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Speaker 1: Newe Scrugs. Here we are. It's a Monday. Everybody. Welcome
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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys safeties as they get here. Insights into the
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Speaker 1: how players act here. So welcome in Barry Church and
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Speaker 1: You know what's having? You better get in seventy two
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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh by Wednesday. Man, this is looked like you booked
Speaker 1: you cooys. Put sticks on somebody, all right, They know
Speaker 1: who they are, but I ain't gonna say no. He
Speaker 1: is the LSU Tiger, the Ultimate Survivor. Danny mccraie feeling
Speaker 1: real good here on a Monday I am merely knew
Speaker 1: he scrugs and the players Une podcast a monks just
Speaker 1: talking about the Cowboys all year long. We have had
Speaker 1: a very interesting and fun quarterback debate between Danny's beloved
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow LSU National Championship and NFL Comeback Player of
Speaker 1: the Year. By the way, that happened since we last
Speaker 1: spoke Joe Burrow, scot for that sounds like you were wrong,
Speaker 1: come right, and uh yeah that because for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: that I thought it was that first seven weeks he
Speaker 1: had locked up. He did, he did, then he just
Speaker 1: he just left his hand along the way as Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow just reel that Comeback Player of the Year on
Speaker 1: in there. I don't know about seven, but the first
Speaker 1: few weeks he had like the firsts seven weeks, first
Speaker 1: seven weeks, man, first seven weeks it was you know,
Speaker 1: you go ahead, it's his name on it there many
Speaker 1: they had the name play ready to go to slap
Speaker 1: on there took away, so Adam Schefner and Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: so Joe Burrow, it was was Danny's guy all year long.
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert of the Chargers was Barry's guy all year long,
Speaker 1: and for the first seven weeks. It was justin Herbert
Speaker 1: looking good, looking good, and then Joe Burrow, like the
Speaker 1: Comeback Player of the Year award, just just slowly reeled
Speaker 1: it on it. When they when they, when you talk
Speaker 1: about the NFL, and so many times we hear this
Speaker 1: as fans, but don't really listen to it. It's not
Speaker 1: a sprint. It's a marathon. And when you look at
Speaker 1: the marathon of what has happened and now you see
Speaker 1: that the Cincinnati Bengals are going to play the Rams
Speaker 1: and the people, you truly see that when you look
Speaker 1: at Joe Burrow. Um, to me, Dad, that was the
Speaker 1: one thing that stood out to me. Is the marathon
Speaker 1: of what the National Football League season in. It tells
Speaker 1: you who you are. You know, Joe Burrows, that guy
Speaker 1: he is. I gave cred he is that guy, all right.
Speaker 1: That man came in there. You saw him with the
Speaker 1: shades on out, got the bubble vest jacket on. I
Speaker 1: mean the guy was swagged out and he went to
Speaker 1: the field with that same swag. I mean he went
Speaker 1: out there. You know, the offensive line was looking terrible
Speaker 1: for the most part of the game. He was able
Speaker 1: to elude those guys in the pocket, pick up first
Speaker 1: downs with his legs, pick up first downs with his arm.
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy was electric. I'll give it to
Speaker 1: the guy was electric all year long, and this year,
Speaker 1: like I said before, this year he was better than
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert. I gotta give it to him. The guy
Speaker 1: led his team to the super Bowl. Right now, who's
Speaker 1: gonna win? I don't know, but the guy's done it
Speaker 1: without an offensive line. Now he got some pieces around him,
Speaker 1: but without an offensive line at quarterback. That being that
Speaker 1: young and he's being able to do what he's doing.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's pretty amazing. The guy. He's the truth,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I'm gonna ahead and give my guys,
Speaker 1: get my guys flowers right now. Okay, this this is
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna say, Joe Burrow, think of this path
Speaker 1: comes from Ohio State. Because I don't know if y'all
Speaker 1: saw what he said, yes, so he said, he don't
Speaker 1: know why all these Ohio State fans keep trying to
Speaker 1: claim him. He is an LSU guy and will forever
Speaker 1: be LSU guy. All right, comes there. First year, everybody's
Speaker 1: little question want Joe Burrow. We have no idea what
Speaker 1: he's gonna be like, why did we why we get
Speaker 1: this dude in the transport portal? Second year? What does
Speaker 1: he do? National champion, Heisman winner? All right? The last
Speaker 1: year he comes in, Joe Burrows playing decent, He's playing okay,
Speaker 1: he gets hurt. You're like, man, how's he gonna be
Speaker 1: when he comes back? They pick up his god Jamar Chase.
Speaker 1: Second year, a guy going to the Super Bowl. And
Speaker 1: I remember when they lost to the Jets. I remember
Speaker 1: my man Barry was like, yeah, they lost to the Jets.
Speaker 1: I was like, listen to to just give a lot
Speaker 1: of people problems. All right. I don't know, but listen
Speaker 1: they gave. They gave Tom Brady problems to go. I
Speaker 1: don't know about all that. But then Antonio Brown quick, yeah,
Speaker 1: now he's just saying anything ahead. So Joe Burrow last
Speaker 1: two games of the season, I think he had something
Speaker 1: like eight touchdowns a thousand yards. He goes into it.
Speaker 1: He knocks out the number one seed on the road.
Speaker 1: What he knocks out the number two seed on the road.
Speaker 1: Wou losing his tight end, being down eighteen points in
Speaker 1: the first half, comes back, defense played out standing. So
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna just give it all the Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1: Defense came out, they played out standings, but like you said,
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow offensive line lacking a little bit. He put
Speaker 1: the team moners back. He's running for first downs a
Speaker 1: couple of them back to back, and them dudes going
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl from New y'all. I listen, I
Speaker 1: gotta say this too. I'm not sure man, the head coach,
Speaker 1: he got some he wanted to talk some noise to
Speaker 1: you now because he was over and talking about all
Speaker 1: believe Joe Burrows come jump jump on them and do
Speaker 1: you like Joe raid Joe. That's all that. Listen, all
Speaker 1: that listen. What we talked about for Mike McCarthy not
Speaker 1: being able to do here is being able to make
Speaker 1: certain adjustments and make sure that the special teams are
Speaker 1: defense and offence is clicking and and making the right
Speaker 1: I guess time management decisions in those game time decisions.
Speaker 1: He did that. They did that. They took advantage of
Speaker 1: things that Kansas City was not able to do yesterday.
Speaker 1: Same thing they did in the Tennessee And there was
Speaker 1: no flaw in the coaches game. And he's now going
Speaker 1: to be coaching the Super Bowl in his second year.
Speaker 1: I mean as the Cincinnati Beingles said, coach when was
Speaker 1: Zach Table's first year was in Cincinnati, UM the year
Speaker 1: after the nineteen so it was the year before Joe
Speaker 1: was the years he was with the Rams on the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl team, and then he got the job after
Speaker 1: that he was a quarterback coach and had a big
Speaker 1: long resumes quarterback coach and got the head coaching job
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati. I mean listen and look he's he's going there.
Speaker 1: I'll say this third year, sorry, third years. His what
Speaker 1: he did, especially for their defense. Just looking here at
Speaker 1: the possession chart the AFC Championship game, end of half,
Speaker 1: Eli Apple has the stop stops Hill, so end of half,
Speaker 1: all right, so they prevent points getting on the board.
Speaker 1: And this is what happened for Kansas City the rest
Speaker 1: of the way, all right. Second half punt, putt, interception, punt, punt,
Speaker 1: field goal, interception. And you're looking at these drives, all right.
Speaker 1: Second half five plays punt, five plays, punt, two plays interception,
Speaker 1: three plays punt, three plays putt, fourteen plays, forty nine
Speaker 1: yards field goal. Then in overtime three plays interception. You
Speaker 1: couldn't have told me. I wouldn't have laid a dollar
Speaker 1: on Cincinnati doing that to Kansas City. And when you
Speaker 1: look at what happened in the first half, first half, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, yeah,
Speaker 1: and then end of half nothing, so they were not stopped.
