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Speaker 1: Late fifteen to ten Touched up.

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Speaker 2: It's day three at the NFL Scouting Combine. Welcome into

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Speaker 2: Chargers Weekly. We are presented by splittero Joy by the

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Speaker 2: Voice of the Chargers Matt Buddy Smith Money.

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Speaker 1: We've done the math. We're gonna four podcasts this week. Man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And so we talked to a lot of different

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Speaker 3: folks because you know, really not much is gonna be

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Speaker 3: happening between the time we talked to them and the

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Speaker 3: bit of a wardrobe change. Maybe good video. It's uh,

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Speaker 3: we just figured you know, our uh, our man Brian

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Speaker 3: and the two of us put our heads together and

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Speaker 3: kind of figured out how we wanted to piece each

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Speaker 3: of these pods together to make them fit, to not

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Speaker 3: get too deep into the weeds. Maybe some big picture people,

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Speaker 3: some more reporters versus draftnicks. So yeah, we're We're well

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Speaker 3: aware that I might have on my my moon doggy sweatshirt.

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Speaker 1: We're not changing it in between you tomorrow and all

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Speaker 1: that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 3: But it's been a really fun week, very educational, insightful,

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Speaker 3: and you know, I think there's cause for excitement for

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Speaker 3: available in free agency, the draft, and the people who've

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is what we wanted to do for

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Speaker 2: you guys, is get as many opinions as possible because

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Speaker 2: there are varying opinions among draft analysts and just thoughts

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Speaker 2: on the off season. So today we were going to

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Speaker 2: talk to Dane Brugler later, and you know, Dane kind

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Speaker 2: draft and knowing all these guys. Brett Coleman front of

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Speaker 2: the Chargers, who does some really good projects for the

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Speaker 2: team and around the NFL. But we're gonna start with

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Speaker 2: Dan Graziano of ESPN, and Dan does a great job

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Speaker 2: of just kind of a ten thousand foot view of the.

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Speaker 1: League and national reporter. Yeah, you know, he's great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So let's get to Dan first and then Brett

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Speaker 2: Dan Graziano ESPN. And Dan, I was just talking to

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Speaker 2: you last time I saw you the Dallas game, which

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Speaker 2: and so many highs there, and you thought the momentum

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Speaker 2: at that New England game it didn't go so great.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, you know, momentum is probably only as

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Speaker 4: good as your your your offensive tackle situation in this case,

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Speaker 4: and obviously it caught up with the Chargers as we

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, that was unfortunate.

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Speaker 4: The defense played well, but but obviously they need the

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Speaker 3: Kind of take us through what what happened to Mike

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Speaker 4: it's ninety nine million dollars in dead money. So I

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Speaker 2: It'll do different places. What do you make of the

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Speaker 4: the Hardbaugh Chargers have been excellent, right, like an eleven win, Tim, Like,

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Speaker 4: you want to go refresh those positions with with other

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Speaker 4: I think the offense is where we'll see the change,

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Speaker 4: I think the Chiefs operate to some extent with a

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Speaker 2: Last one for me, just going back to the Chargers offense,

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Speaker 1: Is there another maybe playmaker at specific positions? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Some kind of separator downfield separator that Quinton Johnston isn't

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Speaker 1: We appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Dan was incredibly patient with my tardiness and unprofessionalist.

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Speaker 1: The time. It was just you were sitting here, ready

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Speaker 4: My fus interview had been farther across the room, I

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Speaker 4: wouldn't have been you know. So that's all. It's just

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all we need. Just take your quarterback.

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Speaker 2: We spent We spent the first twelve, but it's of

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Speaker 3: Contents talk about it's crazy. It's all they want to know.

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Speaker 3: Who's going to be our center, who's going to be

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Speaker 1: What he can do. Ye you, what are the best

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Speaker 1: covering in this league? Man? Thank you so much, I

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Speaker 1: really thank you my pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Man. This edge class is nuts.

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Speaker 5: So I've talked to Reuben Bain today, a Keem Messador,

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Speaker 5: But it's just do it after, do it after, dude.

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Speaker 5: And even though technically it's not the biggest need for

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Speaker 3: latched on and I was like, I think they might

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Speaker 3: be able to get him at the fifth like top.

437
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Speaker 1: Of the fifth.

