1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty. 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Jetty and know he Armstrong and Jetty. 4 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 3: There has been no proof of life at all, and 5 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 3: we've talked to the sheriff here about that. He says 6 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 3: he believes that she is alive, but that is a 7 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 3: belief based on hope and on a positivity to keep 8 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 3: detectives and investigators engaged and optimistic to each. 9 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 4: Their own And I have no idea what I'd do 10 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 4: if I was in that circumstance, but I feel like 11 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 4: i'd say to the sheriff, ain't interested in hope is 12 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 4: a strategy, Let's just go with likelihoods, facts, etc. 13 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't guess that's what's happening. I just think, 14 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 2: until you know somebody's dead, as if they're alive. 15 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 4: Well I get that, but he states I think she's 16 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 4: still alive, and when they ask him, he says, just 17 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 4: hoping it's true. Okay, Well, then don't state you think 18 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 4: she's alive. Okay, I don't know what you're doing. 19 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 2: We're going to proceed as if she is alive. That's 20 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: fine for Yeah, that's that's absolutely fine. See I just 21 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: interpret the one as saying the other. 22 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 4: So I've only heard one FBI analyst say this, but 23 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 4: I think it's true. They're negotiating with wackos, they're you know, 24 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 4: grasping at straws. You might as well why not go 25 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 4: on TV and say, hey, we're willing to pay, and 26 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 4: hope that there is somebody out there that's told her. 27 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 4: But I think the most likely thing at this point 28 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 4: is it was never a for ransom thing, or if 29 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 4: it was a for ransom thing, they botched it and 30 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 4: she's dead and. 31 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: Invasion gone wrong. 32 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 4: But I don't think something All the experts are saying. 33 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 4: This is not like any ransom situation we've ever dealt with. 34 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 4: They immediately go to the family, not to media. They 35 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 4: immediately show you here, we've got here. Here, here's proof 36 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 4: that we've got here, here's where you send them. None 37 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 4: of that is happening, right Chris, which is horrible. 38 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 2: Here's your headline of the day, RFK Junior went dinosaur 39 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 2: bone hunting with Jeffrey Epstein and Julane Maxwell. That's pretty 40 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 2: good headline. That's a pretty good headline. There's a lot there. 41 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: I wonder if you've found any dead bears while he's 42 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 2: dinosaur hunting. 43 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 4: I got a couple more Super Bowl things maybe later 44 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 4: in the hour. Here's my favorite quote, quote from Chris 45 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 4: Collinsworth in the fourth quarter. If you can't stop a 46 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 4: four man rush, you're not gonna win. So even at 47 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 4: one point once he had only rushed four guys, it's 48 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 4: your entire line. They all got through. I mean, it 49 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 4: was just that is that is a bad situation. Those 50 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 4: people that had to be so demoralizing those poor linemen. 51 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 4: You guy just runs by you. You're like, I don't 52 00:02:58,280 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 4: what am I supposed to do? I'm not as fast 53 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 4: as they? What would you like me to do? 54 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: Get faster? I wish I could. Yeah. Unfortunately both sides 55 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: of that four man rush. Coin explained the Seattle Seahawks 56 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 2: in my beloved forty nine ers games. Just one team 57 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: could stop the other team and protect their quarterback. The 58 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: other could not. 59 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 4: Does anybody ever say that, I suppose you don't say 60 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 4: that during a game where you go back to the 61 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 4: coach and say. 62 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 2: Here's the problem. He's way faster and stronger than me. 63 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: So well, actually, yeah, the coach, you know, we got 64 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 2: to get him some help. He's outmatched. 65 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then they would pull back all their players, 66 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 4: but you got nobody to throw to. 67 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 2: Everybody around and protect him. And the quarterback's like, what 68 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: am I supposed to do now, Arra throw it to 69 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 2: myself and try to run a little bit. Yeah, it was. 70 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: It was a domination Seattle. Just the second half the 71 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: season was dominant. 72 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 4: So among stories that got a lot of attention last week, 73 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 4: and I thought this was really good from ABC this week. 74 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 4: I love Sarah i isger She's one of the best 75 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 4: political pundits in America. It's almost unfortunate that she's also 76 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 4: a young mom cranking out kids and that's her priorities, 77 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 4: so she doesn't have enough time to write or broadcast 78 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 4: as much stuff as I'd like to hear because she's 79 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 4: so good. But Sarah is gir on ABC this week 80 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 4: on the topic of Trump saying he wanted to nationalize elections. 