Speaker 1: Eleven plays touchdown, seven plays touchdown, eight plays touchdown, seven
Speaker 1: plays end of half. But did you watch the first
Speaker 1: game though? This was literally a mirror. They going to
Speaker 1: second half and the defense steps up with some type
Speaker 1: of crazy adjustments and Patrick Holmes cannot figure out how
Speaker 1: to get the ball into the end zone. You just
Speaker 1: let me ask, is it on Andy Reid going into
Speaker 1: that halftime? Would you go for the points on there?
Speaker 1: Or where you got five seconds left? You got my
Speaker 1: homes the offensive roll and they had throughout three straight
Speaker 1: possessions where they score touchdowns. You have five seconds left,
Speaker 1: you go for the fifth play I'm calling. That's just
Speaker 1: not the player I'm calling, like, at least give it
Speaker 1: out a quick hour. You got your photo phase, you
Speaker 1: got a second goal. That was bad. I was bad.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing Here's why I'm kicking. I'm getting the ball.
Speaker 1: You just saw the drive, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown. Now I'm
Speaker 1: right here, I'll take the field goal. Take the field goal.
Speaker 1: Then I'm getting the ball. So I got three points
Speaker 1: at the end of the half. And now when we're
Speaker 1: in the middle phase, when the middle fa the second
Speaker 1: third quarter, when the middle phase of the game. So
Speaker 1: I got three at the end I come back. Let's
Speaker 1: just say I kick a field goal here, so that's six,
Speaker 1: or if I get a touchdown, or that's ten. Give
Speaker 1: me the swing. I'm able to make the swing right
Speaker 1: here in my offense is feeling good. Oh, by the way,
Speaker 1: I want them to go and a half. I feel
Speaker 1: good about anything. Not having a shot, but you're not
Speaker 1: gonna take it, Like you got enough time to take
Speaker 1: to take a shot, I thought, on a face, Yeah
Speaker 1: you know what you thought, saying, yeah, what if you
Speaker 1: don't have you throw it out the end zone. You
Speaker 1: got one second, two seconds left, you kick the field
Speaker 1: go I mean, but throwing it inbounds and then assuming
Speaker 1: that Tyrek hills it listen forget. Like I said, Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow lost its tight end. It is tight end, was
Speaker 1: making some noise and them dudes went out there, man,
Speaker 1: and I was just excited for him. I was happy.
Speaker 1: But you just knew that the second half something was
Speaker 1: gonna change. Just just based off what happened in the
Speaker 1: first game. I just didn't think they were gonna keep
Speaker 1: running through them like they were doing. It was it
Speaker 1: shout out to Cheeto, man, my man lead the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: and man, it's something about it's something about dudes who
Speaker 1: be leaving here and going to other teams and going
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. We had mold here, old Cheeto hitions.
Speaker 1: I went to the linebacker, Um Damien oh Wilson, Wilson,
Speaker 1: he was, look, I'm just it's just something. So shout
Speaker 1: out to them, you know, shout out to my man.
Speaker 1: Joe burd NFL cum Bay play in a year and
Speaker 1: you know, good luck to him. I want to see
Speaker 1: them get a DUB. I want to see them get
Speaker 1: a DUB. I think that'd be good for Cincinnati. I
Speaker 1: think Cincinnati is going to pack so far stadium. I
Speaker 1: think they go who they It's gonna be out there
Speaker 1: four point underdogs right now, cording to loss Vegas four
Speaker 1: point underdogs here. Uh, they're going to have an opportunity
Speaker 1: in the game because number nine is number nine. But
Speaker 1: also when we're not talking about it enough because it's
Speaker 1: such an offensive league, but that defense for Cincinnati, you
Speaker 1: look at these three wins that they have. This this
Speaker 1: is a heck of a defense. You talk about beating
Speaker 1: the one seed, two seed, and then you go to
Speaker 1: Kansas City and beat them two times in a row.
Speaker 1: They've got a really good defense. Yeah, and that's not
Speaker 1: being talked about it enough. I don't know if people
Speaker 1: can you know the average is getting three players off
Speaker 1: the defense. Yeah, they don't. Anderson Apple not for good reason.
Speaker 1: You see how you went on after the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a little baby cheater right there. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know what, And let's I hope we all get
Speaker 1: to pay attention to what happened in that game. Okay, Joe,
Speaker 1: they down by eighteen points. You know what they did
Speaker 1: not do go away from the run. Joe Mixon was
Speaker 1: still getting chances to run the ball. They were still
Speaker 1: running little screens to p run. They did not get
Speaker 1: away from the offensive game plan, and they trusted their
Speaker 1: defense to keep them in the game. The opposite of
Speaker 1: what we did against Kansas City when we held them
Speaker 1: to nineteen points. Like the recipe for success is here
Speaker 1: is there. Do not go away from the run. If
Speaker 1: you're just getting one yard here in the first quarter,
Speaker 1: one yard here in the second when they got to overtime,
Speaker 1: Joe Mixing closed that game out here like he's running
Speaker 1: for ten, he's running for twelve. He's punishing these dudes
Speaker 1: and they have no idea how to stop them with
Speaker 1: what to do? Take a knee kick the field goal
Speaker 1: and no, no hate on see I'm not really hating
Speaker 1: on Secret with this. But how dynamic Joe Mixing. I
Speaker 1: mean there's cuts that this guy was making. I mean
Speaker 1: there's guys in his lap. Boom, I'm cutting here, Boom,
Speaker 1: I'm cutting here ten yards. He's like a combination of
Speaker 1: politic Zeke right now, hopefully we can get back. But Joe,
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon is a good He's a good running back.
Speaker 1: They running styles are different, but there are ways to
Speaker 1: maximize Zeke's abilities. We've seen it in previous years where
Speaker 1: you have certain type of running, but he's a certain
Speaker 1: style of runner. Don't try to make him do nothing
Speaker 1: next year, a right, give him some screens where you
Speaker 1: see the dude running for eighty yards out running folks.
Speaker 1: Let him hit the powers up up the middle of
Speaker 1: punish these dudes, and then you the end result will
Speaker 1: be what you've seen Joe Mixon do at the end
Speaker 1: of the game. But when you when you get them
Speaker 1: three in the first and three to the second, yeah,
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna see nothing from Zeke. Joe Mixon would
Speaker 1: have put put some hands on them dudes. And if
Speaker 1: they didn't give them the ball, all right. So going
Speaker 1: back to emphasize when you talked about running the football.
Speaker 1: First half, Cincinnati ten rushes fifty one yards. Second half
Speaker 1: seventeen carries, sixty five yards. Ended up total twenty seven
Speaker 1: rushes for one hundred and sixteen yards in the football game. Um,
Speaker 1: so the numbers bear out what you said. They just
Speaker 1: didn't stick with the run and they decided to increase
Speaker 1: the run more when they were down eighteen. I would
Speaker 1: talk about it each and every time we come on here.
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily getting the hunting fifty yards and getting
Speaker 1: these guys ah man, they're going off there running the ball.
Speaker 1: It's keeping this defense honest. And when you do that,
Speaker 1: when you rush the ball twenty seven times, the guys
Speaker 1: like Frank Clark, Chris Jones, those guys are there. They
Speaker 1: can't just pinning their ears back and go crazy on
Speaker 1: your offensive line. They got to respect the running if
Speaker 1: they rushed up field like that, they're opening up run lane.
Speaker 1: So just having that attempts twenty seven attempts keeps that
Speaker 1: defense honest and un lets you do other things with
Speaker 1: your offense. And here's also what it did here and
Speaker 1: in the game the winning an overtime, you start looking
Speaker 1: at the time of possession Cincinnati thirty five minutes fifty
Speaker 1: six sss. So basically thirty six minutes. They only allowed
Speaker 1: Mahomes and company to have the ball for thirty minutes.
Speaker 1: That's another way you went the club game. If you
Speaker 1: put him over there sitting there, and we talked about
Speaker 1: the second half drives they didn't have. They couldn't do
Speaker 1: anything in the second half. They didn't have the football
Speaker 1: very long. This defense for Cincinnati, along with the quarterback,
Speaker 1: I mean, let's speak this bull drive here, they could
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl. Talking about adjustments like you can
Speaker 1: win if you against against Stafford and if they take
Speaker 1: advantage of the opportunities the forty nine ers wasted. Know what,
Speaker 1: Stafford's gonna give you twice a game. He gonna give
Speaker 1: you something that you just gotta capitalize on it. He
Speaker 1: tried it, and this defense can deal with He did it.
