1 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to SABOR production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: I'm Annie Reese and I'm Lauren Vogelbaum. And today we're 3 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: talking about salt and pepper shakers. Yes, which this was 4 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: a Laurence suggestion and was there any particular reason? Okay, 5 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: So so I think I think at some point in 6 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: the recent past you or a listener had suggested some 7 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: kind of cooking implement um. And so I sort of 8 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: went down this Google search rabbit hole of trying to 9 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: find something that would that would make for a full episode, 10 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: uh unto itself, so that we didn't have to do 11 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: like a compilation of cooking implements. And I landed upon 12 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 1: the surprisingly twisty in turn world of salt and pepper shakers. Yeah. Yes, 13 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: I would agree with that assessment. Was not expecting most 14 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: of what is what is to come, um, but it's yeah, 15 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 1: very exciting, very exciting. I have to say, I I 16 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: can't stop thinking of John mulaney when he does his 17 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: impression of Sir Patrick Stewart on s n L, where 18 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: he John Laney says one of his favorite moments on 19 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: SNL is when Sir Patrick Stewart introduced salt and pepper 20 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: and he said it like salt and Peppa, like it 21 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: was a surprise that pepper showed up, which I love. Yeah, 22 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: that's beautiful goodness. Highly recommend, highly recommend. And my mom 23 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: does have She is a person who has um different 24 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: decorative salt and pepper shakers for holidays and seasons. Oh 25 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 1: my gosh, that's beautiful. Oh that is that is a 26 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: thing of wonder. We do have in this household, precisely 27 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 1: three uh, decorative salt and pepper shakers, none of which 28 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: we ever use. Um. Two are matched set, which our 29 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: elephants because my roommate UM has an elephant thing. Um 30 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: that sounded weird. She just likes elephants. Um, alright, they're 31 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: her favorite animal, I do believe. UM. And I've got 32 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: just one that's t Rex and it's a little white 33 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: t Rex wearing a little gold bow tie. And I 34 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: didn't really feel a need to have two of them 35 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: because I knew that I wouldn't like use them. I 36 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: just sort of wanted. I think I was like having 37 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: a bad day at Target, and so I was like, 38 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: this little dude is coming home with me. It's just 39 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: me and him. We're just we're out there just gonna 40 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: make it work, you know, you and the single. I guess, 41 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: salt Shaker, I don't know, you can put whatever you 42 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: want in there is against the world. Yeah, all right, 43 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: this kind of reminds me of I remember one time 44 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:25,119 Speaker 1: in D and D. Your character, I assume was having 45 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 1: a bad day and asked for like a decorative figurine, 46 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: and I was like, uh, stop keepers and skin says no. 47 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: But now I know, okay, tr x Shaker, maybe there 48 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: you go. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. You know, I'm 49 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: not sure what kind of dinosaurs existed in whichever realm 50 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: we're in. Um, that's right, I'm going to have to 51 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to sort that out. I I'm ashamed. 52 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: I haven't thought about that earlier. What kind of dinosaur? 53 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: I'm ashamed of you and for you? Yes, as you 54 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: should be, as you should be. All right, Well, I 55 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: will think on this. I unfortunately don't have any decorative 56 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: unfortunately that would use them either. But maybe i'd use 57 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: him as decoration. Um, I'm just I just use it 58 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: straight from the canister type of gow. Yeah. Yeah, I've 59 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 1: I've come back over into salt seller kind of territory lately. 60 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: I don't even I don't even shake. Oh wow, you 61 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: don't even shake. You don't shake, bro wow. Well, okay, 62 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: you've given me some stuff to consider about what's going 63 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: on with your dinosaur figurine and your salt seller. All right, um, 64 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,679 Speaker 1: but in the meantime, we have done episodes on salt 65 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: and pepper. Yep, um, that's a salt what's shaking from 66 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: April and a prepper on black pepper from March of 67 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: Oh nice? Yeah. Um, but all right, let's get to 68 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: our question. Salt and pepper shakers. What are they? Well, uh, 69 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: they're small receptacles with holes in the top, usually in 70 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: the top for for individual diners at the table to 71 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: uh to use to sprinkle out individual servings or or 72 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: units I guess of salt or of pepper. Um. I 73 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: mean honestly, again, you can put pretty much whatever you 74 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: want in there. Um. But uh, but yeah, because sometimes 75 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: you have dry, powdered or crystallized condiments or seasonings that 76 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: it would be nice to sprinkle over your food, and 77 