Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Katty Armstrong.
Speaker 2: And Getty and he Armstrong and Yetty. Did you watched
Speaker 2: India last night? Michael? Did you watch Anhima? I saw
Speaker 2: the Force Quarter? Oh really?
Speaker 3: How was it?
Speaker 2: It was great?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oklahoma's got to be worried. Indiana has the ability
Speaker 3: to come back on anybody anytime.
Speaker 2: I just love Indiana. Wow, how did you have that?
Speaker 2: I know you are. You are an idiot savant.
Speaker 4: If everybody is saying, uh, nobody can touch the Oklahoma
Speaker 4: City Thunder and you lose game one on your home court.
Speaker 2: That's sick. That gets your attention.
Speaker 3: What our grandma showers? No, it's not when your mom
Speaker 3: is a little gamy after exercize. It's something different, grandma showers.
Speaker 3: M good lord, it's not when granny needs to get
Speaker 3: the funk offer.
Speaker 2: Oh boy.
Speaker 4: And continuing updates of the feud that's shaking the earth,
Speaker 4: Trump Musk, there's an updates?
Speaker 2: Yeah, there actually is. Okay, it's kind of now. People
Speaker 2: are weighing in from the Peanut Gallory.
Speaker 3: It was something for Elon to retweet an impeachment tweet,
Speaker 3: although he made the point. I don't know if it
Speaker 3: was the same tweet or not. He made the point
Speaker 3: that if the Dems take the House, or he was saying,
Speaker 3: the tariffs are going to cause a recession, which is
Speaker 3: going to cause the Dems to take the House, and
Speaker 3: they will impeach Trump.
Speaker 2: That'll be the whole two years as lets you know.
Speaker 3: The National Review podcast the other day and they went around,
Speaker 3: if Dems take the House, will they impeach Trump?
Speaker 2: One hundred percent yes, every one of them. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't think they're wrong.
Speaker 3: I wonder over what, I don't know, pick anything, the
Speaker 3: Muslim band, the you know, whatever you want to do
Speaker 3: with Tariff's name.
Speaker 4: Something Harvard, something exactly. So this is not a rhetorical question.
Speaker 4: We don't have to answer it now. But what kind
Speaker 4: of person doesn't I mean, given how closely they worked
Speaker 4: for a while, even if it was kind of phony
Speaker 4: and just for politics and all, what kind of person
Speaker 4: doesn't like one or two tweets in pick up the
Speaker 4: phone and say, hey, this is getting kind of ugly.
Speaker 2: Let's talk.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't but I wouldn't engage in it in the
Speaker 3: first place. So it's kind of hard to put myself
Speaker 3: in that place. I'm putting myself in a place I
Speaker 3: would never get. I can't imagine reacting that way publicly.
Speaker 3: I just can't even imagine it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I just have always always been a
Speaker 4: believer in a not hitting send when you're angry, and
Speaker 4: b if it's a good idea to say it today,
Speaker 4: it'll still be a good idea tomorrow.
Speaker 2: So why don't you think about it?
Speaker 4: I think about how you want to play those cards
Speaker 4: and not shoot your mouthfall.
Speaker 3: I want to discuss the term alpha male after we
Speaker 3: do clips of the week, also, because that kept coming
Speaker 3: up yesterday.
Speaker 2: All right, very good.
Speaker 4: Now I'm not agreeing to it because I'm sort of
Speaker 4: sort of beta male. I'm also an alpha male and
Speaker 4: agree with Jack the alpha male.
Speaker 2: I'm a Charlie male. I'm way down of the road.
Speaker 2: I don't take murders from.
Speaker 3: Nobody or Delphi or something. It's Friday tradition, It's beloved.
Speaker 3: Let's take a fond look back at the week that was.
Speaker 3: It's cow clips of the week.
Speaker 2: Well breaking news, the lasser raptor mounted Border patrol agents.
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be big. The Slips of the week.
Speaker 3: Russia reeling from Ukraine's astonishing and unprecedented drone attacks.
Speaker 2: More than forty aircraft ablaze.
Speaker 4: We also have stronger tactical solutions. Our operation Spider Web
Speaker 4: yesterday proved that.
Speaker 2: I made it very clear. He said, we have no
Speaker 2: choice but to attack. With Elon Musk and Donald Trump
Speaker 2: are going through a divorce.
Speaker 5: You know, I was like disappointed to see the massive
Speaker 5: spending bow rank.
Speaker 2: Wat Elon Musk and I agree. I agree with Elon Musk.
Speaker 3: Elon and I.
Speaker 2: Had a great relationship. I don't know what well anymore.