Speaker 1: You're talking about defense. He was consistent in a half,
Speaker 1: Like these guys went to put the Kansas City go
Speaker 1: three straight drives with three straight touchdowns, and they go
Speaker 1: them up to the second half and they can't sniff
Speaker 1: the end zone. I mean, that's a hell of a
Speaker 1: job coaching defensively and getting these guys in the right position.
Speaker 1: Let listen and then let's let's not gloss over this,
Speaker 1: because I was making sure I was on Twitter when
Speaker 1: I heard Tony say this craziness side we talked about
Speaker 1: how good the defense was playing, right and I'm like,
Speaker 1: do he think that that that they lose him right now?
Speaker 1: He's like, let him score. I'm like, huh, let him
Speaker 1: score with a minute left, and to have Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: have to mark all the way down the field to
Speaker 1: score touchdown, I'm like, keep be mindset, man. I'm like,
Speaker 1: what yo, bro, you talk your defense is playing that well,
Speaker 1: and that's and that's the plan that you come up
Speaker 1: with lety no hold to a field goal and then
Speaker 1: go to overtime. Let your team go out there and
Speaker 1: play defense like they did. And it worked out like
Speaker 1: it was supposed to. These Dode score three points in
Speaker 1: the second half and in overtime, and you have to
Speaker 1: let these do score. You losing that game. I want
Speaker 1: it on my shirt. I want to be the guy.
Speaker 1: They got no time ouse, No, I got no timeout
Speaker 1: in them. And that's also how the first half ended
Speaker 1: the way it did. The defensive coach is gonna go
Speaker 1: ahead and let's kick this field goal, get to this point,
Speaker 1: defensive go to singing that way. Offensive got, let's go
Speaker 1: thro the fai, let's do this, let's go No, no
Speaker 1: trying to be greedy. Man's a football game. And for me,
Speaker 1: and and know it's hindsight to say it, but I'm
Speaker 1: talking to about myself. Man, you may need that three.
Speaker 1: You just may need that three did sure enough, man,
Speaker 1: you get that three. Who knows how things are different,
Speaker 1: But to me, Andy Reid needs to catch the same
Speaker 1: heat that Sean McDermot caught the week before. Hey, man,
Speaker 1: you you have to be smarter. You have to be
Speaker 1: as great as Patrick mahomes is. He's sometimes coaching. You
Speaker 1: get drunk on all that all that stuff. You see
Speaker 1: all it. Man, No, no, look man, you gotta be prudy.
Speaker 1: You gotta be the parent. You gotta be one non
Speaker 1: Now that's what we're gonna do. And I'm sorry to
Speaker 1: have the kind of football team they had and to
Speaker 1: have this opportunity. They should be as sick as the
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills are that you're sitting at home, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: should be. I mean, I don't know who's sicker between
Speaker 1: the Bills and the Chiefs. Us Well, I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say the Bills just because they they didn't
Speaker 1: get a shot. Man Like, at that point, they might
Speaker 1: still be playing out there, they might still be going
Speaker 1: to because you shouldn't squim kick, you know, you should
Speaker 1: have you know. But anyway, since the way Cincinnati end
Speaker 1: of the season, they they got hot at the right time,
Speaker 1: rolling on defense, rolling on offense, and I'm not sure
Speaker 1: who would have been able to stop them do like
Speaker 1: they just had the recipe for since since running game
Speaker 1: pass game defense, playing well like these are. When your
Speaker 1: three thirty three phases are playing like that, that man
Speaker 1: hard to stop. Before we put this game to rest, man,
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear nothing about these overtime rules. Right,
Speaker 1: we should't get bush told be a college type of fair. No,
Speaker 1: you see what Cincinnati, they went out there, played good defense,
Speaker 1: got the ball back and when they were saying, that's intercept,
Speaker 1: that's the that's the point of it. I know, I know,
Speaker 1: I know, me and Church is gonna be on different
Speaker 1: side of them because Buffalo Defence wasn't stopping nobody, nobody.
Speaker 1: I'm saying that, but they they weren't stopping nobody before overtown,
Speaker 1: and they nain't sure wasn't about to start stopping them.
Speaker 1: And when overtime started, like they had no shot. Neither
Speaker 1: one of them had no shot. That that that was only
Speaker 1: Agains when you looked at you said, whoever, whoever wins
Speaker 1: the ball, talk it's gonna get the done. And you
Speaker 1: see Joe Burrow face when Kansas City got the coin
Speaker 1: toss He's like hard. Patrick Mahon's super excited because they
Speaker 1: know sometimes that coin tosses is you know what's gonna
Speaker 1: side and winning losing, it's still a shot with it.
Speaker 1: They wasn't it. They did it, and and most of all,
Speaker 1: let's end it with this. Jerry Jones got to go
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl watch Mike Brown's babes the Bengals
Speaker 1: and figured it out. So you're gonna sit up here
Speaker 1: just getting popped out. I just got popped out. A
Speaker 1: couple of days. I mean, I mean, damn, Jerry's got too.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, look at the desert. The Bengals have
Speaker 1: wandered and walked through. They figured it out. Zach Taylor
Speaker 1: is the suit, is going to coach in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: And Jerry has been all that you was dealing. You
Speaker 1: brought him McCarthy, and you had Jason Garrett and your
Speaker 1: head a wave. You brought it Bill Hall of Famer. Bill,
Speaker 1: you've been You've been wandering a dead trying to figure
Speaker 1: this thing out. Here's Mike rab boom hit easy button,
Speaker 1: got it up in there. Let's draft him out. Let's
Speaker 1: get a quarterback. I mean, wow, drafting him the number one.
Speaker 1: You got your number one received number one quarterback. And
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, it's pretty sick too. Now that's
Speaker 1: Stephen ross backstory is Stephen Ross was telling his people, man,
Speaker 1: we need to lose these games. We get Joe Burrow,
Speaker 1: Ryan Florida, we win it. We got two ups and
Speaker 1: Floridas without an So you miss out on Joe Burrow,
Speaker 1: maybe a Ross mad nub one miss out on Burrow.
Speaker 1: Didn't draft Justin Herbert shots And this is this is
Speaker 1: also what I don't want how I want her numb
Speaker 1: about Trevor launcht Joe Burrow too, because I know that's
Speaker 1: gonna visually come up, because that's that was the conversation.
Speaker 1: I don't want to hit nothing about that. Okay, give
Speaker 1: let Joe Burrow have his time. He might go out
Speaker 1: here and win the Super Bowl MVP of his second year,
Speaker 1: coming off a touring acl everything he did to his knee,
Speaker 1: NFL Comeback Player of the Year could possibly be the
Speaker 1: super Bowl MVTE in the second season of his NFL
Speaker 1: career playoff wins Dak Prescott one playoff win, and I
Speaker 1: had a writer hit me up on Twitter and just say, Okay,
Speaker 1: there's a franchise guy at Cincinnati. Do you really have
Speaker 1: a franchise guy in Dallas? And that's the question that
Speaker 1: this person. So let's let's take a break to dive
Speaker 1: into Dak Prescott franchise talk, especially looking at what Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow has just done. And oh, by the way, Matthew Stafford,
Speaker 1: criticized for years, has now got an opportunity to win
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl in his home stadium. He's buried church. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I just you know, check in my phone here since
Speaker 1: you know my day job of of being day slash
Speaker 1: night job being a sportscaster here Dallas four. Um it
Speaker 1: says interview opportunity with Dak Prescott, Aaron and Drews and
Speaker 1: Juju Smith at seven to eleven if hit at the Star,
Speaker 1: So they gonna come to the Star here on Wednesday.
Speaker 1: And um, I guess Juju says, uh yeah, so Juju
Speaker 1: Smith Schuster, I guess he's supposed to be joining Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott here with the seven eleven teen And they say
Speaker 1: off limit, off limits interview topics. Please note, Dak will
Speaker 1: not discuss anything related to the forty nine Ers playoff game.
Speaker 1: You know that's what everybody want to know. So you're
Speaker 1: gonna tell us to come out here and talk to
Speaker 1: Dak from two to three. Then you say, he know,
Speaker 1: I'll talk about the playoff game. Yeah, we'll talk about slurpees.