81 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 4: Trump's going to nationalize elections. He's just like Hitler. This 82 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 4: is what Sarah isgerhead to say about that. 83 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: Well, once again we're seeing both parties switch sides. It 84 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: had actually been the Democratic Party that had been in 85 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 1: favor of nationalizing voter registration, for instance, and having the 86 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: federal government play a bigger role in our elections. And 87 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: it was Republicans who said, no, it's actually far more 88 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,239 Speaker 1: secure to have fifty separate elections. And so once again 89 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: we see both sides switch. Democrats are discovering federalism and 90 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: why in fact, when you have a president that you 91 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: don't like and you don't have control over which president's 92 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: going to win, you may actually want states to be 93 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: in control. And it's Republicans now, who seem to have 94 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: a very short memory attention span, who say, why don't 95 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: we nationalize the election for three years and then definitely 96 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: we'll never lose another presidential election. 97 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 4: Again, she's a conservative, by the way, she was the 98 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 4: best who worked in the Trump Justice Department if you're 99 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 4: wondering where she comes from. But yeah, how is that 100 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 4: the only person I've heard point that out that Wait 101 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 4: a second, Democrats, you've been for nationalizing elections for years. 102 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 2: It's just exhausting. It is exhausting. Carramba, Okay, take a 103 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 2: deep breath, Joseph forge ahead, be a brave little man. 104 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 2: El Gordo, what I thought we all spoke Spanish? 105 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 4: Now you call me the fat one? 106 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 2: Is that gonna buck me up a little bit? Me 107 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: and Mike Tyson side by side eating a court of 108 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: ice cream per hour, three and forty five pounds. Oh boy, 109 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: my weight is up. My buddy Brad every year at 110 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 2: Super Bowl party he brings this giant pan of slow 111 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: smoked ribs that he's been working on, you know all day. 112 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 4: Oh, I did not eat anything that healthy. I ate 113 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 4: lots of Michelangelo's dip. I ordered a couple of pizzas. 114 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 4: It was not a good day of eating, though. 115 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 2: Pizza pizzas are fine food fine. You got your You 116 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 2: got your dairy group, you got your vegetables there in 117 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 2: the sauce, you get your bready bread group, you got 118 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: your meat group. 119 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 4: I do this thing where I exercised before your big 120 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 4: eating days. I feel like that might not work the 121 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 4: way I think it works. I think it justifies in 122 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 4: my mind going further than I would normally. I think 123 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 4: it's a net loss. 124 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 2: Oh see, you exercise three hundred calories worth and think 125 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: all right and eat six hundred. Those are some low numbers. 126 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 4: I uh, I might exercise three hundred calories worth and 127 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 4: then eat two thousand calories. 128 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 2: I was trying more than mind. 129 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 4: So I went out and went on a long bike 130 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 4: ride on a beautiful day. Then ate like a like 131 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 4: Mike Tyson, like fat Mike Tyson. 132 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: No boy gotta eat real food, just like iron, Mike says, 133 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 2: So let me pay often. We don't have to talk 134 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 2: about it anymore because it's unpleasant. It's rape and everything. 135 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 2: But mentioned at the end of last hour. The federal 136 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 2: jury in Arizona found that Uber was liable for a 137 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: woman being raped by one of the drivers and is 138 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,239 Speaker 2: responsible for paying her eight and a half million dollars. 139 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 2: The plaintiff's legal team argued that Uber failed to implement 140 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 2: adequate measures to protect passenger safety despite advertising safe rides, 141 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 2: and that the company had opposed measures requiring cameras inside 142 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 2: its vehicles. The plaintiffs had sought one hundred and forty 143 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 2: four million dollars in damages, but the jury did not 144 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 2: find the company liable for negligence. Blah blah blah, blah 145 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 2: blah blah. We don't need to get that far into 146 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 2: the weeds. Spokesman for Uber said in a statement that 147 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 2: the verdict quote affirms that Uber acted responsibly and is 148 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 2: invested meaningfully in riders' safety. We will continue to put 149 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 2: safety at the heart of everything we do. That is 150 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 2: a great corporate statement. Having lost the lawsuit, this is 151 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 2: one of those if you can get the jury on 152 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 2: your side, there's no science tif a test for have 153 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 2: you made your ride safe enough or not right? 154 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 4: And expecting perfection? Got how many Uber drivers there are 155 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 4: there in the country. You might have that number in 156 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 4: that article. I don't know. 157 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 2: It's got to be a lot, and the number of 158 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 2: rides per year. 159 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 4: And you have to get not one employee that ever 160 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 4: does this sort of thing. 161 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 2: It might be impossible. A couple of kind of head 162 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 2: scratching points, and I would explain them to you, but 163 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. The company emphasized that the amount awarded 164 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 2: was far below what the plaintiffs and sought in the case, 165 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,599 Speaker 2: and that no punitive damages were awarded. They're going to 166 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 2: appeal the decision. While the plaintiff reported the incident, which 167 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: occurred in November of twenty three, to police, officials never 168 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 2: made an arrest or brought charges against the suspect. Wow, 169 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 2: what's going on there? 170 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 4: Because I would have to assume because there wasn't enough 171 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 4: evidence to go forward. 