WEBVTT - Hour 2 - Jason Kelce Officially Retires, Ryan Leaf

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, it's our two in this Tuesday Dan and the

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Edge Dan Patrick Show. Russell Wilson looking for a team,

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<v Speaker 2>Denver looking for a quarterback. What a mess. Two years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>If you would have said, hey, you know how this

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<v Speaker 2>is going to play out, you wouldn't have picked that

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<v Speaker 2>end result. The Broncos got Russ. He had gone to

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<v Speaker 2>nine Pro Bowls back when it meant something to go

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<v Speaker 2>to a Pro Bowl. And I wondered last year, I said,

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<v Speaker 2>is it possible that you can play your way out

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<v Speaker 2>of being a Hall of Famer? And we had analysts

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<v Speaker 2>who said yes, because Russ his trajectory was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a Hall of Famer. He had gone to two

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<v Speaker 2>Super Bowls, he won, won nine time Pro Bowl quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>Now he goes to Denver. They gave up an awful

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<v Speaker 2>lot five draft picks, two first round picks, three players

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<v Speaker 2>in exchange for him, and they got a fourth round pick.

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<v Speaker 2>Denver won eleven of thirty games. Now, Russ didn't play

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<v Speaker 2>well that first year. The second year he had decent,

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<v Speaker 2>respectable numbers and they were close to making the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>And I wonder if they had made the playoffs, would

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<v Speaker 2>they have moved on from Russell Wilson. We talked about

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<v Speaker 2>this with San Francisco. If San Francisco had won the

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<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl, would they have gotten rid of their defensive

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<v Speaker 2>coordinator Steve Wilkes. I can imagine that conversation. And when

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<v Speaker 2>do you have that conversation. Hey, it's a great parade

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<v Speaker 2>here in San Francisco. Hey, Steve, come here, Come here.

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<v Speaker 2>Once the parade is over, you're gonna have to find

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<v Speaker 2>a new team. Or if Sean Payton goes into Russell

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<v Speaker 2>Wilson after making the playoffs, let's say last year, Russ

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<v Speaker 2>is like all excited, coach, really excited. U. Yeah about that,

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to move on from you. And now Russ

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<v Speaker 2>has an opportunity to get paid well and maybe go

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<v Speaker 2>to Atlanta, maybe Pittsburgh, maybe the Raiders, maybe the Patriots.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe goes to a team that's going to draft a quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>He's probably, as Mike Florio pointed out Pro Football Talk,

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to want to guarantee that he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be the starter. Denver has to pay his salary. He

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<v Speaker 2>could go anywhere for the veteran minimum of one point

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<v Speaker 2>two million Kurt Warner did this, went to the Giants.

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<v Speaker 2>Then he backed up Eli Manning, and we thought his

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<v Speaker 2>career was over. Trajectory Hall of Famer. Then all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden, he's not even starting. He's a backup to

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<v Speaker 2>Elime Manning. And then the Cardinals take a chance on him,

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<v Speaker 2>leads them to the Super Bowl and he becomes a

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<v Speaker 2>Hall of Famer as a result. All right, well, come

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<v Speaker 2>up with the poll question for hour two. Phone calls

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<v Speaker 2>always welcome. We'll get to those this hour and we

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Paul Russell Wilson nine Pro Bowls. I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 3>quarterbacks with eight or more Pro Bowls. Every one of

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<v Speaker 3>them is in the Hall of Fame except for this,

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<v Speaker 3>and he could be in the Hall of Fame. Philip

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<v Speaker 3>Rivers eight Pro Bowls, not in the Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone else, guys like Dan Marino, John Elway. There's a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of quarterbacks who have much Ben Roethlisberger six Pro Bowls,

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<v Speaker 3>Troy Aikman six, Dan Fouts six, Roger Strawbacks six and

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<v Speaker 3>they're all in the Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Roger, you know, I'd grade that on a curve

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<v Speaker 2>because he came into the NFL, I think at twenty eight,

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<v Speaker 2>so he got a lot done when he got into

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL. Dan Fouds didn't win a Super Bowl. Troy

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<v Speaker 2>won three, you know, so Ben won what three or

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<v Speaker 2>two two Super Bowls. So you know, when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to that position, you can make your arguments one way

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<v Speaker 2>or another something, you can make the stats work for you.

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<v Speaker 2>But I go back to the writing on the wall.

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<v Speaker 2>A few months ago, Broncos beat the Chiefs. Broncos reportedly

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<v Speaker 2>came to Russ at the beginning of a bye week.

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<v Speaker 2>He said that it was either Monday or Tuesday, and

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<v Speaker 2>they told him if he didn't change his contract his

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<v Speaker 2>injury guarantee, that he'd be benched for the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>the year. That was a December of twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 2>and they just didn't want to get into a situation

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<v Speaker 2>where if Russ got hurt, then they're on the hook

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<v Speaker 2>for over fifty million dollars with Russ and they were

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<v Speaker 2>moving on from Russ. They just wanted to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that it was going to be a clean break, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's what they have now.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, Tod, And that's a division rival that's winning Super

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<v Speaker 4>Bowls that they hadn't beaten like fifteen times in a row.

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<v Speaker 5>So talk about timing.

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<v Speaker 4>They obviously had no sensitivity at all to what Russell's

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<v Speaker 4>future was with the two.

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<v Speaker 5>Then that's two and a half months ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Todd, Bronco apologist.

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<v Speaker 5>I was hoping they'd stick it out one more year.

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<v Speaker 2>Ass let's ride, Let's ride with somebody else like JJ McCarthy,

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<v Speaker 2>Bo Nicks. I'm looking at the options that this according

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<v Speaker 2>to the Denver Post this morning, Bodex, Michael Pennix Junior,

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<v Speaker 2>JJ McCarthy, Gardner Minshew Jamis Winston. How about Justin Fields

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<v Speaker 2>as a trade target? How about that?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, Mark, Where do you think the best fit is

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<v Speaker 6>for Russell Wilson if you think he's still a starter

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<v Speaker 6>in the league.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's still a starter. I mean there's there's

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<v Speaker 2>some quarterback play that's not very good. He wants to

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<v Speaker 2>go to a situation where you're going to win, like

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<v Speaker 2>he would be the last piece there. You know, Pittsburgh,

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<v Speaker 2>I would think, if you're going to try to win

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<v Speaker 2>a division, the NFC South, if Baker Mayfield would end

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<v Speaker 2>up somehow someplace else in Tampa would be open, or

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<v Speaker 2>if Atlanta's going to be open, but if Kirk Cousins

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<v Speaker 2>wants that job in Atlanta. See, I still I like

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<v Speaker 2>Kirk Cousins, but I wouldn't take a chance on him

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<v Speaker 2>right now if I'm Atlanta, because he's going to come

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<v Speaker 2>off Achilles surgery, probably not going to be available to

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<v Speaker 2>start the year the season, and what is he thirty

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<v Speaker 2>five thirty six and you're gonna have to pay him

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<v Speaker 2>forty five million dollars a year. I would much rather

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<v Speaker 2>take a chance on Justin Fields. Maybe you find something there.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you're eventually gonna have to pay Justin Fields.

