Speaker 1: All right, let's get it going right here and right now.
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Speaker 1: is Chad and every single week I'm joined here by
Speaker 1: the host of the show, the one that Eyes up
Speaker 1: Here was named for, the great Queen of extreme fancy.
Speaker 1: That's me. Hello, how are you lovely? I'm doing great, fantastic, fantastic.
Speaker 1: I am sleepy, but I am here and I'm ready
Speaker 1: to rock. You're a sleepy bee. I am a sleepy
Speaker 1: bitch today. Yes? Is that what you I just say,
Speaker 1: sleepy bee? I don't know. It can be give you
Speaker 1: a literal B if you wanted it to be. It
Speaker 1: could be a letter B. Slippy bitch. Yeah. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to be in a bitch mood though. I'm going
Speaker 1: to be happy and cheerful and ready to go because
Speaker 1: we got a st show today. We do. We have
Speaker 1: a stacked lineup. You know, our recording lineup is stacked.
Speaker 1: We have a stacked show. There's a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: going on. It's a good week though, I'm very uh,
Speaker 1: I'm very happy to be sitting in a chair just
Speaker 1: because for me, you know, and you it's Friday. So
Speaker 1: every time I sit down, I just know after we're done,
Speaker 1: like the day is almost over. Oh yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can see this. Look at
Speaker 1: this catatrophe. Oh okay, I have three band dates and
Speaker 1: they're all falling off. Oh what'd you do? Uh? So
Speaker 1: I was cooking last night and I was using tongues
Speaker 1: and they were metal tongues. And when I squeeze, when
Speaker 1: you squeeze the top, you know, to close them. My
Speaker 1: finger got between and it was really sharp in the
Speaker 1: middle and I took the chunk of my tip of
Speaker 1: my middle finger off. Ouch. Yeah. And I was bleeding.
Speaker 1: My son was subtled down. I'll live, you know, but
Speaker 1: I was trying to it was bleeding a lot, so
Speaker 1: I had to stop the cleaning. But I'm like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, this band aid is just the ugliest I
Speaker 1: got three. That band aid looks like it seemed like
Speaker 1: better days, you know what. I've wore it in the showers.
Speaker 1: Oh that's the end of them. And I forgot to
Speaker 1: switch it before I came down. I didn't even put
Speaker 1: my wedding ring on today. I was just running a
Speaker 1: monk so, hey, I'm single today. I rarely put it
Speaker 1: when I'm just like around the house. I don't put
Speaker 1: it on because it either it bothers me. And since
Speaker 1: I lost all my weight, I've had instances where if
Speaker 1: I go like this, you just go. When you do
Speaker 1: your single ladies dance, you see the ring, just go,
Speaker 1: you know, on the side of the room. That's hilarious. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I usually wear mine for air, but I ran downstairs
Speaker 1: so quickly I didn't put it on, so you know.
Speaker 1: But I do have some bling on my shirt, very blank,
Speaker 1: very blink for the for the for the viewers who
Speaker 1: but you don't see it. It's not all right, you
Speaker 1: can't tell there's bling, Okay, all right, Now I can
Speaker 1: see it better. At first, I couldn't really see it.
Speaker 1: Now I see it much better. Yeah, this is unnecessary.
Speaker 1: I wish this wasn't here, and it was just yeah,
Speaker 1: I couldn't and all I noticed was the zigzag. I
Speaker 1: didn't really notice the little frillies there. Yeah, but it's
Speaker 1: it's a cute little shirt. But I had to put
Speaker 1: a brang on because you know, the girls were ready
Speaker 1: to go. I mean, you know, I don't really I
Speaker 1: don't know what the problems are. I don't really sympathize,
Speaker 1: but I can, you know, empathize at least you guys
Speaker 1: are so well. You have that thing hanging between your legs,
Speaker 1: so I guess it's a Yes, it is. And it's
Speaker 1: tough to put on a pair of tight jeans, sometimess jewelry.
Speaker 1: Who you know what I used to and I didn't
Speaker 1: realize it now. I mean I used to wear very
Speaker 1: like loose jeans, like I wouldn't necessarily say bad. You know,
Speaker 1: I wasn't walking around like Djenko skater jeans, but you
Speaker 1: know they were. They were bigger man. I swear the
Speaker 1: tighter or the longer, the older I'm getting, the tighter
Speaker 1: my jeans are getting with me because I'm like, I
Speaker 1: can't wear loose jeans. I feel like I'm like like
Speaker 1: swaying in the air. So I have like the most
Speaker 1: form fitting jeans. Now, do you wear skinny jeans? Yes? Oh,
Speaker 1: look at you. In fact, I will point this out
Speaker 1: to you. You may not remember this, but when we
Speaker 1: last were in the same room in Richmond, I actually
Speaker 1: had on a pair of skinny jeans. I wasn't looking
Speaker 1: at your jeans. It's okay, it's okay, hey, eyes up
Speaker 1: here for a reason. But that was And I just
Speaker 1: put those jeans on two weeks ago. I think it
Speaker 1: was like the first time I wore them since Richmond,
Speaker 1: and uh, yes, I and I'm not I'm not afraid
Speaker 1: to say I look good at them. So well, I'm
Speaker 1: wearing proud jeans. You look good in something you should,
Speaker 1: you should. Definitely, I'm all about the jeans. I love
Speaker 1: wearing jeans now. Granted didn't wear them for like five
Speaker 1: months with Corona, but well, I haven't worn jeans in
Speaker 1: a long time. I am a sweatpants kind of girl,
Speaker 1: especially quarantined today. I have one boxer shorts. Oh, Missy
Speaker 1: Hyatt these shorts years ago when she worked at the
Speaker 1: China Club in Sarasota, Florida. Interesting, Okay, they don't really
Speaker 1: match my shirt, but they're comfortable and nobody can see
Speaker 1: my bottom. So yeah, I got my shorts on. But
Speaker 1: it's forty eight degrees outside. Oh my gosh, is it really? Yeah?
Speaker 1: It's chilly up here. Did you have the like insane
Speaker 1: heat earlier in the week. Okay, Yeah we did. Yeah.
Speaker 1: We had three days in a row where we went
Speaker 1: on hikes and went went walking and it's just beautiful,
Speaker 1: beautiful weather. And I'll tell you funny story real quick.
Speaker 1: We went on a nature hike, all four of us,
Speaker 1: my husband, myself, and my kids, and we went to
Speaker 1: a park that's a ways out, so we had to
Speaker 1: like drive to it, you know, And when we pull up,
Speaker 1: there's like a bunch of cars. So we brought our
Speaker 1: mask but I was holding them because we're outside, and
Speaker 1: I figured, if we don't see anybody, we don't need
Speaker 1: to wear our masks. And we're on a trail. We're walking,
Speaker 1: and this couple's walking toward us. Our kids are on
Speaker 1: My son goes people people, and I said, it's okay,
Speaker 1: but it's okay, and you know, they just like kind
Speaker 1: of moved over. We knew there. But I said to myself,
Speaker 1: what kind of world do we live in that we
Speaker 1: can't even take a walk and my kids are scared
Speaker 1: of people being near us, you know what I mean? Like, oh,
Speaker 1: I hear you to that. So I just was laughing.
Speaker 1: I was like, what the hell we we When we
Speaker 1: went trigger treating one of the kids that was with
Speaker 1: us trigg or treating. We were. We got to a
Speaker 1: crosswalk and my older daughter reached out her hand to say,
Speaker 1: I'll hold my hand cross the street. And the kid
Speaker 1: goes Corona and she's like seven years old. She's like Corona,
Speaker 1: and I was like, Maddie, just leave it alone. I
Speaker 1: was like, it's okay, just how she'll stand. She's standing
Speaker 1: close to us, but we can't touch her. So it
Speaker 1: was funny, but it's so crazy. So how was the hike?
Speaker 1: Did you? Did you get up those hills the night before?
Speaker 1: I took a horrible bump. I yeah, I did my
Speaker 1: only fans live stream and then I came up. It
Speaker 1: was about seven thirty at night. My husband has made
Speaker 1: a I think I told you his gym. You've seen
Speaker 1: pictures of it. So he keeps adding to it. And
Speaker 1: he bought these mats and he put them in our den,
Speaker 1: and our den our half is hardwood floors all through
Speaker 1: the you know, I guess it would be the main floor.
