WEBVTT - Do What You Want with Your Thumbs

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<v Speaker 1>Hell I Suck at Dating with Dean, Vanessa and Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>and I Heart Radio podcast. Welcome, Welcome back to a

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<v Speaker 1>whole new episode of Help I Suck a Dating. You

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<v Speaker 1>are joined today, but only one third of the host

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<v Speaker 1>so myself, Vanessa Jared is in Capris. I believe Dean

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<v Speaker 1>is in Croatia, so they're on the other end of

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<v Speaker 1>the world. But I'm joining studio by Mark and Easton.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you guys for not ditching me today. Well believe

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<v Speaker 1>if we're a chance to go to either of those places,

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<v Speaker 1>we'd be there. I know. Well, I'm in my bedroom

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<v Speaker 1>right now, calling in from my little studio here, and

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<v Speaker 1>we have actually great episode. UM. Last time I did

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<v Speaker 1>a solo episode, it was a girl talk Brandy Cyrus

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<v Speaker 1>came in to help me co host UM. And today

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<v Speaker 1>we have Ernestine Slefanie Bayliss, who's here to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>her new book. And if you're dating someone who's obsessed

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<v Speaker 1>with sports, you're gonna want to listen to this UM.

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<v Speaker 1>But first I kind of want to just give a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of UM an update on my life. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I talked about my life all the time on the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>but ten months ago that's when I did my solo

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<v Speaker 1>episode called Girl Talk. Brandy Cyrus was on and she

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<v Speaker 1>was also single, and I was talking about how a

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<v Speaker 1>guy had just kind of ended a relationship with me,

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<v Speaker 1>or quote unquote a relationship. I was like dating him

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<v Speaker 1>long distance. Mark had asked me about babies. I started

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<v Speaker 1>crying because I thought, I'm never gonna find anyone. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to be single for the rest of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have to freeze my eggs. And ten months

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<v Speaker 1>ago that was going through my head. I was single.

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<v Speaker 1>I was, I will admit it. I was desperate. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was the end of the world that I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't going to find someone who wanted the same things

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<v Speaker 1>as I did. Brandy had moved. I think she had

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<v Speaker 1>just moved to Member at that point. A. K. Denver

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<v Speaker 1>Um because she was also fed up of like being single,

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<v Speaker 1>and she recently announced that she's in a relationship. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is not to like talk about, oh look at us,

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<v Speaker 1>we're in a relationship. This is really to give hope

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<v Speaker 1>for people who did tune in to that episode and

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<v Speaker 1>are now listening to this episode and to see that

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<v Speaker 1>you know there is hope and that you will find someone.

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<v Speaker 1>Um and if you are going through a heartbreak right now,

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<v Speaker 1>it's totally normal to feel like it's the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the world, that there is no hope, that you're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to find the person that you have in mind,

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<v Speaker 1>and so on and so forth. But first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>the person that you have in mind, and this idea

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<v Speaker 1>of this like perfect soulmate doesn't exist right Like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying that my boyfriend now is not perfect, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's perfect in my eyes, and he's perfect in the

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<v Speaker 1>relationship that I have with him because we built the

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<v Speaker 1>relationship that we want to have together. So I actually

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<v Speaker 1>took the liberty to write down five things that I

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<v Speaker 1>feel and no particular order either, five things that I

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<v Speaker 1>feel are important to have in a relationship. And these

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<v Speaker 1>are things that I've learned throughout the last ten months,

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<v Speaker 1>um so from the last episode that I did called

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<v Speaker 1>girl Talk on the podcast. So these are five things

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<v Speaker 1>that I came up with. So Number one, when you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking for a partner, um, a soulmate, whatever you want

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<v Speaker 1>to call them, find someone who is able I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know if I'm able to work the word, but willing,

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<v Speaker 1>someone who's willing to work on things and work things

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<v Speaker 1>through and put in efforts. So whether that means I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like we live in an age right now where

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<v Speaker 1>it's so easy to i don't know, get distracted by

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram or get distracted by a dating app, or everything

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<v Speaker 1>is so fast paced and it's like, oh, next, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want this. Next, I don't want this. It's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like uber eats, right, like you're looking at all

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<v Speaker 1>the food and you're like, oh, let me pick the

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<v Speaker 1>best thing that has like five stars. So it's the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing when it comes to dating, Like everything is

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<v Speaker 1>very much fast paced, but you want to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to find someone who's kind of like old school and

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to work on things when things get tough. Because

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<v Speaker 1>in a relationship, I mean, Mark, you've been married for

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<v Speaker 1>how many years? Just a few weeks ago? Oh wow, okay, congratulations,

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<v Speaker 1>so seventeen years, um, happy anniversary. So there's there's ups

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<v Speaker 1>and downs in a relationship. And I remember like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of doing a diagram of what a relationship looks like,

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<v Speaker 1>and the first like to three years, it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like a roller coaster. It's like going up

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<v Speaker 1>because you're like getting to know about each other. It's

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<v Speaker 1>still fairly new and then it keeps going up because

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<v Speaker 1>you get engaged and that's like another exciting thing that happens.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you have a wedding to plan, so the

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<v Speaker 1>roller coaster keeps going up. And then you get married

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<v Speaker 1>and it's very exciting, and then you have a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very exciting. And then like at one point, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>your relationship or marriage kind of goes flat, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>that's okay. And I feel like it's it's a stage

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<v Speaker 1>in a relationship where a lot of people fear. It's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't it keep going up? Like why isn't the

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<v Speaker 1>roller coaster keep going up? And it's okay for it

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<v Speaker 1>to get flat, because that means as long as it's

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<v Speaker 1>flat at a happy point, right, not your lowest point

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<v Speaker 1>in the relationship, because that means that you're just unhappy.

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<v Speaker 1>But in order to make a relationship last, you need

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<v Speaker 1>to partners that are willing to make it work, whether

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<v Speaker 1>that's finding out that you need individual therapy or that

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<v Speaker 1>you need to go to a couples therapy together, or

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<v Speaker 1>that you want to talk about your emotions and not

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<v Speaker 1>suppress your feelings so that you later on resent the person.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I remember I had dated someone who um did

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<v Speaker 1>not like a certain job that I was doing and

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<v Speaker 1>basically gave me an ultimatum. Was like, well, I it's

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<v Speaker 1>either me or the job type of thing, and I

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<v Speaker 1>quit the job at that point. Yeah, And at that

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<v Speaker 1>I remember crying so much and remember thinking like, why

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<v Speaker 1>am I crying for? If this is what I want?

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<v Speaker 1>If this is the guy that I want to be

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<v Speaker 1>dating and married to. Who gives you about the job.

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<v Speaker 1>But at that point, when I was in my twenties,

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<v Speaker 1>that was like my little brain thinking like, oh, everything

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<v Speaker 1>should be revolved around the person I'm dating. And this

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<v Speaker 1>goes to my next point. Can you say what it

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<v Speaker 1>was about your job that he objected to? So I

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<v Speaker 1>was hosting some TV shows and he just didn't like

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that I guess it was like some guy interaction.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not really like there was no guy. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not like I'm making out with a host, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, Like you're hosting. I was hosting like

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<v Speaker 1>a little, very little show in Montreal. That's some deeper

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<v Speaker 1>security on his part. I think that's a real red flag.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, just what you're saying, you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>it needs a dual mindset. That you are in this

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<v Speaker 1>for the long haul and that the relationship is worth

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<v Speaker 1>fighting for because it is very easy to just walk away.

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<v Speaker 1>And I found that in my marriage that in our

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<v Speaker 1>there we bicker, sometimes you fight, sometimes it's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been together twenty two years, but it's a mindset.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a long term mindset that we're in this forever.

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<v Speaker 1>And so if there's these years that we need to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out, we got to figure them out because we're

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<v Speaker 1>not going anywhere. That's what you're looking for, right And

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<v Speaker 1>if you're if you're like me and you're the type

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<v Speaker 1>of person that has them mindset from early on in

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<v Speaker 1>a relationship and you're dating someone who doesn't, then like

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard to to make that work. And a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of my relationships post and pre Bachelor were like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And now that I'm eating someone who's so I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like calling its old school, but he has that old

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<v Speaker 1>school mentality where it's like, no, we're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>break up because we're arguing, and even if like you're

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<v Speaker 1>arguing about like stupidities for a week or whatever, like

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to get through this. Let's like figure out

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<v Speaker 1>a way to resolve this conflict. Just the other day

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<v Speaker 1>she said, I was married to you long before I

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<v Speaker 1>was actually married to you. Ah, I love that. I

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<v Speaker 1>love that thing. I love that. So I a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>percent agree with that. That's how I feel too. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, that could really scare some people away.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true. But it's but and so you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to make a big deal out of it, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's a long term mindset. It doesn't mean I'm

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely going to marry you. Who knows what's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm that committed to you. I'm that level of

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<v Speaker 1>commitment on. My mind's not straying, my eyes aren't straying.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all yours. Yes, I love that. And so this

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<v Speaker 1>goes to my next point when I talk about qualities.

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<v Speaker 1>So again this is like not professional advice. He's just

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<v Speaker 1>things that I've wrote down. So write down what your

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<v Speaker 1>qualities are like. I don't know if the word is qualities,

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<v Speaker 1>like qualities like for me, like I love laughing. Would

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<v Speaker 1>that be a quality or things I like to do?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe things I like to do like I love I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I love laughing. I used to like working out, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I love spending time with my family. I love spending

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<v Speaker 1>time with my friends, And are you still doing these

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<v Speaker 1>things while you're in a relationship. So this is a

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<v Speaker 1>holding yourself accountable to not losing yourself in a relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's something that I would do in former in

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<v Speaker 1>other relationships. And b are you not doing these things

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<v Speaker 1>because the person that you're with is making you so

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<v Speaker 1>unhappy that it's taking you away from the things that

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<v Speaker 1>you love doing. M That's something that I realized about

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<v Speaker 1>some former relationships of mine. And I'm kind of in Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of a point in my life right now

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<v Speaker 1>where I work a lot from home. My boyfriend has

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<v Speaker 1>his job and he leaves the house and I work

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<v Speaker 1>from my record my podcast from my bedroom, so everything

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<v Speaker 1>that I do is from home. And oftentimes I've realized, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I have not left my house all day, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>eleven o'clock at night, and it gets very sad and

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<v Speaker 1>very lonely and very depressing because I'm constantly either on

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<v Speaker 1>my phone on my computer, and I'm not doing a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of face to face conversations like I'm calling in,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not talking to anyone like I'm talking to

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, through the screen. So I found myself in

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<v Speaker 1>a place right now where I remember on Sunday, I

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<v Speaker 1>got really mad and I'm like, I'm going for a

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<v Speaker 1>walk and he's like, why are you upset for. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I just I'm bored. I'm bored. We're

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<v Speaker 1>always home, We're never doing anything. And he's like, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not true. Right now, you're just projecting all of this,

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<v Speaker 1>like what you're going through in your personal life into

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<v Speaker 1>the relationship. So I and he put me into my

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<v Speaker 1>He put me in my place, and he's like, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>hold yourself accountable. You know you love working out, Go

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<v Speaker 1>work out. You know you love hanging out with your friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Spend more time with your friends, like make that conscious effort.

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<v Speaker 1>Another piece of advice is no what your non negotiables are,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you're someone that just really wants to be

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<v Speaker 1>in a relationship, sometimes you might overlook things in the

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<v Speaker 1>guy or things that you know you like hold really

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<v Speaker 1>dear and close to your heart. But you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>but this guy really likes me. Let me ignore some

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<v Speaker 1>of the signs. So what are your core values that

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<v Speaker 1>are your non negotiables? So for me, kids is number

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<v Speaker 1>one I will not date a guy who doesn't want

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<v Speaker 1>kids or it's not open to the idea of wanting kids. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you're someone that's very religious, so then you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>want to date someone who's open to the same religion

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<v Speaker 1>that you're in, or having family time, or even a

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<v Speaker 1>little things like if you're someone that wants a specific

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<v Speaker 1>kind of lifestyle, make sure that you're with someone that's

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<v Speaker 1>able to want the same things as you do, because

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<v Speaker 1>if not, that's going to be that level of resentment like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not giving me what I need or you're not

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<v Speaker 1>giving me what I want. But if that's not what

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<v Speaker 1>he's capable of giving you, then you need to look

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<v Speaker 1>elsewhere type of thing. Does that make sense? It does

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<v Speaker 1>make sense. I would warrant not to have too long

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<v Speaker 1>a lift of deal breakers because sometimes you evolve and

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<v Speaker 1>you change and you find the guy that doesn't check

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<v Speaker 1>every box, but it turns out he's the guy. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think I've checked all of my wife's boxes when

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<v Speaker 1>we first met, but but we became inseparable, uhh and

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<v Speaker 1>listen and those but the non negotiables for me basically

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<v Speaker 1>have one. It's kids, Like I don't really need to

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<v Speaker 1>be with someone that doesn't want to get married. I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to make sure that you want to procreate.