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: you also don't want to get that condiment all over 78 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: your fingers, or maybe it would be rude for you 79 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 1: to like put your grubby little hands into a shared 80 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: dish at that current moment. So yeah, these receptacles let 81 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: you season your food all dainty, like I suppose it 82 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: is kind of dainty that you mentioned it. And salt 83 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: and pepper are the two most common seasonings used with shakers, um, 84 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: but any number of other things can can go in 85 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: similar receptacles of sugar, hot, red pepper flakes, ground parmesan 86 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: in kind of scare quotes because there's usually not a 87 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: whole lot of parmesan actually involved in those. Um, cinnamon, 88 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: mustard powder, yeah, whatever you want. Um. They are also 89 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: called castors um or pots based on older sellers or 90 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: or or pots, but the shakers are sometimes called pots too, 91 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: sometimes dredgers or muffineers. This is a This is a 92 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: historical term, and as far as I can tell, no 93 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: one knows why it exists. Um. People have all kinds 94 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: of theories about, like the British seasoning their muffins at 95 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: the table. I'm not sure. But then I think about 96 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: our muffin episode and how confusing that terminology was, and 97 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: I don't even want to I didn't have time. I 98 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: did not have time today, that's fair. The ones for 99 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: the muffineer rabbit hole was not one for another day, 100 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: or maybe it conquered. Does you know, maybe that's the 101 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: one we'll never know. I I like to think. I 102 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: really hope that this isn't like my Moby Dick, like 103 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: I don't know muffineer. Now, I can't hope it is. 104 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: See Muffinier in our food comic series. The muffineer does 105 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: sound like uh, it sounds like a villain, but I 106 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: guess it could be either. Yeah, but like like a musketeer. 107 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: You know that's true, the three Muffineers. Yeah, all right, 108 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: there it is. There's the idea they're the rival band. Though, 109 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: of the Muffineers is clearly the Pepperettes, which is another 110 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: word for a pepper shaker. Uh so yeah, I like that, Yeah, 111 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: in the offshoot where they're both girl bands with like 112 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: key tars um. Yes, yeah, it's the Muffineers and the 113 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: Pepperettes or sometimes these objects are's just simply called salts 114 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: and peppers. M all right, all right, And I need 115 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: to go ahead and draw distinction here between shakers and grinders. 116 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: I think we need to talk separately about grinders at 117 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: another time and date. It's too much, too much, too much, 118 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: grinders its own and as we have been discussing UM, 119 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: in addition to being practical, shakers can be also varyingly 120 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: decorative UM, you know, being constructed of materials ranging from 121 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: just like paperboard and plastic to ceramics to wood to 122 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: steel too, precious metals, all kinds of shapes and decors 123 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: from plane to kitchy too elegant um. I I found 124 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: out today that some salt and pepper shakers are also 125 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: snow globes UM, and I've seen those that just blew 126 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 1: my little mind. I was like, well, there you go, 127 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: there you go. Human ingenuity. I love it, I know, 128 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: I know, especially in salt and pepper rows. Other realms 129 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: perhaps slacker, but salt and pepper shakers you're right, yeah, 130 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: very important. Yeah. UM. They are often sold in matching sets. Yes, 131 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: I feel like that would be in a horror movie. 132 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 1: No offense to you, la, but if someone was like 133 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: they came up and they were like, I only want 134 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: the left like salt, one of this pair, I feel 135 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: like the person trying to sell it would be like, 136 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: what you can't break we can't break up the set. 137 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: We never sell them separately. Do you know what kind 138 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: of damage that does to the psyche of a salt 139 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: pepper shaker. You monster. Yeah, I don't know. What have 140 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: I done? What have you done? Somewhere there's some poor 141 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: innocent t Rex with a you know, maybe a silver boat. 142 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: I just lost in this world wondering what's happened. I'm sorry, 143 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: I did not know. If only you had done this 144 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:32,599 Speaker 1: episode before, then, I think we both have things to 145 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: be ashamed Evan to make up for. You know, it's true, 146 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: It's true. We will get started on that post taste. Um. 147 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: I guess speaking of there are a lot of salt superstitions, 148 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: and we talked about that a little bit in our 149 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: salt episode. Um, but one of the ones related to 150 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: this is after knocking over a salt shaker, throwing salt 151 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 1: over your left shoulder at a friend that was very 152 00:10:54,760 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: adamant about that, you had to otherwise who knows. Uh, Yeah, 153 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: that's the thing that I do. But I always forget 154 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: which shoulder it is, and I don't have any really 155 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: strong feeling about it, so I'm probably again, I'm just 156 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: living on the edge with a lot of salt related issues. 