Speaker 1: And he had these mats young and then he moved
Speaker 1: them to the garage where the gym is the in
Speaker 1: law suite and I come walking up the steps and
Speaker 1: socks right and I go in the den to use
Speaker 1: the bathroom and I slide, literally slide, and I fell
Speaker 1: so hard you can't see it, but this into here
Speaker 1: was all bruised. My knee was swollen, and I was
Speaker 1: I'm all bruised on my left side from the way
Speaker 1: I landed. And I was shaking like it was a
Speaker 1: hard bump like on wood, you know. And I went
Speaker 1: and I got two ice packs. I just put one
Speaker 1: on and I was just sat there for an hour
Speaker 1: and I was just you know, my husband had this
Speaker 1: scrape my I couldn't move my neck. Oh. But I
Speaker 1: said to myself, it's such a beautiful day, I want
Speaker 1: to do the hike. So I was fine hiking, but
Speaker 1: when I came home, I was sure. I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm feeling my age here. You know. You know, you
Speaker 1: talk about you're retired from active competition, and I feel
Speaker 1: like you need a built in crowd noise in your house,
Speaker 1: being like she's hardcore, She's hardcore, dumb. I didn't want
Speaker 1: to do that. It wasn't a planned spot. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you. It hurt like hell and I'm still suffering
Speaker 1: from it today. Like, you know, I really need to
Speaker 1: find a new chiropractor. But yeah, I fell really really hard,
Speaker 1: but I was able to walk, like for three days
Speaker 1: we walked in. Now the last three days have been rainy,
Speaker 1: so we haven't been outside. But you know, so let's
Speaker 1: see what what's to today's Friday? I Wednesday, That's what
Speaker 1: I called. I called you Wednesday when I was in
Speaker 1: the car. I drove to Virginia Beach on Wednesday because
Speaker 1: I had some business to attend to. And when I
Speaker 1: left my home it was torrential downpour like like Wizard
Speaker 1: of Oz End of the World. It was dark, it
Speaker 1: was it was bad. Of course, it all started the
Speaker 1: second I pulled out of my driveway. It always will,
Speaker 1: you know. Followed me to ninety five and then down
Speaker 1: ninety five to get to the Richmond area. You make
Speaker 1: a left head to sixty four east, so I get
Speaker 1: into Virginia Beach. You know, I was at a very
Speaker 1: nice day spa resort. It was very nice. This was
Speaker 1: the view at the place. Oh wow, do you see
Speaker 1: what the weather looked like? It was blue skies, beautiful
Speaker 1: and beautiful, warm, with a hint of a breeze. Is
Speaker 1: that weird? An hour and no, two hours and twenty
Speaker 1: minutes away from home. It's so weird in the same state. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the nature is a crazy thing sometimes, but yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a beautiful pit. It was funny because so this the
Speaker 1: resort is called the Founders in Okay. Their claim to
Speaker 1: fame was that they had a swan on the grounds
Speaker 1: of the spa named Abigail. Okay. So I've been going
Speaker 1: to this place for like twelve years, you know, on
Speaker 1: and off cover couple of years ago, and you know,
Speaker 1: the kids got to know the swan. They know the swana.
Speaker 1: Where's Abigail? Where's Abigail? So I was doing my business
Speaker 1: at this place, and it was one of my autograph signings.
Speaker 1: I don't want to make it sound like it was.
Speaker 1: I thought, you're just going for a massage. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no. I was doing one of my autograph signings
Speaker 1: at this place, and uh, my daughter goes, hey, could
Speaker 1: you get a picture of the swan? So I go,
Speaker 1: of course, I will love Abby. She's great. So I
Speaker 1: go to the desk. He said, hey, you know I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be here and you're doing my thing. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna go outside and take a picture of the swan,
Speaker 1: you know, And she goes, oh, no, the swan has
Speaker 1: passed away, Agail rest in peace. And I said, oh,
Speaker 1: I go, so you guys have a new swan. She goes, No,
Speaker 1: it's actually illegal to own them now, So I was like, well,
Speaker 1: would you kill the damn thing? So I would like
Speaker 1: you to start the introduction process because our guest is
Speaker 1: ready to join. Just texted him. He's so prompt. Again
Speaker 1: another good friend of mine from my ECW's we've kept
Speaker 1: in touch. Uh. He is hilarious and he is uh
Speaker 1: the homish one road kill. Look at that handsome man. Hello, listen,
Speaker 1: I just put you over and you didn't even hear it.
Speaker 1: It was epic. I'm homish, so I have technical difficulties.
Speaker 1: I'm the ships. I'm sorry I said I called you
Speaker 1: handsome pop fork. I appreciate it. Yes, how are you,
Speaker 1: my friend? I'm doing all right. How you guys doing
Speaker 1: to sport? Yeah, we're awesome. Happy Friday's thirteenth? Yes, it
Speaker 1: is Friday the thirteenth, are you No? Everything's a work.
Speaker 1: All of life is a work. I love Arcade, everybody
Speaker 1: full of vitality and energy. ArKade. What was your nickname
Speaker 1: for me? Uh? Bc DC Big Cans And I always
Speaker 1: go like this, here I go. You're going to ragins.
Speaker 1: So you see why we have the name of the show.
Speaker 1: Now right eyes up here, you get the whole, the
Speaker 1: whole deal. We are here. Oh fantastic, And they're rail
Speaker 1: Now they're real. Now they're always real. No, no, no implants.
Speaker 1: They're both busted. Oh it happened to ring or you
Speaker 1: fit them or whateppened. Well my kids did bite them,
Speaker 1: but no, I ninety seven. I got them. So over
Speaker 1: time they kind of deflate, I guess, and you're supposed
Speaker 1: to get them every ten years. I've deflated since ninety seven.
Speaker 1: To have you a little, a little bit, not much,
Speaker 1: just a little. I went for Mama Gram and they
Speaker 1: ask you, like, do you have breast implants? And I
Speaker 1: go yeah, And the lady goes, we can't find them,
Speaker 1: and I go, what do you mean? And she said,
Speaker 1: they're not there, And so they put your boob in
Speaker 1: the machine and they squash it and they sqush it
Speaker 1: and she says, both of yours have ruptured. And I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, okay, they were or were they They
Speaker 1: were sailing, So you can leave the bags in. It's
Speaker 1: not harmful. Like you don't have bags. You don't have
Speaker 1: to remove the bags, you just leave them. But I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, but now I think my boobs are
Speaker 1: bigger than when they were fake because I gained a
Speaker 1: bunch of weight and your lucky husband. Okay, so anyway,
Speaker 1: let's talk about you. I have not seen you since
Speaker 1: uh well, yeah, we saw each other not it was
Speaker 1: it last year, two years ago. I think it was.
Speaker 1: It was the gimmick where we did the reunion. We're
Speaker 1: not sick, Yeah, you got sick. You're out drinking the
Speaker 1: night before up the time listen. I had three no
Speaker 1: time out, I had drinks, no bens uh backwards, Tony
Speaker 1: just texting. No, I had like three drinks, but I
Speaker 1: had food poisoning because I was vomiting and diarrhea at
Speaker 1: the Wow all night long. All night long, it was
Speaker 1: like the Exorcisting. And then Shelley started vomiting. I said,
Speaker 1: it's like the Exorcist. Oh yeah, I was. I was
Speaker 1: probably Yeah, I was met. And then it turned in
Speaker 1: a stand by me. Yes, you know, it's just that's
Speaker 1: seen a stand by me the pie eating contest. I boom, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's another movie I've never heard. There's a there's a gimmick.
Speaker 1: Pie eating contest and one kid eats so much he
Speaker 1: gets sick and starts puking, and then everybody starts puking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but Shelley goes that's all I heard, and I said,
Speaker 1: are you dry heaving? And I couldn't even walk the
Speaker 1: straight line. It was horrible. Why does this exist on videotape?
Speaker 1: Because that would be well I was blocking. I loved
Speaker 1: the whole weekend, but I didn't love that because I
Speaker 1: couldn't even seem to get my freaking camera. But thenwhere
Speaker 1: But I was in my hotel room. It was one
Speaker 1: in the morning, safe and didn't go out. No, I
Speaker 1: didn't go in. I went to dinner. Okay, I went
Speaker 1: to dinner. I had a couple of contails at dinner.
Speaker 1: That was it. It had to be food poisoning because
Speaker 1: I got sick and Shelley got sick, and we both
Speaker 1: had these garlic mashed potatoes and we were the only
Speaker 1: two at the table who ate them, so we think
Speaker 1: it was food poisoning. But we were both vomiting. I
Speaker 1: had diary. I think Shelley might have diary too. She
Speaker 1: had a four o'clock flight in the morning. But I
Speaker 1: had to do the gimmick with you. And I just
Speaker 1: remember saying, they're all going to think I'm on drugs
Speaker 1: because I walked in like the hottest mess you've ever seen.
Speaker 1: We all know you were never on drugs. Out of all,
Speaker 1: E w one of the people that weren't on drugs.
Speaker 1: I know, well I know, but you know, you don't
Speaker 1: know what the fans thinker. Who cares? Guy? Who cares?
Speaker 1: They listen, they have no bearing on her life at all.
Speaker 1: They have their opinion. And he's sitting there and he's
Speaker 1: got I love it. I'm gonna say it because I
Speaker 1: know you don't care. Yeah, We're sitting there, we're taking
Speaker 1: pictures and every time someone would leave mark Mark Mark.
Speaker 1: That is not nice. But I'm trying. Yeah, but they don't.
Speaker 1: They don't know, they don't care. They didn't hear it.
Speaker 1: They don't get its show. We're all marks. That's where
Speaker 1: we got in the business. But tell me, tell me
Speaker 1: why you got into business. Let's rewind and stop talking
Speaker 1: about my diarrhea. Let's talk about yes, onto a solid matter.
Speaker 1: You so so was Team TAZ and you're was that
Speaker 1: the first time that you were training or did you
Speaker 1: have experience before this whole. No, we were myself, Danny,
Speaker 1: Chris Chetty, and uh the infamous Tom Marquez were all
Speaker 1: trained at the school House of Hardcore. We were trained
Speaker 1: by Taz and Perry and we had no experience anywhere else.
