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Speaker 1: It's Texans All Access. Mark Vanderman and John Harris with you.

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Speaker 1: And if only we had somebody who could comment with

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Speaker 1: That night, the NFL Honors Show will disclose the Hall

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Speaker 1: against a dolphin, Week four, two thousand and eight. A

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Speaker 1: play that will never forget. And you could just hear

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Speaker 1: to my voice this is just desperation, Tiers, and we're

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Speaker 1: about to go on four oh and far that was

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Speaker 1: the Hurricane Ike season, and I just felt like he

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Speaker 1: just felt it. It was just not gonna happen that day.

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Speaker 1: And here the last gasp and that ball was actually

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Speaker 1: it should have been a pick. Let's be honest by

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Speaker 1: Ramiyah Bell Andrey Johnson went over the top, Thank goodness,

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Speaker 1: over the back is not called in the NFL if

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Speaker 1: your receiver is going over the top of a defensive

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Speaker 1: back to try to get a reception, because that's what happened,

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Speaker 1: and he just ripped it away from him. First down,

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Speaker 1: Chain's move, Let's go downfield Shop eventually runs it in

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Speaker 1: Texans win their first of the year, and it was

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Speaker 1: it was just delightful. Johnny. That was one of the

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Speaker 1: many big catches by Andrey Johnson. You ready to play

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Speaker 1: some Andrey Johnson, who's better? Yeah? I do. I'll follow

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Speaker 1: up that real fasts story. Mark. I was. I was

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Speaker 1: covering that game for a different radio station. I had

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Speaker 1: my bag on my shoulder, I was walking out. I'd

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Speaker 1: seen enough. I'm like it's owing for It's it's done.

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Speaker 1: And I happened to run it to a friend of

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Speaker 1: one of the the kind of viewpoints, kind of up

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Speaker 1: where the food is. Now we're kind of looking down

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Speaker 1: and we kind of were chatting, and then it was like,

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Speaker 1: h you know, it's fourth Dallas. Just watch this play

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Speaker 1: and then I'll go. And he makes that catch and

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Speaker 1: I couldn't leave. I was like, I gotta see how

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Speaker 1: this is. I mean, you, Andre Johnson can't make that

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Speaker 1: catch and they not win and then Shop runs in

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Speaker 1: a draw and it would really ended up being a

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Speaker 1: great day, but I was out of there. I was out.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I cannot watch the rest of this, so upset.

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Speaker 1: And then he made that catch. It was just it

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Speaker 1: was just incredible to watch that man go to work, Mark,

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Speaker 1: and you had the opportunity to do it at both

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Speaker 1: in college in the NFL. You were very very lucky

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Speaker 1: to be able to call his games, very lucky, indeed,

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Speaker 1: and every play as a Texan and almost every play

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Speaker 1: in college that last season I didn't do and that's

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Speaker 1: why they didn't win the championship. Now I'm just kidding,

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Speaker 1: but they wanted, they want it, and I left and

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Speaker 1: they haven't done anything since. Now they got to the

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Speaker 1: national championship against Ohio State the following year. I was

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Speaker 1: watching that one at a local establishment and they had

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Speaker 1: that weird bad should I say bad? Say it? They

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Speaker 1: got robbed. They got robbed. The game over, Glenn Spencer

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Speaker 1: It was really ridiculous. Anyway, all right, let's play some

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Speaker 1: who's better here? Because all right, we visited with the

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Speaker 1: general in the first segment, John McClain, Hall of Fame voter.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna present for Andrey Johnson, And thank goodness, this

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Speaker 1: is happening right now. This is gonna be great. I

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Speaker 1: who knows. I'll tell you. I mean, he's gonna give

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Speaker 1: Are you with me before we get into this, are

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Speaker 1: you with me that the class? Look, everybody's a Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame caliber player. I get it, but there's nobody

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Speaker 1: that really jumps out where. You know, you could pick

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Speaker 1: not gonna freak out. Maybe that somebody got in right

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Speaker 1: but you're not gonna totally freak out because the playing

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Speaker 1: field appears to be relatively even. Am I wrong about that?

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Speaker 1: What do you think? I'm right with you. I think

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Speaker 1: this class has no slam dunks. One of the things

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Speaker 1: I always find fascinating is afterwards somebody posts how long

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Speaker 1: the committee talks about particular players and Peyton Manning. I

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Speaker 1: guess Mike Chappell is on the committee, I believe, and

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Speaker 1: he's covered the cults for so long up there in Anneapolis,

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Speaker 1: and he stood up and he said, I'm presenting for

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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning and then he sat back down. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning that's going in. And there have been others

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Speaker 1: obviously that have taken a lot longer to discuss. I

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Speaker 1: would imagine these are gonna be some pretty long meetings

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Speaker 1: because you don't have you don't have a slam dunk candidate.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if there's anything that you would

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Speaker 1: DeMarcus where okay, you can probably sit out because he's

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Speaker 1: gonna make I don't know, I don't know that I

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Speaker 1: see any of them that are slam dunks. And I

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Speaker 1: think that it gives Andrea a great great case. I've

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Speaker 1: always felt that. I thought one omission Mark Steve Smith

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Speaker 1: didn't make it. He was up last year, but he

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Speaker 1: wasn't up this year. That was odd to me. I

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Speaker 1: thought Steve Smith should have been in that committee. I

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Speaker 1: think Steve Smith should go in the Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: before some of the other receivers that were mentioned and

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Speaker 1: there with Andre I'm with you. I'm with you. And look,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to pick on Reggie Wayne. I like Reggie.

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Speaker 1: I really do like Reggie. We used to interview Reggie,

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Speaker 1: you know, back at the U and everything to win

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Speaker 1: But he might be the first to admit it. I

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Speaker 1: used to really prop him up because I would say, look,

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Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison's doing all this, but there's a guy on

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Speaker 1: the other side that's drawing a lot of attention too,

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Speaker 1: and that's helping out Harrison. Not to take away from

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Speaker 1: Harrison's greatness, but he had Harrison on one side, Reggie

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Speaker 1: Wayne on the other. You're throwing a Dallas Clark. After

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Speaker 1: the ball well relatively, and you've got Peyton Manning pulled

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Speaker 1: the trigger. I mean, it's a pretty decent group of

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Speaker 1: people there, so that's something. But I was gonna say,

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Speaker 1: who's better Andre Johnson or Tory Holt plus or in

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Speaker 1: addition to Reggie Wayne. I have always thought I have

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Speaker 1: always thought that Andre Johnson before any of those other guys.

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Speaker 1: I've always thought that. And I don't I don't want

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Speaker 1: to take away from guys that were the beneficiaries of

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Speaker 1: playing with some really great players. I really, I really don't.

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Speaker 1: But taking a guy like take Jerry Rice for instance,

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Speaker 1: even though he played with Joe Montana, Jerry Rice was

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Speaker 1: the guy you planned to stop every single moment at

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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers are on the field when you

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Speaker 1: face the Colts, when you faced the Rams, and I

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Speaker 1: know they had a lot of different weapons, but Tory

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Speaker 1: Holt was part of that crew. He didn't lead that.

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Speaker 1: Marshall Fulk was the guy you were scared of. Marvin

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Speaker 1: Harrison was the guy that you were scared of. And

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Speaker 1: from that perspective, when you face the Texans, yeah, they

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Speaker 1: didn't have the cast of characters at Tory Holt and

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Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison had around them. You were terrified of Andre Johnson.

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Speaker 1: You were terrified even in eleven twelve when other guys

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Speaker 1: start stepping up, you know, Walter and then Hop came

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Speaker 1: in in thirteen, you still were scared of Andre Johnson,

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Speaker 1: still scared of him. So to me, the deciding point. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: with all the great numbers. General threw out some great

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Speaker 1: numbers earlier. But to me, Andre Johnson has head shoulders

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Speaker 1: above those two for sure. Now if you put him

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Speaker 1: in competition with Steve Smith, now I'm like, oh boy,

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Speaker 1: because Smith Smith set it off. I mean Smith every

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Speaker 1: worried about Steve Smith every time. If I'm facing him,

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Speaker 1: his defense coordinator, I put Smith in Andre up there,

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Speaker 1: those would be the two receivers I would have up

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Speaker 1: there before anybody else at this point. Okay, all right,

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Speaker 1: let's keep on with who's better. Let's go to Sunday's game. Now,

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Speaker 1: the injury report is out. Jimmy Garoppolo did not practice

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Speaker 1: again today. That's a big development for the Texans, by

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Speaker 1: the way. Jimmy Morland out with an illness, Anthony U

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Speaker 1: on the report yesterday that was limited. Any changes there,

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Speaker 1: I think a J. Moore limited with an illness and

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Speaker 1: the rest of the guy's practice. So that's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: I mean there were some limited guys here, but I'm

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Speaker 1: not freaking out about anybody in particular. Okay, but you

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Speaker 1: tell me who's better right now for the Niners. For

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Speaker 1: the Niners, Jimmy Garoppolo or Trey Lance this coming Sunday,

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Speaker 1: they need this one against the Texans. From their perspective,

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Speaker 1: who's better? I think. Let me make sure I say

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Speaker 1: this properly. Trey Lance getting these last couple games and

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Speaker 1: going into the playoffs, we'll do more for the forty

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Speaker 1: nine ers than Jimmy Garoppolo leading that team into the playoffs. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Trey Lance Dance is going to

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Speaker 1: be the guy that leads him to a championship this year.

