Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2: Hey, it's our two in this Tuesday Dan and the
Speaker 2: Dan Edge Dan Patrick Show. Russell Wilson looking for a team,
Speaker 2: Denver looking for a quarterback. What a mess. Two years ago.
Speaker 2: If you would have said, hey, you know how this
Speaker 2: is going to play out, you wouldn't have picked that
Speaker 2: end result. The Broncos got Russ. He had gone to
Speaker 2: nine Pro Bowls back when it meant something to go
Speaker 2: to a Pro Bowl. And I wondered last year, I said,
Speaker 2: is it possible that you can play your way out
Speaker 2: of being a Hall of Famer? And we had analysts
Speaker 2: who said yes, because Russ his trajectory was going to
Speaker 2: be a Hall of Famer. He had gone to two
Speaker 2: Super Bowls, he won, won nine time Pro Bowl quarterback.
Speaker 2: Now he goes to Denver. They gave up an awful
Speaker 2: lot five draft picks, two first round picks, three players
Speaker 2: in exchange for him, and they got a fourth round pick.
Speaker 2: Denver won eleven of thirty games. Now, Russ didn't play
Speaker 2: well that first year. The second year he had decent,
Speaker 2: respectable numbers and they were close to making the playoffs.
Speaker 2: And I wonder if they had made the playoffs, would
Speaker 2: they have moved on from Russell Wilson. We talked about
Speaker 2: this with San Francisco. If San Francisco had won the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, would they have gotten rid of their defensive
Speaker 2: coordinator Steve Wilkes. I can imagine that conversation. And when
Speaker 2: do you have that conversation. Hey, it's a great parade
Speaker 2: here in San Francisco. Hey, Steve, come here, Come here.
Speaker 2: Once the parade is over, you're gonna have to find
Speaker 2: a new team. Or if Sean Payton goes into Russell
Speaker 2: Wilson after making the playoffs, let's say last year, Russ
Speaker 2: is like all excited, coach, really excited. U. Yeah about that,
Speaker 2: We're going to move on from you. And now Russ
Speaker 2: has an opportunity to get paid well and maybe go
Speaker 2: to Atlanta, maybe Pittsburgh, maybe the Raiders, maybe the Patriots.
Speaker 2: Maybe goes to a team that's going to draft a quarterback.
Speaker 2: He's probably, as Mike Florio pointed out Pro Football Talk,
Speaker 2: he's going to want to guarantee that he's going to
Speaker 2: be the starter. Denver has to pay his salary. He
Speaker 2: could go anywhere for the veteran minimum of one point
Speaker 2: two million Kurt Warner did this, went to the Giants.
Speaker 2: Then he backed up Eli Manning, and we thought his
Speaker 2: career was over. Trajectory Hall of Famer. Then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, he's not even starting. He's a backup to
Speaker 2: Elime Manning. And then the Cardinals take a chance on him,
Speaker 2: leads them to the Super Bowl and he becomes a
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer as a result. All right, well, come
Speaker 2: up with the poll question for hour two. Phone calls
Speaker 2: always welcome. We'll get to those this hour and we
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Speaker 3: Yes, Paul Russell Wilson nine Pro Bowls. I'm looking at
Speaker 3: quarterbacks with eight or more Pro Bowls. Every one of
Speaker 3: them is in the Hall of Fame except for this,
Speaker 3: and he could be in the Hall of Fame. Philip
Speaker 3: Rivers eight Pro Bowls, not in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3: Everyone else, guys like Dan Marino, John Elway. There's a
Speaker 3: bunch of quarterbacks who have much Ben Roethlisberger six Pro Bowls,
Speaker 3: Troy Aikman six, Dan Fouts six, Roger Strawbacks six and
Speaker 3: they're all in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: Well, Roger, you know, I'd grade that on a curve
Speaker 2: because he came into the NFL, I think at twenty eight,
Speaker 2: so he got a lot done when he got into
Speaker 2: the NFL. Dan Fouds didn't win a Super Bowl. Troy
Speaker 2: won three, you know, so Ben won what three or
Speaker 2: two two Super Bowls. So you know, when it comes
Speaker 2: to that position, you can make your arguments one way
Speaker 2: or another something, you can make the stats work for you.
Speaker 2: But I go back to the writing on the wall.
Speaker 2: A few months ago, Broncos beat the Chiefs. Broncos reportedly
Speaker 2: came to Russ at the beginning of a bye week.
Speaker 2: He said that it was either Monday or Tuesday, and
Speaker 2: they told him if he didn't change his contract his
Speaker 2: injury guarantee, that he'd be benched for the rest of
Speaker 2: the year. That was a December of twenty twenty three,
Speaker 2: and they just didn't want to get into a situation
Speaker 2: where if Russ got hurt, then they're on the hook
Speaker 2: for over fifty million dollars with Russ and they were
Speaker 2: moving on from Russ. They just wanted to make sure
Speaker 2: that it was going to be a clean break, and
Speaker 2: that's what they have now.
Speaker 4: Yes, Tod, And that's a division rival that's winning Super
Speaker 4: Bowls that they hadn't beaten like fifteen times in a row.
Speaker 5: So talk about timing.
Speaker 4: They obviously had no sensitivity at all to what Russell's
Speaker 4: future was with the two.
Speaker 5: Then that's two and a half months ago.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Todd, Bronco apologist.
Speaker 5: I was hoping they'd stick it out one more year.
Speaker 2: Ass let's ride, Let's ride with somebody else like JJ McCarthy,
Speaker 2: Bo Nicks. I'm looking at the options that this according
Speaker 2: to the Denver Post this morning, Bodex, Michael Pennix Junior,
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy, Gardner Minshew Jamis Winston. How about Justin Fields
Speaker 2: as a trade target? How about that?
Speaker 6: Yes, Mark, Where do you think the best fit is
Speaker 6: for Russell Wilson if you think he's still a starter
Speaker 6: in the league.
