WEBVTT - Pod Meets Twirl'd: The Traitors 406 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:23.200 Welcome to Pod Meets Twirl, the podcast from two guys 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:25.160 who had never seen an episode of Dancing with the 0:00:25.200 --> 0:00:28.479 Stars but took it on and walked away experts. So 0:00:28.600 --> 0:00:33.280 now we turn to trade us another show I've never seen, 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:35.800 while Will is convinced that he could win it. We 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:38.919 are Wilferdell and Ryder Strong, two best friends, won a 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:43.760 TV expert, one a TV skeptic, both dance scholars join 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:47.159 us as we step into a castle full of lies, alliances, 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:50.440 and over the top wardrobe choices. This is Pod meets 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:52.440 Twirled trading places. 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:54.560 Yes cue the Hood? 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:56.720 Yeah, so are we just going to always have a 0:00:56.760 --> 0:00:58.320 video clip of view of the hood to start us off? 0:00:58.480 --> 0:00:59.800 I was just thinking the same thing. It's like if 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:03.520 they use it every week, I'm just in always interest. 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:06.120 It was just me in a hood for maybe you 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:09.200 should just like spontaneously wear it halfway through an episode 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:10.279 or like a good idea. 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:12.600 I'm going to start dressing more and more like Alan 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:16.119 Cumming because he's fabulous every week. 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:19.959 Like he dyes his hair different colors. Yeah, can you 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:21.560 wash that out that easily? 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:22.200 I think you can't. 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:24.240 I also think it's really bad for your hair to 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:25.920 continually change colors. 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:28.160 It's not healthy for your hair. I just I know 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:29.399 that we died Indy's hair. 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:31.720 He wanted to have blue hair when he was doing 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:34.120 like a rock concert thing, and it was like it 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:36.840 was blue forever. Oh god, it was so much blue, 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:38.120 like blue all over the man. 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:40.000 Like, I mean, you and I did weird ship with 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:41.560 our hair, but you never did any colors. 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:44.800 No, I mean, okay, so I did frosted tips. 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:48.200 Yeah, I did that when I did the movie Buccanege 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:50.280 at Ours and I got frosted tips because my brother 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:51.520 was in it and we wanted to make sure we 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:52.080 look different. 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:55.320 So I wanted to have like lighter hair. And that's it. 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:59.200 That's like the only, the only real dye. I did 0:01:59.240 --> 0:01:59.520 the same. 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:01.480 I did frosted tips in the nineties, and then I 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:05.400 did kind of a reddish orange for h double hockey sticks, right, 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:05.920 that's right. 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:09.160 Yeah, I remember that they wanted like I wanted to 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:11.880 like bleach my hair at one point when I was 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:13.959 like ten, I wanted to like bleach the top of 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:15.440 my hair because I think there was like a really 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:17.360 cool kid on my soccer team who. 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:20.560 Had like that like swoops, like a team. Oh my God, 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:23.320 I imagine the hippy soccer team must have been interesting. 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:27.600 You know, soccer's pick up and up, and it is 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:29.280 because it's basically a big hacky sack. 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:35.600 I get it. But anyway, my parents wouldn't let me, 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:38.400 which is interesting to think about it now, Like, did 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:40.760 you ever do son In? You remember son In? No? 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:42.840 So son In was like this might have they might 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:45.320 have stopped it because it's basically all carcinogens. I'm sure 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:48.920 it was a spray bottle that you would spray in 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:50.760 your hair and then when you stayed in the sun, 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:54.160 it would make your hair lighter. So it was that 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:58.799 it was like a sun bleaching process. Yeah, just really cool, 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:02.960 but that's I'm sure it was horribly unhealthy. That's funny 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:03.840 my scouts bleeding. 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:14.440 Yeah, brought to buy son In by son In exactly. 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:18.960 Okay, here we are finally we can cover an episode 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:22.639 without knowing what the next episode is, just taking one 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:25.799 at a time, Yeah, because a lot happens in one 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:28.560 episode on this show, and when you get into it, 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:32.200 like when we did four for our first like recording session, 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:36.000 just too much, man, I think that like the show 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:38.160 is so much better in little doses. Why do you 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:39.400 think they did that. Why do you think they were 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:40.360 released four in a row? 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:41.160 I don't what. 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:45.160 My guess is probably it's something along the lines of 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:49.240 we still don't know what all the streaming numbers are. Right, 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:51.120 So my guess is you take what has to be 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:53.960 one of their biggest shows and you flood it because 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:57.160 you want people to buy Peacock or download Peacock, because 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:58.200 they want to get traders. 