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Speaker 1: a roundtable of Cowboys insiders, dropping wisdom and offering sizzling

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Speaker 1: your host Newe Scrugs mediumsh Here on a Thursday, Nick

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Speaker 1: eaton Dallas Cowboys dot Com. He's John macholda of the

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Speaker 1: go play daddy so he couldn't couldn't make it today,

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Speaker 1: which I understand. I understand that stuff happens. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta one at home, the six Sons.

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Speaker 1: This is what happens, uh, Packers Cowboys three twenty five

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Speaker 1: Lambou Field in Wisconsin. And today is November tenth. It's birthday.

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Speaker 1: It is yeah, yours my friend Shannon Gross. Oh, Mike McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: McCarthy sorry, he's got kind of beat writer, Nick Eat

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Speaker 1: Would you would you rather if you're an NFL head coach,

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Speaker 1: during the season. I think I'd rather have it during

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Speaker 1: the off season. Offeason doesn't seem like he would really

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Speaker 1: be able to enjoy it. I mean, I guess, okay,

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Speaker 1: obviously this week, if he goes up to Green Bay

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Speaker 1: and wins, that's a great birthday present, and he would

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Speaker 1: enjoy that birthday. He did say today when I asked

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Speaker 1: him about it, though, he said that, you know, the

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Speaker 1: family's already headed up to Green Bay, and so he's

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Speaker 1: gonna have the house to himself and he's looking forward

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Speaker 1: to that little little quiet time. So it's just funny.

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Speaker 1: You make it sound like if his birthday was in

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Speaker 1: the summer, like he would like rent out Chucky Cheese

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Speaker 1: or something like. No, no, no no, no, no. You know

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Speaker 1: what I think it is. I think I overrate what

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Speaker 1: not even gonna get a chance to like even hang

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Speaker 1: here all the time, you know. You know. Jimmy Johnson's

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Speaker 1: the book I haven't read, you have, a part of

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Speaker 1: it is talking about how he looks back on life

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Speaker 1: and regrets. I shouldn't say regret, because I don't know

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Speaker 1: he regrets it, but he feels like he should have

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Speaker 1: spent more family time he did, you know. I talked

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Speaker 1: to Jimmy and okay, he mentioned that. But because you're

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Speaker 1: like if you're even enjoying any free time during during

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Speaker 1: And it's not probably not a healthy way to live.

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Speaker 1: But Nick, you wrote the book, and you were inside

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Speaker 1: with Baylish program and with Coach Briles, and so you

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Speaker 1: get to see, Man, it's it's especially when you've got

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to win, it gets intense about who you

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Speaker 1: let in and what kind of the the time you have.

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Speaker 1: You live, I mean, truly, you live in a bubble.

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Speaker 1: I remember one of my buddies who actually told me

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Speaker 1: He he literally asked me world questions and questions about

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Speaker 1: I'm not taking a shot at you because you know

425
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Speaker 1: I like this guy. But oh, I'm gon's not act

426
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Speaker 1: like Michael Jordan and I was. I'm serious, like I was,

427
00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,560
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there ready to go there as well. Okay,

428
00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,840
Speaker 1: because this is as a Charlotte Hornet's fan. Yeah, this

429
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Speaker 1: has been my biggest frustration. If you would have told

430
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Speaker 1: me nineteen ninety eight, well, yeah, nineteen ninety eight, I

431
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Speaker 1: feel like that was the pinnacle of all. I would

432
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Speaker 1: have never believed you. If you said that Michael Jordan

433
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Speaker 1: was going to go in the NBA and he was

434
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Speaker 1: going to be this bad in terms of just not

435
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Speaker 1: even winning, but just finding players, I never would have

436
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Speaker 1: believed you. I would have been like, No, he's gonna

437
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,600
Speaker 1: be the best GM, he's gonna get the best players,

438
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Speaker 1: he's gonna have the most success, he's gonna win at

439
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 1: least one championship, you know, running a team, and it

440
00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,640
Speaker 1: has been so bad. I just think that he stopped. Yeah,

441
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Speaker 1: I'm just there's just a lot of things I've seen

442
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Speaker 1: over the last five to ten years that makes me

443
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Speaker 1: really be one of these people where I'm like, I'm

444
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Speaker 1: all for you asking the players what you know, Hey,