Speaker 1: Get you. They're trying to say they got they got
Speaker 1: a little sticks of chicken wings and set me. Look, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't eat another, and I ain't never eating another.
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Speaker 1: in spicy good will always love the Slurpee. When things
Speaker 1: go wrong, man, you make sure we make things better
Speaker 1: with the slur But anyway, so dat don't want to
Speaker 1: talk about the fourth we talked about Joe Burrow. So
Speaker 1: you about to go in on back now over here? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was being great, great, Yeah, me and my kid
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Speaker 1: dumb yet the heavy I like a dumb bill. When
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Speaker 1: the thirty pounders than a thirty pound one for the
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Speaker 1: love everybody, I love them, I love I love I
Speaker 1: love everybody. Let's let's let's talk about that. So I
Speaker 1: get the email or should I get the text from
Speaker 1: from a writer who talks about that man? Joe Burrows
Speaker 1: got three wins now they're going to play in the
Speaker 1: Super Bow. He's a franchise guy. Do you really have
Speaker 1: a franchise guy in Dak Prescott as your quarterback? And
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones was on the fan last week and Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones says, yes, he really believes Dak Prescott is that
Speaker 1: guy that to take the Cowboys the super Bowl and
Speaker 1: win it. And I talked about it last nine on
Speaker 1: Channel five as well, and one of the things that
Speaker 1: we must be fair and must tell the truth. The
Speaker 1: questions are have increased now based on what happened in
Speaker 1: the playoffs and not getting it done. Despite everything that
Speaker 1: happened in that game against the forty nine ers, the
Speaker 1: Cowboys got the ball back with under three minutes to go,
Speaker 1: an opportunity to go down the field and win it. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you got two forty two to go. This is
Speaker 1: what this is all you want as a quarterback. Everything happened,
Speaker 1: it wasn't perfect, wasn't great, but you have got the ball,
Speaker 1: you were at your house. You can go down the
Speaker 1: field and get to the next round. It didn't happen,
Speaker 1: and we can blame penalties, you can blame refs, you
Speaker 1: can blame play calling, but at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: number four got the contract and number four was in charge.
Speaker 1: I must talk about it. You must talk about it,
Speaker 1: and we can must talk about it in a fair way.
Speaker 1: So when you ask the question, especially when the person
Speaker 1: was trying to talk about Joe Burrow, do you have
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback? Well, I'm gonna answer that question. You know,
Speaker 1: like you said, you gotta be fair, and I think
Speaker 1: he's a hell of a player. I think Dad is
Speaker 1: a hell of a player, and he's a great leader
Speaker 1: on and off the field. But when you talk about,
Speaker 1: you know, those elite guys that can do it, you know,
Speaker 1: no matter who's on the field, whether they have a
Speaker 1: good defense or not, any matter who's at the wide receiver,
Speaker 1: wh no matter who's at the tight end, you're talking
Speaker 1: about the Bradies of the world. You're talking about the
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers occasionally of the world. It's hard for me
Speaker 1: to put him in that same category because he has
Speaker 1: everything offensively. He has the trio receivers that are supposedly,
Speaker 1: you know, top ten receivers in the league. He had
Speaker 1: the tight end offensive line. It wasn't great, but it
Speaker 1: wasn't anything as bad as Cincinnatis. And look at what
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow has been able to do. And it's not
Speaker 1: like his defense was god awful, because we saw they
Speaker 1: take the football away better than any team in the
Speaker 1: National Football League. So the excuses just aren't there for
Speaker 1: him to lean back on. And it comes back and
Speaker 1: like you said, two forty eight or two forty two
Speaker 1: in the game left, you're that franchise guy. You got
Speaker 1: the contract. This is what everything you know, quarterbacks dream
Speaker 1: up putting it. But like we talked about it with Joe,
Speaker 1: putting it on your back, putting the team on your
Speaker 1: shoulders and leading him down the field. And he wasn't
Speaker 1: able to do that. And this isn't the first opportunity
Speaker 1: that he's had to be that guy, and he wasn't
Speaker 1: able to come through for the team. So I think
Speaker 1: he's a hell of a player, of course, I do. Do.
Speaker 1: I think he can be that franchise guy. I do,
Speaker 1: But we gotta see some of it. We gotta get
Speaker 1: some of the dividends back, We gotta see some of
Speaker 1: that return on that, and hopefully they're able to do
Speaker 1: it moving forward. But right now, I can't put him
Speaker 1: in that elite category. I can't put him in that.
Speaker 1: It's a franchise cannot I cannot put him there. Yet.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the same stance that I took last
Speaker 1: season with my man, uh Mike Nolan, Okay, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna put this on the guys who are supposed to
Speaker 1: be helping this young guy be a better quarterback. You're
Speaker 1: supposed to be putting him in situations that are advantageous
Speaker 1: to him and his squad. And I believe if you
Speaker 1: have that guy, Dak Prescott is a franchise quarterback. Watched
Speaker 1: the game, like we talked about yesterday when we talked
Speaker 1: when we watched Stafford, right, Stafford tried to throw that
Speaker 1: game away, all right. McVeigh had to get in there
Speaker 1: and start calling, a man, we're gonna get some more runs.
Speaker 1: We got Son to michell, we got cam makers. We
Speaker 1: have to make sure that we're not putting it in
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford's hands that much because he does have a
Speaker 1: tendency to throw throw some picks. Same thing with Joe Burrs.
Speaker 1: As good as Joe Burrow played yesterday, they had twenty
Speaker 1: seven rushes, you know, so they still they still had
Speaker 1: a balanced game and their coach was able to say, listen,
Speaker 1: we're gonna allow our defense to keep us in this
Speaker 1: game and we're gonna stick with our game plan and
Speaker 1: it's gonna work out for us at the end. How
Speaker 1: many times have we seeing us not be able to
Speaker 1: do that throughout this season? We have not stuck to
Speaker 1: a game plan. We have no offensive identity. Nobody knows
Speaker 1: like we're a running team with a passing team, or
Speaker 1: we're three by one and make sure that we get
Speaker 1: our guys the ball. Are we just scheming up and
Speaker 1: stuff to try to get guys open. We have no
Speaker 1: identity to that aspect. If you have a guy who's
Speaker 1: able to get you that with the Dak Prescott, with
Speaker 1: the number one receiver and with the running game, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that the story is totally different. As you've
Speaker 1: seen when Dak was was the offensive rookie of the year,
Speaker 1: Zeke was the leading rusher, they were rolling right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they didn't make the Super Bowl, but super Bowl is
Speaker 1: hard to get to. But they look like a totally
Speaker 1: different team than they have for the last two to
Speaker 1: three years. But is he truly a franchise guy if
Speaker 1: he needs all of that, If he needs that you know,
Speaker 1: great run game, if he needs a coordinator to be
Speaker 1: able to you know, play the game out for him,
Speaker 1: if he needs his defense to be able to is
Speaker 1: he truly a franchise guy with all those names? Well,
Speaker 1: I don't think he so I would say this. I
Speaker 1: don't think he needs a running I think they need balance,
Speaker 1: they need they need a person your offensive coordinator, because
Speaker 1: you're able to scheme up that the Patrick Mahomes is good.
Speaker 1: But we talked about Eric b Enemy should be getting
Speaker 1: a head coaching job because what he's able to help
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes do. DAC needs one of those guys as well.
Speaker 1: And we can't just say, man, this that what five
Speaker 1: six years in league. It's not. That's not like a
Speaker 1: twenty year vet. Like he's seen all the stuff that
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers the scene. He's still still
Speaker 1: a guy who's trying to get him an offensive coordinator
Speaker 1: who can help him be better. He has not to me,
Speaker 1: I don't believe he's had that yet since he's gotten
Speaker 1: in the league. I think when they went to thirteen
Speaker 1: to three, they were running the ball, they were pounding it.
