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Speaker 1: It is Monday, January thirteenth, twenty twenty, donks, and it

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Speaker 1: is time for Morning Combat. Hello there, good morning to you,

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Speaker 1: good afternoon, good evening, whatever time it is.

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Speaker 2: My name is Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 1: I'm the host of this programming alongside my Healthy and

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Speaker 1: Living co host Brian Campbell from CBS Sports and you know.

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Speaker 3: Back from the dead. Apologized for missing last week, but

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Speaker 3: I had a refuel for the new year. Pneumonia, no joke, Luke. Okay,

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Speaker 3: so care you have.

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Speaker 2: The folks an update. You got a clean bill of health.

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Speaker 3: You got a clean bill health. I'm back and we

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Speaker 3: have a busy January.

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Speaker 2: My friend.

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Speaker 3: Look, you know, last time we did this show, we

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Speaker 3: were kind of buzzed all because, right, this is how

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Speaker 3: we do it. But it's up to us to make

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Speaker 3: some changes in our lives for personally for the show. Right,

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Speaker 3: no gas stations, right right, Maybe make this show a

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Speaker 3: little less thirsty. All right, right, and I know you're

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Speaker 3: like the dog it's a dog show. No, all right,

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Speaker 3: let's get serious about combat. Are you ready for this?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: We have a lot to get to So it is

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Speaker 1: going to be a busy January. It's going to be

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Speaker 1: a busy February and March and certainly April and beyond.

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Speaker 1: This is our first show of twenty twenty, so without

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Speaker 1: further do Brian Campbell, let us kick things off here.

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Speaker 1: Topic one this Saturday is the return of Connor McGregor.

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Speaker 1: You have C two forty six the main event. Cowboy

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Speaker 1: Seronie will be stepping up to the plate to see

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Speaker 1: what happens when Connor McGregor comes back his first fight

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Speaker 1: since losing at UFC two twenty nine to Habib Nimer

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Speaker 1: got made of the question I would like to start

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Speaker 1: off with, Brian, I actually pitch it to you first times.

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Speaker 2: I'll like to go first.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I want to pitch it to you based on

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Speaker 1: everything we have seen pre fight, and we had a

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Speaker 1: conversation about this yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you disagree, but I saw Chuck.

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Speaker 1: Mendenhall, our trusty Steed here on the show. He was saying,

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Speaker 1: it feels like the sneakiest fight week in McGregor history.

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Speaker 2: I tend to agree.

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Speaker 1: But based on everything you have heard from Connor or

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Speaker 1: people say about Connor who are somewhat in the know,

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Speaker 1: what what kind of Connor are you expecting?

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Speaker 2: Do you believe that the King is back.

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Speaker 1: What have you been able to ask ascertain given the

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Speaker 1: amount of information that has been out there, I.

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Speaker 3: Believe we're going to get the closest thing to the

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Speaker 3: King being back at thirty one years old, coming off

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Speaker 3: of such a long layoff, which does disaster to the

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Speaker 3: idea of the kind of fighter he is, somebody who

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Speaker 3: relies on technique, rhythm, timing, and needs to be busy.

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Speaker 3: Why was he so unbelievable in twenty fifteen and sixteen?

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Speaker 3: He thought three times both years, and he was sharp,

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Speaker 3: and he was ready, and he was there taking off

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Speaker 3: the kind of break that he did one fight in

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Speaker 3: three years. Certainly, no matter what you think about UFC

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Speaker 3: two twenty nine, that's not not one hundred percent Prime Connor,

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Speaker 3: And that's sort of been the theme heading into this fight,

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Speaker 3: is the King back. I don't know if the King

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Speaker 3: can ever be the King again. That's something that can

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Speaker 3: really only be answered, not just Saturday night, but the

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Speaker 3: next few fights, especially if he can fight three times

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Speaker 3: this year, which is his goal. But I think if

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Speaker 3: you can gain anything from tone, and I'm really pointing

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Speaker 3: at that Mac Life interview. You know, yes it's an

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Speaker 3: in house interview, but you really got a first chance

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Speaker 3: to get up close and personal with him. Something to

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Speaker 3: you're in Chuck's point of why this fight may not

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Speaker 3: have this feeling of buzz, as if like a ship's

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Speaker 3: about to crash into us. Well, they didn't do a

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Speaker 3: public press conference, right, They didn't do any kind of

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Speaker 3: media tours, maybe because of the sexual assault stuff, so

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Speaker 3: coming so close to the holidays, it's kind of just

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Speaker 3: parachuted in right now. It's gonna be massive fight night.

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Speaker 3: It's probably gonna do monster business. All of our websites

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Speaker 3: that covered are gonna do monster business. But the idea

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Speaker 3: of is can the King still be the King? I

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Speaker 3: have liked what I've heard from him. I have liked

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Speaker 3: the huts puck coming out of him. If I can

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Speaker 3: say one thing about the build of two twenty nine,

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Speaker 3: it was unlike any other fight build we'd ever seen

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Speaker 3: break the pay per view record. It did only fight

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Speaker 3: on pay per view, but It was a and I'm

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Speaker 3: specifically referring to Connor in that Radio City Music Hall

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Speaker 3: with Habib. It was just a zero to sixty Connor.

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Speaker 3: It was like a go for the throw in every comment, Connor,

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Speaker 3: go after everything. It wasn't that full on confidence show

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Speaker 3: voting Connor from the Aldo build, from the first Das build.

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Speaker 3: I think I'm hearing a little bit more of that.

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Speaker 3: And if you want to do cut and paste math,

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Speaker 3: and you're hearing John Cavanaugh and them say, look, we've

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Speaker 3: potential disaster that was that Habib camp. If you put

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Speaker 3: Connor McGregor that starts on Saturday Night.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm of a few different minds on this.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the one hand I've talked about it before.

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Speaker 1: People always have these questions, how good is Connor striking?

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Speaker 1: How good is his ground game? You talk to his critics,

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Speaker 1: they'll tell you he's some kind of fraud who has

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Speaker 1: pulled a magician's trick. Everybody you talk to his camp,

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Speaker 1: his inner circle, and they make him sound like he's

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Speaker 1: a North Korean dictator. He gets, you know, eighteen holes

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Speaker 1: very hard to get an understanding of things. But here's

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Speaker 1: what I would say in terms of the good side

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Speaker 1: that Connor is essentially running his camp, and I've talked

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Speaker 1: tell me that's been the case maybe for a little while,

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Speaker 1: so it may not be new. And I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: that will cost him against Serone. I just think against

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Speaker 2: So that part wasn't great. But I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 1: At one seventy there are some interesting questions that we'll

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Speaker 3: Do He's humbled he's legitimately humbled, and that's why, right.

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Speaker 2: But that's a good thing.

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Speaker 1: I think he may go out and beat Serone and

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Speaker 1: back to where we were. And I do think he

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Speaker 1: reserves animosity for the Kabibes of the world, maybe justin Gage's,

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Speaker 1: But in the case of Seroni, I'm liking what I'm

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Speaker 1: hearing in the sense that it seems very planned, it

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Speaker 1: seems very thoughtful. We talked about it when he was

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Speaker 1: a Justin choice or a Sereni choice, what was the

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Speaker 2: The Seroni fight, I think is the better one.

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Speaker 1: Everyone has been kind of alarmed by Connor that he's

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Speaker 1: been reserved. I have to tell you I am heartened

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Speaker 1: by that. But here's the even better news. Let's assume

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Speaker 1: for just a second, Brian Campbell, that the peak Connor

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Speaker 1: McGregor was UFC two O five against Eddie Alvarez. I

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Speaker 1: think that's the best I've ever seen him. Maybe you disagree.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that's the best you've ever seen Connor?

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Speaker 2: The thirteen seconds against Alibis.

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Speaker 3: I'll talk about the Connor magic a lot. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: But imagine you didn't know anything about it, but you

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Speaker 1: and not because Serroni is some chump, but because the

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Speaker 1: his focus, he said before, was achieving certain benchmarks. I

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Speaker 1: ring the sponge dry. How good can I actually be?

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Speaker 1: I don't even think he needs to go for that goal.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. I think the new benchmark is in my mind,

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Speaker 3: So does that mean if he loses this fight, we

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Speaker 3: happen next to all that? But he certainly had a

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Speaker 3: weird spot. Only thirty one years old, not that far

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Speaker 3: He's not that far from us going well, he's one

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Speaker 3: dimensional now, he's always been one dimensional. Yeah, he had

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Speaker 3: But now let's just cash him out a few times

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Speaker 3: going to go? He could end up becoming legitimately one

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Speaker 3: not piece of the ownership in the UFC. You're not

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Speaker 3: getting that, brother, all right. You were top of them

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Speaker 3: how much MMA has evolved and change while he's been gone,

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Speaker 3: and potentially doing that at one seventy. Now, I told

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Speaker 3: and showing you round by roun Well, I was winning

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Speaker 3: That's off, But I think to a certain degree, any fighter,

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Speaker 1: But the point being is this, you have seen the

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Speaker 1: The question has always been, is Connor really that good?

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Speaker 1: Tensions more like just skepticism. You're like one seventy kamaru usman,

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Speaker 1: You're most like, dude, You're you're sounding delusion. He always

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Speaker 2: So if he can go and achieve.

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Speaker 3: Some of the heights of his and that's the way

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Speaker 3: I'm wrong when I originally said, you're doing this Cowboy

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Speaker 3: year when Dad Cowboy was rising and trying to get

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Speaker 3: because you can talk me into fifty to fifty. You

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Speaker 3: gas tank. Outside of that one fight at UFC two

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Speaker 3: to happen. Yeah, it's such a precurious spot. Yeh, Star

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Speaker 3: Power White's looking for whether he loses next six fights

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Speaker 3: every time he fights, we're gonna just like we watch

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Speaker 3: he can have a second career. I mean the great ones,

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Speaker 1: Right. Is he an all time greater? Was he just

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Speaker 2: Right? All right?

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Speaker 1: But just to say Brian Campbell, there are probably, and

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Speaker 1: zero sum game. But that being said, Brian Campbell, I

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Speaker 1: What is the one factor you think at the end

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Speaker 1: it's one hundred and seventy pounds, would be well, what

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Speaker 1: But I don't know if that extra power from the

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Speaker 2: I mean top of the food.

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Speaker 3: So the punch combination to take out Eddie, it wasn't

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Speaker 1: But he can hurt yet, but he's and he's accurate,

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Speaker 2: He won one of them, he rocked him in both.

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Speaker 1: And here's why you look at some of the power

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Speaker 1: So to me, it's like, do I think that Connor

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Speaker 1: Do I think he'll be able to implement his game early?

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Speaker 3: Do I think he.

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Speaker 1: Has the power punching Brian Campbell? I think that he does.

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Speaker 1: But there's a little part of me that's like, this

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Speaker 3: What happens if the fight goes past one round? If

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Speaker 3: I can get myself tuned in in where I need

437
00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,000
Speaker 3: to be with consistency, I'm just better than these guys.

438
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Speaker 3: I also believe that. But what happens when those two

439
00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,080
Speaker 3: worlds collide at the end of round three, that's where

440
00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,000
Speaker 3: I don't know exactly what this fight will look like

441
00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,320
Speaker 3: certainly the default nature says the longer this fight goes,

442
00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,920
Speaker 3: it certainly does not favor Connor. But can Cowboy utilize

443
00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,080
Speaker 3: his strengths that he actually has on the ground? Will

444
00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,159
Speaker 3: he try to take it there? There's so many unknowns right,

445
00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:16,480
Speaker 3: So for.

446
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Speaker 1: Me, the argument about like, as a general rule, you're

447
00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,120
Speaker 1: looking at two fighters, You're trying to figure out who's

448
00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:22,479
Speaker 1: gonna win.

449
00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:22,720
Speaker 2: Here.

450
00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,320
Speaker 1: This won't always help you. There will be many times

451
00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,800
Speaker 1: where this is not the case. Ray Mercer knocked out

452
00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,520
Speaker 1: Tim Silvia right okay in MMA, but the reality like

453
00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,200
Speaker 1: maybe it was a boxing fight with them. I don't

454
00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:34,280
Speaker 1: change the m at the last time.

455
00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:35,720
Speaker 2: I can't remember the rules anymore.

456
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Speaker 1: But the point being is this skills win fights, and

457
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Speaker 1: in general, the person with more skills somebody had a

458
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Speaker 1: polished level, should be able to beat the person who

459
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Speaker 1: has less skills.

460
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Speaker 2: But here's the reality.

461
00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,600
Speaker 1: Was Jose Aldo more skilled, well rounded wise than Connor McGregor.

462
00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,520
Speaker 1: There's no doubt he was a world level brown belt

463
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Speaker 1: before he even got to black belt.

464
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Speaker 2: Connor, I think it was a purple or a brown belt.

465
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Speaker 1: On the ground, he was automatically better on the ground,

466
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Speaker 1: was better defensive wrestling. Was Eddie Alvarez a better overall

467
00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,080
Speaker 1: fighter than Connor McGregor in terms of his wrestling his submissions?

468
00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:06,119
Speaker 2: I would argue that he was.

469
00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,240
Speaker 1: Connor consistently finds himself in places where many of his

470
00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,280
Speaker 1: opposition are certainly more well rounded. It just doesn't matter,

471
00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,840
Speaker 1: because he finds ways to contain the game around his

472
00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,200
Speaker 1: skill sets to the point where he's always keeping that

473
00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,760
Speaker 1: imbalance rather than there being a general imbalance. He defines

474
00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,479
Speaker 1: the fight typically anyway, not against a babe where he couldn't.