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Speaker 1: But I think with Trey Lance getting reps in two

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Speaker 1: big games down the stretch and getting reps in a

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Speaker 1: is gonna make the twenty twenty two nine Ers and beyond.

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Speaker 1: I think that much better. I think Garoppolo the ceiling.

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Speaker 1: I think he's at the ceiling. If he gets in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, okay, great, but you know you're going to

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Speaker 1: Trey Lance at some point. So if you get Trey

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Speaker 1: Lance to get in the playoffs and he's able to

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Speaker 1: have a game, two, three, how many ever games of

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, I think is going to be off

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Speaker 1: the charts. Important for the Niners. So that's a team

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Speaker 1: with the talent that can't go win it all with Lance.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that happens this year, but I think

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Speaker 1: it's important that Lance gets those playoffs reps. And you know,

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Speaker 1: you think back to the Niners the decision that they

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Speaker 1: the trigger and goes to Colin Kaepernick because he realized

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Speaker 1: something more than Alex Smith does. I think that's the

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Speaker 1: same thing with Trey Lance. It may not be perfect,

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Speaker 1: and Lance might turn the ball over to different things,

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Speaker 1: but he's dynamic with the ball in his hands. He

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Speaker 1: can throw the deep ball, and his ceiling is that

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Speaker 1: much higher. I think it's important for the forty nine

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Speaker 1: ers sake to go with Lance, Let him play these

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Speaker 1: last couple of games, see if they get into playoffs,

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Speaker 1: and then let him have those playoff reps. I think

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Speaker 1: it's that much more important for their organization. Boy, what

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Speaker 1: a difference a couple of wins make right heading into

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Speaker 1: this thing. And the Texans playing a little bit better

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Speaker 1: now will a lot better really and see what they

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Speaker 1: can cook up, and all the pressure on the forty

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Speaker 1: nine ers still And it's a great threesome to end

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Speaker 1: the season with when you look at the Chargers Niners

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Speaker 1: in Tennessee, because they all have playoffs on the line

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Speaker 1: and you have a chance to really put a dent

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Speaker 1: in their plans. I love it. Oh man, you know

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Speaker 1: I just hit me. If that just hit me Mark, Wow,

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Speaker 1: what if you knocked the Chargers out of the playoffs?

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Speaker 1: What if you knocked the Niners out of the playoffs?

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Speaker 1: And then the Titans? I mean, obviously the Titans play

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins this year. And by the way, they're playing

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Speaker 1: a bowl game in the Titans stadium tonight, So what's

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Speaker 1: tonight Thursday? They gotta turn around to play a game

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Speaker 1: at noon on Sunday. This field is getting chopped up.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be bad, bad, bad in Tennessee app for

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Speaker 1: this game. This field is knock gonna it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a horrible footing surface on Sunday. So it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: interesting to watch Titans Dolphins because Dolphins have playoffs on line.

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Speaker 1: But man, how Austin would it be to knock the

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Speaker 1: Chargers out of playoffs? The forty nine Ers out of

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. And I know other games would have cost

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Speaker 1: them too, But at this point in the season, those

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Speaker 1: teams are chocking up wins. Oh, we're gonna beat the Texas,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna beat them. Well, we got one of you,

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Speaker 1: We got the Chargers. Now let's go for number two

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Speaker 1: this week, get against the Niners. Hey, the Jags might

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Speaker 1: have been saying that too. All right, coming up, Andre

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Speaker 1: a couple of his iconic catches. We'll listen to those

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Speaker 1: comments and set you up for the forty nine Ers

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Speaker 1: an hour number two of this program tonight. Here it's

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Speaker 1: My formation seam wants to throw steps left throws to

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Speaker 1: the end zone. Caught by Andre Johnson at the five

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Speaker 1: and back pedals his way in. Andre Johnson got the

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Speaker 1: but would not be denied. Okay, that was at Arizona

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Speaker 1: I think some people hit him along the way when

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Speaker 1: I can't, you know. So, I mean we got the

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Speaker 1: job done there, but I really like would have liked

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Speaker 1: to redo that one. But it was really trump moment.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he just willed his way into the end

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Speaker 1: zone and that might be Look the all time, Andre

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Speaker 1: Johnson lay many people's minds is beating up court Finnegan, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean yes, a lot of people think that's the

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Speaker 1: that's the moment, right, And those people not just those

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Speaker 1: people in Houston too, it was a lot more people

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Speaker 1: around the nation that liked to seeing that. That was awesome. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think though that on the field, that Arizona play

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Speaker 1: is as good as any he ever made. And the

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Speaker 1: fourth and ten against Washington, you'll hear that next down

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Speaker 1: we're gonna roll out Andrey Johnson highlights out of every

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Speaker 1: break here. The fourth and ten at Washington is my

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Speaker 1: favorite because it tied a game. And look, I know

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Speaker 1: that wasn't a great season eventually, but it was week

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Speaker 1: two and you went too and all and that was

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Speaker 1: a really cool way to start the season. And it

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Speaker 1: was fourth and ten and Shab just said go get

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Speaker 1: it and he did and it was awesome. So I

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Speaker 1: don't know how you feel about it. I did tell

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Speaker 1: straight on that play and we got it somewhere in

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Speaker 1: the vault. I don't know where it is, but we

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Speaker 1: we did a film room, I think, on that play.

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Speaker 1: And it's interesting because we talked to Andre the day

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Speaker 1: he signed his one day contract, which I think was

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Speaker 1: April of twenty seventeen, and we were asking about that

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Speaker 1: play and Andre sonest, He's like, it's fourth to ten.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think I didn't think Matt was gonna look

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Speaker 1: at me, and you could see it in his route.

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Speaker 1: He starts to go across and they had run that

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Speaker 1: route earlier and they didn't hit it. And so Andre

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Speaker 1: gets to the end of the route and he's like,

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Speaker 1: all right, he's not looking Oh my god, he's looking

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Speaker 1: at me. And he took off for the end zone

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Speaker 1: and listening to Dre tell the story about that, and

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Speaker 1: then of course he sees the ball in the air

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Speaker 1: and he's like, oh, I'm not letting read Dody go

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Speaker 1: get this ball. I'm gonna go get it. And then

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Speaker 1: of course the Muhammad Ali pose out as he spikes

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Speaker 1: it standing over Doughty in the end zone is just awesome,

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Speaker 1: and it's one of the more iconic photos in Texas history.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's so it's so incredible. That's that's the

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Speaker 1: one my one of my favorite Andre Johnson moments is

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Speaker 1: one that nobody will ever nobody will ever know, and

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Speaker 1: maybe nobody ever saw. And it happened in the twenty

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Speaker 1: fourteen game at Dallas against the Cowboys, and we were

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Speaker 1: down seventeen ten, and we were going to our left

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Speaker 1: and it was right underneath you know, obviously where the

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Speaker 1: Arlington booth is. It was. It happened right in front

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Speaker 1: of you. But Arian ran in the touchdown to make

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Speaker 1: it seventeen seventeen. And that day is such an electric

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Speaker 1: day because I'm telling you, if it wasn't fifty fifty

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Speaker 1: and that stand stands, it was like fifty one forty nine.

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Speaker 1: So Aryan scores to make it seventeen sixteen. We got

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Speaker 1: his tack on the extra point, and I just I

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Speaker 1: obviously was on our sideline and I happened to look

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Speaker 1: closest part of the end zone, because Aaron was on

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Speaker 1: the other side and Andre was having like a one

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Speaker 1: man celebration in the end zone and just like you

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Speaker 1: could tell, he was just kind of like gesturing to

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Speaker 1: the ground, like this is our house. He walked over

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Speaker 1: to the Texans fans, he started celebrating with them, and

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Speaker 1: it was just this moment of joy. It was really

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Speaker 1: cool to watch because he wasn't a guy that was demonstrative.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't a guy that said a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 1: But I just happened to catch him celebrating just kind

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Speaker 1: of on his own, and it's one of those things

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Speaker 1: where you know, it's like you're dancing your car alone,

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Speaker 1: nobody's really watching you. I just happened to see him,

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Speaker 1: and I thought it was one of the coolest things

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Speaker 1: I'd ever seen, how excited he was getting. And obviously

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Speaker 1: we didn't win that game, but I'll never forget that day,

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Speaker 1: and I'll never forget him celebrating about that, and it

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Speaker 1: would be his last season with the Texans, and it's

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Speaker 1: just it was so cool to see him have that

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Speaker 1: moment in that particular game against that particular team. How

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Speaker 1: about the schedule next year for traveling Texans. The road

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Speaker 1: schedule for next year the way it stands right now,

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Speaker 1: at Chicago at Dallas, at Denver at Vegas, at the

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Speaker 1: New York Giants at Miami. Are you kidding? And the NFC,

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Speaker 1: I mean the AFC North team just flip a coin

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Speaker 1: right now, or you know, throw a dart because I'm

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Speaker 1: not really sure food throw a blindfold of dart. I'm

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Speaker 1: not really sure how that's gonna work out with that

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Speaker 1: division because there are a lot of different scenarios still

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Speaker 1: in the AFC North. I'm kind of pulling for the

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Speaker 1: Bengals here this week. What I mean, I'm kind of

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Speaker 1: I hate the Chiefs. I want to see the Chiefs lose,

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Speaker 1: So I'm up for that, Johnny. That's gonna do it

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Speaker 1: for this hour. We're gonna hear from you next you know,

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Speaker 1: you got this compilation of Keynes talking about Andrey Johnson

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Speaker 1: that's coming up in about forty five minutes. Frank Gore, Reggie, Wayne,

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Speaker 1: Michael Irvin, what he had to say about his chances

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Speaker 1: getting into the Hall. We'll have that for you. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna visit with Chris Conley. You're gonna hear more Andrey

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Speaker 1: Johnson highlights, also a visit with Jonathan Grenard. It's all

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Speaker 1: We're gonna down the quarterback Now it's Texans all excess,

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Speaker 1: Presented by Metris fur Matt gets the snap show, Matt

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Speaker 1: steps to his right, Matt trying to step up. Matt

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Speaker 1: He's had toward the end zone. Wats Andre Johnson. He

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Speaker 1: makes the catch for a text sense touchdown, Andre Johnson

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Speaker 1: plucks it out of the air. How about Texans will

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Speaker 1: tie this game? Mat Shop just said, go ahead and

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Speaker 1: get it. You're the best wide receiver in the league.