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<v Speaker 1>And the non negotiables that I had in my twenties

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<v Speaker 1>and versus my thirties kind of changed. In my twenties,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, I was the typical like anyone that's listening

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<v Speaker 1>from Montreal. I didn't want to leave my mom's air,

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<v Speaker 1>like wherever my mom lived. I wanted to buy a

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<v Speaker 1>house near my mom. I wanted kind of like the

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<v Speaker 1>same lifestyle. And now I'm like living in the city

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm in my thirties, and like, I would not

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<v Speaker 1>have wanted what I had wanted in my twenties because

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<v Speaker 1>I was kind of wanting the same things. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>my family was projecting onto me. And now that I've

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<v Speaker 1>moved out of the suburbs, and like, that's not what

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted. Okay, couldn't an argument to not have a

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<v Speaker 1>list of deal breakers if that list is going to

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<v Speaker 1>change any way throughout your life, right, But that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. So there's things that are deal breakers, which

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<v Speaker 1>are my non negotiables a wanting kids, and then there's

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<v Speaker 1>that's never going to change, And then there's the negotiables, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the ones that you're like, I'm willing to compromise on it. Right. So,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think when you're twenty, it's a long list,

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<v Speaker 1>and then when you're thirty it's a shorter list, and

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<v Speaker 1>then when you're forty, it's getting pretty short because you

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<v Speaker 1>realize that well, I mean, perhaps there's a level of

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<v Speaker 1>desire just for that person, but also there's a level

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<v Speaker 1>of you know what, there's a lot of people in

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<v Speaker 1>the world. It's a very diverse, wonderful world, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I can get to know we can come together on

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<v Speaker 1>certain things. So, like I said, yeah, the non negotiables

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<v Speaker 1>and then the ones that you're willing to to to

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<v Speaker 1>negotiate and to compromise on. So yeah, definitely do not

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<v Speaker 1>I'm echoing what you said, do not have a long list,

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<v Speaker 1>but just know, like what are your like, who are

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<v Speaker 1>you as a person, And obviously certain things can be

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<v Speaker 1>compromise versus others that you're like, no, this is what

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<v Speaker 1>I want, and I know, you know, like I know

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<v Speaker 1>I want kids, and I know I need to be

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<v Speaker 1>with someone that has kids. And my last one is,

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<v Speaker 1>which might be a hard one, is to encourage each

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<v Speaker 1>other too. How can I put this. So let's say Mark,

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<v Speaker 1>you one day wake up and you're like, you know what, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not a DJ, but okay, fine. Like you wake

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<v Speaker 1>up and you're like, you tell your wife, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to become a DJ, and you want to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you're with a partner who's going to encourage you to

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<v Speaker 1>do and have healthy goals. Right. So, I I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>firm believer that I think our educational system is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of back where it's like at sixteen years old, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not really reasonable to think, oh, I want to become

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<v Speaker 1>this in my you know, when I'm in my twenties

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<v Speaker 1>and in my thirties and so I'm gonna go to

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<v Speaker 1>university to study this. You can change your career path

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<v Speaker 1>at any stage in your life, so you're not stuck

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<v Speaker 1>to in doing the things you're doing in your twenties

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<v Speaker 1>or your thirties or your forties. You could be doing

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<v Speaker 1>something in your twenties and you graduate to something bigger

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<v Speaker 1>in your thirties or something completely different. And I'm someone

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<v Speaker 1>who's very much I like to be multi faceted, So

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<v Speaker 1>I like doing different things all at once, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I want to make sure that I have a partner

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<v Speaker 1>who's gonna encourage me to follow some of my goals

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<v Speaker 1>that are healthy, not like, oh, I'm gonna become a

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<v Speaker 1>clown today, Like that's not really reasonable where I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to really make a lifestyle. I really did actually

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to join to clown college. He encourage you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>he probably want that thing. He's so sweet. Um So

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<v Speaker 1>those aren't my top four things that I learned in

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<v Speaker 1>the last ten months of dating Tories and studio tories

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<v Speaker 1>or other producer. Are you in a relationship? No, but

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<v Speaker 1>I am kind of talking to someone, Okay. So I

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<v Speaker 1>had reached out to Instagram and I told some of

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<v Speaker 1>my followers. While I told my followers, and some of

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<v Speaker 1>the followers did reply ask me certain questions or topics

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<v Speaker 1>that you want to talk about on the podcast, And

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<v Speaker 1>some of them had asked, how do you know that

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<v Speaker 1>the person that you're dating is someone that you want

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<v Speaker 1>to date long term? This is everything I needed to discuss.

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<v Speaker 1>So this person that I'm talking to is long distance,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's really hard for me. I'm like starting to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like think about him, and I don't do

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<v Speaker 1>well with like codependency like that terrifies me and I

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<v Speaker 1>think when somebody starts to make me feel like they're

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<v Speaker 1>not like affecting your mother. But you're like, oh, like

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of hate that, I'm like thinking about you,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's is that a waste of time? Like I

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<v Speaker 1>really fight things on that in my brain because I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't want somebody to ever determine how my like

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<v Speaker 1>day goes. So if you're like, oh, he's like taking

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<v Speaker 1>a long time to respond back, I'm fine, I'm cool. No,

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<v Speaker 1>everything's great, but like it's really not, so I hate

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<v Speaker 1>to start to feel that way. So then now I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so hard because long distance you can don't really

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<v Speaker 1>have the quality time needed to progress to know, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to keep spending time with you, and

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<v Speaker 1>we have face times and they're like great, but you

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<v Speaker 1>don't get to see somebody's really true character when you're

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<v Speaker 1>face timing. So now I'm like, is this worth investing in? Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm still like going on data with other people,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's it's like hard because you're like like do

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<v Speaker 1>I need to just kind of like let this one go?

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<v Speaker 1>But then why am I thinking about him? But then

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<v Speaker 1>if he's long distance and I don't really get to

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<v Speaker 1>see those moments of just kind of I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>the moment you need to see if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>keep progressing or not. So that's why I am having

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<v Speaker 1>a hard time relating to maybe what yours were, because

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<v Speaker 1>I am like in the midst of it, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it is you guys met in person. Yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well that's that's a good stuff. Um So in relation

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<v Speaker 1>to your code dependency, I totally agree. But there's just

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<v Speaker 1>one quote. I don't remember who said it, and I

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<v Speaker 1>want to read it to you into anyone listening. If

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<v Speaker 1>you suffer, it is because of you. If you feel blissful,

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<v Speaker 1>it is because of you. Nobody else is responsible, only

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<v Speaker 1>you and you alone. You are your hell and your

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<v Speaker 1>heaven too. And it's so true because when you're when

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<v Speaker 1>you're I remember saying, like, I love being single. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I'm my best self when I'm single, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy, like no one could ruin my mood. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not dependent on anyone else's people responding to me or

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<v Speaker 1>not responding to me, or how they react to something

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<v Speaker 1>that I do or say, and how that's gonna affect

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<v Speaker 1>my day to day. But at the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>day after I read this quote, I'm like, it is

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<v Speaker 1>so true. No one else has control of your emotions,

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<v Speaker 1>no one else has control of your brain. You go

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<v Speaker 1>to bed with yourself and you wake up with yourself

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<v Speaker 1>every single morning. So you should never allow which is

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<v Speaker 1>so easy to say it, right, but having that balance

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<v Speaker 1>of understanding if someone is not responding to you, or

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<v Speaker 1>they respond to you like in a way that you

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<v Speaker 1>don't you didn't expect. I mean, that's something that's going

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<v Speaker 1>on with them, you know, like you can't hold that

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<v Speaker 1>energy over yourself and make that ruin your it. It's true.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate that now in technology, we're so affected by

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<v Speaker 1>not just one outlet of like, oh, this guy is

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<v Speaker 1>not taking on a date. I'm okay, well he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>text me back. Okay, well I know he's done with um,

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<v Speaker 1>like his work, so now he why wouldn't he want

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<v Speaker 1>to call me? Or like, okay, we set up a

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<v Speaker 1>FaceTime date, but then he hasn't communicated with me yet

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<v Speaker 1>and when he's going to call me? And I hate

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<v Speaker 1>that now have so many different outlets to be stressed about.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not like I don't really get stressed easily.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I'm having to constantly reroute my mindset, which

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<v Speaker 1>I'm okay with, but it gets really conflicting of being

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm wasting so much energy almost on a situation.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that's worth it because you're a long

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<v Speaker 1>distance and I'm trying to be a team player. But

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<v Speaker 1>it is really hard because you can't be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I really hate when you don't text me back even

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<v Speaker 1>though we've only really hung out for about three weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because I'm like, we're not dating, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>super hard. I know. I remember someone had just recently

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<v Speaker 1>asked me likesa, how did you go on the Bachelor?

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know that he's dating all these other roles.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, but at least I know that he

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<v Speaker 1>has to be dating as you girls like in the

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<v Speaker 1>real world. I don't know, like, how do you know

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<v Speaker 1>when do you ask the person? Are you dating other people?

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<v Speaker 1>Are we going to be exclusive? Is three months too early?

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<v Speaker 1>Is three weeks too early? I know? I think if

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like you're really into this guy, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I love I love doing long distance, I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>do too. I don't like the beginning of it, but

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<v Speaker 1>I do like how we can both be independent with

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<v Speaker 1>our lives. But marking a long distance if there's no

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<v Speaker 1>relationship that has established prior, if you established relationship and

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<v Speaker 1>then you have to be long distance, I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>But starting from a long distance I think is really challenging.

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<v Speaker 1>With no plan for eventual non long distance I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost impossible and we'll get emails marks a jerk

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<v Speaker 1>my husband years we sat a long distance. That's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think the odds are against you. Just over

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<v Speaker 1>here crying, don't d it is a flight, but connecting, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>direct flight, I know you guys, that's really hard from

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<v Speaker 1>X to where he is. Wow, you know I do

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<v Speaker 1>like a prison colony somewhere and it's not. And he

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<v Speaker 1>does not have the easiest schedule ever, especially this time

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<v Speaker 1>of year. Like he got off the plane at like

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<v Speaker 1>two am, and luckily I was packing and um but

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<v Speaker 1>that's like four am two am my time. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's why you went zero dark thirty on me.

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<v Speaker 1>But like, I just need communication, But then again, we're

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<v Speaker 1>so early on I can't be like, hey, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>like how you didn't let me know what you were doing.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I don't want to be that psycho girl.

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<v Speaker 1>This is why I hate dating. This is why I

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<v Speaker 1>suck at dating, and this is why no. See, I

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<v Speaker 1>dated someone long distance and I remember once he uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember where he went. He had to go

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere for work. He boarded his flight, he landed, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I'm like, I didn't hear from him before he

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<v Speaker 1>left while he had like while he was on his flight,

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<v Speaker 1>after he landed, I have no idea where he is,

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<v Speaker 1>if he's safe, he's okay, whatever, And I had given

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<v Speaker 1>him a little I was a little bit passive aggressive

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<v Speaker 1>when he had called me that night and he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's wrong And I'm like, well, you never told me

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<v Speaker 1>when your plane took off, like like there was no

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<v Speaker 1>communication throughout the entire day. He's like, well, why don't

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<v Speaker 1>you just ask me? And I'm like, oh, it's that simple.

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<v Speaker 1>I can just ask you to say these are things

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<v Speaker 1>that I kind of want in our relationship because for

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<v Speaker 1>a long distance and I kind of need this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of communication because it's a different kind of not face

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<v Speaker 1>to face relationship And he's like yeah, and that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>how he ended up making it work for or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>not making a long time but it worked for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm feeling so good about this. You guys, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>question did you know him before? Like going down Mark's thing?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you did you guys set something up prior? And

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<v Speaker 1>I just could never like take a I also feel

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<v Speaker 1>like when you have those moments of face timing someone

0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:06.159
<v Speaker 1>when they're a long distance, you just wanted to be

0:22:06.200 --> 0:22:10.560
<v Speaker 1>fun and great and everything's happy. So like bringing it

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<v Speaker 1>up and being like, hey, um, I don't It's like

0:22:14.960 --> 0:22:17.800
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't even imagine. Obviously I physically could not say

0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:20.280
<v Speaker 1>anything at this point, but I'm like, you need to

0:22:20.320 --> 0:22:22.240
<v Speaker 1>be enjoying it for what it is, and if you're not,

0:22:22.400 --> 0:22:24.080
<v Speaker 1>and it sounds like you're not, but I'm not sure

0:22:24.119 --> 0:22:26.760
<v Speaker 1>what you're doing. No, I do enjoy it adding a

0:22:26.800 --> 0:22:28.919
<v Speaker 1>lot of stress to your life. It's just because I

0:22:29.000 --> 0:22:31.760
<v Speaker 1>don't like codependency. So when I start thinking about someone

0:22:31.800 --> 0:22:33.720
<v Speaker 1>and like, this is such a waste of my time

0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:41.400
<v Speaker 1>to think about, Yeah, it is. It is just probably

0:22:41.560 --> 0:22:44.920
<v Speaker 1>I think you're just scared. Yeah, I think it's fear.

0:22:45.160 --> 0:22:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't like to feel feelings date me everybody. No, Yeah,

0:22:55.040 --> 0:22:56.680
<v Speaker 1>I actually do have to feel like I think I

0:22:57.080 --> 0:22:59.520
<v Speaker 1>actually do have a problem with that. Well, it is

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<v Speaker 1>letting your guard down, which I can do when I've

0:23:02.480 --> 0:23:04.840
<v Speaker 1>talked about it with like other people before, or it's

0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:07.280
<v Speaker 1>like almost comes scripted, where it's not scripted, but it's

0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:08.960
<v Speaker 1>more like, oh, i've talked about this before. I can

0:23:08.960 --> 0:23:11.120
<v Speaker 1>get into that. But when you start to get into

0:23:11.160 --> 0:23:12.879
<v Speaker 1>the things that I don't really want to talk about,

0:23:12.960 --> 0:23:14.879
<v Speaker 1>or the fact that I'm like you actually kind of

0:23:14.920 --> 0:23:17.640
<v Speaker 1>make me sad when you don't respond. It gets me

0:23:18.240 --> 0:23:19.840
<v Speaker 1>a little terrified because I also don't want to be

0:23:19.880 --> 0:23:23.680
<v Speaker 1>that crazy girl who's like he didn't text me back. No, No,

0:23:25.320 --> 0:23:27.919
<v Speaker 1>I believe there's no such thing as crazy girl. I

0:23:27.960 --> 0:23:31.159
<v Speaker 1>think girls have that title. No, I think girls have

0:23:31.280 --> 0:23:33.879
<v Speaker 1>that title because of things that men have put people

0:23:34.000 --> 0:23:38.879
<v Speaker 1>women through. And then now, well there is a reason

0:23:38.920 --> 0:23:42.840
<v Speaker 1>why every girl is quote unquote crazy. Yeah. No, like

0:23:43.119 --> 0:23:46.720
<v Speaker 1>there's something that a guy has done. Usually because like

0:23:47.200 --> 0:23:48.880
<v Speaker 1>you could go talk to your friends and be like, hey, yeah,

0:23:48.920 --> 0:23:50.680
<v Speaker 1>we're like we're having like a really fun time, we're

0:23:50.680 --> 0:23:53.080
<v Speaker 1>talking every night, and then he says things, but then

0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:55.959
<v Speaker 1>he'll translate to his friends being like, oh, she's just crazy.

0:23:56.040 --> 0:23:57.760
<v Speaker 1>She like always wants to talk to me, but you're like, no,

0:23:57.960 --> 0:24:00.320
<v Speaker 1>we're missing a huge part of the story. So it

0:24:00.320 --> 0:24:02.600
<v Speaker 1>makes it girls seem crazy. That's because guys have give

0:24:02.720 --> 0:24:06.160
<v Speaker 1>lack of the details to their friends. Does that make

0:24:06.200 --> 0:24:09.879
<v Speaker 1>sense you know? Guys? Yeah, I I get that. What

0:24:09.920 --> 0:24:12.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, a guy doesn't understand the level of depth

0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:15.480
<v Speaker 1>there is in Some guys don't understand there's different layers

0:24:15.520 --> 0:24:19.040
<v Speaker 1>to a relationship, and if you're not meeting those layers,

0:24:19.200 --> 0:24:22.639
<v Speaker 1>then it could drive a woman to ask certain questions.

