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Speaker 1: This is Eyes up Here. You're listening to a brand

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Speaker 1: form only. And he didn't know by now. My name

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Speaker 1: is Chad and every single week I'm joined here by

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Speaker 1: the host of the show, the one that Eyes up

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Speaker 1: Here was named for, the great Queen of extreme fancy.

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Speaker 1: That's me. Hello, how are you lovely? I'm doing great, fantastic, fantastic.

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Speaker 1: I am sleepy, but I am here and I'm ready

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Speaker 1: to rock. You're a sleepy bee. I am a sleepy

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Speaker 1: bitch today. Yes? Is that what you I just say,

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Speaker 1: sleepy bee? I don't know. It can be give you

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Speaker 1: a literal B if you wanted it to be. It

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Speaker 1: could be a letter B. Slippy bitch. Yeah. I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to be in a bitch mood though. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to be happy and cheerful and ready to go because

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Speaker 1: we got a st show today. We do. We have

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Speaker 1: a stacked lineup. You know, our recording lineup is stacked.

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Speaker 1: We have a stacked show. There's a lot of stuff

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Speaker 1: going on. It's a good week though, I'm very uh,

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Speaker 1: I'm very happy to be sitting in a chair just

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Speaker 1: because for me, you know, and you it's Friday. So

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Speaker 1: every time I sit down, I just know after we're done,

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Speaker 1: like the day is almost over. Oh yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you can see this. Look at

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Speaker 1: this catatrophe. Oh okay, I have three band dates and

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Speaker 1: they're all falling off. Oh what'd you do? Uh? So

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Speaker 1: I was cooking last night and I was using tongues

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Speaker 1: and they were metal tongues. And when I squeeze, when

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Speaker 1: you squeeze the top, you know, to close them. My

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Speaker 1: middle and I took the chunk of my tip of

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Speaker 1: my middle finger off. Ouch. Yeah. And I was bleeding.

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Speaker 1: My son was subtled down. I'll live, you know, but

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Speaker 1: I was trying to it was bleeding a lot, so

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Speaker 1: got three. That band aid looks like it seemed like

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Speaker 1: better days, you know what. I've wore it in the showers.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's the end of them. And I forgot to

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Speaker 1: switch it before I came down. I didn't even put

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Speaker 1: my wedding ring on today. I was just running a

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Speaker 1: monk so, hey, I'm single today. I rarely put it

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Speaker 1: when I'm just like around the house. I don't put

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Speaker 1: it on because it either it bothers me. And since

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Speaker 1: I lost all my weight, I've had instances where if

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Speaker 1: I go like this, you just go. When you do

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Speaker 1: your single ladies dance, you see the ring, just go,

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Speaker 1: you know, on the side of the room. That's hilarious. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I usually wear mine for air, but I ran downstairs

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Speaker 1: But I do have some bling on my shirt, very blank,

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Speaker 1: but you don't see it. It's not all right, you

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Speaker 1: can't tell there's bling, Okay, all right, Now I can

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Speaker 1: Now I see it much better. Yeah, this is unnecessary.

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Speaker 1: I wish this wasn't here, and it was just yeah,

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Speaker 1: don't know what the problems are. I don't really sympathize,

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Speaker 1: know they were. They were bigger man. I swear the

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Speaker 1: wearing jeans now. Granted didn't wear them for like five

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Speaker 1: especially quarantined today. I have one boxer shorts. Oh, Missy

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Speaker 1: Hyatt these shorts years ago when she worked at the

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Speaker 1: China Club in Sarasota, Florida. Interesting, Okay, they don't really

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Speaker 1: it's forty eight degrees outside. Oh my gosh, is it really? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: It's chilly up here. Did you have the like insane

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Speaker 1: heat earlier in the week. Okay, Yeah we did. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We had three days in a row where we went

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Speaker 1: on hikes and went went walking and it's just beautiful,

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Speaker 1: beautiful weather. And I'll tell you funny story real quick.

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Speaker 1: We went on a nature hike, all four of us,

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Speaker 1: My son goes people people, and I said, it's okay,

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Speaker 1: Did you? Did you get up those hills the night before?

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Speaker 1: I took a horrible bump. I yeah, I did my

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Speaker 1: said to myself, it's such a beautiful day, I want

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Speaker 1: like you need a built in crowd noise in your house,

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Speaker 1: being like she's hardcore, She's hardcore, dumb. I didn't want

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Speaker 1: to do that. It wasn't a planned spot. Let me

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Speaker 1: tell you. It hurt like hell and I'm still suffering

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Speaker 1: find a new chiropractor. But yeah, I fell really really hard,

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Speaker 1: we walked in. Now the last three days have been rainy,

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Speaker 1: was it was bad. Of course, it all started the

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Speaker 1: into Virginia Beach. You know, I was at a very

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Speaker 1: nice day spa resort. It was very nice. This was

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Speaker 1: the view at the place. Oh wow, do you see

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Speaker 1: what the weather looked like? It was blue skies, beautiful

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Speaker 1: that weird? An hour and no, two hours and twenty

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Speaker 1: the nature is a crazy thing sometimes, but yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: a beautiful pit. It was funny because so this the

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Speaker 1: resort is called the Founders in Okay. Their claim to

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Speaker 1: fame was that they had a swan on the grounds

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Speaker 1: of the spa named Abigail. Okay. So I've been going

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Speaker 1: to this place for like twelve years, you know, on

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Speaker 1: the kids got to know the swan. They know the swana.

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Speaker 1: Where's Abigail? Where's Abigail? So I was doing my business

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Speaker 1: at this place, and it was one of my autograph signings.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to make it sound like it was.

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Speaker 1: I thought, you're just going for a massage. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: no no. I was doing one of my autograph signings

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Speaker 1: at this place, and uh, my daughter goes, hey, could

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Speaker 1: you get a picture of the swan? So I go,

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Speaker 1: of course, I will love Abby. She's great. So I

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Speaker 1: go to the desk. He said, hey, you know I'm

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Speaker 1: you know, And she goes, oh, no, the swan has

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Speaker 1: I go, so you guys have a new swan. She goes, No,

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Speaker 1: All of life is a work. I love Arcade, everybody

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Speaker 1: You so so was Team TAZ and you're was that

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Speaker 1: If I said that, the Shazzi probably bought me harder. Yeah, probably,

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Speaker 1: back for the easy loop. You know, did you drive

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00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 1: by yourself? No? I think it was part of the

421
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 1: ring crew again. Okay, so you had the truck these

422
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 1: guys or the r kvs. It's called I have to

423
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 1: put you guys over because we have I've had so

424
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 1: many easy I will I had so many a CW

425
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 1: guys on here, and Mike was one of them. We

426
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 1: talked about ring crew. When I tell you the dedication,

427
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I know part of it was they had

428
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 1: to do it because it was part it was part

429
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,679
Speaker 1: of their d But my god, I used to feel

430
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: so bad because we'd get there and they and we

431
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 1: got there pretty early and they'd already be there for hours,

432
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 1: just driving through the middle of the night setting up.