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Speaker 1: Oh what a great memory that is of the Texans

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Speaker 1: defeating Washington. That was the game tying touchdown. Iconic image

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Speaker 1: of Andre catching the ball, spiking it Muhammad Ali over

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Speaker 1: sunny liston style and you've seen that picture so many times,

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Speaker 1: And that was the call from that particular game a

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Speaker 1: week two showdown with Washington. The Texans prevailed in the

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Speaker 1: extra session. Andre Johnson is a finalist for the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame. Let's hope for the best. We talked about

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Speaker 1: him a bunch in the opening hour of this show.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to some things we had planned and we'll

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Speaker 1: talk more about Andrea as the show continues here. But

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Speaker 1: Chris Conley, one of the wide receivers for this Houston

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Speaker 1: Texans squad here in twenty twenty one on DEEPCU had

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Speaker 1: a chance to catch up with him, and we had

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Speaker 1: learned a whole lot more about this guy. Former Jaguar

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Speaker 1: made a big touchdown catch last week against the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: Here's that conversation, all right, So One of the first

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Speaker 1: things that I learned about you when you signed with

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Speaker 1: the Texans went I write the series called Get to Know,

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Speaker 1: And just in a very cursory search of you, saw

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Speaker 1: your film Retribution, the Star Wars fan film that you

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Speaker 1: made at Georgia. So I learned very quickly that you're

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Speaker 1: a big Star Wars buff. So I watched it. It's

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Speaker 1: twenty six minutes. It feels like a short feature film.

852
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 1: It's pretty intense. You've got Stormtroopers, you've got battle scenes,

853
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: you've got special effects, you've got cameos, you've got extras.

854
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: How long did something like that take for you to

855
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: put together? You wrote it, directed it, and started it

856
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: right too long? It took me too long. I think

857
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: that the whole the idea gathering process for that probably

858
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: took me a month and a half. At that point,

859
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: I didn't know anything about writing scripts, and so it

860
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: was really just an outline of what I wanted to happen.

861
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: Then after that it was more of like the idea

862
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: of Okay, I wanted to have these sort of choreographed

863
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 1: fights that were in it, and so then that took

864
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: Finding the people who would be involved in that took

865
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 1: me another month, and choreographing and practicing those fights took

866
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: another month, and then putting together gathering these groups of

867
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: people and finding the people who had the knowledge that

868
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: I didn't have at the time to make something like

869
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 1: that happen. So all in all, that process probably took

870
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: six to eight months, and I learned a lot from it.

871
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: You know, they'd say, if you don't look back at

872
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: your earlier films and cringe, then you didn't do it right.

873
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,760
Speaker 1: But I that's like the number one thing that people

874
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: when they talk about my love for like storytelling or filmmaking,

875
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: that's the number one thing that they bring up, because

876
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: obviously that was my first one, and it's also it

877
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 1: kind of went viral back then. But I just it

878
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: makes me cringe. What makes you cringe about I thought

879
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: it was I thought that was for a college student

880
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: to put something like that together. I expected far less,

881
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: to be honest, because it was a college production, but

882
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: it seemed pretty high quality. It's I mean, I don't

883
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: know how much money you had and how much time

884
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: you had to do it, But what makes you cringe

885
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: about it? None? Really, But it's the fact that what

886
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: I know now about storytelling and being efficient with the

887
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 1: time that you have a viewer. Obviously it's twenty six

888
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: minutes long. I didn't know anything about what a short

889
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 1: film is. You want to keep a short film under

890
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: fifteen feature? Oh yeah, it's definitely. I've I crossed the line.

891
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: I crossed the line big time. But there were so

892
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: many ideas that I had that I put all of

893
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 1: my ideas into the film. And one of the things

894
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: that you learn as you mature as a writer and

895
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: as a creator, and um, there's a saying and they say,

896
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: it's like killing your little babies, and it's like all

897
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 1: the little all the little things that you love, all

898
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: the little ideas that you think are so cool, when

899
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: it comes to a project, you have to learn how

900
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: to get rid of them. You have to learn how

901
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 1: to cut them out. You have to cut all the

902
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: excess and the fat off the bone and really just

903
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 1: leave the meat there and get to the point and

904
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: grab it, grab a viewers attention, keep that attention, convey

905
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: and tell a short story in as short time as

906
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 1: possible and then get out. And so that's that's really

907
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: what good filmmaking is. Good filmmaking can tell great filmmaking

908
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: can tell so many storylines in a short amount of time,

909
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: in a concise amount of space. And that's really what

910
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: I've been working on and learning. And when I watched that,

911
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: it's just it's just idea vomit and it's just all over.

912
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 1: Maybe you needed an editor, you needed someone with, you know,

913
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 1: an objective point of view. I had an editor. I

914
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: didn't edit that video. That your editor all your babies too,

915
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: I take it, yeah, put everything in there. At that point,

916
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: I didn't know how to operate a camera myself. At

917
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: that point, I didn't know how to I could use

918
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 1: basic editing software. I didn't know anything about tempo or

919
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: anything like that. So editing and color grading work something

920
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 1: that I did. So I had other people doing all

921
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: of that, and when I saw things at the end,

922
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 1: I just had, you know, some basic Oh well, I

923
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: don't really like how long this is or how long,

924
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 1: but it wasn't really in depth. Now, when I do

925
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: a film, i'd either like to get sent every single

926
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: draft that comes from an editor, or i'd like to

927
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: be in the room with them as they're editing. And

928
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: because really your vision has to be it has to

929
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: be as close to that original vision that you wrote

930
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 1: as possible and then also like you have to be

931
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: the person to when it comes down to it, is

932
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: willing to cut things short and say, hey, we're going

933
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: over here, Hey we're lingering too long on this moment,

934
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,240
Speaker 1: or in the rare chance that there is an artistic

935
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: moment that really happens that shines through on set, let

936
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: it breathe a little bit. And I feel like that

937
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: is something that as a director, for your vision, you

938
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 1: have to be there to say, because an editor might

939
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: have a completely different sense of what's going on on

940
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 1: the screen, and a small edit can completely change the

941
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 1: tone of a piece. These feel like nuanced. These feel

942
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: like very small, nuanced things that you just gather over time.

943
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 1: But it sounds to me like you want to direct again.

944
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: I want to make another movie again sometime in the future. Yeah,

945
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: is that you think that you might do it again?

946
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: I've I've made I've done something creative every offseason that

947
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 1: I've been in the league, whether that's shooting a short film,

948
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: producing like the miniseries that we did here with the

949
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 1: comment Cravings, I've done something. I've probably shot At this point,

950
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 1: I think I've shot five or six short films since Retribution,

951
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: and every single time trying to tackle another hurdle in

952
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: the filmmaking world. There's a lot of problems that arise

953
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 1: when you're trying to tell a story. There's so many

954
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: things that come up, and there's a lot of dues

955
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: and don'ts, and I like to try to tackle the

956
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: don't so that I can understand why it's a don't,

957
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: and so I know, you know, if there comes a

958
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 1: time where I need to use that technique or need

959
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: to be in this situation, I've done it before and

960
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 1: I can tackle it, you know, things like show, don't Tell.

961
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: I've done like entire short films that have no audio.

962
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 1: I've done a short film where I had no crew,

963
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: where I did it as a running gun one man.

964
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: I set the camera, I pulled the focus. I was

965
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 1: in it, I edited it, I colored it, I did everything.

966
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: I've done short film where I used anamorphix, big heavy,

967
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: expensive lenses that add to your you know, your time

968
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: on set in the preparation, and I've I've tried to

969
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: really like push myself to learn more about even roles

970
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,479
Speaker 1: that I might not be in charge of on set.

971
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: You know, on a lot of my larger project projects,

972
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 1: I'm just directing I'm just the writer director. I don't

973
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 1: have to pull focus. I don't have to I'm not

974
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 1: the gaffer. I don't have to light things. But I

975
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: did all of that just so that I would have

976
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: a greater knowledge base for the next time that I'm

977
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: on set, so I can be maybe a little more

978
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: technical when I'm talking to my crew, I can be

979
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,280
Speaker 1: a little more sensitive when I'm talking to my actors

980
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: and coaching them through a scene and trying to get

981
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: their best performance. I feel like, well, when I was

982
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 1: watching Retribution, you had Todd Gurley, he had a camera,

983
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: and you had your coach in there, and that it

984
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: only it makes me wonder if you did a film now,

985
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: a Star Wars sort of a film with your current

986
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: Texans teammates, who would you cast and in what role

987
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: would you cast them? I feel like you've got some

988
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 1: potential there in the locker room. There's a lot of potential.