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<v Speaker 2>But and Kirk Cousins is a better quarterback. But are

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<v Speaker 2>you thinking short term? You think in long term? And Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Atlanta's made a lot of mistakes here now

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<v Speaker 2>trying to find a quarterback. Didn't find a quarterback? How

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<v Speaker 2>many people did they interview for the head coaching position there?

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<v Speaker 2>And you had a chance to hire Bill Belichick and

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't do that. Maybe they get this right. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>they bring in Russ. Russ's wife is from Atlanta, kirk

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<v Speaker 2>cousins wife is from Atlanta. Maybe the Raiders would be involved.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think there's a there's a few outliers here

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<v Speaker 2>that trying to factor this in and it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>affect the draft if kirk Cousins stays in Minnesota. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>now it's a free for all for Atlanta. They want

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<v Speaker 2>to have that pick, trade that pick, they want to

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<v Speaker 2>bring in Russ, they want to use the pick on

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<v Speaker 2>a quarterback, they want to bring in Baker Mayfield. You

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<v Speaker 2>have some options there. Pittsburgh, what do they do? Doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>seem like they're sold on any of those quarterbacks, no

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<v Speaker 2>matter what they say publicly. Would they bring in or

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<v Speaker 2>try to bring in Kirk Cousins, Will they try to

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<v Speaker 2>bring in Russell Wilson, Would they bring in Baker Mayfield

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<v Speaker 2>who played in the division with the Browns. So there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of things going on, certainly, but the quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>dominoes start with Kirk Cousins, depending on what he wants

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<v Speaker 2>to do. The whole question for hour two is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be what seat O'Connor.

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<v Speaker 7>Let me update you Dan from the first hour we

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<v Speaker 7>have up there. Cutting Russell Wilson at the cost of

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<v Speaker 7>eighty five million dollars over the next two years is

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<v Speaker 7>crazy or right now, sixty one percent of the audience, sorry,

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<v Speaker 7>sixty two percent wish said it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, crazy.

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<v Speaker 7>I wonder how much, like, could they have just benched

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<v Speaker 7>him and saved fifty million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Wall still have he's on the roster. Yeah, so you

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<v Speaker 2>have to pay him.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I'm just wondering if there were other options that

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<v Speaker 7>could work.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't I don't.

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<v Speaker 7>I get lost in all of this, you know, dead cat, Oh,

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<v Speaker 7>I know this. This guy's paying that one for this

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<v Speaker 7>thing and then whatever. But really it's not that bad

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<v Speaker 7>when you look at it, because it's only what I

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<v Speaker 7>get lost in all that crap.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, I saw this, and uh, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what these yeah, these articles or headlines really mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Drake May was his authentic self at the combine, and

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL liked it. Okay, how do you know he's

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<v Speaker 2>his authentic self?

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<v Speaker 5>He's normally such a phony.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and of course the NFL would like that, right, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>he was authentic, or at least you think he was.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna like that now if somebody said, man, he

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't his authentic self and the NFL hated it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I get it. Felt like, hey, we're trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>a story here, let's write about Drake. May say something

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<v Speaker 2>nice about him. He was his authentic self. Who's the

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<v Speaker 2>judge of that?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, marm And that's so weird because on your job interview,

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<v Speaker 6>you're the fakest you can possibly be, no doubt, no doubt, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 6>what's your you know, what's your worst quality? Man, I

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<v Speaker 6>just care too much.

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<v Speaker 7>It's almost like somebody close to him wants him to

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<v Speaker 7>sound really great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, he was his authentic self. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean I wonder who could be saying that to

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<v Speaker 7>the media. Someone perhaps who wants him to go up

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<v Speaker 7>in the draft.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh huh dot dot.

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<v Speaker 3>Would be great with these draftees answered completely honesty at

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<v Speaker 3>the combat So which team you want to play for?

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<v Speaker 2>Not the Bears? I'm sorry, Yeah, I said that.

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<v Speaker 5>I love you know what.

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<v Speaker 2>We liked him. He was his authentic self. So was

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<v Speaker 2>Jason Kelsey segue.

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<v Speaker 8>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>He decided that he was going to announce his retirement,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know when I saw the setup for the

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<v Speaker 2>press conference, and he comes in National TV ESPN, I

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<v Speaker 2>think broke into programming, and he's got a sleeveless green

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<v Speaker 2>shirt on like he's been lifting weights, and he's got

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<v Speaker 2>a gold watch like. I can't imagine him leaving the

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<v Speaker 2>house that morning and his wife going, wait, you're gonn

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<v Speaker 2>announce your retirement looking like that. Oh, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll put on a gold watch then, and he goes

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<v Speaker 2>in there. It's as if he was just working out

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<v Speaker 2>and he came right from the weight room, sat down

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<v Speaker 2>and said this.

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<v Speaker 9>And so this all brings us here to today where

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<v Speaker 9>I announce that I am retiring, where I announced I'm

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<v Speaker 9>retiring from the NFL after thirteen seasons with the Philadelphia Eagles,

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<v Speaker 9>and today I must admit I am officially overrated, vastly overrated.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, he's a Hall of Famer, and I think he

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<v Speaker 2>probably realized, let's jump now, as opposed to wait another year.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's ride your brother's success, his popularity, your podcast, and

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to have a lot of opportunities in the media.

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<v Speaker 2>CBS may blow up their pregame show and bring in

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<v Speaker 2>someone like that, put him in there with Nate Burlson.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got this opportunity to be able to pick where

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<v Speaker 2>he wants to go, and he can still do his

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<v Speaker 2>podcast with his brother boy Travis. Better stayed with Taylor

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<v Speaker 2>Swift because once that relationship, if it goes south, so

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<v Speaker 2>does that podcast. I have to believe that a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of Taylor Swift fans are listening to that podcast to

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<v Speaker 2>make it the number one podcast. But he does, he

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<v Speaker 2>does have value. It's rare when an offensive lineman, let

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<v Speaker 2>alone a center, becomes a household name. He was in

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<v Speaker 2>People Magazine's Sexiest Men Alive. His brother co hosted Saturday

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<v Speaker 2>Night Live. He won a Super Bowl. He's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a Hall of Famer, and I think he realized,

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<v Speaker 2>as you find with a lot of these guys. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>go back to Nate Burlson volunteered to work the draft

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<v Speaker 2>for ESPN ESPN Radio. He just wanted to see what

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<v Speaker 2>it was like and maybe he was twenty four to

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five years of age. Paulie and Seaton were there,

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<v Speaker 2>and Nate paid his own way to the draft. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't asking for any money. His teammate in Minnesota, Corey Chavis,

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<v Speaker 2>was the All Pro and wanted to get into the media,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was working for ESPN back then and getting paid.

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<v Speaker 2>But Nate realized, we don't care who you are and

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<v Speaker 2>what you've accomplished. You got to put in some time.