Speaker 1: I mean, Chy Cheddy had the amateur background, but I
Speaker 1: went directly to that school and I was completely homegrown.
Speaker 1: And we started with Team Taz and then we were
Speaker 1: doing Team Tas and ring crew and then some nights
Speaker 1: we do Team Tas and then work a match and
Speaker 1: then break down the ring drives the next town. But
Speaker 1: I'm completely easy w homegrown. Yep, me too. Okay, So
Speaker 1: that's interesting, sip. The Cans not homegrown own a homegrown
Speaker 1: back then, they weren't. You maybe leave my train of thought. Yeah, sorry,
Speaker 1: that's okay. Growing up wrestling fan, always child. Yeah, my
Speaker 1: grandmother got me hooked. My Polish grandmother got me My grandma. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they came over. She came over from Poland and lived
Speaker 1: like a half hour away from me, so we would
Speaker 1: go and visit on weekends, and on Saturday night she
Speaker 1: would my my family would go to sleep and she
Speaker 1: would wake me up to watch wrestling with her. And
Speaker 1: her favorite was Ivan Putski. Obviously it was Polish power,
Speaker 1: but she liked the old baby face. So I remember
Speaker 1: her talking about like Tito Santana and Tony Goria and
Speaker 1: I Putski of course. And then and then it just
Speaker 1: hooked hooked me from there. And then I would just
Speaker 1: I was all, w WF how old were you? Uh?
Speaker 1: I'd say I was born in seventy six. I'm forty
Speaker 1: four now, so I couldn't even tell you it was.
Speaker 1: It was though, yeah, but she got me hooked real early.
Speaker 1: Is gonna be That's gonna be like eighty three right
Speaker 1: around there earlier. Well, that's that's what got her hooked,
Speaker 1: she really, but I don't remember seeing him. I remember
Speaker 1: that being like her favorite because it was Polish. Did
Speaker 1: she get to watch you wrestle? No, they had passed her,
Speaker 1: and my grandfather had passed way before, but I know
Speaker 1: they know, yeah, yeah, that would have been a kick. Though.
Speaker 1: I always say my grandmam loved it too, and she
Speaker 1: obviously she died when I was seven, so that I
Speaker 1: wasn't wrestling. I had this, I had this thing pop
Speaker 1: in my head that it was one match. It might
Speaker 1: have been like Hammerstein or something. I envisioned them in
Speaker 1: like a booth like stalin Waldorf, like uh from the
Speaker 1: Muppet Yet like my grandparents was watching it like like
Speaker 1: so cute. Yeah, that's that's how I envisioned them watching
Speaker 1: me on like you know Beyond, but I know they know,
Speaker 1: yeah exactly, act, well that's that's cute. So you're a
Speaker 1: fan growing up, you get anymore, But yes, me neither
Speaker 1: find out. You get into the school, and I know
Speaker 1: because I started with d C. Dub in ninety three,
Speaker 1: but the school was much different. The school, I want
Speaker 1: to say, the school was a little more laid back
Speaker 1: than the way Taz and Perry ran the school. Because
Speaker 1: my coach was JT. Smith is awesome. He's one of
Speaker 1: those un sung guys. Was a nice guy, but he's
Speaker 1: not like he wasn't like a drill sergeant. You know.
Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh, JT, I'm a period today. I
Speaker 1: don't feel good, you know, and he's like, all right,
Speaker 1: well we'll work on something different, like I didn't have
Speaker 1: to go, you know, let's let's do promost today. Yeah.
Speaker 1: If I said that, the Shazzi probably bought me harder. Yeah, probably,
Speaker 1: what what I know? Were you now? I'm just using
Speaker 1: that as an example. But were you ever, like, did
Speaker 1: it ever get to the point where you said to yourself,
Speaker 1: this isn't for me, I'm gonna quit, or did you
Speaker 1: just say I did take a break break because I
Speaker 1: had heat. There was one point where Taz sent me
Speaker 1: up to get his check and the check for the
Speaker 1: for the school. It was I was supposed to bring
Speaker 1: Taz a blank Taz his his paycheck and Mikey Whipwreck
Speaker 1: a blank check for the electric bill. So they sent
Speaker 1: me up to Poll's. I went to went to Paul's.
Speaker 1: I didn't even see Paul. I just went to the mailbox,
Speaker 1: took the envelope out, and I was thinking there was
Speaker 1: two envelopes, but there was only one. So I opened
Speaker 1: up the envelope, took out the blank check, and drove
Speaker 1: went to Taz's house, left the envelope in his mailbox.
Speaker 1: By the time I got to Mikey's house, Mike He's like,
Speaker 1: what did you do? Would you? Taz thought, I looked
Speaker 1: at his check because you opened the end because I
Speaker 1: opened the envelope. Look, do you go to jail with
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff? The mail exactly exactly. I was like,
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, what maybe I just need
Speaker 1: to take take a summer off and be twenty one
Speaker 1: and I'll let you know when I want to come back.
Speaker 1: And that was it. That was like it was the
Speaker 1: weekend after the pay per view in Atlanta, so five, No,
Speaker 1: it was it was later than that. It was ninety seven,
Speaker 1: ninety eight. I took a summer off. Yeah, I took
Speaker 1: a summer off to beat because I started training the
Speaker 1: school in ninety six. What did I think you were
Speaker 1: there before then? Ok, ninety six and when the school opened, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I started. I started March in ninety six and my
Speaker 1: first match was October in ninety six against taz Lulu Temple. Okay,
Speaker 1: so for the check maybe, no, that was that was
Speaker 1: before he did have time to receive me for the check.
Speaker 1: Because I took the summer. It was summer. I was
Speaker 1: twenty one, so whatever the math was, I guess that
Speaker 1: I'm forty four now, so whatever however that works out.
Speaker 1: So I took you summer off. I did manual labor.
Speaker 1: I did like I was doing masonry work, you know,
Speaker 1: sending bricks up, a scaffold, building scaffolds, earing things down
Speaker 1: for the summer, getting in shape, and then I contacted them.
Speaker 1: I said, I want to come back. Oh no, no, man,
Speaker 1: we'll have to see what talking the rose to the
Speaker 1: boys super want you back. So I remember I started
Speaker 1: coming back to school and working out, and there was
Speaker 1: a loop in Queens. It was like Queens and Irena,
Speaker 1: and I said, you know what, I don't want to
Speaker 1: come back there. I'll come back next week in Alabama
Speaker 1: to show them that I really want to come back,
Speaker 1: you know, because Queens and Queens and Queens of Philly
Speaker 1: is easy. I drove to Alabama to show them that
Speaker 1: I really wanted to come back. I was just coming
Speaker 1: back for the easy loop. You know, did you drive
Speaker 1: by yourself? No? I think it was part of the
Speaker 1: ring crew again. Okay, so you had the truck these
Speaker 1: guys or the r kvs. It's called I have to
Speaker 1: put you guys over because we have I've had so
Speaker 1: many easy I will I had so many a CW
Speaker 1: guys on here, and Mike was one of them. We
Speaker 1: talked about ring crew. When I tell you the dedication,
Speaker 1: I mean, I know part of it was they had
Speaker 1: to do it because it was part it was part
Speaker 1: of their d But my god, I used to feel
Speaker 1: so bad because we'd get there and they and we
Speaker 1: got there pretty early and they'd already be there for hours,
Speaker 1: just driving through the middle of the night setting up.
Speaker 1: They had to work, they would have to wait, they'd
Speaker 1: have to break it down, drive to the next town,
Speaker 1: and I would I remember always saying, did you guys
Speaker 1: get any sleep last night? Or you okay? Did you
Speaker 1: eat some breakfast? Like I felt so sad for well, guys,
Speaker 1: Well you should have felt bad, because that's us paying
Speaker 1: our dues. That's just coming up. But I and that's
Speaker 1: that's also how we gained the respect of everybody in
Speaker 1: the locker room because they saw how hard, how hard
Speaker 1: we were working, and we didn't complain at all. So
Speaker 1: a typical day, we'd get up, go get some breakfast,
Speaker 1: then we drive to the building. So we'd have to
Speaker 1: beat the building I think by like twelve or one
Speaker 1: o'clock the latest, get and get the ring set up
Speaker 1: in case people want to work out whatever it's something breaks,
Speaker 1: we can fix it before way before the show, and
Speaker 1: TV was definitely twelve o'clock. Sometimes in the area, we'd
Speaker 1: get there ten or eleven. Yeah, I remember, I remember
Speaker 1: like the day we did the barbed wire for Saboo.
Speaker 1: We met him at the arena and he showed me
Speaker 1: how to set up the ropes how he wanted him done. Wow. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So so the typical ring crew day was, like you said,
Speaker 1: we drive there, set up the ring, set up the chairs,
Speaker 1: set up the entrance away, set up banners. That's just
Speaker 1: for a house show, I now. Then we'd go get
Speaker 1: some neat come back, work out in the ring with Tracy,
Speaker 1: Tracy smell guy and man, what's your deal? Man, he's
Speaker 1: he's awesome. Yeah, watch exc sound for that dog? Remember
Speaker 1: that riot? So uh so we work out with Tracy.