Speaker 2: I think he's still a starter. I mean there's there's
Speaker 2: some quarterback play that's not very good. He wants to
Speaker 2: go to a situation where you're going to win, like
Speaker 2: he would be the last piece there. You know, Pittsburgh,
Speaker 2: I would think, if you're going to try to win
Speaker 2: a division, the NFC South, if Baker Mayfield would end
Speaker 2: up somehow someplace else in Tampa would be open, or
Speaker 2: if Atlanta's going to be open, but if Kirk Cousins
Speaker 2: wants that job in Atlanta. See, I still I like
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins, but I wouldn't take a chance on him
Speaker 2: right now if I'm Atlanta, because he's going to come
Speaker 2: off Achilles surgery, probably not going to be available to
Speaker 2: start the year the season, and what is he thirty
Speaker 2: five thirty six and you're gonna have to pay him
Speaker 2: forty five million dollars a year. I would much rather
Speaker 2: take a chance on Justin Fields. Maybe you find something there.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're eventually gonna have to pay Justin Fields.
Speaker 2: But and Kirk Cousins is a better quarterback. But are
Speaker 2: you thinking short term? You think in long term? And Atlanta,
Speaker 2: you know, Atlanta's made a lot of mistakes here now
Speaker 2: trying to find a quarterback. Didn't find a quarterback? How
Speaker 2: many people did they interview for the head coaching position there?
Speaker 2: And you had a chance to hire Bill Belichick and
Speaker 2: they didn't do that. Maybe they get this right. Maybe
Speaker 2: they bring in Russ. Russ's wife is from Atlanta, kirk
Speaker 2: cousins wife is from Atlanta. Maybe the Raiders would be involved.
Speaker 2: So I think there's a there's a few outliers here
Speaker 2: that trying to factor this in and it's going to
Speaker 2: affect the draft if kirk Cousins stays in Minnesota. Okay,
Speaker 2: now it's a free for all for Atlanta. They want
Speaker 2: to have that pick, trade that pick, they want to
Speaker 2: bring in Russ, they want to use the pick on
Speaker 2: a quarterback, they want to bring in Baker Mayfield. You
Speaker 2: have some options there. Pittsburgh, what do they do? Doesn't
Speaker 2: seem like they're sold on any of those quarterbacks, no
Speaker 2: matter what they say publicly. Would they bring in or
Speaker 2: try to bring in Kirk Cousins, Will they try to
Speaker 2: bring in Russell Wilson, Would they bring in Baker Mayfield
Speaker 2: who played in the division with the Browns. So there's
Speaker 2: a lot of things going on, certainly, but the quarterback
Speaker 2: dominoes start with Kirk Cousins, depending on what he wants
Speaker 2: to do. The whole question for hour two is going
Speaker 2: to be what seat O'Connor.
Speaker 7: Let me update you Dan from the first hour we
Speaker 7: have up there. Cutting Russell Wilson at the cost of
Speaker 7: eighty five million dollars over the next two years is
Speaker 7: crazy or right now, sixty one percent of the audience, sorry,
Speaker 7: sixty two percent wish said it's crazy.
Speaker 2: Okay, crazy.
Speaker 7: I wonder how much, like, could they have just benched
Speaker 7: him and saved fifty million dollars.
Speaker 2: Wall still have he's on the roster. Yeah, so you
Speaker 2: have to pay him.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm just wondering if there were other options that
Speaker 7: could work.
Speaker 5: I don't I don't.
Speaker 7: I get lost in all of this, you know, dead cat, Oh,
Speaker 7: I know this. This guy's paying that one for this
Speaker 7: thing and then whatever. But really it's not that bad
Speaker 7: when you look at it, because it's only what I
Speaker 7: get lost in all that crap.
Speaker 2: By the way, I saw this, and uh, I don't
Speaker 2: know what these yeah, these articles or headlines really mean.
Speaker 2: Drake May was his authentic self at the combine, and
Speaker 2: the NFL liked it. Okay, how do you know he's
Speaker 2: his authentic self?
Speaker 5: He's normally such a phony.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and of course the NFL would like that, right, Oh,
Speaker 2: he was authentic, or at least you think he was.
Speaker 2: You're gonna like that now if somebody said, man, he
Speaker 2: wasn't his authentic self and the NFL hated it. Okay,
Speaker 2: I get it. Felt like, hey, we're trying to get
Speaker 2: a story here, let's write about Drake. May say something
Speaker 2: nice about him. He was his authentic self. Who's the
Speaker 2: judge of that?
Speaker 6: Yes, marm And that's so weird because on your job interview,
Speaker 6: you're the fakest you can possibly be, no doubt, no doubt, like, oh,
Speaker 6: what's your you know, what's your worst quality? Man, I
Speaker 6: just care too much.
Speaker 7: It's almost like somebody close to him wants him to
Speaker 7: sound really great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he was his authentic self. Yeah.
Speaker 7: I mean I wonder who could be saying that to
Speaker 7: the media. Someone perhaps who wants him to go up
Speaker 7: in the draft.
Speaker 2: Uh huh dot dot.
Speaker 3: Would be great with these draftees answered completely honesty at
Speaker 3: the combat So which team you want to play for?
Speaker 2: Not the Bears? I'm sorry, Yeah, I said that.
Speaker 5: I love you know what.
Speaker 2: We liked him. He was his authentic self. So was
Speaker 2: Jason Kelsey segue.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 2: He decided that he was going to announce his retirement,
Speaker 2: and you know when I saw the setup for the
Speaker 2: press conference, and he comes in National TV ESPN, I
Speaker 2: think broke into programming, and he's got a sleeveless green
Speaker 2: shirt on like he's been lifting weights, and he's got
Speaker 2: a gold watch like. I can't imagine him leaving the
Speaker 2: house that morning and his wife going, wait, you're gonn
Speaker 2: announce your retirement looking like that. Oh, you know what,
Speaker 2: I'll put on a gold watch then, and he goes
Speaker 2: in there. It's as if he was just working out
Speaker 2: and he came right from the weight room, sat down
Speaker 2: and said this.