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:00.480 And so my guess is that's why they do it. 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:03.000 Why they do four and then three and then one 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:04.920 or whatever they did three and then two and then 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:05.960 one that I don't understand. 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:06.720 That doesn't make any sense. 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:09.240 It's like, okay, front load it, do three, but then 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:10.360 do one after that. 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:13.520 But no, I might answer to that is I do 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:19.520 not know. Okay, well, at breakfast we learn no one 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:23.560 was murdered, but we also learn plenty of salmon. The 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:24.720 first thing you said. 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:31.040 Okay, so they have to be developing a storyline here. 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:35.280 Something is going to happen in like the the closing 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:37.440 twist of it, because you would never leave all this 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:40.440 in just as like a weird like joke, right right. 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:43.440 It's so it's either like the great like an editor 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:46.760 just having the funnest time in the world, or somebody's 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:49.159 gonna like turn on somebody because they ate all the salmon. 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:50.880 Do you know what I mean, Like it's gonna be like, no, 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:53.200 you're a trader because you took the salmon and you 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:55.600 lied about it or something like that. Yeah, it's gonna 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:56.760 it's gonna be like. 0:04:57.080 --> 0:04:57.839 You know, the clue. 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:00.240 It's gonna be like the thing that turns the whole 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:01.280 mystery around. 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:05.800 It's weird. It's a weird storyline to just keep u 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:08.320 it's it's like a red hair. 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:16.440 Yes, it's I think it's I think it's gonna end 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:19.719 up being like an essential clue to or essential twist 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:21.720 for somebody, like turn on somebody else or. 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:24.440 I hope so, I hope I really he always ate salmon, 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:26.760 and then they didn't it must be lying. 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:30.359 Do you also notice when they did the recap of 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:34.800 the last episode, they did not put in Michael's comment. 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:40.080 I noticed that it kind of episode Yes. 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:42.440 Which do you think they just didn't want to Maybe 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:44.640 they just didn't want to walk that minefield or I mean, 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:48.320 who knows, but I was kind of amazed that they 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:49.320 didn't throw in that comment. 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:53.280 Yeah, well, you know, it's We're in an interesting time 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:55.640 with stuff like that, because I feel like, you know, 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:57.960 the sort of cancel culture moment. 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:01.840 That we've had been living through for a while, it's over. 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:05.440 It's subsided a lot, and I think that people are 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:07.719 a little exhausted by the self righteousness of like just 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:09.640 pointing fingers, and so maybe that was enough. 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:11.120 They were just to be right. Heel, he dug his 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:13.320 own grave, he lost, he got kicked off the show. 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:14.919 We don't need to we don't need to bracket it 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:17.400 again talking about it, no, because. 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:19.440 You know, I kind of half expected Colton to bring 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:22.280 it up or to like and it's just kind of like, no, 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:23.960 you know, he said something. 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:25.960 Shitty and we all moved on, and I. 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:28.680 Was like, good, good for the show kind of you know, 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:31.760 like I'm sure he's dealt with it in public, like 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:34.200 social media and stuff. Michael's probably dealing with the follow us. 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:36.680 The show doesn't need to like align itself with like just. 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:40.240 The question too is I'm so curious as to the 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:43.520 editing process of the show, because you wonder what they're 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:44.080 cutting out. 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:46.080 And it was one of two things. 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:48.000 Either everyone got together and decided we're not going to 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:50.680 mention this again, or the show went we're going to 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:52.599 edit around it. We don't need it anymore either one. 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:54.640 I agree with both of both of those possibilities. 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:56.600 I agree too. I think it's like, you know, let's 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:58.200 just we did the thing we could do. 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:00.760 We don't need to, like, you know, key patting ourselves 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:03.640 on the back, or keep being aghast at how awful Michaels. 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:05.360 They didn't even talk about him at all, which is no. 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:07.400 They mentioned them what kind of one time at the 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:08.800 at the roundtable, which was great. 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:12.680 But it's also interesting because they were wrong, you know, 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:17.600 like they they did the right thing, but they're playing poorly. Yep. Still, yep, 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:18.600 they continue. 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:21.240 To play poorly at this game. 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:26.880 Rob who's a genius? Well is he anymore? I mean, 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:30.840 well get that. Yeah, it's a good it's a good 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:32.080 im into it, all right. 