Speaker 1: Doors would open if we were still part of teen
Speaker 1: Tesol do Team tas maybe someone wust work a match,
Speaker 1: and then like you said, we break down a ring
Speaker 1: and then drive to the next town because we had
Speaker 1: to be there the next day for twelve o'clock. I know,
Speaker 1: but you know, the mother and me would always be
Speaker 1: and I wasn't even a mother back then, but I
Speaker 1: just had the instinct. Just yeah, I just had that
Speaker 1: mother lan and sing and I would always walk around
Speaker 1: the locker okay it is everybody all right, need to
Speaker 1: get some rest, and they're all looking at really shut up,
Speaker 1: you know, what. I just cared about everybody there was.
Speaker 1: There was sometimes when I would disappear because I had
Speaker 1: the r KAV and I would just go just find
Speaker 1: a spot and just go sleep for a couple hours. Okay.
Speaker 1: I didn't have a cell phone on purpose because they
Speaker 1: used to used to screw with Chris Chetty all the time,
Speaker 1: Nicole his phone harass them throughout. So I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't need a phone. I didn't
Speaker 1: get a phone till after Taz and the and the
Speaker 1: Dudley's left. I didn't have self gyaes. I really just
Speaker 1: just to avoid getting pestered. I don't think I had
Speaker 1: a cell phone for a long time either. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: got it probably like ninety nine or two thousand. I
Speaker 1: had a note the big fat Nokia. Did you have
Speaker 1: to plug it into the cigarette lighter in the car?
Speaker 1: I plugged mine into the cigarette. Yeah the phone? Is
Speaker 1: that not a thing? Now? I charged mind, Like that's
Speaker 1: me too, I guess you remember now. I just remember
Speaker 1: the first cell phone I had a big one, and
Speaker 1: was that yeah big yeah, big, No Ki that the
Speaker 1: only way it would like work is if you had
Speaker 1: it plugged into the damn cigarette lader. I don't know
Speaker 1: cigarette lators and cars anymore. I have a horse and buggy.
Speaker 1: What's car? That's true, that's true. Yeah, I I always
Speaker 1: had a lot of respect for you guys, just because
Speaker 1: you know, we we worked hard, but you guys had
Speaker 1: double the lude. So that's that's uh. I can't it's all.
Speaker 1: It's all for the pops, that's all. I just try
Speaker 1: and pop you. No, I love that. Listen. This is
Speaker 1: the most non professional show probably in the podcast world.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I've seen. I've seen some marks out
Speaker 1: there that are bad. I have to come on here
Speaker 1: because we're friends. We just pop each other with stories.
Speaker 1: But that's the point. I watched a little bit of
Speaker 1: you and c W. I didn't even know that. Saran
Speaker 1: sort of caught you guys checking out of the building.
Speaker 1: That's a great story. We were like Ninja's. We were
Speaker 1: like trying to apparently apparently not good ninjas. You didn't do.
Speaker 1: I look like a good na. I don't even know
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. So, so, any h any good stories
Speaker 1: that you remember from E. C. Dub Tons, tons and
Speaker 1: tons or what kind of what kind of story you're
Speaker 1: looking for? I'm looking I'll ask you for two. I
Speaker 1: want something that's gonna pop me and something that people
Speaker 1: might not know happened. Wow, Can I talk about the
Speaker 1: heat I got on your birthday? Yeah? Okay, it goes.
Speaker 1: It goes to the BC. You walked in. Hey, okay,
Speaker 1: it's my birthday. Go can I cop a birthday feel?
Speaker 1: That's right? And you lean over the guard Hong Kong,
Speaker 1: or said Hong Kong. Maybe somebody said Hong Kong. But
Speaker 1: I I copped a good feel. Did I get mad? No?
Speaker 1: You popped? But then uh, but then in the first match,
Speaker 1: I had to work balls and axle and I took
Speaker 1: the chair shot to the head and chair shot to
Speaker 1: the back as a receipt. I guess as I did.
Speaker 1: It was opening match. No, but wasn't. What do you
Speaker 1: think I went to axel on balls and said, hit
Speaker 1: real kill. No, no, I think it's a booker. Oh
Speaker 1: get ay here, that's a sud. That was the case.
Speaker 1: I had no knowledge, Honest to god, I didn't know,
Speaker 1: because I just want to I just want to get it.
Speaker 1: Get in that. I you know, grabbed your cans and
Speaker 1: it's exposed for everyone. Now listen, it's it's Yeah, it
Speaker 1: wasn't like a sexual thing. It was like a funny
Speaker 1: you know, yeah because I b C. Yeah, okay, well
Speaker 1: that's a good one. What's a story? I think? I
Speaker 1: think Sam Booth said to me, can I touch them?
Speaker 1: And I was like no, I'll give you no. Well
Speaker 1: that see I wasn't into that. So maybe maybe if
Speaker 1: I was, I would have let him. But I didn't.
Speaker 1: But I remember him going Hong Kong like air Hong
Speaker 1: Kong and I was like, no, you walked away. Well
Speaker 1: he didn't go for it. Maybe if he went for it,
Speaker 1: it would happen. See, if you try, sometimes you get it.
Speaker 1: You gotta take chances in life. You know, what is
Speaker 1: a story that anywhere doesn't even have to be? Because
Speaker 1: we worked together also in in in the Fake w
Speaker 1: W W e C Yeah the fake. Hey, it was fake,
Speaker 1: but we all got exposure. I got to have a
Speaker 1: Matt with Saboo on Sci Fi, which I thought was
Speaker 1: really good. I got compliments from everybody on the even TAZ,
Speaker 1: which was a surprise. I'm I'm in the Encyclopedia. I
Speaker 1: got a trading card or on the network. So yeah,
Speaker 1: the runs sucked, but we still have exposure now because
Speaker 1: of it. Do you feel like, because you know, there
Speaker 1: was a buzz about you when we were in w
Speaker 1: W A. I heard I heard a buzz, okay, and
Speaker 1: the buzz was that the buzz was look at me.
Speaker 1: Vince McMahon loved your character, That's what I heard. And
Speaker 1: I wasn't sure if like they were supposed to push
Speaker 1: you on the E c W brand or if they
Speaker 1: were gonna move you to like a raw or a
Speaker 1: smack yep. But I kept hearing roadkill, roadkill, roadkill. It's
Speaker 1: used to me they didn't know who I was. So bizarre. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's bizarre world because hey, yeah, I have to go
Speaker 1: introduce myself as Mike, and it's it's it's like if
Speaker 1: you weren't made there, if you didn't come up through
Speaker 1: their system or their brand, you didn't exist, or they
Speaker 1: act like you didn't exist. I've said that so many
Speaker 1: and you are and you are. Yeah, you fuck I
Speaker 1: am you signed to you clowns. Well, it's funny you
Speaker 1: said that, because I don't know if you know the
Speaker 1: story when Vince pulled me out of the line to
Speaker 1: get my draw because I was crying, the Johnny A
Speaker 1: said I wanted my release, and Vince came and found me,
Speaker 1: and Vince goes, I know nothing about you. This is
Speaker 1: what he says to me, And I go, didn't you
Speaker 1: buy our tape library? Didn't you buy E C W?
Speaker 1: And He's like, oh, I don't watch it. I don't
Speaker 1: know anything about I felt like this, this guy who
Speaker 1: runs the wrestling Empire doesn't watch his competition, or at
Speaker 1: least is it is told about what's going on in
Speaker 1: the competition as he didn't, I mean, I but he didn't.
Speaker 1: He didn't. But he also weren't they going to hire
Speaker 1: you as like sister love or something? Yeah? So they so,
Speaker 1: so there you go that they knew who you were.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's all it's all giant work. I'm
Speaker 1: sure it's not just me that you said it too,
Speaker 1: because I'm just like, am I crazy? Look? Look look
Speaker 1: what they Look what the w W has done with
Speaker 1: all guys that have come from anywhere else that was successful.
Speaker 1: Few exceptions, there's like one or two like Flair and
Speaker 1: who el well, no, I'm talking about like RV d
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, RV very well in that company. Tommy
Speaker 1: had a good run in that company. Tommy, Tommy had
Speaker 1: an okay run. Stevie had a really good run, had
Speaker 1: a good run, but under the radar. They were there
Speaker 1: for a long time though they got their jobs. But
Speaker 1: Stevie was there before the W crumbled, before the merge
Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, before all. Yeah, Dudley's a jumped ship.
Speaker 1: That's what part of that's what that's what's part of
Speaker 1: the East W crumbling was they took away, like the
Speaker 1: main guys like Taz left and was in charge like
Speaker 1: merging the school, and Perry was already gone. And then
Speaker 1: they pulled like Bubba and Devon. They're both office guys,
Speaker 1: and Bubba would get buildings for us, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they they kind of like plucked, plucked away at
Speaker 1: the Turkey until there was just bones left, you know.