445
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Speaker 1: how do you like about Like if you're a quarterback,

446
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 1: how do you like this receiver? Whatever? In the draft,

447
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna let the Will mcclays of the world pick

448
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Speaker 1: the guys, though, you know, like I'm gonna let the

449
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Speaker 1: guys that know what they're looking at. I'm gonna let

450
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Speaker 1: them get them. Going to the player, referring to Dac

451
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Speaker 1: picking Jalen Tolbert, I wasn't, but that Troy been liking

452
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Speaker 1: David Lafleur. Yeah, what was the other option there? No,

453
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Speaker 1: it don't say that it was. I was gonna say

454
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Speaker 1: it wasn't. But it's the same too. It's always gotta

455
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Speaker 1: picked like twelve then like twentieth. If you let least

456
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Speaker 1: tell the story whole, Lee Steinberg, let Lee tell the story.

457
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Speaker 1: Lee tells a different story of you know that they

458
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Speaker 1: could have gotten something done, and you know Tony wanted

459
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Speaker 1: it and Troy wanted it, but then you know they

460
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Speaker 1: wouldn't pull the trigger. Um, but this you know this

461
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Speaker 1: isle Lee's version of things. Yeah, but it's very interesting.

462
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Speaker 1: But what what what could have been had they even

463
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Speaker 1: used whatever they needed to pay to go get who's

464
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 1: the best former player talent evaluator that you can think of?

465
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Speaker 1: We'll stay with the nfl AZZI knewsom is it go?

466
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Speaker 1: And that's one of the first people I thought, too

467
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Speaker 1: talent or I thought you no, no, no, just a

468
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Speaker 1: talent evaluator. Yeah, I was gonna try and think there

469
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Speaker 1: is there's anybody that makes us first? Is that right?

470
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Speaker 1: Are you saying? Just because of that? I think I

471
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 1: can't think of anybody else that. I remember when I

472
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Speaker 1: worked in Cleveland and Antonio Langham was there and Ozzie,

473
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Speaker 1: you know, because I was an Alabama fan and just

474
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Speaker 1: knew kne about Ozzie playing and toil He's like, oh yeah.

475
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Speaker 1: He basically said how he talked to Lombardi in Beltic

476
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Speaker 1: and he did, like I did the work on I'm like,

477
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Speaker 1: take this guy. Ozzie was just very good, especially with

478
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Speaker 1: his first round picks, finding players who were proven in

479
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Speaker 1: college who could end up you know, fitting. Yeah, And

480
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Speaker 1: that was that was the success of Ozzie and just

481
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Speaker 1: kind of go through is he found first rounders who

482
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Speaker 1: made contributions. And I think it was Rick Goslin who

483
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,400
Speaker 1: once told me, says, knew, your first and second round

484
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 1: guys have to be starters, Darnel walkin starters, And for

485
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,880
Speaker 1: the most part in his career that's what he did. Yeah.

486
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Speaker 1: I mean his last first round pick, you know, turned

487
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Speaker 1: out to be okay. Yeah, any guys forgetting Matt Millen, No, No,

488
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Speaker 1: I'm most certainly not forgetting Mett. Now, okay, we're gonna

489
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Speaker 1: bring up Matt Millen and Matt Patrician in the same podcast.

490
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Speaker 1: Do this to me. Thanks, A lot of guys appreciate

491
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Speaker 1: what we mentioned. Bill ka or twice already too. Well,

492
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: he he doesn't have any Detroit connections there, No, he

493
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 1: didn't run the organization in the ground. See. It's also

494
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 1: coaching too, though, Like it's not just GM. It's coaching,

495
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: like name like the greatest player, who was a great player,

496
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Speaker 1: great coach because you look at the former players now,

497
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Speaker 1: I me, you know, like the coaches like Tomlin and

498
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Speaker 1: all that, they weren't They weren't great players. I mean,

499
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Speaker 1: there's not that many that are head coaches that were

500
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Speaker 1: a great player. I think it's too hard. I mean,

501
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Speaker 1: Mike Ditka, I think was a great player, right, that's

502
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Speaker 1: about I mean, look how far I went back like Gundy. Sorry,

503
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Speaker 1: I'm just sorry. Caro won a Super Bowl in Detroit,