989
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: There's there's tons I I don't think I would do

990
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: it again per se, but I'll because for the reason

991
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: everyone says that they want to be in a film

992
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 1: until they realize what the call time is. You know. Obviously,

993
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 1: Retribution was my first project. I was in college I

994
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,919
Speaker 1: had nothing else to do. I could literally be out

995
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: on campus shooting all day and not eat and it'd

996
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: be fine. And college students had no problem with that now,

997
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,240
Speaker 1: But now, when you have like actual crews, you have limits.

998
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 1: You got you got salaries, you got you know this,

999
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: and there's rules. So that's the reason call times are

1000
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: so early. So everybody goes, I want to be I

1001
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 1: want to be in your next film, and you tell them, okay,

1002
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 1: the call time for extras is for thirty year five

1003
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: and none of them show up and you're not getting

1004
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 1: paid either because you're not getting you're not getting paid.

1005
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: I have to pick. There's certain people I have to

1006
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: pay that have to be there. You're not getting paid.

1007
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: But um, who would I cast? Yeah, let's just say,

1008
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: let's just say that they're all going, they're all really

1009
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,439
Speaker 1: willing to just show up at four in the morning

1010
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,399
Speaker 1: for call time. You don't have to pay them. They're

1011
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,919
Speaker 1: gonna happily do it. Who would who would you cast?

1012
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: Who would be your your leading protagonist, leading villain, your extras?

1013
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: How would you star wars characters? Let's villain, let's put

1014
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 1: your let's put your teammates and strowing. I'm going sith

1015
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: Lord is uh. The fifth Lord is definitely Tyrod, not

1016
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 1: because he's a bad guy, but because he just has

1017
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: the hair for it, right. He has very very dramatic

1018
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: I can I call him Frederick Douglass all the time

1019
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,240
Speaker 1: he takes out his braids. He's got there the Frederick

1020
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: Douglas do going on. And I can just I can

1021
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,320
Speaker 1: already see at what I makeup to do with his

1022
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: eyebrows and his you know, his beard and stuff. I

1023
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 1: can make Tyl I'd look like a menace, Okay, And

1024
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: so I would definitely have him as you know, like

1025
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: the old sith Lord, pulling the strings and things like that.

1026
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: I guess you know I could do. Uh, man, this

1027
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: is there's there's so many there's so many, so many options, uh,

1028
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: and things that you could do. You need your you

1029
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 1: need your gun slinger, you're your young gun. Uh. You

1030
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 1: know we could put we can make han Solo could

1031
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 1: be Davis. Davis could be the Haunter okay five character.

1032
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 1: He doesn't talk enough for that though, so you got

1033
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 1: to know the personalities a guy. Yeah, Davis doesn't talk

1034
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: a lot. He's not the smooth the smooth talker. We'll

1035
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 1: go we could go Justin Reid. Yeah, we can do.

1036
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 1: We're just swapping him out. Yeah, Justin will swap him out.

1037
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 1: He's got to be the silent the silent type. Yeah, Pharaoh.

1038
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 1: Pharaoh could be uh, Chewbacca because they're the same sigh. Technically, Yeah,

1039
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: I mean there's there's a lot of there's a lot

1040
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 1: of Luke ways you go with that, uhlu Skywalker man,

1041
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 1: that's tough. Luke Darth Vader, You've got some that is tough.

1042
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: I mean. So, I am one a fan of originality.

1043
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,800
Speaker 1: If you're going to make even a fan film of

1044
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: an established IP such as Star Wars, you shouldn't use

1045
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: established characters. The universe is so big that you do

1046
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: it a disservice by recasting an icon instead of telling

1047
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: a new story. Oh okay, of someone, Just create new stories,

1048
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: creating new stories, create new characters. That's what I'm hoping

1049
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 1: that they're going to do with the you know, the

1050
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: company that actually owns the IP, because there's there's so

1051
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 1: many great things that could happen, and I think the

1052
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 1: best way to respect it and to respect Star Wars

1053
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: fans is to tell new stories. And I think that

1054
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,479
Speaker 1: you know what you've seen from these Disney Plus shows,

1055
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: you know, The Mandalorian and things have really really shown that.

1056
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: And that's my that's my serious Star Wars fan talking.

1057
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: Then well, okay, so I have a serious Star Wars

1058
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 1: question for you. So when you go for people that

1059
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: haven't watched any of it, there's always this discussion about

1060
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: what order. What's the order do you watch it in?

1061
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I have my opinion on I'm sure you

1062
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: have yours. You watch it in chronological order, as in

1063
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 1: how the series of events actually happen, or do you

1064
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,439
Speaker 1: watch it in the order of release. Do you watch

1065
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: all the movies first and then watch the shows or

1066
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,919
Speaker 1: do you intersperse the TV shows into the movies into

1067
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 1: some sort of timeline there. So I'll put it this way,

1068
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: the shows always need to come after the movies because

1069
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: the shows can introduce things and concepts that you don't

1070
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: understand at all. Now. The only exception to that is

1071
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 1: The Mandalorian. It can kind of stand alone on its own.

1072
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: It is a space western, it is a gun slingers show.

1073
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 1: So you can watch it all on its own and

1074
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: know nothing about stars, right, You're just watching a Western.

1075
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: But all the other TV shows you need to have

1076
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: a little bit of contacts with those contacts with those Now,

1077
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: when it comes to the films, I always break it

1078
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: down this way. If you are a person who appreciates

1079
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: the art and the history of the film industry, I'd say,

1080
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 1: watched them in the order that they came out, because

1081
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 1: each of the movies were absolutely groundbreaking and revolutionary for

1082
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: their time. It came to the effects, when it came

1083
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: to storytelling, everything, the visuals, the music, it was all

1084
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: it was all so ahead of its time, and it

1085
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: connected with a whole generation. So if you appreciate the

1086
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: art of film, watch them in the order that they

1087
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 1: were made, and you'll learn a lot about where certain

1088
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: techniques came from. You'll learn a lot about where other

1089
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 1: influences in sci fi and action, in drama, where they

1090
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 1: were gleaned from Star Wars, which gleaned from Dune. Okay,

1091
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 1: so well, I agree with you because I think that

1092
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: there's certain surprises that when the movies came out, the

1093
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 1: fans were shocked and surprised, and I think if you

1094
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: watch it out of order, you won't have that same

1095
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: reaction that some of us have when we watched them.

1096
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 1: This is the only caveat though, if you're not someone

1097
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: who respect the art and the history of film, I

1098
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: would say watch them in the order that they happen,

1099
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: which is watching the one, two, three, because I feel

1100
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: like some people don't give it the time to get

1101
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: into the story. If they're watching an old movie and

1102
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 1: they don't appreciate old movies for what they are, they go,

1103
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: why am I watching this? Like I don't even understand

1104
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 1: what's happening. Get to the action. And really, those movies

1105
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 1: weren't about the action. They did have ground baking action,

1106
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: they did have industrial lighte magic, did have these groundbreaking

1107
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: you know, V effects scenes and all of these things,

1108
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 1: but like, it wasn't about that. It was about the story.

1109
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 1: It was about the characters in their development. And so

1110
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: if you don't appreciate that, definitely watch the new ones

1111
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: because they will grab you with the action and you

1112
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 1: will be able to glean a little bit from the story,

1113
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 1: and maybe after watching those three then you'll be interested

1114
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 1: enough to say, Okay, well let's let's see what happens

1115
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: after that, you know, and then they'll stay they'll stay connected.

1116
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: But really, like the getting into the Star Wars fandom

1117
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 1: for a lot of people is about being at the

1118
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 1: impressionable age where those movies could take you somewhere far

1119
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 1: from here, and you can learn things about morality. You

1120
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: can learn things about the struggle between good and evil.

1121
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 1: You can learn things about being enough in a world

1122
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,439
Speaker 1: that sometimes doesn't think that, or from the outside will

1123
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 1: say that you're not. You know, and that that right

1124
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 1: there connects with a lot of people. That's deep stuff, Chris.

1125
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 1: That's really such a fandom around it, all right. You

1126
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: all you've always been into sci fi and science. And

1127
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 1: I read somewhere that you when you were in third

1128
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 1: grade one a science science for a competition. Do you

1129
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 1: remember what your project was? Yeah, So it was for

1130
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 1: a science fair. And I was one of the kids

1131
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 1: who really hated science fair. Really, I didn't. I didn't

1132
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 1: want to spend a week of my life preparing you know,

1133
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 1: they had those cardboard fold out yeah, yeah, things. I

1134
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 1: didn't want to go home, that's a press project and

1135
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: do something, make a presentation about something that one hundred

1136
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: kids before me had done. And so I was looking

1137
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 1: for any loophole that I could find, not to make

1138
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 1: a presentation about something that everyone already knew about. Okay,

1139
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 1: And one of the loopholes. I found was in the

1140
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 1: fine print. It said or an invention. You know, so

1141
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 1: you invented something it was about, Yeah, it was about

1142
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 1: a process or and it said or invention. They really

1143
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 1: didn't want you doing inventions. Most people were making, you know,

1144
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 1: volcanoes or talking about But I basically took the part

1145
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 1: where it said an invention, and I looked for a

1146
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 1: problem in our world to solve it. And that was

1147
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 1: at the time where Razors scooters were the biggest thing.

