WEBVTT - #680 Packers Unscripted: Washington woes

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everyone, Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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<v Speaker 1>Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always

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<v Speaker 1>by my partner in crime, West Hodkowitz. Were coming to

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<v Speaker 1>you here from our studios at lambeau Field and unfortunately

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<v Speaker 1>West to talk about another loss, this one one at

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<v Speaker 1>Washington against the Commanders. And uh, this one started out

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<v Speaker 1>in good shape for green Bay, a touchdown, a pick six,

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<v Speaker 1>a fourteen to three lead, but then twenty straight points

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<v Speaker 1>by the Commanders over a stretch of about two and

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<v Speaker 1>a half quarters that nothing really went right on either

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<v Speaker 1>side of the ball for the Packers, and then a

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<v Speaker 1>late comeback just came up short. Yeah. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 1>they want to start playing these games for thirty minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what everybody was asking after London, and uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not how it's played. However, No, it isn't. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's the stretches of like scoring that are that have

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<v Speaker 1>been the most concerning. I think when you look at

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<v Speaker 1>what the Giants did to rally back from ten point

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<v Speaker 1>deficit at halftime this game, the Packers are up to

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen to three again and by and large, Mike, the

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<v Speaker 1>main things that you and I hit on last week,

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<v Speaker 1>we're kind of ringing true. I mean, the Packers were

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<v Speaker 1>controlling the line of scrimmage defensively, uh, Taylor. Heineke started

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<v Speaker 1>off with more passes batted down than he had actual completions,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just seemed like from the moment that he

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<v Speaker 1>started to be able to scramble a little bit and

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<v Speaker 1>start making some plays with his feet and moving the chains.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's been the biggest um common thread through

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<v Speaker 1>all this is Green Bay starts off really strong with

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<v Speaker 1>their third down defense over three, over four, did it

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<v Speaker 1>against the Giants too, and then they struggle whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>third and short or third and long to find an answer.

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<v Speaker 1>And it just seemed like once Heineke started being able

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<v Speaker 1>to extend plays a little bit, Terry McLaurin made some

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<v Speaker 1>adjustments to be able to himself up from Gerry Alexander's

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<v Speaker 1>coverage and the attention the Packers were giving him, it

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<v Speaker 1>all kind of started to boil down from there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was one of those things the way I looked

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<v Speaker 1>at it, and I didn't necessarily realize that as much

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<v Speaker 1>watching the game, but then going back and watching rewatching

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<v Speaker 1>the film on Monday, Heineck making his first start of

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<v Speaker 1>the year, and quite frankly, he wasn't very good in

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<v Speaker 1>the first half, but the Packers simply didn't take advantage

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<v Speaker 1>of the plays that were there. Campbell did have the

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<v Speaker 1>pick six. Unfortunately, the Packers had the fumble return for

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<v Speaker 1>a touchdown called back on a penalty, which was a

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<v Speaker 1>Heineke fumble when he got hit on a scramble by

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<v Speaker 1>Rashawn Gary. But aside from those two plays, the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>had you could argue four other pretty legitimate chances for

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<v Speaker 1>interceptions in that first half, um when Heineke was simply

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<v Speaker 1>not really throwing the ball all that well. But the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers didn't make those grabs. In the second half, Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>in particular Terry mclauren did. And then when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the way the comeback unfolded, the Packers get or

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<v Speaker 1>down ten, you get a touchdown, it's one. You need

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<v Speaker 1>to get a stop. Washington is still in its own territory.

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<v Speaker 1>Third and nine, there's plenty of time on the clock

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<v Speaker 1>and Heineke, under pressure kind of throws up a prayer

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<v Speaker 1>quite frankly, towards the sideline, but throwing it towards his

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<v Speaker 1>best receiver, and Terry McLaren And you know you talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the third down conversions, This was probably the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>one of the game. Third nine. McLaurin happened to see

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<v Speaker 1>the ball before Alexander did, was able to go and

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<v Speaker 1>attack it by the sideline and got it um and

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<v Speaker 1>converted the third nine with a twelve yard pickup and

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<v Speaker 1>uh and that was essentially the ball game. Packers defense

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't get off the field on third down in the

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<v Speaker 1>second half, and a lot of that, as we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about here in a minute, also had to do with

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that they were just on the field too

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<v Speaker 1>much throughout the game, even in the first half when

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers were winning. I thought the third and nine

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<v Speaker 1>play was actually a really good embodiment of really that

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<v Speaker 1>entire game for Green Bay's defense, because I saw that

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<v Speaker 1>stat about how Green Bay had like twenty nine pressures