157 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: You are wild child when it comes to the salt. Well, okay, 158 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: what about the nutrition, salted appreciation. Don't eat them, don't 159 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: eat those, consume their contents. Yeah, good to know, Good 160 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: to know. I could have I could have made such 161 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: huge mistakes. A lot of them are decoratively shaped like food. 162 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: They are. Yeah, don't don't eat them, don't about it. 163 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: Don't be true. We do have a few numbers for you. Um, 164 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: these fine antique shakers, um can go for thousands of dollars. Uh. 165 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: This is another google a hole that I fell right into. 166 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: And I was just like, whoa really and it's true? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 167 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: and we're gonna be talking about that a bit more. 168 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: It reminded me of the kool aid. Yeah, it's just 169 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: the whole world I didn't know existed, and people are 170 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: serious about it. The some of the collectors who get 171 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: really serious about um, not even like the fine like 172 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 1: silver ones, but the kitchen ones have collections that range 173 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: in the thousands, like like ten thousand, like fifty thousand, 174 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: like people have a lot of these things. Yeah. And 175 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: speaking of there is a salt and Pepper Shaker Museum 176 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: and Gatlinburg, Tennessee, complete with forty thou pairs of shakers. 177 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: But I split recently. I believe between two museums UM, 178 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: the second being in guadalest in Spain, and they're both 179 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 1: owned by Andrea or Andrea Ludden and more on that. Yes, 180 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: in history, it's great, it's great, it's great, it's great. 181 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: It is that they beauty and I look forward to 182 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: talking about it um. Which means that we should probably 183 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: get into the history. But first we're going to take 184 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: a quick break for a word from our sponsor, and 185 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: we're back. Thank you sponsor, Yes, thank you. So just 186 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: to reatorate, we do have episodes on salt and pepper, 187 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: but the histories of those things go way way back. Yes, 188 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: and it's perhaps worth mentioning again in this one. Both 189 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: were expensive for a long time, and that's a sign 190 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 1: of status and wealth for a long time, and in 191 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: self case, the source of a lot of superstition. Yes, 192 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: since spilling it was seen as an ill omen because 193 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: it was so expensive. Yeah. Yeah. And for as long 194 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: as these things have existed, UM, and and especially as 195 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: long as they've been status symbols, there have been decorative 196 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 1: optacles for them. UM. Sculpted gold and silver figurines with 197 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: holes for dispensing pepper have been found dating back to 198 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: at least the Roman Empire circle like fourth century ce 199 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: um and at the time they were called a piperratorium piperratorium. 200 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: Prior to the nineteen twenties, salt typically came served on 201 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: a small plate or in a bold old out vias 202 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: spoon because the salt often attracted moisture and clumped together. 203 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: And this was called a salt seller and a bunch 204 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: of other things too, but primarily in documents, I sell 205 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: salt seller. Uh. These dishes ranged from extremely simple carved 206 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: wood to extremely extremely ornate silver or gold or whatever. Yeah, 207 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: and some of these are legit pieces of art. Infamous 208 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: sculptor ben Venuto Cellini crafted this gold salt and pepper 209 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: set in the fifteen forties for the King of France, 210 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: Um Francis the Second, I think it was at the time. 211 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: And uh, this this card. These card figurines representing the 212 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: Goddess of the Earth and the God of the Sea 213 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: lounging around nude and there's a small boat for salt 214 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: and a temple for peppercorns, and the temple has also 215 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: a nude figure of the Goddess of the Earth on 216 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: top of it. It's like but smaller than the other one. 217 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: It's it's a whole thing. Um. Uh. It includes a 218 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: removable golden trident the doubles as a pickle fork. Uh. 219 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: It's a lot. That's amazing, I know. And furthermore, Um, 220 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: in the early two thousand's, this this piece was in 221 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: a museum and a security alarm specialist stole it and 222 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: kept it hidden under his bed and then buried in 223 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: like a local forest for over two years while attempting 224 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: to collect ransom from the museum. Um. Finally he was 225 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: caught and returned it. It was valued at the time. 226 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: It was valued at the time, it's sixty million dollars. 