1148
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 1: That doesn't seem that long ago. Okay, you were in

1149
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 1: third grade when that happened. Everyone was riding Razors scooters,

1150
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: those metal scooters that when they hit you in the

1151
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 1: shin you got a big knight and hurt. Yeah, everybody

1152
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 1: was riding those. And I noticed that everyone in my

1153
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 1: col de sac, all the kids had them, even if

1154
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:02,959
Speaker 1: they had like you know, the off brand, the cheap ones.

1155
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 1: Everybody had a scooter. And that was just the mode

1156
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 1: of transportation. I'm going to Jimmy's house, I'm taking my scooters.

1157
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 1: And they could literally walk across the lawn to Jimmy's house. Yeah,

1158
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 1: but they rode the scooters. When they would get there,

1159
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 1: they would just drop the scooter on the ground and

1160
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 1: go into or something. So there were scooters all over

1161
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 1: the lawns, and I was like, you know what, they

1162
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 1: need scooter acts, just like they have bike racks. Oh,

1163
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 1: and so I made it was a really primitive you know,

1164
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 1: obviously I was no carpenter or builder. I made a

1165
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 1: primitive scooter act that you could slide your scooter in,

1166
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: you know, with your handlebars, and it would just go

1167
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 1: in here and it would stay upright. Oh. I thought

1168
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna say you invented a kickstand for the scooter,

1169
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 1: but that's even better. The science fair. It wasn't a

1170
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 1: science fair that I want. It actually was submitted by

1171
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 1: one of the teachers at my school to the National

1172
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 1: Young Inventor's Program competition every year where they take inventions

1173
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 1: across the country and they basically try to identify young

1174
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 1: innovators and basically support them, give them an opportunity to

1175
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 1: continue to devote their idea, and basically they get a

1176
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 1: small scholarship and basically say hey, don't stop inventing. This

1177
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 1: is how you know our country basically moves industries forward.

1178
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 1: So I won that. I was the Craftsmen NSTA Young

1179
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: Inventors Program and I was one of eight finalists. This

1180
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 1: makes so much more sense because I read the prize,

1181
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 1: which was very a very random assortment of things to

1182
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 1: me because I thought it was a science for It

1183
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 1: was a five thousand dollars savings bond, a trip to

1184
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 1: the Nationals to Chicago with your family, and then a

1185
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 1: visit with Bob Vila. Yeah of this old house, which

1186
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 1: I think as a third grader, did you know who

1187
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 1: was la because Bob Vila was in all the Craftsman

1188
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 1: commercials back well, yeah, every single Craftsman tool commercial and

1189
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 1: building this and that, So that's I knew who Bob

1190
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 1: Vila was. Were you super excited to meet? But do

1191
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 1: you remember meeting Bobula was? But I remember thinking like, man,

1192
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 1: my idea is okay, I'm not really sure what the

1193
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 1: these other kids were. And boy was I right when

1194
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 1: I got there. These other kids inventions. Like I told you,

1195
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 1: I made like this little primitive. It was like a

1196
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 1: little block of wood and I had these like angled,

1197
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 1: you know, pieces of metal that were drilled into it

1198
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 1: so that it was just wide enough for a scooter.

1199
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 1: And it was like, oh, like that's cute. And I'm

1200
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 1: watching like these other kids. This one kid like invented

1201
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 1: like a way to like a machine to automatically I

1202
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 1: think it was like to water crops or something like that.

1203
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 1: And I'm like, wow, you're in the same age as me.

1204
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yeah, I'm not. I'm in a

1205
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 1: room full of savants. And I just was like, they're

1206
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 1: not going to be Razor scooters on your cul de

1207
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 1: sac anymore. So that was a huge problem at the time. Yeah, well,

1208
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 1: you know, the scooters aren't as big of a thing anymore,

1209
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 1: but I still do see. You know, these these bird

1210
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 1: and Lime scooters all over the ground were everywhere. They

1211
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 1: could have installed scooter rex all the way back then.

1212
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 1: We could still be using them all right, So are

1213
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 1: you in a squid game? You know? I watched the

1214
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 1: first episode was it first episode of first two episodes

1215
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 1: last week, and I am intrigued. Now. The problem with

1216
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 1: that is is I want to binge watch it, but no,

1217
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 1: which is what I've heard people. I watched the first

1218
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 1: episode with my wife and she just had a kid.

1219
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:16,479
Speaker 1: It's not really timing up with the ability to binge

1220
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 1: watch it, and I know she's going to be upset

1221
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 1: if I will watch it. Oh, you can't watch it

1222
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 1: without I started it with it. If I would have

1223
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 1: started it without her, I'd be already done right now.

1224
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 1: So you're a fan, I take I am? You like it? Okay, yeah,

1225
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 1: I am. I I think it's I think it's great.

1226
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 1: I think some people don't like watching foreign shows and

1227
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 1: films and they don't like subtitles and they don't like Well,

1228
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 1: I didn't think that was I thought the issue with

1229
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 1: Squid game wasn't so much the subtitles as it was

1230
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 1: the gore. From what I understand, just from what I've

1231
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 1: heard about it, I don't mind it. The premise is interest.

1232
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 1: Like for people that don't know, it's it's basically a

1233
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 1: childhood game that you play and if you if you fail,

1234
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 1: if you fail, you die. It's pretty easy. So what

1235
01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 1: what what? What would be your squid game of choice?

1236
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 1: What would be your game of a childhood game of choice?

1237
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. I haven't watched the whole I haven't

1238
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 1: watched the whole first season yet, so I don't really

1239
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 1: you have a game from your childhood that you think

1240
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 1: that you would bet on yourself that you would win

1241
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 1: that game. I mean, I think that the whole idea

1242
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 1: of childhood games is just and I think this is

1243
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 1: where the show really succeeds, is the whole idea of

1244
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 1: the fact that when you when you played childhood games

1245
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 1: as a kid, you didn't really fear anything. You know,

1246
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 1: when you were a kid, you thought you were invincible.

1247
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 1: You jumped off the jungle gym, you know, playing the

1248
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 1: floor's lava. You know, you you would climb across the

1249
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 1: highest part because the floor was lava. But you were

1250
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 1: literally fearless and really playing with the idea of something

1251
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 1: that we relate to in such a such an area

1252
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 1: of comfort and then flipping it on its head and

1253
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 1: making it dangerous. I think that's one of the psychological

1254
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 1: bits of that show that just makes it so intriguing

1255
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 1: to everyone. But I feel like, if I had to

1256
01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 1: pick ah, that's scary. I loved I love playing dodgeball.

1257
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 1: I feel like, if you're playing squid game dodgeball, you're

1258
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 1: gonna die. Well, you're a professional football player, so you

1259
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 1: do have a leg up on your competition. You know.

1260
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 1: I'm in my mind when I think about playing dodge ball,

1261
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about playing with dodgeball with other people like me,

1262
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 1: And that's that's a tough game dodgeball. I'm not thinking

1263
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 1: about playing. I'm pretty sure that you're representing society, our

1264
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 1: normal society. You're also a receiver though ten other mes. Yeah,

1265
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 1: that is not a bet I want to take. Or

1266
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 1: if I'm playing dodgeball and squid game with the guys

1267
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Speaker 1: in this locker room and it's not just the lineman,

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01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 1: I'm not taking that bet. Yeah, just people are too

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01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 1: athletic at this point. That makes sense to me. I'm

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Speaker 1: thinking in society, you'd probably you'd probably do pretty well

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Speaker 1: with squid game dodgeball. I had to guess, Hey, when

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Speaker 1: your life's on the line, all right, Chris, Well, you

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01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 1: mentioned the baby, So I have to ask you what's

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01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 1: surprised you most. I know it's early on, but anything

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01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 1: really stand out? She were surprised you about being a

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01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 1: dad so far? I think I would say the fact

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Speaker 1: that she's very attentive. She's very like I get, I

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01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 1: get the best I tell people, I get the best

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01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:12,719
Speaker 1: parts of the baby. Because when I come home, she's

1280
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:18,799
Speaker 1: just awake, eyes open, uh, not crying, not screaming, nothing.

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01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 1: She just wants to sit there and hang out. But

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01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:23,560
Speaker 1: I have help, you know, my sister was here and

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01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:26,680
Speaker 1: my mother in law was here, and they have been

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01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 1: watching the baby during the night, so I've been able

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Speaker 1: to sleep at night and you know, do my recovery

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01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 1: and get ready for practice. But I definitely was not

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01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 1: expecting her to have such a like one eighty change.

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01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 1: You know, she goes from being like so cool, calm,

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01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 1: and everything's fine with dad, and then I, you know,

1290
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 1: get downstairs in the morning as I'm leaving and it's like, hey,

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01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 1: how did you sleep? It's like she did it? You know, really,

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01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 1: I've never seen her do that. She's just really happy

1293
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 1: when I'm around. I don't know, she doesn't like if

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01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:00,560
Speaker 1: she cries around me, it's for like just like a

1295
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 1: couple of minutes and then just then it's just cool.

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01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 1: She's just chilling. Wow. Yeah. But then like she's apparently

1297
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 1: she's up all night. Well you're sleeping, so you wouldn't

1298
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 1: you just have to take everyone else's word for it

1299
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 1: that she was Yeah, good for you for getting some sleep, though.