504
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 1: just letting you all know that. Well, yeah it was

505
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Speaker 1: in Detroit. That's that's true. It's correct him and image

506
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Speaker 1: your own battle. Sorry, just overall, I just think overall

507
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Speaker 1: it is it is very hard to be a Hall

508
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Speaker 1: of Fame player and coach and single tarre this is

509
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Speaker 1: this is just me, This is just me. They're so

510
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Speaker 1: great that they can't really understand. The dudes who aren't

511
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 1: watching Magic. Johnson just not understand. Even as a coaching

512
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: executive him not Guess what. Some of these dudes just

513
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 1: don't have this thing you have. Don't take the game over,

514
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: you know, or they like you as a player. You

515
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: don't see this. Great players like Magic. You see that

516
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Speaker 1: with the floor, Like, dude, you gotta you have to

517
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Speaker 1: talk to the people who only see this. Yeah, and

518
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Speaker 1: then how do you get like Bruce Bowsy, for instance,

519
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Speaker 1: with the range he's a backup catcher. Yeah, No, guys

520
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: are backup catchers. They sit on the bench, they're in

521
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,360
Speaker 1: the meetings with the pitchers, they were on the pitching coaches.

522
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Speaker 1: You learn so much quarterbacks like Jason Garrett, and I

523
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Speaker 1: don't ye great coach or whatever. It was good coach,

524
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Speaker 1: it's good coach, but I mean, um, it's pretty good analysis.

525
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Speaker 1: I mean analyst. Dude, Jason is a I knew he

526
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Speaker 1: would be good because Jason tells a great story. Great

527
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Speaker 1: and nothing against Jason. I didn't see it as much.

528
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Speaker 1: I didn't see him. I didn't see him going to

529
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Speaker 1: be really good there, and and he's he's kind of

530
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Speaker 1: good in his own way. He's good in an eightman

531
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Speaker 1: type of way. Not gonna sit there and tell a

532
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: lot of jokes, but but just pretty good analysis. And

533
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: when he does tell a joke, it's like, Wow, that happened.

534
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 1: So I looked up learn yeah from Jason when you

535
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: when you're watching him. So I looked up former players

536
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Speaker 1: that ended up being coaches, and these are some of

537
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Speaker 1: the first names that that came up in terms of

538
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,199
Speaker 1: Mike did go. I think that you nailed that one

539
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 1: right there for sure. Phil Jackson, Yeah he was good.

540
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Speaker 1: He was a good player. Um, backup but but a

541
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Speaker 1: guy who was yeah, yeah, not not a star Jim

542
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 1: Harboss obviously wasn't a star player. Um, that's not a

543
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: bad one. Pat Riley, backup player. UM, Lenny Wilkins, he

544
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 1: was a good player. Bill Russell's the ultimate though. Oh

545
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 1: there you go. Bill Russell's an ultimate guy. I mean

546
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Speaker 1: the guy. The guy was a championship as a player. Coach. Yeah,

547
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: but when he was a coach, was he really good?

548
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Speaker 1: Wouldn't he? I didn't think they were good was he

549
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 1: a good coach, like like, uh what the Celtics? He

550
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 1: was good but was okay. But but you know as

551
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 1: he went to the Kings and as a general manager,

552
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: uh he had some pitfalls there. But but Larry Bird

553
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: had the pacers going pretty well. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah,

554
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: and then he couldn't do it. You're right, Isaiah Thomas

555
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: wasn't really that. You're right. Here's where Larry excelled at.

556
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 1: We're going way into the Larry. We're not going off

557
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: the highway. We're going into the like he had Dick Harder,

558
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: he had Rick Carlisle. But but but it matters. But

559
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Speaker 1: as to me, Azzi knew is a Hall of Fame

560
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,439
Speaker 1: general manager as much as he was a Hall of

561
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: Fame player. But I do think there's it's hard, um,

562
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Speaker 1: you know what. Okay, I got a guy. I got

563
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Speaker 1: a guy play the NFL. Okay, a guy who was

564
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,199
Speaker 1: a really good player turned out to be a Hall

565
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: of Fame coach Tom Larder. Okay, it's with the Giants, Okay,

566
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: play me about his best game. You know, Nick I was,

567
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: I was a star in the scott Yeah, and I

568
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,479
Speaker 1: don't really have the film of that but they're at

569
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: the polo grounds. Yeah, thirty five degrees out. Yeah, but

570
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 1: but played in this league. Yeah, I'm good defensive back.