Speaker 9: And so this all brings us here to today where
Speaker 9: I announce that I am retiring, where I announced I'm
Speaker 9: retiring from the NFL after thirteen seasons with the Philadelphia Eagles,
Speaker 9: and today I must admit I am officially overrated, vastly overrated.
Speaker 2: Okay, he's a Hall of Famer, and I think he
Speaker 2: probably realized, let's jump now, as opposed to wait another year.
Speaker 2: Let's ride your brother's success, his popularity, your podcast, and
Speaker 2: you're going to have a lot of opportunities in the media.
Speaker 2: CBS may blow up their pregame show and bring in
Speaker 2: someone like that, put him in there with Nate Burlson.
Speaker 2: He's got this opportunity to be able to pick where
Speaker 2: he wants to go, and he can still do his
Speaker 2: podcast with his brother boy Travis. Better stayed with Taylor
Speaker 2: Swift because once that relationship, if it goes south, so
Speaker 2: does that podcast. I have to believe that a lot
Speaker 2: of Taylor Swift fans are listening to that podcast to
Speaker 2: make it the number one podcast. But he does, he
Speaker 2: does have value. It's rare when an offensive lineman, let
Speaker 2: alone a center, becomes a household name. He was in
Speaker 2: People Magazine's Sexiest Men Alive. His brother co hosted Saturday
Speaker 2: Night Live. He won a Super Bowl. He's going to
Speaker 2: be a Hall of Famer, and I think he realized,
Speaker 2: as you find with a lot of these guys. I'll
Speaker 2: go back to Nate Burlson volunteered to work the draft
Speaker 2: for ESPN ESPN Radio. He just wanted to see what
Speaker 2: it was like and maybe he was twenty four to
Speaker 2: twenty five years of age. Paulie and Seaton were there,
Speaker 2: and Nate paid his own way to the draft. You know,
Speaker 2: wasn't asking for any money. His teammate in Minnesota, Corey Chavis,
Speaker 2: was the All Pro and wanted to get into the media,
Speaker 2: and he was working for ESPN back then and getting paid.
Speaker 2: But Nate realized, we don't care who you are and
Speaker 2: what you've accomplished. You got to put in some time.
Speaker 2: And Nate was a good receiver, but he didn't. He
Speaker 2: wasn't a household name by any means. But you see
Speaker 2: him now and he's so charismatic and he's so good.
Speaker 2: He had a plan. It's like Michael Strahan, Strahan defensive lineman,
Speaker 2: you know, with a big gap in his teeth. But
Speaker 2: he was always available. Came from a small school, but
Speaker 2: you realized that he had a lot of personality there
Speaker 2: so much so, Hey, Fox's pregame show, No, let's take
Speaker 2: it up another notch or two. How about co hosting
Speaker 2: Good Morning America? Nate Burlson, Let me volunteer, Let me
Speaker 2: do a couple of things. Hey, now I'm on NFL today. CBS. Oh,
Speaker 2: they want me to host the CBS morning show. Co
Speaker 2: host that with Gail King. I mean, it doesn't happen
Speaker 2: that way, but those two saw the opportunity and they
Speaker 2: weren't household names, but they became household names. Jason Kelsey
Speaker 2: has that opportunity and it's better to go a year
Speaker 2: early than a year late. Tiki Barber did this. He
Speaker 2: tried to do this, and Tiki wasn't ready for it.
Speaker 2: Boomersiasin did this. He was ready for this. Eli Manning
Speaker 2: could have played another year. He decided that it was
Speaker 2: time to go. And it's tricky because you want to
Speaker 2: play your program to play. You don't want to walk away,
Speaker 2: but then you have to think about the rest of
Speaker 2: your life. Nate Burleson and Michael Strahan are set up
Speaker 2: the rest of their life because they left a year
Speaker 2: early or two years earlier. Because if you don't, somebody
Speaker 2: else takes that job, maybe they become a star. Maybe
Speaker 2: you never get that opportunity, and maybe you're going to
Speaker 2: see that as far as you know, a pregame show
Speaker 2: with Jason Kelcey, because you already have JJ Watt on there.
Speaker 2: So now you're getting a different perspective than just hey,
Speaker 2: let me have a bunch of quarterbacks up here or
Speaker 2: a coach. Now you're getting an offensive lineman, a defensive lineman.
Speaker 2: And then if you put Nate Burlson in there, you know,
Speaker 2: a former wide receiver. Now it gets a little bit
Speaker 2: more interesting. We tend to focus on the quarterback and
Speaker 2: everything they have to say. Sometimes that lineman tells you
Speaker 2: things that you know the nuances of the game, or
Speaker 2: a defensive lineman, and that's what makes it entertaining. But
Speaker 2: Jason Kelcey'll have his opportunity. He also had this to
Speaker 2: say at this press conference.
Speaker 9: Thank you Philadelphia, from the bottom of my heart, thank
Speaker 9: you for letting me represent this city and allowing me
Speaker 9: into your homes every Sunday. It has truly been a privilege.
Speaker 9: You have all been so good to me and my
Speaker 9: family growing up in Cleveland. I watched all of my
Speaker 9: favorite athletes leave the city. Hell, a whole team left
Speaker 9: the city. It has always been a goal of mine
Speaker 9: to play my whole career in one city, and I
Speaker 9: couldn't have dreamt a better one and a better fit
Speaker 9: if I tried.
Speaker 2: And guy, I'll never have to buy a beer in
Speaker 2: Philadelphia the rest of his life, that's for sure. And
Speaker 2: then he had this to say, maybe a little too
Speaker 2: much information, where he was talking about rumor of his
Speaker 2: teammate Nick Foles.
Speaker 9: I won't forget Nick Foles having the game of his
Speaker 9: life on the biggest stage possible and the biggest Dick
Speaker 9: on the team going up to Doug Peterson and asking
Speaker 9: for the Philly Special and Doug Peterson having the biggest
Speaker 9: balls in the stadium, say yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 2: Wait, you can't get emotional when you're talking about some
Speaker 2: guy's anatomy. I'm sorry, I guess you can, but you're
Speaker 2: doing jokes and then you start balling.