Speaker 3: I was surprised Musk and writing time to drop the
Speaker 3: really big bomb.
Speaker 2: Trump is in the Epstein files. That is the real
Speaker 2: reason they've not been made public. And then he said
Speaker 2: he's got a problem. The poor guy's got a problem.
Speaker 2: President Trump tonight should sign an executive order and seize
Speaker 2: SpaceX tonight before midnight. Witnesses say Solomon was dressed like
Speaker 2: a gardener.
Speaker 4: Solomon brought eighteen Molotov cocktails for the park.
Speaker 2: He was about to use a makeshift flamethrower and all
Speaker 2: I saw was someone on fire.
Speaker 3: The Travel Band is indeed back, and nothing will stop
Speaker 3: us from Keeping America, saying, Chris.
Speaker 2: Scares the hell out of me. I've been doing this
Speaker 2: for forty years because we don't have I love people.
Speaker 6: Show and discus momination.
Speaker 2: What I have decided to do is to follow my
Speaker 2: own compass.
Speaker 1: I don't make my kids go to school the last
Speaker 1: couple of days of school.
Speaker 2: I don't see the point is how should eat a banana? Now?
Speaker 2: We don't pick it up and peel it like a primate. Instead,
Speaker 2: we use a knife and fork. In my target that
Speaker 2: used to have the pride section. It's now all USA.
Speaker 6: Heay.
Speaker 7: Just a few hours later, mom and dad and little
Speaker 7: sister Gizmo together eating a fish.
Speaker 2: Nancy has a headache and requires treatment. I will need
Speaker 2: about an hour and a bottle of USTe Spermonte.
Speaker 6: Show tap down the shade, Maybe we do man.
Speaker 2: So Michael's got his phone out with the light on,
Speaker 2: swaying back and forth.
Speaker 4: That's the wonder we were in a malaise in the
Speaker 4: seventies that pop music sucks the will to live out
Speaker 4: of me.
Speaker 3: The summer anthem. I blame Jimmy Carter for bread and
Speaker 3: and and the math works there. I blame bread for
Speaker 3: Jimmy Carter. They sucked the masculinity out of America.
Speaker 2: Speaking of the.
Speaker 3: NBA Finals last night, so uh, Indiana heavy underdogs they
Speaker 3: win at Okay see upset. Jay Z had put a
Speaker 3: million dollars down that OKC wins in five and now
Speaker 3: they would have to win four straight, which has only
Speaker 3: happened a couple of times in NBA history. But the
Speaker 3: story behind the story on that is he has three
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty million dollars invested in the company fan Fanatics,
Speaker 3: which is online sports gambling thing. He has three hundred
Speaker 3: and fifty million and now you've heard about that company
Speaker 3: because he invested a million dollars in the the bet.
Speaker 3: And obviously, even if he loses the fact that he
Speaker 3: got millions and millions of dollars in free advertisement for
Speaker 3: this company he's invested in, that's the whole point, right right, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: smart listening stunt. And he's married to current country music
Speaker 3: champion Beyonce.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: Now, other things that we teased, what are grandma showers?
Speaker 3: It's another way for families to celebrate newborn's. I guess
Speaker 3: it's caught on as a thing. The internet is clapped back,
Speaker 3: calling it peake narcissism. Okay, you found one tweet where
Speaker 3: somebody complained about it, But anyway, it's a new thing
Speaker 3: like reveal parties and whatever grandma showers or grand baby
Speaker 3: showers in addition to all the other things that you do,
Speaker 3: and then you post online and get like, so knock
Speaker 3: yourself out. If you're that sort of person, if you're
Speaker 3: incredibly social and you like that sort of thing.
Speaker 4: Go for it.
Speaker 2: I don't come from it. Don't demand everybody else go
Speaker 2: to it, please? Right?
Speaker 3: Ah? Okay, so I heard several times yesterday the whole well,
Speaker 3: what do you expect when you've got two alpha males?
Speaker 3: Trump and Elon going at it like that? How do
Speaker 3: you define alpha male? The way it's used thrown around
Speaker 3: all the time, not like the dictionary definition, but the
Speaker 3: way it's used all the time, because I think it's
Speaker 3: misapplied regularly. Just because you lose your temper and shoot
Speaker 3: off a bunch of stuff you didn't need to, that
Speaker 3: doesn't necessarily make you an alpha male or or or
Speaker 3: the other.
Speaker 2: I guess it's the other that's more important. Point. The
Speaker 2: fact that you don't do that doesn't mean you're not
Speaker 2: an alpha male. I mean, agree yeah, I don't. I
Speaker 2: don't use the term to mean that.