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<v Speaker 1>from Pro Football Focus but only one sack, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>short of being actually physically shot out of a cannon,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what Kenny Clark could have done to

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<v Speaker 1>get to the quarterback any faster than he did. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Clark was all over Heineke on that on that third nine,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, Heineke got rid of the ball. Give

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<v Speaker 1>him credit in nine times out of ten. Those are

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<v Speaker 1>the type of plays. I'm not saying this would have

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<v Speaker 1>turned into a pick six or anything, but when a

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback is under that much duress and a defender of

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<v Speaker 1>Calark's caliber is in his face like that, those are

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<v Speaker 1>typically the plays that you end up seeing the guy

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<v Speaker 1>throw a terrible ball that ends up being an interception.

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<v Speaker 1>And McLaurin just made the plays that needed to be

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<v Speaker 1>made in this game. I just felt like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for the Packers, it goes back to that first half defensively.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about the offense here in a second, but

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<v Speaker 1>when you get your hands on passes. My headline for

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<v Speaker 1>Saritay's inboxes, they just have to capitalize, and I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's easier said than done. But you know, Rasul Douglas

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<v Speaker 1>has three passes defense in this game. Jr. Alexander came

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly close to a pick on the first target that

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<v Speaker 1>McClaren got. Um. Yeah, that was that was flat out

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<v Speaker 1>of bad throw over the middle behind his receiver. Wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>even catchable for me. It wasn't it wasn't catchable for McLaurin.

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<v Speaker 1>Was very catchable for Alexander and he just couldn't quite

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<v Speaker 1>come up with it. You have to make those plays.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I mean, I want to not get too

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<v Speaker 1>much in the officiating because it can be a slippery

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<v Speaker 1>slope there for everybody involved. And there's really nothing you

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<v Speaker 1>can gain out of getting upset about anything. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if they do finally force to turn over, Rasul Douglass

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<v Speaker 1>picks up the ball, appears to run it back for

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<v Speaker 1>the touchdown, and then there's the illegal contact penalty over

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<v Speaker 1>on Washington sideline. It is what it is. The Packers

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<v Speaker 1>have to play above those things. You can't have thirty

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<v Speaker 1>eight rushing yards, two hundred sixty six rushing yards. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't be over six and third downs when the opposition

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<v Speaker 1>has converted more third downs than you've even attempted, and

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<v Speaker 1>that this is the end result. Yeah, And we've we've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about how in the during this three game losing

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<v Speaker 1>streak now that's dropped the Packers to three and four,

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<v Speaker 1>how the defense has started out pretty well in all

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<v Speaker 1>the games but then has faded as the game has

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<v Speaker 1>gone on this one in particular, when you look when

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<v Speaker 1>you look back at it, the Packers defense was just

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<v Speaker 1>on the field too much in the first half, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's what contributed to wearing down in the

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<v Speaker 1>second half. Now, there was a back to back possessions,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously because of the pick six by Devandre Campbell. So

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<v Speaker 1>you take that right, that's a touchdown. Your defense put

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<v Speaker 1>seven points on the board, but they have to be

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<v Speaker 1>out there for back to back possessions. But before that,

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<v Speaker 1>there's another back to back possessions because Amari Rodgers muff

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<v Speaker 1>to punt. The defense gets to stop, but then the

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<v Speaker 1>punk gets muffed, so Washington's offense is right back on

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<v Speaker 1>the field and the defense gets the stop in the

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<v Speaker 1>red zone forces the field goal, which is a big

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<v Speaker 1>win after a turnover like that. But yet again, those

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<v Speaker 1>are the those are the snaps, the plays that that

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<v Speaker 1>add up to a defense not being necessarily at full

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<v Speaker 1>strength or having enough in the tank down the stretch

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<v Speaker 1>to stop a third nine. When if you get that

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<v Speaker 1>stop and get the ball back to Aaron Rodgers, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you escape Washington with a winning field goal three. But

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<v Speaker 1>my point is that everything from the early stages of

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<v Speaker 1>the game, even when the Packers are winning, it's adding

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<v Speaker 1>up to the problems that they're seeing later on when

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<v Speaker 1>they can't figure out how to come away with a victor,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, you lose Rashan Gary at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of that game to the concussion, and you know, Gary

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<v Speaker 1>and Preston Smith I make, I think, make up such

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<v Speaker 1>a good combination because Gary is more of the hair

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<v Speaker 1>on fire get after the quarterback guy where pressing is

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<v Speaker 1>the traditional out three or four outside linebacker in this

