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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: A gorgeous young wife, just twenty nine, shot dead while

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Speaker 2: she's just outside her home preparing for a garage sell.

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Speaker 2: No rape, no sex, assault, no theft, So what could possibly.

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Speaker 1: Be the motive? Was it a hit? I'm Nancy Grace,

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Speaker 1: this is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 3: Gunned down in her own driveway? Who killed Elizabeth Barrazza?

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Speaker 2: Joining me Elizabeth's parents and her widow trying to make

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Speaker 2: sense of a case that seemingly has stumped police.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, very often we think, oh.

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Speaker 2: Well, the police aren't trying. They screwed up the scene,

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Speaker 2: they fill in the blank. But this case is highly,

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Speaker 2: highly unusual. I know this is going to pain pain

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Speaker 2: the mom and dad, the widow to hear what we

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Speaker 2: are going to play, but I want all of our

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Speaker 2: viewers and all of our listeners to hear this. Help

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Speaker 2: us make sense of who murdered this gorgeous young wife. Listen,

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Speaker 2: I hope your daughter, Howard, is she a lie?

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Speaker 1: Thank you?

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Speaker 4: As you said, le's have fathered.

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Speaker 5: If you like you's a lie.

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Speaker 2: You are hearing bodycam sound bodycam well, police have were

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Speaker 2: on their bodies and you were hearing Bob and Rosemary

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Speaker 2: Nellie as they are learning about their daughters shooting, joining

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Speaker 2: me not only her widow, but her parents. Bob and Rosemary,

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Speaker 2: thank you for being with us. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: And in case it seemingly has stumped law enforcement, I

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Speaker 2: can't help but think this was anything other than a hit.

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Speaker 2: But we are hearing you in the background. We are

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Speaker 2: hearing you, Bob speaking out. Tell us, Bob and Rosemary,

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Speaker 2: what happened that day.

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Speaker 6: We had been alerted.

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Speaker 5: By her alarm company that her alarm was going off

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Speaker 5: and they've not been able to reach her. We were

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Speaker 5: sort of like a second notification and we tried to

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Speaker 5: call her and we didn't get her, and my wife, Rosemary, said,

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Speaker 5: O get dressed, were gone, and we were in the car,

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Speaker 5: probably with us three or four minutes and drove over

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Speaker 5: to her home. That's usually about a fourteen minute drive.

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Speaker 5: I think we made it in like ten or twelve.

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Speaker 5: And when we got there there was a lot of

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Speaker 5: We thought, oh great, this is not Les's house, this

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Speaker 5: is her subdivision. Maybe something happened.

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Speaker 6: In the neighborhood.

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Speaker 7: And then an ems worker directed.

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Speaker 5: Us back to the house, and that's when we saw

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Speaker 5: the crime scene cape surrounding it. We got out and

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Speaker 2: None of it is making any sense to me, Rosemary

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Speaker 2: with me, Mom and dad, Bob and Rosemary Nelly along

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Speaker 2: with her widow, Sergio.

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Speaker 1: Rosemary. So often I get the same thing.

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Speaker 2: I get a notice that the home alarm has been tripped,

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Speaker 2: and I typically think, oh, my fill in the blank,

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Speaker 2: my mother, who lives with us at ninety two years old,

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Speaker 2: set it off. The dog, the cat, this that that,

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Speaker 2: that's what you immediately think, Rosemary Nelly, What went through

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Speaker 8: Well, we got the alert first on the phone, which

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Speaker 8: her alarm had been triggered. So immediately I called her

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Speaker 8: maybe she would could you know, accidentally set the alarm off?

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Speaker 8: I you know, you're just you're hoping that, okay, maybe

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Speaker 8: said it well, I said that she didn't pick up

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Speaker 1: This is what happened. Listen.

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Speaker 9: Right at seven am, both Sergio Barazza and Elizabeth's parents

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Speaker 9: and Elizabeth is an answering. Security team calls Bob and

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Speaker 9: and learn Harris County constables trip the alarm because their

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Speaker 1: Oh my stars.

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Speaker 2: Video the suspect's car driving by.

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Speaker 1: You can hear Elizabeth say good morning.