Speaker 1: We had a great offensive line and we were able
Speaker 1: to lean on that and then let Dak do what
Speaker 1: he needs to do. So let me play off what
Speaker 1: you just said here and do we compare to what
Speaker 1: we saw yesterday. Here's Matthew Stafford people talk about for years.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, armed talent, good guy board Detroit, can't
Speaker 1: win a playoff game dot dot dot. You put him
Speaker 1: with Sean McVay. Sean McVay, now his as system that
Speaker 1: tailors to his talents and he takes advantage of it.
Speaker 1: And then we now see Matthew Stafford's playing in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Do you you do you consider that could
Speaker 1: be the issue here when you're talking about that. I
Speaker 1: don't consent that is the issue. I think that is
Speaker 1: the issue. Cooper Cup when when? When? When it? When
Speaker 1: it really got to nut Cut in time, it was
Speaker 1: two guys that they were looking for, Cooper Cup, Odell Beckham.
Speaker 1: You looked outside and you saw the dude playing eight
Speaker 1: yards off O'Dell and he ran. The first one he
Speaker 1: ran was like an eighteen yard comeback. The next one
Speaker 1: he ran was a skinny post back to back. They're like,
Speaker 1: we're gonna wear this dude out because mine is better
Speaker 1: than yours. When have you seen us do that? I
Speaker 1: haven't seen it. Cooper Cup, same thing. Hey man, Look, hey,
Speaker 1: this guy's a triple crown, got most catches, most touch down,
Speaker 1: most of all that. We're gonna make sure we find
Speaker 1: this guy because he's gonna help us win the game.
Speaker 1: And then we saw that when it came nut Cuttown.
Speaker 1: The entire second half was Odell Beckham and Cooper Cup
Speaker 1: both over a hundred yards, both numbers, Cup Cooper, cup
Speaker 1: Cooper cups, Cooper cups third down numbers, eight targets on
Speaker 1: third down, seven catches, one hundred and eight yards, and
Speaker 1: two touchdowns all on. So when Jerry Jones says, Amari
Speaker 1: Cooper should be getting this type of stuff and you know,
Speaker 1: like you should be able to find the guy, we
Speaker 1: do not. We do not let that happen for us,
Speaker 1: right abou s. So you see Cedric Wilson getting passed.
Speaker 1: Hell oh, Mark Cooper and Ceedee Lamb should be the
Speaker 1: two guys that we're focusing on in those situation. Are
Speaker 1: we gonna put that all on Kelly? I mean, Dak
Speaker 1: is the guy with the ball in this football in
Speaker 1: his hands. This is the guy that you know is
Speaker 1: getting this huge contract. How are we gonna put it
Speaker 1: all on Kelly's calling the plays? I get you that
Speaker 1: Kelly's calling the plays, but that is the one that
Speaker 1: has to go out there and execute it. So I
Speaker 1: think he has the cash to go out there and
Speaker 1: say you know what, hey, Mare, I'm lining up over here.
Speaker 1: I'm getting you the rod. So is he a guy
Speaker 1: on a rookie contract? That's like okay, I gotta I
Speaker 1: gotta conform to whatever my offensive courtnettor says, or is
Speaker 1: he that guy, that franchise guy getting paid all this
Speaker 1: bucks to say, you know what a damn all that
Speaker 1: this cooper go ahead and get this this route though
Speaker 1: you know it's it's tough because if you go about
Speaker 1: your way of thinking, it's like, okay, we gotta put
Speaker 1: it on a long o c all on Kellen Moore.
Speaker 1: But if I'm Dak, you got the cash to be
Speaker 1: able to say, you know what a mar you're out here,
Speaker 1: get this job done out here, and I'm gonna throw
Speaker 1: you the rods like they're giving Kellyn's like here, Dak,
Speaker 1: this is who you have to throw the ball to
Speaker 1: this I got you. I'm saying what my point is,
Speaker 1: Kellen has to help that, right if you, if you,
Speaker 1: if you, if you are, if you're in there with
Speaker 1: with Dak the entire time as much as Keiller Moore is,
Speaker 1: and you can see a deficiency or something that he
Speaker 1: may be lacking it, you, as an offensive coordinator have
Speaker 1: the responsibility to help this guy be able to see
Speaker 1: what you think he's not seen, right, And you can't
Speaker 1: just say right, well, all right, Dak you you you to, dude.
Speaker 1: So if I call something ain't right, man, players make
Speaker 1: no as a quarterback position, that ain't it. You have
Speaker 1: to make sure that Hey, man, I've watched for five
Speaker 1: or six games where this is what you're missing. So
Speaker 1: this is what we're gonna put in to make sure
Speaker 1: that you don't miss those opportunities. Right, because we saw
Speaker 1: what happened to Mark Cooper said it and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden to Keiller Moore found on what Keller
Speaker 1: Moore and that got. They found a way for that
Speaker 1: one game to get this dude involved in the game.
Speaker 1: This is something that, like Jerry Jones said, we should
Speaker 1: have been doing this in week three and week four, right,
Speaker 1: But this is something that the offensive coordinator has to
Speaker 1: help Dak be able to do. Quarterbacks have a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff on his mind. I've never played it, so
Speaker 1: they gotta figure out. And then when when all you're
Speaker 1: doing is passing, now you got a lot of defenses
Speaker 1: to read because guys are trying to disguise and bliss
Speaker 1: this way, bliss that way. Your office and lines are
Speaker 1: little shake you out some young guys out there. Your
Speaker 1: officeer coordinator has to help help you not all on killing.
Speaker 1: Definitely office coordinator can definitely help him be a better quarterback. Right,
Speaker 1: So let's enter it. Let's let's desk Bryant. Let's enter
Speaker 1: the Den Bryant tweeted out on the twenty third of January,
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper is far from the problem in Dallas. So
Speaker 1: let's get it straight. If you really want to keep
Speaker 1: it a buck, Dak needs to call up Romo and
Speaker 1: talk about how to read defenses so he can understand
Speaker 1: the D's weaknesses on how to utilize his weapons in
Speaker 1: certain situations. If you know football, you know I'm not bashing.
Speaker 1: It's too much talented Dallas for them not to be
Speaker 1: playing yesterday or today. That's what Den Bryant wrote on
Speaker 1: the twenty third of January, So Dental dissected. Listen, listen,
Speaker 1: he said what I said. I don't know about the
Speaker 1: whole going to call Tony and all that stuff, but
Speaker 1: putting your putting your best players in position to make
Speaker 1: those plays. He's saying, he's watching the game and there
Speaker 1: should be a lot of times where Amari Cooper is
Speaker 1: what Dak was right. I mean, what this was when
Speaker 1: you line them up in three by one whatever it is,
Speaker 1: and he's gonna find out a way to say, Hey,
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper is better than the rest of these dudes,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna get this dude with the ball. So
Speaker 1: let's figure out a way to get him in that
Speaker 1: position to where the defense has to has to play
Speaker 1: in one on one and then toss on the ball. Now,
Speaker 1: all they called Tony and all that stuff, I ain't
Speaker 1: with that, but I can understand what he's saying as
Speaker 1: far as us not putting our players in position to
Speaker 1: make those plays. Yeah, I could get with him on
Speaker 1: this as well, because I'm like, all right, like you said,
Speaker 1: but getting we've seen so far in this playoffs and
Speaker 1: then this season, if you feature your main guy, that's
Speaker 1: if you look at these two player are these two
Speaker 1: teams that are in the Super Bowl. You look at
Speaker 1: the LA Rams, they feature Cooper. He had the triple
Speaker 1: crown is yet so they feature Cup and everything they do.
Speaker 1: And then if you over there and look at Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: they feature Chase everything they do. It doesn't matter what
Speaker 1: defense is him. They're featuring those two guys. And what
Speaker 1: it comes down to me is when you're offensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: he's got to be a little bit more creative. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm not blaming it all on him. You know, Dak
Speaker 1: got the ball as well, But you gotta be a
Speaker 1: little bit more creative because we've seen from both of
Speaker 1: these teams, don't have Cup in the slide, don't have Cuff,
Speaker 1: you know, in a bunch, they'll have Cup single man
Speaker 1: over here, they'll have them in the backfield doing some things.