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<v Speaker 2>And Nate was a good receiver, but he didn't. He

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't a household name by any means. But you see

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<v Speaker 2>him now and he's so charismatic and he's so good.

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<v Speaker 2>He had a plan. It's like Michael Strahan, Strahan defensive lineman,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, with a big gap in his teeth. But

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<v Speaker 2>he was always available. Came from a small school, but

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<v Speaker 2>you realized that he had a lot of personality there

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<v Speaker 2>so much so, Hey, Fox's pregame show, No, let's take

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<v Speaker 2>it up another notch or two. How about co hosting

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<v Speaker 2>Good Morning America? Nate Burlson, Let me volunteer, Let me

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<v Speaker 2>do a couple of things. Hey, now I'm on NFL today. CBS. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>they want me to host the CBS morning show. Co

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<v Speaker 2>host that with Gail King. I mean, it doesn't happen

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<v Speaker 2>that way, but those two saw the opportunity and they

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<v Speaker 2>weren't household names, but they became household names. Jason Kelsey

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<v Speaker 2>has that opportunity and it's better to go a year

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<v Speaker 2>early than a year late. Tiki Barber did this. He

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<v Speaker 2>tried to do this, and Tiki wasn't ready for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Boomersiasin did this. He was ready for this. Eli Manning

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<v Speaker 2>could have played another year. He decided that it was

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<v Speaker 2>time to go. And it's tricky because you want to

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<v Speaker 2>play your program to play. You don't want to walk away,

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<v Speaker 2>but then you have to think about the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>your life. Nate Burleson and Michael Strahan are set up

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of their life because they left a year

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<v Speaker 2>early or two years earlier. Because if you don't, somebody

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<v Speaker 2>else takes that job, maybe they become a star. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you never get that opportunity, and maybe you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>see that as far as you know, a pregame show

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<v Speaker 2>with Jason Kelcey, because you already have JJ Watt on there.

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<v Speaker 2>So now you're getting a different perspective than just hey,

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<v Speaker 2>let me have a bunch of quarterbacks up here or

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<v Speaker 2>a coach. Now you're getting an offensive lineman, a defensive lineman.

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<v Speaker 2>And then if you put Nate Burlson in there, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a former wide receiver. Now it gets a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more interesting. We tend to focus on the quarterback and

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<v Speaker 2>everything they have to say. Sometimes that lineman tells you

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<v Speaker 2>things that you know the nuances of the game, or

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<v Speaker 2>a defensive lineman, and that's what makes it entertaining. But

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<v Speaker 2>Jason Kelcey'll have his opportunity. He also had this to

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<v Speaker 2>say at this press conference.

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<v Speaker 9>Thank you Philadelphia, from the bottom of my heart, thank

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<v Speaker 9>you for letting me represent this city and allowing me

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<v Speaker 9>into your homes every Sunday. It has truly been a privilege.

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<v Speaker 9>You have all been so good to me and my

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<v Speaker 9>family growing up in Cleveland. I watched all of my

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<v Speaker 9>favorite athletes leave the city. Hell, a whole team left

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<v Speaker 9>the city. It has always been a goal of mine

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<v Speaker 9>to play my whole career in one city, and I

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<v Speaker 9>couldn't have dreamt a better one and a better fit

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<v Speaker 9>if I tried.

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<v Speaker 2>And guy, I'll never have to buy a beer in

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<v Speaker 2>Philadelphia the rest of his life, that's for sure. And

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<v Speaker 2>then he had this to say, maybe a little too

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<v Speaker 2>much information, where he was talking about rumor of his

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<v Speaker 2>teammate Nick Foles.

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<v Speaker 9>I won't forget Nick Foles having the game of his

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<v Speaker 9>life on the biggest stage possible and the biggest Dick

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<v Speaker 9>on the team going up to Doug Peterson and asking

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<v Speaker 9>for the Philly Special and Doug Peterson having the biggest

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<v Speaker 9>balls in the stadium, say yeah, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, you can't get emotional when you're talking about some

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<v Speaker 2>guy's anatomy. I'm sorry, I guess you can, but you're

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<v Speaker 2>doing jokes and then you start balling.

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<v Speaker 8>No, you can't go. And the guy had the biggest

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<v Speaker 8>you both passed down and then never forget how biggy was.

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<v Speaker 5>I wish he could be like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean me, well, it was called the Philly Special.

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<v Speaker 2>Give me a second, Just give me a second, Philly.

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<v Speaker 8>Cheese take on.

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<v Speaker 2>It's good TV though, it was, but I'm going wait,

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<v Speaker 2>he just got emotional talking about Nick Fole's anatomy.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, not to mention. I don't know how gutsy

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<v Speaker 7>it was to make the call. Anyway, The Patriots had

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<v Speaker 7>just tried to play like five minutes earlier. I don't

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<v Speaker 7>know that it really took all that big, a gigantic

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<v Speaker 7>twigg and berries to be like, hey, want to try

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<v Speaker 7>the thing the Patriots just tried five minutes ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, let's go do that. Where did they ever

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<v Speaker 2>come up with such a crazy idea. Yeah, well yes, uh, Marvin.

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<v Speaker 6>Do you think it's the names of these plays that

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<v Speaker 6>make them seem more original than they actually are?

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<v Speaker 5>Like The Brotherly Shove is just really the QB Sneak?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I like the name.

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<v Speaker 6>No, I know, but it makes it seem more original

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<v Speaker 6>than what it actually is. The Philly Special, just like

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<v Speaker 6>Seeton said, the Patriots literally tried the same play.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's the names the weird part. It was called

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<v Speaker 2>the Philly Special with the Patriots.

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<v Speaker 8>That's the weird time, the most gigantic I've ever seen

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<v Speaker 8>asking Bill for that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you need a nickname, Marv. Like the Miracle of

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<v Speaker 3>the Meatlands, if it's a miracle of FedEx Field, it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't flow. You got you can't have sponsor, Like the

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<v Speaker 3>Metal you canna have hype. Those those phrases.

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<v Speaker 2>About a triple double, like a triple double became something,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because it's a triple double. Therefore you messed

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<v Speaker 2>around and got a triple double. That meant you had.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, ice Cube keeping track of his stats

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<v Speaker 2>on the playground, Come on, what Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>It's such a good day. No one had a better

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<v Speaker 5>day than him.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, but he said he messed around and had

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<v Speaker 2>a triple doub like.

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<v Speaker 5>He wasn't even trying. He was like the joker.

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<v Speaker 6>Give me on the court and I trouble last week,

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<v Speaker 6>messed around and got like, look I would even trying.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just messing around around. Just imagine if we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't come up with the name triple double, he would

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<v Speaker 2>have had a hard time with that lyric.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, give me on the court and I'm trouble. Last

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<v Speaker 5>week I did really.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Yes, and the Lakers out. The Lakers now beat

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<v Speaker 4>their super Sonics. That was pretty good, even though dates

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<v Speaker 4>the song a little bit now that they no longer exist.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's a all around good day.

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<v Speaker 2>For all right, Thank you, John. All Right, let's see,

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<v Speaker 2>We were just talking jelly beans. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>the brand name of that jelly bean is, but that's bad,

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<v Speaker 2>Like whatever happened to just traditional jelly beans?