438
00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,200
Speaker 3: And then it's like Nah, probably the fourth and now

439
00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,160
Speaker 3: too many people are talking about.

440
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Speaker 1: Him after his workout because I think he's gonna have

441
00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,800
Speaker 1: a really good workout. He's so quick. There's just not

442
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Speaker 1: that many.

443
00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,280
Speaker 5: There's not many great centers to go around for how

444
00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,400
Speaker 5: many teams rely on wide zone And by the way,

445
00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,120
Speaker 5: Mike McDaniel runs a lot of wide zone and they don't.

446
00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:36,439
Speaker 1: Have a center.

447
00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,800
Speaker 2: DJ said he was high on the Kansas State Center, right,

448
00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,439
Speaker 2: hecked hacked. Yeah, their slaughter.

449
00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's actually kind of a sneaky good yeah center class.

450
00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:46,720
Speaker 5: But as far as like the fit for what the.

451
00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,159
Speaker 2: Chargers need it, we were talking about the importance of

452
00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,800
Speaker 2: just having a guy until before the draft, right, just

453
00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,119
Speaker 2: just having a center and whether he starts or not,

454
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Speaker 2: and draft a guy in the second or third round grade.

455
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Speaker 2: But outside of Linderbaum and McGovern like probably Mays from Carolina.

456
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the third guy. Yeah, it might be the

457
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,080
Speaker 1: only one left. Fortner. Could you see Fortner working? Maybe

458
00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:09,639
Speaker 1: it depends.

459
00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,320
Speaker 5: I I'm you know, he's had some medical stuff in

460
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,960
Speaker 5: the past, But then again, it feels like every center

461
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,480
Speaker 5: on the market is that medical stuff in the past.

462
00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 5: I don't think you're gonna escape that. So it just

463
00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,360
Speaker 5: really depends on where they want to spend their money.

464
00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:21,800
Speaker 5: Do they want to do it on premium positions? Do

465
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Speaker 5: they want to do it on a quote unquote non

466
00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,439
Speaker 5: premium position at center, even though for this offense, center

467
00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,320
Speaker 5: is a premium position. In my opinion, it's just I

468
00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,920
Speaker 5: feel like you can't go into the draft needing all

469
00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,440
Speaker 5: three interior spots, right, you gotta do at least one

470
00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:36,320
Speaker 5: in free agency.

471
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Speaker 1: It just depends on I feel two.

472
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Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe maybe, I mean there's some there's some guard

473
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,479
Speaker 5: value that you can get, like maybe Sean Ryan from

474
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:46,439
Speaker 5: from Green Bay.

475
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Speaker 1: You could look at him as as either a center

476
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Speaker 1: or guard. He's played both before.

477
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Speaker 5: You know, maybe they kick the tires and Alton Jenkins

478
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 5: just bringing all the Packers they're gonna wak sixty percent

479
00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,120
Speaker 5: of their offensive line anyway, right.

480
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Speaker 1: So like they have options. But boy, that eighty two

481
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 1: million in cap space goes quick.

482
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially when you've got to do O Way and

483
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 3: Khalil and Khalil and and you know, well, if they're smart,

484
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 3: they don't do all of them.

485
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:10,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

486
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Speaker 2: Well, the big name for me is O Way just

487
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 2: because of his his age and how many years you

488
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 2: can lock him in versus Khalil.

489
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 1: You want to have Khalil back.

490
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,919
Speaker 2: It may be Khalil's last year though, So if you

491
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 2: if for whatever reason, Oway goes elsewhere, then the edge

492
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 2: becomes a priority in the draft, and then you know,

493
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Speaker 2: I'm sure that the edge class your thoughts on the

494
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 2: free agency edge class right now, for.

495
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Speaker 5: What you're going I mean, Oa is probably gonna be

496
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Speaker 5: either him or Jalen. Phillips are gonna be two hight paded, and.

497
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Speaker 1: Mafe is probably gonna squeak in there a little bit.

498
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Speaker 5: Right So it's like, no matter what, you're paying twenty

499
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,639
Speaker 5: million right for just there's not enough of them to

500
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 5: go around, right. Uh So I would say, if again,

501
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,120
Speaker 5: if you're trying to be financially responsible, you pay two

502
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 5: out of the three Chargers edges, which might end up

503
00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 5: being a one year Khalil and a big tu Ley extension,

504
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 5: and then you rely on the fact that this is

505
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 5: a deep edge class. You know, you can get a

506
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 5: guy that can play at twenty two, and you use

507
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 5: the money that you would have spent on Oway to

508
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,159
Speaker 5: then go cobble together an interior offensive line. There's a

509
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,360
Speaker 5: way to do it. I have no idea what they're

510
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 5: going to do. But luckily they have the resources that

511
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 5: they can put together a plant.