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01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 1: She's but she's been she's been great. She's wide eyed

1301
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 1: and the beautiful. All right, Well, congratulations, and you know what,

1302
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to hit you up again when some

1303
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:26,720
Speaker 1: of these Star Wars, these prequels and sequels come out

1304
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 1: and get your thoughts on them. I know I'm terrified,

1305
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 1: but I hope, I'm I'm such a fan that I'm

1306
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 1: actually I'm hopeful with you know, with the leadership that

1307
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 1: they've kind of allowed to do their thing now, letting

1308
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:45,640
Speaker 1: directors tell their stories instead of telling a director what

1309
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 1: story to tell. You know, I think that's a good

1310
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 1: model for filmmaking. I hope that they continue to do that.

1311
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 1: Let people tell the stories. You know, you brought him

1312
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 1: in to tell a story, Let him tell it. I

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01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 1: like it. He's very hopeful and optimistic about Star Wars. Yeah,

1314
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 1: good tone. All right, Thanks Chris, Thank you so much

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01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:04,640
Speaker 1: for the time. No problem. Thanks for having Deep with

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01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:07,719
Speaker 1: Chris Conley. When we get back. More highlights from Andre

1317
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:10,759
Speaker 1: Johnson being named a finalist for the Hall of Fame.

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01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 1: It'll be officially announced the week of the Super Bowl.

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01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:16,759
Speaker 1: Who makes the inductee list. So one more hill to climb.

1320
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Speaker 1: Also John Grenard with Deep and then some here on

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Speaker 1: continue to celebrate Andre Johnson being named a Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame finalist, as the inductee list will be announced super

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Speaker 1: Bowl week, but Andre named a finalist today shortly after

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Speaker 1: four pm Central. Hoping for the best, We're playing some

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Speaker 1: highlights coming out of the breaks, including that one from

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Speaker 1: the playoff win over Cincinnati, the inaugural playoff game in

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Speaker 1: Texans history, and Andre Johnson, of course a part of it,

1341
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 1: catching a touchdown of the second half and boy, what

1342
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 1: a release that was. All the hard work he did

1343
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 1: throughout his career finally gets a chance to play in

1344
01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 1: the postseason and makes the most of it. All right,

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01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:03,679
Speaker 1: let's continue here, our Texans all Access, no Thursday night game.

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01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 1: Let's get to the best of Giana. Think Grenard adepbcity

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01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 1: had a chance to sit down and Grenard super interesting.

1348
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 1: Let's hear it. Jonathan Grenard bright spot as head coach

1349
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 1: David Culley describes him, how has it been for you

1350
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 1: in year two? Just healthy, getting back on the field,

1351
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 1: getting some plays out there. It's fine. I think just

1352
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 1: with a new field of everything, you know, with new

1353
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 1: coaching staff, new players as well. I think overall we

1354
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 1: just kind of have that that new field, and I

1355
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 1: think we're all hungry. I think we all kind of

1356
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 1: got us clean slate here, and I think just all

1357
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 1: of us jumping together, all having that same mindset. You know,

1358
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 1: some guys are on one year deals and stuff like that.

1359
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 1: They're just trying to put their best foot forward. And

1360
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 1: I think when you have that all in the room

1361
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 1: in general, not just on the defensive side, but on

1362
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 1: the other side as well, in all aspects, it helps

1363
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,160
Speaker 1: everybody just say one thing you wouldn't have to worry

1364
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 1: about this effort, and I think that one thing keeps

1365
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:50,840
Speaker 1: driving us to make the plays and stuff like that.

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01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 1: All right, speaking of effort, you've had multi sack back

1367
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 1: to back games. So two sacks and back to back games,

1368
01:13:57,479 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 1: it seems like you're really getting to the quarterback. It's

1369
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 1: something front for you this year. What's what's been your

1370
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 1: secret to really getting after these quarterbacks? Yeah? I think

1371
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 1: last year just getting my feet weight a little bit

1372
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:09,599
Speaker 1: understanding how the game goes helped me out a lot

1373
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 1: in those aspects, just to get a feel for it.

1374
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 1: But definitely just to continue just to keep playing. Like

1375
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 1: I said, with us with this new staff, new system,

1376
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 1: and a new scheme we were on it's just lets

1377
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 1: people play. Lets the guys just go. You know, getting

1378
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 1: your gap gives you assignment and not to think that

1379
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 1: much and just go make play. So I think once

1380
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 1: the thinking aspect was taken out of it, especially coming

1381
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:28,680
Speaker 1: from last year with different defense, um, I was just

1382
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:30,600
Speaker 1: able to go. And I think that's what we're saying now.

1383
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 1: Just for me just continues to be relentless and effort

1384
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:34,639
Speaker 1: just so that I can try to make the most

1385
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 1: plays with the team. You're also getting after the running backs.

1386
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to just say you're getting after the

1387
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 1: quarterbacks the year one to year to jump. That's something

1388
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 1: that we hear a lot about. You're still really young,

1389
01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:45,760
Speaker 1: you're early in your career. But how different are you

1390
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 1: now than you were a year ago? Yeah, last, I'm

1391
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 1: just more confident. I think overall, just like I said,

1392
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 1: having that year in the league, understanding that you know,

1393
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 1: it's it's still football at end of the day. Most

1394
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 1: people can say that, but actually knowing that when you're

1395
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:58,560
Speaker 1: on the field is a totally different thing. And I

1396
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 1: think when I just put that to the side and

1397
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 1: I understand, Okay, it's football, end the day, these guys

1398
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 1: put this stuff on the same way, and the stuff

1399
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 1: that you work on the off season use it. I mean,

1400
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 1: these are things that you know, you don't work on

1401
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:10,719
Speaker 1: it for nothing, and these are things that guys probably

1402
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 1: haven't seen. You ask some new tea repertoire. So I

1403
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 1: think the successions comes to that. Now, I work really

1404
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 1: hard in the off season, and even still to this point,

1405
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 1: I still work hard to keep my body right so

1406
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:20,679
Speaker 1: that way I can't make these plays in a weekend

1407
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:22,560
Speaker 1: and week out. So I'm excited. I mean, this is

1408
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:24,720
Speaker 1: just the beginning for me. I'm still excited for where

1409
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 1: this team goes. I mean, we've got a lot in

1410
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 1: the tank. I think we just gotta now just put

1411
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 1: it on tape, just finish it out so that we

1412
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 1: can get the result we want to get. Yeah, obviously

1413
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 1: not the result that you guys want so far. Levi

1414
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 1: Smith said, you know, we think the sack numbers are

1415
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 1: really high for you, but Levie Smith said that you

1416
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:39,240
Speaker 1: probably that you still left some sacks on the field. Yeah.

1417
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 1: Do you feel that in game? Do you feel like,

1418
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 1: oh that was that was a missed opportunity or is

1419
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 1: that something that you go back and you watch the

1420
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 1: film and you see it. It's a little bit of both.

1421
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 1: But majority of times I see it or I feel it,

1422
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:50,840
Speaker 1: like as soon as the play happens, I come to

1423
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 1: the sideline like I should have had that one, Like

1424
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 1: I just know that, you know, in the closing and

1425
01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 1: I got tripped up. I know I should have had

1426
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 1: that one. Or is it a holding call? You just

1427
01:15:57,560 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 1: see that, you know, whether you clear this hand or

1428
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,600
Speaker 1: that's that goes back to your training, you know, clearing

1429
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 1: those hands so that where they can't hold you, so

1430
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 1: that when you don't not get the sacks, all those

1431
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 1: little small details that you have to hone in on.

1432
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 1: And I, as d lineman or anybody knows when you

1433
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 1: when you missed the play because of a technique thing,

1434
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 1: you know instantly. Okay, So I've read that you actually

1435
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 1: started playing football. It was a funny story. You were

1436
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 1: at four years old and somebody approached your mom about

1437
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 1: whether or not you played football. Yeah, it was funny,

1438
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 1: she says to this day. And I remember the day,

1439
01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:29,640
Speaker 1: but I just don't remember the way she explains it. So,

1440
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I was just a kid out there playing

1441
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 1: football having fun. And you know, my coach at the time,

1442
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 1: it was like I just gonna play football, and I

1443
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 1: never knew anything about it. So when they brought up

1444
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 1: my mom and my dad brought it to us, me

1445
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:41,680
Speaker 1: and my brother. He was he was bigger than I was,

1446
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 1: so you knew he was playing offensive line. But I

1447
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 1: was going to play running back. But I started off

1448
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 1: as a linement as well, and it took for me

1449
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 1: to take a handoff as a nose guard. I ended

1450
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:51,840
Speaker 1: up running through the line taking a hand off back

1451
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:53,599
Speaker 1: literally out of the quarterback's hand. It was like, Okay,

1452
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 1: well this kid's playing running back. And I honestly play

1453
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 1: running back all the way up until like my nine

1454
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 1: tenth grade the year of high school. So and then

1455
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:01,600
Speaker 1: they moved me to I made the transition to the

1456
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 1: tight end receiver in D line. So those dreams of

1457
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 1: those days over once I hit a gross spurt, so

1458
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:08,360
Speaker 1: I couldn't play running back anymore. You're on the defensive,

1459
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 1: though you could still you could still get the ball

1460
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:11,639
Speaker 1: in your hands, but it'd have to be a major

1461
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 1: play for that to happen. All right. You said something

1462
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 1: once in an interview that really intrigued me. You said,

1463
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 1: we never knew as kids what we were going through

1464
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 1: until we were older and realized what was going on.

1465
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 1: At that time, you said your mom made it seem

1466
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 1: like you were living in high fashion. Yeah for sure.