227 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: Whoa wow, I see he's going to be haunted by 228 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: the ghost. Whoever that's salt seller? Where is it? Just 229 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: keeping it oer his bed and burying it like it's nothing. 230 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: Come on, Oh, he was trying to hide it because 231 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: you know, he kept he went through like all these 232 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: cell phones trying to communicate with the police like, hey, 233 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: I have this thing, give me twelve million dollars for it. U. 234 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: That's why he was finally caught because they traced they 235 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: traced one of his cell phones. Say but yes, all 236 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: of this to say, salt sellers and dishes were a 237 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: whole thing. Um. But castors for other seasonings were relatively 238 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: common from there on. Wealthy folks in Europe or It's 239 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: colonies might have had silver or china sets for their tables. Um. 240 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: For for all of these then showy expensive colonization driven 241 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: products like sugar um and probably later ground or cracked 242 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: peppercorns and powdered cayenne pepper and probably later on mustard powder. Um. Yeah, 243 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 1: other other materials would have included like pewter and horn, 244 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: and museums and collectors have loads of examples of these 245 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: just so finely made shakers from all of these famed 246 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: silversmiths and companies like Tiffany's and Paul Revere, who today 247 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: I learned Paul Revere was a silversmith by trade. I 248 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: never knew that, or if I did, I that had 249 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 1: been lost to my brain a long time ago. Yes, yes, 250 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: I did not know that either. There you go, learning 251 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: all the time. Um. By the late eighteen hundreds, crystal 252 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: or cut or blown glass sets were pretty posh um. 253 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, salt still all this time came in the cellar. 254 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: It was just tricky, But that changed in the nine 255 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: thanks to Moreton salt, and yet that one out of Chicago. 256 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: To deal with the clumping problem with salt, they added 257 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: a magnesium carbonate. This meant that salt could be poured 258 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: from containers. By this time, salt and pepper had already 259 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: become entwined in the social consciousness, frequently served together, and 260 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: pepper already it didn't have the same clumping issues salted, 261 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: so it could already be poured. So the shakers were 262 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: often paired with the differentiation of the salt shaker having 263 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 1: a single hole all pepper had two or three. I think, 264 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,479 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's still true, but that's how 265 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: it was at the time. There you go, Gobel or Google. 266 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: It's been a long time since I took Germany. Everyone 267 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 1: took Germany. I took German. I didn't do anything in Germany, 268 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: I swear. The Fine Pottery maker out of Germany was 269 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 1: one of the first to produce these shakers. Its first 270 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: three sets came out in n and it's nineteen hum. 271 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: Shakers are a highly collectible item these days. Shakers experienced 272 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: an increase in popularity during the Great Depression. For a 273 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 1: few reasons, ceramic producers had to shift focus to cheaper items, 274 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: and at a couple of cents, they were affordable for 275 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: people struggling. These shakers moving out of the twenties and 276 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: into the thirties, other ceramic companies worldwide got in on 277 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: the shaker game, including several out of Japan. Production ceased 278 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: during World War Two, and the shakers produced immediately after 279 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: the war were labeled made and occupied Japan or occupied Japan, 280 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: and these are very hard to find and also very 281 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 1: desired collectible items. In the early years of the shaker, 282 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: they were more practical than showy. Uh for the most part. 283 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: It wasn't until the automobile became more widespread in the 284 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: fifties that we saw the rise of novelties. Shaker a 285 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 1: collectible item, a souvenir type thing the travelers could purchase. Uh. 286 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: They were inexpensive and easy to transport, perfect for collectible items. 287 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: The fifties and sixties is also when companies started producing 288 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: plastic salt and pepper shakers. But these early plastic models 289 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: were easily easily breakable and not many have survived, and 290 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: yes also highly sought after a collectible item because of that. 291 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: Oh and speaking of in the nineteen eighties, Andrea Letdon, 292 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 1: a trained archaeologist who had pivoted to focus on everyday life, 293 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: kind of like items of everyday life that tell the 294 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:42,239 Speaker 1: story of our modern era, purchased a pepper mill at 295 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: a garage sale. Unfortunately it didn't work, so she bought 296 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: a few more, and she set them along her window sill, 297 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: and people saw that and thought she was collecting them, 298 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: though according to her, she absolutely wasn't. Wasn't her intention. Um, 299 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: And they started giving her more and more until she 300 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: had thousand of them. Yes, and she kept them all 301 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: over the house, all like in every room you'd find them, 302 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: because she had fourteen thousand of them. Yeah, I can't imagine. 