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<v Speaker 1>defense where he's going to give you some whish, she's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna give me some pressure. But he's also incredibly assignment

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<v Speaker 1>sure against the run. And when you lose Gary like

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<v Speaker 1>that in a situation, in those two minute situations where

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't you want to have a guy that is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be able to get after the quarterback when

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<v Speaker 1>you know Washington, you know, especially if they get shut

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<v Speaker 1>down in first down, isn't necessarily gonna be looking to

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<v Speaker 1>run the ball a lot um and you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>him available. And I mean, you give Taylor Heineke a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of a lot of credit, Mike last week, you

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<v Speaker 1>and I said it over and over and over again.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this young man may not end up being

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<v Speaker 1>a starting quarterback for a team that you know week

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<v Speaker 1>one that's gonna be our guy. But this is what

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<v Speaker 1>you do to be a productive back up in this

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<v Speaker 1>league is that when Carson Wentz breaks his finger and

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be out for a month, you get called upon.

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<v Speaker 1>And he won his eighth game for Ron Rivera in

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<v Speaker 1>Washington and for Green Bay. I think it goes back

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<v Speaker 1>to the takeaways. It goes back to too many turnovers

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<v Speaker 1>and not enough takeaways, and in this game in particular,

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<v Speaker 1>not to lay it all at Marie's feet, but when

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<v Speaker 1>they had that fumble, and give credit to the defense

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<v Speaker 1>Dom Caper's the old adversity defense phrase, it stepped up.

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<v Speaker 1>They held him to a field goal there. But realistically,

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<v Speaker 1>that was the only real charge that Washington mounted in

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<v Speaker 1>the first half, and it came off a turnover. And

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<v Speaker 1>when you have turnovers and you don't get enough takeaways,

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<v Speaker 1>that the hill gets taller and taller in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>what you're trying to climb. Yeah, the Packers just they

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<v Speaker 1>weren't able to take advantage of Heineke's poor throws in

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<v Speaker 1>the first half. And then Heineke kind of settled in

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<v Speaker 1>and started to make the throws he needed to make

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<v Speaker 1>in the second half, which is why Washington converted so

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<v Speaker 1>many third downs in in the second half, he got

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<v Speaker 1>going when the Packers could have made his life absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>miserable by being able to snag some of those really

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<v Speaker 1>poor throws early on. Yeah. Absolutely, And you saw why

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<v Speaker 1>Curtis Samuel too is gonna end up having a ten

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<v Speaker 1>year career in this league. I mean, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how many thousand yards seasons he's gonna have, but those

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<v Speaker 1>gadget type players, it almost kind of reminds me in

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<v Speaker 1>a way what Ted Gin became later in his career

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of the guy that is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a acountable. They're gonna use them in different ways, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to be able to help them move the

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<v Speaker 1>chains and stay in third and favor rolls. Washington had

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<v Speaker 1>an excellent game plan for how they attacked Green Bay.

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<v Speaker 1>It took while to get into it, but once they

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<v Speaker 1>did get into their rhythm in the second half, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a winnable formula for them to not only be

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<v Speaker 1>able to extend the lead, get the twenty unanswered, but

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<v Speaker 1>then also it's four minute defense wise, being able to

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<v Speaker 1>really step up. Yeah. The other the other thing too,

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<v Speaker 1>that I wanted to say with regard to and this

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<v Speaker 1>just speaks to This speaks to the offensive struggles Um

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<v Speaker 1>with regard to with regard to the Packers defense being

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<v Speaker 1>on the field so much in the first half after

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<v Speaker 1>after the back to back where Um Campbell gets the

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<v Speaker 1>pick six, the defense has to go right back out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Washington does march down and get a touchdown. A couple

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<v Speaker 1>of missed interception opportunities on that drive, but Washington gets

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<v Speaker 1>the touchdown. So the defense has been on the field

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<v Speaker 1>a heck of a lot over the over that stretch

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<v Speaker 1>of the game. But then the Packers get the ball

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<v Speaker 1>back on off fense, they lose six yards on a

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<v Speaker 1>first down running play, they get called for holding on

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<v Speaker 1>a second down running play when they're just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get back on track and give themselves a chance on

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<v Speaker 1>third down. So then you're in third and forever and

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<v Speaker 1>it ends up being ends up being a three and

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<v Speaker 1>out and the defense has to go right back out

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<v Speaker 1>there again. I mean it was. It was practically a

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<v Speaker 1>back to back to back in the sense of in

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<v Speaker 1>the sense of how much the defense had to had

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<v Speaker 1>to play, and the Packers are just the Packers are

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<v Speaker 1>in a rut offensively. Um there were once again much

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<v Speaker 1>like the Jets game, there were penalties that put them

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<v Speaker 1>in long yardage situations that were negative negative yardage plays.