475
00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,160
Speaker 1: He defines it in such a way where your relative

476
00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:32,680
Speaker 1: advantages don't match his absolute advantage in this one particular area.

477
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Speaker 2: So the question is whether that will happen.

478
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Speaker 1: I think if it goes past round three, well then

479
00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,760
Speaker 1: it becomes a different debate Connor's lack of relative ability

480
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Speaker 1: in terms of those other dimensions that cowboy has. I

481
00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:45,920
Speaker 1: think it will be fully relevant, but early it just historically.

482
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Speaker 2: In McGregor fights has not been the case. This is

483
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Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

484
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Speaker 1: If past his prologue, Connor McGregor should not lose this fight.

485
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Speaker 1: So if he does, that's a horrible sign, which brings

486
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Speaker 1: me now to my third question, If I may, Brian Campbell,

487
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Speaker 1: Let's go through it for both guys. What happens for

488
00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,800
Speaker 1: McGregor and the sport and the UFC if he wins

489
00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:09,719
Speaker 1: or loses, same question for SERRONI we start, however, with Connor.

490
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Speaker 1: If Connor wins, what does it do for him? What

491
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Speaker 1: was it due for UFC? Was it due for the future?

492
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Speaker 3: Business wise? Connor wise? Obviously a win is huge. You

493
00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,399
Speaker 3: can certainly make a great claim that this fight is

494
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Speaker 3: set up to give him that victory. It's a guy

495
00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:24,960
Speaker 3: with a name that he can sell, but a guy

496
00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,080
Speaker 3: he can be, and in theory should be. If he wins,

497
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Speaker 3: he starts what I think will be a three fight

498
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Speaker 3: year and it'll be a progression into monster pay per

499
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Speaker 3: view record type fights, either against a Beibe, either against

500
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Speaker 3: Jorge Masvidal. A win here, though, is so important. Like

501
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Speaker 3: I said, when you're at that crossroads, are you going

502
00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,000
Speaker 3: to be the journeyman celebrity fighter or are you going

503
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,120
Speaker 3: down the road of getting back in that top ten

504
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,320
Speaker 3: pound for pound and getting back in being a title

505
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Speaker 3: contender in multiple divisions. His next fight, if he beats Cowboy,

506
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,159
Speaker 3: will be the biggest fight you can make in the

507
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,560
Speaker 3: sport that sums it up alone and sort of what's

508
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Speaker 3: at stake and where Connor would go. It would really

509
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Speaker 3: be up to that point of you know who wins

510
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,639
Speaker 3: Tony Habib and which direction UFC wants to go in

511
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Speaker 3: that moment. Did you ask me what happens if cowboy wins?

512
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Speaker 2: No? No, we'll go to that in just a second. Let's

513
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Speaker 2: talk about Connor. If he loses.

514
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Speaker 3: That's the thing where it's like the word disastrous would

515
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,359
Speaker 3: not be out of place. How disastrous though, is key.

516
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 3: Some of it depends on how exactly Connor would lose

517
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 3: this fight. This was an action fight that went back

518
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 3: and forth and he had chances to win, and then

519
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 3: he loses a hard fought decision. He's going down a peg,

520
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 3: but he's not going to break neck. Let's cancel things

521
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 3: like he would if he runs out of gas in

522
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 3: the third round and gets submitted via rearnecka choke right

523
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,639
Speaker 3: where he had moments early but he faded again, and

524
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Speaker 3: you're like same O'Connor one dimensional. All the negatives that

525
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 3: we associate with him historically. I mean, if he gets

526
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Speaker 3: dominated and loses in any form, I think, yes, disastrous,

527
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 3: he would instantly go into what are we doing with him?

528
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,639
Speaker 3: Do we cash him out against Maza Vidal? Do we

529
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 3: get Nate written right away to do that trilogy? Do

530
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Speaker 3: we go down the line where he's only fighting the

531
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,919
Speaker 3: rest of the way the Nates, the Knicks? Can we

532
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 3: get GSP to care about a fight with that type

533
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 3: of stuff? You're really in that crossroads picking the other lane.

534
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 3: I think for the rest of his career. Luke, It's

535
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,399
Speaker 3: tough to put that much on one fight. But if

536
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,360
Speaker 3: he can't beat this version of cowboy Seroni and look

537
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 3: great doing it, which obviously is no easy task. But

538
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 3: this is Connor McGregor we're talking about. This is a

539
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 3: guy who has been at worst number three pound for

540
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 3: pound when he was active for the last three years.

541
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Speaker 3: This is a guy who broke every pay per view record.

542
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 3: This is a guy who claims Muhammad Ali like claims

543
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Speaker 3: about himself. This fight decides whether he just is a

544
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,160
Speaker 3: ticket seller moving forward or he's for real.

545
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:32,679
Speaker 1: And I really believe that how bad is it for

546
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:33,679
Speaker 1: the sport if he loses.

547
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 3: UFC did not have Conna McGregor fight in twenty nineteen,

548
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 3: and in large part to the ESPN deal, you have

549
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 3: Dana White saying this was our best year financially. Ever,

550
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 3: they're just a couple of years removed from a four

551
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 3: billion dollar sale. They're fine whether he fights or doesn't

552
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 3: fight again. I'm obsecure in saying that they could go

553
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 3: to a whole new level, especially with the vehicle of

554
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 3: ESPN promoting their fights, if Connor not only fights three

555
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 3: times this year, but is a relevant legit title content

556
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 3: and player. Like I said, if you tell me, you

557
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 3: can see the future, and Connor's going to lose his

558
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 3: next five fights, all five of those are going to

559
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 3: sell big and no matter what you get Connor involved,

560
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 3: it's going to matter. But he really has an opportunity

561
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 3: Luke to do so many big things that if he

562
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Speaker 3: does lose again, I mean, not really disastrous, but you're

563
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 3: missing out on a giant cash in potential.

564
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I would say this, let's talk about if

565
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Speaker 1: he wins. Right, If Connor wins, First of all, this

566
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Speaker 1: is the most crucial win of the three he could

567
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Speaker 1: potentially have. This is the one where you get this,

568
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: so to speak, monkey off your back. Now you can

569
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 1: go one fifty five, you can go one seventy. Do

570
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,479
Speaker 1: you want to go BMF? I doubt they give him

571
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 1: a title shot, but certainly he would be in the

572
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: conversation because he's Connor one fifty five. He might force

573
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Speaker 1: the combe fi like it puts you in the absolute

574
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 1: catbird seat. That's amazing. I also think his fan base

575
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 1: there were they respond to the boundaries of his own

576
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: imagination about himself. So they've been kind of active, but

577
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: not as much as they normally are. Like the Irish

578
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: is going to travel like they have been in the past.

579
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Speaker 1: Two forty six is not a sell a yet as

580
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 1: far as I know on the secondary market. So my

581
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: point being is they're waiting to have their own imagination resparked, rekindled,

582
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 1: to have everything to get the band, so to speak,

583
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: back together again. He beats Don serony. I think that

584
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 1: that drum beat goes boom boom boom for the next

585
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 1: several months, and I think if you can lose the

586
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: next one, that'd be not okay. But at the end

587
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 1: of the world, if you can win two out of

588
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: three on the year, you win two out of three

589
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:22,199
Speaker 1: on the year, that's a good year.

590
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Speaker 3: In the NFC. You're telling me he's he's gonna win

591
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 3: two a three and the loss will be either against

592
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 3: a Beban a rematch for the title ordo. Yeah, that's

593
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 3: this is where you need to be.

594
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Speaker 2: That's exactly fine, there's no problem with that it all.

595
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 3: But would you agree you get stopped by thirty six

596
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 3: year old cowboy at this point, you lose the cowboy.

597
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 2: It's a disaster.

598
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 1: It's a disaster, And I know Dan is like, well,

599
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 1: everyone's not given Seroney the credit. It's like, bro, you

600
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: booked him cynically, Like that's kind of on you, not

601
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 1: on us.

602
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 3: Like real quick. If Connor loses, he's fighting Mike Perry next.

603
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 3: That's that's where it sort of shows you the direction

604
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 3: he would get. So to me, this is my point,

605
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 3: it's like, it's not that Serrooni is some chump. He's

606
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,360
Speaker 3: one of the most decorated the UFC has ever had.

607
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 3: That is a literal fact.

608
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 2: But the style.

609
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: Matchup is the guy who beat Eddie Alvarez would never

610
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: lose to Donald Seroney.

611
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 2: And that's not a slot on Serony.

612
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: That's a compliment of the genius of that guy that

613
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 1: night in Connor McGregor. So if he loses, it's a

614
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: major reevaluation of the kind of potential that I think

615
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 1: he has probably some overreaction. I suspect, because you could

616
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Speaker 1: go and lose the first one and then maybe get

617
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: a nice rebound at the end of the year. We'll

618
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 1: have to see, but to me, it'd be a It

619
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Speaker 1: would force a major recalibration of who he is now.

620
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Speaker 2: You're right about one thing. The UFC has done a really.

621
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Speaker 1: Good job of limiting the volatility in their business model

622
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Speaker 1: by getting the guaranteed revenue from ESPN. They have a

623
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Speaker 1: guaranteed overseas revenue in the ways they'd never had before.

624
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: They get a lot of money now that's just contractual.

625
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 2: I don't think they worry so much.

626
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: And you're right, Connor has been gone, But it's a

627
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: difference between Connor being on sabbatical and then Connor being

628
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 1: back and losing that. To me, you're gonna get a

629
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Speaker 1: lot of people being like MMA's biggest star is.

630
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Speaker 2: Dying, blah blah blah.

631
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Speaker 1: New York Times was writing stories about this about the

632
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 1: star lack of stars in the MMA with Connor. With that, well,

633
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: he lost a number COMN out, but he has essentially

634
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 1: going back on sabbatical. So if he's back in losing

635
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: I do think it feeds some media narratives even it

636
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 1: doesn't match.

637
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 3: Right. Now, ask you a question you don't want to answer.

638
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 3: Is Connor more or less likely to close twenty twenty

639
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 3: in a boxing match against Floyd Mayweather, knowing the Floyd

640
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 3: and Dana relationship, if he wins or loses on Saturday.

641
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 2: Wow, that's a good question. I'll say less.

642
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: I'll say less just because I don't think Floyd wants

643
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: it anymore, even though the money, yes, but he's got

644
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:33,919
Speaker 1: other ways to make some money.

645
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,159
Speaker 2: But god, you never know. I didn't think it was

646
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 2: gonna hap the first time.

647
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 3: So let me ask you.

648
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 2: We we got to go to the Sereni part.

649
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 3: Let me ask you an uber cynical question about Serroni.

650
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 3: Is it fair to say when we talked about well,

651
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 3: maybe Connor's just always been better and as long as

652
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 3: he's you know, seventy five percent Connor in there, he's

653
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 3: just going to be better. Is it fair to say

654
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 3: that Serenie's ultimate weakness is that he can't beat the

655
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 3: true elites and that there's really not a scenario, you

656
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 3: know that, so that when you match up against the Connor,

657
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 3: he's gonna lose. Like Connor said to Ariel in the

658
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 3: preview of that ESPN interview that's coming up this week,

659
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 3: he said, I'll be Donald at at fifty five seventy

660
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 3: with the flu. Whatever you want to set up, I'll

661
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 3: always beat him. Is there any elements of that that's

662
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 3: somewhat sure?

663
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: So this is what I mean about the calibration of

664
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 1: Connor McGregor. If this was twenty sixteen era Connor McGregor,

665
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: that would be a very true statement, and it might

666
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 1: be true today. We just have to see on Saturday.

667
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 1: But you're right if you look at like, for example,

668
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: he did ten fights stuncer and he did at welterweight.

669
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: He went six and four in that time. His two

670
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: best wins, I would argue probably Patrick O'ta because he

671
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: was ranked somewhere around twelve or so at the time.

672
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: Rick's story was another good one. Matt Brown was around

673
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 1: the nine or ten mark, so those were his way

674
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 1: he finished him. Yeah, yeah, it was phenomenal. So those

675
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: are probably his best wins. But you actually look at

676
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: his best wins at lightweight, they're against much higher ranked opposition,

677
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: including alike went him most recently.

678
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 3: So you're not necessarily ready to look at that camera

679
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 3: and say he's Craig Bigiol. He's a compiler.

680
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 2: This is the point.

681
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 1: If he can't, If Connor can't beat that guy, the

682
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: guy who has lost to those guys who in the

683
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: top five space, Top four, space, ap three, it would

684
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: tell you where Connor is today.

685
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 2: Maybe not permanently, but today frequently. Because Jay wants us

686
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 2: to move on.

687
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 3: We have to talk about it. I'm not in twenty twenty.

688
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 3: I'm not intimidated by that one.

689
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 2: Let me just say this real quickly.

690
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: We'll go cut half of the conversation, which is to say,

691
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: what if Cowboys Seroni wins. So I had a conversation

692
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: with Brendan Chob about this too. I would love to

693
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,719
Speaker 1: know what does it do for his career.

694
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 3: It's the biggest win of his career, that's true, and

695
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 3: it's the biggest payday in theory on paper right now.

696
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm on, so okay, what is it? It's

697
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 3: not gonna get a title shot of it. The idea

698
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 3: of Cowboy putting that final thing on the end of

699
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 3: his career like bisp Being did in upset fashion, that's over.

700
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 3: That was last year's storyline.

701
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 2: It's over.