512
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think very quietly I was impressed with

513
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 3: Caldwell last year. You know, love to your tart, you know,

514
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,680
Speaker 3: but you know they've done it right. They did it

515
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,119
Speaker 3: with Poona, they did it with the Sean hand like,

516
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 3: it feels like they can still do that. But man,

517
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,479
Speaker 3: if you think about adding a little bit of juice

518
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 3: to the interior of that line, especially if you can

519
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,400
Speaker 3: bring Oway and Khaleel back, Yeah, Like to me, that's like, man,

520
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 3: you want to talk about cooking with gas if you

521
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,879
Speaker 3: can kind of get that upfield pass rushing type of

522
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 3: interior alignment. If it's if you do bring all three back, yeah,

523
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 3: which truly obviously is coming back, but if you do

524
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 3: have Mac and Oway coming back, that's where I start

525
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 3: to get kind of excited about what that could look like.

526
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,199
Speaker 1: Well, and you look at the four last teams in

527
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 1: the NFL this year, right there's the Patriots, with the Broncos, Seahawks,

528
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 1: and the Rams.

529
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 5: All of them were like the top four defensive tackle duos.

530
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 5: As far as pass rushing the entire NFL, it matters

531
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 5: a lot if you look at the dynasty that came

532
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 5: before this year with Kansas City going to how many

533
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,199
Speaker 5: Super Bowls in five years? They had Chris Jones? All right,

534
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 5: Aaron Donald won the rams A Ring a few years ago. Like,

535
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 5: it's really hard to win a Super Bowl without elite

536
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 5: defensive tackle play. Now, not to say that Chargers don't

537
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,959
Speaker 5: have good defensive tackle play, but it sure helps to

538
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 5: have that kind of like certified like all pro kind

539
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 5: of guy on the inside. What did you make a

540
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 5: Jamari this year in the JOD I like him a lot,

541
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 5: but again, he's a different kind of player than say,

542
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,199
Speaker 5: Milton Williams, Chris Jones, even Byron Murphy, even though he

543
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 5: plays a lot of two I Byron he could rush

544
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,400
Speaker 5: the passer right, and Jamari I think is very very

545
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 5: good in his role, but it's a different kind of role.

546
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 5: I think he's incredibly valuable because he's the kind of

547
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 5: guy that gets the charges to third and seven in

548
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 5: the first place. So he adds pass rush value by

549
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 5: extending third down distances where conversion rates fall off a cliff.

550
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 5: But as far as like actually getting the quarterback on

551
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 5: the ground, that's not his forte. So he's a big

552
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 5: piece of the puzzle, but they do need complimentary pieces.

553
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

554
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,880
Speaker 3: The one that we have not talked about yet, Chris,

555
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,719
Speaker 3: really is safety. And I think it's because you have Derwin,

556
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,199
Speaker 3: you have Elijah, they're locked up long term. Mickens flashed

557
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 3: a little bit when he played just what's the safety.

558
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 3: I know there's some real obviously there's an incredible safety

559
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 3: at the top who could end up going top five,

560
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 3: but just kind of the depth of the safety position,

561
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 3: and that's sort of what they've been doing, right, It's

562
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 3: that fifth round sort of you know, just what they

563
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 3: might be able to find out there in that group.

564
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Speaker 5: And I think, you know, these days, especially with how

565
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 5: much Nicol has played Nickel and dimes specifically, when you

566
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 5: have a guy like Derwin, I don't really consider him

567
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 5: part of the safety room. I consider him the nickel.

568
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 5: So there's still two safeties that are gonna be on

569
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 5: the field other than dirtwy Right, you can call it

570
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 5: a three safety defense. It's really just a nickel defense.

571
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 5: And Derwin's your superpower, right, So I still think they

572
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 5: could add one there. The one that I have my

573
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 5: eye on is McNeil Warren from Toledo. Great Fitsnical High right.

574
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: Because he is of safety.