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<v Speaker 1>Not the sacks this time, because the game plan was

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<v Speaker 1>get the ball out of Aaron Rodgers hands quickly, which

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<v Speaker 1>for the most part was accomplished. But too many dropped passes,

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<v Speaker 1>some passes that were off target, um and uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>just breakdowns fundamentally on offense, illegal formations, guys not lining

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<v Speaker 1>up properly, you know, breakdowns in the in the fundamental

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<v Speaker 1>all aspect that just that just made it impossible to

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<v Speaker 1>get any kind of a flow or rhythm going on

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<v Speaker 1>offense at all. And it wasn't until you know, Rogers

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<v Speaker 1>makes the great, really the great off schedule play, the

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<v Speaker 1>late touchdown to Aaron Jones on on an extended play

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a scramble drill that that the offense showed

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<v Speaker 1>any kinds of life from the second quarter on. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and Rodgers making just an incredible throw on that play

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<v Speaker 1>with Aaron Jones being able to take his route from

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<v Speaker 1>the flat up the sideline on a wheel option. They've

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<v Speaker 1>done that time and time again. It's becoming one of

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<v Speaker 1>the the real go twos and must have situations for

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay. But to get to that point again, it

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<v Speaker 1>goes back to the consistency piece, and um, you go

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<v Speaker 1>over six. I think that was the first time they

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<v Speaker 1>did not convert a third down since if I remember

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<v Speaker 1>that right. Yeah, the only third down conversions for the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers were due to some penalties by Washington and getting

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<v Speaker 1>behind the sticks early I think was the main culprit

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<v Speaker 1>for that. Certainly there were some third and mandable that

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay didn't convert on, but there were too many

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<v Speaker 1>times where it was thirty third and nine plus that

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying to convert. And it's just not a winnable formula,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when you're playing two high safeties, especially when you're

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<v Speaker 1>rushing for Washington wasn't taking a lot of chances. They

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<v Speaker 1>were going to keep the ball in front of them

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<v Speaker 1>and trust their defensive backs and their guys at the

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<v Speaker 1>second level to tackle for green Bay. It's such a

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<v Speaker 1>difficult thing because I know so many people, especially from

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<v Speaker 1>a national level, we're trying to dog on the fact

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers I think, and only had what was a

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<v Speaker 1>twelve carries. Yeah, that was that. That was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a statistical thing based on the way the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we can kind of just so fans understand. Where we're

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in the press box at FedEx Field, we're actually

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<v Speaker 1>sort of near where the official statisticians are, and so

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<v Speaker 1>as every play is happening, we're sort of hearing them

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<v Speaker 1>kind of talking and barking to each other as they're

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<v Speaker 1>punching things into their computers. And and you know these

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<v Speaker 1>sideways pitches to Aaron Jone, which which are running plays

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<v Speaker 1>in every sense of the word, the way the packers

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<v Speaker 1>are blocking the flow of the play and everything. And

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<v Speaker 1>they were saying that those pitches were forwards, so they

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<v Speaker 1>were calling those forward passes. There were at least three

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<v Speaker 1>or four of those. So the run pass ratio, if

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<v Speaker 1>you just look at the final statistics, it was it

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<v Speaker 1>was out of whack and I think quite frankly inaccurate. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's just the way that particular statistical couldn't decided

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<v Speaker 1>to chart the game. We're gonna sorry for the side no,

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<v Speaker 1>but on Wednesday, depending on when you're we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get the NFL's updated statistics too. So the NFL take

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<v Speaker 1>a look at and see if there's any modifications there

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<v Speaker 1>be that as it may, as Matt Lafleur said, it

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<v Speaker 1>as podium and his press conference on Monday. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily a problem they didn't run the ball enough, or

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't get the ball there and Jones enough. It

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<v Speaker 1>was just they didn't run enough plays. There wasn't enough

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<v Speaker 1>synergy tote was I mean, what was of offensive? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a that's a discrepancy that's really really hard to

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<v Speaker 1>overcomet seven oh seven to fifty three. If you talked

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<v Speaker 1>about those time of possession since for the last three years,

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<v Speaker 1>you are and you have to bet your savings on it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're taking the Packers as being the ones with thirty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just the way they've offensively played under Matt Lafleur.