Speaker 1: And we all see what Chase can do with the
Speaker 1: ball as well. So there has to be a time where,
Speaker 1: you know, Kellen has to get more creative with these
Speaker 1: guys instead of thinking, Okay, it's more about the scheme
Speaker 1: and whoever's open, that's who gets the ball. Sometimes you gotta, god,
Speaker 1: that's better than everybody else's defense. You gotta feature them
Speaker 1: and you gotta give him the ball. So so all right,
Speaker 1: going back into this so DA franchise, Yes, no two things.
Speaker 1: Does McCarthy get involved in this somehow? Since you are
Speaker 1: the head coach and you're supposed to be offered to mine,
Speaker 1: do you step in here? I heard what he's said.
Speaker 1: It don't sound like he is. But I've been calling
Speaker 1: for this this last season. Hey man, vault on your
Speaker 1: own sword. This is this is this is my my sword,
Speaker 1: and I'm going out here with it, and if I
Speaker 1: die and I lose, it's on me. Right now, we have,
Speaker 1: like I said, we have no idea what happened in
Speaker 1: the lab. Okay, yeah, it's just don't know what happened
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna circle back in this on Mike. So
Speaker 1: so I go back to my experience when I worked
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, when Shaquille O'Neil got there, and there
Speaker 1: was that whole kind of question too, is he is
Speaker 1: he a championship player? Oh yeah, he puts up stats
Speaker 1: and you know, but but he's he that guy. And
Speaker 1: believe me, it was rough the first couple of years.
Speaker 1: And it was interesting because Mattie Gouchas was his first
Speaker 1: coach in Orlando. Then it was Brian Hill, then he
Speaker 1: leaves Orlando. Del Harris is his first coach with the Lakers.
Speaker 1: They fired Del Harris and they bringing Kurt Rambas. It
Speaker 1: was it was coaching number five and Phil Jackson who
Speaker 1: told shot number one, you shaping up number two. You
Speaker 1: gotta play some defense around here, and he ended up
Speaker 1: getting it out of him. And then of course we
Speaker 1: all saw the championships came and you know solidified himself
Speaker 1: as a Hall of Famer coaching matters, and Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: and Kelly Moore got a year and if not, they're
Speaker 1: gonna pick up that phone to call Sean Payton. Because
Speaker 1: Drew Brees was a nice quarterback, struggled his first couple
Speaker 1: of years in San Diego, ended up having a Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl year, but Sean Payton helped develop Drew Brees into
Speaker 1: a franchise guy. And if the more McCarthy deal can't
Speaker 1: get it done, you better believe Jerry Jone was gonna call.
Speaker 1: He already called him one. So okay, that's already. It'sn't
Speaker 1: documented in the book by Mike Florio. They already had
Speaker 1: a deal worked out with Sean Payton. So I mean
Speaker 1: you but think about it. I think you think about
Speaker 1: the guys who went through New Orleans, right, So you
Speaker 1: got Drew Brees and then you got guys who came
Speaker 1: through there, and they were they were focal points on
Speaker 1: the offense. Michael Thomas, but Brandon Cooks was there, wasn't
Speaker 1: he Ye Cooper? I mean, uh, Kamar and Ingram had
Speaker 1: his bitch like they found ways. Thomas, he found ways
Speaker 1: to make sure that got the ball, like again Jeremy Shock,
Speaker 1: who didn't know that that Michael Thomas was getting the
Speaker 1: ball and he was leading the league and catches targets
Speaker 1: and yards like and you knew he was getting it.
Speaker 1: But Sean Payton found a way to make sure this
Speaker 1: dude was in motion running the slot. He was on
Speaker 1: the back side running these slants and digs. He found
Speaker 1: a way to make sure. So it's not it's not
Speaker 1: like it can't happen. But I know Drewrees was like,
Speaker 1: hey man, you're getting the ball and see you getting it,
Speaker 1: and that is it. So Dak doesn't need to be
Speaker 1: able to do that. But Mark Cooper then has to
Speaker 1: be in that one on one situation. And I would
Speaker 1: love just to go and look and see, you know
Speaker 1: how to do win shares and all that, Like if
Speaker 1: he's really winning on these routes and being open. I
Speaker 1: would love to do some research on that for show.
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Speaker 1: I'm going out there. Uh February seer company company down,
Speaker 1: company dollar this double Jack, I'm gonna stop. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: stop over Jerry jones hometown, El Segundo. Okay, and uh,
Speaker 1: there's a little little Italian place that doesn't amazing red sauce.
Speaker 1: And we're going to go. Then you've been to the
Speaker 1: new stadium, right you've been to Oh yeah, that ridiculous
Speaker 1: as they say it is, um. It is everything that
Speaker 1: Jerry wanted it to be in the NFL wanted it
Speaker 1: to be. They wanted they wanted to go better, go
Speaker 1: one up on Jerry World, and they did. They went
Speaker 1: one up. It is the best stadium in the world.
Speaker 1: It is an amazing building. So definitely looking forward to
Speaker 1: seeing it. And hey, Stan crog he had to wait
Speaker 1: a year because because they had to delay it, so
Speaker 1: Super Bowl got pushed back here. So you know, how
Speaker 1: about it all working out for him? His Rams are
Speaker 1: going to play in the game. He's sixty minutes away
Speaker 1: from from a World Championships back from him because the
Speaker 1: Tampa Yes, yes, dan quinn is back. Okay, there's about
Speaker 1: these coaching hirings. Dan Quinn is back. After the Broncos
Speaker 1: gig went to Nathaniel Hackett, who doesn't call plays um
Speaker 1: in Green Bay, and the job went to Matt Eberflus shouts,
Speaker 1: Can I say the streaks finally ended? Jason Garrett finally
Speaker 1: had an assistant coach to become a head coach. National
Speaker 1: Toledo representative good, Toledo. Oh really yeah, they played and
Speaker 1: coached the Hall of Fame. I don't think so. You
Speaker 1: might want to go check up there and see if
Speaker 1: they still got your buff up there. I don't know
Speaker 1: how about it him. I should check that on your phone.
Speaker 1: See if Ebra Fluce is in the Hall of Fame. Jack,
Speaker 1: he was a line backing for them. But you shout
Speaker 1: out Toledo that Normally, when a guy becomes a coordinator,
Speaker 1: you want at least put him in the Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame so you can try and get to check up
Speaker 1: out of me. Usually try to. That's what happened when churches.
Speaker 1: The church didn't get that check out of church was like, man,
Speaker 1: it ain't working the hair on anybody, take his hair off.
Speaker 1: So Denver in Kansas City, two places where where dan
Speaker 1: Quinn was highly rumored to get what he is. He
Speaker 1: was inducted in two thousand and four. So he got that.
Speaker 1: Kenny so good, good, good fan. So dan Quinn comes
Speaker 1: back and if you're Mike McCarthy, feel real good. Now
Speaker 1: let's see if you can keep Joe Witt, who the
Speaker 1: Ravens requested to interview for their defensive coordinator. John It's
Speaker 1: real simple Mike McCarthy's got to get to the super
Speaker 1: Bowl next year because he got two people behind him. Afraid.
Speaker 1: We've seen this happened before. I ain't gonna aint gonna
Speaker 1: bring it up and we've seen this that's all of
Speaker 1: a sudden about you know what I'm but Jason Garrett
Speaker 1: route to the job. Oh, I think y'all sick. But
Speaker 1: I would tell you this, if there's if there's a
Speaker 1: six and ten season, there will be no offensive coaches
Speaker 1: left at this It would not be the same as
Speaker 1: that you six and teen, you start out one to sit. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: Callen and mccarthy're gonna be about here. So Jerry said,
Speaker 1: I want to fight through the friend Friday he said
Speaker 1: he called in. He's like, hey, look, McCarthy's job was
Speaker 1: never never, never, question, never doubt. So he's rolling with McCarthy.
Speaker 1: Sean Parley's gonna be rolling into TV. But guys, let's
Speaker 1: just keep it real. You gotta keep it a buck,
Speaker 1: keep it real. Gerry already tried to hire Sean Payne.