172 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 2: I would guess I can't come up. So there there's 173 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 2: a record obviously who the uber driver. 174 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 4: Was, right, So there wasn't enough to charge with a crime, 175 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 4: but you could still get the gazillion dollar judgment, which 176 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 4: reminds me of what we were talking about last week, 177 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 4: the whole roundup causes lymphoma case where the jurors ordered 178 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 4: I think it was ninety million dollars, even though the 179 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 4: science doesn't say that's possible. And it gets to the 180 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 4: trial that starts today. Jury selection is over, but the 181 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 4: actual arguments begin today in the social media trial. And man, 182 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 4: I could see a jury or is it a judge? 183 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 2: I think it's a jury. I see a jury. 184 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 4: Google is Zuckerberg, they're so rich, hit them with a 185 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 4: billion dollars even though there's not. 186 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 2: Real solid science about any of this. Well, right, and 187 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 2: that specific question, did that cause my relatives to commit suicide? 188 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: Was it? I think? 189 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 5: Or? 190 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 2: Man, there's a hell of a thing, A lot of 191 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 2: things that go into being really really mentally unhealthy. Social 192 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 2: media is part of it. But what part of it? 193 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,719 Speaker 2: How much of it? Yeah? Tough one. 194 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 4: So I just think about the Uber thing. So if 195 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 4: a McDonald's employee commits a rape, is McDonald's on the hook. 196 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 4: It gets to be you'd have to be at the McDonald's, 197 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 4: although that's not the same as an Uber car. 198 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 2: I don't know. No, it's tough to compare the two circumstances. 199 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 2: Is there any other circumstance you could compare it to? 200 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 4: But I just think a company be on the hook 201 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 4: for all their employees and everything they do. 202 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, the attorneys can convince the jury they didn't 203 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 2: do enough to keep their customers safe. They should have 204 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 2: known that there was a danger. Blah blah blah. 205 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 4: Well they having a camera in the car is going 206 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 4: to be a cost thing. People provide their own cars, 207 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 4: and so I'm a teacher and I want to pick 208 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 4: up a few extra dollars driving Uber now and then 209 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 4: I'll use my own car. But now I have to 210 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 4: spend I don't know how many hundreds of dollars you'd 211 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 4: have to spend to install a camera system in recording device. 212 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 2: It wouldn't be cheap, wouldn't they. I've actually been in 213 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 2: number that had the cameras I think for there probably yeah, probably, yeah, Yeah, 214 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 2: I don't know what that casts. It wouldn't be nothing. Michael. 215 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: Let's end with ninety one. Let's end the segment with 216 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 2: ninety one. Do you want to mention anything we're going 217 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 2: to talk about coming up, Jack or I'm sure we 218 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 2: just end it clean as we say we're gonna end 219 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 2: it clean, all right? Oh, coming up? Gavin Newsom is 220 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,359 Speaker 2: very similar to Kamala Harris. Super smart guy making the comparison. 221 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 2: He's doomed, doomed, I tell you, But first, Mike Tyson and. 222 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 6: We're doing we're drinking and eating so much sugar that's 223 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 6: even becoming narcotic. And we're getting addicted to We haven't 224 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 6: become an ad before we even know it being addicted to. Shoot, 225 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 6: they should have pretty much of a narcotic. So we 226 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 6: all love sugar. I'm one of those people too. So 227 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 6: we have to change a pad in the leading in 228 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 6: order to be really the strongest country in the world. 229 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 4: That words, live by Mike's words. And I own a 230 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 4: tiger and I have a face tattoo. That is one 231 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 4: interesting dude. And if you don't believe him, he'll gnaw 232 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 4: your ear off. Okay, we got more on the ways there. 233 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 4: Why is Green Day singing American idiot? 234 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. Why would you agree with that? 235 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 4: Why would the why would NBC agree to that? I 236 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 4: understand why green Day would agree with that? And I 237 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 4: gotta believe that Billy Joel Armstrong is that his real hair? 238 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 4: Is he still have hair that looks like that? Almost 239 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:21,719 Speaker 4: is unbelievable. 240 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 2: But did yet, Katie? 241 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 7: As much as I can't stand him, Yes, he does 242 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,719 Speaker 7: have great haird always has. 243 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 2: So it's a combination of of I guess the networks 244 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 2: are woke to and or nobody pays attention to the lyrics. 245 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it's both of those. Yeah, 246 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 2: it was a staunchly anti George Bush I'm ashamed of 247 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 2: my country anthem from the Iraq War era. Not familiar, right, 248 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 2: you know? And then bad Bunny all in Spanish. I mean, how. 249 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 4: Portraying us all his idiots And they only did a 250 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 4: couple of songs. Green Day's got a lot of hits, 251 00:12:55,280 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 4: so I surprised anyway. So uh Madic is a super 252 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 4: good writer. 