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<v Speaker 1>This was not Matt Lafleur football. And for the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>it's a difficult position they're in because al Lazard now

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<v Speaker 1>has a shoulder injury. We saw him in the locker

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<v Speaker 1>room with the with the sling on his arm. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna see exactly what this week holds for him. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>he is the guy in this offense and you hate

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<v Speaker 1>to see that happen with him. I give him a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of credit. He came out of the game, he

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<v Speaker 1>tried to go back in the game had to come

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<v Speaker 1>out again. They don't have Randall Cobb right now. Christian Watson,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you would hope it's gonna be back here.

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<v Speaker 1>He has never placed on injured reserve, so he makes

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<v Speaker 1>that makes you think they felt he was on the

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<v Speaker 1>early side of the four week um. You know limited

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<v Speaker 1>would have ben if you would have went on the

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<v Speaker 1>injured list. Green Bay needs playmakers to step up. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not just about getting the ball to Aaron Jones and

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<v Speaker 1>a J. Dillon, although that is two of their big

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<v Speaker 1>primary playmakers. It's about guys taking care of their opportunities

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<v Speaker 1>on the perimeter. Once again, too many drop passes. Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Jones even put that on himself. There was a screen

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<v Speaker 1>pass that he had that he wasn't able to bring in.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a third and long. But still it's those

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<v Speaker 1>plays where guys know they can catch the ball. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's it isn't like they're trying to catch a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>fifty fastball from Aaron Rodgers. It's being out in the

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<v Speaker 1>space and trying to look up field and not securing

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<v Speaker 1>that ball. It comes back to fundamentals. People don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear about it. It gets tiring. I know, but

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<v Speaker 1>as you wrote an inbox on Monday, then I reiterated

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<v Speaker 1>on Tuesday, it's a game of basic execution. The Packers

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<v Speaker 1>are not getting enough of that right now. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned the injuries. The Packers are dealing with a wide

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<v Speaker 1>receiver Lazard. Lazard goes out his status right now certainly

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<v Speaker 1>very much in doubt. Randall Cobb is currently on injury reserve.

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<v Speaker 1>The Packers got Sammy Watkins back, but Christian Watson is

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<v Speaker 1>not back yet from uh from his hamstring injury. So

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things in flux with regard to what

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<v Speaker 1>exactly the wide receiver corps will be for this week's

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<v Speaker 1>upcoming road trip to Buffalo. And then the Packers are

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<v Speaker 1>also trying to figure some things out on the offensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>They spent the week with a with a reconfigured line

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<v Speaker 1>that had Josh and i'man taking over at right tackle.

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<v Speaker 1>Elton Jenkins was moved from right tackle to his more

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<v Speaker 1>traditional position of left guard, where he was a pro

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<v Speaker 1>bowler a couple of years ago. John Runyon was flipped

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<v Speaker 1>from left guard over to right guard. Josh Myers obviously

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<v Speaker 1>stayed at center, but then at the eleventh hour, David

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<v Speaker 1>Baktiers knee was not feeling up to par, and a

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<v Speaker 1>pregame workout um at the stadium a couple hours before

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<v Speaker 1>the game wasn't good enough for bok tr to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to go. So rookie fourth round pick from Wake Forest,

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Tom ended up starting at left tackle, getting his

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<v Speaker 1>his first NFL start on the road. Difficult situation, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Packers went with it that way because rather

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<v Speaker 1>than you know, flip Josh and Iiman back to left

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<v Speaker 1>tackle and and ad just because that was the way

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<v Speaker 1>they had practiced all week as far as those first

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<v Speaker 1>three guys that I had mentioned, So they plugged in

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<v Speaker 1>Zack Tom at left tackle. Now, certainly the performance of

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive line was better than it was against the Jets.

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<v Speaker 1>The game plan in terms of a lot of quick throws,

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<v Speaker 1>three step drop, get rid of the ball, not a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of not a lot of uh um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>seven step drop and and extended route concepts and all

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<v Speaker 1>of that. Not a whole lot of that in the

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<v Speaker 1>game plan. So that helped from a past protection standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>and there certainly was some some production in the ground game.