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Speaker 2: Then there's a few seconds of unintelligible conversation you hear gunshots,

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Speaker 2: Victim Services and Advocacy Crime Starvers Houston. Andy, thank you

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Speaker 2: for being with us. I've played this over and over

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Speaker 2: that sound because I know that is precisely when Elizabeth

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Speaker 2: Liz loses her life right there.

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Speaker 1: But what do we learn, Andy?

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Speaker 2: My job is to try to seek justice and give

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth all I can give for now, and that is justice.

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Speaker 1: What do you hear? What does that tell you? Andy?

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Speaker 1: You and I have gone over a million murder cases way.

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Speaker 7: In the only thing that I can quate. What happened

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Speaker 7: to Liz Barraza was like watching a scene from The

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Speaker 7: Sopranos where you have somebody that would drive up, get

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Speaker 7: out of the car, bang bang bang bang bang, run

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Speaker 7: back in and hit. I mean, it's an obvious hit.

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Speaker 7: Like you said earlier, she's setting up for a garage sale,

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Speaker 7: not even the false pretenses of trying to take an item,

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Speaker 7: pretending that it was a robbery, and come back and

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Speaker 7: make sure that Liz is dead. In my long career,

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Speaker 7: this is one of the most puzzling and frustrating cases

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Speaker 7: because you have just little to go on other than

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Speaker 7: It wasn't like it was publicized. You had to know

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Speaker 7: at that exact moment in time that Liz was going

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Speaker 7: to be out there in order for you to commit

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Speaker 7: this cold blooded murder of Liz. So I've gotten to

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Speaker 7: know you know, Bob Rosemary Sergio over the last five years,

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Speaker 7: and it's one of the most frustrating cases that I've

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Speaker 2: Guys, we are also showing you a neighbor's surveillance video.

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Speaker 1: Let's play it from the top.

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Speaker 2: This is critical and I'm surprised this can't be enhanced

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Speaker 1: You see the shooter walk up, he walks up to her.

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Speaker 2: They have a brief brief like hello, hello, and then

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Speaker 1: The purp leaves.

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Speaker 2: You know, another thing I'm trying to determine, Andy Kahn

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Speaker 2: joining us to write to victim services.

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Speaker 1: Are we sure the perp is a man.

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Speaker 5: No, we're not.

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Speaker 7: And that's another confusing part. We don't know if it's

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Speaker 7: or not, so that's another frustrating factor in this. But

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Speaker 7: you can see by the video how deliberate this was,

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Speaker 7: and the fact that this person is standing over Liz

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Speaker 7: know we've done everything that we possibly can to get

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Speaker 7: you personally, Nancy for putting this out to a broader audience,

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Speaker 7: because right now, grief is intensified when justice is lacking,

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Speaker 7: and sadly, justice is lacking for Bob, Rosemary surgery over

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Speaker 7: legion of friends and we're I'm not going to quit

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Speaker 6: But it's maddening.

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Speaker 1: Rob and Nelly joining me.

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Speaker 2: This is Liz Bras's dad, along with her mom, Rosemary,

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Speaker 1: To you, Bob, it looks to me like a woman.

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Speaker 5: I've watched this footage so many times, and over the

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Speaker 5: course of five and a half years, I've come to

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Speaker 5: both conclusions male and female it's just it's so frustrating

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Speaker 2: Well, it seems that the clothing is somewhat flowing.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you know what, let me go to Sergio. I

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Speaker 1: didn't mean to keep you waiting, Sergio.

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Speaker 2: With me is not only are not only Bob and

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Speaker 2: Roseberry Nelly. This is something very rare where the female victims'

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Speaker 2: parents join with the then husband searching for justice. Sergio,

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Speaker 2: tell us what happened that morning to your recollect.

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Speaker 4: Well, that morning just started off by Liz and I

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Speaker 4: started preparing for the garage sale. I helped her with

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Speaker 4: And when I made it to the home, I could

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Speaker 4: see that there was blood in the driveway, and I

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Speaker 3: Surveillance video captures the moment twenty nine year old Elizabeth

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Speaker 3: Burraza is shot four times outside of her home. Happened

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Speaker 2: Are we any closer to figuring out who murdered this

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Speaker 1: She's in the prime of her life.