Speaker 8: No, you can't go. And the guy had the biggest
Speaker 8: you both passed down and then never forget how biggy was.
Speaker 5: I wish he could be like that.
Speaker 2: I mean me, well, it was called the Philly Special.
Speaker 2: Give me a second, Just give me a second, Philly.
Speaker 8: Cheese take on.
Speaker 2: It's good TV though, it was, but I'm going wait,
Speaker 2: he just got emotional talking about Nick Fole's anatomy.
Speaker 7: I mean, not to mention. I don't know how gutsy
Speaker 7: it was to make the call. Anyway, The Patriots had
Speaker 7: just tried to play like five minutes earlier. I don't
Speaker 7: know that it really took all that big, a gigantic
Speaker 7: twigg and berries to be like, hey, want to try
Speaker 7: the thing the Patriots just tried five minutes ago.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, let's go do that. Where did they ever
Speaker 2: come up with such a crazy idea. Yeah, well yes, uh, Marvin.
Speaker 6: Do you think it's the names of these plays that
Speaker 6: make them seem more original than they actually are?
Speaker 5: Like The Brotherly Shove is just really the QB Sneak?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I like the name.
Speaker 6: No, I know, but it makes it seem more original
Speaker 6: than what it actually is. The Philly Special, just like
Speaker 6: Seeton said, the Patriots literally tried the same play.
Speaker 2: So it's the names the weird part. It was called
Speaker 2: the Philly Special with the Patriots.
Speaker 8: That's the weird time, the most gigantic I've ever seen
Speaker 8: asking Bill for that.
Speaker 3: Yes, you need a nickname, Marv. Like the Miracle of
Speaker 3: the Meatlands, if it's a miracle of FedEx Field, it
Speaker 3: doesn't flow. You got you can't have sponsor, Like the
Speaker 3: Metal you canna have hype. Those those phrases.
Speaker 2: About a triple double, like a triple double became something,
Speaker 2: you know, because it's a triple double. Therefore you messed
Speaker 2: around and got a triple double. That meant you had.
Speaker 2: By the way, ice Cube keeping track of his stats
Speaker 2: on the playground, Come on, what Yeah.
Speaker 5: It's such a good day. No one had a better
Speaker 5: day than him.
Speaker 2: I know, but he said he messed around and had
Speaker 2: a triple doub like.
Speaker 5: He wasn't even trying. He was like the joker.
Speaker 6: Give me on the court and I trouble last week,
Speaker 6: messed around and got like, look I would even trying.
Speaker 2: I was just messing around around. Just imagine if we
Speaker 2: didn't come up with the name triple double, he would
Speaker 2: have had a hard time with that lyric.
Speaker 5: Yeah, give me on the court and I'm trouble. Last
Speaker 5: week I did really.
Speaker 4: Well, Yes, and the Lakers out. The Lakers now beat
Speaker 4: their super Sonics. That was pretty good, even though dates
Speaker 4: the song a little bit now that they no longer exist.
Speaker 4: But that's a all around good day.
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Speaker 2: We were just talking jelly beans. I don't know what
Speaker 2: the brand name of that jelly bean is, but that's bad,
Speaker 2: Like whatever happened to just traditional jelly beans?
Speaker 3: Now gourmet?
Speaker 2: Yeah, these are gourmet jelly beans. And they showed up
Speaker 2: in a box, no plastic bag around the jelly beans.
Speaker 2: They're just rattling around in this box. The big German
Speaker 2: ordered them and I'm going These things stunt, they stink,
Speaker 2: you know, they got all these different flavors. Just give
Speaker 2: me the traditional jelly bean. It's not a big deal.
Speaker 7: Ye. So in addition to hot dogs, snow cones, popcorn, yes,
Speaker 7: we now have jelly beans at Raised Delicatessen.
Speaker 2: Yes, the backroom guys, Ray Ray handles all of that,
Speaker 2: the bro Daga as we call it, the bro Daega popcorns,
Speaker 2: snow cones, hot dog machine. And now we got jellybeks.
Speaker 2: Oh body, Ryan Leaf doesn't eat like that. Maybe once did.
Speaker 2: The former number two overall pick in nineteen ninety eight
Speaker 2: and friend of the show and of course contributor to
Speaker 2: NFL Network. He joins us here in the man cave.
Speaker 2: You're going to fill in for me on Friday. By
Speaker 2: the way, thank you for the opportunity. Nervous.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, I don't know how many of your
Speaker 11: guest hosts show up, you know, and see how the
Speaker 11: sausage is made to make sure. I mean, I don't
Speaker 11: want to let you down.
Speaker 2: Oh you're you're already putting in for extra credit. Okay,
Speaker 2: I know what I'm doing here, all right, Oh you do? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I carry baggage with me you know, so I'd better
Speaker 2: be I'd better be good. I don't have like I
Speaker 2: don't get a second chance. Okay, you know to make
Speaker 2: a first impression because of the baggage I bring. So
Speaker 2: i'd better be good with my first opportunity or you know,
Speaker 2: you don't get s back. Yeah, but part of the
Speaker 2: reason we love you is the baggage you do bring though.
Speaker 11: Well, I know, but in most places that's fun to
Speaker 11: be a guest, but not a guest host, all right.
Speaker 11: The guest host part is like, oh, you better be
Speaker 11: good at it because that's my seat, the seat over here.
Speaker 11: I can just be moved out of the room while
Speaker 11: you do the other three hours, you know.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you about Russell Wilson because I brought
Speaker 2: this up last year. Can you play yourself out of
Speaker 2: the whole fame? And it feels like he has, but
Speaker 2: it feels like like there was a precipitous drop in
Speaker 2: confidence performance and the numbers weren't bad last year. But
Speaker 2: why does Sean Payton want to move on from Russell Wilson?
