what they did now they endeavors 389 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 5: to open up a spot for Bregman. Then they lost 390 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 5: Fregman in free agency and they never really replaced that's 391 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 5: veteran presence. Yes, they brought in Wilson Contraras, and he's 392 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 5: really good, no question. 393 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 3: But at the same time, it's not Gregmans, it's not Devers. 394 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 5: It's an older guy who is probably kind of starting to. 395 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 3: The client phase of his career. 396 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 5: So the pressure there is more from fans on ownership 397 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 5: and not necessarily on the young player. No, we can't 398 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 5: expect Roman Anthony to be David Ortiz, But in my opinion, 399 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 5: they're kind of asking him the franchise is to be 400 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 5: that kind of player, that kind of impact because of 401 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 5: what they put around him. 402 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: All Right, you talked about San Francisco and the pressure 403 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: in San Francisco. You also said about how they're essentially 404 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 1: a five hundred team in their last four years. Is 405 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: it I guess I keep saying is it fair? But 406 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: I mean pressure when you're in a big market. Is 407 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: what you're signing up for? Or is it more? Is 408 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: it a successful season for the Giants if they finish 409 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: at five hundred again where they have finished, even under 410 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: Tony Vaytello, who's learning to coach and manage one hundred 411 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 1: more games than he ever has with players that have 412 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: never even you know that he's never coached this type 413 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 1: of player before. 414 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 5: Yes, Eric, it depends how the season goes. But this 415 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 5: is the team that just fired a three time manager 416 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 5: of the Year because they finished five hundred. It's Bob Melbourne. 417 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 5: So clearly they're expecting more than five hundred. That's why 418 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 5: they hired Tony Bytello. So in my opinion, five hundred 419 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 5: will not be good enough. But I can't see how 420 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 5: the Giants can view it is good enough when they 421 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 5: made the nagerial change in part because of the way 422 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 5: they ended up last year. Now if they finished five 423 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 5: hundred because they had a series of injuries and ultimately 424 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 5: they made progress under by Tello, all good. And actually 425 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 5: I kind of like a couple of things I've seen 426 00:20:58,840 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 5: with by Tello this week. 427 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 3: He's stuck with. 428 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,959 Speaker 6: Logan Web, when logan Web was struggling, he pulled them 429 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 6: only the other day, and then last night backing up 430 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 6: Robbie Ray with Walker, who was normally his closure. 431 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 5: I thought that was cool and that showed something. So 432 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 5: we obviously need to give him time to can evaluate 433 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 5: him at all. Well, yes, they definitely want to finish 434 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 5: above five hundred, and I don't know that they will 435 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 5: consider the five hundred of success. 436 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 2: Ken, you were just with Vitello the other day. What's 437 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 2: he been like now that he's in the big leagues, 438 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 2: Because I feel like I see a quote go viral 439 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 2: from him almost every day right now. He's brought up 440 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,959 Speaker 2: Tiger Woods, he's brought up Kanye. I mean, he's like 441 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 2: a cultural phenomenon in some ways in our sport compared 442 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 2: to how most managers speak and relate to media and fans. 443 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 3: Do you agree, I would totally agree with that. He's 444 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 3: for us is a breath of fresh air. Now I'm 445 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 3: going to translate. Who knows. 446 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 5: And obviously you want your manager to be good with 447 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 5: the media. 448 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 3: That's one criteria that teams use when they hire them. 449 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 3: They want him to be able to communicate twice a 450 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 3: day with the media. But ultimately you need him to be. 451 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 5: The leader of the team and the leader in the 452 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 5: clubouts and all that. That's much more important than how 453 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 5: he speaks to the media. Now, there was a situation 454 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 5: early in the season when they went on too and 455 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 5: he said, hey, I gave him a fire and brimstone 456 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,719 Speaker 5: speech right before the season started. I might have been 457 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 5: mistaken there, might have made them tight. And in that case, 458 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 5: it kind of went too far. And the players they 459 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 5: didn't roll their eyes to se but they basically did 460 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 5: let them roll