253 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 2: He wrote a piece recently about how Gavin Newsom is 254 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 2: so like Kamala Harris, and I'll skip over a big 255 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 2: chunk of it. He says, what disturbs me about Newsom's 256 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 2: front runner status for the would be nomination for the 257 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight Democratic ticket. Is that I get the 258 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 2: sense that most Democrats do not see this as a 259 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 2: case of identifying the single most similar politician in Kamala 260 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 2: Harris in the entire country and trying to run it 261 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 2: back again. And he points out that the idea that 262 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 2: because Harris is a black woman newsome who kind of 263 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 2: looks like someone who might get cast as president on 264 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 2: a television show, looks different as a huge swing in 265 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 2: the opposite direction when same unpopular stances on cultural issues, 266 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 2: you know, California politics and blah blah blah, which is 267 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,599 Speaker 2: absolutely true. But then he puts it better than I 268 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 2: ever have. This is the point I've been trying to 269 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 2: make for a long time. You've heard me make it. 270 00:13:58,040 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 2: To get to the super Bowl, you need to win 271 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 2: several playoff games against the NFL teams with the best 272 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 2: records to get to the playoffs. You need to win 273 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 2: a lot of regular season games to become an NFL player. 274 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 2: You need to beat the opposing football teams in college. 275 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 2: This is a pretty normal tournament type structure and one 276 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 2: that we see We see pretty frequently in a variety 277 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 2: of context. Because the playoffs are single. Well, that's kind 278 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 2: of an aside, But in a broad sense, the super 279 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 2: Bowl is a football game, and you make it to 280 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 2: the super Bowl by demonstrating skill at winning football games. 281 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 2: I think we can all agree on that. You can 282 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 2: imagine a world where politics is like that, where a 283 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 2: Democratic Party presidential nominee is normally someone with a lot 284 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 2: of demonstrated skill at beating Republicans and elections, and the 285 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 2: Republican Party nominee is normally someone with a lot of 286 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 2: demonstrated skills at beating Democrats in elections. I mean, it's 287 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 2: so in your way ahead of me, I know, but 288 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: it's so self evident that that's true. It's kind of 289 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 2: useful to say it out loud. But Matt writes for 290 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 2: that to be the case, though, you'd need to live 291 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,239 Speaker 2: in a world where the typical election was highly competitive, 292 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 2: and that's not the world we live in. Vast majority 293 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 2: of House members and state legislators old seats that aren't 294 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 2: remotely competitive in a d versus our sense on purpose. Yeah, 295 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 2: Senate races and governor's mansions aren't as skewed, but there 296 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 2: are still tons and tons of safe seats out there 297 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 2: as a result, A politician can be achieved an extremely 298 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 2: prominent role in American politics, like governor the largest state 299 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 2: in the country, without ever winning a hard race against 300 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 2: the Republican. This is true, Yeah, And he points out 301 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 2: it's not easy to gain statewide office in California. It's 302 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 2: actually incredibly different, difficult. But it's all Democrats in a 303 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 2: crowded field to elbowing each other for the prime jobs, 304 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 2: which generally is pledging the most fealty to the unions 305 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 2: and the most loyal fealty to the trial attorneys. And 306 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 2: just one or two other conceptions obviously true. And I'm 307 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 2: sure in red states it's true. Some red states it's true. 308 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 2: The other direction that. 309 00:15:55,560 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 4: If I were going to run for office in California 310 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 4: without thinking about it a lot, and I'm a Democrat, 311 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 4: I'd think, well, I need you know, what's the argument 312 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 4: against the Republicans. That's not how you end up in office. 313 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 4: It's what's your what's your argument against other Democrats? What's 314 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 4: your going to be your lane among Democrats? 315 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 2: Right right, which is a very different skill session, particularly 316 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 2: in a mobbed up state. Yeah, Yeah, which is why 317 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 2: I think he's doomed. He just he he has not 318 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 2: played in a game, yet a game against the sort 319 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 2: of opposition he's going to face in the Super Bowl 320 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 2: of Politics. Do you know how much Breezy Johnson won 321 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 2: the gold medal by She won the women's downhill on 322 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 2: what was it called the death ribbon or the ribbon 323 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 2: of death or whatever it's called. That's the dude's course. Yeah, 324 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 2: the women is the ribbon of pink in their hair. 325 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 2: I didn't know they had a different course for the 326 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 2: men and the women. They do. Why there's no biological 327 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 2: difference between women and women? Why won't she use the 328 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 2: same course? That's funny. 329 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 4: She won the gold medal by four one hundredths of 330 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 4: a second against the German. 331 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 5: Armstrong and Getty New England trying to find something about 332 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:11,959 Speaker 5: two thirds the way through what is one of the 333 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 5: worst performances ever by an offense in a Super Bowl. 334 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 5: Can they change it to step up and shoot? 