Speaker 1: But now for you, going back to E c W,
Speaker 1: we have top guys that are leaving, which moves mid
Speaker 1: card guys up. We should have should have well supposedly, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's all work. Do you feel like Paul didn't see
Speaker 1: you at a certain level. I feel like I feel
Speaker 1: like Paul was disengaged with us at that time because
Speaker 1: he wasn't if you remember, he wasn't coming to the
Speaker 1: shows at the end, Remember he was he was in
Speaker 1: California getting us that that big TV deal. I do remember,
Speaker 1: but but he wasn't showing up the shows. It was
Speaker 1: just Dreamer and Paul would call in and sometimes show
Speaker 1: looked like TV if you remember, right. Yeah, so I
Speaker 1: don't think Paul was his hands on. Plus he was
Speaker 1: already working for w b E. He was right in
Speaker 1: their show. We caught him at Stanford. I know you did,
Speaker 1: And yeah, we were driving up to we were going
Speaker 1: it was the Boston Loop, so we had left the
Speaker 1: day before and Chris Chetty had to go drop a duce,
Speaker 1: so we stopped a McDonald's. So it's we had two vehicles,
Speaker 1: the ring truck and the r kV. So it's me
Speaker 1: and Mikey in the roadkill van and Danny and Chris
Speaker 1: in the in the ring truck. So we're waiting and
Speaker 1: then we look up the road and there's Paul pushing
Speaker 1: his car. He ran out of gas, pushing his car
Speaker 1: to the gas station. Hey, what are you guys doing here?
Speaker 1: We're going to the show. So yeah, exactly, we caught
Speaker 1: him early. But like you said, we're ring crews, were
Speaker 1: you know, low level people. We weren't even working said people.
Speaker 1: I said, no, no, No No, I mean us like as
Speaker 1: far as like you know, you look like Dudley Boys,
Speaker 1: Taz Sabu, r V D, Thos Dreamer, Shane Ol. We
Speaker 1: weren't even on that that radar yet because we weren't
Speaker 1: even really working. We were just ringcord at the time.
Speaker 1: You know, but when these people are leaving, talent has
Speaker 1: to devolve and move up. Yeah, but you can only
Speaker 1: you can only evolve as far as they will let you.
Speaker 1: Did you feel like at this point, did you feel
Speaker 1: like maybe a single run would have been better for
Speaker 1: your career than I don't know. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I got I got over as a tag. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was actually a rumor did you come to you
Speaker 1: didn't come to E three with us? We did E
Speaker 1: three out in California. We were there for like the
Speaker 1: video game convention when when a video Did I get
Speaker 1: to do that? You got to talk to the book? Yes? Yes,
Speaker 1: I wasn't with them. I got a picture with them,
Speaker 1: so I know, I can't. I don't know why I
Speaker 1: didn't get to go on that trip. I don't know
Speaker 1: they would. I don't think there were any any any
Speaker 1: ladies on the other you know what because probably you
Speaker 1: didn't have any to work with. Maybe you didn't have
Speaker 1: anybody to work with. It was mostly like the younger guys,
Speaker 1: like you said, the newer guys. Simon Diamond was there, Carrino, Uh,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but so so we were there two days.
Speaker 1: So Dreamer told me this afterwards. He was going to
Speaker 1: I worked Rhino two days, and Rhino was a TV champion,
Speaker 1: so he was going to have me go over and
Speaker 1: Rhino the first day and then lose it back to
Speaker 1: him the second day. So they would have snuck in
Speaker 1: a TV title for road Kill. That would have been
Speaker 1: fun though. It would have been fun with something cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but other people politicked and and squashed it, and we
Speaker 1: can't say who. I won't say who because then you're
Speaker 1: putting them over. You'll tell me who. Yes, now I'm
Speaker 1: curious as to who that was, because there's heat, there's
Speaker 1: there's there's always heat. But if you put it over,
Speaker 1: you give them, you get them credit. Yeah, just between
Speaker 1: you and I K he'll see. Oh, I won't know anything.
Speaker 1: I totally won't ask. I loved when people would do
Speaker 1: when we would do stuff on house shows that nobody expected,
Speaker 1: So that would have been. I mean, that would have
Speaker 1: been the talk of the town. It would have been
Speaker 1: it would have been people were politics the time, so yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: you know who the politikers are. There were a couple
Speaker 1: of them, but whatever. Yeah, and you were starting to
Speaker 1: say about I was over in WWE. Yes, I heard again.
Speaker 1: I was signed in two thousand and five. Danny and
Speaker 1: I had a couple of weeks of tryouts. We went
Speaker 1: down to ov W for two weeks and had like
Speaker 1: two weeks of tryouts. They ended up signing me but
Speaker 1: not him, which was strange. So I moved down to
Speaker 1: Kentucky in two thousand and five and I was part
Speaker 1: of OVW. So I was down there for a while
Speaker 1: and then east W came back to the One night Stand.
Speaker 1: I know this was after one I said, this is
Speaker 1: the second one night stand. Okay, yes, So I was
Speaker 1: already under developmental I was down in Kentucky at the time,
Speaker 1: and then they had an idea for me with Casey James.
Speaker 1: They were going to bring us up to TV and
Speaker 1: Michelle McCool was going to be our manager, so basically
Speaker 1: doing the same gimmick I had with Dany, just a
Speaker 1: different guy. So it was it was Dusty Rhodes's idea
Speaker 1: keeping roadkill keeping might have changed your name, you think,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. They were still using roll kill.
Speaker 1: We had one dark match and they had brought Casey
Speaker 1: James and I up to TV once in I think Cincinnati, Ohio.
Speaker 1: We wrestled Stephen Regal and Sylvan Granier, and Sylvan did
Speaker 1: not want to work with us, didn't feed the come back,
Speaker 1: and it looked like ship because you're E c W
Speaker 1: or just because he didn't didn't know who you were,
Speaker 1: so to speak. Maybe I don't know what it is,
Speaker 1: but that's just the way the business works now. Plus
Speaker 1: a certain politic of gott into his ear too. Same
Speaker 1: guy California, Yeah, same guy. I think I'm starting to
Speaker 1: figure out who it is, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: I don't know the players time. I think I know
Speaker 1: who it is, but I'll keep it to myself. It's
Speaker 1: all good. I just don't want to give him credit,
Speaker 1: so I read it down. You're gonna test. So we
Speaker 1: had that and then uh, they brought back One's. The
Speaker 1: second one stand was after that. So then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden they plucked me out of that team and
Speaker 1: we're gonna throw me in just e c W because
Speaker 1: they're gonna feed all of this to yes texts. Yes.
Speaker 1: So uh so they said, you know Starney again, you're
Speaker 1: oldest W guy. We're gonna send you to the new
Speaker 1: c W w W E c W. And that was
Speaker 1: kind of it. They were feeding us to the new guys.
Speaker 1: But like I said, luckily I snuck under the radar
Speaker 1: and got a match with Saboo and Sabot. Sabu got
Speaker 1: heat for giving me too much of the match, but
Speaker 1: Sabo's cool with me and and he's awesome. He gave
Speaker 1: he did give me a lot. But like I said,
Speaker 1: I have that. That's that's on YouTube and the network forever. Right.
Speaker 1: You know, that's a nice piece of That's a nice
Speaker 1: piece of my work I can just leave on a shelf. See,
Speaker 1: your story is a little different than mine because you
Speaker 1: were already in developmental and so you knew at one
Speaker 1: point you were hoping they would move you up and
Speaker 1: do something within here's ECW comes back. Perfect fit right,
Speaker 1: well kind of it. Kind of it kind of killed
Speaker 1: my my perfect fit because I had a they took
Speaker 1: me out of eas W. I was already on SmackDown
Speaker 1: because events like my gimmick, so I was already gonna
Speaker 1: be used probably, and then then later on it changed
Speaker 1: again because the night of Sea and Punk's debut with Hammerstein,
Speaker 1: he still need like a like a live show. I
Speaker 1: think big show and Batista might have made one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was huge at the time. So they flew me
Speaker 1: up for that, and I ended up wrestling Steve Richards
Speaker 1: and the first time I wrestled in front of Vince.
Speaker 1: So I'm in the ring selling and that's before the show.
Speaker 1: Paul introduced me. You know, I was a full gimmick,
Speaker 1: the hat, you know, the Undertaker hat and all the gimmick,
Speaker 1: come over the rail and meet Vince and Paul's talking
Speaker 1: me up. So I'm like, okay, that's cool because they
Speaker 1: had just flown me up to do a cardio test
Speaker 1: to my knowledge. Now all of a sudden, Here'm more
Speaker 1: going to dark magicains Steve right, so I work the match.
Speaker 1: Michael Hayes goes, hey, can you work heel kid? I go,
Speaker 1: uh yeah, yeah, it's just maybe a little you see
Speaker 1: my work. They just acted like like blind to the business. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, because they didn't I guess they didn't want
Speaker 1: to look like marks. I guess I don't know wish
Speaker 1: they all are anyways, So everybody, everybody's a mark man,
Speaker 1: We're all marks. It's all about the chalk. Uh so.
Speaker 1: Uh so I worked the match. I'm sitting there selling.
Speaker 1: Stevie goes over, I'm selling, and you know, I want
Speaker 1: to still want to get up and get my get
Speaker 1: my get my pop, get my heat back at the Ammerstein. Yeah,
Speaker 1: who knows what I'm gonna be there again? Right so,
Speaker 1: uh Refre gets some moody. He goes, hey, get in
Speaker 1: the back right now. Vince wants to talk to you.
Speaker 1: And I was like, shit, I'm fired. I will dry it.
Speaker 1: I'm done. That's it. I had a good run. Let
Speaker 1: me get I had a good run. It's over. So
Speaker 1: I get I get to the back and I go
Speaker 1: to the curtain and Johnny's waiting for me right there.