303 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: According to Andrea, husband gave her an ultimatum, find a 304 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: place for these things, or we're getting a divorce. So 305 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 1: what do they do. They decided to open a museum, 306 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: of course, Yeah, and oh, you can find all kinds 307 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: of shakers in there. You've got things like Santa's boots 308 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: poking out from a chimney. You've got pistols, a copy 309 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: of Princess Diana, salt and pepper cuff links, beetles of course, 310 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: of course, a washer and dryer, a lawn mower, a 311 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: TV and a couch that was a pair. All the vegetables. 312 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: You can imagine all of them, all of them, all 313 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: of them, um frogs, lore, rooster's galore. And they also 314 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: own pornographic shakers, but they don't display them at the museum. 315 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: They say, I think she said, her daughter said, they 316 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: have fourteen pairs. But yeah, sure, some of the some 317 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: of the paired shakers that are that are figures that 318 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: are meant to go together will have um either little 319 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: like interlocking parts or little magnets in them so that 320 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: like little like kissing figures can kiss and stuff like that. 321 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 1: So you know, I'm sure that people again human ingenuity. Yeah, 322 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure. The lawnmower one was one of the 323 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: first that they found that had like mechanics where I 324 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: think you can pull something in turn it. It's both 325 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: the salt and pepper shaker is in that way. Yeah, Yeah, 326 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: I'm pretty fascinated. Yeah, by the ones that are a 327 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: single figure with different holes, like different sections for the 328 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: salt and the pepper, and you have to like tilt 329 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: it different ways to get each out. That's pretty cool. 330 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: It's pretty cool. But I feel like I would consistently 331 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: over salt or over pepper, or get just like two 332 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: little or like a little of both but not enough 333 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: or oh yeah no no, I disastrous, but yeah definitely, 334 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: oh not disastrous, but very interesting. Um, the Novelty Salt 335 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 1: and Pepper Shakers Club, then called the Salt Shakers Collectors Club, 336 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: came together. Membership got so high that they split into 337 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: two distinct groups in seven, the Novelty Salt and Pepper 338 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: Shakers Club and the Antique Glass Salt and Sugar Shaker Club. Yes, 339 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: very different. I love it. I do too. I do 340 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: to the Novelty Salt and Pepper Shakers Club host conventions 341 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: that have costume contest. I must no more. I need pictures. 342 00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 1: I need pictures. And I was also very delighted I 343 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: the tech facts in their history sections. So that kind 344 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: of a bullet point history section on their website, and 345 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: it includes technical facts like a o L website creation date, 346 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: Facebook page creation date. It's so underodle. I love it. 347 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: Ah big dates and yeah they're there are members around 348 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: the world. Um that that yearly convention UM put off 349 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 1: this year due to COVID, but coming back in Attendees 350 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: can purchase their what else a commemorative Shaker set yes 351 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: from from the website. The Shaker subject matter is typically 352 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: determined by the convention theme. The design is always a 353 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: guarded secret until it is unveiled at the convention. A 354 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: limited number of sets are produced each year. For exa 355 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: ample teens theme was Shaker's Rock. Um. The event was 356 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 1: in Cleveland that year, so yeah, I get it, Clington 357 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: Rocks Shakers Rock okay um. And it featured like a 358 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 1: stage and these little figurines holding guitars. Um, this is amazing. 359 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: And the logo was kind of done up like it 360 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 1: was Sergeant Pepper, but it was like salt and pepper. Yeah, 361 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: it was. It was pretty cute. UM one that I 362 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: am very fond of. Uh and included a photo of 363 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: in the outline for for your viewing pleasure. Annie um 364 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: is from two thousand six. This convention. The theme was Shake, 365 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: Shake Shake in the Garden State And if you can 366 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: allow me to quote more of the website at you. 367 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: The description of this figuring set goes as follows. A 368 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: veggie couple sit in a rolling chair in Atlantic City. 369 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: It is a wicker type rolling chair made famous in 370 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: Atlantic City, carrying a male anthropomorphic eggplant and a female 371 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: anthropomorphic corn, the corn and eggplant heads not it's so beautiful. 