571
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: Was never a face mask call ever, because there wasn't

572
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: a face mask. Yeah. You know who wasn't a good

573
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: player but played league was on Shula h ended up

574
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: being a wolt. Wouldn't Bill Parcels a draft pick of

575
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: the of the Lions? Not sure. I'm not sure if

576
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 1: he did. I know he coached or was involved. Now

577
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 1: he played, and he was drafted by the Lions, And

578
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 1: I don't think he played in mine. I think he

579
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: just went to had a cup of coffee. Maybe he

580
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: played a little bit for for the Browns. Yeah, I

581
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: don't know. There's something about with like Mike McCarthy, a

582
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: guy that you know, obviously played in college. He didn't

583
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: play in the pros. But I don't know. I just

584
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: have really I really noticed with Mike McCarthy that he

585
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: doesn't try and act like he's one of the players.

586
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 1: You know, he there's definitely a line there that he's

587
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: not going to cross that. Hey, this is a player thing. Players,

588
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 1: you know, get it done. I don't know what we're

589
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: gonna say, No, you're exactly right, Like that was the

590
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 1: biggest difference in twenty twenty and I wouldn't. A lot

591
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: of us have got to travel, and I was very

592
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: fortunate that I did, and not only did the travel,

593
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: but everything was pretty close. Like you couldn't go and

594
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: hang out and go in and and we ate with

595
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: the team, which is awkward when they were so bad

596
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: and you're taking them to lose and you know, and yeah,

597
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 1: it wasn't fun. But um, I noticed that too, Like

598
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: Garrett was all down. Oh yeah, Garrett would take the stars,

599
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: let's go to Duke and let's watch games. You know.

600
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: He doesn't do that. Now he has a guy that

601
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: does that. Yeah. Yeah, his assistant coach does that, Rob Davis. Yeah,

602
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: he's he's in there and so he kind of gets

603
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: the tune of what's going on, but in a different way.

604
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, he does want to keep it, keep it

605
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: separate a little bit. He stays off the skyline. Yeah,

606
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: that's what he does. I'll give him that. As a coach.

607
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: He stays out. Some coaches are not like that, but

608
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,479
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy stays off the skyline and does a good

609
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: job of making good about I wonder if he was

610
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: like Dan green Bay too, or if this was something

611
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: that was kind of it's he's moved more towards this way.

612
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: And I think what you're saying about stays off the skyline,

613
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: but still consider it a player's coach, like, oh, no question.

614
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: He will make sure they're off their feet, they're they're

615
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: not getting over work. What's their you know number, GPS

616
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: number or whatever. It gave him all of last week off. Yeah,

617
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: I mean he's so he's which is a great testament

618
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: to him saying, hey, I work, I overworked. Yeah, worked

619
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: worked young teams when I was a young coach. So

620
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: he's he's learned a lot. And I tell you between

621
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: what he talks about what he's learned and you got

622
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn who talks about what he's learned. Here, Um,

623
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are getting in the benefit of their experience,

624
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,239
Speaker 1: which maybe why you don't want to hire a guy

625
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: like Jeff Saturday. But let's take a break. Coming back

626
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Speaker 1: here with Nick Eatman of Dascowboys dot Com Job a

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Speaker 1: Now it's time for the team that performs on any field.

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666
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Speaker 1: when the Cowboys leave from uh DFW Airport to fly

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670
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Speaker 1: all Saturday, I'm flying. I'm leaving too. So it's my

671
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Speaker 1: first road game of the year. Yeah. Nice. So I'm

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Speaker 1: I wanted to go back to see this one, especially

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Speaker 1: when I saw it on the schedule. McCarthy going back

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Speaker 1: and then now to see, um, what could happen here

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Speaker 1: for him is pretty cool. I picked Green Bay and

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678
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679
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Speaker 1: three years in a row, there was gonna be a

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Speaker 1: fall off. And then you lose a guy like DeVante

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682
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Speaker 1: supposed to be your guy. I didn't see it happening

683
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Speaker 1: for the Packers this year. They've lost five straight football

684
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Speaker 1: games and they are in there and they're not good.