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:35.320 So we get a flashback to the turret where Alan 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:37.760 delivered the news that they don't get to murder anybody. 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:41.679 Pause that scene because we do come back. There's more 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:44.560 to it, but at this point that's all we get. 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:48.320 So you surprised, Were you surprised nobody took a shield? 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:48.760 Yeah? 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:50.640 I actually was. I kind of was a little bit too. 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:52.000 I thought they were going to say somebody took a 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:55.440 shield that was pleasantly surprised that everybody stuck to their word. 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:56.160 Yeah. 0:07:56.360 --> 0:08:02.320 Yeah, So the Traders were planning on banishing Ron or 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:04.960 letting Ron get banished, right of course, and then murdering 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:09.080 Colton because uh, he has said Lisa's name, dared to 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:13.040 say's name, She's gonna cut his throat, like, oh my god, 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:16.400 this language. I'm just like, dude, I wouldn't say this thing. 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:17.520 I'm sorry, like, you. 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:20.640 Know, because she said a couple of things this week too, 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:23.840 where it's like just making your middle name doesn't make it. 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:25.120 That's what I was gonna say. 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:27.760 I forgot to say in my intro I'm riding strong. 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:32.040 It was strong before Traders, and I'm right strong after 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:33.040 bod meets Twirled. 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:35.640 I love it. I was like, that is like, what 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:38.400 does that mean? It means nothing, but I kind of 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:38.880 like that. 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:42.160 I kind of, you know, somebody did say that to 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:44.880 me once, like I did something and I was like, 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:46.679 maybe I shouldn't have done that or I don't know. 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:48.559 I was like trying to be humble. 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:51.040 And they're like, no, you're riding strong, and I remember 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:51.960 being like, what a. 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:55.080 Cool way to live. I wish I couldn't. I could 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:55.559 never do. 0:08:55.600 --> 0:09:00.480 That like that a self aggrandizing kind of amazing. Were 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:01.679 then to. 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:05.240 Be like you know, can I would, at least in 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:05.679 your own head. 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:06.680 I wouldn't say it out loud. 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:08.840 But you know, maybe that's because, I mean, come on, 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:11.800 you probably I mean, I know you're gonna say because 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:14.079 of the panic attacks and the anxiety. But I know 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:16.920 you were a super confident guy when you were a 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:20.560 teenager on Boy Meets World. But for anxiety maybe a year, 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:22.560 for like a year or two. Maybe not right at 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:24.319 the beginning and not at the end, but there's a 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:26.800 lot of You've got to have so much confidence in 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:31.040 yourself to be that funny and to go that far jokes. 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:33.480 And I feel likely comedically confident, confident. But then I'd 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:35.320 go home and just sit by myself in the door. 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:36.640 But you know that's true. 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:40.360 I never left my house even early on. No, not really. 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:42.760 I feel like in conversations I could, I could, I 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:45.319 could see a track in your head going, yeah, I'm 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:48.360 will confided in a good way. I'm saying this is 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:50.000 a compliment, it's a positive thing. 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:52.680 I think the funniest thing is when we The twist 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:55.400 is actually finding out her legal name is Lisa. 0:09:55.720 --> 0:10:01.800 Lisa. It's actually it's pronounced fuk. It is an old 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:06.320 Scottish name from my family side, so that would be 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:08.040 the best, all right. 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:13.680 Well, Colton immediately calls out Lisa for the sunglasses, which 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:14.760 is a good point. 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:17.760 I am a huge proponent of that. I've always said 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:21.960 there's three reasons to whar sunglasses inside. You are drunk 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:25.400 or high, or over or hungover, you've just been in 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:27.199 a fight, or you're an asshole. 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:30.679 Those are the only three reasons to wear some more 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:32.760 man like. Yeah, I used to. 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:36.720 I worked with the director Blake Edwards, legendary film director 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:40.160 married to Julianders, and he never took his sunglasses while 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:40.839 directing on. 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:43.959 A stage, no, a sound stage with lighting. It was 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:44.559 always like. 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:47.560 I judge you, sir, I judge you. You want a jackass, 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:50.040 take your glasses off. Don't trust anybody won't let me 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:50.640 see their eyes? 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:55.480 All right? So yeah, the salmon thing comes up again. Uh. 0:10:56.160 --> 0:11:00.280 Colton pulls Derinda aside immediately and just starts getting right 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:02.120 into It's Lisa, Lisa, Lisa. 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:06.800 But here's the things he's He's he's right, obviously, but 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:08.760 he's lost all credibility. 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:10.520 I know, it's gone. I know. 