335 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 2: Went down? 336 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 5: Bail it's intersecond Byland buys grow in the middle of 337 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 5: Jillian Love has it and they bring a pressure at 338 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 5: as well and me ass came on the pressure. I 339 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 5: don't him on the suit he is going to four touchdown? 340 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't know why you 341 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,479 Speaker 4: call it one of the worst offensive performances, which it was, 342 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 4: but it was tremendous defensive performance. 343 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah. By the way, the meaningless escapades in 344 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 2: the fourth quarter made me a lot of money. Holy cow, 345 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 2: had you actually bet money on the game? And I 346 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 2: had a couple of squares in one of those blind 347 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 2: pools and I won the first quarter and the final 348 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 2: score that was fairly lucrative. 349 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 4: The first three quarters. That was some dull, dull football there. 350 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 2: Oh, I know people who are serious football fans who 351 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 2: weren't even glancing at the TV. No, they're like chatting 352 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 2: out of view of it. Nine to nothing halfway through 353 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 2: the second quarter or whatever it was. Fiel Golds scintillating. Absolutely. 354 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 2: And the other point, very briefly of this Gavin and 355 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 2: kamlaw piece that Matt Iglesias makes is that the Democrats 356 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 2: way overestimate the power of demographics. We've got a black woman, 357 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 2: we need him, a white man lost with hill or 358 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 2: is she's a woman, so clearly we need the rest 359 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 2: of us are not obsessed with intersectionality like you are. 360 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 4: No, no, you could have a honest to god, it 361 00:18:55,720 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 4: could be a Hispanic transman whatever you want to come 362 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 4: up with. If you believe in the Founding principles and 363 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 4: you're a conservative and you're for personal freedom and restraining 364 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 4: our spending, I don't care. 365 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 2: I don't freaking care at all. You look like a 366 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 2: girl with a mustache. But I like your views, so 367 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 2: not gonna worry about it. 368 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,479 Speaker 4: So I took a fair amount of information over the weekend, 369 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 4: Over the last week about the demise of the Washington Post. 370 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 4: I think it's pretty interesting, which I'll get to Peggy 371 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 4: Noonan's column in the Wall Street Journal about it in 372 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 4: just a second. But hello, Ma Newnan, almost entirely, not 373 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 4: just like democrats, but like the woke left pulling their 374 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 4: hair out over how awful this is. The fact that 375 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 4: nobody else is pulling their hair out over it should 376 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 4: be everything you need to know. You're the only people 377 00:19:55,720 --> 00:20:00,120 Speaker 4: that care that the Washington Post is going away, woke lefties. 378 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 4: The rest of us are a combination of I don't 379 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 4: read it anyway, which is most people I know, or 380 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 4: I do read it and it was so biased I 381 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 4: hated it so good, I'm glad it's going away. So 382 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 4: it's either I didn't read it anyway, or I'm glad 383 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 4: it's going away. That's a big, big chunk of the country. 384 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 4: And then have you seen anybody really other than the 385 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 4: woke crowd that is bothered by the demise of its 386 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 4: current form, So. 387 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 2: That takes everything well, she doesn't like its. 388 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 4: Current form though, right right, she wants to go back 389 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 4: to what it was before. 390 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 2: But I think that says everything you need to know. 391 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 4: Like I love it when people post current or former 392 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 4: Washington Post headlines and say surprising they're going out of business, 393 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 4: you know, just crazyes, like they had one from yesterday 394 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 4: about the you know, the queer agenda of figure skating 395 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 4: at this year's Olympics, Like, Okay, there you go, who's 396 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 4: that for? 397 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 2: It ain't for most of America. I'll tell you that 398 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 2: who reads that and says, wow, that's wonderful. 399 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 4: And I used to make this joke every Mother's Day. 400 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 4: I wish I had some of the headlines still in 401 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 4: front of me. Every Mother's Day you go to the 402 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 4: Washington Post and it's NonStop articles that don't fit in 403 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 4: with the majority of people's view of Mother's Day, which 404 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 4: is mom, dad, kids, And they don't it great that 405 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 4: we all have a mom. It's somehow you know, it's 406 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 4: articles about she decided not to have kids and she's 407 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 4: never looked back, or you know too, trans women and 408 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 4: what it's like to be a mom or whatever, all 409 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 4: crap like that, and no, just mainstream and you're surprised 410 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 4: that your readership had fallen off for a long time. 411 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,959 Speaker 4: That being said, Peggy Noonan just some highlights from her 412 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 4: piece in the Wall Street Journal because she's bothered by this. 413 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,959 Speaker 4: I fear sometimes that few people really care about journalism, 414 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:49,719 Speaker 4: but we are dead without it. 415 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 2: You could stop there. She is absolutely right. 416 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 4: I think very few people do care about real journalism 417 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 4: and we are dead without it. That both of those 418 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 4: things are a thousand percent trum. 419 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and the conclusion is inescapable. Right. 