575
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 5: It's possible he slips to twenty two, but I imagine

576
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 5: he might be a lot of teams kind of you know,

577
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 5: break class in case of emergency.

578
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 1: Like let's just take a good football player.

579
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 5: Right, But he's big, he's rangey, takes great angles and coverage,

580
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 5: competitive at the catch point, you know, good against the run,

581
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 5: like he's he's your all around safety that you you

582
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 5: pair with Derwin and those guys and hand in glove

583
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 5: fit right corner. You know, Dante Jackson comes in and

584
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 5: really I think upgrades the position. He was really really

585
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 5: good last year. You have Tar Heeve, you have Cam.

586
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 5: You can never have enough corners. This cornerback class seems

587
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 5: to be fairly deep. I mean, yeah, maybe in the

588
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 5: first couple of rounds.

589
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 2: I mean at twenty two or even in the second round,

590
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 2: are there guys that you think fit what Chris O'Leary

591
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 2: may want to do and just to kind of add

592
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 2: to that room.

593
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 5: I think their investment at corner, or rather how high

594
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 5: they invest at corner is basically gonna tell you what

595
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 5: their free agency approach is gonna be, right, because after

596
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 5: this coming season, their young dbs are eligible for extensions,

597
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 5: and the corner market.

598
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 1: Has jumped rapidly the last couple of years.

599
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 5: All of a sudden, the top of the market's gonna be,

600
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Speaker 5: especially after Gonzo signs in the mid thirties. So if

601
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 5: that's what the corner market is, you know, like I

602
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 5: look at Seattle, their free agency priorities not bringing back

603
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 5: all their corners. They're gonna pay one. They're gonna pay Spoon,

604
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 5: But I bet Wollan hits the market. I bet Joeby

605
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 5: hits the market. So you're really only gonna pay one corner.

606
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 5: And the chargers maybe have two years left with their group,

607
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 5: maybe more likely one with this group because once once

608
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 5: you hit the third year, all of a sudden, if

609
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,959
Speaker 5: they become trade bait, right, somebody else go pay them.

610
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 5: They're very good players. Let's get capital back. So if

611
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 5: you're trying to future proof that, okay, you can invest

612
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 5: high end corner because we don't want to have to

613
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 5: pay all of our young dbs that are coming to

614
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 5: do at the same time. So if they invested, if

615
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 5: they invested in early, I think that tells you what

616
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 5: they're gonna do in free agency. But like in a vacuum, yeah,

617
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 5: you want to keep all these guys together.

618
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: Because they're good players. You think Kansas City trades McDuffie.

619
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: I think if they were gonna pay him a lot,

620
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: they already would have, right. Seems weird, right.

621
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 5: I think I think they see him as an inside player,

622
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 5: which inherently they just get paid less. I'm not saying

623
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 5: they should be paid less, it's just the reality situation.

624
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 5: Nichols get paid less. I think they see him as

625
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 5: a nickel. They don't see him as a premiere outside corner.

626
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 5: And I think he wants Stingley Gonzo money and they're like,

627
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 5: we don't.

628
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: We can't give that to you.

629
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, especially looking at their cap situation, they can't do it, right,

630
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 5: So I yeah, I think he's gonna get traded.

631
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's wild. He's so good, he's very good. Yeah.

632
00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 5: But also the chiefs you suffering from success. They don't

633
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 5: have space to pay a nickel thirty million.

634
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 1: Dollars a year. They can't do it.

635
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 3: It's well like to me, and not that this is

636
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 3: where we need to take this conversation, but it's it's

637
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 3: wildly overlooked that, you know, and they should have been

638
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 3: celebrated for all those defensive picks they made that ended

639
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 3: up being starters. But I don't know how many of

640
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 3: them are going to get extensions. Like, I just don't

641
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 3: think they ended up being as good as we initially

642
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 3: thought they were going to be. And I could just

643
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 3: kind of see them all walking to some degree.

644
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 5: I think for a moment in time it all worked. Yeah,

645
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 5: and then you know, and you could say, it's okay,

646
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 5: they never addressed edge properly, or they missed on picks

647
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 5: or you know, Karl Loftus didn't turn into what they

648
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 5: thought I would.

649
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: Right. It feels like.

650
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 5: There was a two season period where everything was clicking

651
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 5: and everything was going well. But part of me wonders

652
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 5: if everything was clicking and going well because of the transcendence.