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Speaker 1: And then Chris beams at me. There was Rashul Douglas

686
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Speaker 1: who said we suck, because we suck. That's what he

687
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Speaker 1: said to the media. Okay, folks, that's fair. Good though,

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Speaker 1: that's right right with that kind of mentality to come

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Speaker 1: on out and just hey, look you know who you are. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: you know who you are. But when you come out

691
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Speaker 1: and that's your quote, yeah, man, we suck because we suck.

692
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Speaker 1: Um certainly not that this obviously this is there. So

693
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: he definitely said that. Um, it's not like they don't

694
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Speaker 1: want to get out to a hot start all the

695
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Speaker 1: time because everything. Obviously you would prefer to do that,

696
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Speaker 1: but this certainly seems like one of those games you'd

697
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Speaker 1: really like to maybe throw a couple of big blows

698
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Speaker 1: early and just take them out of it because you

699
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Speaker 1: don't you know, maybe who's like Rasul Douglas. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: what you're right, you want you wanted to be fourteen

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Speaker 1: to nothing. Yeah, alas, and then the guy looked at

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Speaker 1: each other and goes It's like Rasul was right, Yeah,

703
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Speaker 1: damn we do suck. I thought maybe nope, which leads

704
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: me into the player. We haven't spoken a whole lot

705
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: about Dak Prescott. Um look good last game out. Now,

706
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: with a week off to the thumb, I'm expecting Dak

707
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Speaker 1: to get this thing going again, to take what happened

708
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Speaker 1: with the Bears and keep this thing rolling here. Now

709
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: it gets Green Bay. And you know, Dak as a competitor.

710
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Speaker 1: Jimmy John's talks about the five characteristics he wants the guys.

711
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Speaker 1: He's like one of the things that he want a

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Speaker 1: guy who can compete. And he talked about Michael Parks

713
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Speaker 1: like there's a guy that wants to compete. Dak Prescott's

714
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Speaker 1: the same way. Um, I think he's probably tight. I'm

715
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Speaker 1: tired of losing Aaron Rodgers if it's if not now win,

716
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Speaker 1: if not now win, So I'm expecting Dak Prescott to

717
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Speaker 1: have a good game here. I missed just Prescott ofference today.

718
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Speaker 1: He spoke after after my two o'clock podcast, So what

719
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Speaker 1: do you have to say? He was, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I mean he was. He gave the shortest answer of

721
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Speaker 1: anybody about um Odell. He obviously was asked about that,

722
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Speaker 1: and not not right away, but he was. He was

723
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Speaker 1: definitely not not going to play that game and give

724
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Speaker 1: it and give headlines. It wasn't bad, it was respectful,

725
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Speaker 1: it just wasn't much. You know. I think that was

726
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Speaker 1: because Zeke, Well, well, no, I was gonna say, because

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Speaker 1: the thing that you brought up on the podcast on

728
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Speaker 1: Tuesday that you got from the Players Lounge about the

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Speaker 1: players saying, I don't know if I'd really love like

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731
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Speaker 1: got my quarterback out here talking about how man we

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Speaker 1: would love to have Odell in here. And then you're

733
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Speaker 1: just kind of like, hear Noah Brown. You're like, dude,

734
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Speaker 1: we're what are we doing here? But CD did? He did?

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Speaker 1: But that's my But there's also Dak Prescott, face of

736
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Speaker 1: the franchise, voice of the franchise. You know, like when

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Speaker 1: he speaks, it's gonna be like, I mean, you're just

738
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Speaker 1: on a different level when you're a franchise forty million

739
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Speaker 1: dollars of course, when you're getting people to come out

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Speaker 1: to your backyard, the deack yard and go play, and

741
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Speaker 1: it's like, oh, well, you know, am I not good enough?