420 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 4: So someday something bad will happen, something terrible on a 421 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 4: national scale, and the thing will need most literally to survive, 422 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 4: is information, reliable information, a way to get it and 423 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 4: then to get it to the public. That is what 424 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 4: journalism is, getting the information. That's a pretty good description 425 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 4: of journalism getting the information. But the Post's diminishment, which 426 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 4: looks like its demise, isn't just a media story. Reactions 427 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 4: shouldn't break down along ideological lines in which the left 428 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 4: fields journalism is the precinct of and is sad, and 429 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 4: the right feels journalism is its hulking enemy, and isn't sad? 430 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 4: Treat it that way and will fail to see the 431 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 4: story for its true significance. The capital of the most 432 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 4: powerful nation on Earth appears to be without a vital, 433 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 4: fully functioning newspaper to cover it. 434 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 2: That isn't an occasion of jokes. It's a disaster. 435 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 4: It's a disaster that the Washington Post of thirty years 436 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 4: doesn't exist. It's not a disaster that the Washington Post 437 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 4: of last week doesn't exist. If anything, that might be 438 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 4: a step in the right direction. But if your overall point, 439 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 4: it won't be replaced by anything that resembles the old. No, 440 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 4: there should be right, it won't be. So, you know, 441 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 4: she's elderly, Beggy Newton's very old. She's significantly older than 442 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 4: Joe and I, and she's longing for a day that 443 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 4: is gone and is not going to return. 444 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 2: I wish it wasn't the case, but I sure to 445 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 2: think it is. So. I know you're not super interested 446 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 2: in the history of the Washington Post, but I found 447 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 2: this really, really interesting. Catherine Boyle, who is a former 448 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 2: Washington Post high up staffer, left the paper twelve years ago, 449 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 2: and she points out what nobody's talking about was the 450 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 2: motto when she left before they changed it to Democracy 451 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 2: Dies in Darkness was four and about Washington. They changed 452 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,719 Speaker 2: it to communicate the diminished ambitions of once grand paper. 453 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 2: The edict that went out and this is what's you 454 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 2: said a dozen years ago was anything that didn't directly 455 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 2: impact the Bethesda or Fairfax reader. The Washington metro area 456 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 2: had already been cut. They really cut back and said, 457 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 2: it's going to be a local city newspaper, free from 458 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 2: the cost of international bureaus and expensive teams. We're going 459 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 2: to localize everything. We're going to give up the ambition 460 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 2: of being a global paper. We're going to be the 461 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 2: Washington Metropolitan daily newspaper. And that didn't work. It was 462 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 2: right when daily city newspapers weren't were in decline, and 463 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 2: then when they decided, no, we do need to go 464 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 2: back to being global. That coincided with the woke thing. 465 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 2: So they were doing the right thing but in the 466 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 2: wrong way. And so it was those two bad moves 467 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 2: that really doomed the brand. I thought that was interesting. 468 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 2: Thanks for honorary producer Jeff sending that to me. 469 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 4: The I don't I don't know if it would have 470 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 4: made any difference. I'm not sure it would make a 471 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 4: heck of a lot of difference if these news organizations 472 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 4: like the ABC Evening News or the Washington Post, some 473 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 4: of your traditional media had done a better job of 474 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 4: being less, you know, partisan, because I think the younger 475 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 4: crowd was moving away from that anyway. It just didn't 476 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 4: mean anything to them. I don't know. It's hard to 477 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 4: say because we'll never know. Because they did, they got way, way, 478 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 4: way partisan. But you know, the younger crowd does not 479 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 4: care that me and my dad came home from work 480 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 4: and watched the CBS Evening News every night and flipped 481 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 4: to either the New York Times, Washington Post or local 482 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 4: newspapers who printed a lot of articles from those newspapers. 483 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 2: They just don't care. 484 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 4: They get their news from somewhere else, send their hand 485 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 4: on their phone, and it's more entertaining, and it moves 486 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 4: a lot faster, and it doesn't care a lot whether 487 00:25:58,480 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 4: it gets it right or not. 488 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 2: And it's very ideological too. I just I don't know. 489 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 4: It might have been dead no matter what. This just 490 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 4: hurried it along well, and people don't appreciate this. I 491 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 4: don't think or maybe you'll do. I don't know, but 492 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 4: now medical schools are woke and crappy right now. But 493 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 4: I think we'll take care of that eventually. But everybody 494 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 4: understands the process of becoming a doctor more or less. 495 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,479 Speaker 4: You know, you excelled in high school and college, probably 496 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 4: studying a science. You go to medical school, you bust 497 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 4: your ass in school for years and years, you're you 498 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 4: do your your interness or I'm sorry, what's that? What's 499 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 4: the term when you're like a half of the student doctor, 500 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 4: you're making the rounds with the full on doctors and 501 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 4: blah blah blah. 502 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 2: What's the term? I'm looking for? It flitted out of 503 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 2: my old head. 504 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 4: Doesn't matter, Like an apprentice residency, residency that's it. 505 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, your residency. So anyway, that's how you become a doctor. 