Speaker 3: I don't use the term ever because I think it's
Speaker 3: gotten all kinds of twisted in kind of weird ways that.
Speaker 2: I don't like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, No. To me, it's
Speaker 2: just it is a uh a.
Speaker 4: Dynamic man, a leader somebody others look up to, just
Speaker 4: in general.
Speaker 3: Okay, well that's interesting. Usually it goes with like kinda
Speaker 3: I think maybe this is my own head. But when
Speaker 3: people throw it around, it's kind of a loud, aggressive
Speaker 3: sort of person. And I was thinking about, remember, no,
Speaker 3: not to you.
Speaker 2: That's not the way I see it now.
Speaker 3: I think that's why it's used like with Elon and
Speaker 3: Trump yesterday and whenever you're around, And it's usually people
Speaker 3: like that. And and the reason I don't like that,
Speaker 3: I think your definition is better. I think about our
Speaker 3: our old boss, you know, radio Station be for this one,
Speaker 3: when we were doing soft rock.
Speaker 2: He was as like.
Speaker 3: Gentle and quiet and and and maybe even meek would
Speaker 3: be a fair word to put on him.
Speaker 2: As anybody's I've ever known. And he was in charge
Speaker 2: of the whole place and really really good at it.
Speaker 4: I would agree completely. Yeah, it's an interesting new sample
Speaker 4: and I don't think a lot of people would consider
Speaker 4: him alpha male. But he was in charge of everything
Speaker 4: and got that way for a reason and continued to
Speaker 4: be in charge of things throughout his career.
Speaker 2: So, uh yeah, what an interesting example.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he led through thoughtful uh consideration and conversation and
Speaker 4: good decisions.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah. Interesting.
Speaker 3: So I don't know, does that is he an alpha
Speaker 3: male or not? He's literally the alpha male affle person
Speaker 3: in that building.
Speaker 4: He might be the ultimate alpha male in that he
Speaker 4: is confident in the way he does things and if
Speaker 4: somebody came on like a blow hard, which is that negative,
Speaker 4: you know, kind of way to use the term, he
Speaker 4: would just wait.
Speaker 2: Him out and he would win that battle.
Speaker 3: If people were using the definition the way you use it,
Speaker 3: I have no problem with it whatsoever. But I think
Speaker 3: and I'm not a guy that believes that, you know,
Speaker 3: I don't like the toxic masculinity term or whatever, but
Speaker 3: I feel like that that's what they go for when
Speaker 3: they use the term alpha male. It's anybody that's like,
Speaker 3: what kind of a jackass really is an alpha male?
Speaker 3: You know, like, what's his name? Ramsey from the Cooking Show? Okay,
Speaker 3: so you yell at people in belittle. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't like using that sort of thing as like a
Speaker 3: you get a cool title for that.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Tell me what is an alpha male? Is that what
Speaker 3: we got going on here? The beating their chest and
Speaker 3: whizzing on each other's tree with Elon and Trump. All right,
Speaker 3: let's play who's your favorite Ramsey? Gordon Ramsey, Dave Ramsey
Speaker 3: or this is a streat Egyptian pharaoh Ramses the second? Actually,
Speaker 3: because I try to be careful with my money, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna go with dad. We have a winner alpha male
Speaker 3: thing way on in that, among other things we got
Speaker 3: coming up. Here's our text line four one five two
Speaker 3: nine five KFTC. My son is done with school and
Speaker 3: he's got big weekends planned with his friends and is
Speaker 3: about as excited as anybody can be. And I was
Speaker 3: trying to remember how great that feeling is when school
Speaker 3: gets out. It is something else.
Speaker 2: The high school parking lot, believe how hop happy you
Speaker 2: are now? And he's a high school now.
Speaker 3: So the high school parking lot was full of, you know,
Speaker 3: for the older kids who can drive cars, jam and
Speaker 3: music and laughter and everybody headed off to their summer
Speaker 3: lives whatever they are when you're fifteen through eighteen years old.
Speaker 2: Holy crap. Yeah, good times. Yeah, I'd say so.
Speaker 4: Enough politics for the moment. At least some interesting stories
Speaker 4: from the world of business and or science. Here's a
Speaker 4: startup wants to help parents rank their embryos for longevity. Actually,
Speaker 4: I should have alerted Katie that we're going to be
Speaker 4: talking about IVF.
Speaker 2: But once again, of the emphasis is on length of life.
Speaker 2: That's your health, among other things.