653
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Speaker 1: Of Chris Johones. Yeah right, yeah, And.

654
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Speaker 5: As soon as there's even a little bit slivage there

655
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 5: with Chris, it certainly felt like the defense kind of

656
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 5: lost its team. And they don't have another one. No,

657
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 5: nobody does, but like they don't. They don't have another

658
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 5: Chris Jones in the pipeline. That's why it's like if

659
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 5: ruben Vane, if ruben Vain falls.

660
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: To night, that would be insanity. He has to be

661
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: the pick. They don't have anybody like the fact that

662
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: your defensive tackle has been your best edge rusher. I

663
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: know for five years. That's inexcusable.

664
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Speaker 5: And so if they get an opportunity, you know, picking

665
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 5: top ten for the first time in a long time,

666
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 5: I take an opportunity to get a real edge. Okay,

667
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 5: now maybe they can rebound a little bit, but absent that,

668
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 5: Kansas City doesn't have a lot of answers right now.

669
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,959
Speaker 2: Right but you have a great pulse of this roster

670
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 2: on defensive at the linebacker position.

671
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: You know, dayon came on strong.

672
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 2: We've been talking a lot about Marlo Wax and what

673
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 2: he did in Week eighteen, Troy Dies under contract, Junior

674
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 2: Colson didn't even play this year.

675
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Speaker 1: What do you make in that room right now?

676
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Speaker 2: And could you see them adding to it with a

677
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 2: linebacker in this draft class?

678
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,959
Speaker 5: It's a deep class. I could see them doing an

679
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,719
Speaker 5: investment on Day three. I think they have much bigger

680
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 5: fish to fry, and so I think they like where

681
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 5: the room is at. Not to mention, I think it's

682
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 5: not that linebacker isn't a premium position, but with teams

683
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 5: that are very zone coverage heavy, where it's like, let's

684
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 5: just find a guy that could be a hook dropper

685
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 5: and we can get by. Like, we can't get by

686
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 5: without a pass rusher, we can't get by without a

687
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 5: really good outside corner. We can't get by without an

688
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 5: amazing hybrid nickel superstar.

689
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: We can get by with a less than top five

690
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Speaker 1: linebacker on the inside.

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Speaker 3: Last one for me, and I'm not gonna I felt

692
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 3: like I've led people to where I want them to

693
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 3: go on this, so I won't lead you.

694
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Speaker 1: Tight End's in need. I mean, there's just no two

695
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: ways about it. After a ronde, right, I mean you've.

696
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 3: Got ironde and outside of that, Disley's not going to

697
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 3: come back. Not based on the usage from last year.

698
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 3: I would like to see Tucker fist back. I think

699
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 3: it could fit. Is kind of that full back sort

700
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 3: of attached tight end, but I don't know if that's

701
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 3: going to work, So I think they need a tight end.

702
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 3: It's like when I started going through it and started watching,

703
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 3: I was like, it's kind of a sneaky cool tight

704
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:08,719
Speaker 3: end group. You know Sidik Obviously at twenty two, DJ's

705
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 3: got a mocked there. But if I just take that

706
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 3: off the board kind of which which tight end sort

707
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 3: of jumps out at you. That could be a fit.

708
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: He's a different type. But Eli Stower's from Vandy.

709
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 5: Again, it would be a day two so we have

710
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 5: to have the conversation about is it worth more than

711
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,959
Speaker 5: building the interior offensive line? And we got to get

712
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 5: through free agency. But like in a vacuum, you take

713
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 5: Stowers in round two.

714
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 3: Super athlete. He was on the freak list. He was

715
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 3: on the freak list.

716
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, but him and Ironde together, like that's probably the

717
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 5: most athletic tight end duo in the league, right, Like

718
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 5: you have two monsters that can be like they could

719
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 5: both play outside receiver, right right. And you know Aronde,

720
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 5: he really surprised me because, like somebody for his frame,

721
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 5: you don't expect to be like a dog when it

722
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 5: comes to blocking.

723
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 2: But I saw it even a training camp. I was like,

724
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 2: he's digging people out here. Like I got better throughout

725
00:31:59,080 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 2: the season.