702
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 3: What this can give him though, I think is one

703
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 3: more massive fight. And if he got Jorge Mosbital from

704
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 3: this with the BMF title on the line, where you

705
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 3: can create the storyline cowboy always a brides maid, never

706
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 3: a bride, maybe you can walk away with that BMF.

707
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 3: It's one more big time dance in the main event,

708
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 3: big time money, you know, playground. After that, you're talking

709
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 3: about Wind's he going to retire? What other fun old

710
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 3: names are there to match against him?

711
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 2: That's no, No, here's what I mean, Seroni.

712
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: We'll say stops him inside too dramatic win, right, even

713
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: if he gets dropped himself in the first dramatic win,

714
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: does he become an overnight sensation, which is to say

715
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: Nate Diaz became a big star in part because of

716
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: who he was, but the dynamic of his win was

717
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: a big deal.

718
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 2: Kulbib now a global brand.

719
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: What does it do for the visibility and the popularity

720
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: of Don Serni if he wins via stopage against Connor McGregor.

721
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 3: I don't think it does that much.

722
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 2: I think that's so wrong. I feel like that is

723
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 2: where Dana White is right.

724
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: You need to tell me he goes in there and

725
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: knocks that guy out, which no one has ever done,

726
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: And no one's going to turn this guy into an

727
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: overnight star as big as Das, no as big as Kabibe,

728
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: no much bigger than what he is today.

729
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I feel like his celebrity has sort of

730
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 3: maxed out. I mean, he is who he is. He's

731
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 3: on the back of a Budweiser can this week, and

732
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 3: it's great. But I don't see him you know. First

733
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 3: of all, I don't see him winning a lot a

734
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 3: lot of huge fights left in his career. But you're

735
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 3: just saying that there's a pocket of Middle America who

736
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 3: doesn't watch him and main has never heard of him,

737
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 3: and they will fall so in love with him because

738
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 3: of a win over a questionable Connor coming in that

739
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 3: he will launch into a das like cult. Following He's

740
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 3: already there in the cult, not.

741
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: A das Like, something less than that, but something much

742
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: more than what he has you act like blue collar

743
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: America fully is cognizant of him, not exactly. The one

744
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: thing against Seroni is that you're right. He's a little

745
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: bit of a known commodity. He's had some great wins,

746
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: he's had some bad losses. He kind of know what

747
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna get at the same time, you can't have

748
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: it both ways. If this is his best win, it's

749
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: going to have the best results for his visibility, not

750
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: like Kabeeb, not like Diaz. I agree, but I think

751
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: I think the blue collar hero that he has been

752
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: would be times ten.

753
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 3: Okay, we got to take the pulse of the public.

754
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 3: Is Connor more hero or more villain entering this fight

755
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 3: and the and the pulse of the American public? Ooh,

756
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 3: I mean he should be should be a villain.

757
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 2: Probably a villain. But here's the truth about it.

758
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: Don't you feel like what casual fans and hardcore fans

759
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: do an extent as well, They don't love anything more than.

760
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 2: In America than for a redemption story.

761
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: If he came out there and like you know, knocks

762
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: out Don Seroni and then shows tears joy like I'm back,

763
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: I'm back. I think people would be like, you know, what,

764
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: he's learned his lesson. So you're saying there's still hopeful

765
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: war machine.

766
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 3: I got it.

767
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: I got she'd been sailed on. Now one a little bit,

768
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: all right, let's get on to this. Clarissa Shields scored

769
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: a big win over the weekend. Brian Campbell beating Ivana Habazin.

770
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: Habazine could ever pronounce her name correctly, So this gives

771
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: Clarissa Shields the WBCWBO Junior Middleweight titles.

772
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 2: It's her third weight class.

773
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: She becomes the fastest boxer male or female in the

774
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: shortest amount of time to collect belts in three different

775
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: weight classes.

776
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 2: Of course, one hundred and fifty four pounds is what

777
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 2: this was.

778
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: Now this fight was over, she gets Habazan scores her

779
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: first being knocked down. She took a knee off a

780
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: body shot, although there should have been maybe a penalty

781
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: there because Clarissa just kept hitting her when she was down.

782
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: But Clarissa scores at her lowest weight. She scores her

783
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: first ever knockdown. Now she didn't stop her. There was

784
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: some debate about whether she would, but Clarissa just dominated

785
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: this woman. There was nothing she had for her past

786
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: the first round. I won't say it was ugly, but

787
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: it was when we got to like the eighth, ninth,

788
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: and tenth round, I'm thinking to myself Howbazine's corner can

789
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: call this at any point? So the question is what

790
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: should be next for her? Let me tell you how

791
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: I feel about this. Brian Campbell because I I'm not

792
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: saying I've done a one eighty, but I've got a

793
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: weird feeling. I don't know what to do with it,

794
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: which is to say I normally hate these MMA versus

795
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: boxing crossover fights. Maybe the Vicgregor was good for business,

796
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: but it was a stupid fight. Emi, we had stupid fun.

797
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: All's well, that ends well. But then when Maswodoal wanted Candelo,

798
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: I was like, no, please God, Tony Now, yeah, I mean,

799
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: just no, please God. I mean, I love Jorge Maswoal.

800
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: Whatever they're paying him, it's not enough, but I just

801
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: don't want to see that fight. I want to see

802
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: Jorge fight other MME fighters.

803
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 2: You know the drill.

804
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: But if I had to ask the average MMA fan, hell,

805
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: even the average boxing fan, Okay, great win by Clarissa,

806
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: unbelievable job. She is just a marvel to watch who's next?

807
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: They probably can't name anybody. And if I said, well

808
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: what about Amanda, noonez all the attention perks up. Now

809
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,959
Speaker 1: I realize what I'm saying. It goes against everything I believe.

810
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: But I have to tell you, if you can't name

811
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: who should be next, if you can't name two, maybe

812
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: three people.

813
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 2: Who should be next.

814
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: I know there was this human as lady who went

815
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: on his own who called her out, but forget it,

816
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: she is gonna get Molly wafted with they.

817
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 2: Ever make that fight.

818
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 3: This isn't Leila League.

819
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: And my point being is, honestly, and I hate to

820
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: say this, but the most interesting fight I can even

821
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: think of, not totally, but basically.

822
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 2: It's a fight against the man in nunas.

823
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: What are we doing here, Brian Campbell, save me from myself.

824
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 3: You're right, but there's a way to do it correctly.

825
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 3: So here's the deal. I'll always give Clarissa Shields so

826
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 3: much credit because she's trying from day one to say,

827
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 3: you know, the whether you like the term quote or not,

828
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 3: which is which rightest women of all time? Anyway, she

829
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 3: wanted to be the best, and she from a very

830
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 3: early time, right she was already famous from becoming the

831
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 3: first double Olympic gold medalist and right when women were

832
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 3: allowed to box in the Olympics, so she had that

833
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 3: stardom coming in and right away she wanted to be great.

834
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 3: Three titles in different divisions and ten pro fights. Turn

835
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 3: pro at one sixty eight and I'm moving down to

836
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 3: fifty four. She's ready to fight and willing to fight anybody.

837
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 3: There's nobody that's the problem, right, Christina Hammer. There was

838
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 3: a story we could build. Hammer had marketability, it was

839
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 3: booked correctly. Problem, Miss Shields is just better than anyone

840
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 3: around her. There's not parody across the board, right. The

841
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 3: parody is that everybody is sort of seemingly below average.

842
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 3: In Clarissa Shields is a Legit is legitimately great. You know,

843
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 3: she's more athletic, she's stronger, she's quicker than them, and

844
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 3: a lot of this she's mean to and she has

845
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 3: the right personality interview. She could play hero or villain equally,

846
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 3: and I've seen her do it. Maybe sometimes she doesn't

847
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 3: get the knockouts because women's boxing is still two minute

848
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,720
Speaker 3: rounds and only ten rounds as opposed to twelve whatever,

849
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 3: But there's nobody left. And the idea of her moving

850
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 3: down in weight seemed to be her saying, Okay, everyone

851
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 3: thinks Cecilia Breakous, the undisputed women's walterweight champion, is the

852
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 3: one number one pound for pound. I'm gonna get as

853
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,439
Speaker 3: close as I can to get down to her. Break

854
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 3: Woos is one one hundred and forty seven pounds and

855
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 3: maybe we can do a super fight where I take

856
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,439
Speaker 3: all her belts and I'm the number one pound for pound.

857
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like that fight is So I had

858
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: Clarissa on my radio show on Tuesday of this past week,

859
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: and I asked her, can you make one forty five

860
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,919
Speaker 1: for MMA or one forty seven for boxing, potentially gainst

861
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 1: the fight against Breakhouse.

862
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 2: She told me she can't. She can't do it.

863
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 3: So here's the deal on that. And by the way,

864
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 3: break who's is thirty eight years old. I'm sure you

865
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 3: know she might be looking to go, yeah, distinguished, but

866
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 3: she might be looking to get someone like a Katie Taylor,

867
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 3: someone someone popular who's in the lower way clause. And

868
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 3: that's the problem for Cloris right now. All the names

869
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 3: in women's boxing are a little bit lower in those

870
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 3: weight classes. But when it comes to making this kind

871
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 3: of crossover, and again i'll give close to credit. She

872
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 3: showed up at the bit last UFC pay per view

873
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 3: card and was doing interviews with everybody. She's putting herself

874
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 3: out there. She's sparred with Cyborg in the past, She's

875
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 3: done those things. If you're going to do this, though

876
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 3: it can't be give me four months to try to

877
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 3: learn takedown defense and then I'm going in there against

878
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 3: the real greatest of all time in Amanda Nunias. I

879
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 3: think it has to be almost Holly Holm like where

880
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 3: you say, okay, I've conquered boxing and there's no one else.

881
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 3: Give me a year and a half, two years to

882
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 3: figure out what type of MMA fighter I possibly could be.

883
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 3: When you mix in the advantage that I'm going to

884
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 3: have on the hands and the fact that she's young

885
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 3: and a great athlete, there is potential. I mean, I

886
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 3: know Colley Holmes's a different story because even though she

887
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 3: was a long raining boxing champion, she had a kickboxing background.

888
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 3: It was a little bit easier of a transition. Although

889
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 3: I don't know if we always give Holly the credit

890
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 3: she may deserve for making that transition. I would not

891
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 3: want to be like you're telling me, a year from

892
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 3: now she faces Nunia's and just gets handled on the

893
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 3: ground in a minute and a half. Let her actually

894
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 3: commit to a full time transition to UFC. Then you

895
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 3: have a story. There's money to be made, there's big

896
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 3: fights you can make. I think it would have to

897
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 3: come down to what Floressa really wants in terms.

898
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: Of refugual Yeah, so I actually asked her. I was like,

899
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 1: let me play cink for a second, Claressa. We saw

900
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: what happened when Connor fought Mayweather. It didn't go his way,

901
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: And I had a few other ones listened where people

902
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: try to cross over and it just goes poorly. I'm like,

903
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: why should any fan believe that your situation will be

904
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: any different?

905
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 3: But by the way, Floyd was forty two and had

906
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 3: been retired for two years, Right, is her forty or

907
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 3: whatever different scenario than we're talking about Amanda Newness in

908
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 3: her absolute prime.

909
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Floyd was post prime at that point.

910
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: And her answer I thought was kind of interesting depending

911
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 1: on what she decides to do with it, which was

912
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: leads right into your answer, which was she goes, I'm

913
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 1: twenty four, I have time. And I was like, well,

914
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,479
Speaker 1: does that mean if you decide to like not hanging

915
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 1: up up because you'd still be competing, but if you

916
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: decide to make the move to MMA, you will just

917
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: maybe spend four years doing that.

918
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 2: And she didn't quite give me an answer.

919
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: So I don't know how to answer it, except to say,

920
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: if she does that, She's right, she does have time.

921
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: You can get these guys who are Olympic wrestlers, and

922
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: you could say, well, wrestling is a better base to

923
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: transition over to MA.

924
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 2: And that's fine.

925
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: We're talking about women's MA, which is still in development.

926
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 1: If she decides after this to say, I'm going to

927
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: go train with John Bones Jones and I'm gonna get

928
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 1: better at Greg Jackson, I'm going to take a fight

929
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: at you know, fart FC and then whoever blah blah blah,

930
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 1: and then slowly build her way up right, because folks

931
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 1: forget Dave Batisa, the pro wrestler.

932
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 2: He didn't go jump to the UFC. He found some

933
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 2: regional podunk whatever show, but he won. But that's what

934
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 2: you're something to do.

935
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 3: That truck driver a bunch of times too.

936
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. But this is the point.

937
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: That's what you're supposed to do. That's the bill up.

938
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 1: I also this about seam punk. It's like, do if

939
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 1: you really want to get better, if this actually really

940
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: matters to you as a fighter, you don't need to

941
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: start in the UFC. You have to start someone else

942
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: way below. So if she commits to that, that to

943
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: me is an interesting idea. The problem is that does

944
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: not guarantee you a UFC future. That's because you could

945
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: go down there and you can get absolutely smashed by

946
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: some jiu jitsu black belt who just takes you down here.

947
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 3: At the same time, let's talk about wait, she just

948
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 3: made the one hundred and fifty four pound limit to

949
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 3: win those titles. Outside of Kayla Harrison and pfl right

950
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 3: around that weight class, there's not a ton of options.

951
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 3: So it's Look. You can argue the other point and say,

952
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 3: if you're Clarissa, you would be doing that for the exposure.