Speaker 4: Prospective parents using IVF will soon be able to rank
Speaker 4: embryos using genetic and other information in the hopes of
Speaker 4: extending the longevity of their offspring. According to this startup,
Speaker 4: Nucleus plans to charge six thousand dollars for an analysis
Speaker 4: of up to nine hundred conditions, including diseases that occur
Speaker 4: later in life in our major causes of death in
Speaker 4: older people, such as Alzheimer's disease, arts disease, and cancers.
Speaker 4: The company will analyze up to twenty embryos for you
Speaker 4: four six thousand dollars, some twenty five year old entrepreneur.
Speaker 2: Scientists. Dude, it might be legit, it might be Elizabeth Holmes.
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's kind of sort of similar to
Speaker 2: the analysis you had done, right, Katie, somewhat.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's more doing genetic testing that falls into my
Speaker 7: bloodline or into Drew's blood line.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's.
Speaker 7: It's pretty amazing. We're getting real close to playing god
Speaker 7: with some of these things.
Speaker 1: Though.
Speaker 3: Well, I know you wanted an embryo that would turn
Speaker 3: out to be a good dancer and have a really
Speaker 3: solid jaw line, so you had them screen.
Speaker 2: For that, right, that was tough priority. Actually, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: We don't know. I mean I could, I would I
Speaker 2: do it? I don't know, but I can.
Speaker 3: Obviously you'd love the idea of if you can genetically
Speaker 3: modify out the tendency and your family to have some
Speaker 3: horrible cancer. Well, we don't know what goes with that tendency.
Speaker 3: We don't know what's combined with that as a personality
Speaker 3: trade or other thing.
Speaker 2: We don't know. Yeah, it's conceivable. There's a tie there,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 4: I think I may have come up with some sort
Speaker 4: of philosophical dividing line, not that it do anybody any good,
Speaker 4: but because they mentioned that IVF, doctors and clinics routinely
Speaker 4: offered a test embryos for chromosomal abnormalities that could cause
Speaker 4: like down syndrome, or let prospective parents know that at
Speaker 4: risk of having a child with a lethal disease caused
Speaker 4: by a mutation in a single gene.
Speaker 2: I think everybody's.
Speaker 4: Pretty comfortable with eliminating negatives. It's when you start demanding
Speaker 4: quote unquote positives that it starts to get a little weird.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, you can screen for to make sure your
Speaker 4: child doesn't have a terrible debilitating condition or it's like
Speaker 4: super likely to get cancer or something like that. But taller,
Speaker 4: more handsome, Yeah, good dancer. That starts to get weird.
Speaker 3: Anytime you start playing this though, I'm thinking of several
Speaker 3: famous examples of people who really were ass kickers because
Speaker 3: the men in their family, the last couple of generations
Speaker 3: had died young. Yeah, and so they felt like they
Speaker 3: probably didn't have a lot of time, so they Mickey
Speaker 3: Mantle baseball player, not important stuff, but that's what motivated
Speaker 3: him as to to work as hard as he did.
Speaker 3: Teddy Roosevelt probably the best example. There's lots of them.
Speaker 2: So do we is it good for mankind to eliminate that?
Speaker 2: I don't actually know, But so.
Speaker 4: We're going to be a race of big good looking,
Speaker 4: shallow real estate agents. Not that there's anything wrong with
Speaker 4: real estate agents, but just kind of charmingly handsome, just
Speaker 4: but never any difficulties.
Speaker 2: Or dancing real estate agents. Dancing real estate we have
Speaker 2: great rhythm. You know.
Speaker 4: I should have known we'd get off on a tangent
Speaker 4: on this topic because it's such an interesting one. I've
Speaker 4: got a couple other things to talk about, including modular homes.
Speaker 4: If you think of modular homes as kind of a cheaper,
Speaker 4: somewhat embarrassing, you know, substitute for a real built house,
Speaker 4: think again. The technology is leapt forward and they're thinking
Speaker 4: it could be a fabulos thing for disaster sites.
Speaker 2: You were wrong, you idiot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're a stupid idiot and should take a long
Speaker 4: look at yourself. But Alta, Dina, California hurricane sites. It's
Speaker 4: all about the manufactured homes.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 7: Wall Street Journal this week published a guide on how
Speaker 7: people can pass frequent flyer miles down to their errors
Speaker 7: after they die.
Speaker 2: Tip number one fly into Newark. Wow, So why is
Speaker 2: this happening?
Speaker 8: Hold interesting?
Speaker 2: Okay, there are donuts all over the place today.
Speaker 3: I wrote up the elevator with someone several boxes of
Speaker 3: donuts or donuts all over the radio station. Today is
Speaker 3: National Donut Day, in which Tim Sanderford tweeted out, let's
Speaker 3: all agree that we should spell donut doug.
Speaker 2: H U T, which I've never spelled it that way.