726
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 5: He could He might actually be like a why tight

727
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 5: end for them, a smaller Why than what you typically see,

728
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 5: but I think he might actually do that. Star Wars

729
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 5: is more of like your your move tight end. You're

730
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 5: He's not Kyle Yuschak as a blocker, but like you

731
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 5: know how Kyle Uchik just kind of moves all over

732
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 5: the place. So it's like you put them together as

733
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 5: your twelve personnel grouping plus all the receivers they got, like,

734
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 5: you're not going to be hurting for weapons.

735
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,239
Speaker 1: So I I could see it. But if I tell

736
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: you a third or fourth round, now where you're going? Oh?

737
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: Max Claire? Max Claire is a good one on the

738
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: state right, what if we stay in the big ten?

739
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 6: Who?

740
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: Now you're leading?

741
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: Now?

742
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: I'm who are you thinking? Like Merlin Klein? Man?

743
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 3: Oh see, I haven't got to him yet, Okay, so

744
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 3: that would be why Marlin Klein, Yeah, the kid from Michigan.

745
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 3: He's big. I couldn't believe how big he was. Claire's

746
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 3: interesting though. That produe tape is pretty cool.

747
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: Man.

748
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 5: They just they throw him like shallow crosses and they're like,

749
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 5: just go leg it out man, Yeah, like you're just fast,

750
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 5: just go out go beat people.

751
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: And he does. Yeah. Red Mine is a good one.

752
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: What uh what projects are you cooking up from now

753
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: till we level Ooh? Man?

754
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 5: So I I mean this is gonna hurt for Chargers

755
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 5: fans to hear. I went out to Kansas City. Now,

756
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 5: keep in mind, this was the week.

757
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: They lost to Houston, so I got to watch the

758
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: Dynasty fall. It was great.

759
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 5: But I recorded at the stadium a video on the

760
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 5: thirteen seconds game and just the absolute insane.

761
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: That is insanity.

762
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 5: So that's coming out soon. I still have all of

763
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 5: that Ladanian two thousand and six tape. I'm trying to

764
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 5: find something to do with it. So I think this

765
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 5: summer I'm gonna I'm gonna do a retrospective on six Ladanian.

766
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: Hell maybe if I can, I can get Ladanian involved

767
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: with it. That'd be pretty cool too. It's also my

768
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,479
Speaker 1: excuse to talk about Lorenzo Neil a little bit. So

769
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Speaker 1: love Low, sir friend.

770
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Speaker 5: Working on those and then you know, we get into

771
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 5: the summer series where we do an hour to an

772
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 5: hour and a half on every single team. You know

773
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 5: holes that they've plugged, schematic changes, coaching changes. So it's

774
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 5: the offseason, weirdly, can sometimes be busier than the actual season.

775
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: No doubt. We got to get Loan to the whole

776
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame jacket.

777
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 5: If there was ever a fullback that was going to

778
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 5: be Hall of famers, Low gotta be Himah, that's Loow

779
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 5: like resume wise.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know even use check. I don't think

781
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Speaker 1: has the no.

782
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Speaker 3: I mean, I guess moose you know is one you

783
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 3: know with with how well those Cowboys teams play. But

784
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 3: like to me, it's just the fact that everywhere he went, man,

785
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 3: it's just hey, here you go, all.

786
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: Stop, every back, every back, everyone.

787
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Speaker 3: I'll pave the way. It's uh yeah to me, that's

788
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 3: one of the It's a position. It was an important

789
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 3: position back then. You know, there's no statistics attached to it,

790
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 3: but there's statistics that are.

791
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 5: The statistics is Ladanians take exactly six, there's auxiliary statistics

792
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 5: that are attached to right.

793
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Speaker 1: Put that down as a side project, A thirty minute.

794
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Speaker 1: Why exactly appreciate your brother? Of course thanks.

795
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Speaker 2: right money. Another one of our favorites, Stain Brugler, author

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Speaker 2: of The Beast.

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Speaker 6: How you doing, brother, I'm good. It's a fun week.

809
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 6: It's a busy week, but it's a fun week. It's

810
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 6: it's it's context week. I feel like there's all the

811
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 6: Hayes in the barn. Right, We've seen the tape. We

812
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 6: know what these guys are about. But this is where

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Speaker 6: we fill in the last five percent seven percent of

814
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Speaker 6: each evaluation to whether it's verified measurements or some of

815
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 6: the athletic testing, just the information we get from the interviews,

816
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 6: the medicals. So it's a very courtant week of the

817
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 6: entire process.