Speaker 11: I mean, I don't know if there's a bigger ego
Speaker 11: out there than Sean Payton for somebody who hasn't accomplished
Speaker 11: as much as like some other people too. He did
Speaker 11: not want him from day one, and for whatever he
Speaker 11: had to try to cover up to make it look
Speaker 11: like he did, he did not want him. He was
Speaker 11: stuck with him, and when he had the opportunity to
Speaker 11: finally get it done and get him out, it was
Speaker 11: going to happen. I thought Russell played pretty darn good
Speaker 11: last year.
Speaker 2: You guys say, but is this more about the coach
Speaker 2: maybe than it is the quarterbacks? We're missing? Really what
Speaker 2: we should be focusing on.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I don't think that the conversation should be around
Speaker 11: necessarily Russell Wilson's lack of production. He produced last year
Speaker 11: to a point where they were in playoff contention, and
Speaker 11: Denver decided, hey, we'd rather, you know, not be on
Speaker 11: the hook for all that money if you get ready
Speaker 11: to get hurt then to maybe push for the playoffs actually,
Speaker 11: And so that was that was disappointing to see as
Speaker 11: a fan of Russell Wilson's a fan of the Denver
Speaker 11: Broncos to see them kind of go away from that.
Speaker 11: And I don't know what they do. I heard Seaton
Speaker 11: talk about it. I mean, where do you start the
Speaker 11: clock with with with Sean Payton, because I mean, there
Speaker 11: in two years of dead cap hell, So how do
Speaker 11: you go about building a true roster that can compete
Speaker 11: in a division where a team seemingly feels like it
Speaker 11: has a choke hold on everybody right now? I you know.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 11: I'm glad that Russell's gone.
Speaker 2: I bet you he is happy too.
Speaker 11: I think the name you used right immediately, the Pittsburgh
Speaker 11: Steelers is an optimal spot for him, especially if they
Speaker 11: can get him for the league minimum. You don't quite
Speaker 11: know if other teams will want to do that because
Speaker 11: they have to negotiate with the Broncos and everything like that.
Speaker 11: You don't want to stick it to them necessarily if
Speaker 11: you are going and trying to do some business with
Speaker 11: them in the next year or two or things like that.
Speaker 2: Oh so you think that these teams may take a
Speaker 2: little bit of that financial heat away from the Broncos.
Speaker 11: I do because of the personal interactions between teams when
Speaker 11: they go about that business.
Speaker 5: If you walk into it.
Speaker 11: I think the Haslam situation where they gave that money
Speaker 11: to Deshaun Watson is going to do them detrimentally in future.
Speaker 11: You know, interactions within teams because they were like, you've
Speaker 11: outscrewed us on this, and we're not going to let
Speaker 11: that happen. We're going to hold you accountable for it
Speaker 11: for some time. So yeah, I don't think necessarily it's
Speaker 11: just a foregone conclusion that he walks in and it's
Speaker 11: a league minimum and the Broncos are on the hold
Speaker 11: for all that extra money.
Speaker 2: Okay, if you're Russell Wilson, where do you want to go?
Speaker 11: Well, I liked your point about I want to go
Speaker 11: to a place where I think I can win, And
Speaker 11: clearly Pittsburgh's a place where you can win because Mike
Speaker 11: Tomlin has showcase that every single year he's been there.
Speaker 11: What they've been missing since Ben Roethlisberger is competent quarterback play.
Speaker 11: Mason Rudolph, even at the end of the year was
Speaker 11: pretty darn good. But when you got into the playoffs.
Speaker 11: I was on the sideline calling that game for Westwood
Speaker 11: One and I saw it. Josh Allen was just this
Speaker 11: much better than him in that game at high Mark Stadium.
Speaker 11: So Russell could bring that to the table if they
Speaker 11: are able to keep you know, t J. Watt healthy.
Speaker 11: Who's the most dynamic defensive player in the league. I
Speaker 11: think if he stays healthy, a good quarterback play where
Speaker 11: you don't turn it over and you get some big
Speaker 11: plays down I think that could be a good spot
Speaker 11: for Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just wonder he's gonna have a chip on your shoulder.
Speaker 2: You're gonna want to.
Speaker 11: Go to it to be hard. Yeah, it's gonna be
Speaker 11: hard wherever he goes. Why this is hard to explain
Speaker 11: to people, but when quarterbacks are drafted most likely in
Speaker 11: the top ten a second stop, regardless of geographic change,
Speaker 11: it's incredibly difficult to be successful somewhere else. And Russell
Speaker 11: isn't that guy. But what Russell was able to accomplish
Speaker 11: turned him into essentially a franchise quarterback, and him going
Speaker 11: to another place has been rather difficult, and it has
Speaker 11: been for everybody else. You see Jim Plunkett as a
Speaker 11: number one overall pick able to go from the Patriots
Speaker 11: to the Raiders and have success. Peyton Manning, of course,
Speaker 11: still unknown for Aaron Rodgers. Brett Favre was able to
Speaker 11: have some in Minnesota.
Speaker 2: It's rarity.
Speaker 11: It's a real rarity for somebody to have a Super
Speaker 11: Bowl trophy in there trophy case then go and be
Speaker 11: successful somewhere else. And now we're getting in the later
Speaker 11: stages of his career. I'd love to see the resurgence.
Speaker 11: I love Russell Wilson as a person. I think what
Speaker 11: he's been able to accomplish. I think sometimes as you
Speaker 11: and I have talked about the neural cognitive way he
Speaker 11: went about things with Trevor Moad and the neutral thinking
Speaker 11: has made him come across sometimes almost like a simulation.
Speaker 11: But that was managed, that was the way it was
Speaker 11: supposed to be. And it's really difficult to maybe kind
Speaker 11: of manage that in the locker room when you don't
Speaker 11: have the person that's helping you filtrate that they're available
Speaker 11: to you.
Speaker 2: But is this more mental? Yeah, physical, Oh it is.
Speaker 11: I think it's more of a mental thing, I think.
Speaker 2: And you were talking about Trevor Moad, his spiritual advisor.