433
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: They had to work, they would have to wait, they'd

434
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 1: have to break it down, drive to the next town,

435
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 1: and I would I remember always saying, did you guys

436
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 1: get any sleep last night? Or you okay? Did you

437
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: eat some breakfast? Like I felt so sad for well, guys,

438
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 1: Well you should have felt bad, because that's us paying

439
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 1: our dues. That's just coming up. But I and that's

440
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 1: that's also how we gained the respect of everybody in

441
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 1: the locker room because they saw how hard, how hard

442
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: we were working, and we didn't complain at all. So

443
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 1: a typical day, we'd get up, go get some breakfast,

444
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 1: then we drive to the building. So we'd have to

445
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 1: beat the building I think by like twelve or one

446
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 1: o'clock the latest, get and get the ring set up

447
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 1: in case people want to work out whatever it's something breaks,

448
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 1: we can fix it before way before the show, and

449
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,360
Speaker 1: TV was definitely twelve o'clock. Sometimes in the area, we'd

450
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 1: get there ten or eleven. Yeah, I remember, I remember

451
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 1: like the day we did the barbed wire for Saboo.

452
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 1: We met him at the arena and he showed me

453
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: how to set up the ropes how he wanted him done. Wow. Yeah.

454
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: So so the typical ring crew day was, like you said,

455
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: we drive there, set up the ring, set up the chairs,

456
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 1: set up the entrance away, set up banners. That's just

457
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: for a house show, I now. Then we'd go get

458
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: some neat come back, work out in the ring with Tracy,

459
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: Tracy smell guy and man, what's your deal? Man, he's

460
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: he's awesome. Yeah, watch exc sound for that dog? Remember

461
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: that riot? So uh so we work out with Tracy.

462
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: Doors would open if we were still part of teen

463
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 1: Tesol do Team tas maybe someone wust work a match,

464
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: and then like you said, we break down a ring

465
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 1: and then drive to the next town because we had

466
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: to be there the next day for twelve o'clock. I know,

467
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 1: but you know, the mother and me would always be

468
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 1: and I wasn't even a mother back then, but I

469
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: just had the instinct. Just yeah, I just had that

470
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 1: mother lan and sing and I would always walk around

471
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: the locker okay it is everybody all right, need to

472
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: get some rest, and they're all looking at really shut up,

473
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: you know, what. I just cared about everybody there was.

474
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: There was sometimes when I would disappear because I had

475
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 1: the r KAV and I would just go just find

476
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: a spot and just go sleep for a couple hours. Okay.

477
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 1: I didn't have a cell phone on purpose because they

478
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: used to used to screw with Chris Chetty all the time,

479
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 1: Nicole his phone harass them throughout. So I was like,

480
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't need a phone. I didn't

481
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 1: get a phone till after Taz and the and the

482
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: Dudley's left. I didn't have self gyaes. I really just

483
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: just to avoid getting pestered. I don't think I had

484
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 1: a cell phone for a long time either. Yeah, I

485
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 1: got it probably like ninety nine or two thousand. I

486
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: had a note the big fat Nokia. Did you have

487
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 1: to plug it into the cigarette lighter in the car?

488
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 1: I plugged mine into the cigarette. Yeah the phone? Is

489
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: that not a thing? Now? I charged mind, Like that's

490
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 1: me too, I guess you remember now. I just remember

491
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: the first cell phone I had a big one, and

492
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: was that yeah big yeah, big, No Ki that the

493
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: only way it would like work is if you had

494
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: it plugged into the damn cigarette lader. I don't know

495
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: cigarette lators and cars anymore. I have a horse and buggy.

496
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: What's car? That's true, that's true. Yeah, I I always

497
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 1: had a lot of respect for you guys, just because

498
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 1: you know, we we worked hard, but you guys had

499
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: double the lude. So that's that's uh. I can't it's all.

500
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: It's all for the pops, that's all. I just try

501
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: and pop you. No, I love that. Listen. This is

502
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: the most non professional show probably in the podcast world.

503
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, I've seen. I've seen some marks out

504
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: there that are bad. I have to come on here

505
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 1: because we're friends. We just pop each other with stories.

506
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: But that's the point. I watched a little bit of

507
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: you and c W. I didn't even know that. Saran

508
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 1: sort of caught you guys checking out of the building.

509
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 1: That's a great story. We were like Ninja's. We were

510
00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: like trying to apparently apparently not good ninjas. You didn't do.

511
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: I look like a good na. I don't even know

512
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. So, so, any h any good stories

513
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: that you remember from E. C. Dub Tons, tons and

514
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: tons or what kind of what kind of story you're

515
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: looking for? I'm looking I'll ask you for two. I

516
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 1: want something that's gonna pop me and something that people

517
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: might not know happened. Wow, Can I talk about the

518
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 1: heat I got on your birthday? Yeah? Okay, it goes.

519
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 1: It goes to the BC. You walked in. Hey, okay,

520
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: it's my birthday. Go can I cop a birthday feel?

521
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: That's right? And you lean over the guard Hong Kong,

522
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: or said Hong Kong. Maybe somebody said Hong Kong. But

523
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: I I copped a good feel. Did I get mad? No?

524
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: You popped? But then uh, but then in the first match,

525
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: I had to work balls and axle and I took

526
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: the chair shot to the head and chair shot to

527
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: the back as a receipt. I guess as I did.

528
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: It was opening match. No, but wasn't. What do you

529
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: think I went to axel on balls and said, hit

530
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: real kill. No, no, I think it's a booker. Oh

531
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: get ay here, that's a sud. That was the case.

532
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: I had no knowledge, Honest to god, I didn't know,

533
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: because I just want to I just want to get it.

534
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: Get in that. I you know, grabbed your cans and

535
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: it's exposed for everyone. Now listen, it's it's Yeah, it

536
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: wasn't like a sexual thing. It was like a funny

537
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: you know, yeah because I b C. Yeah, okay, well

538
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: that's a good one. What's a story? I think? I

539
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: think Sam Booth said to me, can I touch them?

540
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: And I was like no, I'll give you no. Well

541
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,239
Speaker 1: that see I wasn't into that. So maybe maybe if

542
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: I was, I would have let him. But I didn't.

543
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: But I remember him going Hong Kong like air Hong

544
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: Kong and I was like, no, you walked away. Well

545
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: he didn't go for it. Maybe if he went for it,

546
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: it would happen. See, if you try, sometimes you get it.

547
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: You gotta take chances in life. You know, what is

548
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: a story that anywhere doesn't even have to be? Because

549
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: we worked together also in in in the Fake w

550
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: W W e C Yeah the fake. Hey, it was fake,

551
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: but we all got exposure. I got to have a

552
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: Matt with Saboo on Sci Fi, which I thought was

553
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: really good. I got compliments from everybody on the even TAZ,

554
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: which was a surprise. I'm I'm in the Encyclopedia. I

555
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: got a trading card or on the network. So yeah,

556
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: the runs sucked, but we still have exposure now because

557
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: of it. Do you feel like, because you know, there

558
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: was a buzz about you when we were in w

559
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: W A. I heard I heard a buzz, okay, and

560
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: the buzz was that the buzz was look at me.