742
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Speaker 1: You want this guy? But I mean that's that's that's

743
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Speaker 1: part of it. But I mean, you know, he talked

744
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Speaker 1: about a lot of things, and I don't think these

745
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Speaker 1: really you know, he didn't get it into it about

746
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Speaker 1: win one for for coach. Now. I think people are

747
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Speaker 1: in the media are trying to play that narrative, and

748
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Speaker 1: that's just this. He hasn't been here long enough where

749
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Speaker 1: you're gonna be like, gotta win this for coach. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I bet you. Half to half the players are like,

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Speaker 1: oh he coached, Oh yeah that's right, Yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: was in college. Yeah, I forgot Yeah. I mean like,

753
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Speaker 1: it's not that big a deal. So that's not the

754
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Speaker 1: storyline for the players. I think the storyline for the

755
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: players is how to buy a week. It's been a

756
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: long it feels like a long two weeks. Let's go,

757
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: let's get after it. But guys are aware. Jame ron

758
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: Kurst talked about it on Monday, and Yeah and Hooker

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Speaker 1: talked about how how hey, we'd like to get him

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Speaker 1: a win and I and just being around this team

761
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: since we've all all have been around this team since

762
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Speaker 1: since July. I think there is a respect factor of

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Speaker 1: guys under a man, you know you're going back there.

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Speaker 1: We want to get you win for we know this

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Speaker 1: has a meaning for you, and obviously they want to

766
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Speaker 1: win for themselves first. But at the same time, hey,

767
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Speaker 1: if we're going back to Knick's backyard here, man, let's

768
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Speaker 1: go ahead and get a dub if if you're right,

769
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Speaker 1: you're right about that and if and if Mike McCarthy

770
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Speaker 1: stands in front of the team like he stood in

771
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 1: front of the media on Monday and gave that kind

772
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Speaker 1: of passion. He was just a real person and he

773
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Speaker 1: just said it got him about what's about Green Bay

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Speaker 1: because that's just that's his home and then and that

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Speaker 1: was tough. I can't imagine. I mean, it's a small town.

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine living there and then seeing all the

777
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: success that they had after you and like, well, good

778
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Speaker 1: we got rid of him. You know, he had to

779
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Speaker 1: hear all that, his family had to hear it. So

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00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: this means a lot of this is home and he

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Speaker 1: gets to go back there. So if he brings that

782
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: to that Saturday night meeting to the team, it'll probably

783
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: resonate pretty good. Yeah, I would say, yeah. The stuff

784
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Speaker 1: about Odell stood out most to me just because it's

785
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: the franchise quarterback talking about a player that's not on

786
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Speaker 1: the team, and we generally don't see many players, you know,

787
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Speaker 1: advocating to bring in other players and are outside the building.

788
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Speaker 1: But when he's talking about that, it also made me

789
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Speaker 1: think of, well, if the offense doesn't look like it

790
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: did against the Bears, all it's going to do is

791
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: throw gasoline on the fire of you know, if it's struggling,

792
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: let's say they got let's say they win the game,

793
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Speaker 1: but it's you know, seventeen thirteen or something like that,

794
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 1: it's just going to continue the hell that I think

795
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: they need another weapon on the perimeter type thing. But

796
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: now it was it was that and then him talking

797
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Speaker 1: about MacArthur the two things that stood up to me

798
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: talking about how he honestly can't wait for that Saturday

799
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Speaker 1: speech like you mentioned, like what is what is he

800
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Speaker 1: going to say? Because I think he will be a

801
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: little emotional about it. He's told us before that he's

802
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: had pregame speeches, though Sarady speeches where he went too

803
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Speaker 1: far and maybe got the team a little too riled

804
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: up and it had a negative effect on Sunday. So

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00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: I think he'll guard from being too much. But as

806
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: players amongst each other, I find it hard to believe,

807
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: because I do think. I do think that Green Bay

808
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Speaker 1: will have at Lambo some type of a video tribute

809
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: or something like that for everyone to give him a

810
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: standing ovation sometime before the game started, thanking him for

811
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Speaker 1: what he's done. And I do believe this will be

812
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: a game. If the Cowboys take care of business, you know,

813
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Speaker 1: it will be him getting the game ball after the

814
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Speaker 1: game's over. So I don't think it's their number one priority,

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Speaker 1: but I think it'll it'll be on everybody's mind. I

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Speaker 1: had asked him about that Monday, you know, how would

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Speaker 1: he how would he respond or how would he accept?

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Speaker 1: Yeah that if it happened, because I personally believe that's

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Speaker 1: what they'll do and that's what they should do. They Oh,

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Speaker 1: yeah that despite how it ended. The man won a

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Speaker 1: championship here, spent thirteen years here. They had a lot

822
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Speaker 1: of good years. He's got a street named after him.