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<v Speaker 3>Now gourmet?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, these are gourmet jelly beans. And they showed up

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<v Speaker 2>in a box, no plastic bag around the jelly beans.

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<v Speaker 2>They're just rattling around in this box. The big German

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<v Speaker 2>ordered them and I'm going These things stunt, they stink,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they got all these different flavors. Just give

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<v Speaker 2>me the traditional jelly bean. It's not a big deal.

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<v Speaker 7>Ye. So in addition to hot dogs, snow cones, popcorn, yes,

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<v Speaker 7>we now have jelly beans at Raised Delicatessen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, the backroom guys, Ray Ray handles all of that,

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<v Speaker 2>the bro Daga as we call it, the bro Daega popcorns,

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<v Speaker 2>snow cones, hot dog machine. And now we got jellybeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh body, Ryan Leaf doesn't eat like that. Maybe once did.

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<v Speaker 2>The former number two overall pick in nineteen ninety eight

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<v Speaker 2>and friend of the show and of course contributor to

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<v Speaker 2>NFL Network. He joins us here in the man cave.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to fill in for me on Friday. By

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<v Speaker 2>the way, thank you for the opportunity. Nervous.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I mean, I don't know how many of your

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<v Speaker 11>guest hosts show up, you know, and see how the

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<v Speaker 11>sausage is made to make sure. I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 11>want to let you down.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you're you're already putting in for extra credit. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I know what I'm doing here, all right, Oh you do? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I carry baggage with me you know, so I'd better

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<v Speaker 2>be I'd better be good. I don't have like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't get a second chance. Okay, you know to make

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<v Speaker 2>a first impression because of the baggage I bring. So

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<v Speaker 2>i'd better be good with my first opportunity or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't get s back. Yeah, but part of the

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<v Speaker 2>reason we love you is the baggage you do bring though.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, I know, but in most places that's fun to

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<v Speaker 11>be a guest, but not a guest host, all right.

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<v Speaker 11>The guest host part is like, oh, you better be

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<v Speaker 11>good at it because that's my seat, the seat over here.

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<v Speaker 11>I can just be moved out of the room while

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<v Speaker 11>you do the other three hours, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you about Russell Wilson because I brought

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<v Speaker 2>this up last year. Can you play yourself out of

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<v Speaker 2>the whole fame? And it feels like he has, but

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<v Speaker 2>it feels like like there was a precipitous drop in

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<v Speaker 2>confidence performance and the numbers weren't bad last year. But

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<v Speaker 2>why does Sean Payton want to move on from Russell Wilson?

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<v Speaker 11>I mean, I don't know if there's a bigger ego

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<v Speaker 11>out there than Sean Payton for somebody who hasn't accomplished

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<v Speaker 11>as much as like some other people too. He did

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<v Speaker 11>not want him from day one, and for whatever he

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<v Speaker 11>had to try to cover up to make it look

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<v Speaker 11>like he did, he did not want him. He was

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<v Speaker 11>stuck with him, and when he had the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 11>finally get it done and get him out, it was

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<v Speaker 11>going to happen. I thought Russell played pretty darn good

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<v Speaker 11>last year.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys say, but is this more about the coach

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<v Speaker 2>maybe than it is the quarterbacks? We're missing? Really what

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<v Speaker 2>we should be focusing on.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I don't think that the conversation should be around

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<v Speaker 11>necessarily Russell Wilson's lack of production. He produced last year

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<v Speaker 11>to a point where they were in playoff contention, and

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<v Speaker 11>Denver decided, hey, we'd rather, you know, not be on

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<v Speaker 11>the hook for all that money if you get ready

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<v Speaker 11>to get hurt then to maybe push for the playoffs actually,

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<v Speaker 11>And so that was that was disappointing to see as

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<v Speaker 11>a fan of Russell Wilson's a fan of the Denver

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<v Speaker 11>Broncos to see them kind of go away from that.

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<v Speaker 11>And I don't know what they do. I heard Seaton

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<v Speaker 11>talk about it. I mean, where do you start the

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<v Speaker 11>clock with with with Sean Payton, because I mean, there

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<v Speaker 11>in two years of dead cap hell, So how do

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<v Speaker 11>you go about building a true roster that can compete

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<v Speaker 11>in a division where a team seemingly feels like it

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<v Speaker 11>has a choke hold on everybody right now? I you know.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm glad that Russell's gone.

0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:47.120
<v Speaker 2>I bet you he is happy too.

0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:50.480
<v Speaker 11>I think the name you used right immediately, the Pittsburgh

0:23:50.480 --> 0:23:54.000
<v Speaker 11>Steelers is an optimal spot for him, especially if they

0:23:54.000 --> 0:23:55.960
<v Speaker 11>can get him for the league minimum. You don't quite

0:23:56.040 --> 0:23:57.640
<v Speaker 11>know if other teams will want to do that because

0:23:57.640 --> 0:24:00.240
<v Speaker 11>they have to negotiate with the Broncos and everything like that.

0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:02.119
<v Speaker 11>You don't want to stick it to them necessarily if

0:24:02.119 --> 0:24:04.119
<v Speaker 11>you are going and trying to do some business with

0:24:04.160 --> 0:24:06.040
<v Speaker 11>them in the next year or two or things like that.

0:24:06.119 --> 0:24:09.159
<v Speaker 2>Oh so you think that these teams may take a

0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:11.959
<v Speaker 2>little bit of that financial heat away from the Broncos.

0:24:12.080 --> 0:24:15.600
<v Speaker 11>I do because of the personal interactions between teams when

0:24:15.600 --> 0:24:16.880
<v Speaker 11>they go about that business.

0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:17.880
<v Speaker 5>If you walk into it.

0:24:18.000 --> 0:24:20.280
<v Speaker 11>I think the Haslam situation where they gave that money

0:24:20.320 --> 0:24:23.880
<v Speaker 11>to Deshaun Watson is going to do them detrimentally in future.

0:24:24.400 --> 0:24:27.280
<v Speaker 11>You know, interactions within teams because they were like, you've

0:24:27.280 --> 0:24:29.919
<v Speaker 11>outscrewed us on this, and we're not going to let

0:24:29.960 --> 0:24:31.600
<v Speaker 11>that happen. We're going to hold you accountable for it

0:24:31.640 --> 0:24:34.400
<v Speaker 11>for some time. So yeah, I don't think necessarily it's

0:24:34.440 --> 0:24:37.200
<v Speaker 11>just a foregone conclusion that he walks in and it's

0:24:37.200 --> 0:24:39.920
<v Speaker 11>a league minimum and the Broncos are on the hold

0:24:39.960 --> 0:24:41.159
<v Speaker 11>for all that extra money.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, if you're Russell Wilson, where do you want to go?

0:24:44.520 --> 0:24:46.119
<v Speaker 11>Well, I liked your point about I want to go

0:24:46.119 --> 0:24:47.479
<v Speaker 11>to a place where I think I can win, And

0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:50.520
<v Speaker 11>clearly Pittsburgh's a place where you can win because Mike

0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:53.240
<v Speaker 11>Tomlin has showcase that every single year he's been there.