561
00:30:54,920 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: Vince McMahon loved your character, That's what I heard. And

562
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: I wasn't sure if like they were supposed to push

563
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: you on the E c W brand or if they

564
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: were gonna move you to like a raw or a

565
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: smack yep. But I kept hearing roadkill, roadkill, roadkill. It's

566
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: used to me they didn't know who I was. So bizarre. Yes,

567
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: it's bizarre world because hey, yeah, I have to go

568
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: introduce myself as Mike, and it's it's it's like if

569
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: you weren't made there, if you didn't come up through

570
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: their system or their brand, you didn't exist, or they

571
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: act like you didn't exist. I've said that so many

572
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: and you are and you are. Yeah, you fuck I

573
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: am you signed to you clowns. Well, it's funny you

574
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: said that, because I don't know if you know the

575
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: story when Vince pulled me out of the line to

576
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: get my draw because I was crying, the Johnny A

577
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: said I wanted my release, and Vince came and found me,

578
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: and Vince goes, I know nothing about you. This is

579
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: what he says to me, And I go, didn't you

580
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: buy our tape library? Didn't you buy E C W?

581
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: And He's like, oh, I don't watch it. I don't

582
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: know anything about I felt like this, this guy who

583
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: runs the wrestling Empire doesn't watch his competition, or at

584
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: least is it is told about what's going on in

585
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: the competition as he didn't, I mean, I but he didn't.

586
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: He didn't. But he also weren't they going to hire

587
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: you as like sister love or something? Yeah? So they so,

588
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: so there you go that they knew who you were.

589
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's all it's all giant work. I'm

590
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: sure it's not just me that you said it too,

591
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: because I'm just like, am I crazy? Look? Look look

592
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: what they Look what the w W has done with

593
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: all guys that have come from anywhere else that was successful.

594
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: Few exceptions, there's like one or two like Flair and

595
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: who el well, no, I'm talking about like RV d

596
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, RV very well in that company. Tommy

597
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: had a good run in that company. Tommy, Tommy had

598
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: an okay run. Stevie had a really good run, had

599
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: a good run, but under the radar. They were there

600
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,479
Speaker 1: for a long time though they got their jobs. But

601
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: Stevie was there before the W crumbled, before the merge

602
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, before all. Yeah, Dudley's a jumped ship.

603
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: That's what part of that's what that's what's part of

604
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: the East W crumbling was they took away, like the

605
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: main guys like Taz left and was in charge like

606
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: merging the school, and Perry was already gone. And then

607
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: they pulled like Bubba and Devon. They're both office guys,

608
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: and Bubba would get buildings for us, you know. Yeah,

609
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,239
Speaker 1: so they they kind of like plucked, plucked away at

610
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: the Turkey until there was just bones left, you know.

611
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: But now for you, going back to E c W,

612
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: we have top guys that are leaving, which moves mid

613
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: card guys up. We should have should have well supposedly, Yeah,

614
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: it's all work. Do you feel like Paul didn't see

615
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: you at a certain level. I feel like I feel

616
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: like Paul was disengaged with us at that time because

617
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: he wasn't if you remember, he wasn't coming to the

618
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: shows at the end, Remember he was he was in

619
00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: California getting us that that big TV deal. I do remember,

620
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: but but he wasn't showing up the shows. It was

621
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: just Dreamer and Paul would call in and sometimes show

622
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: looked like TV if you remember, right. Yeah, so I

623
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: don't think Paul was his hands on. Plus he was

624
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: already working for w b E. He was right in

625
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: their show. We caught him at Stanford. I know you did,

626
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: And yeah, we were driving up to we were going

627
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: it was the Boston Loop, so we had left the

628
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: day before and Chris Chetty had to go drop a duce,

629
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: so we stopped a McDonald's. So it's we had two vehicles,

630
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: the ring truck and the r kV. So it's me

631
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 1: and Mikey in the roadkill van and Danny and Chris

632
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: in the in the ring truck. So we're waiting and

633
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 1: then we look up the road and there's Paul pushing

634
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: his car. He ran out of gas, pushing his car

635
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: to the gas station. Hey, what are you guys doing here?

636
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: We're going to the show. So yeah, exactly, we caught

637
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: him early. But like you said, we're ring crews, were

638
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,439
Speaker 1: you know, low level people. We weren't even working said people.

639
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: I said, no, no, No No, I mean us like as

640
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: far as like you know, you look like Dudley Boys,

641
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: Taz Sabu, r V D, Thos Dreamer, Shane Ol. We

642
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: weren't even on that that radar yet because we weren't

643
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 1: even really working. We were just ringcord at the time.

644
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: You know, but when these people are leaving, talent has

645
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: to devolve and move up. Yeah, but you can only

646
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: you can only evolve as far as they will let you.

647
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: Did you feel like at this point, did you feel

648
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: like maybe a single run would have been better for

649
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: your career than I don't know. I don't know. I

650
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: don't know. I got I got over as a tag. Yeah,

651
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: there was actually a rumor did you come to you

652
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: didn't come to E three with us? We did E

653
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: three out in California. We were there for like the

654
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: video game convention when when a video Did I get

655
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 1: to do that? You got to talk to the book? Yes? Yes,

656
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: I wasn't with them. I got a picture with them,

657
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: so I know, I can't. I don't know why I

658
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: didn't get to go on that trip. I don't know

659
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: they would. I don't think there were any any any

660
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: ladies on the other you know what because probably you

661
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: didn't have any to work with. Maybe you didn't have

662
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 1: anybody to work with. It was mostly like the younger guys,

663
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: like you said, the newer guys. Simon Diamond was there, Carrino, Uh,

664
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, but so so we were there two days.

665
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: So Dreamer told me this afterwards. He was going to

666
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: I worked Rhino two days, and Rhino was a TV champion,

667
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: so he was going to have me go over and

668
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: Rhino the first day and then lose it back to

669
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: him the second day. So they would have snuck in

670
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 1: a TV title for road Kill. That would have been

671
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: fun though. It would have been fun with something cool. Yeah,

672
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: but other people politicked and and squashed it, and we

673
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: can't say who. I won't say who because then you're

674
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: putting them over. You'll tell me who. Yes, now I'm

675
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: curious as to who that was, because there's heat, there's

676
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: there's there's always heat. But if you put it over,

677
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: you give them, you get them credit. Yeah, just between

678
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: you and I K he'll see. Oh, I won't know anything.

679
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: I totally won't ask. I loved when people would do

680
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 1: when we would do stuff on house shows that nobody expected,

681
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: So that would have been. I mean, that would have

682
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: been the talk of the town. It would have been

683
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 1: it would have been people were politics the time, so yeah, exactly,

684
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 1: you know who the politikers are. There were a couple

685
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: of them, but whatever. Yeah, and you were starting to

686
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 1: say about I was over in WWE. Yes, I heard again.

687
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: I was signed in two thousand and five. Danny and

688
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: I had a couple of weeks of tryouts. We went

689
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: down to ov W for two weeks and had like

690
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: two weeks of tryouts. They ended up signing me but

691
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: not him, which was strange. So I moved down to

692
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,919
Speaker 1: Kentucky in two thousand and five and I was part

693
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: of OVW. So I was down there for a while

694
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: and then east W came back to the One night Stand.