1467
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:28,560
Speaker 1: So how did your mom make you feel that you

1468
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 1: were living a big life when you were Yeah, I

1469
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 1: just got to know her. I mean it's I can

1470
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:35,880
Speaker 1: explain it, but she has this energy sometimes or we

1471
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 1: didn't realize it back then, but I mean she just

1472
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 1: makes she's how to keep everything calm. I mean, she's

1473
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 1: been through so much of her life to know, you

1474
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 1: know how whether any storm. Honestly, it's so many stories

1475
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:46,559
Speaker 1: we have grown up. Mean, my brother and my sister

1476
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 1: of us. Just like I said, we thought we were

1477
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 1: living lavish, but I mean we look back now and

1478
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, well we did. We struggled a little bit.

1479
01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:55,679
Speaker 1: I mean, like everybody has their stories. We had tough times,

1480
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 1: but you would never know under the under that roof.

1481
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 1: I mean were times where it was money was tighte

1482
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 1: with food was sight. But we had a meal somehow,

1483
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 1: whether it was scraped together or not. We we ate.

1484
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 1: So that's all I knew. My stomach was full, I

1485
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:08,600
Speaker 1: had closed in my back, shoes on my feet, and

1486
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:10,599
Speaker 1: the roof over my head, and that's all that. That's

1487
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 1: all that mattered. And then she didn't. She didn't put

1488
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:14,400
Speaker 1: that on us. She didn't cast the stress of words

1489
01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 1: on us. And you never seen it on her face.

1490
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:18,599
Speaker 1: She will come into the house, hey how are you doing, babe, guests,

1491
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 1: kids and all that, and she straighten the cooking every week,

1492
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 1: I mean every day. I mean, it's just like a

1493
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 1: routine for her. So that hats off to I love

1494
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 1: that later to death and those are things that you know,

1495
01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 1: you take pride in and you chair those moments because

1496
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 1: of the struggle that she not only where we going through,

1497
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:34,920
Speaker 1: but to think about what she had of course to

1498
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 1: mask all of that. And and my sister, she was

1499
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 1: older than all the She's ten years old than me,

1500
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 1: so at the time she kind of knew what was

1501
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 1: going on. But obviously hats off to her as well.

1502
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 1: She never let that be known with us as me

1503
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 1: and me and my brother being the youngest, we didn't

1504
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 1: know any of that was going on. They were letting

1505
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:50,640
Speaker 1: you guys have just a normal, carefree childhood out. At

1506
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 1: what point did you realize that that things were tougher

1507
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 1: than she let on. I think it was when I

1508
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 1: was mister story as well, when we were in the

1509
01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 1: recruiting process. I was a senior in high school or

1510
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:00,720
Speaker 1: going into my senior year, went for a visit of

1511
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 1: the UK for a camp University Kentucky, and we went

1512
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 1: up there and obviously things and go as planning, and

1513
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:08,600
Speaker 1: we had to make a transition down to Louisville. But

1514
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 1: at the time we only had our plans to go

1515
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 1: to UK at the time money wise, but we ended

1516
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:16,720
Speaker 1: up having to scrap something, some stuff together, some coins together,

1517
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:18,800
Speaker 1: and end up calling people to send money to that.

1518
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 1: We we were able to go to Louisville and hell

1519
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 1: even make it back home. So from which is like

1520
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:25,680
Speaker 1: I said, Louisville to Georgia, that's about five and a

1521
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 1: half hour time, so, um, gas ain't cheap. So when

1522
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 1: when when those situations arose, I think that was my

1523
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:33,720
Speaker 1: time and I said, okay, well, I see how it

1524
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 1: is now. I understand that. You know, money doesn't grow

1525
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 1: on trees. I mean this is money is not just

1526
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:40,519
Speaker 1: a thing that we don't have to worry about. It's

1527
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:42,640
Speaker 1: the thing that we My mom definitely makes it a

1528
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 1: priority for us. So when I seen that happen, instantly

1529
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 1: I said, well at this point, now I gotta make it.

1530
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 1: I gotta be to this point where she does never

1531
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 1: had to be in a situation we had to ask

1532
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 1: anybody for money or anything that monetary, whatever physical, whatever

1533
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:56,639
Speaker 1: has to be. She would never have to worry about

1534
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 1: that again. And I think from that point on, I

1535
01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 1: took it on my shoulder and I said, okay, I'm

1536
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:01,680
Speaker 1: gonna get I'm gonna take care of Is that the

1537
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 1: biggest motivation for you as far as playing football and

1538
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 1: why you want to be successful in the NFL, for sure.

1539
01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 1: I think not just her, but just my family in general.

1540
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:10,560
Speaker 1: We just, like I said, it was me and my

1541
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 1: brother and my sister and my mom pretty much, and

1542
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 1: obviously with my father at the time, but it was

1543
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 1: just basically us pretty much our whole lives. And I

1544
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 1: think that's why we stick together so much now. I

1545
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:20,719
Speaker 1: just want to take care of them. I mean, theathery

1546
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 1: ones who pretty much you know, I cried on their shoulders,

1547
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 1: they cried on my shoulders. We all stuck together. And

1548
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 1: it's not that many of us. We've got a small

1549
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:28,680
Speaker 1: circles of family. But just to see the joy in

1550
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 1: their faces when when things when when they have one

1551
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 1: less thing to worry about it that just makes my joy.

1552
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:34,720
Speaker 1: I don't have to have anything else. But as long

1553
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 1: as they straight, I'm good. Oh that sounds that's really nice.

1554
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:39,560
Speaker 1: You're just so so close to your family. Were you

1555
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:42,479
Speaker 1: promoting your mom's book recently on social media? Yeah? Go

1556
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 1: get that my mom. Your mom wrote a book. My

1557
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 1: mom has a book, man, It's it's not her life story,

1558
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:48,800
Speaker 1: and I think I really want you all to read it,

1559
01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:50,920
Speaker 1: all right, what's the book called, What's Your Mom? Give

1560
01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 1: your mom's name and give the book detail. Miss Carmen

1561
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 1: Grenard Varnum. Her book is By His Grace I'm here.

1562
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's literally what the title is. And

1563
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 1: she's been through so much. Her story, her growing up

1564
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 1: in the foster care system to now able to raise

1565
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 1: three children on her own, and then then and obviously

1566
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:07,600
Speaker 1: with the help of my stepfather, my my father, but

1567
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 1: but at the time, most time she was with my

1568
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:11,680
Speaker 1: sister by herself when she was young. I mean, her

1569
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 1: her upbringing was really really tough for her to be

1570
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 1: sane um or the same woman with it so much energy.

1571
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 1: It's amazing. Once you read the book and understand the

1572
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 1: background of where she came from, it touches me. I

1573
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 1: haven't read it yet. I mean, I've not read many

1574
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 1: books in my life. You're gonna read this one. It's

1575
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 1: gonna be a book that I pretty much is gonna

1576
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 1: read from talked about him. It's gonna leave some tears.

1577
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:32,439
Speaker 1: It's gonna have tears. You're gonna have. Do you know

1578
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 1: do you know your mom's whole story? I know you

1579
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:38,599
Speaker 1: I know majorit of the story. Some stuff she's she's

1580
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 1: she's not told me all the way just because she

1581
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 1: knows how emotion time about her. She knows that she

1582
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:46,560
Speaker 1: knows that certain things that kind of not not I

1583
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 1: won't I never would look at her sideways or a

1584
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:50,840
Speaker 1: different way, but it's just to be like, wow, you

1585
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 1: really went through that. You're you're still here to this day,

1586
01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 1: you know, on on two feet, sane and in healthy,

1587
01:21:57,160 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 1: which with children looking beautiful. I mean at fifty four,

1588
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:01,439
Speaker 1: she just had a birthday birthday that actually was on

1589
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 1: the twenty fourth, so happy birthday, shout out to my dude.

1590
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, I think the book for her, she's

1591
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:09,800
Speaker 1: been talking about she's been in the works of it

1592
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:11,439
Speaker 1: for about a couple of years now, a couple of

1593
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 1: years so from now actually to get the story out

1594
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:16,760
Speaker 1: there published and actually with a book cover with her

1595
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 1: picture on it. Everything, the whole process is a whole process.

1596
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 1: But every time we talk about the book, I mean

1597
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 1: she's been writing. I remember she just with right chapters,

1598
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 1: just be writing them down and literally in the middle

1599
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 1: of her writing and she's just breasting out in tears

1600
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:30,320
Speaker 1: just because of the emotions of going back to the

1601
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:32,639
Speaker 1: past and stuff like that. But that's why, like I said,

1602
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:36,720
Speaker 1: her energy, her her drive, her determination, I get that

1603
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 1: from her. I mean, I don't put up with none.

1604
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:39,800
Speaker 1: She's gonna put up on nothe either, And I just

1605
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:41,760
Speaker 1: got that grinding mentality she gonna get it some type

1606
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:43,479
Speaker 1: of way. One thing about my mama hustle. She's gonna

1607
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 1: get it some type of way. And that's that's why

1608
01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 1: we're in this situation we are now because of how

1609
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 1: she's just poured that into me. And I'm bringing that

1610
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 1: up today. Are you in the book too? You think

1611
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 1: you're in the book also, I think the story but

1612
01:22:57,800 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 1: I know I'm in the book, but I think I've

1613
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 1: probably come a little bit later on because, like I think,

1614
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:04,320
Speaker 1: I mean, so much stuff happened before I was even born.