0:24:53.400 --> 0:24:56.800
<v Speaker 11>What they've been missing since Ben Roethlisberger is competent quarterback play.

0:24:57.200 --> 0:24:58.960
<v Speaker 11>Mason Rudolph, even at the end of the year was

0:24:58.960 --> 0:25:00.920
<v Speaker 11>pretty darn good. But when you got into the playoffs.

0:25:01.280 --> 0:25:04.640
<v Speaker 11>I was on the sideline calling that game for Westwood

0:25:04.680 --> 0:25:07.520
<v Speaker 11>One and I saw it. Josh Allen was just this

0:25:07.680 --> 0:25:10.560
<v Speaker 11>much better than him in that game at high Mark Stadium.

0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:13.880
<v Speaker 11>So Russell could bring that to the table if they

0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:16.600
<v Speaker 11>are able to keep you know, t J. Watt healthy.

0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:19.080
<v Speaker 11>Who's the most dynamic defensive player in the league. I

0:25:19.080 --> 0:25:22.160
<v Speaker 11>think if he stays healthy, a good quarterback play where

0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:23.840
<v Speaker 11>you don't turn it over and you get some big

0:25:23.840 --> 0:25:25.440
<v Speaker 11>plays down I think that could be a good spot

0:25:25.440 --> 0:25:27.000
<v Speaker 11>for Yeah.

0:25:27.040 --> 0:25:29.800
<v Speaker 2>I just wonder he's gonna have a chip on your shoulder.

0:25:30.200 --> 0:25:31.000
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna want to.

0:25:30.960 --> 0:25:33.840
<v Speaker 11>Go to it to be hard. Yeah, it's gonna be

0:25:33.880 --> 0:25:37.800
<v Speaker 11>hard wherever he goes. Why this is hard to explain

0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:40.399
<v Speaker 11>to people, but when quarterbacks are drafted most likely in

0:25:40.440 --> 0:25:45.439
<v Speaker 11>the top ten a second stop, regardless of geographic change,

0:25:46.760 --> 0:25:50.320
<v Speaker 11>it's incredibly difficult to be successful somewhere else. And Russell

0:25:50.359 --> 0:25:52.520
<v Speaker 11>isn't that guy. But what Russell was able to accomplish

0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:56.880
<v Speaker 11>turned him into essentially a franchise quarterback, and him going

0:25:56.920 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 11>to another place has been rather difficult, and it has

0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:02.080
<v Speaker 11>been for everybody else. You see Jim Plunkett as a

0:26:02.160 --> 0:26:04.360
<v Speaker 11>number one overall pick able to go from the Patriots

0:26:04.400 --> 0:26:07.000
<v Speaker 11>to the Raiders and have success. Peyton Manning, of course,

0:26:08.600 --> 0:26:11.720
<v Speaker 11>still unknown for Aaron Rodgers. Brett Favre was able to

0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:12.679
<v Speaker 11>have some in Minnesota.

0:26:12.720 --> 0:26:13.440
<v Speaker 2>It's rarity.

0:26:13.520 --> 0:26:15.600
<v Speaker 11>It's a real rarity for somebody to have a Super

0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:19.359
<v Speaker 11>Bowl trophy in there trophy case then go and be

0:26:19.480 --> 0:26:21.960
<v Speaker 11>successful somewhere else. And now we're getting in the later

0:26:22.000 --> 0:26:24.879
<v Speaker 11>stages of his career. I'd love to see the resurgence.

0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:27.720
<v Speaker 11>I love Russell Wilson as a person. I think what

0:26:27.800 --> 0:26:30.159
<v Speaker 11>he's been able to accomplish. I think sometimes as you

0:26:30.240 --> 0:26:33.800
<v Speaker 11>and I have talked about the neural cognitive way he

0:26:33.840 --> 0:26:36.280
<v Speaker 11>went about things with Trevor Moad and the neutral thinking

0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:39.639
<v Speaker 11>has made him come across sometimes almost like a simulation.

0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:42.280
<v Speaker 11>But that was managed, that was the way it was

0:26:42.320 --> 0:26:45.280
<v Speaker 11>supposed to be. And it's really difficult to maybe kind

0:26:45.280 --> 0:26:47.000
<v Speaker 11>of manage that in the locker room when you don't

0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:50.440
<v Speaker 11>have the person that's helping you filtrate that they're available

0:26:50.480 --> 0:26:50.679
<v Speaker 11>to you.

0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:53.040
<v Speaker 2>But is this more mental? Yeah, physical, Oh it is.

0:26:53.080 --> 0:26:55.200
<v Speaker 11>I think it's more of a mental thing, I think.

0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:58.200
<v Speaker 2>And you were talking about Trevor Moad, his spiritual advisor.

0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:01.159
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, he was more of a Yeah, it was a

0:27:01.200 --> 0:27:04.719
<v Speaker 11>mind coach that they met at IMG and and Trevor

0:27:04.800 --> 0:27:07.480
<v Speaker 11>was also someone that helped me when I got out

0:27:07.480 --> 0:27:10.720
<v Speaker 11>of prison, Like we started working on that mindset and

0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:13.240
<v Speaker 11>it's effected me greatly. I mean, look at where I

0:27:13.240 --> 0:27:15.200
<v Speaker 11>am ten years from now, I mean ten years ago today,

0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:16.919
<v Speaker 11>I was sitting in a prison cell, and now.

0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:20.200
<v Speaker 2>You're just how does he help you mentally? You're physically

0:27:20.200 --> 0:27:22.680
<v Speaker 2>out of a prison cell. Was it you couldn't get

0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:24.040
<v Speaker 2>mentally out of a prison cell?

0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:24.320
<v Speaker 9>Yeah?

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:26.760
<v Speaker 11>I think for a little while, I was, oh, listen

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:28.520
<v Speaker 11>to this. The day I woke up after my first

0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:30.879
<v Speaker 11>day out of prison, my hometown newspaper ran in a

0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:34.119
<v Speaker 11>cartoon that said, lock up your medicine cabinets, Ryan leafs

0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:37.639
<v Speaker 11>out my hometown newspaper, and my immediate reaction in that

0:27:37.720 --> 0:27:42.080
<v Speaker 11>moment was like, like, where's the hope? Like this is

0:27:42.080 --> 0:27:43.840
<v Speaker 11>what it's going to be for the rest of my life?

0:27:43.880 --> 0:27:44.280
<v Speaker 2>How am I?

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:47.080
<v Speaker 11>How am I ever supposed to get past this? I

0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:49.639
<v Speaker 11>might as well just you know, go back to muscle

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:52.840
<v Speaker 11>memory and feed that that numbing feeling. I mean, that's

0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:56.840
<v Speaker 11>that was the moment of thought, and working with Trevor

0:27:57.000 --> 0:27:59.640
<v Speaker 11>was around, Hey, no, it's we're not up, We're not down.