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Speaker 1: He's coming back here. There's been enough time that you

824
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Speaker 1: was a franchise. You guys have been able to keep

825
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: on winning and do your thing. Yeah, I think he

826
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Speaker 1: deserves that, and I think I think he wants that.

827
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Speaker 1: Oh no, there's no question. Because he did a conference

828
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Speaker 1: call with the reporters and they brought up so far

829
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: this year, so they he's done one for the Green

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Speaker 1: Bay and there was one other game this year that

831
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Speaker 1: I know that he did one four. So they're not

832
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Speaker 1: as they're not very often, but once in a while.

833
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Speaker 1: I mean, we got Belichick I think last year, but

834
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Speaker 1: they're not as often they used to be every week.

835
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Speaker 1: But they talked about how Mike Holmgrom got a really

836
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Speaker 1: good ovation when he came back, and Mike said that,

837
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Speaker 1: you know, he would really like to get something similar.

838
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Speaker 1: So I don't I completely agree with you. I think

839
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Speaker 1: he would love for them to. I mean, let's be honest,

840
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't he win a super Bowl

841
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Speaker 1: somewhere I would think that, Yeah, it's not like, it's

842
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: not like doesn't happen very often. Man, it's not okay.

843
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Speaker 1: And the way you leave matters too. He didn't Brian

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Speaker 1: Kelly them and was like, no, I can't win a

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Speaker 1: super Bowl with the Packers. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go coach the you know, the Steelers. He was fired,

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Speaker 1: and he won a lot of games for them and

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Speaker 1: won them a super Bowl. As a street named after him.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand how if you're a Packers fan you

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Speaker 1: wouldn't give him a standing ovation. Yeah, I mean of course.

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00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 1: I mean and they're the owners too of the team.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, But also, you know,

853
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Speaker 1: I think this is probably calls for an innovation too.

854
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 1: When it's like, Okay, our team sucks because they suck

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Speaker 1: according to one of their players. You know, their team

856
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 1: is struggling. This team's one of the top five teams

857
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Speaker 1: in the league. You know, he is a pretty good coach.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they'll think like that. So I think it'll probably will.

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Speaker 1: I think that there'll be people that boo and Booze

860
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: are a lot louder than Cheers, But I think for

861
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Speaker 1: the most part it will be good. The other then

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00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: other interesting thing too about that dynamic. And again I'm

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Speaker 1: not a Packers fan. I wasn't around, and so I

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Speaker 1: don't know for sure. I just go back to that

865
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Speaker 1: time and I just remember it being a very Mike

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Speaker 1: or Aaron and obviously fans would be on the side

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Speaker 1: of Aaron. And then just how things have gone this year.

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Speaker 1: I just wonder if, like, and it's not just this year,

869
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Speaker 1: but it's the last few years. And I understand this

870
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Speaker 1: is we're talking about guys, one of the last two MVPs.

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Speaker 1: But there is a part that I just feel is wearing.

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Speaker 1: I'm Packers fans, like, uh, he's doing this stuff again,

873
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Speaker 1: here we go, you know, like he's so talented, we

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00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: got to keep him and we don't have anybody to

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Speaker 1: replace him. But man, this act is kind of getting

876
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 1: old nobody to help him. Yeah too, Yeah, which they've

877
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: not helped him. The general, the general man who has

878
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: done a terrible job. Yeah. And Brian going to consent

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00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: to me when I look at what he's done as

880
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 1: he's failed. Yeah, he's failed to get this team what needed.

881
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: That's why it worked before with Aaron Rodgers, ironically, when

882
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 1: you drafted a quarterback in the first round and still

883
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: had a really good one. But I think all the

884
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: time when I go when the Cowboys draft a quarterback,

885
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: when you know, when do you do that? And all that? Man,

886
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: I do that when I have to. I just I

887
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: just don't like sitting on a first round pick sure

888
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: like they are right now. I wonder whence the last

889
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: time they've been this bad at wide receiver though, I mean,

890
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: I'm talking going all the way back to Sterling Sharp

891
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: like Brett far would always have at least some guy,

892
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Speaker 1: and then when Aaron Rodgers took over, you know there

893
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: was always a Greg Jennings or Jordy Nelson or you