372 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, So this is a dude and a lady 373 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 1: and the and the dude's head is an ear of 374 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 1: corn and the lady's head is an eggplant. They're both smiling, 375 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: having a nice time in their wicker chair, and the 376 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: heads detached, and that's where you get the salt and 377 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: the pepper out of But but they also um the 378 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: way that they sit in the bodies, in the in 379 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: the in the holders, um, they're they're they're allowed to 380 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: like rock back and forth a little bit so that 381 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: it looks like they're nodding if you kind of jiggle 382 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: it a little. Oh wow. And and their shoes or 383 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: we got some flip flops, yeah, some sneakers, some pretty 384 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 1: sweet kicks. Yeah. And sometimes I just have a moment 385 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: where I'm thinking, we are food show, What's what's happening. 386 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: I never thought i'd have to you would have to 387 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: describe what pepper shakers are. But it's so great, it's wonderful. Yeah, 388 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: I am. I am so delighted by this entire world. Um, 389 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: you know, yes, it's definitely a rabbit hole like rabbit 390 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: hole to day listeners, This go look up images. Yes, 391 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: pepper shakers. I'll try to remember to link this on 392 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: social it's also good. Yeah yeah, um, hours of delight 393 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: to be whoa. I guess that's what we have to 394 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 1: say for now about salt and pepper shakers. Yep, that's it. Um. 395 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 1: We do have some listener mail for you though, Yes, 396 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: but for we have a quick break for a word 397 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: from our sponsor, and we're back. Thank you sponsor, Yes, 398 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: thank you, we're back with listen snorm. Oh Patrick Stewart impression. 399 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: Could you do those? Oh no, not at all. Mm hmm. Yeah, 400 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: I said that's I don't want to try it for 401 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 1: the first time right now on air. Yeah, but I 402 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: will give it a go. But that was supposed to 403 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: be the John Lady impression of Patrick Stewart. Um, I 404 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: never nailed. I was working on William Shatner. I got. 405 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: I got a little close, but not known. That's wrong. 406 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: That is totally wrong. I got better than what it was, 407 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: still not close. I like the but but no, I 408 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: like that we're developing a theme of U Star Trek 409 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: Captain in person or Star Trek Captain actor impersonations. Either way. Yeah, 410 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: I feel like of a lot of them. Oh, I 411 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know what I would be best at, 412 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: off the off the cuff. I don't really do impressions, 413 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: so I don't do them well, but I attempt them 414 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: all the time. I I can do the Owen Wilson wow, 415 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: and it. It actually embarrasses me because I just kind 416 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: of do it naturally, and especially one of our coworkers, Chandler. 417 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: Every time I do it, he just laughs at me. 418 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: And I don't mean to do it. But that's my 419 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: one guy going for me, right, Yeah, Oh, I guess 420 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: I guess I do. I guess I kind of do 421 00:29:52,080 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: Ralph Wigham like that's my Oh that's the only one. Um. Yeah, 422 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: that's very specific. We have a short list of impressions 423 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: we can do. I actually compiled a spreadsheet. I never 424 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: sent it out, but I was gonna ask everyone in 425 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: the office, like, what are some impressions you can do? 426 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: Because I was just curious. All right, Yeah, I remember 427 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: us talking about that. Oh you should, you should get 428 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: that up. Yeah. I would love to know, and then 429 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: we could bring in like we ever need a specific impression. Yeah, 430 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: this is critical information. It is it is. But anyway, 431 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: maybe quarantine projects, yeah, all right, um, Megan wrote, I 432 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: was just listening to your pod on kool aid, and 433 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: I was reminded of my college marching band days. Every 434 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: section of the band had a rookie party, where this 435 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: section initiated the freshman rookies with various ridiculous and safe ceremonies. 436 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: Once the rookies were initiated, the sections would party. The 437 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: trumpets section my freshman year developed a drink called blue Juice, 438 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: play on the blue valve oil all brass players use. Uh. 439 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: I never thought about how it was made until I 440 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: was section leader myself and frantically texted those o G 441 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: trumpets on the recipe. Turns out it was blue koolid 442 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: and vodka and soda. My fellow section leader and I 443 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: ran to the store to grab blue kool aid, and 444 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: unbeknownst to us, we grabbed the sugar free kind. We 445 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: made the whole drink and tried it, and well, it 446 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: was awful, But the rookies were almost there and we 447 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: were in panic mode. Cue all of the upper glassmen 448 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: in off campus apartments running to their places to grab sugar. 