0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:05.240
<v Speaker 11>WHI is just here, there's no negative, negative mindset moving forward.

0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:07.400
<v Speaker 11>And from that point and I have I was nowhere

0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:10.399
<v Speaker 11>near as good as Russell was with it. I would

0:28:10.400 --> 0:28:14.240
<v Speaker 11>not allow negative information to creep in, and it's really

0:28:14.280 --> 0:28:17.080
<v Speaker 11>it really pushed me forward I had a choice every

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:19.760
<v Speaker 11>morning to wake up in a positive and healthy mood.

0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:20.840
<v Speaker 11>That was my choice.

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:24.960
<v Speaker 2>And Russe who's lost his you know, spiritual coach Trevor

0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:25.400
<v Speaker 2>pat I.

0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:27.560
<v Speaker 11>Do think that that played a huge impact, and I've

0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:30.879
<v Speaker 11>been one of the most on my soapbox talking about it.

0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:32.199
<v Speaker 11>Of course, you got to go out and perform, and

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:33.760
<v Speaker 11>I thought he did last year. I thought he was

0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:36.080
<v Speaker 11>very good in the red zone. The touchdown pass against

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:38.000
<v Speaker 11>Buffalo to the corner to Courtland Sutton was one of

0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:40.520
<v Speaker 11>the best throws I've ever seen from a quarterback, and

0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:42.880
<v Speaker 11>I thought he was getting better.

0:28:43.000 --> 0:28:45.280
<v Speaker 2>And I just does Sean just not like I mean,

0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:48.440
<v Speaker 2>does it come down to, I just don't like you.

0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:51.840
<v Speaker 11>You love your quarterback if you're an offensive play card caller,

0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 11>and he just did not like the way he went

0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:55.560
<v Speaker 11>about his business. You talked about the Detroit game over

0:28:55.600 --> 0:29:01.400
<v Speaker 11>Thanksgiving and just the around Christmas or someone was and

0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:05.000
<v Speaker 11>just the berating of him on on on what to

0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:05.600
<v Speaker 11>do down there.

0:29:05.600 --> 0:29:07.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, he just beat the Chiefs and then they said, hey,

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:09.600
<v Speaker 2>we want you to kind of help us with your

0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:10.320
<v Speaker 2>contract here.

0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:10.600
<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:12.760
<v Speaker 11>I just it wasn't a match made in Heaven. What

0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:15.680
<v Speaker 11>they've given up in terms of for for Russell Wilson.

0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:17.240
<v Speaker 11>You got to look at what they've given up for

0:29:17.240 --> 0:29:19.400
<v Speaker 11>for Sean Payton. You know, they gave up the draft pick,

0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:21.120
<v Speaker 11>they have a second round draft pick for him, They're

0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:25.040
<v Speaker 11>paying him a ton of money. Uh heuh goes and

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:28.560
<v Speaker 11>just kind of poopoos on the quarterback and trade that

0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:31.240
<v Speaker 11>his general manager made for before he got there two

0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:32.040
<v Speaker 11>years previous.

0:29:33.160 --> 0:29:33.680
<v Speaker 5>It is, it.

0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:36.440
<v Speaker 11>Doesn't seem like there is anything positive coming out of

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:38.800
<v Speaker 11>Denver right now, and that includes the Sean Payton scenario

0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:41.959
<v Speaker 11>because guess what, Russell Wilson's gone. So this honeymoon's going

0:29:42.000 --> 0:29:45.200
<v Speaker 11>to be short lived if things start spiraling pretty quickly

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:47.040
<v Speaker 11>like they have with Sean Payton. There hasn't been a

0:29:47.080 --> 0:29:49.440
<v Speaker 11>positive with Sean Payton since he got there, So let's

0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 11>not act like, oh now it's gonna change.

0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 5>There hasn't.

0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:55.560
<v Speaker 11>There's no evidence that points to anything positive happened in

0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 11>Denver with Sean Payton to this point.

0:29:57.240 --> 0:29:59.120
<v Speaker 2>Yet, how does their GM keep his job?

0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:02.200
<v Speaker 11>That was you guys made about the resume, I mean,

0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:03.840
<v Speaker 11>and I thought like, how how do you hand a resume?

0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:04.200
<v Speaker 2>And like that?

0:30:04.240 --> 0:30:04.560
<v Speaker 5>And go.

0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 11>Huh, Nathaniel Hackett that that right there there's a fireable

0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:14.920
<v Speaker 11>offence the Russell Wilson trade for amount you gave up. Realistically,

0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:16.520
<v Speaker 11>you could look at Sean Payton what you gave up

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:18.360
<v Speaker 11>to get him. Why give up a draft pick for

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:20.480
<v Speaker 11>a coach and then and then and then take on

0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:23.400
<v Speaker 11>all that money and then he'd be so bad. I'd yeah,

0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:26.720
<v Speaker 11>it's very interesting. It's it fits in line with what

0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:30.840
<v Speaker 11>maybe because the dysfunction around ownership it was. It was

0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:32.640
<v Speaker 11>so up and down on who who's gonna own it,

0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:34.720
<v Speaker 11>who doesn't, And they've kind of got lost in the

0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:37.200
<v Speaker 11>mix a little bit, and maybe now there's a little

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:38.200
<v Speaker 11>bit more of a focal point.

0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

0:30:39.000 --> 0:30:42.240
<v Speaker 2>Ryan Lee, former number two overall pick nineteen ninety eight draft,

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:45.400
<v Speaker 2>joining us here in studio. If the Bears take Caleb

0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Williams dot dot dot finish that.

0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 11>Uh, if they take him, I would be you better

0:30:54.360 --> 0:30:56.479
<v Speaker 11>be under the understanding that that that you're gonna sit

0:30:56.560 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 11>him this.

0:30:56.880 --> 0:30:59.480
<v Speaker 5>Year, and that's not gonna happen.

0:30:59.760 --> 0:31:01.440
<v Speaker 2>So why would you sit him?

0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:01.600
<v Speaker 12>Well?

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 11>Because seventy five percent of what he made him so

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:06.160
<v Speaker 11>great in college is not transferable to the NFL. He's

0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 11>not going to be able to do that. He can't

0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:10.880
<v Speaker 11>do what he did in college seventy five percent of

0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:13.440
<v Speaker 11>the time and be successful to the NFL level. He

0:31:13.480 --> 0:31:16.240
<v Speaker 11>can do the twenty five percent part at the NFL level,

0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:18.600
<v Speaker 11>but he needs some time. He needs to get under center.