953
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 3: For the look. MMA is a sport in which they

954
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 3: develop women, and there's paydays there right, more than women's boxing,

955
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 3: So would be just doing it once, even if you

956
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 3: know you're going to lose worth it for the potential

957
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 3: exposure and payday. I don't know. You'd have to you know,

958
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 3: you'd have to be on her side of the fence

959
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 3: to really understand that. I don't know if it'd be

960
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 3: worth it to your brand to go into a fight

961
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 3: you can't win and lose it again. When Floyd was

962
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 3: forty and retired a couple of years removed from the sport,

963
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 3: Connor was had the magic behind him. It was a

964
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 3: little bit different of a snare, even though on the

965
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 3: inside no one really thought Connor could win.

966
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: But you get what I'm saying, And is Daniel White

967
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: really going to agree to a contract where, even if

968
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: it was stipulated, where Okay, Clarissa, you have to go

969
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: fight in mma. First she goes and either gets hammered

970
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: from mount with elbows or gets their back taken and

971
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: choked out. That's not good for her brand. You could say, okay,

972
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: well they're going to go in a boxing match. Second,

973
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 1: is Danon White really gonna agree to a deal like that?

974
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: He's never agreed to a deal like that.

975
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 3: She wanted to moonlight being Clarissa. If she wanted a

976
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 3: moonlight on the side, go somewhere like a Heather Hardy

977
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 3: made the jump to Bellatour and had a couple of fights.

978
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 3: Do something where the matchmaking can be set up to

979
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 3: really give you a showcase to see if you can

980
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 3: do this and take your time to build to that.

981
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 3: It could be something only twenty four years old. Like

982
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 3: you said, I don't want to see her in some

983
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 3: one off with no time and experience against the best

984
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 3: of all time.

985
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: What she lacks is a worthy adversary is really the

986
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 1: problem that she's up against.

987
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 2: She's so good, she's too good for who's.

988
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: Around her, to the point where she now has to

989
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: look at other sports because there's no opportunity for it.

990
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: And as you pointed out Floyd forty two Calissa Shields

991
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: twenty four, it's a bit of a tough nut to crack.

992
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: So I have to see what happens, but certainly not

993
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: least last week. It was revealed by Jessica Penney, who

994
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: was previously an Adam Whitton and VICTA champion down there

995
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: for a time I believe, or spot Control water support anyway,

996
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 1: ended up being a UFC strawweight. She lost eighteen months

997
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: of her career for a prescription drug that she had

998
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: told you saw to she was taken, and because the

999
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: duy had a legitimate medical benefit and a legitimate medical need,

1000
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: they reduced her.

1001
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 2: Punishment down to eighteen months. She served it.

1002
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: She comes back, was supposed to have a fight, she

1003
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: twists her ankle. They'd try to book her for another

1004
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: one and she missed it because she had trace levels.

1005
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: She says of Stana Zola, she sent the contaminated supplement

1006
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: that she argues, was there to one lap they discovered that, yes,

1007
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: it is covered in this Apparently, according to USADA's own investigation,

1008
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: they could not reproduce the results that they found even

1009
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: this other laboratory.

1010
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 3: Oh that's funny because in the past when you saw it,

1011
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 3: couldn't figure it out. Like with John Jones, are just like,

1012
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,280
Speaker 3: well he can fight because we can't figure out the science.

1013
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: Don't get me started, Brian Campbell. In any event, what

1014
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: Jessica Penny's claims are is that now she has been

1015
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: you said, I didn't tell her you have to retire.

1016
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: What they told her was you need to sign up

1017
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: for a four year suspension. But at her age, she's

1018
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 1: in her iything a mint to.

1019
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 3: Thirty amount of money she's put in to try to

1020
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 3: defend herself.

1021
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: Right, She's already had to be a lyft driver, dog

1022
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: walker just to make ends meet. She's now asking for

1023
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: forty thousand dollars in legal fees. Afraid on go for

1024
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: It's incredibly tragic, So go first, What is your assessment

1025
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 1: on what is happening here?

1026
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know anymore where I should stand.

1027
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 3: I've never been sort of as zealous as you would saying,

1028
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 3: you know, not zell Us. Okay, but go ahead, angry, angry, Yes, irrational.

1029
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: I'm the one who's irrational early, surely, yes, Harry, Harry, Yes, Okay, personally.

1030
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 3: You get the point where I'm going here. I don't

1031
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 3: know if I'm ready to go extreme yet, and what

1032
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 3: would be extreme just going I'm sick of this drug testing.

1033
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 3: I'm sick of who gets better treatment over others. I'm

1034
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 3: sick of picograms. Hey f it, let's use what you want,

1035
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 3: but you got to get tested so we can all

1036
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 3: see what you're doing. And even that would be a

1037
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 3: crap show and people would be able to block in

1038
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 3: anything like that. I don't actually know what the right

1039
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 3: answer is anymore. I cannot get over though, And we

1040
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 3: said it before on the show that Yusada and Mma

1041
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 3: could be so down to the damn sand grain to

1042
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 3: be able to find that you used not steroids but

1043
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 3: a over the counterproduct that may have had a little

1044
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 3: bit in there. But in boxing they can go thousands

1045
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 3: of tests over multiple years and big time pay per

1046
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 3: view fights and have one failed test. So it's hard

1047
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 3: for me. Along with the Clown and Carnival show that

1048
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 3: happened to John Jones to have any kind of confidence

1049
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 3: in what you sat as doing. So when I see

1050
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 3: the store, I go, oh, Jessica Penny got screwed once again.

1051
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 3: What are we doing here? Maybe Luke is actually right.

1052
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 3: I know you saw it. Came back out with the

1053
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 3: sort of countering some of the things that Jessica had

1054
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 3: said a little. But I'm literally getting to the point

1055
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 3: where I don't even want to read the fine details

1056
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 3: of there. I'm just sick of this. I don't feel

1057
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 3: like this is an accurate representation of who's using and

1058
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 3: who's using what, and who's trying to cheat. I deep

1059
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 3: inside of more app to believe that everybody's trying to

1060
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 3: cheat to a certain degree. But I don't think you

1061
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 3: saw it as the answer, And I'm done trying to

1062
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 3: figure out in my own brain was that just a

1063
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 3: pictogramm or is that somebody that's clouding their system through

1064
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 3: micro dosing? Use what you want now, I just want

1065
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:56,479
Speaker 3: to see fun fights.

1066
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 2: I don't think using what you want is the answer either.

1067
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 3: It's not. I'm not that frustration level where I don't

1068
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 3: even have an articulate take because it just seems like

1069
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 3: such a large disaster here.

1070
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: It's the same situation we come to with every other

1071
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,720
Speaker 1: every other one of these Look, here's what's happening in Yousada.

1072
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 2: It's falling along the same fault line.

1073
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: That we get to when we talk about things like

1074
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: fighter pay, where you begin to realize, wow, I mean

1075
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: this is actually yes, you can make good money fighting

1076
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: depending on the circumstance, but what it appears to be

1077
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: a real imbalance and who gets what and what the

1078
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 1: benefits are. And you can find that fault line everywhere

1079
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: in the rebox situation, you know, show and win money,

1080
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: whatever you want to do, any kind of way in

1081
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 1: which the reality of the UFC's institutional interests taking precedence

1082
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: over fighter benefit. This is just the same situation refracted

1083
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: through anti doping, which is to say the following no

1084
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 1: one is no one rational I think is against anti doping.

1085
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: The big mystery or misconceptions I'm against it, I'm not.

1086
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: What I'm in favor of is a system that doesn't

1087
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: intentionally hurt the innocence. That's what I am not in

1088
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: favor of. So to me, yes, do you want to

1089
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: blame fighters for not having a union, because if they did,

1090
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 1: they'd be able to negotiate better protections, both in terms

1091
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: of a union that could defray legal costs, provide them

1092
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: with legal services, or perhaps you know, would write into

1093
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: the bylaws certain protections where I'm going to make up something.

1094
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: If one what our credited laboratory says that this was contaminated,

1095
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 1: one doesn't, we default to the one that does, because

1096
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: that's enough for us.

1097
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 3: What unfair that the haves have to get, that the

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00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 3: have nots have to get their career destroyed by an injunction.

1099
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 1: And in terms of doping and anti doping, these are

1100
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: negotiable portions of any kind of labor contract when there

1101
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: is a union. So do I blame the fighters to

1102
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: an extent for the situation that they are in. I

1103
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: suppose that I do.

1104
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 2: But this is the reality.

1105
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to keep saying it over and over and

1106
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: over again because it's going to keep being true. The

1107
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: arrangement between the UFC and USADA is designed in principle

1108
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: to protect the institutional interests of both parties.

1109
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:00,760
Speaker 2: In particular the UFC.

1110
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: They can claim and they might even mean it to

1111
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: be benevolent overseers of the rights and interests of fighters.

1112
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 2: We care about them. We want to protect them and

1113
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 2: to their defense.

1114
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: Over time, some of the policies have gotten better, but

1115
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: as you can see the same fault lines emerge every

1116
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: time because USADA does not principally that's their main function

1117
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: is to not care about the fighters. It is to

1118
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: promote an ideology, and instead of policies that enforce that ideology,

1119
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: the UFC is trying to protect their institutional interests. There

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00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 1: is no one at the table to represent the fighters.

1121
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: And as long as that is the case, so he finished.

1122
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: As long as that is the case, this is going

1123
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: to keep happening.

1124
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 3: Because it's certainly said this scenario Tom Lawler, scenario Jessican

1125
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 3: Dridge what a year before she won the championship, saying

1126
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 3: that she had to sell off her equipment to be

1127
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 3: able to afford training camps. To be like random stuff

1128
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 3: like this happening. Is should we get be on revenue

1129
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 3: out of the bullpen as union, Yes, the only way

1130
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 3: to go here.

1131
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: I tend to think so, but I don't if you

1132
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 1: on revenue is the answer, my man, let's ask Tim Kennedy.

1133
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: All right, with that in mind, we are done now

1134
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: with our top five. It's time for your questions for

1135
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: US is what we call it DMS from donks see.

1136
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 2: The donkey there.

1137
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 3: You've proved that graphic. I know you're very critical heir of.

1138
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 2: Well, I mean we're still at Guantanamo Bay, So what

1139
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 2: are you gonna do?

1140
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: Okay, first up here, I'll go to you, mister Campbell,

1141
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: I'll bring it from Dirty Das seventy nine. Do you

1142
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 1: think they watered down the McGregor Cowboy card to use

1143
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: as a future leverage against McGregor if it doesn't do

1144
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: as well as his other pay per views As far

1145
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: as money negotiations, I mean no.

1146
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 3: Because the model has changed in terms of the power

1147
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 3: that you get from becoming a high level pay per

1148
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 3: view producer. Yeah, he's the as the ESPN deal. I

1149
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 3: do get that. I think it's more of a reality

1150
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 3: of what they know. They don't have to load up

1151
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 3: this card because you're selling it because of one fight

1152
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 3: and specifically one man, and it's sort of the boxing model.

1153
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 3: But that's what it is right now. You know, when

1154
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 3: you have you FC two forty five three title fights,

1155
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 3: but Colby and camaraw win the main event and neither

1156
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 3: one really able to carry that or become a singular

1157
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 3: reason why someone buys that card. That's why you would

1158
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 3: load it up a little bit more. This is what

1159
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 3: it is. It's Connor McGregor. He's back, like one time

1160
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 3: in three years. He's the biggest star in this sports history.

1161
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 3: This is almost a smart business move, even though obviously

1162
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 3: I'm not all for it.

1163
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 1: The more the pay per views get water, I don't

1164
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: take the cynical view that they were like, Okay, we're

1165
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: gonna put a bunch of scrubs next to Connor. First

1166
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: of all, there are a couple of gems on this

1167
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: cardinalell to talk about later. But the other part is

1168
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: it's the opposite. It's actually such faith in Connor that

1169
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: they realize he doesn't I mean, he might need a

1170
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 1: supporting act in the sense of an aside b side

1171
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: main event, but beyond that, he doesn't need any help. Yes,

1172
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 1: I realized they made two five when he was at

1173
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: his peak and it was this huge car and blah

1174
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: blah blah. That was like the sort of celebratory orgy

1175
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,439
Speaker 1: of UFC strength. When they're trying to put together maybe

1176
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: three fights for him in a calendar year, they just

1177
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 1: he doesn't need any help.

1178
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:51,959
Speaker 3: That was still that was still Dana giving the finger

1179
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 3: to the New York State legislator being like, this is

1180
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 3: what you could have had, right, it's at.

1181
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: Fair point too. It was a display of strength. Connor

1182
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: doesn't need any help. And you know he got a

1183
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: good b side in in Seroni. Yeah, like they're gonna

1184
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: like we're talking about the relative lack of interest.

1185
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 2: I understand what the word is what we're saying there.

1186
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 1: Relative This is still going to sell a million pay

1187
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 1: per view buys easy easy.

1188
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 3: It'll be the second biggest pay per view card of

1189
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 3: the year.

1190
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: I'm telling you it will be, probably, But if he wins,

1191
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: the next one is bigger. Like if it's a beb

1192
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 1: Rematch or something or Masvidal, that's bigger.

1193
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 3: You have to understand, like, there's really very little people

1194
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 3: that could get you a million, let alone flirt with

1195
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 3: the idea of two million. It's Conor and nobody else,

1196
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 3: Like without that's who with outline, Yeah, without placing two

1197
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 3: legitimate A level stars against each other.

1198
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: All right, So no, they're not sabotaging him. They're actually

1199
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 1: being like, thanks for taking care of us, all right. Next,

1200
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: this from someone who says I am slave. I am slave.

1201
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 2: Uh do you do you ever see a situation where

1202
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 2: the UFC would be willing to.