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:13.800 So it sucks because he's finally aiming in the right direction, 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:16.160 but aiming with a completely unloaded firearm. 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:20.800 So every time that he pushes her, either in public 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:23.880 or even when they're alone, she's not very good. 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:26.960 She's terrible. Yeah, she's like what I mean, I would 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:27.920 just I would have caved. 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:32.600 I mean, it's just it's strange because it seems like 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:34.960 her and I'm not trying to come at her personally. 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:37.120 I don't know her, but it seems like her acting 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:38.320 should be better than it is. 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:40.400 And maybe it's. And here's the other thing. 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:43.680 I'm sure there is a something psychological, some kind of 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:47.600 name for it where we think we know that she's 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:50.160 lying because we in fact know that she's lying. Does 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:52.720 that make sense, Like, no, no, she's not telling the truth. 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:54.040 So we could be like, she's bad. 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:55.400 I know she's not telling the truth. 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:58.000 But it's actually it's not even the performance, because the performance, 0:11:58.000 --> 0:11:59.800 I agree, And that's it's hard to know. 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:02.000 I think I trust. 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:04.319 Everybody all the time, Like I'm not good at spotting liars, 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:07.200 so I just assume that, you know, so it's not 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:11.080 really the bad like bad performance. It's like she literally 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:14.280 says nothing. She's just like, no, I'm not a trader. 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:15.000 You're a trader. 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:16.520 I'm a faithful you're faithful. 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:17.800 Just add a. 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:19.680 Little bit more, just like, yeah, I'm trying to play 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:22.360 it cool because blah blah blah, or I came in 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:25.200 and instead she just yells and says no, I'm not. 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:26.959 And it's like kill a little something. 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:29.959 And you know, yeah, if you literally, if you're self 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:32.319 aware enough to say something like, look, I'm one of 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:33.080 the housewives. 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:34.679 I'm on a show where we just yell at each 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:36.680 other all the time. This is a game. I figured 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:39.319 I'd come in and try to actually play the game and. 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:42.400 Quiet down argus that would be an argument that, I mean, 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:44.440 that makes more sense than just going no. 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:47.760 The one little move she does at breakfast is she 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:51.280 says she's gonna housewife it up, and so she asks 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:54.959 for wine and champagne. And I was like, oh, she's good, 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:56.800 she's gonna play big. But then she didn't really stick 0:12:56.840 --> 0:12:58.280 with it for the rest of the episode. I know you, 0:12:58.480 --> 0:12:59.360 until she's. 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:04.480 Yelling ridiculous bowl of peeled eggs that they're passing around. 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:08.160 It is like a like a salad bowl filled with 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:10.240 hard boiled eggs that had already been shelled. 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:13.920 Very strange giant bowl of eggs. So it's just it's 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:15.400 a show about eggs, since it is. 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:17.760 To me, it's eggs and salmon, is what. Then they 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:19.280 asked for toast at one point. I think it was 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:20.760 all the toast points all right. 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:25.320 So after breakfast, the players discuss strategy and everyone's still 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:28.880 on Rang. Everyone's still on Ron except for Colton, who 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:31.720 is dead set on Lisa. Yeah, and I you know, 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:33.400 I was just like we talked about this a lot 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:37.000 last time, so you know, I don't think we need 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:38.480 to beat it to death, but I do feel raw. 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:40.960 It's just unfairly kind of getting jumped on. 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:43.800 And he knows it too, and he kind of leaned 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:45.800 into it this time where he was just like everything, 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:48.200 I'm gonna go, Like everybody knows I'm going to get 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:48.800 be kicked off. 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:54.040 So, uh, Lisa gives a horrible performance say no in 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:56.120 the kitchen. It was so what is wrong with you? Like, 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:59.480 I don't know, maybe I wouldn't catch it. I don't know, right, 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:02.360 and I don't know. Really interesting scene with Ron and 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:07.680 Rob playing chess and you know, Ron's basically admitting that 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:09.800 everyone's going to vote him out and he knows it. 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:14.559 And then Rob basically admitting, like, no one takes me seriously. 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:17.440 They just think I'm a dumb Southern boy. Ron is 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:20.040 very kind, compliments him, goes out of his way, which 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:22.960 is super interesting given how much he was like my 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:25.480 family's none of your business to during the last week 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:28.720 or yeah. Instead, now he's like, I've seen you with 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:29.200 your family. 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:29.920 I know how you are. 