Speaker 1: Hey kid, come here. Vince wants to talk to you
Speaker 1: right now. So he literally walks me over to Vince
Speaker 1: and have a conversation with Vince like, I'm talking to
Speaker 1: you guys. I want to know your backstory, it this
Speaker 1: and the anything, but you know, will your nationality, any hobbies,
Speaker 1: any of this? I was like, Okay, here I am.
Speaker 1: Two seconds ago I thought I was getting fired. Now
Speaker 1: he wants to know my whole backstory. Now you're having
Speaker 1: tea with them, Yeah, talking about life, how's it going,
Speaker 1: How's how's the XFL. So, so I'm talking to him talking.
Speaker 1: He goes, I like the way you work, but I
Speaker 1: don't like your gimmick. I'm gonna cut the beard off,
Speaker 1: put you in a pair of trunks. Change. So that
Speaker 1: goes that, that goes against what you said that he
Speaker 1: liked the gimmick, because yeah, that's what I heard. But
Speaker 1: so that's when I became Polish. So I kind of
Speaker 1: like I have now I am Polish. Yeah, change from
Speaker 1: homage to Polish. Right, give me gimmick, change infringement. The
Speaker 1: Polish people are gonna be kissed now. No, they were
Speaker 1: gonna that they they hadn't had a Polish guy since Potsky,
Speaker 1: and they tried with Scott, with Scott Junior, but it
Speaker 1: never caught on, you know, And they were gonna have
Speaker 1: me come from Wisconsin and all this other crap, and
Speaker 1: they gave me like a so so, like I said,
Speaker 1: Vince said, I'm gonna cut your beard off, put you
Speaker 1: in a pair of trunks and uh, we'll go with that.
Speaker 1: And I was just like, what the hell just happened?
Speaker 1: And I'm talking to the owner of the company that
Speaker 1: you know, I followed Mitafana for years and now he
Speaker 1: wants to use me. Yeah, okay, So I cut the
Speaker 1: beard off, which I got heat for duty. Dusty had
Speaker 1: called me and said, hey, kid, we want you to
Speaker 1: cut the beard off. You know, the next TV you
Speaker 1: want see what you look like. We get a pair
Speaker 1: of trunks and uh, put you just cut the beard off.
Speaker 1: We'll go right. So I get the TV. Nobody recognized
Speaker 1: me after reintroduce myself again to people I've seen like
Speaker 1: like last week, I just cut the beard off. Yea.
Speaker 1: So Paul goes, what did you do? Who told you
Speaker 1: to cut it off? What do you Apparently he booked
Speaker 1: me and Danny against the bash and so we're gonna
Speaker 1: we're gonna put them over on TV before they switched
Speaker 1: my camera. There's the conspiracy against all of us, Francine. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's instead of making money with us, they just toy
Speaker 1: with all of us. Did what did Paul say when
Speaker 1: you said vince me to do that? Well, Dusty actually
Speaker 1: called me and said the cut, physically cut it off
Speaker 1: before I come back to TV. Yeah. But but meanwhile
Speaker 1: Vince is showing you I don't like your gimmick. Ever
Speaker 1: of the beard. Yes, no one gave Paul the memo.
Speaker 1: No one gave Paul the memo, or he acted like
Speaker 1: no one gave him the memo. And then I could
Speaker 1: care less because at that point he wasn't my boss anymore,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But he wasn't. He wasn't
Speaker 1: writing to pay checks. Those No, they weren't made a
Speaker 1: rubber no more dribble dribble. Yeah, bouncing the rubber checks,
Speaker 1: you know, I know I got I got at least
Speaker 1: ten of them. And he was bouncing the ring crew
Speaker 1: checks at the time too. Oh yeah, So how how
Speaker 1: are we supposed to have a show and generating new
Speaker 1: money if the ring crew checks are bouncing. That's to
Speaker 1: get the ring truck there, to get the rings set
Speaker 1: up the ring? Yeah, exactly what are we going to do? Exactly?
Speaker 1: Were the ships man? Yeah? No, but we but we
Speaker 1: made the best of it. Though. We still have great
Speaker 1: memories from from those days, and we we can still talk
Speaker 1: about just a little bit. He said, they hired you,
Speaker 1: and they didn't they didn't want Danny. Yeah, did that
Speaker 1: cause heat between the two of you? Not from my end,
Speaker 1: and I don't. I don't think from his end, because
Speaker 1: it's out of our control. What am I gonna say?
Speaker 1: What am I gonna say? No? I can't take the
Speaker 1: job unless you take Danny's too. No, And you can't
Speaker 1: do that unless it's your wife or something like that.
Speaker 1: And even still I don't get it, and vice versa.
Speaker 1: If you would have been hired and they didn't hire me,
Speaker 1: what can I say? Good for you? Understand it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because it's out of our control. It sucked and we
Speaker 1: ended up back together later on, and then they swashed
Speaker 1: it again because we were getting over the house shows.
Speaker 1: We did those that over and then they just put
Speaker 1: the cash on everything. That's it. We don't. I will
Speaker 1: never understand that about that company. You know why? Because
Speaker 1: they have money. They don't care. It's their show. But
Speaker 1: we can make them more money. Don't you want to
Speaker 1: get more money? Yes, but they don't care. It's your idea,
Speaker 1: it's not their idea. But it just does this leave
Speaker 1: you disenchant it after this whole experience. No, like I said,
Speaker 1: I enjoyed the time. I had. I had a lot
Speaker 1: of great experiences and a lot of great memories, but
Speaker 1: I guess disenchanted that is that I don't want to
Speaker 1: tune anymore. Yes, okay, like I've I've seen, I've seen
Speaker 1: behind the curtain, I've seen the magic of it. I've
Speaker 1: seen how you know, I've seen David Copperfield does the magic.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't relate anymore, you know, I
Speaker 1: just there's no there's no three hundred pound guys that
Speaker 1: I want to watch on TV. The guys fit in
Speaker 1: my pocket now. These guys all like they look no offense.
Speaker 1: That there's a lot of talent out there, but a
Speaker 1: lot of them were like backyard guys, especially in the
Speaker 1: newer company, that my dog could beat up. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: know I reached out to you when I had my show,
Speaker 1: and you were just flat out just now yeah after
Speaker 1: after Okay, I think he's bitter at something because I
Speaker 1: couldn't even at that point, I couldn't even talk to you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it was it had nothing to do with you.
Speaker 1: It was it was it was all when towards the end,
Speaker 1: I broke my neck. I net even see that. See
Speaker 1: the lion right there, Ye, let me see. So that
Speaker 1: was fusion surgery. So one of my last matches with
Speaker 1: w W when I was the developmental I uh. I
Speaker 1: was wrestling Matt Sidel Evan Bourne and we called a
Speaker 1: dive and I rolled out to the floor and he
Speaker 1: said he was gonna jump over the top rope alan
Speaker 1: chest to chest right. So spot comes. I roll out
Speaker 1: to the floor, I take the tilt the world, roll
Speaker 1: out to the floor, and I'm this crash pad. If
Speaker 1: he wipes out, you know he's he's done. He can't
Speaker 1: work again. So it's my job to catch a guy running.
Speaker 1: He has the ropes, runs, jumps, and he starts sinking. Now,
Speaker 1: in my head, you gotta think quick because now it's
Speaker 1: his human body coming at you. In my head, I
Speaker 1: thought he caught his knee pad. So I took a
Speaker 1: step forward to catch him, and he caught wheeled on
Speaker 1: me and crushed the disk. That's not that's not what
Speaker 1: we discussed. M hmm. That's not what we discuss at all.
Speaker 1: So I got knocked out. Knocked out. I finished the match,
Speaker 1: and I wasn't able to squeeze my hands like I
Speaker 1: wasn't able to do. I couldn't feel this so finished
Speaker 1: the match another like five or ten minutes and drove
Speaker 1: home still knocked out from it was like a two
Speaker 1: hour drive. We were I think we were like in London.
Speaker 1: There were some it's in front of two hundred people
Speaker 1: in an armory for OVW, which wasn't even tellvied it
Speaker 1: was a house show. I lost my neck and essentially
Speaker 1: my career. So that left a bitter taste in my
Speaker 1: mouth because they ended up releasing me while I was
Speaker 1: still injured. But they but they didn't know. They didn't know,
Speaker 1: so I gave them benefit of the doubt and they said,
Speaker 1: what do you want. I go, well, I want to
Speaker 1: extend my contract get the surgery done. So they did
Speaker 1: right by me. They took care of surgery and all
Speaker 1: the expenses and everything and paid me for the recovery time. Okay, Now,
Speaker 1: in the meantime I was doing I stayed in OVW.
Speaker 1: Danny Davis let me stay and I learn how to
Speaker 1: like book and do promos and stuff like that and
Speaker 1: write TV. So I was doing all that stuff and
Speaker 1: then one day I woke up and said I just
Speaker 1: don't want this anymore. And it was like I explained it,
Speaker 1: like this is like a relationship. It's like a fourteen
Speaker 1: year relationship. I woke up and said, I love you,
Speaker 1: but I'm not in low it anymore. I'm done. And
Speaker 1: that was it. And that's the time where you started
Speaker 1: reaching out. I'm sorry said that. No, no, no, I
Speaker 1: get it. But but like I said, it had nothing
Speaker 1: to do with you. It was just that's where I
Speaker 1: wanted nothing to do with the business at the time.