Speaker 2: I'm just a do n ut guy. A rube. Does
Speaker 2: it make me a rube?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Okay, clearly does. That's the dividing line.
Speaker 4: We non rubes have secretly used that for a measuring
Speaker 4: stick all these years.
Speaker 2: That's pretty funny National Donut Day.
Speaker 3: I have not had one yet, as I had a
Speaker 3: very good weight on the scale this morning and I'm
Speaker 3: happy about that. It's funny how if you're losing weight,
Speaker 3: it motivates you to lose more weight and be more disciplined.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and when you're if you gain, it's like,
Speaker 3: what the hell difference does it make? I might as
Speaker 3: well to donate. And I was telling my son the
Speaker 3: same thing about working out yesterday. He felt like he
Speaker 3: could actually feel his arms being firmer, and I said, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's what really. You know, you start to get motivated
Speaker 3: lifting weights when you start to see results.
Speaker 2: You think, wow, I can change the way I look
Speaker 2: yeah and feel definitely.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I'm wracked with guilt now because I haven't been in
Speaker 4: the gym lately other than my weekly thing.
Speaker 3: That I gained like five to six pounds during whooping
Speaker 3: cough because of printing his own and laying around on
Speaker 3: all kinds.
Speaker 2: Of different things. And it's not good for me. My
Speaker 2: face as round as a basketball. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So back to what we were talking about before
Speaker 4: the break. I found this very interesting, partly because I've
Speaker 4: got this weird fixation with real estate and houses and
Speaker 4: that sort of thing. I just find them interesting. But
Speaker 4: they start this article talking about a guy in Alta,
Speaker 4: Dina's childhood home burnt down and he was determined to
Speaker 4: rebuild it as it was before the wildfires, which is
Speaker 4: kind of sentimental and sweet. I guess I would have
Speaker 4: just built the better, newer house, but anyway, he figured
Speaker 4: out his homes insurance policy would only cover a fraction
Speaker 4: of the estimated seven hundred grand to rebuild the house,
Speaker 4: not a big house at all. Then he stumbled across
Speaker 4: this company that sells prefabricated homes as pieces and factories,
Speaker 4: then assembles them on site.
Speaker 2: It's called Happy Homes HAPI.
Speaker 4: The company said it could build a home for two
Speaker 4: hundred grand less than the cost of a traditional construction
Speaker 4: and doing less than half the time. And they mentioned
Speaker 4: that the whole prefab house thing used to exist, like
Speaker 4: on the edges of home building as kind of low
Speaker 4: quality skews me houses. But they mentioned that now companies
Speaker 4: use modular construction, three D printing, or other non traditional methods,
Speaker 4: and they're trying to break into the mainstream by offering
Speaker 4: faster and less costly alternatives, especially in places ravaged by
Speaker 4: natural disasters. They're thinking that's their big opportunity.
Speaker 3: Interesting, well, they've always and there's always been really good
Speaker 3: versions of them. I've known plenty of people that had
Speaker 3: whatever you want to call them mobile homes or whatever,
Speaker 3: that were really really nice. But then I've lived in
Speaker 3: a couple that were incredibly crappy. I mean it's like
Speaker 3: the walls were were like paper.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah. So listen to this, would you.
Speaker 4: Jason Ballard's the chief executive for ic On, a company
Speaker 4: that makes three D printed homes. They use giants three
Speaker 4: D printers to squeeze layers of concrete into the framing
Speaker 4: for a house. And I'm looking at a picture right now,
Speaker 4: we can post this article at Armstrong and Giddy dot
Speaker 4: com under hot links.
Speaker 2: But they are they are concrete houses that look.
Speaker 4: Not like a rest stop bathroom. They've got a little contour,
Speaker 4: a little style.
Speaker 3: A little you're selling me this with the idea that
Speaker 3: this house looks like a rest stop bathroom.
Speaker 4: Well no, I just said it doesn't in a way
Speaker 4: that like concrete houses can. Being familiar both with fire
Speaker 4: country and hurricane country in my travels, some people decide,
Speaker 4: my priority is to build something that can withstand anything,
Speaker 4: but you got to be careful that it doesn't look
Speaker 4: like a rest stop bathroom.
Speaker 2: You're the third little pig exactly. Yes, And and these
Speaker 2: houses are pretty good looking.
Speaker 4: I mean, you're not gonna see them like in upscale
Speaker 4: custom home developments. But this is no El Chiapo Cheapo.
Speaker 4: In fact, this is the proverbial brick poop house.
Speaker 3: Interesting.
Speaker 2: Uh, I might throw a few bucks in investing in
Speaker 2: one of these places.