1615
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 1: I mean, me and my sister were ten years apart,

1616
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:08,559
Speaker 1: So you gotta think from the ten year point from

1617
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:10,720
Speaker 1: when my sister was born, and obviously my brother were

1618
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 1: four years apart, and even in those times, I mean,

1619
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 1: just everything that's transparred between that point in time, you'll

1620
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:19,560
Speaker 1: see and it's like, wow, she's even sane enough to

1621
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 1: even have two more children after my sister, So it's crazy.

1622
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 1: My mom. She's a fighter man, she's a warrior. I

1623
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 1: think when people really get to know her and understand her,

1624
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 1: they will really understand why her energy and why she's

1625
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 1: so loving. My mom has no enemies. I mean, if

1626
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:34,760
Speaker 1: you have an enemy, if you're an enemy, and my mom,

1627
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 1: you gotta check yourself to be it's just because I mean,

1628
01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 1: she has always Don't get me wrong, obviously everybody does,

1629
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:44,120
Speaker 1: but I think her passion for wanting to you know,

1630
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 1: many relationships or be the person that you can cry on,

1631
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:49,479
Speaker 1: or you know, just somebody de vent too, she wants

1632
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:52,320
Speaker 1: to be that person. And you'll understand why within her book.

1633
01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:54,599
Speaker 1: So for y'all out there, definitely go check out the book.

1634
01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 1: It's definitely hitting the stores. And I'm just happy for her.

1635
01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 1: I'm so proud of her. I mean, and it's called

1636
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,479
Speaker 1: by His Grace, By His Grace. Uh, it's when I

1637
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 1: tell you that, that's how it could not be more

1638
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:06,680
Speaker 1: fitting than any other title. So she took her time

1639
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:09,480
Speaker 1: with this one, um, and I think nobody will be disappointed.

1640
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:11,639
Speaker 1: All right. So you talk about her drive, but your drive,

1641
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:15,560
Speaker 1: you're eighteen credit hours away from getting your mbaye, have

1642
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 1: you chipped away to any of that or what's your

1643
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 1: plans for that with COVID changed everything up. I definitely

1644
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:23,840
Speaker 1: do anticipate to finish it within this next year, really

1645
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 1: hopefully within the season. Well, the season's got to get

1646
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 1: through first and then um that offseason. Like I said,

1647
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 1: really eighteen credit hous is just a full year, to

1648
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 1: be honest, So I think I can if I haven't

1649
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:34,760
Speaker 1: in the tank. I just want to get it out

1650
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:36,840
Speaker 1: the way while I still have college on my mind. Yeah,

1651
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:38,600
Speaker 1: you're not too far removed from it yet, so I

1652
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 1: think when I when I get to that point, I

1653
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 1: know I need to get a move on it. But

1654
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 1: I still got a good relationship with the director there

1655
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 1: at the program um with Parker and guys like that

1656
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 1: is that Florida, So yeah, I still have a good

1657
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 1: relationship with them. So I pretty much just when I

1658
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:53,120
Speaker 1: get the time before it, I'm gonna finish it up.

1659
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 1: That's that's something I gotta finish out I started it.

1660
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:57,439
Speaker 1: I gotta finish. Are you a good student? Like? How

1661
01:24:57,479 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 1: are you in the classroom? Her here in the meeting,

1662
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 1: it's crazy high school. I was not the greatest suiting,

1663
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:04,679
Speaker 1: but it wasn't a matter of me not knowing the information.

1664
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:07,960
Speaker 1: I just I didn't apply myself. So once I actually

1665
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 1: applied myself and realize, okay, well, this work is not hard.

1666
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:12,479
Speaker 1: It's just once you put your mind to it and

1667
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:14,560
Speaker 1: knock it out, you'll be like, okay, you have to

1668
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 1: take them the small lessons out of it. And then

1669
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:18,960
Speaker 1: obviously we know that GPAs Like I say this to everybody,

1670
01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 1: GPA is not a matter of how smart you are,

1671
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:23,639
Speaker 1: just about how discipline you are. Sure, once I got

1672
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:25,600
Speaker 1: over that hump of like, okay, these people really just

1673
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 1: think that I'm done. Well, I don't know this information

1674
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 1: really is like, look, no, we're setting you up for

1675
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:32,280
Speaker 1: these lessons in life. And I think overall, once I

1676
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 1: mastered that that lesson from it, I was a better

1677
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 1: suit in the classroom and in the football field too.

1678
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 1: So it helped out all right. So Lovey says that

1679
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:40,880
Speaker 1: you're still coming into your own He says that you

1680
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 1: still have your best football ahead of you. What are

1681
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 1: your thoughts on that and how do you think you're

1682
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 1: going to get better here throughout the rest of the year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think the same thing I've been. I'm a guy

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Speaker 1: it's a couple of plays in there that I feel

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Speaker 1: like I wasn't perfect on my technique. I try to

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Speaker 1: that same boat as he is, just because of the

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Speaker 1: things I know I'm capable of, as far as it's

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Speaker 1: getting healthier, making sure the body feels right, making some

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Speaker 1: my mind is right, you know. Just make sure technique

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Speaker 1: everything is cleaned up. Today I can be more efficient player,

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Speaker 1: all right, Looking forward to seeing it. John always a pleasure.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk soon. Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: that was. Andrey Johnson winning the game against Jacksonville in

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Speaker 1: twenty twelve. He's a Hall of Fame finalist. Now Folks

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Speaker 1: finalist comes out super Bowl Week. Frank Gore played with

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Speaker 1: Andrey Johnson at the University of Miami. They go back

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Speaker 1: to a high school and that's where Gore remembers him most.

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Speaker 1: Johnny Harris put this together. I'm gonna go back to

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Speaker 1: high school where we played him when he ran back

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Speaker 1: and kickoff return called it. I think two or three

1735
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Speaker 1: deep balls on us all the field. Great dude, very

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Speaker 1: humble and or do anything for you. And he like

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Speaker 1: a brother to me. Another one of Andre's teammates at

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Speaker 1: Miami was Reggie Wayne. Now Reggie's first recollection of Andre, well,

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Speaker 1: I'll let him tell you about it. My earliest impression

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Speaker 1: of Andre Johnson at the You was a guy that

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Speaker 1: came in with little words but was ready to work.

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Speaker 1: I actually host him on his visit and he probably

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01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 1: said three or four words on his whole trip, and

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01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:01,479
Speaker 1: most of those words was take me home. That's all

1745
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 1: he was saying, luckily from Miami, Andre did stay home

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Speaker 1: and went to the University of Miami and was a

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Speaker 1: superstar All American number three pick in the draft, and

1748
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Speaker 1: then he got into the NFL. And that's really where

1749
01:29:13,240 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 1: Reggie had a chance to see him twice a year

1750
01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:19,200
Speaker 1: and they met former University of Miami receivers. And this

1751
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 1: is what Reggie Wayne said stood out to him about

1752
01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:25,720
Speaker 1: Andre on the field. The one thing that stood out

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Speaker 1: the most about Andre Johnson playing the game was he

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01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:31,600
Speaker 1: was able to be effective with so many different quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: It didn't matter who was throwing him the ball. He

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Speaker 1: would always have the finishing product of scoring touchdowns. It's

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01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 1: Andre Johnson the Hall of Famer. Well, we asked Reggie Wayne.

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Speaker 1: Here's what he had to say. Andre Johnson is, without

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01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:44,439
Speaker 1: of doubt a Hall of Fame receiver. Not only I'm

1760
01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:46,800
Speaker 1: saying that I'm not being biased because he went to you,

1761
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:50,000
Speaker 1: but man, you knew when he was on the field

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01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:53,200
Speaker 1: that he was gonna make some things happen. Like I said,

1763
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:55,720
Speaker 1: didn't matter what his quarterback was, didn't matter who was

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01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:57,400
Speaker 1: out there on the field with him. He was going

1765
01:29:57,439 --> 01:29:58,920
Speaker 1: to get the ball and he was gonna make some

1766
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Speaker 1: big things happen. A guy that was not a teammate

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Speaker 1: but has often thought of in the same circles as

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Speaker 1: Andre Johnson is Michael Irvin because of the connection at

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Speaker 1: the University of Miami. In fact, you could argue that

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Speaker 1: Mike Irvin was probably the first great wide receiver at

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Speaker 1: the University of Miami, and then there were plenty that followed,

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Speaker 1: including Andre Johnson. Well, Mike Arvin talked about what made

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01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 1: Andre so special in the NFL. When impressed me and

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Speaker 1: him most about Andre Johnson's career with the Texans is

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Speaker 1: you look at all the great receivers that ever played

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Speaker 1: this game, the guys that will have that gold jacket

1777
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:34,679
Speaker 1: one day like he will, and you can look and say, wow,

1778
01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:38,960
Speaker 1: they had a quarterback. Usually their quarterbacks get gold jackets too.

1779
01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:42,760
Speaker 1: I'm in there, Jared Rice is in there, Steve Young, Joe,

1780
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:45,559
Speaker 1: Montana's in their choice. Akman is in there with me. Hey,

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01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:48,680
Speaker 1: Andre Johnson, that was a different situation. He will have

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01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:51,960
Speaker 1: the gold jacket, and he did it with guys that

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01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:56,559
Speaker 1: will not have a gold jacket. His ability raised up

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Speaker 1: other people to make them play great. So I'm Andre

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Speaker 1: Johnson and memories. Let's hope he gets into the hall

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01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:05,000
Speaker 1: the week of the Super Bowl. Thanks for listening everyone,

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