Speaker 1: I wanted you there because I love you and you
Speaker 1: were part of my family, and even if you put
Speaker 1: in work, I just wanted you there. I appreciate it,
Speaker 1: and we've talked about this and we you know, it's
Speaker 1: water under the bridge and stuff. But I just felt
Speaker 1: like you were just like no, yeah, But but it
Speaker 1: wasn't towards you, I know, but I didn't at the time.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't know all this was going on,
Speaker 1: you know, because we live because we lived different lives.
Speaker 1: You know, you got you got married, kids and you
Speaker 1: and I wasn't. I wasn't really in the business anymore,
Speaker 1: per se. I didn't. You know, it wasn't in the sheets.
Speaker 1: I didn't have Twitter, so I didn't know what was
Speaker 1: if you want in the sheets, I did to get
Speaker 1: the kids in the bathroom. Sweet whatever, But I just like,
Speaker 1: I'm just so glad that everything is fixed and we've
Speaker 1: kept in touch and everything's good. Where are you at now?
Speaker 1: I know where you're at, But tell them I'm in
Speaker 1: Long Island right, No, no no, no, no, we're not going
Speaker 1: to Yeah. The marks already exposed it. It's exposed. I
Speaker 1: got I got fan mail to my house. I was like,
Speaker 1: welcome to my world. Yeah. It was just it's just weird.
Speaker 1: Like I got two pieces like in two days. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, it's a community, roadkill, it's a community.
Speaker 1: It's a big, big thing. But you don't even need
Speaker 1: to tell them. No, there there's Facebook groups. It's called
Speaker 1: through the mail autograph collecting. But why you get for
Speaker 1: free to I don't know. No, there's no freebies. I'm listening.
Speaker 1: If either one of those wolfs had money in them,
Speaker 1: they would have got their stuff. But hey, I'm a
Speaker 1: big fan and here's a here's eight by ten. Yeah right,
Speaker 1: and guess what. And of course it's like anything. They
Speaker 1: get pissed when people want money, so you get nothing
Speaker 1: for nothing. Man, that's right. What do you do now
Speaker 1: for a living? Tell? Tell everybody we're because you're not
Speaker 1: social media. You're not really. I kind of kind of
Speaker 1: like lived the Amish lifestyle on a shoot. I don't
Speaker 1: even have a TV. I got rid of it. No TV.
Speaker 1: I borrow. I borrow the Internet from my neighbors. They
Speaker 1: give me the wireless code and that's it. That's awesome.
Speaker 1: It's doing very good. I can tell you you have
Speaker 1: no bad connection. You've had a better one than for it.
Speaker 1: You were gonna kick. I was gonna be a roadkill
Speaker 1: for the rest of high text iPhone and steal the
Speaker 1: Wi Fi. Maybe just always working man, always working again.
Speaker 1: I'm wearing boxer shorts right now to fantastic. I'm always
Speaker 1: comfortable down here. No one can ever see it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what are you? What are you doing with your life
Speaker 1: right now? I'm surviving. I'm surviving outside of the w bubble.
Speaker 1: I do a lot of eBay sales, and I was
Speaker 1: actually able to during this pandemic quit quit my real
Speaker 1: job in retail and just work from my house, hang
Speaker 1: out with my dogs all day, just take pictures of
Speaker 1: stuff I have around the house, because I've been collecting
Speaker 1: stuff for years. I have in ECW. I would travel
Speaker 1: to I was collecting figures. When East wus up and running,
Speaker 1: I'd be home most of the week, so I wake
Speaker 1: up around noon and snipe stuff off eBay and get
Speaker 1: stuff really cheap, and I would just I've hoarded it
Speaker 1: for twenty years, so it's like LJN Figures, WWFLJ and
Speaker 1: Figures Loose and card and Hasbro figures and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: And when we were on the road, also other states
Speaker 1: didn't have other states had stores that New York didn't have.
Speaker 1: Walmartin Target were not on Long Island yet, So when
Speaker 1: we go to Florida, I knew who the target was
Speaker 1: on the way down. So I'd stop a Target by
Speaker 1: Target with solicism and bring it back up here and
Speaker 1: do bulls with a comic book shop here and some
Speaker 1: you know, and I put stuff away brother from another
Speaker 1: mother here. I say the exact thing. But it's so
Speaker 1: but it's so easy. I'd rather sell toys and be
Speaker 1: digging a dick somewhere or setting up a scaffold or
Speaker 1: working with people you know. But you know what I
Speaker 1: didn't understand about you. One of the first times I
Speaker 1: saw you after me being out of the business, like
Speaker 1: I came back obviously everybody comes back once or twice
Speaker 1: in their life, and ye come, we never retire. But
Speaker 1: you were you were at a table, but not as
Speaker 1: road kill. Yeah, I h you're just selling stuff? And
Speaker 1: I right, and what are you doing? Like why are
Speaker 1: you not roadkill right now? Because we're all in like Gemrick,
Speaker 1: so to speak, and and you're just hanging out selling
Speaker 1: because most people don't recognize me. Number one, if I
Speaker 1: just did it as roadkill, I'd probably make little to
Speaker 1: no money. If you're in your gear, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: wear that gear I sold too. No, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't have to do anything. I'll sell merchandise. I'll sell merchandise.
Speaker 1: So I've gotten my own booth. At most shows like
Speaker 1: Legends of the Ring and Big Event, I would buy
Speaker 1: my own booth and set up wrestling figures, and I
Speaker 1: would look through the collection I have and find guys
Speaker 1: that we're going to be there, say like Bibbili Jim's
Speaker 1: gonna be there. I'd dig up his figures, or Tito
Speaker 1: Sihan is going to be there, of Bruce Beefcake. I
Speaker 1: find the figures that I have and bring it to
Speaker 1: the show and sell it. Because people sometimes can't get
Speaker 1: it in time to get it signed to the show.
Speaker 1: Here I have it, and then they run over and
Speaker 1: get the signature from so that they buy it for me.
Speaker 1: And Dreamer actually told me he popped because I did
Speaker 1: a show with the Erena the Icons. I sold the
Speaker 1: Tommy Dreamer figure to somebody and the fans that bought
Speaker 1: it from me was like, hey, I just brought to
Speaker 1: some roll. He was recited that he bought it from me.
Speaker 1: They kill and then he got signed by tom Wow.
Speaker 1: So so so I'm making money regardless. So you're you're
Speaker 1: against You're against dressing like roadkilling and coming back for
Speaker 1: maybe an c W reunion or something. You know you
Speaker 1: did it for. Yeah, but I didn't get dressed up,
Speaker 1: but you came back as roadkill and he signed his Roadkill.
Speaker 1: I did come back and sign and people because if
Speaker 1: I if I'm helping somebody work on something for next year,
Speaker 1: can I call you and say you'll you'll do it.
Speaker 1: It's not what the hat to wear, the suspenders, just
Speaker 1: the hat, well the original hat is gone, but just replica.
Speaker 1: Well maybe maybe it depends. Maybe hang out just to
Speaker 1: come and hang out. Well, I can't hang out like
Speaker 1: this man, why why we got to be like that?
Speaker 1: Because gimmick, because you don't have to be in gimicked.
Speaker 1: Well that's to me, that's in gimmick. I remember, I
Speaker 1: remember we did Danny United one signing when I first
Speaker 1: came back, and the guys that we want you in gimmick.
Speaker 1: So like I wore like a white shirt, no suspenders,
Speaker 1: no hat. Here you go. What's you gonna say? You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? I had no beard and I
Speaker 1: don't care. I just if if my thing happens. Okay,
Speaker 1: technically me, I'm helping Ka the Marks. Let me know
Speaker 1: if what happens, we'll just talk off camera, all right,
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, can I try and include you? Yes?
Speaker 1: What do you want to do it? Okay, that's good.
Speaker 1: Where where can they find you on eBay? Nowhere? Come on?
Speaker 1: I'm actually uh. I used the name Darth Giants one
Speaker 1: word d A R T H G I A N
Speaker 1: T Star Wars. It's you're not a Star Wars Mark.
Speaker 1: You got to Disney all the time. How can you
Speaker 1: not be a Star Wars Mark? Listen? I walked through
Speaker 1: the Galaxy's Edge and I was like, Oh, that's cure,
Speaker 1: that's cure. That's care. I'm already on. I'm already on
Speaker 1: road kill. I can't I don't know the line. I
Speaker 1: couldn't even get on the freaking ride. My kids were like,
Speaker 1: why can't we get on these Riyes, I was like,
Speaker 1: because I didn't wake up four o'clock. Because because they're over.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm not anymore. Yeah, no, I'm not a
Speaker 1: big mark for the new Disney Star Wars. I've got
Speaker 1: what we were talking about before starting. Yeah, it's so
Speaker 1: the Dark Giant thing. So basically, if you if you
Speaker 1: hunt me down on eBay, like I said, one more
Speaker 1: dark Giant, all the same, same, There's no capital letters
Speaker 1: or anything, but it's the picture of Andre the Giant
Speaker 1: from Princess Bride when he was the dread Pirates or
Speaker 1: dread Pirate Roberts. He found me already what that was
Speaker 1: finding the hardy Boys figures that popped up, some foam fingers,
Speaker 1: some phone the original thing. But I've got everything, but
Speaker 1: I've saved it. I just said that most of the
Speaker 1: guys sold it all for for pennies on the dollar
Speaker 1: because they needed the money for whatever. I just saved
Speaker 1: it because I was He's their own he's their own man. Hey,
Speaker 1: whatever whatever your dale is man, whatever right I got,
Speaker 1: but I saved it. Like when he's W shut down,
Speaker 1: I was. Tommy had worked it out where because I
Speaker 1: had the big van. So I was bringing shirts to
Speaker 1: the show and he was. He was covering my my travel,
Speaker 1: so he paid for a second room for us for
Speaker 1: the ring crew. They paid for gas, tolls and expenses
Speaker 1: pretty much just by bringing merchandise for the show. So
Speaker 1: I became friends with the guy that made the shirts.