1203
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 1: Cross promote the way Bellator and Rise, And did I

1204
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: understand dana stance on not wanting to hurt his product

1205
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: by sending a fighter over that loses chuckled down Pride

1206
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: for example. But could you ever see and under what circumstances,

1207
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: if any Dana White allowing such an event to take place?

1208
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: What are some matchups you'd like to see? What do

1209
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 2: you think?

1210
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 3: No, I would not see such a situation to take place.

1211
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 3: And the follow up question would be what would be

1212
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 3: the outlier in this In this situation if a star emerged,

1213
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 3: I guess equivalent to where Fador was back when Vadim

1214
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 3: was behind them in M one and UFC was reaching

1215
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 3: out to try to make Brock Fador, and obviously that

1216
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 3: wasn't like young Fad or it was or be what

1217
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 3: that is. It's almost impossible. So it would have to

1218
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 3: be somebody like a Michael Venom page in Bellator in

1219
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,439
Speaker 3: one or somebody like that. I know now he's lost

1220
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 3: in somewhat exposed, but somebody who could come out of

1221
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 3: nowhere and be a phenomenon and not just be a

1222
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 3: great fighter, but obviously be a marketing phenomenon where UFC

1223
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 3: would ever be entertained to the idea of saying, well,

1224
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 3: we can't sign him, but maybe in a one night

1225
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 3: situation we can deal with somebody else and share their

1226
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 3: star and put our best against is to prove to

1227
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 3: the world that we are number one. But that's not

1228
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 3: gonna even if that happened, even if you told me

1229
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 3: tomorrow the Tiger Woods of Mma is gonna pop up

1230
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 3: and he's gonna be with pfl or whatever. You know,

1231
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 3: even if that that's going to happen, it would have

1232
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 3: to be sustained success over a long period of time,

1233
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 3: which is why I guess the only since UFC really

1234
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 3: became UFC and completely cornered the market dominated, I think

1235
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 3: fad Or is that only one who really ever put

1236
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 3: them in that spot where it's like, we want to

1237
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 3: give a little bit of our soul to try to

1238
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 3: make this fight happen.

1239
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 2: It's it's all.

1240
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's impossible, because there are ways that

1241
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 1: could happen, but it is basically impossible to be what

1242
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: fad Or represented to the UFC at the peak of

1243
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 1: their powers trying to get him. There is no other

1244
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 1: organization out there that means what Pride meant to UFC

1245
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 1: at that time, And of course USC is a completely

1246
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: different scenario now. But I'm saying, you know, there was

1247
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: a while there where it was clear Pride was better

1248
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: than UFC. Then it got kind of debatable, and then

1249
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 1: maybe even UC pulled ahead. But all that time there's

1250
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: relative parity with Pride in terms of what they were

1251
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 1: doing and what it meant.

1252
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 2: I mean, when Fador.

1253
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: Fought Crokop in two thousand and four, that was the

1254
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: best heavyweight fight on the planet between the two best

1255
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: heavyweights period. It wasn't even a con contest. That doesn't

1256
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: exist really for the marquee divisions outside of UFC. You

1257
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: can get you can approximate in other places. I would say,

1258
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: if you got someone who's like a good MMA fighter,

1259
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: like two three fights, and then they got like pro

1260
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make something up and they got like pro

1261
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: boxing fights where they grew up boxing.

1262
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:16,919
Speaker 3: What if Aaron Pico had become there, if.

1263
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: Aaron Picco had like turned into what we most He's

1264
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: still my we'll see, but somebody who had done something

1265
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: in another sport outside of MMA to really boost their profile.

1266
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 3: And he was inexpendables. Let's say takes it back.

1267
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: To MMA outside of UFC, that's possible, but just beating

1268
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: other MMA fighters outside of UFC, I think you can

1269
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: be a big deal like a mom A Khalaedoff in

1270
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: Poland or you know, a Edward fole Yang in the

1271
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 1: Philippines for one. Whatever those guys mean there are what's

1272
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 1: the guy who Brandon Vera thought who was a big

1273
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: deal in I think me and mar Oh. Yeah, in

1274
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: any event, you could be something like that, a regional hero.

1275
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: But you can't be what Faedor was. He was a

1276
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: global brand at that time. I just don't know how

1277
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: you could do that. And so and then, by the way,

1278
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: to answer the question, Dan, it would never do it.

1279
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: Dana sent Chuck over to Pride because he thought Chuck

1280
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: was gonna win and he needed the visibility boost and

1281
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 1: the third party validation. But you know, you beat over Aim,

1282
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,879
Speaker 1: you don't beat Rampage. Things go bad, Okay, the real

1283
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: James Whitworth, says Brian Campbell. Yes, should the women's one

1284
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: hundred and forty five pound division be Why am I.

1285
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 2: Reading like an old person with the warders areage?

1286
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 3: You can look at that big screen right there. Jesus fuck,

1287
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 3: I am going blind. There's a picture with two guys

1288
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 3: with dogs touching over your shoulder.

1289
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 2: I know it's the and you have you have sullied

1290
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 2: this place, but it's okay.

1291
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: Should the women's one hundred and forty five pound division

1292
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 1: be opened up like let jesus fuck mother fuck. Should

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Speaker 1: the women's one hundred and forty five pound division be

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00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: opened up like heavyweight is for men and be set

1295
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 1: at one hundred and sixty five pounds, more signings, no

1296
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,720
Speaker 1: weight cuts for the bigger girls, and a fresh challenge

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00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: for the indo the.

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00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,919
Speaker 3: Bigger girls, right, yeah, I know, yeah, I called you fat.

1299
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 3: Look at me, I'm skinny, right, I know.

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Speaker 1: Theyre'ree hundred and sixty five pounds. Well they can get

1301
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: kind of big at that that way.

1302
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 3: But all right, here are you tickle? Is you go

1303
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 3: with me down this road?

1304
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 2: Here we go here, come to dong jokes? Sry, go ahead,

1305
00:52:59,360 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 2: go ahead? What do you think?

1306
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 3: Uh no, I don't see he's like.

1307
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 2: Opens it up.

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00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 3: I get what they're saying. So they were saying, is

1309
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 3: there a.

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00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,919
Speaker 1: Flood of talent pass one fifty five? Like, no, there's

1311
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: not Well in opening it up, you get technically more.

1312
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: It doesn't get to be fair to be fair.

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00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 3: We just had a conversation about Clarissa Shields. What if

1314
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 3: she made a full time move into MMA, And I'm

1315
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 3: sort of saying, well, if she just cut down the

1316
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 3: one fifty four and we're not we don't believe that

1317
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 3: she can cut down further, then she's an MMA heavyweight

1318
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 3: in reality. Right, Yes, So I guess maybe there should

1319
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,919
Speaker 3: be an open area where you say, if you can't

1320
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 3: make the more glamour divisions, if you will of like

1321
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 3: a thirty twenty five, thirty five not like forty five

1322
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 3: glamor division, who the hell is there? Right? I want

1323
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 3: to say no off the start. And I don't like

1324
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 3: how they said the bigger girls, Oh.

1325
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, are your sensibilities for bigger girls need love to rite?

1326
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 2: Look? Are you being an SJ dub?

1327
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 3: But you know what, I've come full circle in that.

1328
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 2: And atually likes the idea.

1329
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 3: I actually liked the idea.

1330
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 2: Think it's pretty good.

1331
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 3: There is no heavyweight in women's right. I give you

1332
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 3: tell Cyborg, if you can't make thirty five, you can't fight,

1333
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 3: right like if.

1334
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 1: You want to fight at one fifty five inside the

1335
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 1: one forty five to one sixty five division.

1336
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 2: Just make it a quote unquote catchweight in the contract.

1337
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 3: All right, that's brilliant. What was the person's name?

1338
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 2: Who said the real James Whitworth?

1339
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 3: All right, all right, I'm usually dealing with the fake

1340
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:14,879
Speaker 3: James Worther. That's that's great.

1341
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, who is the fake Oneah? Exactly?

1342
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 1: Here we go, all right from Infama's v all right, sorry,

1343
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: infamaz z with Jimei Mungi spelled wrong victory over the weekend?

1344
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 2: Uh?

1345
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: Do you see a Canalo fight in the future, sort

1346
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 1: of passing the torch kind of fight? By the way,

1347
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: my user name is pronounced infamous. Lol, I'm such a

1348
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: donk Oh wow, you're a little more than that. Yeah,

1349
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: first of all, what do you think about Jime Mungi?

1350
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 2: All right, time we're.

1351
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 3: Talking about Canelo passing the torch? Canelo is like twenty

1352
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 3: nine years old, right, like, so no, we're not anywhere

1353
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 3: near that.

1354
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 2: Did you watch the Spikelos Sullivan fight that was I did?

1355
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 3: You're seeing more wrinkles from Hommi Mungie his first fight

1356
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,280
Speaker 3: at middleweight, Eric Morales in his corner el to reblame

1357
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 3: my guy who's trying to turn him from just being

1358
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 3: a car running in downcoming traffic. And I like the jab.

1359
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 3: I like the some of the jury is still out

1360
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 3: because you look at somebody like David Lemio who took

1361
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 3: out Spicho Sullivan with like the first big punch he landed,

1362
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 3: but looks Spike's also a tough out uh in that regard,

1363
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 3: I think the real question here is is Haimi Mungia

1364
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 3: because he's on his own and now that he's at

1365
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 3: middleweight and the fact that you know Mexican, could this

1366
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 3: be a big fight for Canelo down the road. It

1367
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 3: could be, but I don't think in the near future,

1368
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,720
Speaker 3: because I'm not convinced Canelo will fight again at middleweight

1369
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 3: unless there was something giant that comes out of nowhere.

1370
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 3: I think he likes not having to cut down. I

1371
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 3: think he likes the speed advantages he has at sixty eight.

1372
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 3: I think he'd be more apt to make triple g.

1373
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 3: Remember this they did together those super I think he's

1374
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 3: more apt to make triple G. Or Demetrius Andred, who

1375
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 3: has the WBO middlewaight title, come up in weight to

1376
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 3: face him than not would be could be a long

1377
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 3: term opponent, but not nothing said he's.

1378
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: Twenty two years old. I watched Himon McGhee against Pike O'Sullivan.

1379
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: Spike had his moments. The the stoppage was late. If

1380
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 1: you asked me his corner. I know that through the towel,

1381
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 1: and I know he bitched about it, but like they

1382
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:06,439
Speaker 1: didn't need to send him out for what the tenth

1383
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: round or eleventh round, whatever it was. Here's what I

1384
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 1: saw from Haimi Mungia. I thought his power looked good,

1385
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 1: but not overwhelming at one sixteed, but I guess we'll see.

1386
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: I thought that Sergio Morris commentary was actually pretty good

1387
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 1: this time.

1388
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 3: Jo Mora is arguably, I know we got on not

1389
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:23,399
Speaker 3: yet show time, and he's at the top of this game.

1390
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 3: But Sergio Moore is climbing the ladder in terms of

1391
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:26,720
Speaker 3: great fighter analysts.

1392
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 2: Which was that Mungia was.

1393
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 1: You could see he was trying to work out these

1394
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: new skills, and sometimes they were there the jab you noted,

1395
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 1: but then he would kind of get lazy and just

1396
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 1: go back to what he was doing. I did like

1397
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: some of the combination punching from him. Here's what I

1398
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 1: would say, even if they made the Canelo fight. It's

1399
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 1: not a passing of the torch. If Canelo beats your ass,

1400
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 1: which I think is exactly what would happen. They're not

1401
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: they're not equivalent boxers in terms of not really their ranking.

1402
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 2: But just forget rankings, forget numbers.

1403
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,320
Speaker 1: You put those two guys together, Canelos gona knock his

1404
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: ass out and it's not gonna be very close. So A,

1405
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to see the fight from that.

1406
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 3: Stay some monkey does have a great chance, so I

1407
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 3: am you know, you know, okay, but he might he

1408
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 3: would get abuse.

1409
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, he would just get abused.

1410
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 1: But Canelo is just a much better, much better boxer

1411
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 1: and himself a power puncher all the way up to

1412
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:06,879
Speaker 1: one sixty eight as we've seen.

1413
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 2: So the point being is Mugia is an.

1414
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 1: Interesting, interesting, rising prospect getting a contender. Uh, pump the

1415
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 1: breaks on that talk and change your username. You know,

1416
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: when Jay tells me to go to the next one

1417
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: in my ear can't tell you. The way he tells

1418
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 1: me puts me on megatilt.

1419
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 2: He's always like.

1420
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: Next, like he's so fucking bored back there, Jay, Wow, Wow,

1421
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: I don't know what we're going to bring Jay out and.

1422
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 2: Now he's making fun of my inability to read.

1423
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: All Right, last question for you here from the Donks

1424
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: Yes Brian Campbell's Headwinds picture. How do you decide whether

1425
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: to watch a movie in the theaters or not? What

1426
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: I get you to the watcher?

1427
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 2: What gets you to the cinema.

1428
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 3: I'm not a regular theater watcher, but what would get

1429
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 3: me to the cinema would be something that I need

1430
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 3: to be a part of the conversation. So I need

1431
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 3: to have seen it. Right, I'm not a regular movie goer.

1432
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 3: It usually takes a Star Wars type thing or a

1433
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 3: rehash of a movie I loved back in the day

1434
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 3: that they did it again, and I'm ready to hate

1435
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 3: it so much that i have to see it to

1436
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 3: prove to myself that it had nothing close to what

1437
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 3: the original did. Remember when the Willy Wonker came out

1438
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 3: with UH with Johnny Depp, I was like, Oh, crap,

1439
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 3: I gotta see it. I know I'm gonna hate it.