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Speaker 2: Why why does she end up deead just outside her

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Speaker 2: own garage? You know? One thing I noticed, if I

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Speaker 2: could see the photo of them dressed up in Renaissance outfits.

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Speaker 1: These two seemingly meant for each other.

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Speaker 2: They say that they were both attracted to all things nerdy,

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Speaker 2: and that includes dressing up in different outfits always matching. Okay,

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Speaker 2: there's one a Star Wars outfit. They did so much together.

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Speaker 2: To Sergio Baraza, this is Liz's now widow.

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Speaker 1: Sergio, tell me about your relationship with her.

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Speaker 4: To me, it was a storybook relationship. We had the

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Speaker 4: most amazing time together. We met in college and immediately

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Speaker 4: we're attracted to one another. We started off as friends

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Speaker 4: We did a whole bunch of nerdy like comic con

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Speaker 4: the blue. This happened one night, yere watching Netflix and

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Speaker 1: Sergio. How long had you been married?

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Speaker 4: We'd been married for we were about to hit our

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Speaker 2: Sergio Brazza, this is Lizz's husband. You stated that you

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Speaker 4: My employees that I worked with at a construction shop nearby.

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Speaker 1: They were open at seven in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you know, Sergio, whether we like it or not,

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Speaker 1: Why.

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Speaker 2: It's not about you. It's nothing personal to you. It's statistically.

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Speaker 2: So the more quickly you can answer what the police

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Speaker 1: So please forgive me for seeming Kurt. Okay, but I

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Speaker 4: I completely understand.

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Speaker 2: I want to find out who did this to Liz Rosemary.

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Speaker 2: Is this your only child, or does Liz have siblings.

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Speaker 6: Yes, that is correct.

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Speaker 2: I have one girl, one baby girl, and my whole

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you, Okay, let me understand something, curly peel,

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Speaker 2: let me ask you. Kp RC two, tell me what

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Speaker 10: Well, based on conversations I've had with Liza's parents and investigators,

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Speaker 10: She went out, she had Starbucks, she was getting ready

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Speaker 10: They're planning a trip to Florida. So this is something

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Speaker 6: Nothing seemed unusual.

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Speaker 10: But after that shooting, news outlets immediately released that surveillance

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Speaker 10: if there was any type of recognization from that video,

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Speaker 2: Joining me now, Sergeant Michael Ritchie Harris County homicide investigator,

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Speaker 2: much for being with us. I know you've looked at

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Speaker 2: Do you think it's a woman?

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Speaker 11: When I initially saw the video, I did think it

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Speaker 11: Be either or just reiterating when I initially saw the

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Speaker 2: Back to Andy conn joining us, who has handled so

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Speaker 2: many homicide cases, He's joining us out of Houston. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure you recall the case of Marlene Warren. A clown

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Speaker 2: came to her door. A woman dressed as a clown

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Speaker 2: turns out, it was Sheila Keene Warren, the husband's lover,

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Speaker 2: dressed as a clown. Now I'm thinking about what Sergeant

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Speaker 2: Ritchie is saying, and this is not casting doubt on Sergio.

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Speaker 2: What I'm saying is what you mentioned earlier, Andy, who

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Speaker 7: Yard's health You know, Nancy, You're exactly correct. I mean,

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Speaker 7: without taking anything. That's what is so frustrating about this

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Speaker 7: and that's what I like, I said. My initial thought

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Speaker 5: So we're going on.

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Speaker 7: Five plus years right now. Crime Stoppers, along with Bob

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Speaker 7: Rosemary and Sergio, we have enhanced this reward now several times.

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Speaker 7: Right now we're offering in up to a fifty thousand

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Speaker 7: The public is our best eyes and ears out there.

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Speaker 7: You cannot tell me that this was just a singular,

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Speaker 3: A suspects vehicle caught on tape surveillan shows the shooter's

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Speaker 2: We're going to go to Sergeant Michael Ritchie, joining US

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Speaker 2: Harris County Homicide lead investigator in Liz's case.

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Speaker 1: Tell me about that vehicle, what make and model.

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Speaker 11: Well, one of the known facts of this case, which

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Speaker 11: watching several videos that we got from several different houses

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Speaker 11: We were able to speak to a witness that confirmed

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Speaker 11: That's kind of like a green and white color. And

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Speaker 11: I believe the years we were looking for was probably

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about what we just heard.