506 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 2: It used to be like nearly journalists would be blue 507 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 2: collar people who reported on the most local and smallest stuff. 508 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 2: They demonstrated their skill at that and got promoted to 509 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 2: the city council meeting. Over years, these you know, hard working, 510 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 2: working class people would rise to the top, and you 511 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 2: would get the national column, you would become known, you'd 512 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 2: become an editor and editor in chief. But quite notably, 513 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 2: you would work your way up through the city politics, 514 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 2: the police beat, you know, your state politics or whatever. 515 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 2: So you would be a very down to earth and 516 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 2: be very realistic about the way the world works. And 517 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,239 Speaker 2: that was the ladder of journalism. Now you come out 518 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 2: of Columbia at age twenty two with these ridiculous fantasy 519 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 2: Marxist beliefs about the world, and you get hired by 520 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 2: whatever media outlet, and you've got a column that circulates 521 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 2: around the country, and if you're snarky and tow the 522 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 2: company line, maybe you get known. But it's a completely 523 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 2: different profession. It's as if doctor were twenty two year 524 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 2: old social majors, the children of the rich, who just 525 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 2: figured I'm as smart as anyone, so I'm going to 526 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 2: operate on people without a shred of life experience. 527 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 4: Well that's all true, but then how about you combine 528 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 4: that with I fear sometimes that few people really care 529 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 4: about journalism. I don't know which came first. I think 530 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 4: you could have great non partisan journalism in a lot 531 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 4: of these places, and it still wouldn't work as a 532 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 4: business model. 533 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 2: I just don't know if it was. That's an interesting question. 534 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 2: I don't have an answer to that. It's an interesting thought. 535 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 4: It might work now, but it ain't gonna work much longer, 536 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 4: I think. And it would take a serious crisis, like 537 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 4: the kind of crisis none of us want to live through, 538 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 4: to get everybody focused on issues and seeking out real information. 539 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 4: I think didn't happen in COVID. And then it didn't 540 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 4: happen in COVID. 541 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 2: How seriously a need and but the other direction during COVID, Right, right? 542 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 2: Do you still have that piece opened by Peggy I 543 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 2: loved at the end of it where she quotes Thomas Jefferson. Oh, 544 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 2: I actually don't have that part. Oh you don't, Okay. 545 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 2: It was essentially Jefferson said, given the choice between no 546 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 2: government but media or no media, but actually he said 547 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 2: it to the other but he said he would much 548 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 2: rather have a world with no government but or free media, 549 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 2: because at least you'd know what's going on, you'd have 550 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: a hope. If you have a government but no media, 551 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 2: you're doomed. But we're doomed to we've recognized it. 552 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 4: But what percentage of people are perfectly willing to choose 553 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 4: a media that they know is biased and not giving 554 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,479 Speaker 4: them all the information. I think that's a lot of 555 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 4: people correct, maybe most people correct. Yeah, well, then you 556 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 4: absolutely are doomed. And as a business model, this is 557 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 4: no point in even trying to start a newspaper. We're 558 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 4: going to be fair to both sides and hit down 559 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 4: the middle. There's just not really a crowd for that. 560 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 2: Boy read either the new book about Tucker Carlson or 561 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 2: a good, thorough review of that book. That's precisely what 562 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 2: he ran into. He wanted the Daily Caller. That was 563 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 2: his outfit, right. He wanted it to be traditional, serious, smart, 564 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 2: objective journalism. And then they dabbled in really red meaty 565 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 2: click baity stories, and those just crushed the responsible stuff. 566 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 2: And he said, Okay, I get it, dang it, dang 567 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 2: it is right, screamed, screamed, And now we're all speaking Spanish. 568 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 2: Nobody though, bad Way Bad Bunnies are new King. All right, 569 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 2: we will finish strong. 570 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 4: Next, that's your favorite bad Bunnies song? 571 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 2: I already got by. I don't know who that is. 572 00:30:55,240 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 2: I've never heard of bad Bunnies. Yeah, oh no, no, 573 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 2: bad bunnies. Do you think they made a mistake. I 574 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 2: believe so. I ain't never heard of brod to No, 575 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 2: I don't have one. I don't listen. I don't know 576 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 2: any song. 577 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 4: I'm already listened about Buddy. 578 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 2: I don't that's a saddle. 