695
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: I know this was after one I said, this is

696
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: the second one night stand. Okay, yes, So I was

697
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: already under developmental I was down in Kentucky at the time,

698
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: and then they had an idea for me with Casey James.

699
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: They were going to bring us up to TV and

700
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: Michelle McCool was going to be our manager, so basically

701
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: doing the same gimmick I had with Dany, just a

702
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: different guy. So it was it was Dusty Rhodes's idea

703
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: keeping roadkill keeping might have changed your name, you think,

704
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. They were still using roll kill.

705
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: We had one dark match and they had brought Casey

706
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: James and I up to TV once in I think Cincinnati, Ohio.

707
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: We wrestled Stephen Regal and Sylvan Granier, and Sylvan did

708
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: not want to work with us, didn't feed the come back,

709
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 1: and it looked like ship because you're E c W

710
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: or just because he didn't didn't know who you were,

711
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 1: so to speak. Maybe I don't know what it is,

712
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,240
Speaker 1: but that's just the way the business works now. Plus

713
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: a certain politic of gott into his ear too. Same

714
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: guy California, Yeah, same guy. I think I'm starting to

715
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: figure out who it is, to be honest with you,

716
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: I don't know the players time. I think I know

717
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: who it is, but I'll keep it to myself. It's

718
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: all good. I just don't want to give him credit,

719
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: so I read it down. You're gonna test. So we

720
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: had that and then uh, they brought back One's. The

721
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: second one stand was after that. So then all of

722
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: a sudden they plucked me out of that team and

723
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna throw me in just e c W because

724
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna feed all of this to yes texts. Yes.

725
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: So uh so they said, you know Starney again, you're

726
00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: oldest W guy. We're gonna send you to the new

727
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: c W w W E c W. And that was

728
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 1: kind of it. They were feeding us to the new guys.

729
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: But like I said, luckily I snuck under the radar

730
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: and got a match with Saboo and Sabot. Sabu got

731
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: heat for giving me too much of the match, but

732
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,439
Speaker 1: Sabo's cool with me and and he's awesome. He gave

733
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 1: he did give me a lot. But like I said,

734
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: I have that. That's that's on YouTube and the network forever. Right.

735
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: You know, that's a nice piece of That's a nice

736
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: piece of my work I can just leave on a shelf. See,

737
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: your story is a little different than mine because you

738
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 1: were already in developmental and so you knew at one

739
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: point you were hoping they would move you up and

740
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: do something within here's ECW comes back. Perfect fit right,

741
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 1: well kind of it. Kind of it kind of killed

742
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: my my perfect fit because I had a they took

743
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: me out of eas W. I was already on SmackDown

744
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 1: because events like my gimmick, so I was already gonna

745
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: be used probably, and then then later on it changed

746
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: again because the night of Sea and Punk's debut with Hammerstein,

747
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: he still need like a like a live show. I

748
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: think big show and Batista might have made one. Yeah,

749
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: that was huge at the time. So they flew me

750
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: up for that, and I ended up wrestling Steve Richards

751
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: and the first time I wrestled in front of Vince.

752
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,439
Speaker 1: So I'm in the ring selling and that's before the show.

753
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: Paul introduced me. You know, I was a full gimmick,

754
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: the hat, you know, the Undertaker hat and all the gimmick,

755
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: come over the rail and meet Vince and Paul's talking

756
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: me up. So I'm like, okay, that's cool because they

757
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 1: had just flown me up to do a cardio test

758
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: to my knowledge. Now all of a sudden, Here'm more

759
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 1: going to dark magicains Steve right, so I work the match.

760
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: Michael Hayes goes, hey, can you work heel kid? I go,

761
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 1: uh yeah, yeah, it's just maybe a little you see

762
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: my work. They just acted like like blind to the business. Yeah,

763
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: you know, because they didn't I guess they didn't want

764
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: to look like marks. I guess I don't know wish

765
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: they all are anyways, So everybody, everybody's a mark man,

766
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: We're all marks. It's all about the chalk. Uh so.

767
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: Uh so I worked the match. I'm sitting there selling.

768
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: Stevie goes over, I'm selling, and you know, I want

769
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: to still want to get up and get my get

770
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: my get my pop, get my heat back at the Ammerstein. Yeah,

771
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: who knows what I'm gonna be there again? Right so,

772
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: uh Refre gets some moody. He goes, hey, get in

773
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: the back right now. Vince wants to talk to you.

774
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: And I was like, shit, I'm fired. I will dry it.

775
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 1: I'm done. That's it. I had a good run. Let

776
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: me get I had a good run. It's over. So

777
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: I get I get to the back and I go

778
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: to the curtain and Johnny's waiting for me right there.

779
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 1: Hey kid, come here. Vince wants to talk to you

780
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: right now. So he literally walks me over to Vince

781
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: and have a conversation with Vince like, I'm talking to

782
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: you guys. I want to know your backstory, it this

783
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: and the anything, but you know, will your nationality, any hobbies,

784
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: any of this? I was like, Okay, here I am.

785
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: Two seconds ago I thought I was getting fired. Now

786
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: he wants to know my whole backstory. Now you're having

787
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: tea with them, Yeah, talking about life, how's it going,

788
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:11,439
Speaker 1: How's how's the XFL. So, so I'm talking to him talking.

789
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: He goes, I like the way you work, but I

790
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: don't like your gimmick. I'm gonna cut the beard off,

791
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: put you in a pair of trunks. Change. So that

792
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: goes that, that goes against what you said that he

793
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: liked the gimmick, because yeah, that's what I heard. But

794
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: so that's when I became Polish. So I kind of

795
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: like I have now I am Polish. Yeah, change from

796
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: homage to Polish. Right, give me gimmick, change infringement. The

797
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 1: Polish people are gonna be kissed now. No, they were

798
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: gonna that they they hadn't had a Polish guy since Potsky,

799
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 1: and they tried with Scott, with Scott Junior, but it

800
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: never caught on, you know, And they were gonna have

801
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: me come from Wisconsin and all this other crap, and

802
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: they gave me like a so so, like I said,

803
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: Vince said, I'm gonna cut your beard off, put you

804
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: in a pair of trunks and uh, we'll go with that.

805
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: And I was just like, what the hell just happened?

806
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: And I'm talking to the owner of the company that

807
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: you know, I followed Mitafana for years and now he

808
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 1: wants to use me. Yeah, okay, So I cut the

809
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: beard off, which I got heat for duty. Dusty had

810
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: called me and said, hey, kid, we want you to

811
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 1: cut the beard off. You know, the next TV you

812
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: want see what you look like. We get a pair

813
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: of trunks and uh, put you just cut the beard off.

814
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: We'll go right. So I get the TV. Nobody recognized

815
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: me after reintroduce myself again to people I've seen like

816
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: like last week, I just cut the beard off. Yea.