0:24:23.040 --> 0:24:25.520
<v Speaker 1>And guys are very simple. I feel like, you know,

0:24:25.680 --> 0:24:27.280
<v Speaker 1>it's like is it gonna work? Is it not going

0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:32.840
<v Speaker 1>to work? I think that guys are so simple it's

0:24:32.880 --> 0:24:37.680
<v Speaker 1>almost complicated. But but I but how would you handle

0:24:37.680 --> 0:24:39.679
<v Speaker 1>a girl that you've only been talking to for about

0:24:39.760 --> 0:24:43.640
<v Speaker 1>like a month and was like, hey, like I don't

0:24:43.640 --> 0:24:47.240
<v Speaker 1>like respond You'd be like this is weird. Yeah, I'd say,

0:24:47.800 --> 0:24:50.880
<v Speaker 1>what on the other side of the country. I don't

0:24:50.920 --> 0:24:53.120
<v Speaker 1>know why we're doing this in the first place. By

0:24:53.240 --> 0:24:56.560
<v Speaker 1>I think so it's like taking it simple for me,

0:24:56.680 --> 0:24:59.120
<v Speaker 1>like I have to have to cover my emotions, which

0:24:59.160 --> 0:25:01.960
<v Speaker 1>is going to make me a easy girl. No, so

0:25:02.080 --> 0:25:06.160
<v Speaker 1>that is your first sign to tell yourself maybe this

0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:09.520
<v Speaker 1>isn't the right person. Then, But while you're afraid to.

0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:14.480
<v Speaker 1>You shouldn't be afraid of someone's reaction to your emotions

0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:17.800
<v Speaker 1>because your feelings could never be wrong. Right, You can

0:25:17.840 --> 0:25:21.560
<v Speaker 1>never do me wrong. I tell my kids this. Your

0:25:21.560 --> 0:25:23.680
<v Speaker 1>emotions aren't wrong. You're you're the way you respond to

0:25:23.720 --> 0:25:26.719
<v Speaker 1>your emotions can be wrong, right, Okay, right, but the

0:25:26.720 --> 0:25:29.920
<v Speaker 1>emotions themselves are not wrong. Yeah. No, I actually get Yeah,

0:25:29.920 --> 0:25:32.560
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna feel jealousy, and you're gonna feel envy, and

0:25:32.560 --> 0:25:34.840
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna feel hate towards people. But acting on it

0:25:34.880 --> 0:25:37.080
<v Speaker 1>is where the problems come in. Okay, I agree with that,

0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:40.160
<v Speaker 1>the acting of it for like on it for sure. Well,

0:25:40.600 --> 0:25:43.560
<v Speaker 1>this kind of goes to um. It connects to the

0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:47.719
<v Speaker 1>next topic that someone wrote in on Instagram. How do

0:25:47.760 --> 0:25:53.600
<v Speaker 1>you know when it's time to let go that you

0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:55.480
<v Speaker 1>need to let go? I'm not thinking you need to

0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:58.640
<v Speaker 1>let go, but how do you know when the right

0:25:58.680 --> 0:26:01.800
<v Speaker 1>time is to say goodbye to someone like I am?

0:26:01.880 --> 0:26:06.360
<v Speaker 1>This is great question, actually really hard for me too,

0:26:07.680 --> 0:26:10.720
<v Speaker 1>and never really someone. Uh. We spoke about this with

0:26:10.760 --> 0:26:12.560
<v Speaker 1>the guys too, and I think they said it was

0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:15.960
<v Speaker 1>easier for them to be broken up with than to

0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:20.600
<v Speaker 1>be the one to be the one to break up with. Someone, um,

0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:23.400
<v Speaker 1>and I feel like, yeah, maybe towards some the end

0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:26.800
<v Speaker 1>of some relationships, I would act a certain way for

0:26:26.840 --> 0:26:32.159
<v Speaker 1>them to kind of be like nadamnt even break up

0:26:32.200 --> 0:26:35.639
<v Speaker 1>with you. So I mean not every relationship was like that,

0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:38.000
<v Speaker 1>but I mean I think when I was really young,

0:26:38.040 --> 0:26:40.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to break up with someone and

0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:43.600
<v Speaker 1>or hurt their feelings. Um. But now it's like whatever,

0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:46.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, like you don't have time to waste. So

0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:50.360
<v Speaker 1>when you for me at least, I feel like if

0:26:50.359 --> 0:26:53.640
<v Speaker 1>that person, like I said at the beginning of this conversation,

0:26:53.800 --> 0:26:57.040
<v Speaker 1>isn't really hitting the is this person willing to work

0:26:57.080 --> 0:26:59.560
<v Speaker 1>things through with me and do whatever it takes to

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<v Speaker 1>make this a healthy relationship, because you're gonna have parts

0:27:03.400 --> 0:27:05.399
<v Speaker 1>of a relationship that make you unhappy and could be

0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:07.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of toxic when you're having like outbursts of like

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:12.159
<v Speaker 1>disagreements and stuff. But if that person isn't willing to

0:27:12.200 --> 0:27:14.880
<v Speaker 1>hear you this and see you for who you are

0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:18.600
<v Speaker 1>and you kind of feel invisible in the relationship, to me,

0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:22.520
<v Speaker 1>that's a sign of like time to walk away. It's

0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:25.040
<v Speaker 1>time to walk away. Yeah, exactly what you said. That

0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:27.480
<v Speaker 1>that's the key when one of you and it could

0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:31.440
<v Speaker 1>be you doesn't want to put the effort in anymore.

0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:33.760
<v Speaker 1>When you see that from them or you feel it

0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:36.200
<v Speaker 1>in yourself, that's when it's time to walk away. Yeah,

0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:38.040
<v Speaker 1>I like how you put that, market you could be

0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:40.879
<v Speaker 1>can we pass rewind a little bit? When is it

0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:44.919
<v Speaker 1>a time to walk away? When you're dating someone and

0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:47.640
<v Speaker 1>you're not sure if you're totally into them, but you're

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:51.719
<v Speaker 1>still saying yes to dates, when do you finally go, Okay,

0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:53.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm not into this or I am, Like for me,

0:27:55.359 --> 0:27:57.600
<v Speaker 1>I went on a date with this guy too, like

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of dates. He was so nice, like literally

0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:03.600
<v Speaker 1>knew I was sick, showed up with little juice crafters

0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:06.720
<v Speaker 1>wellness shots like it was like I either had to

0:28:06.720 --> 0:28:09.120
<v Speaker 1>get gas or this, and so I chose to get

0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:10.600
<v Speaker 1>you this because I know how much you love these

0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:15.600
<v Speaker 1>like so so nice. But you guys, I like wasn't

0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:19.640
<v Speaker 1>attracted to him, like physically, So do I give that

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:22.160
<v Speaker 1>more than two dates? Even though I'm like, I don't

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:24.200
<v Speaker 1>like I feel in my gut it's kind of a note.

0:28:24.200 --> 0:28:26.440
<v Speaker 1>But you're so thoughtful, Like he knew I didn't like

0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:28.160
<v Speaker 1>to kill us, so he's like, we're gonna get wine first,

0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:31.320
<v Speaker 1>then get tacos. You guys, he was so nice and

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:35.720
<v Speaker 1>the worst you whenever. But how many dates you give

0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:39.280
<v Speaker 1>someone before walking away from that? Um? I would say

0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:43.440
<v Speaker 1>a few. I think. Listen, there's a lot of looking

0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:47.040
<v Speaker 1>people in the world. Um. But okay, so this analogy

0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:49.640
<v Speaker 1>is a friend of mine that came up with this analogy. Okay,

0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:52.720
<v Speaker 1>listen to this. So she said, Vanessa, if someone presents

0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:57.280
<v Speaker 1>to you, but you know that Tiffany, you know Tiffany. Yeah, okay.

0:28:57.400 --> 0:28:59.880
<v Speaker 1>So if someone presents to you, presents you eight to

0:29:00.000 --> 0:29:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Finny box and it's really pretty because you're like, wow,

0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:04.880
<v Speaker 1>it's a blue Tiffany box and you open it up

0:29:05.120 --> 0:29:07.640
<v Speaker 1>and inside is a piece of Are you gonna want

0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:12.120
<v Speaker 1>the Tiffany box? No? Right? So it's so you like,

0:29:12.400 --> 0:29:15.120
<v Speaker 1>you can judge someone from their exterior, but then their

0:29:15.160 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 1>heart is not as it is not shining as bright

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 1>as their exterior. For me, it's what is this person

0:29:21.520 --> 0:29:24.320
<v Speaker 1>going to be able to, like, willing to do for

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:27.600
<v Speaker 1>you and for the relationship. To me, it doesn't sound

0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:29.479
<v Speaker 1>like he has a piece of heart. It sounds like

0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:31.520
<v Speaker 1>he has a heart of goal. I would give this

0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:34.240
<v Speaker 1>guy a chance, And you're saying the opposite is true.

0:29:34.240 --> 0:29:37.240
<v Speaker 1>You can if there's a Tiffany bracelet inside a junkie

0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:41.239
<v Speaker 1>Amazon box, doesn't matter. It's what's inside the matter, right.

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I agree. I feel like, look, maybe I'm crazy, but

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:48.480
<v Speaker 1>isn't everybody attractive if they put the effort in totally,

0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 1>Like if they dressed nicely, they're in shape, they get

0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:54.840
<v Speaker 1>their hair done well, whatever it is. I feel like everybody,

0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:57.360
<v Speaker 1>everybody is a certain amount of attractive. I'm like, I'm

0:29:57.400 --> 0:29:59.400
<v Speaker 1>so conflicted about it because I'm like, how long do

0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:01.400
<v Speaker 1>you give someone? And I don't want to lead. Here's

0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:03.360
<v Speaker 1>my main thing. I never want to lead anybody on

0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:05.880
<v Speaker 1>and make it harder on them. And I feel like

0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I kind of do have a one up in a

0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:09.960
<v Speaker 1>situation where I'm like, oh, I'm not so attached, so

0:30:10.000 --> 0:30:11.480
<v Speaker 1>it's easy to go on a date with you. But

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 1>then in the back of my head, I'm like, this

0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:17.320
<v Speaker 1>is so mean are you dating? Do you know that?

0:30:17.720 --> 0:30:20.520
<v Speaker 1>Does he know that you're dating other people? I don't

0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:24.320
<v Speaker 1>really know, like it's brought up, but yes, okay, so

0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:27.040
<v Speaker 1>then you're not leading him on. I mean I would

0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:29.120
<v Speaker 1>just probably bring up a conversation, not like you know,

0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:32.640
<v Speaker 1>like you want to see Oh my gosh, I mean

0:30:34.880 --> 0:30:36.440
<v Speaker 1>dating other people, but I still would love to like

0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 1>eat my cake too. No, I think, listen, there's nothing

0:30:40.880 --> 0:30:44.240
<v Speaker 1>sexier than a woman or a man or whoever to

0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:47.240
<v Speaker 1>be fully transparent and honest about where their head is

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 1>at in the in the relationship. I hate when you're

0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 1>dating someone and it's like you kind of have to

0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 1>decode what they're saying, what they're doing, if they're writing

0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:58.480
<v Speaker 1>to you with an exclamation market point three dots, like

0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:00.840
<v Speaker 1>what does that all mean? Tell me where your head

0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:02.160
<v Speaker 1>is at? You want to date other people? Do you

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:05.040
<v Speaker 1>want to date me exclusively? I find that sexy, and

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:08.120
<v Speaker 1>I feel like men find that really sexy coming from

0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:11.080
<v Speaker 1>a woman as well. On outside of it. A lot

0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:13.800
<v Speaker 1>long ago, I would be friends with these women and

0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:15.600
<v Speaker 1>I would catch feelings and they would tell me about

0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:17.120
<v Speaker 1>dates they would go on, and I would just have

0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:19.240
<v Speaker 1>to deal with it. It It was never mean, It was honest,

0:31:19.720 --> 0:31:23.400
<v Speaker 1>but the pining sucked like that that part of me

0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:25.400
<v Speaker 1>that was just like trying and sometimes as ever, but

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 1>about my feelings, I was honest too, and they're like, oh,

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:30.600
<v Speaker 1>that's very nice, you know, as you're not using me

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:32.520
<v Speaker 1>for free dinners and free movies. We're just hanging out

0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 1>and spending time together. I think it's fine, man, I

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:39.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know why that just like makes my stomach go

0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:41.280
<v Speaker 1>into knots. All right, we have so much more to

0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:42.880
<v Speaker 1>talk about. A lot of you have sent in a

0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:45.480
<v Speaker 1>bunch of questions and topics on Instagram. But before we

0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:48.000
<v Speaker 1>get into that, Ernestine is in studio and we're going

0:31:48.040 --> 0:32:00.680
<v Speaker 1>to talk to her and about her new book coming up. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So we are back and we're very lucky to have

0:32:03.200 --> 0:32:07.600
<v Speaker 1>in studio today the lovely Ernestine Fannie Bayliss, who's here

0:32:07.640 --> 0:32:11.239
<v Speaker 1>to talk to us about her new book. Thank you

0:32:11.280 --> 0:32:14.160
<v Speaker 1>so much for being here, her new book Balls, How

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:16.480
<v Speaker 1>to keep your relationship alive when you live with a

0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:20.560
<v Speaker 1>sports obsessed guy. Thank you for being here, my pleasure,

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for having me. Okay, so give us a little

0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:26.400
<v Speaker 1>bit more background on who you are. You're, okay, married

0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:30.240
<v Speaker 1>to an influential sports personality. I am. I'm married to

0:32:30.320 --> 0:32:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Skip Bayless, who's probably one of the most well known

0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:37.720
<v Speaker 1>personalities in sports. We've been together fourteen years and married

0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:40.720
<v Speaker 1>for three and so over the fourteen years, I have

0:32:40.840 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 1>watched a ton of sports and probably knows more about

0:32:43.720 --> 0:32:46.600
<v Speaker 1>sports than I'd say, you know, pick any guy on

0:32:46.640 --> 0:32:48.760
<v Speaker 1>the street, and I know more, not because I want

0:32:48.800 --> 0:32:52.160
<v Speaker 1>to be, because it just seeps in. Oh my goodness,

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:54.840
<v Speaker 1>I wish. So you're joined today by me. But then

0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 1>there's also two other co hosts that aren't here, Dean

0:32:57.360 --> 0:33:00.160
<v Speaker 1>and Jared. And Jared is a huge sports fan. He

0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:03.160
<v Speaker 1>loves Tom Brady, he loves football, so I'm sure he

0:33:03.200 --> 0:33:06.680
<v Speaker 1>would have loved it. It was his Skip's favorite, Tom Brady.

0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:09.600
<v Speaker 1>And then you know the Cowboys. This is in Patriots.

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:12.080
<v Speaker 1>That's my life. I have. I have T shirts that

0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:15.000
<v Speaker 1>prove it. I have no I don't care about it,

0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:17.240
<v Speaker 1>but I wear T shirts just to be on his side,

0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:20.040
<v Speaker 1>just to help him. That's so sweet of you. So

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:23.240
<v Speaker 1>you were never into sports before meeting your husband. Never.