Speaker 1: The deal was agreed to, then the same three niggas,
Speaker 1: and then they gave Sean more money. So they're gonna
Speaker 1: come back and talk one more time. If McCarthy doesn't
Speaker 1: win the super Bowl. I mean literally, you have to
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl here because if Sean pay Jerry
Speaker 1: gonna say no, no, they can't sit around here. I mean,
Speaker 1: and I don't know what you call it, what the
Speaker 1: equivalent is, but I don't know, but you can't sit
Speaker 1: around here long after something and all of a sudden
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be free for you to go get
Speaker 1: and you don't get it because you still waiting on
Speaker 1: the more McCarthy trying to figure it out thing. They
Speaker 1: gotta go figure it out this year, and having dan
Speaker 1: quinnback helps, but they've got twenty one free agency. You
Speaker 1: gotta figure out who comes, who goes, and there's a
Speaker 1: whole lot. Look, they say pressure mc diamonds. Look, McCarthy
Speaker 1: better be shining because right now he gonna have so
Speaker 1: much pressure on him this season. If you if you
Speaker 1: don't get a long run, and they got at least
Speaker 1: to me, at least make it to the NFC Championship
Speaker 1: because if not, you know who's knocking at that door.
Speaker 1: And knew what you called it weeks ago. You know
Speaker 1: who's knocking at that door. So it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: tough one. But there's a lot of pressure on McCarthy
Speaker 1: this year to get the job done. Wants to stay here.
Speaker 1: They got two doors. It's somebody on the right three
Speaker 1: or one. It's somebody on the lift at three h two, okay,
Speaker 1: and but one of them is on the staff. He
Speaker 1: decided to stay. Hey, man, don't work out here. I
Speaker 1: see a better head coaching opportunity here, just in case
Speaker 1: the Sean Payton thing doesn't work out all right, then
Speaker 1: and then you got Sean Payton. I'm just saying, if
Speaker 1: things don't go as planning and we don't end up
Speaker 1: like you said, having a we gotta have a great season.
Speaker 1: Make a run. Ain't no run. You got to be
Speaker 1: in super Bows. I'm just no run, No, no, you need,
Speaker 1: you need We're supposed to be playing that next year,
Speaker 1: Chris Bean, ain'tbody no it is in New Orleans's okay?
Speaker 1: You you bout you know what if you're not in
Speaker 1: if you're not in Phoenix, now okay. So so so
Speaker 1: let's let's just say things. Things don't don't go good.
Speaker 1: And you know, we had the same type of stuff
Speaker 1: happening this year. Sean Payton's off limits. Can't you see
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn being elevated to head coach? Yes, that's yes,
Speaker 1: Kill won't be here. The boy's gonna go from giving
Speaker 1: up thirty five a game to giving up ten another.
Speaker 1: I gonna say I seen it before, but I've seen
Speaker 1: it before. I'm just saying we'd seven come around, man,
Speaker 1: tenant game six takeaways? No man, no, I'll steal and
Speaker 1: let's this has been an effective tool for Jerry before
Speaker 1: um Jason Garrett went into coaching his final season in
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, end up with thirteen and three number one seed,
Speaker 1: wins Coach of the Year, Dak ends up winning Rookie
Speaker 1: of the Year is Ezekiel Ellett was fantastic. So there
Speaker 1: is something to making all right, go go go, do
Speaker 1: you know, go sing for your supper? I mean, Tank
Speaker 1: Lawrence's best years, when's he on the franchise tag. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's there's nothing wrong with having, you know, putting some
Speaker 1: press sure of you what Jerry's close friends in the
Speaker 1: sporting business with the late George Steinbrenner, with the Yankees owner.
Speaker 1: He was constantly putting dudes up against it. You need
Speaker 1: to perform, you need to win. I don't think there's
Speaker 1: any at seventy nine years old, and here's my turn
Speaker 1: thirty Mamma, I'm gonna turn it up on you too.
Speaker 1: You don't have any more opportunities, and you're giving someone everything. Man,
Speaker 1: I do enough radio interviews with people, and they are
Speaker 1: Jerry's a problem. Jerry's I'm sorry. Tell me how Jerry
Speaker 1: was the problem for this organization this year? Yeh was
Speaker 1: Jerry I here committing fourteen penalties? Now he wasn't? Was
Speaker 1: Jerry I here hooking field goals to the left miss
Speaker 1: an extra points? To let know that Jerry Jones is
Speaker 1: setting the table at some point in time, you got
Speaker 1: to walk through this door and go get it done.
Speaker 1: And Mike McCarthy has been given everything you want. This
Speaker 1: was a fantastic opportunity that he had and they blew
Speaker 1: it at home. Oh, one of your best opportunities today
Speaker 1: to make it into one of those deep runs. This
Speaker 1: was this was this was one where you that's why
Speaker 1: people had that that that that hope. That was a
Speaker 1: different type of hope. It was like, hey, man, hey
Speaker 1: look here we get past sad friend, I think we're okay.
Speaker 1: We look around, we look up and pull la. I
Speaker 1: think we're okay. But when you mess around and early
Speaker 1: in the season and and trick off some games, we oh, no,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have pulled that let because you do what
Speaker 1: the Tampa. Yeah, when you when you mess up and
Speaker 1: mess off them games, and your possible number one seed
Speaker 1: then turns to the possible on the two, the possible
Speaker 1: the three, Then all of a sudden you have to
Speaker 1: worry about those type of things, like, man, who were
Speaker 1: gonna play in this round? Who're gonna playing that one?
Speaker 1: Now we should have been sitting at home waiting to
Speaker 1: figure out who he is gonna play. Yeah, at the
Speaker 1: end of day, I think it comes down to competition,
Speaker 1: And like you said, competition breeds the best. Right now, McCarthy,
Speaker 1: you got competition. You got somebody breathing over your neck.
Speaker 1: They brought in all these defensive picks, and look what
Speaker 1: happened to the defense. They shot up to another level.
Speaker 1: We need to bring that same type of energy to
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball. Get these guys some competition,
Speaker 1: and hopefully it breeds best. Because what do we see
Speaker 1: from the offense. It started out great and then just
Speaker 1: slumped down like it was nothing. But nobody was afraid
Speaker 1: to lose jobs. Nobody was afraid to have bad performance.
Speaker 1: So where's that competition you're talking about, specifically offensive line
Speaker 1: or challenging everybody? Everybody eleven pick they all got challenged
Speaker 1: and they stepped it up. So I mean, I think
Speaker 1: it's about that time for the offense to get a
Speaker 1: little bit more competition over on that side of the ball.
Speaker 1: Tom Brady retiring, you know, I don't think he sit
Speaker 1: at home enough and had the time to think about it,
Speaker 1: Like he hadn't had enough time to really really consider
Speaker 1: like what it's gonna be like for him to be like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm done. I think he's done. Who who do you
Speaker 1: think leaked it? Like who you think was like? You
Speaker 1: know what, Honestly, I think Chefter's right. But Brady didn't
Speaker 1: get to do it himself, which was jacked up. So
Speaker 1: when you just and just do the old whole overall thing,
Speaker 1: let's just go and dive in the They have cop issues.
Speaker 1: You know, you brought everybody back here, you tried for
Speaker 1: one more run, but you knew at the end of
Speaker 1: this year, Okay, there's gonna be bills a face. So
Speaker 1: they can't bring they can't bring this this thing back.
Speaker 1: They can't run this thing back again. You're gonna have
Speaker 1: to lose some people. Tom Brady's not gonna come out
Speaker 1: here to play. Let's just for a championship. They're not
Speaker 1: gonna be able to build a championship team next year now,
Speaker 1: not like they had this year. The last two years.
Speaker 1: It was always gonna be a short term deal with
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Anyway, I think this he said, Tom's gonna
Speaker 1: walk away because you can't put what he needs around him.