817
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: So Paul goes, what did you do? Who told you

818
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: to cut it off? What do you Apparently he booked

819
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: me and Danny against the bash and so we're gonna

820
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 1: we're gonna put them over on TV before they switched

821
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 1: my camera. There's the conspiracy against all of us, Francine. Yeah, yeah,

822
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: it's instead of making money with us, they just toy

823
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: with all of us. Did what did Paul say when

824
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: you said vince me to do that? Well, Dusty actually

825
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: called me and said the cut, physically cut it off

826
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: before I come back to TV. Yeah. But but meanwhile

827
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: Vince is showing you I don't like your gimmick. Ever

828
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: of the beard. Yes, no one gave Paul the memo.

829
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: No one gave Paul the memo, or he acted like

830
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: no one gave him the memo. And then I could

831
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: care less because at that point he wasn't my boss anymore,

832
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But he wasn't. He wasn't

833
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 1: writing to pay checks. Those No, they weren't made a

834
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: rubber no more dribble dribble. Yeah, bouncing the rubber checks,

835
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: you know, I know I got I got at least

836
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 1: ten of them. And he was bouncing the ring crew

837
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: checks at the time too. Oh yeah, So how how

838
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: are we supposed to have a show and generating new

839
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: money if the ring crew checks are bouncing. That's to

840
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 1: get the ring truck there, to get the rings set

841
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,240
Speaker 1: up the ring? Yeah, exactly what are we going to do? Exactly?

842
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: Were the ships man? Yeah? No, but we but we

843
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: made the best of it. Though. We still have great

844
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: memories from from those days, and we we can still talk

845
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: about just a little bit. He said, they hired you,

846
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,919
Speaker 1: and they didn't they didn't want Danny. Yeah, did that

847
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: cause heat between the two of you? Not from my end,

848
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: and I don't. I don't think from his end, because

849
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: it's out of our control. What am I gonna say?

850
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: What am I gonna say? No? I can't take the

851
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: job unless you take Danny's too. No, And you can't

852
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: do that unless it's your wife or something like that.

853
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: And even still I don't get it, and vice versa.

854
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: If you would have been hired and they didn't hire me,

855
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: what can I say? Good for you? Understand it? Yeah,

856
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: because it's out of our control. It sucked and we

857
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: ended up back together later on, and then they swashed

858
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: it again because we were getting over the house shows.

859
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: We did those that over and then they just put

860
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: the cash on everything. That's it. We don't. I will

861
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: never understand that about that company. You know why? Because

862
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: they have money. They don't care. It's their show. But

863
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: we can make them more money. Don't you want to

864
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: get more money? Yes, but they don't care. It's your idea,

865
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: it's not their idea. But it just does this leave

866
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: you disenchant it after this whole experience. No, like I said,

867
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: I enjoyed the time. I had. I had a lot

868
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: of great experiences and a lot of great memories, but

869
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: I guess disenchanted that is that I don't want to

870
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,439
Speaker 1: tune anymore. Yes, okay, like I've I've seen, I've seen

871
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: behind the curtain, I've seen the magic of it. I've

872
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: seen how you know, I've seen David Copperfield does the magic.

873
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't relate anymore, you know, I

874
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: just there's no there's no three hundred pound guys that

875
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: I want to watch on TV. The guys fit in

876
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 1: my pocket now. These guys all like they look no offense.

877
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: That there's a lot of talent out there, but a

878
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: lot of them were like backyard guys, especially in the

879
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: newer company, that my dog could beat up. Yeah, I

880
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: know I reached out to you when I had my show,

881
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: and you were just flat out just now yeah after

882
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: after Okay, I think he's bitter at something because I

883
00:47:55,800 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: couldn't even at that point, I couldn't even talk to you. Yeah,

884
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: but it was it had nothing to do with you.

885
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: It was it was it was all when towards the end,

886
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: I broke my neck. I net even see that. See

887
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: the lion right there, Ye, let me see. So that

888
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: was fusion surgery. So one of my last matches with

889
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: w W when I was the developmental I uh. I

890
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 1: was wrestling Matt Sidel Evan Bourne and we called a

891
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: dive and I rolled out to the floor and he

892
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: said he was gonna jump over the top rope alan

893
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: chest to chest right. So spot comes. I roll out

894
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: to the floor, I take the tilt the world, roll

895
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: out to the floor, and I'm this crash pad. If

896
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: he wipes out, you know he's he's done. He can't

897
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,240
Speaker 1: work again. So it's my job to catch a guy running.

898
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: He has the ropes, runs, jumps, and he starts sinking. Now,

899
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 1: in my head, you gotta think quick because now it's

900
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: his human body coming at you. In my head, I

901
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: thought he caught his knee pad. So I took a

902
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: step forward to catch him, and he caught wheeled on

903
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: me and crushed the disk. That's not that's not what

904
00:48:56,200 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: we discussed. M hmm. That's not what we discuss at all.

905
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 1: So I got knocked out. Knocked out. I finished the match,

906
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: and I wasn't able to squeeze my hands like I

907
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 1: wasn't able to do. I couldn't feel this so finished

908
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: the match another like five or ten minutes and drove

909
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: home still knocked out from it was like a two

910
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 1: hour drive. We were I think we were like in London.

911
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: There were some it's in front of two hundred people

912
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: in an armory for OVW, which wasn't even tellvied it

913
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,240
Speaker 1: was a house show. I lost my neck and essentially

914
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: my career. So that left a bitter taste in my

915
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: mouth because they ended up releasing me while I was

916
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: still injured. But they but they didn't know. They didn't know,

917
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: so I gave them benefit of the doubt and they said,

918
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: what do you want. I go, well, I want to

919
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: extend my contract get the surgery done. So they did

920
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: right by me. They took care of surgery and all

921
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: the expenses and everything and paid me for the recovery time. Okay, Now,

922
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: in the meantime I was doing I stayed in OVW.

923
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: Danny Davis let me stay and I learn how to

924
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: like book and do promos and stuff like that and

925
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: write TV. So I was doing all that stuff and

926
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: then one day I woke up and said I just

927
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: don't want this anymore. And it was like I explained it,

928
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 1: like this is like a relationship. It's like a fourteen

929
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: year relationship. I woke up and said, I love you,

930
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: but I'm not in low it anymore. I'm done. And

931
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: that was it. And that's the time where you started

932
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: reaching out. I'm sorry said that. No, no, no, I

933
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: get it. But but like I said, it had nothing

934
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: to do with you. It was just that's where I

935
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: wanted nothing to do with the business at the time.

936
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: I wanted you there because I love you and you

937
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 1: were part of my family, and even if you put

938
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 1: in work, I just wanted you there. I appreciate it,

939
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: and we've talked about this and we you know, it's

940
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 1: water under the bridge and stuff. But I just felt

941
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: like you were just like no, yeah, But but it

942
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,720
Speaker 1: wasn't towards you, I know, but I didn't at the time.

943
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't know all this was going on,

944
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: you know, because we live because we lived different lives.

945
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: You know, you got you got married, kids and you

946
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: and I wasn't. I wasn't really in the business anymore,

947
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: per se. I didn't. You know, it wasn't in the sheets.