0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm somebody that grew up in a house that my

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:28.720
<v Speaker 1>father liked the Boston you know, Philharmonics, My mother liked

0:33:28.800 --> 0:33:32.719
<v Speaker 1>Vegas and Atlantic City. My brother played soccer, but I

0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:34.760
<v Speaker 1>had no interest. I didn't grow up in a house

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 1>I cared about college football and college basketball. And it

0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:41.320
<v Speaker 1>wasn't until I met Skip that I actually even found

0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:44.000
<v Speaker 1>out what sports was. I mean, I didn't care. I

0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:46.440
<v Speaker 1>mean the closest I got to sports was I played

0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:48.680
<v Speaker 1>clarinet for years in high school and I was in

0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:50.640
<v Speaker 1>the marching band, So that was the closest I ever

0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:53.000
<v Speaker 1>got to like a real, you know, football game, but

0:33:53.040 --> 0:33:55.400
<v Speaker 1>I was playing clarinet, so I didn't know what was

0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:57.840
<v Speaker 1>going on. And then I met this guy who was

0:33:57.920 --> 0:34:01.520
<v Speaker 1>just totally engulfed in sports. It's and it just opened

0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:03.920
<v Speaker 1>a whole new world and I had this appreciation for

0:34:04.000 --> 0:34:06.520
<v Speaker 1>what guys, mostly guys. I mean, there are a lot

0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:09.400
<v Speaker 1>of women that love sports, but you know, it's it's

0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:11.960
<v Speaker 1>it's almost a religion to them. And it's just funny

0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:14.200
<v Speaker 1>now that I've been with him for fourteen years and

0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:16.200
<v Speaker 1>I just see it in a different light. And so

0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:18.480
<v Speaker 1>I've had so many girlfriends that said to me, how

0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:20.279
<v Speaker 1>do you put up with the sports thing? That I

0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:22.759
<v Speaker 1>wrote this book because it's just been part of my

0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:24.680
<v Speaker 1>life and I figured I can help other women get

0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:27.720
<v Speaker 1>through it. So when they say opposites attract, I guess,

0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:32.440
<v Speaker 1>as a saying goes it does you can date someone

0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:35.840
<v Speaker 1>who has different interests and a different sort of lifestyle

0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:38.000
<v Speaker 1>and don't make it work. Yeah, you know, it's all

0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:40.279
<v Speaker 1>a matter of compromise. You really can make it work

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:43.239
<v Speaker 1>with anybody. It just my father, being the Italian dad.

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:45.120
<v Speaker 1>I would go to him with problems. I say, Dad,

0:34:45.160 --> 0:34:46.840
<v Speaker 1>what do you think about this? He'd say, take a

0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:48.839
<v Speaker 1>piece of paper and write the pros on one side,

0:34:48.880 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 1>the cons on the other side, and see which you

0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:53.279
<v Speaker 1>know equals out. And it's really if the guy has

0:34:53.320 --> 0:34:56.279
<v Speaker 1>all these great qualities and you don't have that much

0:34:56.360 --> 0:34:58.120
<v Speaker 1>going as far as in common with them, but there

0:34:58.120 --> 0:35:01.239
<v Speaker 1>are other good points about that guy, then why not

0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:03.000
<v Speaker 1>make it, you know, give it a try and make

0:35:03.040 --> 0:35:06.120
<v Speaker 1>it work. Yeah. Actually, I love doing the pros and

0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:10.000
<v Speaker 1>consulists especially do that whenever I feel like I feel

0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:11.640
<v Speaker 1>like the relationship is coming to an end, I do

0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:13.920
<v Speaker 1>a pros and consulist and if the consulis outweighed the

0:35:13.920 --> 0:35:15.799
<v Speaker 1>pros and like, all right, start from this guy to girl.

0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 1>But I also feel like when you're dating someone, you

0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:23.600
<v Speaker 1>have this idea of like, oh, I want to have

0:35:23.680 --> 0:35:26.160
<v Speaker 1>this type of lifestyle and these are the interests that

0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:27.799
<v Speaker 1>I like, and I hope that he has the same

0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:30.399
<v Speaker 1>types of interest and if he doesn't match those, then

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:33.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be with him. But also, don't

0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:35.359
<v Speaker 1>lose yourself in the relationship. Right. So if you're dating

0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:38.000
<v Speaker 1>someone like you're married to someone who has to watch

0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:41.400
<v Speaker 1>sports for a living, you still have your life. He

0:35:41.440 --> 0:35:43.200
<v Speaker 1>has his life when you find a way to make

0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:46.000
<v Speaker 1>things work. Yeah, when I first met him and we

0:35:46.040 --> 0:35:48.839
<v Speaker 1>had our first phone conversation, he was watching a Yankees game,

0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:50.560
<v Speaker 1>and I thought, Oh, that's so cute. He's watching a

0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:52.400
<v Speaker 1>Yankees game. I didn't really know that this was going

0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:54.759
<v Speaker 1>to be the larger picture of my life, like, oh god,

0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:58.160
<v Speaker 1>he's watching another Yankees game. But so we were talking

0:35:58.200 --> 0:36:00.399
<v Speaker 1>and he said, I really like what he all in movies,

0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:02.319
<v Speaker 1>and I said, I love what he allen and then

0:36:02.560 --> 0:36:04.480
<v Speaker 1>I said I love I Love Lucy. He said I

0:36:04.560 --> 0:36:06.359
<v Speaker 1>know every Lucy and it was like, oh my god.

0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:09.120
<v Speaker 1>This guys like there are some really good points about

0:36:09.200 --> 0:36:11.680
<v Speaker 1>this guy. And you know he likes things I like.

0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 1>And the sports thing, yeah, that's his thing. And even

0:36:14.560 --> 0:36:17.760
<v Speaker 1>if he wasn't in sports for his job, he loves sports.

0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:19.920
<v Speaker 1>He just his you know, if he wasn't doing his

0:36:19.960 --> 0:36:22.640
<v Speaker 1>job today, he'd still watch sports. It's in his veins,

0:36:22.680 --> 0:36:25.719
<v Speaker 1>it's in his blood. But he has other qualities. We love,

0:36:26.000 --> 0:36:28.279
<v Speaker 1>we love music, we love movies, we love theater, and

0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:31.160
<v Speaker 1>so you know all of that. It kind of equals out.

0:36:31.320 --> 0:36:33.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean sometimes on the weekend during football season, it

0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:37.160
<v Speaker 1>doesn't really equal out because it's like Saturday and Sunday

0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:41.880
<v Speaker 1>and Monday and Thursday. But I just do my own thing. Um.

0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:44.640
<v Speaker 1>But you know, you know, yeah, they have some things

0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:47.480
<v Speaker 1>in common, and but the other the good qualities, kind

0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:49.319
<v Speaker 1>of take over some of the other things you don't

0:36:49.360 --> 0:36:52.920
<v Speaker 1>have in common. So this relations this book is about

0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:56.120
<v Speaker 1>how to keep your relationship alive. Can you give us

0:36:56.280 --> 0:36:59.160
<v Speaker 1>a little tease of what kind of advice you can

0:36:59.200 --> 0:37:02.120
<v Speaker 1>find in the book? Okay, Well, the title of course

0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:04.279
<v Speaker 1>balls how to keep your relationship alive when you live

0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:06.560
<v Speaker 1>with a sports obsess guy. I mean, that's basically it

0:37:06.600 --> 0:37:10.320
<v Speaker 1>covers the whole whole gamut. Um. I keep it alive

0:37:10.440 --> 0:37:12.880
<v Speaker 1>by the longer I've been with him, that I learned

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:15.200
<v Speaker 1>about him, and I learned what works and what doesn't work.

0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:17.480
<v Speaker 1>And so he's got this whole thing about jinxes when

0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:20.239
<v Speaker 1>he watches sports, and so the more I mean again,

0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:22.319
<v Speaker 1>I come from a Jewish Italian house and my mother,

0:37:22.320 --> 0:37:24.560
<v Speaker 1>who liked to play cards, she would say to me,

0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:26.560
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, the guy I'm playing cards with, if

0:37:26.600 --> 0:37:28.759
<v Speaker 1>he gets up while we're playing and he has to

0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:31.120
<v Speaker 1>go to the men's room, then I'm losing because he

0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:32.960
<v Speaker 1>got it from the table. So I was like, okay,

0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:35.560
<v Speaker 1>I knew a little bit about Jinxes, but then Skip

0:37:35.719 --> 0:37:38.479
<v Speaker 1>took it to a higher level because if I walk

0:37:38.560 --> 0:37:40.719
<v Speaker 1>into the living room after coming from the kitchen and

0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:42.799
<v Speaker 1>turning the light up in the kitchen and his game

0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:44.880
<v Speaker 1>is losing, he makes me go back into the kitchen

0:37:44.880 --> 0:37:48.480
<v Speaker 1>and turn the light off. So that's the god we're

0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:51.919
<v Speaker 1>talking major Jenxes. I I could relate to that though,

0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:54.840
<v Speaker 1>because when I was watching so like we discussed before

0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:57.360
<v Speaker 1>we went on air, I am from an Italian background,

0:37:57.480 --> 0:38:00.680
<v Speaker 1>and whenever Italy was in the World Cup, I would

0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 1>walk into the room and the other team would score.

0:38:03.080 --> 0:38:04.719
<v Speaker 1>So my friends would tell me go back into the

0:38:04.719 --> 0:38:07.040
<v Speaker 1>bathroom and you're not allowed to come back out, and

0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:10.239
<v Speaker 1>it score every time. I literally was stuck in the

0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:14.640
<v Speaker 1>bathroom for three hours and that year Italy won. That

0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:16.600
<v Speaker 1>is funny. I mean I can go on and on.

0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:19.200
<v Speaker 1>He's got Jinxes. Where if he was watching a game

0:38:19.600 --> 0:38:21.680
<v Speaker 1>and he had come back from playing golf, so he's

0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:23.920
<v Speaker 1>washing his golf clubs in the sink or whatever he

0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:25.439
<v Speaker 1>has to do, I don't play golf. I just drive

0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:29.120
<v Speaker 1>the golf card. So he's washing them and this, Yeah,

0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:30.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm a good wife. I just drive the car and

0:38:30.600 --> 0:38:33.319
<v Speaker 1>then I try to drive it safely. And at times

0:38:33.320 --> 0:38:35.000
<v Speaker 1>he's like, oh my god, you're going too fast. I'm like,

0:38:35.040 --> 0:38:37.000
<v Speaker 1>how fast can I go? The pedal only goes down stir,

0:38:37.160 --> 0:38:39.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, so far. But anyway, he's washing the golf

0:38:39.560 --> 0:38:41.880
<v Speaker 1>clubs in the sink and his game is on and

0:38:41.920 --> 0:38:44.680
<v Speaker 1>he's winning. And so what he does is he continues

0:38:44.719 --> 0:38:47.479
<v Speaker 1>to wash the golf club heads. It's now like two

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:50.839
<v Speaker 1>hours and I'm like how long. He's like, because if

0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:53.719
<v Speaker 1>I stopped washing them, they're going to lose. And so

0:38:53.840 --> 0:38:56.920
<v Speaker 1>this is the neuroses that I've come to live with

0:38:57.000 --> 0:38:59.919
<v Speaker 1>and understand. It's amazing because he covers sports. He knows

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:02.880
<v Speaker 1>the athletes, he does, he does some of them personally.

0:39:02.920 --> 0:39:04.759
<v Speaker 1>He knows that it all happens on the field, none

0:39:04.760 --> 0:39:08.240
<v Speaker 1>of it happens. But you try to explain that to someone,

0:39:08.320 --> 0:39:10.560
<v Speaker 1>you know. Then we have this little dog, Hazel, who's

0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:13.640
<v Speaker 1>this little white Maltese who's three years old. And in

0:39:13.680 --> 0:39:16.880
<v Speaker 1>the beginning, when we first got Hazel, i'd see Skip

0:39:16.920 --> 0:39:19.160
<v Speaker 1>take Hazel into his room because he's got two giant

0:39:19.160 --> 0:39:21.920
<v Speaker 1>TVs in his room that he watches sports. And then

0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I would see her disappear for two hours and I say,

0:39:24.160 --> 0:39:27.200
<v Speaker 1>here's Hazel. And then I would go into his room

0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:29.080
<v Speaker 1>and said, what are you doing, Hazel? What? Nothing? Just

0:39:29.120 --> 0:39:31.319
<v Speaker 1>don't worry about it, okay. And then I realized, Oh,

0:39:31.360 --> 0:39:33.839
<v Speaker 1>it's like having a Buddha, and you know people rub

0:39:33.880 --> 0:39:36.600
<v Speaker 1>a Buddha. So Hazel is the good, you know, And

0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:38.719
<v Speaker 1>when things are going great, Hazel stays in there and

0:39:38.719 --> 0:39:40.759
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, I see Skip opens the door

0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:43.840
<v Speaker 1>and hands me Hazel, and I know the team is losing.

0:39:43.920 --> 0:39:46.719
<v Speaker 1>This is like the pawn take her away from me.

0:39:46.760 --> 0:39:48.600
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, I get it. I know what's going

0:39:48.680 --> 0:39:51.680
<v Speaker 1>on is that it's crazy, but that's what it is.

0:39:51.760 --> 0:39:55.080
<v Speaker 1>It's all about that. So are you saying you should

0:39:55.120 --> 0:40:00.080
<v Speaker 1>be encouraging your significant other to have these rituals and

0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:02.960
<v Speaker 1>jinxes and to believe in them or to just avoid

0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:04.720
<v Speaker 1>them at all costs? You know, you know you can't

0:40:04.719 --> 0:40:06.920
<v Speaker 1>make them do what you know you if you if

0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:08.920
<v Speaker 1>they have a jinx, they're gonna have the jinx. You

0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:11.239
<v Speaker 1>can't stop that jinx. So what you have to do

0:40:11.320 --> 0:40:13.480
<v Speaker 1>is you have to learn about the jinxes. So now

0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:16.680
<v Speaker 1>I know, you know not to say certain things like

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:19.120
<v Speaker 1>the kiss of death is to say as soon as

0:40:19.120 --> 0:40:21.280
<v Speaker 1>his game starts and like they're up by like maybe

0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:24.319
<v Speaker 1>three points and the other team is losing, and I go, oh,

0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:27.000
<v Speaker 1>you got this, this team is gonna win. Don't Oh

0:40:27.040 --> 0:40:30.560
<v Speaker 1>my god? This is like why now, why don't you

0:40:30.600 --> 0:40:32.120
<v Speaker 1>turn the TV off? You know what you just did

0:40:32.160 --> 0:40:33.880
<v Speaker 1>to me? You just made me lose. I'm like, do

0:40:33.920 --> 0:40:36.080
<v Speaker 1>you think I have such power? I can change a game,

0:40:36.239 --> 0:40:38.640
<v Speaker 1>I can change change the Super Bowl, I can change

0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:40.719
<v Speaker 1>the World Series. If I do, I should buy the

0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:44.440
<v Speaker 1>lottery ticket, go play lotto immediately. But this is what

0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:46.640
<v Speaker 1>he thinks. So now I know. I don't even say

0:40:46.680 --> 0:40:49.399
<v Speaker 1>it because you know, why hype them up? Why get

0:40:49.440 --> 0:40:53.440
<v Speaker 1>them really mad? It's like feed into it. It's like, okay, fine,

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:55.480
<v Speaker 1>you know what, just don't don't turn the light on.