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:32.520 You're a good man, like he gives you know. But anyway, 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:36.560 these two guys bond, which I was like, where's this going, 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:39.080 Like this is not a good move for Rob, and 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:42.800 because he's you know, he knows they're kind to bandish 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:44.880 him and he should probably be supportive of that because 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:47.920 it's good for his trader strategy, which turns out to 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:49.440 be kind of an issue. 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:53.440 So Ron's complimenting worked. I love it. 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:57.600 I love what he's doing. It's also never think somebody's 0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:00.320 an idiot. If the way they pass the time by 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:04.240 constantly playing chess, you're not an idiot. So he might 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:08.400 absolutely absolutely if that's the way you like to pass 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:09.520 the time, because I want to sit down, I want 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:10.280 to play chess with people. 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:12.720 Chances are you're not an idiot. It's just a thinking game. 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:16.000 So it shows that you like strategy, you like to think, 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:19.480 you like Chess is literally designed to think several moves ahead. 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:22.120 So I mean the idea that this is what this 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:23.800 guy loves to do is sit down and play chess. 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:26.600 He's totally playing under the radar. He's really he's by 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:28.400 far the best player in the game, in my opinion, 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:31.080 by far the best player in the game. Super likable, 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:33.040 so everybody loves all the people are coming up to 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:34.520 him going like I love you in the shirt you're 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:36.960 my trader's husband, Like I'll never vote for you. 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:39.440 And meanwhile he's killing people left to right. 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:44.120 And meanwhile in the library we had Johnny making moves 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:47.840 and he starts this whole plan about getting a group 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:49.760 of eight, which. 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:51.880 Seems like a risk. 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:54.360 I mean, like it's a lot of people, you know, 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:56.920 like it's hard because I feel like Johnny and Mark 0:15:57.120 --> 0:15:59.800 are both actually playing pretty well. 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:03.520 They're just getting edited like they're they're they're being down. 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:06.000 Yeah, but like they make moves like you watch them, 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:08.080 they're like trying to do stuff, and they're they're grabbing 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:11.960 people and pulling them in discussion. It's just less personal dramatic, 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:15.040 and it doesn't It ultimately doesn't work. It hasn't gone 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:17.000 nowhere like they've now they've been haven't been able to 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:17.640 make any. 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:18.920 Of these big moves that they want to. 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:21.120 But I think they are playing, so I wouldn't be 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:23.840 surprised that those guys become pretty important players. 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:27.320 As I said, Johnny is my is my kind of 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:27.840 dark horse. 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:30.000 But at the same time, when you're like, we need five, 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:32.640 but we need eight people any names eight and three 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:34.840 or three of them, You're like. 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:36.480 Oh, but that's the problem with the whole strategy is 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:39.600 like you can't you can't build an alliance and then 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:42.080 point fingers that like just the person that everyone was 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:44.080 probably going to vote for anyway, you know. I mean, 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:46.920 in this case, they are talking about maybe going to Colton, 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:51.040 but like either it feels like they're just kind of 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:54.240 grasping a straws and it's but at least they're trying. 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:56.120 At least they're doing something. You know, so many people 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:57.600 are just kind of not doing anything. 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:15.560 I have a very strong feeling that when the show ends, 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:19.000 we're gonna hear from Mark Ballast we're gonna hear from Kristen, 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:21.520 We're gonna hear from Johnny, We're gonna hear from Tara, 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:23.960 all kind of saying we would talk for hours at night, 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:27.119 and we're like, not in the show at all. Because 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:31.520 they finally cut to Mark in a talking head where 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:33.520 he's by himself, and I'm like, oh God, have we 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:36.159 had this yet? Have we had Mark actually talking to 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:38.920 the camera by himself, Like, I'm not sure we've seen 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:39.479 that before. 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:43.040 So yeah, but that might also kind of be the 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:45.520 best way to do it. You just fly under the radar. 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:47.040 The next thing you know, there's six of you left, 0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:49.080 and then the game kind of starts right right, So 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:49.600 who knows? 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:51.560 It's hard with this many people? 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:53.760 Man, Yeah, I mean it does feel like they're just 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:57.359 attacking the weakest social, weakest player and taking them out 0:17:57.520 --> 0:18:01.040 to thin the herd and they can't screwing up. Yeah, 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:02.840 So Carlton says he's going to tell as many people 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:06.879 about Lisa so that if he's murdered, she has a 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:11.879 target on her back, which is seems like a yaller 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:13.800