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Speaker 2: Straight out to Andy Conn joining us and everybody jumped in.

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Speaker 1: If you know anything about.

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Speaker 2: Trucks, which I assume everybody does, Andy Conn, there is

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Speaker 1: If it's a four wheel drive, the.

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Speaker 2: Truck actually looks differently and it sits, it sits differently

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Speaker 2: If you got a four wheel the truck looks bigger

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Speaker 1: To go through vehicle registration.

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Speaker 2: To find out how many of those are sold, how

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Speaker 2: You do it through insurance, you do it in all

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Speaker 1: It's four wheel drive.

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Speaker 2: Because look, there's so many things to distinguish it. You

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Speaker 1: Andy.

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Speaker 7: Hey, let me ask Sergeant Richie. I mean, I'm assuming

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Speaker 1: It was a hit.

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Speaker 7: It was well planned. We have the make of the vehicle.

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Speaker 7: What is the motive for killing Liz? Was it insurance money?

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Speaker 2: Hey?

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Speaker 1: Hey, what we call that under the law?

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Speaker 11: So when I saw this video, I initially thought we

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Speaker 11: we have a problem with a certain person they drive

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Speaker 11: that wasn't the case that night. That day, the court

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Speaker 1: They're very popular. They're very popular.

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Speaker 11: Well, in Texas, everything's big in Texas. That's more of

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Speaker 1: This is more of a smaller truck. Yeah, you're right, Yeah, yes, ma'am.

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Speaker 11: A lot of Texas, a lot of Texas guys and

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Speaker 11: found out, what I was told was that there were companies.

443
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 11: Most companies did not rent out those vehicles.

444
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 6: But we did look into it and it came up

445
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 6: with nothing.

446
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 11: Another thing with the video, of course, there's no license

447
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 11: plate visible.

448
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 6: Even if they.

449
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 11: Did have a legit license plate, most likely it's fictitious.

450
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 6: We see that a lot in these type of situations.

451
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 2: Okay, let me ask you a couple of quick questions.

452
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 2: Sargeant Richie. Did you try to have the video enhanced?

453
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 5: Yes? No?

454
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 4: Yes?

455
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: Did it work?

456
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 4: No?

457
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: Could you try it again? Says technology has improved?

458
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 11: Yes, we're currently working on that right now. Do you

459
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 11: have the bullets a revolver was used. We do not

460
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 11: have casings, but we do have some of the projectiles.

461
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 6: Yes, that we that we're shore.

462
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 2: So then simply put, yes, have they been entered into

463
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 2: the National Ballistics Database?

464
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 6: Yes?

465
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: When was the last time they were entered?

466
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 6: I would not be able to know.

467
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 11: That wouldn't be a question for me, that would be

468
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 11: for our the Harris County Institute of Forensic Sciences.

469
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 2: And also regarding the bullets, you're saying you had no shells,

470
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 2: is that what you're saying correct?

471
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 11: There was no There was no casings. Therefore, we believe

472
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 11: a revolver was used. A revolver does not eject casings

473
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 11: when it's fired like a semi automatic.

474
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 6: If you use a semi automatic with a magazine, it will.

475
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 11: Eject casings as you fire it, so you know, definitely,

476
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 11: semi automatic handguns are more common these days than revolvers.

477
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 11: So again, just with a revolver being used, in my opinion,

478
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 11: this is just another tactic used by the shooter to

479
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 11: try to hide their identity and who they are and

480
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 11: what weapon was used. With no casings being able to

481
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 11: be collected.

482
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 3: Elizabeth Barazza's shooter dressed in disguise and used a revolver

483
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 3: to leave no trace behind.

484
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 2: To Sergia Barraza. This is Liz's then husband, Sergio. You

485
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 2: heard me earlier talking about how you guys would dress

486
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 2: up in play as you refer to.

487
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: All things nerdy.