948
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: I didn't have Twitter, so I didn't know what was

949
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: if you want in the sheets, I did to get

950
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: the kids in the bathroom. Sweet whatever, But I just like,

951
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 1: I'm just so glad that everything is fixed and we've

952
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 1: kept in touch and everything's good. Where are you at now?

953
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: I know where you're at, But tell them I'm in

954
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: Long Island right, No, no no, no, no, we're not going

955
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 1: to Yeah. The marks already exposed it. It's exposed. I

956
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: got I got fan mail to my house. I was like,

957
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,720
Speaker 1: welcome to my world. Yeah. It was just it's just weird.

958
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: Like I got two pieces like in two days. I

959
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 1: was like, oh, it's a community, roadkill, it's a community.

960
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 1: It's a big, big thing. But you don't even need

961
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: to tell them. No, there there's Facebook groups. It's called

962
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: through the mail autograph collecting. But why you get for

963
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: free to I don't know. No, there's no freebies. I'm listening.

964
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: If either one of those wolfs had money in them,

965
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 1: they would have got their stuff. But hey, I'm a

966
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: big fan and here's a here's eight by ten. Yeah right,

967
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: and guess what. And of course it's like anything. They

968
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: get pissed when people want money, so you get nothing

969
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 1: for nothing. Man, that's right. What do you do now

970
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: for a living? Tell? Tell everybody we're because you're not

971
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: social media. You're not really. I kind of kind of

972
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: like lived the Amish lifestyle on a shoot. I don't

973
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 1: even have a TV. I got rid of it. No TV.

974
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: I borrow. I borrow the Internet from my neighbors. They

975
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,240
Speaker 1: give me the wireless code and that's it. That's awesome.

976
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: It's doing very good. I can tell you you have

977
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: no bad connection. You've had a better one than for it.

978
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: You were gonna kick. I was gonna be a roadkill

979
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: for the rest of high text iPhone and steal the

980
00:52:52,520 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: Wi Fi. Maybe just always working man, always working again.

981
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 1: I'm wearing boxer shorts right now to fantastic. I'm always

982
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: comfortable down here. No one can ever see it. Yeah,

983
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 1: what are you? What are you doing with your life

984
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: right now? I'm surviving. I'm surviving outside of the w bubble.

985
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 1: I do a lot of eBay sales, and I was

986
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 1: actually able to during this pandemic quit quit my real

987
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 1: job in retail and just work from my house, hang

988
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: out with my dogs all day, just take pictures of

989
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 1: stuff I have around the house, because I've been collecting

990
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: stuff for years. I have in ECW. I would travel

991
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: to I was collecting figures. When East wus up and running,

992
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 1: I'd be home most of the week, so I wake

993
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 1: up around noon and snipe stuff off eBay and get

994
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: stuff really cheap, and I would just I've hoarded it

995
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: for twenty years, so it's like LJN Figures, WWFLJ and

996
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: Figures Loose and card and Hasbro figures and stuff like that.

997
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: And when we were on the road, also other states

998
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: didn't have other states had stores that New York didn't have.

999
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: Walmartin Target were not on Long Island yet, So when

1000
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: we go to Florida, I knew who the target was

1001
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: on the way down. So I'd stop a Target by

1002
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: Target with solicism and bring it back up here and

1003
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: do bulls with a comic book shop here and some

1004
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 1: you know, and I put stuff away brother from another

1005
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: mother here. I say the exact thing. But it's so

1006
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: but it's so easy. I'd rather sell toys and be

1007
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: digging a dick somewhere or setting up a scaffold or

1008
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 1: working with people you know. But you know what I

1009
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: didn't understand about you. One of the first times I

1010
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: saw you after me being out of the business, like

1011
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 1: I came back obviously everybody comes back once or twice

1012
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 1: in their life, and ye come, we never retire. But

1013
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 1: you were you were at a table, but not as

1014
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: road kill. Yeah, I h you're just selling stuff? And

1015
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: I right, and what are you doing? Like why are

1016
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: you not roadkill right now? Because we're all in like Gemrick,

1017
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: so to speak, and and you're just hanging out selling

1018
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: because most people don't recognize me. Number one, if I

1019
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: just did it as roadkill, I'd probably make little to

1020
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: no money. If you're in your gear, I'm not gonna

1021
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: wear that gear I sold too. No, I don't. I

1022
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: don't have to do anything. I'll sell merchandise. I'll sell merchandise.

1023
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 1: So I've gotten my own booth. At most shows like

1024
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: Legends of the Ring and Big Event, I would buy

1025
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: my own booth and set up wrestling figures, and I

1026
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 1: would look through the collection I have and find guys

1027
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 1: that we're going to be there, say like Bibbili Jim's

1028
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:36,479
Speaker 1: gonna be there. I'd dig up his figures, or Tito

1029
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: Sihan is going to be there, of Bruce Beefcake. I

1030
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 1: find the figures that I have and bring it to

1031
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 1: the show and sell it. Because people sometimes can't get

1032
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: it in time to get it signed to the show.

1033
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 1: Here I have it, and then they run over and

1034
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: get the signature from so that they buy it for me.

1035
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 1: And Dreamer actually told me he popped because I did

1036
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: a show with the Erena the Icons. I sold the

1037
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: Tommy Dreamer figure to somebody and the fans that bought

1038
00:55:58,320 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: it from me was like, hey, I just brought to

1039
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 1: some roll. He was recited that he bought it from me.

1040
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: They kill and then he got signed by tom Wow.

1041
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: So so so I'm making money regardless. So you're you're

1042
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 1: against You're against dressing like roadkilling and coming back for

1043
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: maybe an c W reunion or something. You know you

1044
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 1: did it for. Yeah, but I didn't get dressed up,

1045
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,720
Speaker 1: but you came back as roadkill and he signed his Roadkill.

1046
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 1: I did come back and sign and people because if

1047
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 1: I if I'm helping somebody work on something for next year,

1048
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 1: can I call you and say you'll you'll do it.

1049
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: It's not what the hat to wear, the suspenders, just

1050
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 1: the hat, well the original hat is gone, but just replica.

1051
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: Well maybe maybe it depends. Maybe hang out just to

1052
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: come and hang out. Well, I can't hang out like

1053
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: this man, why why we got to be like that?

1054
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: Because gimmick, because you don't have to be in gimicked.

1055
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: Well that's to me, that's in gimmick. I remember, I

1056
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: remember we did Danny United one signing when I first

1057
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 1: came back, and the guys that we want you in gimmick.

1058
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 1: So like I wore like a white shirt, no suspenders,

1059
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: no hat. Here you go. What's you gonna say? You

1060
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: know what I mean? I had no beard and I

1061
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: don't care. I just if if my thing happens. Okay,

1062
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: technically me, I'm helping Ka the Marks. Let me know

1063
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: if what happens, we'll just talk off camera, all right,

1064
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, can I try and include you? Yes?

1065
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: What do you want to do it? Okay, that's good.

1066
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: Where where can they find you on eBay? Nowhere? Come on?

1067
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: I'm actually uh. I used the name Darth Giants one

1068
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: word d A R T H G I A N

1069
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: T Star Wars. It's you're not a Star Wars Mark.