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<v Speaker 1>But yet there you know, they're still this is this

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<v Speaker 1>is a group and whether or not box Tr is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be back next week or if they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to ride with Tom for a while. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the group that the Packers are gonna go with. Here,

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<v Speaker 1>this this alignment, health permitting and uh and try to

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<v Speaker 1>make it work. It wasn't. It wasn't at its best,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think in the first outing. But there were

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<v Speaker 1>some encouraging signs and we'll see if this group can

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<v Speaker 1>sort of come together and develop the cohesion that you

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<v Speaker 1>hope for. Yeah, and and that was the big idea

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<v Speaker 1>with all this is that you're getting you know, John

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<v Speaker 1>Running who's worked for the basically a bulk of the

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<v Speaker 1>past year with yosh Naim, and you move both of

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<v Speaker 1>them over the right side. You allow Elton to go

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<v Speaker 1>back to the position he was a pro bowler at

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<v Speaker 1>josh Meyer's in the middle as your stationary, and then

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<v Speaker 1>bok Tr is at left tackle. The one interesting thing

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<v Speaker 1>about all this is bok Tr even before there was

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<v Speaker 1>the he was added with the game designation on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>He was always on the injury report with the name,

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<v Speaker 1>but the he got added with the game designation, it's questionable.

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<v Speaker 1>He was still limited during practice so Zach Tom was

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<v Speaker 1>the one spelling him. So the idea being is that

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<v Speaker 1>not only is it about letting elk or I should

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<v Speaker 1>say Yosh get comfortable at the right tackle spot, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that if you did push Josh over to

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<v Speaker 1>left tackle, well now you don't have anyone that's really

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<v Speaker 1>taken reps at right tackle this week. So that's the

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<v Speaker 1>perplection that they were kind of presented. With that being said,

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<v Speaker 1>I like the adjustments they made. They used a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more, you know, they shaded you know, Mercedes Lewis

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<v Speaker 1>over to that side with Tom, which he appreciated being

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<v Speaker 1>able to work with Jenkins. He felt comfortable in that role.

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<v Speaker 1>And Mike I've said it time and time again. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean everybody the more recent media, which is cool. Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>has their own proclivities. But they talked a lot about

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<v Speaker 1>him and Elton. You know all that Tom moves around

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<v Speaker 1>like Elton. My big thing for the bulk of the

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<v Speaker 1>last few months has been he reminds me a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more of J. C. Treader and that he's a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that was, you know, a left tackle at in college.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, maybe not the biggest guy at that spot.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you project him to be inside, whether it be

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<v Speaker 1>a center spot or a guard spot. But he can

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<v Speaker 1>hold his own out there. And I thought, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Tom showed incredible footwork during training camp. I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>a really smart kid and and he survived just fine.

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<v Speaker 1>The big question for the Packers is, as Matt Lafleur

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<v Speaker 1>reiterated on Monday, this line is better when David bak

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<v Speaker 1>tr is better. The run offense is better when David

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<v Speaker 1>Bakti is out there. That's where we have to monitor

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<v Speaker 1>this thing because it isn't just about David Bakti being

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<v Speaker 1>on the field. It's about David Botr, the five time

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<v Speaker 1>All Pro, the guy we're talking about being a potential

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<v Speaker 1>Pro Football Hall of Famer. That's the guy you need back.

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<v Speaker 1>And whether it's they're gonna have to do some adjustments

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<v Speaker 1>with his practice, scheduling practice all last week, whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Um if the Packers are going to get this thing

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<v Speaker 1>turned around, offensively is a big part of that. So

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna allow the rest that line to settle in.

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<v Speaker 1>If Dave isn't able to go, I would imagine you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna see more Zack Tom at left tackle. They want

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<v Speaker 1>to give Yash that opportunity at right tackle. Now that's

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<v Speaker 1>how that's how I see it unfolded. And now if

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<v Speaker 1>now the real question becomes if Botr is back, but

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta do the rotation, then what do you do.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll figure that out on a different day. But ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>this was the path forward for Green Bay. And as

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<v Speaker 1>first impressions go, considering all of the adjustments they made

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<v Speaker 1>without the benefit of a bye week or any huge,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, time off, and then a major change at

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<v Speaker 1>the eleventh hour, I felt like it went pretty well

0:22:03.240 --> 0:22:06.320
<v Speaker 1>for them. And yeah, it went it. Uh, it certainly

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<v Speaker 1>was um, it certainly was an improvement over where the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line was against the Jets, and I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's at least some comfort level with the changes

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<v Speaker 1>that have been made. But as you said, they would

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<v Speaker 1>love to get David Batieri back at left tackle as

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<v Speaker 1>as that anchor, because because the offense just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it functions better with a player like that on the field.

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<v Speaker 1>of better. All right, I want to throw out a

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<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of stuff at you with regard to what

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<v Speaker 1>happened in Week seven in the NFL, and I'll let

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<v Speaker 1>you comment on what you what you think is worth

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<v Speaker 1>comment and see what I take care. The New York

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<v Speaker 1>Giants are six and one after yet another fourth quarter comeback.