0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:57.560
<v Speaker 1>And he makes me walk backwards. If I walk into

0:40:57.560 --> 0:40:59.640
<v Speaker 1>his room and his team is winning, and then I

0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:01.680
<v Speaker 1>walk and he makes me walk out the same exact

0:41:01.680 --> 0:41:03.080
<v Speaker 1>way I came in. You know you have to walk

0:41:03.080 --> 0:41:05.439
<v Speaker 1>out backwards, you know. So this is but I think

0:41:05.480 --> 0:41:09.600
<v Speaker 1>every guy has something. You know Josh have stuff like this.

0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:13.200
<v Speaker 1>Josh is not so. Josh is my boyfriend. Josh is

0:41:13.200 --> 0:41:17.080
<v Speaker 1>my too wish boyfriend, and he's yeah, I love that

0:41:17.120 --> 0:41:20.120
<v Speaker 1>I got your approval. He is not He's not really

0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:21.960
<v Speaker 1>into sports, and none of us are really into sports.

0:41:22.040 --> 0:41:26.359
<v Speaker 1>We're both we both love the Olympics. So he runs, yeah,

0:41:26.400 --> 0:41:28.600
<v Speaker 1>he runs track. I was a gymnast, and when I

0:41:28.640 --> 0:41:31.000
<v Speaker 1>was a gymnast, I had these really crazy superstitions. If

0:41:31.040 --> 0:41:33.160
<v Speaker 1>I would win gold, I would wake up the next

0:41:33.239 --> 0:41:35.839
<v Speaker 1>morning for the next competition and do everything I did

0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:38.560
<v Speaker 1>the same day I won that gold medal. I would

0:41:38.560 --> 0:41:40.000
<v Speaker 1>tie my hair the same way, I would wear the

0:41:40.040 --> 0:41:42.719
<v Speaker 1>same underwear. So I totally get when it comes to

0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:45.160
<v Speaker 1>like the ritual and superstition, and especially coming from an

0:41:45.160 --> 0:41:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Italian background where we believe in like like right the evil.

0:41:52.040 --> 0:41:53.600
<v Speaker 1>My father would say to me he was giving me

0:41:53.640 --> 0:41:57.279
<v Speaker 1>the maluke and then I look up in the Webster dictionary, Mom,

0:41:57.320 --> 0:41:59.200
<v Speaker 1>how do you spell mala yoke? I don't even know

0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:03.640
<v Speaker 1>what you know? Evil eye? Evil eye? It's crazy which

0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:07.920
<v Speaker 1>part of Italy because you have Palermo Sicilian. So my

0:42:07.960 --> 0:42:11.120
<v Speaker 1>father had a very very big temper, you know, it

0:42:11.239 --> 0:42:13.560
<v Speaker 1>was very you don't eat until my father sits at

0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:15.879
<v Speaker 1>the dinner table at six o'clock. We all have to listen,

0:42:15.880 --> 0:42:18.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, wait until my father sits down. And it

0:42:18.520 --> 0:42:20.200
<v Speaker 1>was that was a kind of house I grew up in.

0:42:20.280 --> 0:42:23.160
<v Speaker 1>So but the the jinks thing I get because I

0:42:23.160 --> 0:42:25.360
<v Speaker 1>did grow up again. My mother had it with cards,

0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:28.120
<v Speaker 1>my father had it just with being Italian, and so

0:42:28.200 --> 0:42:30.600
<v Speaker 1>I understand it. But this has taken it to a whole,

0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:33.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, larger level. And then in the book, we

0:42:34.040 --> 0:42:36.279
<v Speaker 1>have some celebrities that have you know, they've weighed in

0:42:36.320 --> 0:42:39.680
<v Speaker 1>on their jinxes, from Billy, Bob Thornton, Little Wayne to

0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:44.879
<v Speaker 1>Um Shannon who skipped debate partner on Undisputed Um and everybody.

0:42:44.920 --> 0:42:47.279
<v Speaker 1>Everybody just has a jinx. I have a thing that

0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:49.880
<v Speaker 1>I do um on. My teams are the Milwaukee Brewers

0:42:49.880 --> 0:42:51.920
<v Speaker 1>and the Green Bay Packers, and when the Packers are

0:42:51.960 --> 0:42:53.799
<v Speaker 1>in the playoffs, I have a special hat that I

0:42:53.840 --> 0:42:56.760
<v Speaker 1>wear that's kind of like a beret and the yellow

0:42:57.719 --> 0:42:59.680
<v Speaker 1>and somebody made it. Once it's home made. It's not

0:42:59.719 --> 0:43:02.279
<v Speaker 1>like merchandise, and they sewed into it. Go Packers. We

0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:04.040
<v Speaker 1>found it in a garage sale back in the nineties

0:43:04.040 --> 0:43:07.080
<v Speaker 1>and it says World Champs and I wear the playoffs

0:43:07.080 --> 0:43:09.000
<v Speaker 1>and my wife hates it because I look like an

0:43:09.000 --> 0:43:14.040
<v Speaker 1>absolute idiot who cares win. It doesn't matter, right, No,

0:43:14.280 --> 0:43:16.640
<v Speaker 1>that's the whole thing. Skip has a Dallas Cowboys T

0:43:16.760 --> 0:43:19.000
<v Speaker 1>shirt and when they're winning, it's great. But if you

0:43:19.239 --> 0:43:20.920
<v Speaker 1>if you go on his I think it's on his

0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Instagram or his Facebook. After they lose, then he goes

0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:25.920
<v Speaker 1>and he throws it in the garbage pail in the

0:43:26.000 --> 0:43:27.879
<v Speaker 1>kitchen because but then later he goes and he takes

0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:30.440
<v Speaker 1>it out. So what's the difference. Sooner or later you're

0:43:30.440 --> 0:43:32.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna you're gonna wear it. Just give it up, you know.

0:43:33.040 --> 0:43:36.000
<v Speaker 1>But it's a whole learning experience. And that's what is

0:43:36.000 --> 0:43:39.040
<v Speaker 1>in the book. And again, I've never even I've never

0:43:39.040 --> 0:43:42.200
<v Speaker 1>been to a football game in my life. I've not done. Yeah, well,

0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:44.359
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't go to football games. He watches on TV

0:43:44.440 --> 0:43:46.719
<v Speaker 1>because first of all, it's easier for him to watch

0:43:46.760 --> 0:43:48.799
<v Speaker 1>because he has to tweet, and he's got different you know,

0:43:48.800 --> 0:43:51.719
<v Speaker 1>he's got six games on it once. But um, when

0:43:51.760 --> 0:43:54.240
<v Speaker 1>I first watched games with him, I had no clue.

0:43:54.360 --> 0:43:56.239
<v Speaker 1>I knew what, you know, it's football. But he'd say,

0:43:56.480 --> 0:43:58.200
<v Speaker 1>we want the red team to win, and so I

0:43:58.200 --> 0:44:00.560
<v Speaker 1>would know, you know, the red team versus the blue team,

0:44:00.760 --> 0:44:02.320
<v Speaker 1>and then what would happen. I go to the ladies

0:44:02.400 --> 0:44:04.720
<v Speaker 1>room and I come out and I'd say, what's happening?

0:44:04.719 --> 0:44:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, that was the other game I put. I

0:44:06.040 --> 0:44:07.520
<v Speaker 1>turned on the other game. I'm like, but I got

0:44:07.560 --> 0:44:09.120
<v Speaker 1>into the other game with the red guys. Now you

0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:11.359
<v Speaker 1>got yellow guys. I don't know where these guys come

0:44:11.400 --> 0:44:13.480
<v Speaker 1>from and what they're doing. So you know, it's like

0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:16.000
<v Speaker 1>a big, big game you have to follow. But the

0:44:16.040 --> 0:44:19.160
<v Speaker 1>only way that I started learning how to um one

0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:21.400
<v Speaker 1>of the tips is that I ended up looking for

0:44:21.440 --> 0:44:23.960
<v Speaker 1>the really cute guys. So the cute guys are how

0:44:24.040 --> 0:44:27.160
<v Speaker 1>I can watch the game. So for every team, I

0:44:27.160 --> 0:44:30.279
<v Speaker 1>identify cute guys, and so the Spurs that that's one

0:44:30.320 --> 0:44:33.319
<v Speaker 1>of his favorite teams. I have a Manu Genobily, you

0:44:33.320 --> 0:44:37.360
<v Speaker 1>know sweatshirt Tony Parker. I had Kauai until Kai defected,

0:44:37.640 --> 0:44:39.759
<v Speaker 1>but I have And the reason why I like it

0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:41.880
<v Speaker 1>is because I'm like, oh, these guys are so cute.

0:44:41.960 --> 0:44:44.800
<v Speaker 1>This gives me an interest to watch these games. Yes,

0:44:45.239 --> 0:44:50.680
<v Speaker 1>I totally agree with you, I'm not yes agree with

0:44:50.719 --> 0:44:52.960
<v Speaker 1>you are Also whenever the finals, right, and if your

0:44:52.960 --> 0:44:54.920
<v Speaker 1>country's and the finals are your city or whatever's in

0:44:54.920 --> 0:44:56.880
<v Speaker 1>the finals, and you get into it, and that's when

0:44:56.880 --> 0:44:59.160
<v Speaker 1>you do all your research and there's that pride that's

0:44:59.160 --> 0:45:01.400
<v Speaker 1>attached to it. For like, for females like me who

0:45:01.440 --> 0:45:04.839
<v Speaker 1>aren't really into sports, that's when I really get into it. Yeah,

0:45:05.120 --> 0:45:09.040
<v Speaker 1>and you also talk about what not to say when

0:45:09.080 --> 0:45:12.800
<v Speaker 1>their team is losing, which I think is also important

0:45:12.800 --> 0:45:16.960
<v Speaker 1>for people who aren't necessarily dating someone that's into sports,

0:45:17.120 --> 0:45:20.799
<v Speaker 1>because this is also the art of empathy, right right,

0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:24.719
<v Speaker 1>act towards your partner's feeling and what the reactions. So

0:45:24.800 --> 0:45:28.000
<v Speaker 1>one of the key um phrases I guess you could

0:45:28.000 --> 0:45:29.880
<v Speaker 1>say is when I didn't do this at first, and

0:45:29.880 --> 0:45:32.520
<v Speaker 1>Skip would come in, he'd be really upset his team lost,

0:45:32.560 --> 0:45:35.359
<v Speaker 1>and I'd just say wow, and he'd say, can't you say,

0:45:35.480 --> 0:45:37.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, I feel bad? Or I'd say to them,

0:45:37.560 --> 0:45:39.040
<v Speaker 1>what do you mean I feel bad? What are you

0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:41.040
<v Speaker 1>talking about? I didn't have anything to do with them losing.

0:45:41.080 --> 0:45:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Him He'd say, yeah, But I mean, come on, can't

0:45:43.120 --> 0:45:45.839
<v Speaker 1>you just say, well, I'm sorry your team lost, so

0:45:45.960 --> 0:45:48.080
<v Speaker 1>it makes him feel better. If I say I'm sorry

0:45:48.120 --> 0:45:50.560
<v Speaker 1>your team lost, I don't understand the logic to that

0:45:50.640 --> 0:45:52.680
<v Speaker 1>at all, because I really had nothing. Do you under

0:45:52.800 --> 0:45:54.040
<v Speaker 1>you get of course, because you need to take it

0:45:54.080 --> 0:45:56.200
<v Speaker 1>as seriously as they do it. It's like, yeah, it's

0:45:56.200 --> 0:45:57.880
<v Speaker 1>almost like a death in the family. You need to

0:45:57.920 --> 0:46:02.799
<v Speaker 1>really seems like, hey, I'm really sorry, right exactly? Help?

0:46:03.040 --> 0:46:04.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah see now I get Now you're a guy and

0:46:04.840 --> 0:46:06.879
<v Speaker 1>you're telling me this. I understand it. But it's like,

0:46:07.239 --> 0:46:09.600
<v Speaker 1>what do you feel bad? Like if my you know,

0:46:09.680 --> 0:46:11.800
<v Speaker 1>whatever it is, my show went off the air or something.

0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:13.799
<v Speaker 1>It's not like, oh, if I'm sorry that you know

0:46:13.880 --> 0:46:16.479
<v Speaker 1>the HDTV that you like, that show is no longer

0:46:16.560 --> 0:46:18.520
<v Speaker 1>on Fix Her Up or is off I used to

0:46:18.560 --> 0:46:20.879
<v Speaker 1>love Fix Her Up? Or He'd walk through the living

0:46:20.960 --> 0:46:22.960
<v Speaker 1>room and go, oh god, you're watching that stupid show again.

0:46:23.000 --> 0:46:24.719
<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, yeah, but I don't call it your

0:46:24.719 --> 0:46:26.840
<v Speaker 1>a game stupid. Well they're not stupid, you know, But

0:46:26.960 --> 0:46:29.960
<v Speaker 1>that's that's the guy girl thing, you know. But so

0:46:30.000 --> 0:46:32.440
<v Speaker 1>now I learned, you know, I'm sorry. Your team was

0:46:32.480 --> 0:46:34.760
<v Speaker 1>what can I do? Want something special for dinner? Should

0:46:34.760 --> 0:46:37.240
<v Speaker 1>I go get you something? It's like this whole I try,

0:46:37.400 --> 0:46:40.120
<v Speaker 1>I really do, but then you know, you cross your

0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:42.360
<v Speaker 1>fingers that they're not always losing something. You don't always

0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:44.600
<v Speaker 1>gotta do these things that you're like, right, and then

0:46:44.680 --> 0:46:47.200
<v Speaker 1>I then I even And I'm not the most religious person.

0:46:47.239 --> 0:46:49.879
<v Speaker 1>I grew up with, you know, Italian father, Jewish mom.

0:46:50.160 --> 0:46:51.719
<v Speaker 1>I go to church, I go to temple. I go

0:46:51.760 --> 0:46:54.320
<v Speaker 1>to church now with skip, but I'd say, oh, I

0:46:54.760 --> 0:46:56.879
<v Speaker 1>pray to God, God your team and skip and take.

0:46:57.080 --> 0:46:58.879
<v Speaker 1>That's not what you pray to God for. You don't

0:46:58.880 --> 0:47:00.840
<v Speaker 1>pray to God for your team to win or lose.

0:47:01.040 --> 0:47:03.480
<v Speaker 1>But for me, it's like, please, you don't know what

0:47:03.520 --> 0:47:05.520
<v Speaker 1>it's like if your team loses. You don't live with you.