579 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 4: Seahawks players ask their favorite bad Bunny song, and they, 580 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 4: at least all the people interviewed there said I don't 581 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 4: have one, or I don't know who that is. And 582 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 4: I don't deny that he's the top streamed artist in 583 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 4: the world. I'm not pretending that that's not true. It's 584 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 4: just I don't personally know anybody. And my son's super 585 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 4: into hip hop and all his friends and that kind 586 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 4: of music and everything like that, none of them are 587 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 4: in no, so I don't know who it is. 588 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 2: Somebody is. It's people in some Spanish speaking people in 589 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 2: the United States, but Mexico and Venezuela and Colombian, Peru 590 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 2: and Ecuador and South America and Spain presumably the according 591 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 2: to some the wellspring of the Spanish language. So it's 592 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 2: the rest of the world, which is what Roger Goodell 593 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 2: is hot for. Apparently we have these rabbit and his 594 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 2: crotch like bad bunny who grabbed it his Yesterday, we 595 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 2: have breaking Epstein news. Oh good lord, So Donkey made 596 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 2: that noise when Epstein touched him. 597 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 4: Yes, Gallaine Maxwell is testifying today in front of Congress. 598 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 4: Her attorney just said that she can clear President Trump's 599 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 4: name in exchange for clemency. She can completely clear Trump's 600 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 4: name if she's let loose and free. 601 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 2: Which completely removes any credibility to her clearing Trump's name. Please, 602 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 2: I'll deny the existence of gravity for a million dollars. There, 603 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 2: gravity doesn't exist. That's settled. Why did she get moved 604 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 2: to the cushy prison? That's pro call? Well, what was 605 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 2: the quit or the quo? That's the in return for 606 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 2: the initial interview, you saying to the Justice Department officials, No, 607 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 2: Trump didn't do anything wrong. They moved her to a 608 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:09,479 Speaker 2: cushy prison. No boy, all right. 609 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 4: I just somebody just sent me a clip of the 610 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 4: nineteen ninety three Super Bowl halftime Michael Jackson, which it 611 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 4: was all about love and bringing emone together and blah 612 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 4: blah blah. See that, man, I get that small sea, 613 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 4: Butte was. 614 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 2: A hero, a real role model. 615 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 4: I'm missing he was half a pedophile or maybe a 616 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:32,719 Speaker 4: full pedophile, so I don't know. 617 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 2: Allegedly, I'm strong. I'm strong, You're ready and strong. A right, 618 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 2: here's Joe's for final thoughts, Joe Getty, let's get a 619 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 2: final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap up 620 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 2: the day. There he is pressing the buttons in the 621 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 2: extrol room. Michael Angelo lead us off, would you? Yeah, 622 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 2: it's been a difficult time today, been sitting here in 623 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 2: the control room trying to eat this small bag of 624 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 2: potato chips. But I keep crying every time I open 625 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 2: it up and think of. 626 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 4: The farmers, right and getting the relationship between a father 627 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 4: and a daughter. 628 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 2: Such a moving potato chip at Katie Green are esteemed 629 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 2: to Newswoman As a final thought, Katie. 630 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 7: I just want to thank Michael Angelo for the highlight 631 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 7: of my Super Bowl, which was that dep pretty good, 632 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,240 Speaker 7: the damp, pretty dang, good bye the dip. 633 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 4: Although when you've eaten a pound of it like I did, 634 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 4: oh no, you're gonna have to eat a lot of 635 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 4: prunes to balance that out. 636 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 8: Jack a final thought for us, Yeah, you don't get 637 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 8: to do that. You don't get to play on my 638 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 8: emotions as a father and all these different sorts of 639 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 8: things and then try to show me junk food. 640 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 2: That's not cool. Stop doing that. My final thought is 641 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:55,879 Speaker 2: three words, three words, dogs catching frisbees. That's the next 642 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 2: halftime show. Enough with the crap. You know, if you 643 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 2: maybe the best college marching bands now in the country, 644 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 2: you don't remember the super Bowl halftime shows of the eighties. 645 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 4: Old friend of the Armstrong and Getty Show, Sandra Furlong 646 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 4: Kozomar texted me bring back up with people. She actually 647 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 4: danced in up with people in the super. 648 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 2: Bowl back in the day. 649 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 4: A bunch of yoow, fresh faced people smiling and dancing 650 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 4: to pop music with people. 651 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 2: I guess I'm in favor of it. 652 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 4: Armstrong and Gey wrapping up another grueling four hour workday. 653 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 2: So many people, thanks, so little time. Go to Armstrong 654 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 2: in geeddy dot com for the hotlingks Katie's corner, drop 655 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 2: us a note mail bag of Armstrong in geddy dot com. 656 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 2: What do you think all this stuff? 657 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 4: Benson just told me in my ear he saw up 658 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 4: with people twice live. 659 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 2: How did that happen? Well, I will see you tomorrow. 660 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 2: God bless America. I'm strong and getcha. 661 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 4: If you're gonna tell this tale about your homeland. I 662 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 4: didn't learn any single thing. I can only come to 663 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 4: one conclusion. The messages. Learn Spanish, bitches. That's the way 664 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 4: I took it. You don't like it, learn Spanish, geez, 665 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 4: say one way like Jill Biden Has 666 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 2: And Catty Show, Get the Podcast, Armstrong and Getty on 667 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 2: the Man.