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<v Speaker 1>The Dallas Cowboys are five and two, and that defense

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<v Speaker 1>looks every bit as real as it was potentially as

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<v Speaker 1>it was projected to be. In the a f c

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<v Speaker 1>Um Joe Burrow and the Bengals might have found something

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<v Speaker 1>and hit their stride. Meanwhile, there's a quarterback change going

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<v Speaker 1>on in Indianapolis, Um. And then back in the NFC,

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<v Speaker 1>the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, San Francisco forty Niners, and now

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago Bears are all three and four, just like the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers are. That's sort of my laundry list of Week

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<v Speaker 1>seven in the NFL, So go ahead. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>another reminder again that you can't just take a look

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<v Speaker 1>at what the schedule is. You can't look at, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>how's the strength of schedule gonna line up? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>because so much changes. And you look at a team

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<v Speaker 1>like Carolina that they start a fire sale there on

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<v Speaker 1>what their third string quarterback. I doubt anybody gave them

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<v Speaker 1>a chance. And in a lot of ways, I think

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<v Speaker 1>people viewed that game for the Buccaneers a lot like

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<v Speaker 1>they viewed this game for the Packers against the Commanders.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an interim interim head coach in Carolina, interim head coach, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and they handed it to him. Uh, you know it's

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<v Speaker 1>this is gonna be one of those years, Mike, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're learning something about Daniel Jones and the Giants. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we've learned something about that defense too with

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<v Speaker 1>New York. I mean, when you when you are the

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<v Speaker 1>when you are the best team, when you are the

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<v Speaker 1>best team in the fourth quarter every single week, you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna win a lot of games. What the Giants are doing,

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<v Speaker 1>quite frankly, and this is this kind of just occurred

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<v Speaker 1>to me. What the Giants are doing, quite frankly, reminds

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<v Speaker 1>me a lot of the Packers under Matt Lafleur. In

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<v Speaker 1>nineteens first year as head coach, they were not a

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<v Speaker 1>dominant team. They had a lot of attractive pieces, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of things that looked really interesting. They were in

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<v Speaker 1>every game, just about every game. There were a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of hiccups, but they were in just about every game,

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<v Speaker 1>and every game they were in they were more likely

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<v Speaker 1>than not the better team in the fourth quarter making

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<v Speaker 1>the plays late in the game. And that's how that's

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<v Speaker 1>how a not impressive statistically, you know, team like the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers in nineteen ended up with thirteen victories. The New

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<v Speaker 1>York Giants are looking very much, in my opinion, like

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of team. Very different personnel, very different style

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<v Speaker 1>of play, but in terms of those parameters, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like to me. And there's so much good

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<v Speaker 1>coaching going on, not just in New York but throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the league. I mean, you look at what Brian Dabbles

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<v Speaker 1>has put together for Daniel Jones. I mean, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>reason why the Giants have been so devoted to him

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<v Speaker 1>the last three years is because they felt like talent

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<v Speaker 1>was there. He maybe is going to have to do

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<v Speaker 1>it in kind of a gamer, you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>man's mindset. But whether it's the the ability to scrambles,

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<v Speaker 1>just making plays and clutch moments. I mean, he's proven

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<v Speaker 1>to have the mental toughness for it. I mean Geno

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<v Speaker 1>Smith is doing very similar stuff in Seattle right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But Seattle Seahawks are four and three. Who would have

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<v Speaker 1>Who would have thought? Nobody the supposed rebuild that Pete

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<v Speaker 1>Carroll and that crew was was going through. Everybody was

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<v Speaker 1>signing them up for you know, one A, one B

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<v Speaker 1>with the Texans as far as the first pick for

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<v Speaker 1>next year, and it just shows you all these different

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<v Speaker 1>directions things can go for Green Bay. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>another reminder. You look at Chicago UM and what teams

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<v Speaker 1>in the National Football League was saying about the Bears

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<v Speaker 1>after those first few weeks, and you know, I I

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<v Speaker 1>commend Luke Getsy and the offensive coaching staff and with

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears to be able to it seemed like develop

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more friendly game plan for their young

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback in that game and allowed him to do use

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<v Speaker 1>his feet a little bit more. It can all turn

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<v Speaker 1>around in one week, is the moral of the story here.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you kind of create your own narrative

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<v Speaker 1>in these mount moments, and that's why this week for

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers. You and I are going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>it on Thursday. It's gonna be a challenging week. We

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<v Speaker 1>already know what the point spread looks like. It's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be an underdog type mentality. But if you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to drop one to the Commanders, I mean, you could