0:47:05.840 --> 0:47:09.239
<v Speaker 1>I live with you. I need every every little bit

0:47:09.280 --> 0:47:12.560
<v Speaker 1>of help I can get, you know, So when does

0:47:12.560 --> 0:47:14.800
<v Speaker 1>I get the most intense? Because I don't really follow sports,

0:47:14.880 --> 0:47:17.480
<v Speaker 1>is there like a specific month? Oh yeah, now it's

0:47:17.520 --> 0:47:21.839
<v Speaker 1>kicking off September September eight, that's Sunday that it kicks off.

0:47:22.000 --> 0:47:25.520
<v Speaker 1>That is the worst season, football season, because it's endless,

0:47:25.600 --> 0:47:28.960
<v Speaker 1>it really is. You have college football, you have pro

0:47:29.280 --> 0:47:34.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, NFL football, So you have Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Thursday,

0:47:34.400 --> 0:47:36.960
<v Speaker 1>and they're all they seem to all be important. It's

0:47:37.000 --> 0:47:41.839
<v Speaker 1>like every game is important. So then right, and then

0:47:41.920 --> 0:47:45.000
<v Speaker 1>October in the midst of that, then you have NBA

0:47:45.160 --> 0:47:48.040
<v Speaker 1>that kicks up. Then you're right. So then it's like,

0:47:49.400 --> 0:47:51.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's just my life because mine

0:47:51.200 --> 0:47:54.600
<v Speaker 1>is magnified by a thousand percent. Then you know most women,

0:47:54.640 --> 0:47:57.880
<v Speaker 1>but there's always a sport on, no matter when it is,

0:47:57.960 --> 0:48:00.920
<v Speaker 1>even in the dead of summer, which is usually August

0:48:00.960 --> 0:48:04.120
<v Speaker 1>and we can take a vacation. He'll watch women's softball

0:48:04.160 --> 0:48:08.560
<v Speaker 1>from Oklahoma City and it's like, I think, yeah, we're

0:48:08.640 --> 0:48:10.480
<v Speaker 1>I think, oh god, there's no games on. And then

0:48:10.520 --> 0:48:13.120
<v Speaker 1>it's like, well, look at these girls. Look how hard

0:48:13.160 --> 0:48:16.560
<v Speaker 1>they I'm like, oh my god. Not women's softball is

0:48:16.760 --> 0:48:20.359
<v Speaker 1>a thing like Tuesday night is our night and there's

0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:23.799
<v Speaker 1>gonna be no sports. Yeah. You know what he's really

0:48:23.840 --> 0:48:26.480
<v Speaker 1>good about, I have to say, in old kidding aside,

0:48:26.640 --> 0:48:30.320
<v Speaker 1>he does compromise because he'll look at the game schedule

0:48:30.400 --> 0:48:32.440
<v Speaker 1>before and he'll say, hey, listen, I can go to

0:48:32.480 --> 0:48:35.200
<v Speaker 1>a mattenee because I have to be home by four thirties,

0:48:35.200 --> 0:48:36.719
<v Speaker 1>So then we'll go to a mattenee. I will say,

0:48:36.760 --> 0:48:38.840
<v Speaker 1>let's go to you know, like last weekend or was

0:48:38.880 --> 0:48:41.279
<v Speaker 1>it just this weekend? Um, the game come on pre

0:48:41.520 --> 0:48:43.879
<v Speaker 1>pre football. There is the pre football games that are

0:48:43.960 --> 0:48:46.640
<v Speaker 1>just preseason, which I don't know. They seem to be

0:48:46.719 --> 0:48:48.840
<v Speaker 1>as important as the other ones, but not really because

0:48:48.880 --> 0:48:51.560
<v Speaker 1>the starters don't play this. I've learned the starters are

0:48:51.560 --> 0:48:54.840
<v Speaker 1>the main guys. Just so you know, Vanessa, the starters.

0:48:54.880 --> 0:48:57.920
<v Speaker 1>This is a little bit. I know starters are there.

0:48:58.040 --> 0:49:00.200
<v Speaker 1>There's some of them are cute, but the main is

0:49:00.239 --> 0:49:02.279
<v Speaker 1>like the Tom Brady's and all those guys. They haven't

0:49:02.280 --> 0:49:03.960
<v Speaker 1>played yet. But somehow he still has to watch it.

0:49:04.080 --> 0:49:06.319
<v Speaker 1>But he said, listen, if I can get home by

0:49:06.640 --> 0:49:09.360
<v Speaker 1>I think it was five six o'clock, then we're okay.

0:49:09.400 --> 0:49:11.600
<v Speaker 1>So we quickly ran and we got food at four

0:49:11.719 --> 0:49:14.280
<v Speaker 1>thirty to six, and then he did like a hundred

0:49:14.280 --> 0:49:16.440
<v Speaker 1>and fifty miles an hour driving home so we can

0:49:16.480 --> 0:49:19.439
<v Speaker 1>get home just before the you know, kickoff starts. So

0:49:19.920 --> 0:49:22.640
<v Speaker 1>there is a compromise, and he tries to help, and

0:49:22.640 --> 0:49:24.279
<v Speaker 1>he tries to say, hey, listen, this one is not

0:49:24.360 --> 0:49:27.440
<v Speaker 1>as important, and they'll say we could watch something else,

0:49:27.480 --> 0:49:29.000
<v Speaker 1>and then what I see what he does he thinks

0:49:29.040 --> 0:49:31.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know this. He puts his laptop up and

0:49:31.120 --> 0:49:33.520
<v Speaker 1>he puts the game on the laptop. So we're watching

0:49:33.560 --> 0:49:35.320
<v Speaker 1>TV on the big screen in the living room, and

0:49:35.360 --> 0:49:37.640
<v Speaker 1>then I see he's like looking down. I'm like, do

0:49:37.680 --> 0:49:39.200
<v Speaker 1>you really need to watch it? No, No, I'm just

0:49:39.200 --> 0:49:41.040
<v Speaker 1>looking to see what's going on. But I'm watching, you know.

0:49:41.080 --> 0:49:45.480
<v Speaker 1>It's it's never you are. We'll be watching Grace and

0:49:45.520 --> 0:49:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Natomy or something together, and I'll have my iPads. It's horrible.

0:49:50.840 --> 0:49:54.200
<v Speaker 1>I need full attention, full attention. So how do you

0:49:54.239 --> 0:49:56.759
<v Speaker 1>prioritize your free time together? How do you make you

0:49:56.760 --> 0:49:59.239
<v Speaker 1>said in August, you guys were on vacation with that

0:49:59.360 --> 0:50:04.000
<v Speaker 1>free time. Yeah, so we get during after the super Bowl,

0:50:04.160 --> 0:50:06.560
<v Speaker 1>then there's a free time. So we have a week

0:50:06.600 --> 0:50:09.040
<v Speaker 1>off for a week and a half off, um, and

0:50:09.080 --> 0:50:11.840
<v Speaker 1>then in August we take the other part right before

0:50:11.840 --> 0:50:14.560
<v Speaker 1>football season starts. So that was last week. Uh. And

0:50:14.600 --> 0:50:17.560
<v Speaker 1>then in December he takes a few days around Christmas maybe,

0:50:17.560 --> 0:50:20.600
<v Speaker 1>but Christmas is a big day, as you know, NBA

0:50:21.040 --> 0:50:24.839
<v Speaker 1>is a big day, Christmas Day, so it's Christmas Day.

0:50:24.840 --> 0:50:29.560
<v Speaker 1>There's oh god, those are the big ones. See, be

0:50:29.640 --> 0:50:35.480
<v Speaker 1>glad your boyfriend does not like sports. So you've been

0:50:35.520 --> 0:50:38.520
<v Speaker 1>married for just say three or four years? Three years?

0:50:38.719 --> 0:50:41.359
<v Speaker 1>Three years. We moved from New York City to Los

0:50:41.400 --> 0:50:43.520
<v Speaker 1>Angeles three years ago. When he left, he was working

0:50:43.560 --> 0:50:46.120
<v Speaker 1>for ESPN. He had a show called First Take and

0:50:46.160 --> 0:50:48.960
<v Speaker 1>then he went to Fox Sports one and it's undisputed.

0:50:49.000 --> 0:50:51.440
<v Speaker 1>So we got married actually two days before we moved

0:50:51.440 --> 0:50:54.160
<v Speaker 1>to l A. We in New York City. Yeah, we

0:50:54.200 --> 0:50:57.600
<v Speaker 1>went down to City Hall and we got married. Well, congratulations,

0:50:57.600 --> 0:50:59.520
<v Speaker 1>thank you. I mean that. I love that. I love

0:50:59.640 --> 0:51:02.840
<v Speaker 1>being able to I think there's such a pressure in society,

0:51:02.920 --> 0:51:05.360
<v Speaker 1>especially if you're coming from like a Jewish background or

0:51:05.360 --> 0:51:08.160
<v Speaker 1>an Italian background where you've been dating. You guys were

0:51:08.239 --> 0:51:12.160
<v Speaker 1>dating for fourteen years. Uh, yeah, and you decided to

0:51:12.160 --> 0:51:15.319
<v Speaker 1>get married three years ago. So how did you make

0:51:15.360 --> 0:51:17.279
<v Speaker 1>that decision and how did you not feel like there

0:51:17.360 --> 0:51:21.120
<v Speaker 1>was a pressure to make that step? Well, we made

0:51:21.480 --> 0:51:23.960
<v Speaker 1>I actually said to him, you know what, for me

0:51:24.040 --> 0:51:25.920
<v Speaker 1>to move across country because I grew up in New

0:51:26.000 --> 0:51:28.160
<v Speaker 1>York and I have all my friends and my family there,

0:51:28.400 --> 0:51:31.360
<v Speaker 1>it's a big undertaking to move somewhere with someone. And

0:51:31.440 --> 0:51:34.360
<v Speaker 1>I said, um, I really feel better if we were married,

0:51:34.560 --> 0:51:36.520
<v Speaker 1>because I don't really care. I think if we were

0:51:36.520 --> 0:51:38.640
<v Speaker 1>still in New York City, we probably would not have

0:51:38.719 --> 0:51:41.040
<v Speaker 1>been married. But because we were moving and I just

0:51:41.080 --> 0:51:43.359
<v Speaker 1>felt like I needed. I needed to feel as though

0:51:43.400 --> 0:51:45.319
<v Speaker 1>I was moving with somebody that it wasn't going to

0:51:45.360 --> 0:51:47.839
<v Speaker 1>be some kind of just late, Hey, let's hang out.

0:51:47.880 --> 0:51:49.680
<v Speaker 1>Let's just move to l A and hang out. I

0:51:49.719 --> 0:51:52.479
<v Speaker 1>needed a little bit more security. And so a friend

0:51:52.480 --> 0:51:54.480
<v Speaker 1>of ours was a judge, and we called him and

0:51:54.520 --> 0:51:56.600
<v Speaker 1>we said, hey, we're moving to l A on August first,

0:51:56.680 --> 0:51:58.719
<v Speaker 1>and he said, oh, great, come in on. And we

0:51:58.760 --> 0:52:01.560
<v Speaker 1>went downtown and we just I think he had like

0:52:01.560 --> 0:52:05.040
<v Speaker 1>a golf shirt on, golf pants, and we just went

0:52:05.080 --> 0:52:08.920
<v Speaker 1>downtown and uh, it was almost like night court because

0:52:08.920 --> 0:52:11.400
<v Speaker 1>the bailiff was our our witness, and it was just

0:52:11.520 --> 0:52:15.239
<v Speaker 1>kind of a crazy, crazy I told nobody. And then

0:52:15.280 --> 0:52:17.640
<v Speaker 1>we went back uptown and and I think he watched

0:52:17.640 --> 0:52:19.319
<v Speaker 1>a game or something. I don't know. And then we

0:52:19.400 --> 0:52:21.480
<v Speaker 1>came out to l A on August first, and it

0:52:21.560 --> 0:52:24.920
<v Speaker 1>was like here we are, and um. But we were

0:52:24.960 --> 0:52:28.040
<v Speaker 1>together for so many years and he lived part of

0:52:28.080 --> 0:52:30.760
<v Speaker 1>the time in Connecticut because he was working at ESPN,

0:52:30.800 --> 0:52:33.160
<v Speaker 1>and I lived full time in New York City, and

0:52:33.200 --> 0:52:35.960
<v Speaker 1>we had not lived together full time until we moved

0:52:36.000 --> 0:52:38.239
<v Speaker 1>to l A. And so that was a little bit

0:52:38.280 --> 0:52:41.520
<v Speaker 1>of an awakening too, because we were you know, We

0:52:41.560 --> 0:52:43.839
<v Speaker 1>had an apartment in New York City. He would come

0:52:43.840 --> 0:52:45.560
<v Speaker 1>home on the weekends or I would go up to

0:52:45.560 --> 0:52:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Connecticut on the weekends. But we didn't live full time,

0:52:48.800 --> 0:52:51.160
<v Speaker 1>and it's different when you live full time with somebody

0:52:51.200 --> 0:52:54.359
<v Speaker 1>in the same house. So fourteen years, you guys were

0:52:54.360 --> 0:52:56.640
<v Speaker 1>doing long distance. Yeah, well it was it was a

0:52:57.160 --> 0:53:01.200
<v Speaker 1>twelve eleven years. Eleven years. Yeah, first year I met him,

0:53:01.200 --> 0:53:03.200
<v Speaker 1>he was working out of New York City and I

0:53:03.239 --> 0:53:05.080
<v Speaker 1>was living in New York City, so we were together,

0:53:05.120 --> 0:53:07.880
<v Speaker 1>but I wasn't living with him. After one year, they

0:53:08.480 --> 0:53:11.440
<v Speaker 1>moved his his show up to Connecticut and so then

0:53:11.480 --> 0:53:14.640
<v Speaker 1>it was a weekend relationship. But then we moved to

0:53:14.800 --> 0:53:16.920
<v Speaker 1>l A and that was you know, it was a

0:53:17.000 --> 0:53:20.359
<v Speaker 1>very long Yeah. I mean it's it's hard moving with

0:53:20.400 --> 0:53:23.759
<v Speaker 1>somebody cross country, living with somebody in a you know,

0:53:23.800 --> 0:53:26.080
<v Speaker 1>in a house then that you never lived with before.