Speaker 3: I lived in a mobile home in college for my
Speaker 3: senior year, my final year of college, and my roommate
Speaker 3: and I Rusty and I lived there and it was
Speaker 3: the rent was one hundred and twenty dollars a month.
Speaker 2: And I'm old. But that was nothing then, I mean
Speaker 2: that was nothing.
Speaker 3: Then it was ridiculous. We paid sixty two dollars and
Speaker 3: fifty cents each in rent every month.
Speaker 2: Wow, that wasn't per man that was the total. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and people were laughing. Then it's And it was such
Speaker 2: a crap hole. It was just like it was made
Speaker 2: out of paper.
Speaker 3: And there were mushrooms around the toilet because the carpet
Speaker 3: had gotten so wet for so many years.
Speaker 2: Actually was growing fung guy up out of the floor.
Speaker 2: Oh man, if it was windy, your hair would get
Speaker 2: messed up. Yeah.
Speaker 4: When I was a kid, we lived in a ground
Speaker 4: floor apartment, crappy apartment complex, and it would rain and
Speaker 4: there would be all sorts of leaks and there would
Speaker 4: be mushroom in the carpets in the hallways, not inside park.
Speaker 3: Okay, I thought I was the only one that had
Speaker 3: ever had mushrooms indoors, like a No, this is in
Speaker 3: suburban Chicago land kind of working class back in the seventies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: It was pretty nasty, but you know what, my Paris
Speaker 3: worked hard and got us out of there and on
Speaker 3: the bigger and better things. Well, on the upside is
Speaker 3: a college kid of living in a crappy place is
Speaker 3: you don't have to worry that much about taking care
Speaker 3: of it. And we would have We would play darts
Speaker 3: a lot, and we put the dart board all the
Speaker 3: way down the hallway in the kitchen, and you have
Speaker 3: to try to throw the dart so hard and.
Speaker 2: Flat like a like a like a baby pitch to
Speaker 2: really fire.
Speaker 3: Yeah, through the hallway all the way to the kitchen,
Speaker 3: maybe constantly sticking in the walls of the ceiling room.
Speaker 4: Places like crap, right right, yeah, So this is an
Speaker 4: interesting story from the world of science that perhaps I
Speaker 4: don't know, Donald J. Trump and Elon Musk might listen to.
Speaker 4: Really interesting. The neuroscience of vengeance. Hmmm, now you got
Speaker 4: my attention.
Speaker 3: It can be as addictive as drugs. I like to
Speaker 3: serve piping hot. How should you serve vengeance?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: No, no again, you rue no cold?
Speaker 3: Uh? And that forgiveness works like detox neurologically speaking, can
Speaker 3: you get addicted to revenge?
Speaker 2: Wow? This this writer is actually talking about This is.
Speaker 3: A troubling notion. And I think I can pick people
Speaker 3: I feel like I've done that in their lives. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: or family, you know what this is so interesting.
Speaker 2: It's longish.
Speaker 4: He talks about his childhood and some really significant ugly
Speaker 4: stuff as a kid, and his family and revenge, and
Speaker 4: then he says, I didn't get revenge that night, but
Speaker 4: I eventually went into the professional revenge business. I became
Speaker 4: a lawyer. The way I saw lawyers get paid a
Speaker 4: lot for selling revenge to the masses. Wow, and getting
Speaker 4: revenge from my clients occupied the next twenty years of
Speaker 4: my life. And then then he says how it affected
Speaker 4: his life, and he said, it seems like I was
Speaker 4: addicted to revenge, but so were people everywhere.
Speaker 2: Gives a bunch of examples. I began to hate what
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 4: For a living and descended into a professional and psychological crisis.
Speaker 4: One night, I found myself alone contemplating suicide. Can you
Speaker 4: become addicted to revenge? I stopped being a litigator and
Speaker 4: spent much of the next two decades trying to find out.
Speaker 2: Wow, Yeah, isn't that crazy.
Speaker 3: Don't you feel like you've known people that seem to
Speaker 3: be addicted to revenge? They're always they've always like they're
Speaker 3: always trying to.
Speaker 2: Get back at somebody.
Speaker 3: Just seems so time consuming and obviously takes up a
Speaker 3: lot of your mental efforts.
Speaker 4: I think we've all known families like that, that everybody
Speaker 4: wants to have a psychological advantage over someone else because
Speaker 4: they've been wrong.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I haven't.
Speaker 4: It's yeah, break and I'll come back and tell you
Speaker 4: about We got some of the things the scientists figured out.