0:31:18.760 --> 0:31:20.600
<v Speaker 11>He needs to understand and how to throw on time

0:31:20.760 --> 0:31:23.360
<v Speaker 11>on platform from the pocket. What he can do off

0:31:23.400 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 11>platform is what makes him so exciting because he may

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:27.640
<v Speaker 11>be one of the most talented quarterbacks in this year's

0:31:27.720 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 11>draft and many in the past two year's draft, but

0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 11>he is a guy that I don't think he can

0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:34.239
<v Speaker 11>be a starter on day one, and I think they

0:31:34.280 --> 0:31:36.520
<v Speaker 11>wanted to do that with Justin Fields. But like any

0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:38.880
<v Speaker 11>team that drafts any quarterback in the top five, you're

0:31:38.920 --> 0:31:43.200
<v Speaker 11>expected to play immediately, and unfortunately, I don't think he's

0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:45.920
<v Speaker 11>a starting quarterback this year. I think the two guys

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:47.720
<v Speaker 11>that I would put some faith in to be a

0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 11>starting quarterback this year would be probably Jaden Daniels and

0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:51.960
<v Speaker 11>Michael Pennix Junior. Those are the two guys I could

0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:54.520
<v Speaker 11>see being a first round pick that could start this season.

0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:55.680
<v Speaker 5>Drake No.

0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 11>I got Drake may as the second round guy. I

0:31:57.840 --> 0:32:00.360
<v Speaker 11>see him in very same mold as will le Us,

0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:03.520
<v Speaker 11>which clearly worked out well for Will none of the

0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:05.680
<v Speaker 11>anchor he had to carry for me in a first

0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:08.040
<v Speaker 11>round pick, got the opportunity to sit, and when he

0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:09.840
<v Speaker 11>took the opportunity, made the most of it. He's now

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:12.720
<v Speaker 11>their franchise quarterback. I see him very similar. Mold those two.

0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:16.440
<v Speaker 11>You love Penix. I do love Michael Pennix Jr. It's

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:18.560
<v Speaker 11>tough for me to say, being a Washington guy in

0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:21.480
<v Speaker 11>Washington State. So I just think he is the most

0:32:21.640 --> 0:32:24.640
<v Speaker 11>accurate down the field passer I've seen come out of college.

0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:26.360
<v Speaker 11>And I can't tell you when, but you think he

0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:28.360
<v Speaker 11>could start? Yeah, I think he could be a starting

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:30.920
<v Speaker 11>quarterback in depending on what scheme he gets in it.

0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:32.360
<v Speaker 11>And the good thing for him is not a lot

0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:35.080
<v Speaker 11>of people have given him a ton of credence. I

0:32:35.120 --> 0:32:37.720
<v Speaker 11>think he may have moved the needle little bit at

0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:40.320
<v Speaker 11>the combine because he was special. He has the strongest

0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 11>arm of all the quarterbacks in the field this year.

0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:46.120
<v Speaker 11>He's the most accurate down the field. He is a winner.

0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:48.960
<v Speaker 11>The thing that was weighing him down was the medicals.

0:32:49.000 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 11>People kept going back to that two catastrophic injuries that

0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:55.320
<v Speaker 11>ended season in Indiana. Well, he passed the medicals with

0:32:55.400 --> 0:32:58.040
<v Speaker 11>Flying Colors. I didn't get injured during college, yet I

0:32:58.040 --> 0:33:00.000
<v Speaker 11>got injured immediately in my second year in the NFL.

0:33:00.760 --> 0:33:02.280
<v Speaker 11>You have no idea how that's going to play out.

0:33:02.280 --> 0:33:06.160
<v Speaker 11>If you're gonna start registering injury being injury prone, you're

0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:08.720
<v Speaker 11>just you're gonna go crazy thinking about all that stuff. So, yeah,

0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:11.560
<v Speaker 11>he's my number one guy. I've been on him for

0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:14.560
<v Speaker 11>two years now and I haven't moved off my spot

0:33:14.600 --> 0:33:18.160
<v Speaker 11>that the National Championship is going to be something that

0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:20.760
<v Speaker 11>that's going to weigh him down a little bit because

0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:22.480
<v Speaker 11>of how good the defense was.

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<v Speaker 2>Well under pressure, he didn't do well at all.

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<v Speaker 11>Oh no, but you I don't know if there's a

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<v Speaker 11>more of a counter or polarizing difference of a National

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<v Speaker 11>semi final game to how good he was to how

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<v Speaker 11>bad he was in the National Championship, And that's that's

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<v Speaker 11>could be a little bit concerning it. Just it was

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<v Speaker 11>the worst possible to time for him to have his

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<v Speaker 11>worst game as a.

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<v Speaker 2>As a but that that was an elite defense, that

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<v Speaker 2>was a spectacular defense. And then you got JJ McCarthy's

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<v Speaker 2>I'm fixated on JJ McCarthy.

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<v Speaker 11>I just told my I think is the most fascinating

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<v Speaker 11>part of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't get it.

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<v Speaker 11>I get why people would think he could be good.

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<v Speaker 11>He's a five star kid out of out of Illinois,

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<v Speaker 11>he goes to Michigan. He's lost three games his entire

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<v Speaker 11>career in high school. In college, he's a winner. But

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<v Speaker 11>how can a guy who's superman for you in a game,

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<v Speaker 11>let's say against Penn State where Jim Harbaugh doesn't or

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<v Speaker 11>he's out and suspended, they don't ask him to throw

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<v Speaker 11>the ball once in the second half. I know he

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<v Speaker 11>was banged up a little bit, but I mean, I

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<v Speaker 11>don't care that there's something that throws me off a

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<v Speaker 11>little bit with that that I'd be like, well, do

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<v Speaker 11>we venture to risk a first round draft pick on

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<v Speaker 11>a guy that can be literally put on the shelf

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<v Speaker 11>for a half against one of your biggest rivals in

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<v Speaker 11>conference play? So I have him as the second round guy. Again,

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<v Speaker 11>we all know that they're not thirty two. Necessarily first

0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:46.040
<v Speaker 11>round grades to go around. The quarterbacks are always given more.

0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:49.640
<v Speaker 11>I think Pennic Junior could easily be a guy that

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<v Speaker 11>we see Baltimore. What Baltimore did a few years back

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<v Speaker 11>with mar Jackson, jumped back up into the first round,

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<v Speaker 11>got a guy with a fifth year option. I think

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<v Speaker 11>Penix could be guy late in the first round. What

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<v Speaker 11>don't surprised me at JJ McCarthy goes earlier than that.

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<v Speaker 11>I don't know if it's necessarily warranted, but again, if

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<v Speaker 11>you fall in love with somebody, they'll go do it.

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<v Speaker 2>He's Ryan Leeve. He'll be in this chair coming up

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<v Speaker 2>on Friday. Good to see you, buddy, Thank you too.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll take a break. Phone calls coming up back after this.

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<v Speaker 2>During the commercial breaks. On radio, you'll get actual commercials.

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<v Speaker 2>the backroom guy Rob will put together video clips from

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<v Speaker 2>previous shows. Eleven years ago, Keanu Reeves came into the

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<v Speaker 2>New York studio. I had never met him before. He

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<v Speaker 2>didn't come in with an entourage. He was outside smoking

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<v Speaker 2>cigarettes before he was going to do his interview, and

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<v Speaker 2>then then came in and could not have been nicer.