1440
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 3: I hate it anyway. That's my point on that uncut

1441
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 3: gems a lot of people talking about it. It makes

1442
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 3: me want to go to the theater because I'm a

1443
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 3: Sandler guy, right, And it's this is not Billy Madison here.

1444
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 3: This is a good ass movie potentially with Oscar potential,

1445
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 3: although they got screwed. That is the kind of thing

1446
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 3: that would get me out there. But uh, I'm not

1447
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 3: you know, I've long since retired from being a cultured

1448
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 3: movie fan who cares about the Oscar Awards and goes

1449
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 3: to the theater on the regular.

1450
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 2: Do you go to the theater with a sign seats

1451
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 2: or just random picture?

1452
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 3: Dude, once you get one taste of the laying down

1453
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 3: in that bed, I don't care what other people did

1454
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 3: in that bed, right, I'm not worried about that. In fact,

1455
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 3: I lay my jacket down and then lay on top

1456
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 3: of it. Yeah, that's I mean, that's your hot. It's

1457
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 3: like being in My producer on.

1458
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 1: My radio show was like, I like to go to

1459
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 1: the theater where you don't have a sign seating and

1460
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's because you're not housebroken and you're a

1461
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 1: stupid person. And he was like, but I don't understand.

1462
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's because you're pee in the corner.

1463
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 3: And speaking of that, hold.

1464
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: On, I think you to answer the question, decide whether

1465
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: to do the movie theaters or not?

1466
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 2: What is the value add and go into the theater.

1467
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: You're in front of a tremendous screen. Experience the experience.

1468
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: You get the popcorn and all that stuff. Get the

1469
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: big seats right, get the nice sound system. I need

1470
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: to have a movie that delivers on those senses and

1471
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: those things. So Avengers Endgame, Star Wars T two Judgment Day,

1472
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: T two Judgment Day. But you know, I know it's

1473
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: on Netflix. But like a marriage story, I need to

1474
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: see Adam Driver crying or a big ass fucking screen.

1475
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 3: That's the problem is, since I've retired from caring about movies,

1476
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 3: the only time I go is like a date night

1477
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 3: with my wife or bringing the kids to a movie

1478
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 3: they really want to see.

1479
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: So I like, I could take your wife on a

1480
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: date where neither of you talk to each other.

1481
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 3: All of those are well, you get dinner with it,

1482
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 3: and there's a car right. All of those inevitably leads

1483
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,479
Speaker 3: to movies that you're right, don't need to be watched

1484
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 3: in a theater. Can you watch it at home? I

1485
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 3: want to talk to you about movie etiquette because I

1486
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 3: admit I grew up in Connecticut, but not in the

1487
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 3: movies too, not a cultured area of Connecticut. I grew

1488
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 3: up in a factory town. When I met my wife

1489
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 3: and started dating her, and we went to the theater together.

1490
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 3: We sat down for the first time, maybe like the

1491
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 3: tenth Theater or whatever. It wasn't like you know, date one.

1492
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 3: I remember saying to her, I'm like, this might be

1493
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 3: the first movie I've been to in a full decade

1494
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 3: in which I didn't at least bring in four cans

1495
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 3: of beer. And She's like like horrified, like what, like what,

1496
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 3: And I'm like, yeah, that's just sort of what you do, right, Like, yeah,

1497
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 3: you sneak the candy in there, but you got to

1498
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 3: bring the alcohol as well. And I mean I used

1499
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 3: to go get get real high and go to like

1500
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 3: mattin A's during the day with dudes who would just

1501
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 3: like drink beer in the theater and just piss right

1502
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 3: there from the seat, because you know, when you go

1503
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 3: during the day, there's like three people in the theater

1504
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 3: looking back that way.

1505
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 2: Way, you're literally not housebroken. I was making a joke

1506
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 2: about that.

1507
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 3: That's what randomly triggered it. I wouldn't do that, but

1508
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 3: I would, Shane Coyne shout out to you. I would

1509
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 3: hang out with people who would act like that? Okay,

1510
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 3: who would just you know, you never sit next to

1511
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 3: you you go. It's like my dad when he goes

1512
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 3: to the movie with my mom, he always makes sure

1513
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 3: set like one or two chairs down so we can

1514
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 3: completely stretch.

1515
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 2: Out, so he can just spray his urine.

1516
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 3: My dad wouldn't spray the roine, but Sean coyn would

1517
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 3: just let that thing out on the Well.

1518
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: I'd like to tell you, I'd like to tell you

1519
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 1: I have friends better than that.

1520
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 2: But this is a true story. They didn't do it

1521
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 2: in the movies.

1522
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 1: But I lived in New York City in two thousand

1523
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 1: and two and three and four, right, and back then

1524
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 1: they still had payphones, so they they were going away,

1525
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 1: and a buddy of mine, when he had to piss,

1526
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 1: he would not go into the bar. What he would

1527
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 1: do is he would go to the payphone and he

1528
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 1: would pretend like he's having a really aggressive conversation, but

1529
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 1: like about really important things. No, no, no, no, I said,

1530
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 1: sell no, no, no, not by cell. Meanwhile he's urinating

1531
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 1: all over the stall. And he ended up being a

1532
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 1: really successful graphic designer.

1533
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 3: But yeah, well, so what I'm trying to say here

1534
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 3: is I drew the line on not pissing in the

1535
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 3: theater because that's gross and barbaric to me. But if

1536
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 3: you were a single man in your and you don't

1537
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 3: bring you don't bring at least four beers into a

1538
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 3: movie like where I come from. That's just how that's

1539
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 3: the way we.

1540
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 1: Are going to seriously debate whether or not it's awesome

1541
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 1: to urinate on yourself in a well.

1542
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 3: You're not getting the urine on yourself. It's more of

1543
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 3: just a full on I don't care about life disrespect.

1544
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 3: You're hitting the back of the chair. But the problem

1545
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 3: is it's slides.

1546
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 2: It's also gonna spray all over you.

1547
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 3: It's disgusting.

1548
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, am I supposed to condone this or I'm not

1549
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 1: saying I enjoy that? Know your friends should have been

1550
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 1: sent to Guantanamo Bay. Of course, I don't endorse this

1551
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 1: drinking in the theater though that he should have been

1552
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 1: wreckedly fed the rest of his life. I mean, are

1553
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 1: you kidding?

1554
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 3: Wow, I don't understand.

1555
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 2: Here's the thing.

1556
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 1: I don't mind going to the movies high, but going drunk,

1557
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 1: don't you just forget all the details of the movie.

1558
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 3: I went to the Jackass movie and by the way.

1559
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 2: I don't get drunk off four beers. You just drink

1560
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 2: four beers.

1561
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 1: That happened you too, Hey, we didn't miss much. I

1562
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 1: mean you can always watch that one again. That's not

1563
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 1: a big deal.

1564
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 2: But like going high, it's kind of fun going drunk.

1565
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 2: You just never forget anything. You just forget it all.

1566
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,439
Speaker 1: I can't wait till next week's conversation where you would like, look,

1567
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 1: I shit myself all the time time.

1568
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 3: I've been in theater. Let's debate the maryor I've been

1569
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 3: to multiple movies where fistfights broke out in the theater

1570
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 3: opening night of the program.

1571
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 2: All right, apparently haven't actual Jack City. It's a good movie.

1572
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 2: Let's we have another question here. I did not.

1573
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: It's not screened from King Derek. Who you got tonight?

1574
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 1: Clemson or LSU?

1575
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 2: What do you think you're going to watch the next?

1576
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 3: King Derek? He sounds like a football player.

1577
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 2: He does you know what? Probably a D two scrub

1578
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 2: D two scrub.

1579
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 3: I heard he was a scholarship athlete. Uh, I don't.

1580
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 3: I don't have it. I don't have a take care.

1581
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 2: Do you watch college football?

1582
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 1: You know?

1583
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 3: I did you know? I worked at ESPN for many

1584
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 3: years where we had to watch every game, so I'm

1585
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 3: woke to it. But I I when you I say this, Luke,

1586
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 3: and you're gonna you're gonna clown me. When you begin

1587
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 3: to cover pro wrestling as a sports sport, you no

1588
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 3: longer have the time to watch actual sports if you

1589
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 3: want to be considered an expert. I'm not news for me.

1590
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 3: I'm not proud of saying that. But it's a time

1591
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 3: suck like no other.

1592
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 2: Luke, Okay that I can believe that I can believe

1593
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 2: for tonight.

1594
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 1: I got to tell you I've been big on uh

1595
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 1: I hate his name, but I've been big on Dabo

1596
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 1: Sweeney and what Clemson can do. But then you watch

1597
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 1: LSU and they just seem to be unstoppable. Have you

1598
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 1: heard their head coach in l s U? I think

1599
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 1: is a Mark Orgeron whatever his name is, or from

1600
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 1: from Mississippi.

1601
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no from l s U.

1602
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 3: Yeah No Tigers, yea death Valley?

1603
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 2: Where about his dreams go to d Like you should

1604
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 2: sing in a metal band, sir, you'd be pretty fucking you.

1605
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 3: Should be in Cannibal Corpse.

1606
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 2: He should be.

1607
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 3: He should replace that guy that went to jail for

1608
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 3: touching kids.

1609
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 1: There's no guy that went to jail for touching the

1610
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 1: guy who was mentally nuts. He had sitting in use

1611
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 1: sand dusky on bass.

1612
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no. He was committing arson. That's fine,

1613
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 2: committing arson, but he has mental problems. They replaced him.

1614
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:37,439
Speaker 3: He's all right, that's good, that's fine.

1615
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 2: In there now at the time on sprockets when we do,

1616
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 2: I've been good this show.

1617
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 1: All right, you've been great, all right, all right, and

1618
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 1: the most important news is you're alive.

1619
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 3: I am alive, and that's great, okay, But.

1620
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 1: I have to say when you got sick there, I

1621
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 1: was worried about my paychecks here.

1622
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 2: I was like, what are you going to do?

1623
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 3: Who would you have replaced? Who would you have brought

1624
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 3: in here to bring that type of intensity?

1625
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 2: Who would urinate on themselves? Stop while watching that? I

1626
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 2: don't know?

1627
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 3: All right, here we go. Have you seen this ship? Look,

1628
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 3: I'm a couple of weeks late to this. As you know,

1629
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 3: we span the globe for the good, bad, and the ugly.

1630
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 3: Certainly bet sports and beyond a couple of weeks late

1631
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 3: to this. But have you heard of this Senegalese giant,

1632
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 3: this wrestler named ruggrug.

1633
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 2: Umar Kaine, white gentleman.

1634
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 3: You know, the white gentleman has a kamura a lot.

1635
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 3: This is Rudegroug's pro debut and MMA a couple of

1636
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 3: weeks back. Is this the best way ever to escape

1637
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 3: from a kamura?

1638
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 2: Or what? Holy shit?

1639
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 3: Lord, get that trash bag out of there.

1640
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 2: Dude.

1641
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 3: He is yes, long, he's trying to dig his head

1642
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 3: into the ground.

1643
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 2: He's not very technical, but he's strong as shit.

1644
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 3: This was at are Ees FC one. I have no

1645
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 3: idea what that means.

1646
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 1: Do you understand how strong you have to be to

1647
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 1: stand up from this?

1648
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 3: I want to see this guy every night, every time,

1649
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:48,479
Speaker 3: every time he fights.

1650
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 2: You get that guy a real training scenario and he

1651
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 2: is gonna do. What do you have to be? But strong?

1652
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 3: Looking, Joe Jack?

1653
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 2: That guy is that is just that's unnatural strength.

1654
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 3: Oh my god, seen that ship?

1655
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 2: All right? Yeah, get him out of m put him

1656
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 2: in weightlifting.

1657
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 3: That's what I'm talking about.

1658
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 2: That dude is explosive.

1659
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 3: Get him into football something there. Let him let him

1660
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 3: hurt people. All right, let's move on. We're gonna go

1661
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 3: into an mm A cage. But this isn't sanctioned Mixed

1662
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 3: mart what kind of dungeons are you guys?

1663
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 1: Is that I knew who you pulled it from? Gribacca Hitman,

1664
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 1: which is composed I've always got this stuff.

1665
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 2: He's amazing. He loves this. Are you into the night

1666
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 2: fighting show? What kind of like nerd like this?

1667
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 3: Is?

1668
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 1: This?

1669
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 3: Does? This?

1670
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 2: Does nothing for me?

1671
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 3: And and Composa called this the uh the Derek Lewis

1672
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 3: Francis and Gandu of night fights. He said, there's just

1673
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 3: not enough action. I don't care unless they unless you're

1674
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 3: telling me in the head ahead of time, these video

1675
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 3: game nerds will die. The loser will be gone from

1676
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 3: the earth. That's a very Luke Thomas raction. This is uh.

1677
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 2: You got to fight to the death if you're going

1678
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 2: to do this.

1679
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 3: Even the referees wear an armor. Get this beat.

1680
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 2: The referee is wearing for what even I don't even

1681
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 2: know what the point is of wearing armor. The swords

1682
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 2: don't do ship.

1683
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 3: Is this role play?

1684
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 2: Like?

1685
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 3: Isn'tre a Renaissance fair?

1686
01:06:58,000 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 2: You can go do like, come on, do you like

1687
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 2: the renaissanir?

1688
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 3: No, they're weird, They're like they're they're they're the.