Speaker 1: And I want to be forty five years old out
Speaker 1: here was some some leaky parts. Um, you've done enough,
Speaker 1: You've proven yourself. Wave goodbye. He had He's gonna retire
Speaker 1: with with an MVP like season, you know, finishing top
Speaker 1: three in the MVP voting. He should u but that's
Speaker 1: gonna you know, I think that's it for him. And
Speaker 1: I think that's the that's gonna be the hardest part
Speaker 1: for him to walk away from because you know, he's
Speaker 1: such a competitor. He's an ultimate competitor out there, and
Speaker 1: when you see yourself still playing at that high of
Speaker 1: a level, I mean, he could have won an MVP
Speaker 1: this year, and he's like, man, you know, I got
Speaker 1: the skills to come back and do this. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be hard. From the walk away, He's a pass away
Speaker 1: from being in that game yesterday. He's a Matthew Stafford
Speaker 1: pass away from being in the game and possibly playing
Speaker 1: for another Super Bowl last year. And to us, like
Speaker 1: you said, he was so close. It ain't like he
Speaker 1: got blown out. It ain't like he was playing terrible,
Speaker 1: had to limp his way into the playoffs. The guy
Speaker 1: was at the top of his game. And that's and
Speaker 1: that's the way I think he leaves. Hey, you left
Speaker 1: watching me play my best. I didn't look like Larry
Speaker 1: Holmes out here at the end, some punch drunk boxings,
Speaker 1: all against the ropes and out of shape. No, you
Speaker 1: saw me looking good playing at m VP level. Ihna
Speaker 1: walk away right now, you know almost you know, like
Speaker 1: like a jay Z type. I'm gonna walk I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave you with a hit record. Dr Day,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave you with And you look at competitors back,
Speaker 1: look at ultimate competitors. MJ. He walked away at the
Speaker 1: highest the highs. I got the NBA Championship. Man, I
Speaker 1: can't lead a game. I gotta come back, but really
Speaker 1: dropping and then and then at the end, you know
Speaker 1: just everything he had to put his body through to
Speaker 1: get up and go play. And I just I think,
Speaker 1: if you're Tim, this is the this is the perfect time.
Speaker 1: But most of all, you're not gonna be able to
Speaker 1: have the kind of team you need to go play
Speaker 1: for another world championship. And at this point in his life,
Speaker 1: he's he's playing for rings. You're not playing to win
Speaker 1: a division title. So I think he's gone. The NFL
Speaker 1: is going to continue to play this game where they
Speaker 1: tell us it takes all of us and put these
Speaker 1: slogans on here. Then when it comes to hiring practices, uh,
Speaker 1: he's head coaches. They're gonna continue to, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: play this game where the most qualified is never the
Speaker 1: most qualified. So Josh McDaniels, who is qualified by the
Speaker 1: way he's qualified. He's got the qualifications as a former
Speaker 1: head coach and the multiple Super Bowl winners offensive coordin there.
Speaker 1: He'll take over the Raiders and he's going to bring
Speaker 1: uh the GM from New England. So they're gonna be
Speaker 1: a package deal out there. We hate it for our
Speaker 1: guy Rich Besichia with the Raiders who did an excellent job,
Speaker 1: but okay, here we go. So they left, which I
Speaker 1: thought he was a lock for that. Now they not
Speaker 1: only talking about what's his name, Kevin o'sthing, Kevin O'Connell,
Speaker 1: koc is what they call him. Who's the offensive play
Speaker 1: I should say, the offensive coordinator for the Rams, but
Speaker 1: he doesn't call the play. Sean McBay calls to play.
Speaker 1: And now that you see the Super Bowl is going
Speaker 1: to be Zach Taylor, Sean mcvay's old quarterback coach, against
Speaker 1: Sean McBay, the chances of Kevin O'Connell getting the Jaguars
Speaker 1: job increases. But at the same time, here's the deal
Speaker 1: from all reports left which wanted the job but didn't
Speaker 1: want to have anything to do with the general manager,
Speaker 1: Trip Balky, So he was trying to pull a thing
Speaker 1: like McDaniels, Hey, I'll come, but I need you. I
Speaker 1: need to bring it my personnel guy, my guy with me,
Speaker 1: and I guess Trent Balky was up in there. Nope,
Speaker 1: fight for me. So left, which has now been put
Speaker 1: on ice. And now Kevin O'Connell is looking like he
Speaker 1: could end up being the guy in uh in Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: So we'll see uh. And if you're left with it's
Speaker 1: a pretty interesting deal because you possibly could have had
Speaker 1: a job, but you aren't comfortable with the general manager.
Speaker 1: So you may end up back in Tampa with Blaine
Speaker 1: gabatt is your quarterback or maybe or maybe maybe Bruce
Speaker 1: Harrio says, if Tom the time is checking out, I'm
Speaker 1: checking out to gone. I was about to ask about
Speaker 1: Belichick because I'm like, what's next for the Patriots' Is
Speaker 1: Belichick done? No? Winning super bowls? Can you Belichick? And do? Oh?
Speaker 1: Belichick gott to go do? It's gonna call bell O'Brien. Hey, man,
Speaker 1: come on back. He's done it before. Is he done
Speaker 1: winning super bowls? Oh? Is he done? I know? No, No,
Speaker 1: he's done. Wait. Let's looking looking real strong, looking real
Speaker 1: strong right now? In your division too? You got job?
Speaker 1: Oh you have a quarterback who clearly understands how to
Speaker 1: play the system you want played and had a good
Speaker 1: he had a good rookie year because you lost your
Speaker 1: office of coordinators. But you're gonna bring back bell O'Brien.
Speaker 1: You'll be okay, maybe you're gonna bring it. You're you're
Speaker 1: gonna bring it. A guy who knows what to do.
Speaker 1: But but I understand your point. I under stand your point. Hey, look,
Speaker 1: if Bill Belichick don't make it back to the super Bowl,
Speaker 1: I'll be okay. A whole lot of football. We'll be okay.
Speaker 1: If it doesn't happen. We'll see what happens with the
Speaker 1: Minnesota job. Happened the Jacksonville job. Jim Jim might be back. Um,
Speaker 1: we don't see how much one that cost them, because Michigan.
Speaker 1: He left Michigan when they cost any money for or
Speaker 1: you could just leave and get out of this country. Well,
Speaker 1: Jim took a pay cut dad this last year. So no,
Speaker 1: he can just go ahead and just drop Michigan and
Speaker 1: be done with it. Jim Jim trying to get back
Speaker 1: him up. He might not know the beauty for him
Speaker 1: in terms of leaving Michigan, and about when do you go?
Speaker 1: He can leave? I left use Big ten champion, right
Speaker 1: I came, I did, I achieved a dream. I left
Speaker 1: it better than I found it. You know, you guys
Speaker 1: were wandering the desert. I brought you a Big ten
Speaker 1: championship and then boom, Now Minnesota's gonna have to throw
Speaker 1: a heck of a lot of money, you know, hack
Speaker 1: of a lot of money. And also understand Jim, Jim
Speaker 1: Harball's high maintenance man. So we'll see is the new
Speaker 1: general manager in Minnesota wanting to deal with that? Um,
Speaker 1: that's that's gonna be. That to me, that's always the
Speaker 1: thing because he's the demanding guy. There's certain guys who
Speaker 1: will you hire. You gotta understand they're very demanding or
Speaker 1: everything that comes up. Like Dean Sanders, he demands a lot.
Speaker 1: It's the perfections. He demands a lot. So are you
Speaker 1: as a general manager ready to deal with a head
Speaker 1: coach knocking on your door all the time? Hey, man,
Speaker 1: just call it? But what about this? What about that?
Speaker 1: That's what Jim is going to be. He's a challenge you.
Speaker 1: But he's good from a professional standpoint, he's good. We'll
Speaker 1: see if you're the Vikings. And also are you willing
Speaker 1: to pay that note? Because you're not. You know, you're
Speaker 1: just not about to pay him eight million. You're gonna
Speaker 1: have to go up to the teams. You got to
Speaker 1: pay that note. He's gonna want a five year deal too.
Speaker 1: Still got Kirk Cousins. Can they win with Kurt Okay? So,
Speaker 1: so we'll see what these next couple jobs what they happened. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I remember somebody saying blind Bryan Flores is
Speaker 1: gonna get a job again real quick. Starting to dwindle.
Speaker 1: Those opportunities are starting toddlek Raheem Morris, you know Raheem Morris.
Speaker 1: Uh uh, coordinated for for the Ram. They ain't gonna
Speaker 1: get nothing. De Vico Ryan's nothing, Eric being to me
Speaker 1: nothing so black black head coaches, Uh you know, black
Speaker 1: coaches trying to be hit black coaches trying to become
Speaker 1: head coach. Good luck, but that it takes all of us,
Speaker 1: and the NFL says it take it takes all of us.
Speaker 1: I told you, I hate to see it takes for
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