1070
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: You got to Disney all the time. How can you

1071
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:44,959
Speaker 1: not be a Star Wars Mark? Listen? I walked through

1072
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: the Galaxy's Edge and I was like, Oh, that's cure,

1073
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: that's cure. That's care. I'm already on. I'm already on

1074
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: road kill. I can't I don't know the line. I

1075
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: couldn't even get on the freaking ride. My kids were like,

1076
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: why can't we get on these Riyes, I was like,

1077
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: because I didn't wake up four o'clock. Because because they're over.

1078
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 1: That's why I'm not anymore. Yeah, no, I'm not a

1079
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: big mark for the new Disney Star Wars. I've got

1080
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: what we were talking about before starting. Yeah, it's so

1081
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: the Dark Giant thing. So basically, if you if you

1082
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: hunt me down on eBay, like I said, one more

1083
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: dark Giant, all the same, same, There's no capital letters

1084
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: or anything, but it's the picture of Andre the Giant

1085
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: from Princess Bride when he was the dread Pirates or

1086
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: dread Pirate Roberts. He found me already what that was

1087
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: finding the hardy Boys figures that popped up, some foam fingers,

1088
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: some phone the original thing. But I've got everything, but

1089
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: I've saved it. I just said that most of the

1090
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:50,919
Speaker 1: guys sold it all for for pennies on the dollar

1091
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: because they needed the money for whatever. I just saved

1092
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 1: it because I was He's their own he's their own man. Hey,

1093
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 1: whatever whatever your dale is man, whatever right I got,

1094
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 1: but I saved it. Like when he's W shut down,

1095
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 1: I was. Tommy had worked it out where because I

1096
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: had the big van. So I was bringing shirts to

1097
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: the show and he was. He was covering my my travel,

1098
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: so he paid for a second room for us for

1099
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 1: the ring crew. They paid for gas, tolls and expenses

1100
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: pretty much just by bringing merchandise for the show. So

1101
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: I became friends with the guy that made the shirts.

1102
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: So when he CW folded, I took all his old

1103
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: dead stock I just got. I just sold a whole

1104
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: bunch of FTW tank tops when Taz left. Taz had

1105
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 1: an FTW line that never took off because he went

1106
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: a WWE. Yeah, but but I had to I had

1107
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 1: to pay my dues to get that connection. So so

1108
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: there was there was I remember there was one loop.

1109
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 1: We were in Connecticut and then Philly the next night.

1110
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 1: So we ended the show in Connecticut, like you said,

1111
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: set up the ring break down the ring. I drove

1112
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 1: home that night, woke up the next morning, picked up

1113
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 1: a ton of shirts, filled my van, and then drove

1114
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 1: down a Philly by myself. Wow, because because that's how

1115
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: much merchandise you were selling. But but now look get

1116
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 1: paid off because look at everything, but everything pays off,

1117
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean everything. There's a reason. There's

1118
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: a reason for everything. You don't know what it is

1119
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 1: at the time, but everything pays off of Actually, I

1120
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 1: love this, this positive rogue kill because like back in

1121
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 1: the day, like not the ships. But I would be

1122
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: like because I tried to be positive, and he'd be like, like,

1123
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 1: you know, it's just you have to sometimes you have

1124
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 1: to because there's so much negative craft people motivate him

1125
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 1: and make them happy. And his face would be like,

1126
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: and now you're just you're just this happy. You seem

1127
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 1: like more happy, happy, jolly. Yeah. I know, no wife,

1128
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: no kids, two dogs, no job, no job, no job,

1129
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 1: no uh no, no paying for internet free uh no,

1130
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 1: TV always work and that always worked. I met uh,

1131
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 1: I just posted a picture. I met the girl from

1132
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 1: Stranger Things. I don't know what her name is. The

1133
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 1: main star she played eleven. Did you watch Netflix? You

1134
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 1: watch Netflix? No, okay, so you don't who she is either.

1135
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about, but I know what

1136
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 1: you're talking about. So I did vending. I did round

1137
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 1: a Comic Con for the last six years, which is awesome.

1138
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 1: I set up a booth and everything, and so all

1139
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: kinds of fit, not just wrestling. There's all kinds of stuff.

1140
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 1: So I get like celebrities and stuff like that. So

1141
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: I was I was using this restroom that I'd normally

1142
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: use all time because I would get there like two

1143
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 1: days before and set up, and people in the building

1144
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 1: knew me, so I could just walk around wherever, like

1145
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 1: I own the place, right. So shows going on, I

1146
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 1: go take a break, I go to the restroom, come out,

1147
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 1: and I hear the English voice. I'm like, wait a minute,

1148
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 1: I know this girl's here doing like, you know, autographs

1149
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 1: and stuff. I go, excuse me, you might have been

1150
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 1: taking a picture with you goes yeah, sure, cheers, you know,

1151
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 1: quick picture, blooming them out. Meanwhile, people playing like sixty

1152
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 1: to one hundred dollars to get a picture with her.

1153
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 1: I just got one a in her locker room. Basically

1154
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 1: he can get the free stuff. How to just work,

1155
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 1: Just working man, just working man. That's right. Well, I

1156
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 1: am so pleased that you came on. Thank you for

1157
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 1: having a lot. Of course, I know a lot of

1158
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 1: people have wondered where you've been rock. That's it. I'd

1159
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 1: rather be off the map than under the radar, you

1160
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I don't. I just don't. Just

1161
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 1: nobody's business. Listen. If you're happy that it's life, that's

1162
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 1: all that matters. So you're you're doing something right. I'm

1163
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 1: very very happy for you. I'm so happy that you

1164
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 1: and I are still friends, and I I want to

1165
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 1: see you somewhere next year. So if it happens, okay,

1166
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 1: let me know, keep me a form. But I don't know.

1167
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 1: But the gimmick appearance gimmick? Am I not? Well, maybe

1168
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 1: not in gimmick. Maybe just like a white shirt. Okay,

1169
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 1: maybe maybe we'll see I have I might have roll

1170
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 1: Killed shirts by then. Oh then that's perfect. Yeah, so

1171
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:55,919
Speaker 1: you are to wear an East W shirt. I still

1172
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 1: have them. Listen, I don't care if you come in

1173
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 1: in your underwear and you got it, you got sold.

1174
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 1: White people looks weird because I got big cans to

1175
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 1: around and they hang out the size like mudflaps. Everybody

1176
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 1: go to road Kills eBay store, Darth. There will be

1177
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 1: noose there. You go. Thank you, I love you, Thanks me,

1178
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 1: and I'll talk to you. Chad. Good to meet you.

1179
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 1: I think I think passing at the at the shows.

1180
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 1: Did you bring him? Having puts you at one time

1181
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 1: at the arena? No, I had Bundy at the last

1182
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 1: Icons December two years ago, and that was the last

1183
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 1: time I was at ICONS. But I told Francine before,

1184
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 1: I said, the first time I saw you at Icons,

1185
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:44,919
Speaker 1: I was like, I feel like I know this guy.

1186
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 1: And then I walked around and that's why I know him.