Speaker 2: We got a little tribute to D Day. We're going
Speaker 2: to do when we come back. I don't know, Sorry, No,
Speaker 2: it's going to be. Yeah, why don't we We got
Speaker 2: revenge on the Nazis? All right, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 4: Let's let's spend another minute ninety seconds on this then,
Speaker 4: and we'll come back with the D Day thing, because
Speaker 4: I absolutely love that idea.
Speaker 2: So anyway, this guy becomes obsessed.
Speaker 4: With the idea of being addicted to revenge, and he
Speaker 4: mentions that science right around them. Right around then, around
Speaker 4: twenty oh four or so, we're starting to get really
Speaker 4: good at brain scans and that sort of thing. Turns
Speaker 4: out that your brain on revenge looks very much like
Speaker 4: your brain on drugs. In an zero four study in
Speaker 4: the journal Science, participants were given the opportunity to retaliate
Speaker 4: against players who betrayed them during economic games, but at
Speaker 4: the cost of bankrupting themselves. PET scans of the brains
Speaker 4: showed activation of the dorsal stradium, part of the circuitry
Speaker 4: involved in habit formation and dediction. Then he describes a
Speaker 4: similar study. The brains of participants who did not seek
Speaker 4: revenge showed successful intervention by the prefrontal cortex, the area
Speaker 4: of the brain responsible for executive function and self control,
Speaker 4: which appears to be hijacked during addiction.
Speaker 3: Wow, I'm glad I've never had that happen. I think
Speaker 3: I feel like part of it is I'm too lazy
Speaker 3: for this. Grievances I have too bad a memory. I
Speaker 3: can't remember who I'm supposed to be angry at. Grievance
Speaker 3: is real or imagined, appear to cue the brain to
Speaker 3: crave revenge in much the same way that stress and
Speaker 3: anxiety are seeing. Drug paraphernalia or places or drug use
Speaker 3: cue the brains of addicts to crave narcotics.
Speaker 2: You crave revenge just like drugs.
Speaker 4: Addiction scientists describe this mechanism as part of the brain
Speaker 4: system for maintaining balance between pleasure and pain, calibrated partly
Speaker 4: by levels of dopamine blah, blah blah. You can be
Speaker 4: addicted to revenge and your brain looks just like a
Speaker 4: drug addict.
Speaker 2: How crazy is that? Well, watch out for that, I guess, and.
Speaker 3: Knowing that if it is an addiction, like all addictions,
Speaker 3: it's something you could get away from with effort. Probably Yeah. Wow,
Speaker 3: I hope we've helped at least one person with the
Speaker 3: show today. Well, we the Allies got revenge on the
Speaker 3: Nazis eighty one years ago. Today take that eight off, huh,
Speaker 3: A little tribute to that when we come back.
Speaker 8: This is London, London calling in the Home Overseas and
Speaker 8: European services of the BBC and through United Nations Radio Mediterranean,
Speaker 8: and this is John snag Speed, Supreme Headquarters, Allied Expeditionary
Speaker 8: Forts have just issued Communicate number one, and in a
Speaker 8: few seconds I will read it TOIL. Communicate number one.
Speaker 8: Under the command of General Eisenhower, Allied naval forces supported
Speaker 8: by strong air forces began landing Allied armies this morning
Speaker 8: on the northern coast of France. I repeat that Communica
Speaker 8: Communica number one, under the command of General Eisenhower, Allied
Speaker 8: naval forces supported by strong air forces began landing Allied
Speaker 8: Armies this morning on the northern coast of France. This
Speaker 8: ends the reading of Communicate number one from Supreme Headquarters,
Speaker 8: Expedition Revolse Ah.
Speaker 3: That was the very first announcement anywhere in the world
Speaker 3: that D Day had begun. And if you haven't watched
Speaker 3: Saving Private Ryan for that opening scene, what that would
Speaker 3: have been like I was in my mind as he
Speaker 3: was reading that.
Speaker 2: Of course.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's worth remembering is those words were being read.
Speaker 4: Everybody's like, oh my god, the effort to retake France's begun,
Speaker 4: and D Day might end up being disaster Day. Sure,
Speaker 4: the loss of you know, Europe to the Fascist Day,
Speaker 4: it might not have worked.
Speaker 3: And that was BBC, you know, broadcasting out of London,
Speaker 3: which just a couple of years earlier had been almost
Speaker 3: bombed out of existence, so not an academic matter for
Speaker 3: them at all. It reminded me hearing.
Speaker 2: That guy's voice.
Speaker 3: So just a few weeks ago in May, remember, we
Speaker 3: celebrated the eightieth anniversary of Victory in Europe Day and
Speaker 3: it got a lot of attention and we talked about.