0:53:27.120 --> 0:53:30.640
<v Speaker 1>On top of sports, we had so many questions about

0:53:31.080 --> 0:53:33.920
<v Speaker 1>long distance relationships, like it's so nice here that you

0:53:34.120 --> 0:53:36.359
<v Speaker 1>were able to do it for eleven years, and I

0:53:36.520 --> 0:53:38.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of I love I'm in a relationship now. But

0:53:38.960 --> 0:53:41.520
<v Speaker 1>I loved long distance relationships because I was a type

0:53:41.520 --> 0:53:44.360
<v Speaker 1>of person that would fully immerse myself into the relationship

0:53:44.400 --> 0:53:46.799
<v Speaker 1>and kind of lose who I was. And so for me,

0:53:47.000 --> 0:53:50.319
<v Speaker 1>long distance was a way to like get that emotional

0:53:50.600 --> 0:53:54.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, like need from my person, but still be

0:53:54.400 --> 0:53:55.759
<v Speaker 1>able to do all the things that I want to

0:53:55.760 --> 0:53:59.759
<v Speaker 1>be doing. Um, But for me it was always my

0:53:59.800 --> 0:54:02.360
<v Speaker 1>sick month mark. Once it hits six six months of

0:54:02.400 --> 0:54:04.040
<v Speaker 1>my who's moving? Where? Like, how are we going to

0:54:04.120 --> 0:54:06.319
<v Speaker 1>make this work? So it's really nice to hear that

0:54:06.400 --> 0:54:09.040
<v Speaker 1>you made a relationship work for eleven years. Now you're married.

0:54:09.080 --> 0:54:11.839
<v Speaker 1>You have a book And did he help you write

0:54:11.840 --> 0:54:13.399
<v Speaker 1>it or is he a part of the book. He

0:54:13.520 --> 0:54:15.959
<v Speaker 1>wrote a couple of chapters and part of a book.

0:54:16.000 --> 0:54:17.719
<v Speaker 1>He does a Q and A for what you know,

0:54:17.760 --> 0:54:21.640
<v Speaker 1>what do guys think about this with girls sports relationships?

0:54:21.640 --> 0:54:24.120
<v Speaker 1>So he just tried to answer what he thought the

0:54:24.160 --> 0:54:27.400
<v Speaker 1>best way to help women deal with men that like sports.

0:54:27.480 --> 0:54:29.200
<v Speaker 1>And so he was part of it, and he was

0:54:29.400 --> 0:54:31.399
<v Speaker 1>he was really supportive. He loved it because he knows

0:54:31.400 --> 0:54:33.359
<v Speaker 1>that I've been living in it for so long and

0:54:33.560 --> 0:54:35.600
<v Speaker 1>people would say to me, you should write a book, God,

0:54:35.680 --> 0:54:37.160
<v Speaker 1>how do you do this? I couldn't put up with

0:54:37.200 --> 0:54:39.360
<v Speaker 1>my guy for one day, and you're like living with

0:54:39.400 --> 0:54:42.040
<v Speaker 1>this guy So it's just a fun book and it's

0:54:42.040 --> 0:54:44.000
<v Speaker 1>not meant to it's not like a war in piece.

0:54:44.040 --> 0:54:47.680
<v Speaker 1>It's just a fun guide tip book that you can carry.

0:54:47.719 --> 0:54:50.160
<v Speaker 1>It's not gigantic, and it's just something that you could

0:54:50.160 --> 0:54:51.880
<v Speaker 1>read on a plane and have a few laughs. And

0:54:52.520 --> 0:54:57.719
<v Speaker 1>it's just life. And you're so funny and you're so playful.

0:54:57.760 --> 0:54:59.440
<v Speaker 1>So I'm sure that's a big indication of what the

0:54:59.440 --> 0:55:02.239
<v Speaker 1>book is going to be like. So make sure to

0:55:02.320 --> 0:55:05.160
<v Speaker 1>check out Balls How to Keep your relationship Alive when

0:55:05.200 --> 0:55:07.560
<v Speaker 1>you live with the Sports Obcess guy, Ernestine, Thank you

0:55:07.600 --> 0:55:09.400
<v Speaker 1>so much for coming in. Where can you find you?

0:55:09.480 --> 0:55:14.360
<v Speaker 1>Do you have an Instagram account? No? I don't social media.

0:55:14.520 --> 0:55:16.680
<v Speaker 1>I am the most non social media, but I will

0:55:16.719 --> 0:55:19.520
<v Speaker 1>after this book comes out and has perfect Well, thank

0:55:19.520 --> 0:55:31.799
<v Speaker 1>you so much for joining us. Appreciate it. I absolutely

0:55:31.800 --> 0:55:34.160
<v Speaker 1>have such a girl crush on Ernestine. She's so funny.

0:55:34.239 --> 0:55:37.520
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to read her book. Mark. I know

0:55:37.600 --> 0:55:42.000
<v Speaker 1>you're a huge sports fan, and reading this book and

0:55:42.040 --> 0:55:43.760
<v Speaker 1>talking to her, I just think, oh, my poor wife,

0:55:45.800 --> 0:55:47.520
<v Speaker 1>did you put her through some of the stuff that

0:55:47.640 --> 0:55:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Ernestine was talking about? Do because my team, the Brewers,

0:55:50.480 --> 0:55:52.840
<v Speaker 1>any baseball team plays a hundred and sixty two games

0:55:52.840 --> 0:55:58.480
<v Speaker 1>a year and everyone is a big deal and you

0:55:58.520 --> 0:56:01.640
<v Speaker 1>watch every you watch hundred sixty two games not start

0:56:01.680 --> 0:56:03.960
<v Speaker 1>to finish. But if I'm not watching them, following it

0:56:03.960 --> 0:56:06.640
<v Speaker 1>on my phone, it's it's every game is a big deal.

0:56:06.680 --> 0:56:08.840
<v Speaker 1>And I know that's crazy to have so many games,

0:56:08.840 --> 0:56:11.640
<v Speaker 1>but I start, I do. We played four this afternoon,

0:56:11.719 --> 0:56:14.960
<v Speaker 1>we and I can't. I just getting at their lineup.

0:56:15.120 --> 0:56:19.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm like ready for this one, Like I'm ready every day. Listen.

0:56:19.680 --> 0:56:21.759
<v Speaker 1>I would look at the lineup or whatever it's called,

0:56:21.760 --> 0:56:24.239
<v Speaker 1>the roster when I was single, to see which guys

0:56:24.239 --> 0:56:25.920
<v Speaker 1>were cute, and then I'm like, oh, this team has

0:56:25.960 --> 0:56:28.360
<v Speaker 1>really cute guys. I'm gonna watch that team. Yeah, that

0:56:28.440 --> 0:56:31.759
<v Speaker 1>was my way of watching sports. Um, the Tories back

0:56:31.760 --> 0:56:34.400
<v Speaker 1>in studio and we're talking about some of the topics

0:56:34.400 --> 0:56:38.680
<v Speaker 1>and questions that you guys had on Instagram, and I

0:56:38.680 --> 0:56:41.000
<v Speaker 1>feel like this is a whole new like World Cup

0:56:41.120 --> 0:56:44.440
<v Speaker 1>living in with Instagram and social media and the etiquette

0:56:44.440 --> 0:56:46.200
<v Speaker 1>behind social media. I feel like we should have an

0:56:46.360 --> 0:56:50.840
<v Speaker 1>entire episode just on dating someone and having Instagram, the

0:56:50.880 --> 0:56:53.759
<v Speaker 1>etiquette Instagram. If you're dating someone and you see that

0:56:53.800 --> 0:57:00.680
<v Speaker 1>they're laking pictures of models, pictures of other women on Instagram?

0:57:00.800 --> 0:57:03.439
<v Speaker 1>What do you like? What is your brain telling you

0:57:03.760 --> 0:57:06.680
<v Speaker 1>is happening? And are you trying to should we be

0:57:06.800 --> 0:57:09.480
<v Speaker 1>decoding that kind of behavior or should we just be

0:57:09.520 --> 0:57:12.480
<v Speaker 1>like he's just liking the pictures. I don't have a

0:57:12.600 --> 0:57:15.400
<v Speaker 1>huge deal with it. On my behalf, I think that

0:57:15.520 --> 0:57:17.080
<v Speaker 1>it's like depending on the Like if it's like a

0:57:17.160 --> 0:57:20.440
<v Speaker 1>naked girl on a beach, then I'm like, what, that's

0:57:20.520 --> 0:57:22.800
<v Speaker 1>just also the fact that we can post those as

0:57:22.880 --> 0:57:25.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of swimming whatever, But I would have a hard

0:57:25.360 --> 0:57:28.640
<v Speaker 1>time with that. But like a bathing suit picture, I'm like, whatever,

0:57:28.680 --> 0:57:31.080
<v Speaker 1>it's like if he's throwing hard eyes at it, then

0:57:31.080 --> 0:57:32.960
<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, uh, yeah, no, we got a problem.

0:57:33.080 --> 0:57:35.560
<v Speaker 1>But the like, I think it's just it's it's literally

0:57:35.640 --> 0:57:38.000
<v Speaker 1>ornate in our bodies. Now. You scroll through and you like,

0:57:38.200 --> 0:57:40.040
<v Speaker 1>but it's not even you don't really take a beat

0:57:40.080 --> 0:57:41.360
<v Speaker 1>to be like, oh what am I liking? You're just

0:57:41.400 --> 0:57:44.600
<v Speaker 1>like cute, cool, yes, whatever, So I don't take it

0:57:44.640 --> 0:57:47.560
<v Speaker 1>as personal. In my behalf, I captain and I'm like, yeah,

0:57:47.560 --> 0:57:49.880
<v Speaker 1>that girl is hot, So I do get it, but

0:57:49.960 --> 0:57:52.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't take it personal because I'm also like, do

0:57:52.360 --> 0:57:55.760
<v Speaker 1>you know only editing apps that all us feels that

0:57:56.040 --> 0:58:02.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't here that's hilarious. I feel like, let me

0:58:02.840 --> 0:58:04.280
<v Speaker 1>just do it on my ways for you to teach

0:58:04.320 --> 0:58:12.000
<v Speaker 1>you exactly exactly. Crook at the stairs are rock Um.

0:58:12.040 --> 0:58:15.360
<v Speaker 1>I think for me it would be that's hilarious. I

0:58:15.360 --> 0:58:17.680
<v Speaker 1>think for me it's more of a how does that

0:58:17.720 --> 0:58:23.000
<v Speaker 1>make me look? So? Right? So if I you guys

0:58:23.000 --> 0:58:25.160
<v Speaker 1>see and this is not true at all, but like

0:58:25.240 --> 0:58:27.440
<v Speaker 1>let's say you see jobs laking a bunch of girls

0:58:27.440 --> 0:58:30.480
<v Speaker 1>on Instagram, we're probably thinking like, that's a lot of disresplake.

0:58:30.560 --> 0:58:33.360
<v Speaker 1>I kind of feel bad for Vanessa, like see, like

0:58:33.920 --> 0:58:37.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. That's how I when I get into relationship,

0:58:37.760 --> 0:58:40.600
<v Speaker 1>I always think I shift my mentality from how does

0:58:40.640 --> 0:58:43.040
<v Speaker 1>this affect me? To how does this affect us? So

0:58:43.080 --> 0:58:45.520
<v Speaker 1>my actions are going to be based on how will

0:58:45.560 --> 0:58:48.040
<v Speaker 1>this make my partner look? And I don't want him

0:58:48.080 --> 0:58:51.840
<v Speaker 1>to look stupid, So when and if my partner would

0:58:51.880 --> 0:58:54.440
<v Speaker 1>do something like that, that's how I would bring it up,

0:58:54.480 --> 0:58:57.240
<v Speaker 1>like this makes me feel and look a certain way.

0:58:57.840 --> 0:59:00.520
<v Speaker 1>I agree with Vanessa on this one. I think it's

0:59:00.520 --> 0:59:02.440
<v Speaker 1>a form of flirting. I really do. Now, it depends

0:59:02.440 --> 0:59:04.400
<v Speaker 1>on the situation. If it's a person he's known since

0:59:04.400 --> 0:59:06.160
<v Speaker 1>he was a kid and they grew up together and

0:59:06.200 --> 0:59:10.520
<v Speaker 1>it's not terribly provocative photo, fine, whatever. But if it's

0:59:10.520 --> 0:59:12.880
<v Speaker 1>a woman in a bikini and it doesn't know where that, well,

0:59:13.080 --> 0:59:15.800
<v Speaker 1>it's a flirt because you're sending a message when you

0:59:15.840 --> 0:59:18.200
<v Speaker 1>hit that like button, and what message are you trying

0:59:18.200 --> 0:59:21.120
<v Speaker 1>to send? It's not just I like your photo. That's

0:59:21.120 --> 0:59:23.120
<v Speaker 1>a nice photo. It's not that it is deeper than

0:59:23.520 --> 0:59:26.480
<v Speaker 1>because I get I actually do understand if it was

0:59:26.520 --> 0:59:29.080
<v Speaker 1>somebody that he didn't follow and was liking a photo,

0:59:29.280 --> 0:59:31.040
<v Speaker 1>I'd be a little bit like, that's kind of weird.

0:59:32.080 --> 0:59:33.880
<v Speaker 1>But I also feel like there's a double standard. Like

0:59:33.960 --> 0:59:40.680
<v Speaker 1>girls like guys with with like shirtless picks. You would

0:59:40.720 --> 0:59:42.680
<v Speaker 1>be offended if a girl if they're like on a

0:59:42.720 --> 0:59:45.280
<v Speaker 1>beach and you were like and like your wife or

0:59:45.320 --> 0:59:47.640
<v Speaker 1>not your wife, that's too hard. If so, if you're

0:59:47.720 --> 0:59:52.360
<v Speaker 1>dating someone and if I liked a guy who was shirtless,

0:59:52.360 --> 0:59:54.840
<v Speaker 1>that's just a friend or somebody that I followed, I'd

0:59:54.880 --> 0:59:57.000
<v Speaker 1>be pissed. If my guy came at me being like,

0:59:57.200 --> 0:59:59.560
<v Speaker 1>you're flirting because you're liking his pick, I'd be like,

0:59:59.680 --> 1:00:02.640
<v Speaker 1>are you kidding? So what what message are you sending

1:00:02.680 --> 1:00:06.640
<v Speaker 1>by hitting that like button? It's a great pick, is it? Though?

1:00:07.280 --> 1:00:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing. I'm here to support your wings post

1:00:10.640 --> 1:00:13.560
<v Speaker 1>whatever you want on Insta. I'll like your photo of

1:00:13.800 --> 1:00:15.880
<v Speaker 1>you got a brewerth game, you know, and I'm gonna

1:00:15.880 --> 1:00:18.160
<v Speaker 1>like a guy who maybe has a shirtless picture. You

1:00:18.200 --> 1:00:22.160
<v Speaker 1>like the picture of me and my daughter together like that,

1:00:22.280 --> 1:00:24.479
<v Speaker 1>but it's a guy who's half naked on the beach

1:00:24.520 --> 1:00:27.560
<v Speaker 1>and you don't know him that well, you're sending a message. Look,

1:00:27.760 --> 1:00:31.000
<v Speaker 1>you can like a photo without hitting that button, right,

1:00:31.080 --> 1:00:33.440
<v Speaker 1>I know that it's and everybody's so dialed in the

1:00:33.480 --> 1:00:35.280
<v Speaker 1>social media you can look at a picture go oh,

1:00:35.280 --> 1:00:37.280
<v Speaker 1>that's a nice picture and not press that button out

1:00:37.320 --> 1:00:39.440
<v Speaker 1>of respect for your part, right, I get it, and

1:00:39.640 --> 1:00:43.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't. And that's not to say that. Listen, once

1:00:43.000 --> 1:00:45.880
<v Speaker 1>you're dating someone, it's not like you can't find anyone

1:00:45.920 --> 1:00:49.160
<v Speaker 1>else attractive, Like that's just not no, that's not going

1:00:49.200 --> 1:00:53.880
<v Speaker 1>to happen. But to act upon those feelings is for me,

1:00:53.960 --> 1:00:58.680
<v Speaker 1>it's like just pump the brakes. That's a level okay,

1:00:58.680 --> 1:01:00.920
<v Speaker 1>then let's take us level deeper. If you're feeling like

1:01:00.960 --> 1:01:04.720
<v Speaker 1>that on social media, why even follow them? Should you.