1689
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 2: Renaisomce fair every time? Do you want to see the

1690
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 2: Renaissance fair.

1691
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 3: I thought it's your people, the people that hate the Lord,

1692
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 3: you know, all the all the.

1693
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're different kind of people that hate the Lord.

1694
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 1: They're like the Pagans who actually think there's a different lord.

1695
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 1: So they're also all, oh okay, I also hate them.

1696
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 1: You've never seen anything grosser than your life than the

1697
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 1: stack of to try to, like go into an outhouse

1698
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 1: at the Renaissance Festival and just look at what has

1699
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 1: been left there.

1700
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 2: It's actually like looking at this fight. It's something similar.

1701
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 3: All right, back to real fights here. Let's go to

1702
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 3: LFA fifty five. I want to introduce you to Haley Colin.

1703
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 3: Oh my god, a former All American D one gymnast

1704
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 3: now fighting in MMA. And take this in the face.

1705
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 2: Oh shit, when was this?

1706
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 3: This was a couple of weeks ago LFA fifty five.

1707
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 3: Oh my god, hoof in mouth disease right there?

1708
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 1: Wow?

1709
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 3: Yes, hey, we see the We saw wrestlers make them

1710
01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 3: may transition a while back. Maybe gymnasts, maybe you know

1711
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 3: people I can kick like that, people that flexible. Luke,

1712
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 3: you remember your college days, right, yeah? Well, the thing

1713
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 3: is chasing the muff around, right.

1714
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 1: Chasing the muff, Oh my god, are you gonna get

1715
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 1: us fired?

1716
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 3: It's a nineties reference, stays and confused.

1717
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 2: I don't know if you though, yeah, yeah, here's the thing.

1718
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 3: That would get me out of getting normally.

1719
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 1: You see these ladies go into who is the lady

1720
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:17,480
Speaker 1: Katie Katinszarrow?

1721
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 3: Do you ever see again the pro wrestler now with

1722
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:21,560
Speaker 3: w W Are you shitting me?

1723
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 1: Well?

1724
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 3: She might retire, she's on the verge of retire.

1725
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 1: But wait, wait, she went from doing gymnastics to where

1726
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 1: I followed her, which was American nin we.

1727
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:29,599
Speaker 3: Here in the row rumble last year when she climbed

1728
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 3: up the backside of the ring post.

1729
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 2: And then this is not a joke.

1730
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 3: This is not a joke. Casey kittensaro is she's dating

1731
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 3: WW superstar Ricochet. I don't know if you're in on that.

1732
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 2: Let me guess it's spelled rick o'shay No.

1733
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 3: I was gonna say not not vincment man probably hired

1734
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:43,639
Speaker 3: him thinking he was getting an irishman. But really, it's

1735
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 3: the sense, Sa, this isn't real.

1736
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 2: How long has she been doing this?

1737
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 3: Almost two years? But she has some back injuries. There's

1738
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 3: there's like a false rumor that she was going to retire.

1739
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 3: Then she said it's not true. She may retire. She's

1740
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 3: she's okay, she's very small, but with that gymnastic ability,

1741
01:08:57,000 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 3: she's able to do very innovative flip moves using the

1742
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,719
Speaker 3: ring ropes and uh and stuff. So yeah, all right, well.

1743
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 1: It's either that or you can find MMA.

1744
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 2: You're gonna be a way better athlete thing.

1745
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 3: Yeah that take that, get the bottle out of my cage.

1746
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:10,639
Speaker 3: Look at that very.

1747
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 2: Serroundy ass catching them with the head kick as they

1748
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 2: back up.

1749
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 3: All right, hey, we're gonna roll on here. It was

1750
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 3: the holiday season, Luke, I hope you and yours enjoyed.

1751
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 3: Whatever you do. Virtual reality is gonna eventually, its gonna

1752
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 3: take over our life. Have ever seen total recall? But

1753
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 3: for now we got dunks like this trying to walk on.

1754
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 2: A but oh my god, Oh he must have been drinking.

1755
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 3: He gets what he did. That's a flat back bump

1756
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 3: right here.

1757
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 2: Yeah it is.

1758
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 3: He gets what he deserves right there.

1759
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 1: Right, he's worrying those at the oculus rift of the Samsung.

1760
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 3: I don't know, but uh, pretty soon we'll be having

1761
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 3: sex over those, right. We'll never talk to each other,

1762
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 3: be like the matrix will just plug in every day.

1763
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,919
Speaker 3: Remember when recalls like, I want to be honest.

1764
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:44,479
Speaker 2: You say it like it's a bad thing.

1765
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 3: All right, all right, when that happens, I will be

1766
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 3: one of the crusaders who take the other pill. I

1767
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 3: will free this world from this Luke.

1768
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I'm like the dude who was the dude

1769
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:54,759
Speaker 1: who turned on all the other people in the matrix.

1770
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 3: Joe pet Joe.

1771
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 2: He was like, I don't want to remember nothing. He's

1772
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 2: eating the steak. Yeah, I'm that dude. Okay, put me,

1773
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:02,639
Speaker 2: but you can use me as a battery. I don't care, all.

1774
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 3: Right, all right, I want to show you. I know

1775
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 3: it's the new year. You probably got a gym membership, Luke,

1776
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 3: trying to get that baby fat off. Here's a new

1777
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:09,759
Speaker 3: workout you think you can do. Check it out. Hurdle

1778
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 3: hop over there? Okay? Oh god, No, Taco Tuesdays? No war? Luke,

1779
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 3: Look at this?

1780
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 2: Are you making a Latin joke?

1781
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 3: No?

1782
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 2: Oh god, Oh my god.

1783
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 3: Wow that looked like it hurt.

1784
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 2: Luke. Did you make a Taco's Tuesday joke?

1785
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:26,680
Speaker 3: Did you?

1786
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 1: No?

1787
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 3: No, I didn't, but wow, Luke.

1788
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 2: I mean that.

1789
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 3: I mean, look, I don't. We don't. We don't want

1790
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 3: to clown people and have fun at people's demise. But

1791
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 3: that you're not getting ta to you're not coming back

1792
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 3: from that, Luke, all right, clams casino. Indeed, right, you're not.

1793
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 2: Oh my god, where's the moose knuckle thing? You're gonna

1794
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 2: say that?

1795
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't.

1796
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 2: That's that's too far, too Yeah, and.

1797
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 1: As it past the point of good taste is that

1798
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 1: we're doing no.

1799
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 3: Good taste here? All right, Hey, let's go to some

1800
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 3: full contact. I don't know what you call this taekwondo.

1801
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 3: There's padding, but watch this walk off liver Cake. Look

1802
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:01,639
Speaker 3: at the slickness on the NT. Just do flying as

1803
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 3: he's walking away like fu, I got plans. I'm out

1804
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 3: of here, right Mark Hunts style, I'm gone.

1805
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:07,680
Speaker 2: What is this?

1806
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 3: What sport?

1807
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 2: What's the guy in the back doing?

1808
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a he's trying to get the I don't know,

1809
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 3: maybe something wave. Maybe he's telling me. You know, remember

1810
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 3: in Major League two, the Japanese guy Takahashi, he's like,

1811
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 3: no marbles. Remember he's did the same cassel thing like

1812
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 3: the you know, you know, I'm thought we're.

1813
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 2: Going the exit. Is that way, he says, exit over

1814
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 2: the door.

1815
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 3: All right, hey, how about that? All right? Have you

1816
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 3: seen the ship rolls on here? Luke? I think this

1817
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 3: is tie boxing. Some people think this is fake. Darren

1818
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 3: Till's one of them on Instagram with these giant gloves.

1819
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 3: But oh my god, hello sir, here's your ticket. You've

1820
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 3: been sent to hell.

1821
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 2: Luke.

1822
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 3: Look at that. It's just he clubs it with him

1823
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 3: candidate for knockout of your lifetime. Mam.

1824
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 2: Hold that is that real? Wow? That is fun. How

1825
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 2: big are these dudes? They don't look very athletic. I

1826
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:58,799
Speaker 2: don't know what size gloves are those like eighteen ouncers?

1827
01:11:58,840 --> 01:11:59,679
Speaker 3: Oh my god?

1828
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 2: Wow?

1829
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 3: All right, hey, we spanned the globe here, Luke, do

1830
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 3: we all right? There's gonna be a boxing fight super

1831
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:09,599
Speaker 3: Bowl weekend on his own There we go. Unit. It's

1832
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 3: Jake Paul, brother of Logan, and someone named and Easton Gibb.

1833
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 3: I got your nose. No, it's that big. I got

1834
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 3: your dog. Somebody take Hall of Famer Shane Mosley out

1835
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 3: of the scenario. What are you doing there, Shane? Get

1836
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 3: out of here, dude. He did he did the line.

1837
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:23,600
Speaker 3: He did that.

1838
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:24,680
Speaker 2: I got your nose bag?

1839
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:27,599
Speaker 3: What kind of bullshit is this? Does Zone stop doing

1840
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 3: this to us? I draw the line. I drink the

1841
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 3: juice for Logan paul KSI two.

1842
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 2: You know who the Paul brothers are. They're like if

1843
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 2: ali G was a real person.

1844
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:38,680
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, look what this guy's wearing, the wife

1845
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 3: beater tucked into the red pants.

1846
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 2: He's like, yah Usha, that's that is who they are.

1847
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 3: I'm done with this, Okay. I got in for the

1848
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 3: first one. It was fun. Everyone made money.

1849
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 1: We had a look at they went, they went, The

1850
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 1: Zone went all in Malibu's most wanted.

1851
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 3: This is going to be the cole main event of

1852
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 3: a Demetrius Andre kartsuper No. It's a real core I know,

1853
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:58,679
Speaker 3: but I don't. I can't do it anymore. I'm signing

1854
01:12:58,720 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 3: off from youtubes right now.

1855
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 1: I always want to point out everyone's like, this is

1856
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 1: a smart move by his own. You were the same

1857
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 1: fuck boys that were saying, you know, dude, k One

1858
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 1: having Yokazuna fight, this couldn't be bad for m M.

1859
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:13,559
Speaker 3: A a word. Remember can take a brought the bat

1860
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 3: into the ring against Hong MANCHOI. That's more entertaining than this. Okay,

1861
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 3: I'll get down.

1862
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 2: Then ran the whole time.

1863
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 1: All right, yeah right here, I can't believe he did

1864
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 1: the you guys your nose speaking face off his guy,

1865
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 1: I got a nickel from your ear speaking.

1866
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 3: Of his own Cole Main event over the weekend, you

1867
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 3: see this women's fight Franchion Cruise Desern. She ended up

1868
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 3: losing to him Andez, but in the corner, her coach

1869
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:35,720
Speaker 3: is like, what I quote, you want the weave or

1870
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 3: you want the title. Look at what the corner does.

1871
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 3: They first they hold down her arms because her hair

1872
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 3: kept getting in the way. Look at this ship loop.

1873
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:46,800
Speaker 3: If you've got real hair, if you've got fingernails, if

1874
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 3: you've got a job, you going to school, you don't

1875
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 3: need anybody under your business. Make some g No, my god,

1876
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 3: never figures in the air. I'm like, look at that,

1877
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 3: look at look at history.

1878
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 2: I'm right, I'm half. I don't know whether it'll last.

1879
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 3: That was a real title fight.

1880
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:13,440
Speaker 2: I'm a little bit horrified.

1881
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 3: I love that one of the corner men held her

1882
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 3: arms down because they knew that she would protect the weak.

1883
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 3: Look this happened to page You remember that fight with

1884
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 3: a lot of more endu. Peter Carrs in the corner

1885
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 3: had had to cut off his fake dreads that he

1886
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 3: had in there.

1887
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 2: I've seen that at weigh ins. I've never seen it

1888
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 2: in the middle of it.

1889
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 3: But they just pulled the damn weave right off.

1890
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 2: Dude, what the fuck?

1891
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 1: Man?

1892
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 3: And the coach said, you want the weaver or you

1893
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 3: want the title?

1894
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 2: I felt like a crime I just watched or the strap.

1895
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 3: Jay is telling me in my ear, Okay, well everyone's

1896
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 3: been at that crossroads.

1897
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 2: Right, Luke, Holy shit, are we gonna end on that for?

1898
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 3: We're gonna take you to some animal mma. Luke, I'm

1899
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 3: telling you, I go everywhere for this ship. Okay, Luke,

1900
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 3: I've been asking. I got this raccoon's ground game here

1901
01:14:55,720 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 3: takes the back of this of this pussy cat gable grip. Well,

1902
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:04,560
Speaker 3: first of all, who has a domesticated raccoon to the

1903
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 3: the tab Oh, that's that's where naked Connor's going out

1904
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 3: on this Connor's tappened interesting enough that raccoon's name is

1905
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 3: Habib And now we smell the ass on the way out. Look,

1906
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:16,720
Speaker 3: I need I need something from here.

1907
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 2: I'm watching the captions.

1908
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:26,719
Speaker 3: Look, that raccoon would scratch your eyes out, Okay, he would.

1909
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 3: He would have pleasure you're eating in your beard.

1910
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 1: Here here, that raccoon is also a more sensible bathroom

1911
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 1: user than your friend.

1912
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 3: How is the technique though, How is the technique on

1913
01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:37,679
Speaker 3: that raccoon?

1914
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 1: Uh? Not bad?

1915
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 2: Okay, Here's what I want to see though from these things.

1916
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 1: I don't want to see animal on animal violence, which

1917
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 1: this is not exactly This is just playful behavior.

1918
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 2: But I want to see an animal fuck up a person.