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<v Speaker 1>say what you want about the Giants at six and one,

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<v Speaker 1>you can say what you want about the Jets. So

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<v Speaker 1>now they lose Breeese Hall. Now, yeah, Jets are Jets

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<v Speaker 1>are five and two, but yeah they lost. They lost

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<v Speaker 1>their biggest playmaker on offense. Both of those teams I

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<v Speaker 1>think are a lot better than everybody, myself included gave

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<v Speaker 1>them credit for me to Washington was a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more that one where you get that feeling that it's

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<v Speaker 1>like you lose two close games, you lose a game

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<v Speaker 1>at LAMB, but you do not expect to lose to

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets. You kind of have that quote unquote letdown,

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody was guarding against that when last week, but

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<v Speaker 1>it happened. Well, if you want to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>get yourself back in this thing, if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>put yourself back in that quote unquote play off hunt,

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<v Speaker 1>when people start talking about that stuff. It has to

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<v Speaker 1>start against the New York excuse me, A Buffalo Bills

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<v Speaker 1>team that not a lot of people are giving you

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<v Speaker 1>a chance against. Yeah, and a Buffalo Bills team that

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<v Speaker 1>will be coming off of by they have just one

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<v Speaker 1>loss on the season, a team that that has been

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<v Speaker 1>thinking nothing but super Bowl since uh since you know,

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<v Speaker 1>really um disappointing playoff endings for them the last couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years, especially last year the way they let the

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<v Speaker 1>game at the at Arrowhead against the Chiefs get away

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<v Speaker 1>so um. As Aaron Rodgers said after the game, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe this is the best thing for the Packers because

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<v Speaker 1>all they're going to hear, whether they want to listen

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<v Speaker 1>to it or not, all they're going to hear is

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<v Speaker 1>how they have no chance going into Buffalo in primetime

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday night football. Everybody that has watched the success

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<v Speaker 1>of this team over the last however many years, you

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<v Speaker 1>want to say, the organization has been successful. People, what

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<v Speaker 1>people want to put a nail in the coffin on

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<v Speaker 1>the season for the Green Bay Packers if if they

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<v Speaker 1>get their fifth loss in in Buffalo on Sunday night

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, and it's up to the it's up to

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers to see how they respond to this situation.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. The crazy thing about this will preview the

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<v Speaker 1>game on Thursday. We'll get to it then. But what

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<v Speaker 1>an incredibly lazy narrative that's going to be. We haven't

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<v Speaker 1>even heard it yet, but you can see it coming

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<v Speaker 1>down the Yeah, that's that's that's why I said it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you know that that's with this game being

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<v Speaker 1>in prime time, you know, Sunday night football, all the

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<v Speaker 1>all the talk all week is going to be is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be that that this is, you know, is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be some sort of this is the end

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, this Packers era and the passing of

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<v Speaker 1>the torch and all this kind of stuff, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like it's like, hey, you know, regardless of what

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<v Speaker 1>happens in Buffalo on Sunday night, there's still gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>nine more games left in the regular season. And the

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<v Speaker 1>other thing that's kind of weird about this is if, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>if the Packers were five and two, Green may matches

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<v Speaker 1>up really well with Buffalo, Like if you think about it, like, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bills are incredibly explosive, they have an incredible quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>they have weapons on the perimeter. They don't run the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's been one of the things that have hurt

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers at this point. Now, maybe they'll switch their

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<v Speaker 1>colors and Devin single Terry, I'll get a bunch of carries,

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<v Speaker 1>but they don't this This Bill's team is a lot

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<v Speaker 1>like the Packers in two thousand eleven and how they

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<v Speaker 1>operate offensively. So it's funny that people aren't giving them

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<v Speaker 1>a chance because Green Bay, despite their record, with their

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<v Speaker 1>past defense and in some of the options they actually

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<v Speaker 1>do match up with them, all right, But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because of where they are and losing three straight, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the reason everybody is going to be doubting them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's the three straight, there's the injuries, there's there's just

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<v Speaker 1>and and it's not just losing three straight, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's playing a level of football that's just that the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers are not accustomed to. And uh and and they've

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<v Speaker 1>got they've got to get things straightened out and turned

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<v Speaker 1>around and and we'll see if they can do it.

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<v Speaker 1>But we will talk more about the Buffalo Bills on

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<v Speaker 1>our next show. For now, we'll call it a wrap

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<v Speaker 1>on this edition of Packers Own Script, And be sure

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<v Speaker 1>to follow all of our coverage of the team West,

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<v Speaker 1>tuning in, everybody, See you next time.