488
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 2: And the reason I'm asking that is because I believe

489
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 2: the perp was dressed up as well. I also think

490
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 2: the purp may very well have been a woman. We've

491
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: seen over and over, which I'm going to go over

492
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 2: with Andy conn in a moment video of Missy Beaver's

493
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 2: killer who has the gate of a female. But let

494
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 2: me ask you something surge going again, Thank you for

495
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 2: being with us. The pickup truck that was captured on

496
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: surveillance video nearby shortly before you left for work. In

497
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 2: other words, it was lying. The driver was lying in wait.

498
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 2: Investigators believe the shooter may have been waiting for you

499
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 2: to leave to make sure Liz was alone. Did you

500
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 2: have any sense of a car, a vehicle, a truck

501
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 2: in waight?

502
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 6: No, ma'am.

503
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 4: Whenever I left for work, it was just like a

504
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 4: normal day for us. Liz was set up for that

505
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 4: garage sale, and I was just headed to work like

506
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 4: a normal day. I wasn't looking for anything suspicious or anything.

507
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 4: I just headed out.

508
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 2: Tell me about some of the events at which you

509
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 2: guys dressed up. There's a Star Wars photos, there's Harry

510
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 2: Potter photos. I see what I believe to be a

511
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 2: Renaissance Festival photo. What other events would you attend at

512
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 2: which you would dress up?

513
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 4: We would go to children's hospitals to visit kids there

514
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 4: to cheer them up. We would go to community events

515
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 4: all in Houston area. We would also, like you said,

516
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 4: go to like the Renaissance Festival for fun, just all around,

517
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 4: just to have a good time throughout the community and

518
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 4: helping kids out. That's what we enjoyed and loved to

519
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 4: do together.

520
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 2: Did you ever dress up with other people? Do you

521
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 2: have a group surrounding you?

522
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 4: Yes, we were part of a charity group that they

523
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 4: have a community across the world, honestly that does community

524
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 4: events like this for Star Wars and the communities that

525
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 4: they're in, and we all kind of communicate and travel around,

526
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 4: meet each other there and and help each other out

527
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 4: through these events and stuff. It's a lot of fun.

528
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 2: I'm leading up to something about the charity listen, I.

529
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 4: Believe and I just saw on the camera these vehicle

530
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 4: pulled up the thros around I guess were there, and

531
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 4: then like I don't hear anything for a second, and

532
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 4: then I just hear the four shots in Hurst Green

533
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 4: and that's it.

534
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: Everybody can show you we don't want.

535
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 4: To come though I've never seen the vehicle over. The

536
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 4: only thing.

537
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 5: I can think of is I don't even want to

538
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 5: consider of that because it's we're a part of a

539
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 5: charity group.

540
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 4: And we're going through the little election things and there's

541
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 4: a couple of people that just don't get along with us.

542
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 5: But I don't know to come home and shoot my wife.

543
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: Sergio, what are you talking about?

544
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 4: At the time we were in the group we were in,

545
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 4: like I was saying, there's just elections for officers within

546
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 4: the community, I mean within the charity group. And with

547
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 4: as elections go, there's there's like discussions and arguments that happen,

548
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:08,479
Speaker 4: and at the time that's what was happening. But like

549
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 4: I said, I don't believe anyone in this group would

550
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 4: ever hurt anyone like this. This is a group for

551
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 4: good that does charity, that does such good work.

552
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 2: But immediately that sprang to mind, and I found very

553
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 2: often that in moments of clarity, we come up with

554
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 2: very very let me just say probative ideas. Listen, well

555
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 2: you you could put our charity.

556
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're a part of a group called the five

557
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 5: hundred and.

558
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: First Legion and it's yeah, it's a.

559
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 3: It's a scholars charity group.

560
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 4: And know about good I really think they were just.

561
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 3: Probative.

562
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: They're a hundred.

563
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 6: Dollars, but it's probably but well.

564
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 5: You know how that g had one hundred dollars a

565
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 5: care okay, yeah, a little bred block walks.

566
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 10: Yeah, we had a gold and everything.

567
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 7: Ridie, if you could be.

568
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 2: The so again, people within the charity seem to be

569
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 2: on your mind at the time. And what were you

570
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 2: saying about elections?

571
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 4: Like I said, it was a during that time. Every

572
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 4: year we have different elections to have officers within the

573
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 4: charity who helped organize it at that time.

574
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: Okay, so the elections for that.