into we're good. So he's going to 461 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 5: have his adjustments with that. But yes, Scott, for sure, 462 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 5: he has been quite quote of. 463 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 4: Us Ken, what about the Mets. Are the Mets? How 464 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 4: much pressure of the Mets? The Mets haven't exactly gone 465 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 4: off to a great start. Their offense hasn't been very 466 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 4: good at all, whether it's Sime and lindor whoever you 467 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 4: want to throw out there is not doing great. Their 468 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 4: pitching hasn't been great. What are the Mets feeling right now? 469 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 5: They're in a huge pressure and there's a lot of 470 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 5: different pressure points there. One on the new players to 471 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 5: perform with Chad Alanko all the guys. 472 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 3: That they brought in. 473 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 5: Two on the manager, Carlos Mendoza. They changed a lot 474 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 5: of coaches last off season, and usually that is the 475 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 5: precursor to a manager will change if things don't go well. 476 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 5: And then three, I'm David Stearns, the president of Baseball Operation, 477 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 5: because he was the architect of what they've done. 478 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 3: Now it's a week and I. 479 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 5: Saw somebody point out that they started three and three 480 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 5: in some of their better years and there's no way 481 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 5: to judge them right now. And in fact, I wrote 482 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 5: this and I believed it. I feel it might take 483 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 5: with this team a little bit more time to jail then. 484 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 3: Maybe other teams. They have so many new players, so 485 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 3: many new coaches. 486 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 5: There's a lot going on there and it just might 487 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 5: take them time to get comfortable with each other. 488 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 3: And just play to their potentials. So I'm not necessarily 489 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 3: surprised by this. I'm not necessarily sorry buy it. At 490 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 3: the same time, yeah, there's pressure, there's sure. 491 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 5: It's New York and it's a team that underachieved in 492 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 5: a massive way, almost a historic way, last off season, 493 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 5: last season. 494 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 2: Hey, Ken, let's finish with this because we're talking about 495 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 2: some teams with pressure after one week of the season. 496 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 2: How about a team that I don't feel like. We 497 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 2: talked about a ton heading into this season and they 498 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 2: were placed in you know, many predictions and power rankings, 499 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 2: kind of like mid range ish. The Houston Astros are 500 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 2: off to a five and two start. You're a Don 501 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 2: Alvarez looks very very good, pitching staff holding up the 502 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 2: whole deal. Haters not even back yet. I know Parates 503 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 2: doesn't have a full time spot with Painya coming back, 504 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 2: but that's some helpful depth. What do you think of 505 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 2: the first week of the astrospressive? 506 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 5: No question, Scott, And remember they lost their first two 507 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 5: to the Angels, and since then they've won five straight, 508 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 5: averaging almost nine runs per game. 509 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,479 Speaker 3: So offensively they're in a really good spot. 510 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 5: Their rotation should be improved with Burrows and am I 511 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 5: and once Hater gets back, their bullpen will be in 512 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 5: a good place as well. So the biggest thing facing 513 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 5: that right now is the question of how Paradus fits 514 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 5: now that Jeremy Payne will be back to being an 515 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 5: everyday player. Remember, you've been kind of in and out 516 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 5: of the lineup while getting. 517 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 3: Rid getting the covered from that anger. So they're gonna 518 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 3: have to deal with that, no question. 519 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 5: And this is the team also with pressure because the 520 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 5: general manager and the manager Dana Brown and Joe. 521 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 3: Spada, both in the final years of their contracts. But 522 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 3: still the Astros, they have. 523 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 5: That incredible ethic about them, just the whole way they 524 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 5: go about it. 525 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 3: They know how to win. We've seen it year after 526 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 3: year after year. 527 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 2: Ken, Thank you, good stuff, Enjoy the home opener and 528 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 2: there and then what you have Cubs Guardians tomorrow on. 529 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 3: Fox Up, Guardians tomorrow on Fox Perfect. 530 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 2: We'll see you on there. Thanks Ken. Thanks, that's Ken 531 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 2: Rosendal at Senior Insider with the Inside Scoop. And the 532 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 2: Inside Scoop is presented by Game Changer. 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