1:01:04.840 --> 1:01:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Are you saying now you need to regulate who you're

1:01:07.000 --> 1:01:11.880
<v Speaker 1>dating profiles Instagram on who they're following, Yes you guys.

1:01:12.320 --> 1:01:14.760
<v Speaker 1>No no, no, no, no no no. I dated someone

1:01:14.920 --> 1:01:18.040
<v Speaker 1>that This is before like the ten months ago first

1:01:18.080 --> 1:01:21.200
<v Speaker 1>time I did the Girls Talk episode with Brandy and

1:01:21.360 --> 1:01:23.680
<v Speaker 1>this guy had come up to me. He's like outstating

1:01:23.720 --> 1:01:25.280
<v Speaker 1>him and he's like, oh, I don't want kids, and

1:01:25.280 --> 1:01:27.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, dude, we never even spoke about kids. And

1:01:28.240 --> 1:01:34.880
<v Speaker 1>he was liking so many like naked women, but like

1:01:35.000 --> 1:01:37.560
<v Speaker 1>not only naked, like naked almost naked women, you know,

1:01:37.640 --> 1:01:42.439
<v Speaker 1>like barely showing like barely like you know, clothed, And

1:01:42.560 --> 1:01:44.560
<v Speaker 1>I remember thinking like, I'm just gonna look past this

1:01:44.640 --> 1:01:47.600
<v Speaker 1>whatever or whatever. Fast forward like a couple of months later,

1:01:48.000 --> 1:01:51.240
<v Speaker 1>he just didn't want to have a serious relationship with me.

1:01:51.320 --> 1:01:53.400
<v Speaker 1>To me, that was an indication that's like, oh, you're cool,

1:01:53.400 --> 1:01:55.160
<v Speaker 1>I want to hang out with you, but also I

1:01:55.200 --> 1:01:58.560
<v Speaker 1>don't really like have I don't know if it's a

1:01:58.640 --> 1:02:02.520
<v Speaker 1>level of respect for the person that you're dating. For me,

1:02:02.560 --> 1:02:05.160
<v Speaker 1>actually it is. It's like if I'm yeah, if I'm

1:02:05.200 --> 1:02:07.919
<v Speaker 1>like really into someone, if a guy's dating me they're

1:02:07.920 --> 1:02:10.360
<v Speaker 1>really into me, then like, yeah, just like I said,

1:02:10.440 --> 1:02:12.760
<v Speaker 1>how does that make me feel? And how does that

1:02:12.840 --> 1:02:16.640
<v Speaker 1>make me look? So if you're if Josh goes is

1:02:16.640 --> 1:02:19.600
<v Speaker 1>like following Gidid and likes one of her model picks,

1:02:19.800 --> 1:02:22.960
<v Speaker 1>do you get offended by different? But that's work, that's work. See,

1:02:23.200 --> 1:02:26.040
<v Speaker 1>now we're setting up so many regulations. Homeboy can't even

1:02:26.080 --> 1:02:28.680
<v Speaker 1>press follow a bunch of bikini a bunch of bikini

1:02:28.720 --> 1:02:30.800
<v Speaker 1>models on Instagram. He should not be doing that, he

1:02:30.880 --> 1:02:33.880
<v Speaker 1>knows them. It shouldn't be that bad. If you're concerned

1:02:33.880 --> 1:02:35.600
<v Speaker 1>about a like, then you are you should you be

1:02:35.680 --> 1:02:38.240
<v Speaker 1>dating them. Here's the comparison I make. Let's say you're

1:02:38.240 --> 1:02:40.680
<v Speaker 1>on the beach with your boyfriend and a girl walks

1:02:40.680 --> 1:02:43.800
<v Speaker 1>by in a tiny, tiny bikini. Okay, bound to happen,

1:02:44.200 --> 1:02:46.080
<v Speaker 1>bound to happen, and he's bound to see that, and

1:02:46.080 --> 1:02:48.360
<v Speaker 1>he's bound to think, Wow, she's really hot. Yes, and

1:02:48.400 --> 1:02:51.520
<v Speaker 1>that's all perfectly fine. However, if he goes up to

1:02:51.600 --> 1:02:54.040
<v Speaker 1>and says hey, he says he says it. Nope, he

1:02:54.120 --> 1:02:55.760
<v Speaker 1>just thinks to himself, well, she's really hot, and then

1:02:55.800 --> 1:02:57.439
<v Speaker 1>you go back to your books. But if he walks

1:02:57.480 --> 1:02:59.919
<v Speaker 1>up to her and says, hey, you're really hot, that's

1:03:00.080 --> 1:03:03.960
<v Speaker 1>stepping over the line. That's different, that's not okay, And

1:03:04.000 --> 1:03:05.920
<v Speaker 1>that's what he's doing by hitting the like button. Like,

1:03:05.960 --> 1:03:09.680
<v Speaker 1>saying something in person is so different than doing a

1:03:09.760 --> 1:03:13.760
<v Speaker 1>like on Instagram. It's two different languages. I think a

1:03:13.800 --> 1:03:16.120
<v Speaker 1>like on Instagram is the equivalent of a silent thumbs up.

1:03:16.240 --> 1:03:18.640
<v Speaker 1>That's what I always think about, Like if you're walking

1:03:18.640 --> 1:03:20.560
<v Speaker 1>into Like if I'm walking down the street with my

1:03:20.560 --> 1:03:22.919
<v Speaker 1>wife and uh, there's a nice looking and the lady

1:03:23.080 --> 1:03:25.400
<v Speaker 1>and I just feel like I just don't say anything.

1:03:25.400 --> 1:03:26.840
<v Speaker 1>I just give this. I don't even smile, it just

1:03:26.880 --> 1:03:30.320
<v Speaker 1>thumbs up. I think that she'd be like, hey, what

1:03:30.400 --> 1:03:32.480
<v Speaker 1>was that? Like, I'm not that it's it's like like

1:03:35.520 --> 1:03:38.720
<v Speaker 1>I think that's the same thing, and but I don't

1:03:38.720 --> 1:03:43.440
<v Speaker 1>do that. And furthermore, I mean, Tory, we're friends, right, Yeaum,

1:03:43.480 --> 1:03:45.640
<v Speaker 1>I follow you on Instagram. I like the crap out

1:03:45.640 --> 1:03:48.200
<v Speaker 1>of your pictures. If you posted like a bikini picture,

1:03:48.640 --> 1:03:50.440
<v Speaker 1>I would not be double top. This happened to me

1:03:50.440 --> 1:03:52.920
<v Speaker 1>because I'm friends with Tanya rad and she posted a

1:03:52.920 --> 1:03:54.480
<v Speaker 1>picture on the beach of her in a bikini and

1:03:54.480 --> 1:03:56.080
<v Speaker 1>it was just butt cheeks and like, there was no

1:03:56.120 --> 1:04:00.360
<v Speaker 1>way I'm liking that photo. No disrespect makes it weird

1:04:00.400 --> 1:04:03.800
<v Speaker 1>though whatever the coworker makes it a little bit Like

1:04:03.880 --> 1:04:05.520
<v Speaker 1>for me and my gun, I'm still like, well, yeah,

1:04:05.560 --> 1:04:08.439
<v Speaker 1>you're a coworker, you shouldn't maybe, But in my head,

1:04:08.720 --> 1:04:12.240
<v Speaker 1>if a guy is following someone and likes her photo,

1:04:12.600 --> 1:04:15.320
<v Speaker 1>I have way bigger issues now if he's calling like

1:04:15.440 --> 1:04:17.960
<v Speaker 1>naked girls and there's stuff and he's like de m ng.

1:04:18.160 --> 1:04:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Of course unraveling at the seams. But a like on

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<v Speaker 1>It's just you're saying, honestly, he shouldn't follow anybody else

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<v Speaker 1>He can have human emotions and you can even say

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<v Speaker 1>you say, yeah, she is really hot. Wow, And to

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<v Speaker 1>think about guy like wow, he's really Hansome. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>sure is. That's all fine because it's between the two

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<v Speaker 1>of you. But the second you let them know you've

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<v Speaker 1>feel that way, it's crossing a line. I agree. I

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<v Speaker 1>still believe what I believe. I wouldn't. Just don't act

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<v Speaker 1>we like shiny, beautiful things, right, just don't act upon them.

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<v Speaker 1>That is it. Well, I say, do what you won't

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<v Speaker 1>you want with my god. I think that's a great

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<v Speaker 1>Dan to Hey, we're going to San Francisco? Yes? When

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<v Speaker 1>is that next week? Yeah, it's the weekend after this weekend?

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<v Speaker 1>So the weekend after this weekend. You guys know how

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<v Speaker 1>much I have terrible luck traveling, so make sure you

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<v Speaker 1>pray for me. I get my luggages, I get there

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<v Speaker 1>in time. I'm only there for a couple of days.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very excited. I haven't been to San Francisco in

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<v Speaker 1>a really long time, so really looking forward to that

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<v Speaker 1>and especially to doing a podcast live face to face

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<v Speaker 1>with my boys with one boy. Thank San Francisco, Home

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<v Speaker 1>of the Giants, and thank you to Hotel v s

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<v Speaker 1>F San Francisco for taking care of us while we're there.

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<v Speaker 1>Are we um pitching? Are we doing? And like it's

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<v Speaker 1>a baseball game? Right? Because I started campaign right now

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<v Speaker 1>and Dan throughout the first person in Angels game he

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<v Speaker 1>has experience at that. You can give you some t

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<v Speaker 1>yes all right and an email quickly from anonymous. I've

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<v Speaker 1>had a little crush on my co worker for over

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<v Speaker 1>a year. The only problem is he has a long

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<v Speaker 1>distance girlfriend he's been with for around two years. Recently,

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of co workers hung out and we all

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<v Speaker 1>got pretty drunk. What surprised me was how flirty he

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<v Speaker 1>was towards me that even my co workers noticed. He

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<v Speaker 1>kept touching me, putting his arm around me, hugging me, etcetera.

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<v Speaker 1>At one point he was holding my hand. I would

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<v Speaker 1>never do anything out of respect for his girlfriend, but

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<v Speaker 1>in a strange way, it kind of felt right. The

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<v Speaker 1>weird thing is that we worked together the following day.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't act different. But is it strange that he

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't brought it up. I'm thinking he's probably just drunk.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't mean anything, but don't drunk actions speak sober thoughts,

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<v Speaker 1>so many feelings. Listen, Do you really want to start

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<v Speaker 1>a reallyationship with a guy who's showing you how he

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<v Speaker 1>is already in a relationship? To me, that's a warning sign.

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<v Speaker 1>So the only thing that I would bring up is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of putting him in his place because Tori, Like

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<v Speaker 1>Tori said, I'm the kind of girl that's like hold

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<v Speaker 1>my hoops and like take my nails off. So I

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<v Speaker 1>would kind of just captually bring it up and be like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, I know, like we're really um clirt,

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<v Speaker 1>not even plotatious, that we're really friendly with each other.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just want to say, like, it felt uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 1>for me because I know you have a girlfriend, so

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to stay like I didn't really appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>the way that you acted on behalf of your girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>That's something that I would say, but I guess some

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<v Speaker 1>people would just kind of let it go and not

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<v Speaker 1>say anything. I would let it go and not say

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<v Speaker 1>anything because of the other girlfriend. I think that I

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<v Speaker 1>think that drunk actions do speak the sober thoughts. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he probably has a little bit of a crush

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<v Speaker 1>on you, and that happens in relationships. It happens. People

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<v Speaker 1>eyes wander, people get little crushers and stuff. They like

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram pictures. Yes, but I think as long as that

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<v Speaker 1>girlfriends there, there is nothing thing you can do about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Until that girlfriend's out of the way, you just gotta

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<v Speaker 1>keep quiet about it. I'm like dead center in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle where I think drunk thoughts like liquor gives you

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<v Speaker 1>the courage to do something, but once you sober up,

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<v Speaker 1>the situation is still the exact same way. So if

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<v Speaker 1>he was, like even if he if he he does

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<v Speaker 1>have feeling, obviously sounds like he has feelings for her,

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<v Speaker 1>um and you have the liquid courage in you to

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<v Speaker 1>say or to be flirty or whatever. But until the

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<v Speaker 1>actual act is done where he separates from his girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing's going to happen. So it's like, I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>getting the courage to say things or do things because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he really said anything, but to

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<v Speaker 1>do be flirty and be bold. But at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, sober thoughts are I'm still with my girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 1>and he probably won't break up with his girlfriend. No,

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<v Speaker 1>And Vanessa's got a good point there that if if

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<v Speaker 1>you start dating him and then he's drunk with some

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else somewhere, he may be all over them, So

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<v Speaker 1>keep that in mind. M That's just some food for thought,

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean, he's all giving you a little glimpse

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<v Speaker 1>of his actions, you know, and whether that's like dude,

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<v Speaker 1>like people are in relationships and there's a point in

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<v Speaker 1>the relationship where you're miserable, well not you're not, not

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<v Speaker 1>definitely miserable, but that's the point in a relationship where

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<v Speaker 1>you're not happy, and that's okay, and that you want

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure you're with someone in those low times

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<v Speaker 1>that it's still going to treat you and make you

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<v Speaker 1>seem like the queen of the world in your eyes

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<v Speaker 1>and and everyone else's eyes. Drop the money, so you're

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<v Speaker 1>like that God. So I think we should end on

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<v Speaker 1>that high note. Ladies, make sure that you are the

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<v Speaker 1>queen and that your men or your woman or your

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<v Speaker 1>partner or whoever you're dating is treating you like you

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<v Speaker 1>know you need to be treated. So I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>give a very big thank you Tori, thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>coming in and opening up to us about your long

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<v Speaker 1>distance stuff. Eastern Mark, thank you so much for being

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<v Speaker 1>on the podcast today. Uh, and a very big thank

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<v Speaker 1>you to Ernestine schle Fannie Bayliss, who came in and

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<v Speaker 1>thank you to our listeners and to beach body, and

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