Speaker 11: Yeah, he was more of a Yeah, it was a
Speaker 11: mind coach that they met at IMG and and Trevor
Speaker 11: was also someone that helped me when I got out
Speaker 11: of prison, Like we started working on that mindset and
Speaker 11: it's effected me greatly. I mean, look at where I
Speaker 11: am ten years from now, I mean ten years ago today,
Speaker 11: I was sitting in a prison cell, and now.
Speaker 2: You're just how does he help you mentally? You're physically
Speaker 2: out of a prison cell. Was it you couldn't get
Speaker 2: mentally out of a prison cell?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 11: I think for a little while, I was, oh, listen
Speaker 11: to this. The day I woke up after my first
Speaker 11: day out of prison, my hometown newspaper ran in a
Speaker 11: cartoon that said, lock up your medicine cabinets, Ryan leafs
Speaker 11: out my hometown newspaper, and my immediate reaction in that
Speaker 11: moment was like, like, where's the hope? Like this is
Speaker 11: what it's going to be for the rest of my life?
Speaker 2: How am I?
Speaker 11: How am I ever supposed to get past this? I
Speaker 11: might as well just you know, go back to muscle
Speaker 11: memory and feed that that numbing feeling. I mean, that's
Speaker 11: that was the moment of thought, and working with Trevor
Speaker 11: was around, Hey, no, it's we're not up, We're not down.
Speaker 11: WHI is just here, there's no negative, negative mindset moving forward.
Speaker 11: And from that point and I have I was nowhere
Speaker 11: near as good as Russell was with it. I would
Speaker 11: not allow negative information to creep in, and it's really
Speaker 11: it really pushed me forward I had a choice every
Speaker 11: morning to wake up in a positive and healthy mood.
Speaker 11: That was my choice.
Speaker 2: And Russe who's lost his you know, spiritual coach Trevor
Speaker 2: pat I.
Speaker 11: Do think that that played a huge impact, and I've
Speaker 11: been one of the most on my soapbox talking about it.
Speaker 11: Of course, you got to go out and perform, and
Speaker 11: I thought he did last year. I thought he was
Speaker 11: very good in the red zone. The touchdown pass against
Speaker 11: Buffalo to the corner to Courtland Sutton was one of
Speaker 11: the best throws I've ever seen from a quarterback, and
Speaker 11: I thought he was getting better.
Speaker 2: And I just does Sean just not like I mean,
Speaker 2: does it come down to, I just don't like you.
Speaker 11: You love your quarterback if you're an offensive play card caller,
Speaker 11: and he just did not like the way he went
Speaker 11: about his business. You talked about the Detroit game over
Speaker 11: Thanksgiving and just the around Christmas or someone was and
Speaker 11: just the berating of him on on on what to
Speaker 11: do down there.
Speaker 2: Well, he just beat the Chiefs and then they said, hey,
Speaker 2: we want you to kind of help us with your
Speaker 2: contract here.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 11: I just it wasn't a match made in Heaven. What
Speaker 11: they've given up in terms of for for Russell Wilson.
Speaker 11: You got to look at what they've given up for
Speaker 11: for Sean Payton. You know, they gave up the draft pick,
Speaker 11: they have a second round draft pick for him, They're
Speaker 11: paying him a ton of money. Uh heuh goes and
Speaker 11: just kind of poopoos on the quarterback and trade that
Speaker 11: his general manager made for before he got there two
Speaker 11: years previous.
Speaker 5: It is, it.
Speaker 11: Doesn't seem like there is anything positive coming out of
Speaker 11: Denver right now, and that includes the Sean Payton scenario
Speaker 11: because guess what, Russell Wilson's gone. So this honeymoon's going
Speaker 11: to be short lived if things start spiraling pretty quickly
Speaker 11: like they have with Sean Payton. There hasn't been a
Speaker 11: positive with Sean Payton since he got there, So let's
Speaker 11: not act like, oh now it's gonna change.
Speaker 5: There hasn't.
Speaker 11: There's no evidence that points to anything positive happened in
Speaker 11: Denver with Sean Payton to this point.
Speaker 2: Yet, how does their GM keep his job?
Speaker 11: That was you guys made about the resume, I mean,
Speaker 11: and I thought like, how how do you hand a resume?
Speaker 2: And like that?
Speaker 5: And go.
Speaker 11: Huh, Nathaniel Hackett that that right there there's a fireable
Speaker 11: offence the Russell Wilson trade for amount you gave up. Realistically,
Speaker 11: you could look at Sean Payton what you gave up
Speaker 11: to get him. Why give up a draft pick for
Speaker 11: a coach and then and then and then take on
Speaker 11: all that money and then he'd be so bad. I'd yeah,
Speaker 11: it's very interesting. It's it fits in line with what
Speaker 11: maybe because the dysfunction around ownership it was. It was
Speaker 11: so up and down on who who's gonna own it,
Speaker 11: who doesn't, And they've kind of got lost in the
Speaker 11: mix a little bit, and maybe now there's a little
Speaker 11: bit more of a focal point.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Ryan Lee, former number two overall pick nineteen ninety eight draft,
Speaker 2: joining us here in studio. If the Bears take Caleb
Speaker 2: Williams dot dot dot finish that.
Speaker 11: Uh, if they take him, I would be you better
Speaker 11: be under the understanding that that that you're gonna sit
Speaker 11: him this.
Speaker 5: Year, and that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 2: So why would you sit him?
Speaker 12: Well?
Speaker 11: Because seventy five percent of what he made him so
Speaker 11: great in college is not transferable to the NFL. He's
Speaker 11: not going to be able to do that. He can't
Speaker 11: do what he did in college seventy five percent of
Speaker 11: the time and be successful to the NFL level. He
Speaker 11: can do the twenty five percent part at the NFL level,
Speaker 11: but he needs some time. He needs to get under center.