Speaker 2: It a lot.
Speaker 3: I heard a feature on Public Radio NPR are a
Speaker 3: long like our long, full hour long feature on that
Speaker 3: was unbelievable. It was the best that sort of thing
Speaker 3: I'd ever heard in my life. As they went through
Speaker 3: the day from broadcast to broadcast New York, London, various cities,
Speaker 3: as the world became aware of the world of the
Speaker 3: war ending, and then statements from Churchill and Truman and
Speaker 3: whoever else, and it was just absolutely fantastic. And one,
Speaker 3: I was thinking, God, there's so many people I know
Speaker 3: would love this. I wish I could lurk to them
Speaker 3: to hear this. And two, of course, you can pull
Speaker 3: off something this fantastic. You don't have to live by
Speaker 3: the regular rules of commercial radio because you get taxpayer funding,
Speaker 3: so you can pull off something this complicated and expensive
Speaker 3: to put together.
Speaker 2: But it was so good.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's available online or what. I'd
Speaker 3: never and I'd been a World War two buff for
Speaker 3: so many years and taken in so much so I'd
Speaker 3: never heard anything that good about the end of the
Speaker 3: warner ever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, I'd like to hear that. I'll
Speaker 4: have to dig into some good d Day stuff today.
Speaker 3: Well, it's just it's hard to, I think, for a
Speaker 3: lot of people to conceive of the fact that we
Speaker 3: could have lost.
Speaker 2: It didn't have to turn out the way it turned
Speaker 2: out to where the good.
Speaker 4: Guys won, right, Yeah, which is why I made my comment,
Speaker 4: because it's easy to look back at history as inevitable
Speaker 4: or well, of course it was going to come out
Speaker 4: one way or another, or everybody knew. D Day meant
Speaker 4: that the victory was on the way now, right. It
Speaker 4: was very iffy and many months of bloody battles followed.
Speaker 5: You know, it's time for the final thought with Tom
Speaker 5: strug at Getty and you know, we hope it's about
Speaker 5: Elog because he went bad. He went so bad. He's
Speaker 5: a nasty guy, a nasty guy. We also heard that
Speaker 5: Joe's coming out with a new party called the Empiolic Kids.
Speaker 5: What a terrible idea, just to disgrace of a day,
Speaker 5: but the party and Joe's been an oyal guy, but
Speaker 5: now he's turning like e love. We Hopie comes to
Speaker 5: his Sits is a bunday, but.
Speaker 2: We'll have to see. That's kind of a combo Donald
Speaker 2: Trump Darth Vader thing there. I don't know what that is.
Speaker 2: It is pretty amusing. Yeah, here's you crically done. Who
Speaker 2: did that? As great? Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe.
Speaker 4: Getty, Hey, let's get a final thought from everybody on
Speaker 4: the crew to wrap things up for the day, beginning
Speaker 4: with our technic Cule director Michaelangelo. Michael final thought, all Right,
Speaker 4: I've decided I have got to get good at AI.
Speaker 3: I've got to find the best you know, Chat GBT,
Speaker 3: all the different AI apps and get good.
Speaker 2: At this stuff. Yeah, yeah, you might as well. We
Speaker 2: all need to. Katie Green are Esteemed Newswoman. As a
Speaker 2: final thought, Katie.
Speaker 7: I am one hundred percent chot team chat GPT. I'm
Speaker 7: using it more and more every day.
Speaker 3: It's something and then once once you get started in
Speaker 3: the habit, it's just it's it's there for so many things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 3: Jack. Final thought for us, I am fighting so hard
Speaker 3: the desire to eat a donut. Their donuts everywhere. I'm starving.
Speaker 3: It's National Donut Day. I feel like I'm a bad
Speaker 3: American if I don't take one.
Speaker 2: In something or something. Yeah.
Speaker 4: My final thought is getting back to the whole addicted
Speaker 4: to vengeance thing I was reading about. You know that
Speaker 4: feeling you get when somebody like cuts in line or
Speaker 4: is driving like a moron, and you really want to
Speaker 4: punish him, and you're imagining what you'd like to do.
Speaker 4: That pleasure is what people get addicted to actually doing.
Speaker 2: Hanson just came in with the box of donuts and
Speaker 2: waved them around my head. That was cool, not helpful.
Speaker 2: I was not helpful. Hey, why does he want me
Speaker 2: to be fat?
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Speaker 2: Is an unpredictable beast. What a powerful metaphor. I was wondering.
Speaker 2: You know what you felt about that? Whatever you say
Speaker 2: that and child, listen, it's one final message.
Speaker 1: It's child to put this word behind us. Just count down, Shade,
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