575
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 2: Let me ask you very quickly, and I'm trying to

576
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 2: get as much evidence as I can and as quickly

577
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:34,439
Speaker 2: as I can.

578
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: Have you taken a polygraph?

579
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 4: Yes?

580
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 1: Have you taken one or two polygraphs?

581
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 4: I believe it was only one, Yes, it was one.

582
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: Did you pass the polygraph?

583
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 4: When I spoke to doctor, I'm detective Ritchie.

584
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 11: He told me I had Is that true, Sergeant Richie, Yes,

585
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 11: he did take a polygraph.

586
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 6: Again, I'm not the one that conducted it.

587
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 2: Okay, Fine, he took the polygraph. Do you know if

588
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 2: he passed it? Yes, okay, And very quickly back to you,

589
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 2: Orgio Baraza. When you're speaking earlier, you say, I saw

590
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 2: on the camera this vehicle pulls up, turns around right there.

591
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 2: I don't hear anything, and then I hear four shots.

592
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 2: You go on to describe money in a lock box.

593
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 2: Was the money taken? No, Bob and Roseberry and Nelly

594
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 2: are with us as Lizz's parents.

595
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: Bob, what do you think, Well, if you look at the.

596
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 5: Video where the animal shot and killed my beautiful daughter,

597
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 5: there's no time for them to take anything. They didn't

598
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 5: touch anything. They walked up, talked to her, shot her

599
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 5: four times, and then like a.

600
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 7: Coward, ran away.

601
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 5: And there's no justification in the world for anyone to

602
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 5: be murdered, but there's specifically no justification for my daughter

603
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 5: because she was a good actor.

604
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 10: She was not.

605
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 5: Involved in anything shady or anything that would have brought

606
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 5: her in conflict.

607
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: With the law. It's just puzzling.

608
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 5: It's frustrating news. It just doesn't seem real.

609
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: Serjian Ritchie. Yes or no?

610
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 2: Did you guys try to glean security video from red lights?

611
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 2: Video from red lights, traffic cams, other homes, businesses just

612
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 2: outside their subdivision to see the vehicle coming in or out?

613
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 6: Yes?

614
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 1: Where'd the vehicle come from?

615
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 6: A road called Kirkandahl that's outside the neighborhood.

616
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: Did you see that on video?

617
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 6: Yes? Could you enhance the video that video?

618
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 7: No?

619
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 11: The video that you see is pretty much the best

620
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 11: video that we found throughout that entire neighborhood. And there's

621
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 11: a few others that we got from other homes that

622
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 11: we released to the media that was shown on the

623
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 11: local news shortly after the murder.

624
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: Corley Peel KPRC two. What or do we know at

625
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: this point?

626
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 10: There's still not a lot because we at the five

627
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 10: year anniversary, we released, you know, the latest details about

628
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 10: the case that detectives are still searching for Liz Lizbro's

629
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 10: as killer, but still no one seems to have any

630
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 10: real hard information about who.

631
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: Did this to her.

632
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 10: So as a news that we can continue, you know,

633
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 10: bringing light to her case, bringing the latest information, but

634
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 10: as of right now, it still seems to be a

635
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 10: bit of a standstill.

636
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: To Rosemary Nellie, this is Liz's mother, Rosemary. What do

637
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: you think, Well.

638
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 8: It's very frustrating to say released. I do think it

639
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 8: was a hit. I do think it was planned. I

640
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 8: just can't figure out the motive.

641
00:37:58,760 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 3: The motive is not.

642
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 8: Something that I just can't imagine somebody.

643
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 6: Just doing this to her.

644
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 7: She's a sweet woman.

645
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 4: I mean.

646
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 8: I I just do believe it was a hit. I

647
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 8: told why they would have done this to her.

648
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 2: Guys, there is a fifty thousand dollars reward fifty thousand

649
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 2: dollars in the search for Liz's killer the tip line

650
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 2: seven one three two two two tips seven one three

651
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 2: two two two eight four seven seven please bring peace

652
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 2: to her family. I want to thank all of our

653
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 2: guests for being with us, especially Liz's.

654
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: Widow and her parents.

655
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 2: Nancy Gray signing off, good bye friend

656
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 7: A