1919
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 3: We have those two next week. A kangaroo took a

1920
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:53,640
Speaker 3: dude out when someone's like.

1921
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:55,560
Speaker 2: Oh, let's get too close to the petting zoo, and

1922
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 2: then you know we're gonna close on this.

1923
01:15:57,160 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 3: This is the most requested clip. And have you seen

1924
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 3: this ship history? I'm not lying. I had at least

1925
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,600
Speaker 3: twenty five tweets emails.

1926
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 2: D I saw this.

1927
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:08,599
Speaker 3: It's a restaurant fight. And this got turned into Rick Flair,

1928
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 3: lick my hand and chop that ship.

1929
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 2: Oh my son, one Luke, who son?

1930
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 3: What You've ever seen this type of shit in a

1931
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 3: real fight. This is like pro wrestling moves toe.

1932
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 1: It looks like, by the nature of his clothes, he'd

1933
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 1: been getting sucked up before.

1934
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 3: Oh my god. And he went back and just asked

1935
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 3: he fulded him up in a suitcase. It's like a

1936
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 3: three piece with the where's the's.

1937
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 2: The like a slinky trying to go down a pair

1938
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:33,759
Speaker 2: of stairs.

1939
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:36,439
Speaker 3: Full on, Rick Flair. I know you got pro wrestling,

1940
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 3: but that's.

1941
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 2: Improm That was amazing. That was amazing.

1942
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 3: Here's what it's a Oh ook at look at Rick

1943
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 3: Flair take down six just like that? Right, whatever, xbox

1944
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:45,640
Speaker 3: whatever you want to call it, whatever that means. Oh,

1945
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 3: look at this?

1946
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 2: Look at this?

1947
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 3: Give me again? Oh yeah, nice reverse knife edge chop.

1948
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 2: Can we just not do prestling on this fucking show?

1949
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 3: Pase we got through a hole. Have you seen the ship? No, Dix,

1950
01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:00,839
Speaker 3: I've turned over a new leafnudong for twenty Okay.

1951
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 2: My thirst for Dick has gone down, said Brian.

1952
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 3: Seen that shit?

1953
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, Brian Campbell. With that in mind, we

1954
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 1: end on odds and ends. Is actually do a bit

1955
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:10,639
Speaker 1: of an exercise here for my odds and ends.

1956
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 3: H what do you got?

1957
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 2: I would like to do?

1958
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:19,599
Speaker 1: Name one hidden underrated something storyline about UFC two forty six.

1959
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick this one. Andre Feeley taken on Sidiki

1960
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 1: Yusef the second fight, not the main event of the prelims,

1961
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 1: but the codeine event, the prisums, if that's even a thing.

1962
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:28,559
Speaker 2: It's on ESPN.

1963
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 1: A incredibly interesting one hundred and forty five pound fight.

1964
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 1: I think most people expect Sidik Yusef to win. The

1965
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:36,680
Speaker 1: odds makers have him slightly favored. He's very athletic. He

1966
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 1: is a very good striker, very heavy handed. But Andre

1967
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 1: Feely has turned over a new leaf. You could have

1968
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:42,760
Speaker 1: said he would have won that. He should have won

1969
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 1: that Michael Johnson fight, which would give him five fight

1970
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 1: win streak. He's on a two fight win streak at

1971
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 1: age twenty eight, twenty nine. I don't think he's the

1972
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 1: athlete that Yusef is, but his game is finally coming together.

1973
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 2: He looks really polished.

1974
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 1: I think Usef again the better athlete, but I don't

1975
01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 1: think he's as polished. So it's a younger guy who's

1976
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 1: a little bit raw, a little more naturally talented, versus

1977
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:03,720
Speaker 1: a guy who's also, by the way, very talented, but

1978
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:05,640
Speaker 1: a little bit more polished. What's gonna happen when the

1979
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 1: two collide? Love that fight on the plums. I know

1980
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 1: people are dogging this card, and they should. For the

1981
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 1: For the main card, you have to pay for, but

1982
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:15,000
Speaker 1: there are some gems down the prelims.

1983
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:17,840
Speaker 3: The comin event is weird, so they're using Holly Holme's

1984
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 3: name to go in this rematch that no one really

1985
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 3: wants or cares about against Raquel Pennington. I just wonder

1986
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 3: winner lose here, Luke? What's left for Holly Holm? Thirty

1987
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:28,560
Speaker 3: eight years old and has really had like one of

1988
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:32,680
Speaker 3: the oddest resumes and legacies in MMA history. In her

1989
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 3: third UFC fight, she shocks the world and knocks out

1990
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 3: Ronda Rousey, but has gone two and five since then

1991
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 3: and is really known for being a credible loser. What

1992
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:44,680
Speaker 3: I mean by that putting up really strong performances in

1993
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 3: title fights, But she's lost her last four title fights, Luke,

1994
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 3: how do you think we would kind of remember her

1995
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 3: winner lose here. I don't think she's going back because

1996
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 3: both of the divisions she fights in, Amanda Nuness is

1997
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:57,760
Speaker 3: on top and she just lost by first round head kick.

1998
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 3: Who is Holly Holm in the end after all this,

1999
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:04,479
Speaker 3: when you look back over a seven fight stretch and

2000
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 3: she only beats Koheya and Anderson and loses to the

2001
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:08,679
Speaker 3: best that the sport's scene.

2002
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 1: Also, she's nearing forty years old, though you have to

2003
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 1: keep that in mind. The other part is like who

2004
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 1: is recalled Pennington because she had a terrible accident. Then

2005
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 1: she wanted to quit on the stool, which I fully

2006
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:18,599
Speaker 1: supported her on against Amna Nunez.

2007
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 2: Then loses that comes back.

2008
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:21,800
Speaker 1: I think she lost her first or second fight even

2009
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,839
Speaker 1: after that, but she got in a rebound more recently.

2010
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 1: So of the question is can she keep that going?

2011
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 1: Remember that first right between Pennington and Home was close.

2012
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 3: I guess can you hold the Hall of Famer for

2013
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 3: being for one man?

2014
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 1: She'll go in the Hall of Fame at a bare

2015
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 1: minimum for the win over Rousei, because you can go

2016
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 1: on for single performance.

2017
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 3: Have you seen a resume like this where somebody is

2018
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:41,760
Speaker 3: so beloved and respected and by the way, rightfully so

2019
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 3: on the respected part, but has lost all of her

2020
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 3: big fights after round the rest?

2021
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 1: Dude, my earpiece is hissing like a forty ounce I

2022
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 1: just opened. Can you hear itaye?

2023
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:51,600
Speaker 2: Can you hear it?

2024
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 3: Yes?

2025
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 2: I can listen.

2026
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:54,800
Speaker 3: I don't want to.

2027
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 2: I don't know what you put in your mouth.

2028
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 3: I don't need jay the the way you don't need it.

2029
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 2: All right, what's the difference between Jay and just static.

2030
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 1: The answer is static is pleasant, all right? All right, last,

2031
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 1: but not least your your oddsidence.

2032
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 3: Well, one other thing, Macy Barber is in a very

2033
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 3: featured spot heregainst main event. And here's the thing. She's

2034
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:17,560
Speaker 3: three to zero. With three ko's a fourth one in

2035
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 3: the Dana White Contender series. It's time for her to

2036
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 3: make that leap. The problem is there's no contenders at

2037
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 3: thirty five, so you don't want her to make that

2038
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 3: leap too cool quick. But she has a chance in

2039
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 3: a very featured spot against a fighter who is very

2040
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 3: difficult to finish in Madafari, to really announce herself. I

2041
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:36,840
Speaker 3: think if she can finish Madafari in demonstrative fashion, it's like, okay,

2042
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 3: let's start building the drum to how many fights we

2043
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 3: think responsibly you can give this twenty two year old

2044
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 3: before she would be ready for Amanda Do.

2045
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 2: And then, lastly, I'll say this in the opening fight

2046
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 2: on the on the main car.

2047
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 1: So once the pay per view kicks off, it's Anthony

2048
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:51,519
Speaker 1: Pettit's going back to one fifty five against very much

2049
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 1: the dark horse of that division, Carlos Digo Fajeda, who

2050
01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 1: I think is a bit of a little bit slept On,

2051
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 1: which he had a couple losses against when he went

2052
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 1: up in competition, including Dustin Pariet one fifty. But I'd

2053
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:02,680
Speaker 1: say this, he's been on a great win streak. He

2054
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 1: just beat I think Russe, some Hablov and somebody else

2055
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:06,559
Speaker 1: in Nabu Dhabia.

2056
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 2: Can I remember who we beat.

2057
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 1: But in any event, now trained by Safe soud at

2058
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 1: a four to c m m A and that guy

2059
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 1: has very good game plans because the best out of

2060
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 1: his fighters.

2061
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 2: I actually think that's kind of competitive.

2062
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 3: If Cowboy came down with herpes between now on Saturday,

2063
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 3: would Anthony Pettis get the spot against Connor Herpees?

2064
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:25,680
Speaker 2: Probably? I don't know.

2065
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 1: If there's no a lightweight on that car that would

2066
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:28,439
Speaker 1: be in ther relevant consideration.

2067
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:32,120
Speaker 3: I could have picked a different std. It's all right. Hey,

2068
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:35,160
Speaker 3: my odds and ends are Luke Yes. Brother twenty twenty

2069
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:36,599
Speaker 3: is the New York upon us. We talk in both

2070
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:38,600
Speaker 3: sports the fights we want to see we need to

2071
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 3: see boxing. Obviously it's a little different because of the

2072
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:43,640
Speaker 3: power structure and the political side of it. But the

2073
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 3: one biggest fight we want to see outside of the

2074
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:49,760
Speaker 3: heavyweights in twenty twenty. Undoubtedly is Terrence Crawford Aerospence, two

2075
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 3: unbeaten welterweight champions, and finally they have seemingly taken it

2076
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 3: upon themselves to start to build this. Did you see

2077
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 3: the Twitter war that began in the last week and

2078
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 3: a half. First it was Erol Spence and Terrence Crawford's

2079
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 3: sister going at each other.

2080
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 2: I saw I saw Crawford go after Mike Coppinger.

2081
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 3: Well, oh, Mike, he sent my Coppinger to hell in

2082
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:13,840
Speaker 3: a handbasket. I thought that, Uh, shout out to Mike.

2083
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 3: I'm friends with Mike, But no one. I don't think

2084
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 3: anyone's taking an l harder in that moment than Mike

2085
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 3: right there. But shout out to Mike. Terrence Crawford and

2086
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:22,679
Speaker 3: Bud start Budded and Spence start going back and forth.

2087
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 3: I'll f and finish you all this stuff. And it

2088
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 3: ended with Bud kind of saying, look, Spence and I

2089
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 3: are cool. We're gonna make this happen. Look, this is

2090
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:35,600
Speaker 3: how you make the big fights. When you are on

2091
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 3: the opposite sides of the street. You don't say, well,

2092
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 3: it's up to them. You go out there and go

2093
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 3: after it. This is what we want. This is what

2094
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 3: we need. You have to put your promoters and your

2095
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 3: network in an uncomfortable spot where they have to make

2096
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 3: it happen or you look bad publicly. That's what these

2097
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:53,599
Speaker 3: fighters are doing with this. We need to see this fight.

2098
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:55,960
Speaker 3: I want to see this fight, and Luke, don't forget

2099
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:59,640
Speaker 3: one thing, all right, Fury And while they're gonna have

2100
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 3: that remin at your February double network pay per view,

2101
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:05,200
Speaker 3: it puts Al Hayman and Bob Aram. I'm coming together

2102
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:08,080
Speaker 3: for this. If that fight is a monster success, maybe

2103
01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:11,639
Speaker 3: Spence Crawford is doable this year. All right, maybe we'll

2104
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:13,719
Speaker 3: have That's how you do it, Luke, Right, you gotta

2105
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:14,679
Speaker 3: make shit happen.

2106
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:22,479
Speaker 2: Right, what happened to my earpiece? What are you doing?

2107
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:23,840
Speaker 2: You're just drawing now, you're making You.

2108
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:25,720
Speaker 3: Have anything left in the show. You probably have a

2109
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:26,439
Speaker 3: job you got to get to.

2110
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 2: Yes, that man thinks I have to get to all right.

2111
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 1: So we appreciate you guys watching today the usual, of course,

2112
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:34,799
Speaker 1: give the video a thumbs up, subscribe to the channel,

2113
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:35,559
Speaker 1: will be Are.

2114
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:36,960
Speaker 2: You going to Vegas? Yes?

2115
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 1: Yes, all right, so have fun out there. Thank you,

2116
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:41,679
Speaker 1: enjoy that yourself, right, be saying I don't care for safe.

2117
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:43,680
Speaker 1: Just don't die, Just don't you go dieing on me.

2118
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 3: We encourage people, though, like you said, please subscribe. This

2119
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 3: thing is Look this, this this shit's going someplaces. Certainly,

2120
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 3: I don't know if you're ready for where it's going.

2121
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:54,679
Speaker 1: I am more than ready. I'm also more than ready

2122
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:55,880
Speaker 1: to get the fuck out here because I've been trained to.

2123
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 1: Guy gotta catch all right, So thank you guys so

2124
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:00,759
Speaker 1: much for watching. We really appreciate it. Like video, subscribe,

2125
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:02,600
Speaker 1: tell your friends about it. We're back next week for

2126
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:05,720
Speaker 1: all the wrap up around UFC two forty six.

2127
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:08,240
Speaker 2: For Brian, I'm Luke. Until then, may all of your

2128
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 2: gains be loyal