Speaker 11: He needs to understand and how to throw on time
Speaker 11: on platform from the pocket. What he can do off
Speaker 11: platform is what makes him so exciting because he may
Speaker 11: be one of the most talented quarterbacks in this year's
Speaker 11: draft and many in the past two year's draft, but
Speaker 11: he is a guy that I don't think he can
Speaker 11: be a starter on day one, and I think they
Speaker 11: wanted to do that with Justin Fields. But like any
Speaker 11: team that drafts any quarterback in the top five, you're
Speaker 11: expected to play immediately, and unfortunately, I don't think he's
Speaker 11: a starting quarterback this year. I think the two guys
Speaker 11: that I would put some faith in to be a
Speaker 11: starting quarterback this year would be probably Jaden Daniels and
Speaker 11: Michael Pennix Junior. Those are the two guys I could
Speaker 11: see being a first round pick that could start this season.
Speaker 5: Drake No.
Speaker 11: I got Drake may as the second round guy. I
Speaker 11: see him in very same mold as will le Us,
Speaker 11: which clearly worked out well for Will none of the
Speaker 11: anchor he had to carry for me in a first
Speaker 11: round pick, got the opportunity to sit, and when he
Speaker 11: took the opportunity, made the most of it. He's now
Speaker 11: their franchise quarterback. I see him very similar. Mold those two.
Speaker 11: You love Penix. I do love Michael Pennix Jr. It's
Speaker 11: tough for me to say, being a Washington guy in
Speaker 11: Washington State. So I just think he is the most
Speaker 11: accurate down the field passer I've seen come out of college.
Speaker 11: And I can't tell you when, but you think he
Speaker 11: could start? Yeah, I think he could be a starting
Speaker 11: quarterback in depending on what scheme he gets in it.
Speaker 11: And the good thing for him is not a lot
Speaker 11: of people have given him a ton of credence. I
Speaker 11: think he may have moved the needle little bit at
Speaker 11: the combine because he was special. He has the strongest
Speaker 11: arm of all the quarterbacks in the field this year.
Speaker 11: He's the most accurate down the field. He is a winner.
Speaker 11: The thing that was weighing him down was the medicals.
Speaker 11: People kept going back to that two catastrophic injuries that
Speaker 11: ended season in Indiana. Well, he passed the medicals with
Speaker 11: Flying Colors. I didn't get injured during college, yet I
Speaker 11: got injured immediately in my second year in the NFL.
Speaker 11: You have no idea how that's going to play out.
Speaker 11: If you're gonna start registering injury being injury prone, you're
Speaker 11: just you're gonna go crazy thinking about all that stuff. So, yeah,
Speaker 11: he's my number one guy. I've been on him for
Speaker 11: two years now and I haven't moved off my spot
Speaker 11: that the National Championship is going to be something that
Speaker 11: that's going to weigh him down a little bit because
Speaker 11: of how good the defense was.
Speaker 2: Well under pressure, he didn't do well at all.
Speaker 11: Oh no, but you I don't know if there's a
Speaker 11: more of a counter or polarizing difference of a National
Speaker 11: semi final game to how good he was to how
Speaker 11: bad he was in the National Championship, And that's that's
Speaker 11: could be a little bit concerning it. Just it was
Speaker 11: the worst possible to time for him to have his
Speaker 11: worst game as a.
Speaker 2: As a but that that was an elite defense, that
Speaker 2: was a spectacular defense. And then you got JJ McCarthy's
Speaker 2: I'm fixated on JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 11: I just told my I think is the most fascinating
Speaker 11: part of it.
Speaker 2: I don't get it.
Speaker 11: I get why people would think he could be good.
Speaker 11: He's a five star kid out of out of Illinois,
Speaker 11: he goes to Michigan. He's lost three games his entire
Speaker 11: career in high school. In college, he's a winner. But
Speaker 11: how can a guy who's superman for you in a game,
Speaker 11: let's say against Penn State where Jim Harbaugh doesn't or
Speaker 11: he's out and suspended, they don't ask him to throw
Speaker 11: the ball once in the second half. I know he
Speaker 11: was banged up a little bit, but I mean, I
Speaker 11: don't care that there's something that throws me off a
Speaker 11: little bit with that that I'd be like, well, do
Speaker 11: we venture to risk a first round draft pick on
Speaker 11: a guy that can be literally put on the shelf
Speaker 11: for a half against one of your biggest rivals in
Speaker 11: conference play? So I have him as the second round guy. Again,
Speaker 11: we all know that they're not thirty two. Necessarily first
Speaker 11: round grades to go around. The quarterbacks are always given more.
Speaker 11: I think Pennic Junior could easily be a guy that
Speaker 11: we see Baltimore. What Baltimore did a few years back
Speaker 11: with mar Jackson, jumped back up into the first round,
Speaker 11: got a guy with a fifth year option. I think
Speaker 11: Penix could be guy late in the first round. What
Speaker 11: don't surprised me at JJ McCarthy goes earlier than that.
Speaker 11: I don't know if it's necessarily warranted, but again, if
Speaker 11: you fall in love with somebody, they'll go do it.
Speaker 2: He's Ryan Leeve. He'll be in this chair coming up
Speaker 2: on Friday. Good to see you, buddy, Thank you too.
Speaker 2: We'll take a break. Phone calls coming up back after this.
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Speaker 2: During the commercial breaks. On radio, you'll get actual commercials.
Speaker 2: But if you're watching on Peacock a lot of times
Speaker 2: the backroom guy Rob will put together video clips from
Speaker 2: previous shows. Eleven years ago, Keanu Reeves came into the
Speaker 2: New York studio. I had never met him before. He
Speaker 2: didn't come in with an entourage. He was outside smoking
Speaker 2: cigarettes before he was going to do his interview, and
Speaker 2: then then came in and could not have been nicer.
Speaker 2: There was no ego at all. Had fun with everything
Speaker 2: we talked about. We talked about point break and some
Speaker 2: of the famous lines in there, but talk about somebody
Speaker 2: who could have come in with an ego and entourage
Speaker 2: and he didn't. And he looked like a million bucks.
Speaker 2: I think he might have been fifty, maybe forty five fifty,
Speaker 2: It looked like he was thirty. Just came in in
Speaker 2: a million bucks. Killed it, killed it everybody. When he left,
Speaker 2: everybody was like, we were going, what was that?