449 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: We made the drink drinkable, and we learned an important lesson. 450 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: You need to add sugar to the packets of coolid lesson. Yeah. So, 451 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: as Lauren knows, I could go on and on and 452 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: on about my marching band complaints. I kind of want 453 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: to start a side show that's just Annie complains about 454 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: marching band like it. Yeah, but this brought back several 455 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: memories for me. Um. Also, the worst hangover I ever had, 456 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: um was something a similar drink blue vomit May five, Um, 457 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: my brother's birthday. I had to go. It was binny 458 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: Onna And if you've ever been hungover at ABATCHI grill, 459 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: it's not good. Oh my goodness, I believe you. I 460 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: don't think I've had the pleasure of that. No, no, no, no, no, 461 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: no no, it's I was very afraid I was going 462 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: to vomit all over that girl top. Uh. Drink responsibly, Yeah, 463 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: drink responsibly, that is Yes, add sugar to the packets 464 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: of kool Aid and drink responsibly. These are the lessons, Yes, 465 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: valuable lessons all. Caitlyn wrote. I wanted to email about 466 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: comfort foods. There are a few foods I can only 467 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: get when I visit ended family, so they have been 468 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: the foods I want when I miss them. Living a 469 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: few states away the top three. Um and forgive me, Caitlin, 470 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: my togolog is terrible. Um. So the top three are Olympia, adobo, 471 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: and pork synagogue. For me, Olympia is the ultimate snack. 472 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: Can be stuff with a variety of foods, eating hot 473 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: or cold, with or without dipping sauce, even with a 474 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: variety of sauces. Plus, they're small and you can just 475 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: keep eating them until you pass out from joyful stuffedness. 476 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: The crispy egg roll like food will always be my 477 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: first love. Pork synagogue is one of my favorite things. 478 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: My Lola or Grandma would make if you had a cold. 479 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: According to her, the sour soup would drain the sick 480 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: right out of you. With a tamarain based broth. Oh um, 481 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: it was so sour. It will really make your nose 482 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: run because the broth is so sour. Cheap fatty cuts 483 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: of pork is the family's favorite meat to put in 484 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: it since it mellows out the tamarind. Add some hardy 485 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: root vegetables and greens, and his chok full of vitamins 486 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,719 Speaker 1: as well, served with rice, and everything would magically balance. 487 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: Adobo is the waiter one because growing up my Lolo 488 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: would mostly make a dry adobo that she grew up making, 489 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: cooking normally pork, but could be any meat in a 490 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 1: vinegar herbed liquid until it all dried up and the 491 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: house smelled of it for nearly a week. Apparently that 492 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: was how she learned how to cook extra meat that 493 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 1: she wouldn't be able to get to before it would 494 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: go bad since she didn't have any refrigeration growing up. 495 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: You can leave it out on the counter for days 496 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 1: and just eat it with rice and whatever vegg you want. 497 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: The rice is very necessary with all that vinegar. I, 498 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: on the other hand, got a recipe from my oldest 499 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: aunt that uses equal parts soy sauce, vinegar, and water 500 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: and can cook all day in a slow cooker without 501 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: going dry. My favorite is a fatty chicken thigh because 502 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: I can pull it out, bake until the skin is crispy, 503 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: and he was some coconut rice. This is my ultimate 504 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: guilty comfort food, more so since going pastytarian. The fatty, 505 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: salty sour broth poured over the sweet soft rice and 506 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: eaten with a crispy, melty chicken thigh that falls off 507 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 1: the bone. It has all the flavors and they place 508 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 1: so well together. I'm so hungry. I want that so family. 509 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: Oh it is my favorite thing when I have a 510 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: craving for something I've never tasted before, but that sounds amazing, 511 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 1: it does um. And I have to say, Caitlin, a 512 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: lot of people have written and said, especially Lumpia, are 513 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 1: comfort foods. These are comfort foods that get mentioned a 514 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: lot among our listeners. So you're clearly onto something. And 515 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: I can like just these descriptions. I can see why. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 516 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Um oh there's a place in town 517 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 1: that makes, um a version of Lympia that UM have 518 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: like a fresh dough rapper, um, not deep fried. And 519 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 1: oh they're so good. Heck, oh my gosh, they're so 520 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:57,800 Speaker 1: far away from me right now? Why are you so 521 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 1: far away? All right? 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