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<v Speaker 2>There was no ego at all. Had fun with everything

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<v Speaker 2>we talked about. We talked about point break and some

0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:06.719
<v Speaker 2>of the famous lines in there, but talk about somebody

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<v Speaker 2>who could have come in with an ego and entourage

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<v Speaker 2>and he didn't. And he looked like a million bucks.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he might have been fifty, maybe forty five fifty,

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<v Speaker 2>It looked like he was thirty. Just came in in

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<v Speaker 2>a million bucks. Killed it, killed it everybody. When he left,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody was like, we were going, what was that?

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<v Speaker 9>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Whoa to coin? You know, use one of his words, yes, Ton,

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<v Speaker 2>And he's known.

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<v Speaker 5>From at least from whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>He's super generous with his time and money to you know, staffers.

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<v Speaker 5>From all the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he didn't have us any money.

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<v Speaker 5>He did not give us any money.

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<v Speaker 4>But on movie sets you hear stories about different production

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<v Speaker 4>assistant and people he goes out of his way or

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<v Speaker 4>acknowledge them and try to help them financially.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was wonderful. I mean, there's a few of

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<v Speaker 2>those guests that where when Michael Douglas came in, Billy,

0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:58.680
<v Speaker 2>Bob Thornton and you're just going, this a pretty good job,

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<v Speaker 2>this pretty good gig. Now when it goes well. Kevin

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<v Speaker 2>Costner when he came in, although Paulie said something and

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin misinterpreted, and then Kevin Costner yelled at Paulie.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Paulin, but you said that Keanu Reeves had no entrage.

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<v Speaker 3>You were being literal. You know, we have mid level

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<v Speaker 3>celebrities and they have two or three people with them

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<v Speaker 3>in a handlers and big celebrities like you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think the Billy Bob Thornton booking was interesting

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<v Speaker 3>because somehow he said yes to our request and we

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<v Speaker 3>were shocked because at the time he had like had

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<v Speaker 3>an incident in Canada with a radio host. It was

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<v Speaker 3>like three months afterwards, and we had him in. We're

0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:32.680
<v Speaker 3>all like, this guy's gonna be tough. What are we

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<v Speaker 3>getting into? It was the opposite.

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<v Speaker 2>He was great, yep, and uh, you know, big baseball fan,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, he just kind of sent down that

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<v Speaker 2>was it, just chill. Let me see Cody in Texas. Hey, Cody,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for holding today.

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<v Speaker 12>Hey Dan got a hot take and I wanted your

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<v Speaker 12>opinion on it. What about Russell Wilson to Dallas solves

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<v Speaker 12>the salary cap issue?

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<v Speaker 5>MM?

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<v Speaker 2>So you're gonna let Dak Prescott go.

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<v Speaker 12>I mean, you know he's not getting it done in

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<v Speaker 12>Dallas dead and you know he wants sixty million a year.

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<v Speaker 12>That's I mean, you got Seed and Raymond. Michael Parsons DESN.

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<v Speaker 2>ESPN Programming just thanked you for that. I'm sure they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to run with that today. Okay, how do we

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<v Speaker 2>talk about Russell and the Cowboy? Yes, he'll replace Dak Prescott,

0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:29.440
<v Speaker 2>Cody More get up. Cody will give you credit if

0:38:29.719 --> 0:38:32.279
<v Speaker 2>Greenee or stephen A picked that up.

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<v Speaker 5>Today.

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<v Speaker 3>Cowboys have a new long stamper and Lebron's retiring god

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<v Speaker 3>Water cut up.

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<v Speaker 2>Marvin, Marvin and Hartford. Hey, Mary, good morning about heartbeat.

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<v Speaker 13>I was just touching base. I had a kind of

0:38:52.320 --> 0:38:55.399
<v Speaker 13>a thing I saw last night. I saw that they

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<v Speaker 13>prevented or they changed the rules, so Wilt Chamberlain dunk

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<v Speaker 13>from the free throw line. Yeah, so I thought that's

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<v Speaker 13>an amazing stat Do you think if they moved the

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<v Speaker 13>three point line back that would affect Steph Curry's legacy

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<v Speaker 13>in the long run.

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<v Speaker 2>Meaning.

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<v Speaker 13>So they had to change rules or add rules for

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<v Speaker 13>Wilf's dominance. And now you've got the NBA, everybody's just

0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:24.960
<v Speaker 13>chucking threes up all the time. I think that would

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<v Speaker 13>be something that possibly appropriate that they could do to

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<v Speaker 13>change the game up a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Steph's still going to be able to shoot from

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<v Speaker 2>that range. And keep in mind they took away the

0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:38.680
<v Speaker 2>dunk because of Leuel Sindor when he was in college.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they're going to change the guys

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<v Speaker 2>who are still going to shoot threes. I think at

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<v Speaker 2>some point, if you're going to expand the three point line,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to expand the court because if you will,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're in the corner. I think there's certain guys,

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<v Speaker 2>depending on the size of their feet, they can't stand

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<v Speaker 2>in bounds and shoot a three. Kevin Durant would probably

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<v Speaker 2>probably have a hard time doing that. You would have

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<v Speaker 2>to widen the floor at some point. Yeah, pullt and

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<v Speaker 2>you think you'd actually go the opposite.

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<v Speaker 3>If you want to change the NBA, you get rid

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<v Speaker 3>of the three point line and you devalue the shot

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<v Speaker 3>and now the court's wide open again.

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew in Washington, Hi, Andrew, what's on your mind?

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<v Speaker 14>Good morning, Dan? Dan bringing my authentic self at six. So, Dan,

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<v Speaker 14>I really think JJ McCarthy is this year's draft like

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<v Speaker 14>smoke screen. Everybody's going to talk about him. We're all

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<v Speaker 14>wondering where he's going to go. Everybody loves him. Well,

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<v Speaker 14>when you just look at the raw talent in the

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<v Speaker 14>stats from last year against the other five top prospects,

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<v Speaker 14>he had the least amount of TV's thrown at twenty

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<v Speaker 14>two and he also didn't even have a TD thrown

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<v Speaker 14>in five games last year. So I really think he'll

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<v Speaker 14>probably drop down and be this year's Will Levis.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Will levi Is still played. Showed glimpses there. I mean,

0:41:00.320 --> 0:41:04.120
<v Speaker 2>Will Levis looks like a quarterback. JJ McCarthy looks like

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<v Speaker 2>an actor who's going to play a quarterback. He's sort

0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:10.520
<v Speaker 2>of this year's version of Zach Wilson, just from you know,

0:41:10.719 --> 0:41:13.560
<v Speaker 2>the looks. You know he'd be on one Tree Hill

0:41:14.760 --> 0:41:17.319
<v Speaker 2>and maybe he's going to be an elite quarterback. Now

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<v Speaker 2>it's in the eye of the beholder. Final hour on

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<v Speaker 2>the way on this Tuesday. We'll check in with the Broncos.

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<v Speaker 2>Now what do they do at the quarterbacking position? More

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<v Speaker 2>phone calls as well. Always great to hear from you,

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<v Speaker 2>Operator Tyler standing by. Gang's all here, Fritzie Seaton, Marv Paula,

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<v Speaker 2>yours truly final hour after this