Speaker 9: Like?
Speaker 2: Whoa to coin? You know, use one of his words, yes, Ton,
Speaker 2: And he's known.
Speaker 5: From at least from whatever.
Speaker 4: He's super generous with his time and money to you know, staffers.
Speaker 5: From all the way.
Speaker 2: Well, he didn't have us any money.
Speaker 5: He did not give us any money.
Speaker 4: But on movie sets you hear stories about different production
Speaker 4: assistant and people he goes out of his way or
Speaker 4: acknowledge them and try to help them financially.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was wonderful. I mean, there's a few of
Speaker 2: those guests that where when Michael Douglas came in, Billy,
Speaker 2: Bob Thornton and you're just going, this a pretty good job,
Speaker 2: this pretty good gig. Now when it goes well. Kevin
Speaker 2: Costner when he came in, although Paulie said something and
Speaker 2: Kevin misinterpreted, and then Kevin Costner yelled at Paulie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Paulin, but you said that Keanu Reeves had no entrage.
Speaker 3: You were being literal. You know, we have mid level
Speaker 3: celebrities and they have two or three people with them
Speaker 3: in a handlers and big celebrities like you know.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: And I think the Billy Bob Thornton booking was interesting
Speaker 3: because somehow he said yes to our request and we
Speaker 3: were shocked because at the time he had like had
Speaker 3: an incident in Canada with a radio host. It was
Speaker 3: like three months afterwards, and we had him in. We're
Speaker 3: all like, this guy's gonna be tough. What are we
Speaker 3: getting into? It was the opposite.
Speaker 2: He was great, yep, and uh, you know, big baseball fan,
Speaker 2: but you know, he just kind of sent down that
Speaker 2: was it, just chill. Let me see Cody in Texas. Hey, Cody,
Speaker 2: thank you for holding today.
Speaker 12: Hey Dan got a hot take and I wanted your
Speaker 12: opinion on it. What about Russell Wilson to Dallas solves
Speaker 12: the salary cap issue?
Speaker 5: MM?
Speaker 2: So you're gonna let Dak Prescott go.
Speaker 12: I mean, you know he's not getting it done in
Speaker 12: Dallas dead and you know he wants sixty million a year.
Speaker 12: That's I mean, you got Seed and Raymond. Michael Parsons DESN.
Speaker 2: ESPN Programming just thanked you for that. I'm sure they're
Speaker 2: going to run with that today. Okay, how do we
Speaker 2: talk about Russell and the Cowboy? Yes, he'll replace Dak Prescott,
Speaker 2: Cody More get up. Cody will give you credit if
Speaker 2: Greenee or stephen A picked that up.
Speaker 5: Today.
Speaker 3: Cowboys have a new long stamper and Lebron's retiring god
Speaker 3: Water cut up.
Speaker 2: Marvin, Marvin and Hartford. Hey, Mary, good morning about heartbeat.
Speaker 13: I was just touching base. I had a kind of
Speaker 13: a thing I saw last night. I saw that they
Speaker 13: prevented or they changed the rules, so Wilt Chamberlain dunk
Speaker 13: from the free throw line. Yeah, so I thought that's
Speaker 13: an amazing stat Do you think if they moved the
Speaker 13: three point line back that would affect Steph Curry's legacy
Speaker 13: in the long run.
Speaker 2: Meaning.
Speaker 13: So they had to change rules or add rules for
Speaker 13: Wilf's dominance. And now you've got the NBA, everybody's just
Speaker 13: chucking threes up all the time. I think that would
Speaker 13: be something that possibly appropriate that they could do to
Speaker 13: change the game up a little bit.
Speaker 2: Well, Steph's still going to be able to shoot from
Speaker 2: that range. And keep in mind they took away the
Speaker 2: dunk because of Leuel Sindor when he was in college.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're going to change the guys
Speaker 2: who are still going to shoot threes. I think at
Speaker 2: some point, if you're going to expand the three point line,
Speaker 2: you have to expand the court because if you will,
Speaker 2: if you're in the corner. I think there's certain guys,
Speaker 2: depending on the size of their feet, they can't stand
Speaker 2: in bounds and shoot a three. Kevin Durant would probably
Speaker 2: probably have a hard time doing that. You would have
Speaker 2: to widen the floor at some point. Yeah, pullt and
Speaker 2: you think you'd actually go the opposite.
Speaker 3: If you want to change the NBA, you get rid
Speaker 3: of the three point line and you devalue the shot
Speaker 3: and now the court's wide open again.
Speaker 2: Andrew in Washington, Hi, Andrew, what's on your mind?
Speaker 14: Good morning, Dan? Dan bringing my authentic self at six. So, Dan,
Speaker 14: I really think JJ McCarthy is this year's draft like
Speaker 14: smoke screen. Everybody's going to talk about him. We're all
Speaker 14: wondering where he's going to go. Everybody loves him. Well,
Speaker 14: when you just look at the raw talent in the
Speaker 14: stats from last year against the other five top prospects,
Speaker 14: he had the least amount of TV's thrown at twenty
Speaker 14: two and he also didn't even have a TD thrown
Speaker 14: in five games last year. So I really think he'll
Speaker 14: probably drop down and be this year's Will Levis.
Speaker 2: Well, Will levi Is still played. Showed glimpses there. I mean,
Speaker 2: Will Levis looks like a quarterback. JJ McCarthy looks like
Speaker 2: an actor who's going to play a quarterback. He's sort
Speaker 2: of this year's version of Zach Wilson, just from you know,
Speaker 2: the looks. You know he'd be on one Tree Hill
Speaker 2: and maybe he's going to be an elite quarterback. Now
Speaker 2: it's in the eye of the beholder. Final hour on
Speaker 2: the way on this Tuesday. We'll check in with the Broncos.
Speaker 2: Now what do they do at the quarterbacking position? More
Speaker 2: phone calls as well. Always great to hear from you,
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