1187
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 1: Ro Kill text me that the heat person. You know

1188
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 1: who he is. We worked them a long time. Yeah,

1189
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 1: but here I'll give you another used to used to

1190
01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 1: travel with the sound guy. All right, I'll text you. No,

1191
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 1: I think I know. I'll text you now and you

1192
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 1: tell me, well, I can't text him on the phone. Man,

1193
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 1: get off, take it, take it home, get the hook,

1194
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 1: Get this guy out of here holding the pencil off.

1195
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 1: You gotta go. Sorry, it's all good. Take care of

1196
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 1: ro Kill. Ill Bye. He's hilarious. Okay, I hope I'm right.

1197
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 1: I haven't I hope I'm right. All right, Well, I'm

1198
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 1: just gonna start reading Manscape because we were right out

1199
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 1: of time for our whole entire day. I'm sorry, No, no, no,

1200
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 1: you're great. No, I love it. I can listen to

1201
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:45,920
Speaker 1: you talk to your buddies. You're right, thank you. That

1202
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 1: is what it's like to know the players involved. So

1203
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:49,919
Speaker 1: let me let me tell you a little bit about

1204
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 1: manscaped Here. Now, Manscape this fall season is doing amazing thing. Okay,

1205
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 1: We've talked about pumpkin spike ball, We've talked about ball cream,

1206
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 1: We're talking about ball lotion. We talked about shaving a

1207
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 1: lot of different stuff. But with Manscape, they're here to

1208
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 1: ensure that you don't carve your pumpkins when you're grooming

1209
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 1: and my pumpkins naming the boys downstairs. The Manscape mission

1210
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 1: is to change the way your approach is caring for

1211
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 1: your balls. So the whole mission is simple. Their lawnmower

1212
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 1: three point oh trimmer offers a replaceable ceramic blade with

1213
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 1: advanced skin safe technology, which helps reduce groom accidents. They're

1214
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 1: a new weed whacker. Ear and nose hair trimmer uses

1215
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 1: the same skin safe technology when you're trimming those delicate

1216
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 1: nose hairs of yours, which if you pinch them, you

1217
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 1: might fall over crying worse than when Francine took her

1218
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 1: bump on the hardwood. The crop Care Kit includes the

1219
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 1: crop Preserver, which is the ball deodorant which keeps those

1220
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 1: pumpkins spiced and those lattes nice and perky during this

1221
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 1: fall season. The crop mop ball wipes. You never know

1222
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 1: when you're gonna have an opportunity striking to use them,

1223
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 1: so make sure you don't stink down there, especially when

1224
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 1: you sit down at that Thanksgiving dinner. And if you

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01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 1: need the instructions I had to do with you, go

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Speaker 1: get twenty percent off and free shipping on your first order.

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Speaker 1: So you don't put your mand hood in any jeopardy.

1232
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 1: It's in good hands with manscaped and also and tip

1233
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 1: jar Mass. I was gonna mention them before when you

1234
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 1: went on your hike. Now Francine wore her tip jar

1235
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 1: mass as she blaze the trails. Yes, I had it

1236
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 1: with me. I didn't need to put it on, but

1237
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 1: I had it just in case. You know, the people

1238
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 1: as my son said, people people, But yes, Tip jar

1239
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 1: mask they are the most comfortable masks on the market,

1240
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 1: in a lot of different styles and colors. They come

1241
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 1: in a sealed envelope, so they are you know, you're

1242
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 1: guaranteed to get a fresh one, sanitary one. We love

1243
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 1: tip jar mask. Yeah. I guess what I got news

1244
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 1: for you. It's it's looking like they're going to be

1245
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 1: putting those workers back out on the streets again. Yeah,

1246
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 1: a lot of places they're closing. Chicago's closing, New York

1247
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 1: is putting restrictions on. New Jersey's putting restrictions on so backwards, guys,

1248
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 1: going backwards. So these these displaced service workers. Any kind

1249
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 1: of time you buy a tip jar mask, they're getting

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Speaker 1: a portion put aside for them. And if you know

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Speaker 1: somebody that works in a bar restaurant, you know exactly

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Speaker 1: what we're talking about. Man, So tip jarmask dot com. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know you think Corona's getting better and it's starting

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Speaker 1: to get worse apparently boo. Yeah, and I meant to

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Speaker 1: tell you. So we had a scare, not in the

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Speaker 1: house scare, but at my little one's daycare. A parent

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Speaker 1: oh no, so we pulled her out as we pulled

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Speaker 1: her out as precaution for two weeks. Are they saying

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Speaker 1: that the kids gotta have to get tested or I'm

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Speaker 1: assuming that the kid, like of the parent, got tested,

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Speaker 1: but we're just being safe and we took her out

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Speaker 1: for two weeks just we don't want we don't want

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Speaker 1: to commingle anything. So yeah, Gary, Yeah, Gary, scary. Well

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Speaker 1: I had to wrap up. Yeah, let's do it. What

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Speaker 1: are we doing on Patreon this week? Oh? Good call?

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Speaker 1: So I don't know, we've got more. We got more

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Speaker 1: Fan Appreciation Month? Had your way? Uh, that's for damn sure.

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Speaker 1: And because of Fan Appreciation Month, maybe maybe I think

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Speaker 1: we might do one of our two things that we planned.

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Speaker 1: But I know we are definitely doing. We're gonna do

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Speaker 1: some asm mar this week. I already watched it. I

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Speaker 1: watched it already. I've been told I have to keep

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Speaker 1: it down very very faintly. Okay, yeah, so a watch along.

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Speaker 1: I think we might have to forego the watch along

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Speaker 1: only because we have two of our friends joining us

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Speaker 1: this week. If that changes, I do have one, but

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to say what it is, just in case,

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Speaker 1: just in case, just in case, because we have some

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Speaker 1: also extra recording we're doing, which is good. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: you'll forego just possibly possibly Okay, sounds good if you

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Speaker 1: want to follow me at Chad E and B on Twitter, Exclusives,

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Speaker 1: dot com, uh autographs, autograph signings, a couple of new

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Speaker 1: ones coming. We're already planning January when you think about that,

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Speaker 1: already thinking that far ahead. Yeah, anything else, Diamond Conversations.

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Speaker 1: Diamond Conversations going to be coming back in a few weeks.

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Speaker 1: I might be moving it, so okay, kind of put

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Speaker 1: it on baus for about three weeks and wait till

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Speaker 1: January first to restart season two. Okay, I am across

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Speaker 1: the board on social media at ECW Diva Francine. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to announce it now. I'm going to start doing

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Speaker 1: holiday cameos everyone. I have some outfits that I bought

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Speaker 1: specifically for the holiday season. Okay, So I'm also going

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Speaker 1: to be singing some Christmas carols if anyone's interested in

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Speaker 1: my singing, which people that have got Happy Birthday messages

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Speaker 1: know that my voice sucks, but I still give it

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Speaker 1: a hundred percent. So yeah, Christmas cameos. It's actually go

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Speaker 1: to my Twitter to book. I'll put the link up

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Speaker 1: on Twitter, but easy to at ecw DVA Francine and

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Speaker 1: I also have an only fans at EASYWDVA Franccene. And

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Speaker 1: that's a wrap