894
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: look at those guys and they would go to other teams,

895
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: didn't happen with Brady too. Yeah, you know, Deon Branch

896
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: and these guys that would go to other teams like

897
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: he makes them better. And now I just don't think

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Speaker 1: his talent is good enough to raise the level of

899
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Speaker 1: all these other guys. Well, I so so think though

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Speaker 1: it's not the Carpenter's the tools. You know, if you

901
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: give me a you know, if the tool is dull,

902
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: I can't sit up here. And Allen is hard. Yeah,

903
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Speaker 1: but what would Allen Lazard be here? We wouldn't Jordy

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Speaker 1: Nelson ever be? Oh, I don't know. I think Jordi

905
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: Nelson was a good football player. James Jones, James Jones

906
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Speaker 1: is they're all good coming out of I mean, I'm

907
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Speaker 1: just saying he would when he was a Kansas say

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00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: that was a guy looked like you know, and I

909
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 1: remembered one of the scouts here really like Jordy Nelson.

910
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: But Jason Garrett wasn't on. But that was a guy

911
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: when you looked at him in contact, that guy could

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Speaker 1: be a good pro. But like James Jones is a

913
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Speaker 1: guy I always think of, And Dion Branch is another

914
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: ye really good with their team to go somewhere else

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Speaker 1: to make the money because they got to feed their kids.

916
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Speaker 1: Doesn't work out, they get cut, they go back, have

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Speaker 1: success again. Randall Cobbs another one. R Cobbs has better

918
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Speaker 1: success with the Ron Robinson. Sorry, I think I'm thinking

919
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Speaker 1: of the the you know, the Sterling Sharps, the Donald Drivers,

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Speaker 1: the Jordan Nelson's, the Davantae Adams, those guys who were

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Speaker 1: really good players, first second round picks. Who who now

922
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Speaker 1: working between them at that time and in the rut

923
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Speaker 1: is Bill Schrader. He was pretty good with fire and

924
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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, like they goes to the Lions,

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Speaker 1: they pay him a bunch of money, and he's exactly

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Speaker 1: what you're saying. Schrader got a lot of money. He

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Speaker 1: got a pretty good I mean, he got paid to

928
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: be like their number two receivers. But it happens. Alvin

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Speaker 1: An Harper about to say, Harper, Laurent Robinson, you know

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00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: this happens. But but you're right though, we would not

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Speaker 1: even know Robert Tynyon and Allen Lazared if it was

932
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Speaker 1: not for Aaron Rodgers. Well and so so. But you've

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Speaker 1: got to at least give him some talent. These the

934
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Speaker 1: carpenters tools are bad right there. And the problem I

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Speaker 1: have with the general managers there is there were available,

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Speaker 1: proven receivers. They chose not to go kill for sure.

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Speaker 1: I mean Amari Cooper for a five. If you're the Packers,

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Speaker 1: why don't you do that? Yeah? Okay, um, I don't

939
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Speaker 1: know if they wanted to pay the price, but still

940
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: you had the Chiefs got rid of they got got

941
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Speaker 1: to Tyree kill. He was available. A J. Brown for

942
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Speaker 1: the Titans was available. I mean you had players while

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Speaker 1: you lost Adams, and you were willing to pay Adams.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't about money. I mean Adam saying, hey, may

945
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: Packers offen you want money than than than the Raiders.

946
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Speaker 1: So you had money, you chose not to spend it.

947
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Speaker 1: You didn't take care of your franchise quarterback. The guy's

948
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Speaker 1: a great quarterback, but he's not a magician. You can't

949
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: sit around here make these frogs princes because that's what

950
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 1: they got a bunch of frogs and they're not winning.

951
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: So but when at his best, I don't think anybody's

952
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: ever played the game at a higher level, and so

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Speaker 1: I wonder if he's kind of been taken for granted,

954
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Speaker 1: like like, oh, we can kind of do this and

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Speaker 1: we'll be Everyone does it with the great players and

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Speaker 1: what is hey man, this is fun. As always, I

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Speaker 1: appreciate the conversation. Nick Eatman, Dallas Cowboys dot Com. The

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Speaker 1: originator he is John showeda of the athletic I'm to

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Speaker 1: discuss media mash and we will do this again Tuesday. Tuesday,

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