Speaker 1: So when he CW folded, I took all his old
Speaker 1: dead stock I just got. I just sold a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of FTW tank tops when Taz left. Taz had
Speaker 1: an FTW line that never took off because he went
Speaker 1: a WWE. Yeah, but but I had to I had
Speaker 1: to pay my dues to get that connection. So so
Speaker 1: there was there was I remember there was one loop.
Speaker 1: We were in Connecticut and then Philly the next night.
Speaker 1: So we ended the show in Connecticut, like you said,
Speaker 1: set up the ring break down the ring. I drove
Speaker 1: home that night, woke up the next morning, picked up
Speaker 1: a ton of shirts, filled my van, and then drove
Speaker 1: down a Philly by myself. Wow, because because that's how
Speaker 1: much merchandise you were selling. But but now look get
Speaker 1: paid off because look at everything, but everything pays off,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean everything. There's a reason. There's
Speaker 1: a reason for everything. You don't know what it is
Speaker 1: at the time, but everything pays off of Actually, I
Speaker 1: love this, this positive rogue kill because like back in
Speaker 1: the day, like not the ships. But I would be
Speaker 1: like because I tried to be positive, and he'd be like, like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just you have to sometimes you have
Speaker 1: to because there's so much negative craft people motivate him
Speaker 1: and make them happy. And his face would be like,
Speaker 1: and now you're just you're just this happy. You seem
Speaker 1: like more happy, happy, jolly. Yeah. I know, no wife,
Speaker 1: no kids, two dogs, no job, no job, no job,
Speaker 1: no uh no, no paying for internet free uh no,
Speaker 1: TV always work and that always worked. I met uh,
Speaker 1: I just posted a picture. I met the girl from
Speaker 1: Stranger Things. I don't know what her name is. The
Speaker 1: main star she played eleven. Did you watch Netflix? You
Speaker 1: watch Netflix? No, okay, so you don't who she is either.
Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about, but I know what
Speaker 1: you're talking about. So I did vending. I did round
Speaker 1: a Comic Con for the last six years, which is awesome.
Speaker 1: I set up a booth and everything, and so all
Speaker 1: kinds of fit, not just wrestling. There's all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 1: So I get like celebrities and stuff like that. So
Speaker 1: I was I was using this restroom that I'd normally
Speaker 1: use all time because I would get there like two
Speaker 1: days before and set up, and people in the building
Speaker 1: knew me, so I could just walk around wherever, like
Speaker 1: I own the place, right. So shows going on, I
Speaker 1: go take a break, I go to the restroom, come out,
Speaker 1: and I hear the English voice. I'm like, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: I know this girl's here doing like, you know, autographs
Speaker 1: and stuff. I go, excuse me, you might have been
Speaker 1: taking a picture with you goes yeah, sure, cheers, you know,
Speaker 1: quick picture, blooming them out. Meanwhile, people playing like sixty
Speaker 1: to one hundred dollars to get a picture with her.
Speaker 1: I just got one a in her locker room. Basically
Speaker 1: he can get the free stuff. How to just work,
Speaker 1: Just working man, just working man. That's right. Well, I
Speaker 1: am so pleased that you came on. Thank you for
Speaker 1: having a lot. Of course, I know a lot of
Speaker 1: people have wondered where you've been rock. That's it. I'd
Speaker 1: rather be off the map than under the radar, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I don't. I just don't. Just
Speaker 1: nobody's business. Listen. If you're happy that it's life, that's
Speaker 1: all that matters. So you're you're doing something right. I'm
Speaker 1: very very happy for you. I'm so happy that you
Speaker 1: and I are still friends, and I I want to
Speaker 1: see you somewhere next year. So if it happens, okay,
Speaker 1: let me know, keep me a form. But I don't know.
Speaker 1: But the gimmick appearance gimmick? Am I not? Well, maybe
Speaker 1: not in gimmick. Maybe just like a white shirt. Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe we'll see I have I might have roll
Speaker 1: Killed shirts by then. Oh then that's perfect. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: you are to wear an East W shirt. I still
Speaker 1: have them. Listen, I don't care if you come in
Speaker 1: in your underwear and you got it, you got sold.
Speaker 1: White people looks weird because I got big cans to
Speaker 1: around and they hang out the size like mudflaps. Everybody
Speaker 1: go to road Kills eBay store, Darth. There will be
Speaker 1: noose there. You go. Thank you, I love you, Thanks me,
Speaker 1: and I'll talk to you. Chad. Good to meet you.
Speaker 1: I think I think passing at the at the shows.
Speaker 1: Did you bring him? Having puts you at one time
Speaker 1: at the arena? No, I had Bundy at the last
Speaker 1: Icons December two years ago, and that was the last
Speaker 1: time I was at ICONS. But I told Francine before,
Speaker 1: I said, the first time I saw you at Icons,
Speaker 1: I was like, I feel like I know this guy.
Speaker 1: And then I walked around and that's why I know him.
Speaker 1: Ro Kill text me that the heat person. You know
Speaker 1: who he is. We worked them a long time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but here I'll give you another used to used to
Speaker 1: travel with the sound guy. All right, I'll text you. No,
Speaker 1: I think I know. I'll text you now and you
Speaker 1: tell me, well, I can't text him on the phone. Man,
Speaker 1: get off, take it, take it home, get the hook,
Speaker 1: Get this guy out of here holding the pencil off.
Speaker 1: You gotta go. Sorry, it's all good. Take care of
Speaker 1: ro Kill. Ill Bye. He's hilarious. Okay, I hope I'm right.
Speaker 1: I haven't I hope I'm right. All right, Well, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna start reading Manscape because we were right out
Speaker 1: of time for our whole entire day. I'm sorry, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: you're great. No, I love it. I can listen to
Speaker 1: you talk to your buddies. You're right, thank you. That
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Speaker 1: you know you think Corona's getting better and it's starting
Speaker 1: to get worse apparently boo. Yeah, and I meant to
Speaker 1: tell you. So we had a scare, not in the
Speaker 1: house scare, but at my little one's daycare. A parent
Speaker 1: oh no, so we pulled her out as we pulled
Speaker 1: her out as precaution for two weeks. Are they saying
Speaker 1: that the kids gotta have to get tested or I'm
Speaker 1: assuming that the kid, like of the parent, got tested,
Speaker 1: but we're just being safe and we took her out
Speaker 1: for two weeks just we don't want we don't want
Speaker 1: to commingle anything. So yeah, Gary, Yeah, Gary, scary. Well
Speaker 1: I had to wrap up. Yeah, let's do it. What
Speaker 1: are we doing on Patreon this week? Oh? Good call?
Speaker 1: So I don't know, we've got more. We got more
Speaker 1: Fan Appreciation Month? Had your way? Uh, that's for damn sure.
Speaker 1: And because of Fan Appreciation Month, maybe maybe I think
Speaker 1: we might do one of our two things that we planned.
Speaker 1: But I know we are definitely doing. We're gonna do
Speaker 1: some asm mar this week. I already watched it. I
Speaker 1: watched it already. I've been told I have to keep
Speaker 1: it down very very faintly. Okay, yeah, so a watch along.
Speaker 1: I think we might have to forego the watch along
Speaker 1: only because we have two of our friends joining us
Speaker 1: this week. If that changes, I do have one, but
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say what it is, just in case,
Speaker 1: just in case, just in case, because we have some
Speaker 1: also extra recording we're doing, which is good. So yeah,
Speaker 1: you'll forego just possibly possibly Okay, sounds good if you
Speaker 1: want to follow me at Chad E and B on Twitter, Exclusives,
Speaker 1: dot com, uh autographs, autograph signings, a couple of new
Speaker 1: ones coming. We're already planning January when you think about that,
Speaker 1: already thinking that far ahead. Yeah, anything else, Diamond Conversations.
Speaker 1: Diamond Conversations going to be coming back in a few weeks.
Speaker 1: I might be moving it, so okay, kind of put
Speaker 1: it on baus for about three weeks and wait till
Speaker 1: January first to restart season two. Okay, I am across
Speaker 1: the board on social media at ECW Diva Francine. I'm
Speaker 1: going to announce it now. I'm going to start doing
Speaker 1: holiday cameos everyone. I have some outfits that I bought
Speaker 1: specifically for the holiday season. Okay, So I'm also going
Speaker 1: to be singing some Christmas carols if anyone's interested in
Speaker 1: my singing, which people that have got Happy Birthday messages
Speaker 1: know that my voice sucks, but I still give it
Speaker 1: a hundred percent. So yeah, Christmas cameos. It's actually go
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