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Speaker 1: How many players in the Beast.

819
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 6: There will be, I don't know, over two thousand probably okay,

820
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 6: reports for over four hundred and then, but there'll be

821
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 6: at least over two thousand, and there guys that are

822
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 6: in NFL databases with verified testing information. You know, I

823
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 6: want to give those guys some love to Okay.

824
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 2: The percentage of it done? Now is it? Is it

825
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 2: like ninety percent done? And this is like the flesh

826
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 2: I wish. I mean a lot of it's like done.

827
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Speaker 6: It's just okay, I've got to convert all these notes

828
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 6: into a cohesive scotting report that's digestible, so, you know,

829
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Speaker 6: and that's helpful here when I'm able to talk to

830
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 6: some of these guys I've talked. Probably I don't know

831
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 6: eighty percent of these guys, but it's the last twenty

832
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 6: percent that I haven't had a chance to talk to

833
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 6: and find out more about.

834
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Speaker 7: You know.

835
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Speaker 6: A good example is Avian Harris, defensive tackle from Old

836
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 6: miss who is a big boy, six seven, three hundred

837
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Speaker 6: and thirty pounds. I asked him, when did the growth

838
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 6: spurt happen for him?

839
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: In grade?

840
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 7: He was five to eight.

841
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 6: He showed up for freshman football at six', six so

842
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 6: almost a foot between eighth grade.

843
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 7: Hurts, yeah. Exactly his knees were killing.

844
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Speaker 6: Him, so you, know just interesting things like that THAT

845
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 6: i think is context for BECAUSE i love that everyone's.

846
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 6: Here all these players are on the doorstep to THE.

847
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 6: Nfl but they all got here in different, ways you.

848
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 6: Know the paths are so, different and so that context

849
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 6: is really important TO i think understand where they're.

850
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 3: Headed you need to know where they came. From SO

851
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 3: i set that as the foundation of our. Conversation so

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00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 3: we can just start peppering you with some some, questions

853
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 3: because you know we're this is Our we've talked to

854
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 3: quite a few, people but you, know when you're doing

855
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 3: two thousand players and four hundred, reports it's easy for

856
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 3: us to just kind of throw you a few. Things

857
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 3: so let's start with tight. End and because you, know

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00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 3: some people think that he could be there at twenty.

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00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 3: Two it would be a little bit of a luxury

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00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 3: pick considering The chargers' needs on offensive line and maybe defensive.

861
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 3: Line but take us through the tight end class and

862
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 3: maybe if they want to wait till the third, run

863
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 3: if they want to wait till the fourth round or,

864
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 3: something what this class looks. Like because they only have

865
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Speaker 3: one on the roster right, now It's Aronde, gatson their

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Speaker 3: fifth round pick from last.

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Speaker 6: YEAR i think That gadson's a certain type of tight,

868
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Speaker 6: end right you, know you want him getting the targets

869
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Speaker 6: more than anything. Else so BUT i do think that

870
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 6: there is depth in this, draft third, round fourth, round

871
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 6: fifth round where if you're looking for a more of

872
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 6: A wy tight end that there's going to. Be you,

873
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 6: Know Will kackmeric From Ohio, STATE i, think is a

874
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 6: perfect example where when he was, targeted he caught the.

875
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 6: Ball he didn't have a single drop At Ohio state

876
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 6: and it's two years, there but his value for that

877
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 6: team was as a blocker and both pass protection or

878
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 6: in line as a run. Blocker he's that you, know

879
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 6: you think About Jackson hawes and what he meant For

880
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 6: buffalo last year being a fifth round. Pick Will Kick

881
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 6: american be that type of. Guy nate Bore kicker From

882
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 6: TEXAS a AND m another One nebraska transfer went TO

883
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 6: a AND m and really really blossom this year where

884
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 6: if you wanted to arget, him he'll catch the, ball

885
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 6: but his value will be as a more of A

886
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 6: y tight. End and that's if you can really find

887
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 6: the guys that are well. Rounded that's such a luxury

888
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 6: because you, know the game's all about what, mismatches, right

889
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 6: and so having a guy on the field where, yeah

890
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 6: you know he might be blocking or he might go

891
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 6: out for a route, this you, know just the defense

892
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 6: has to keep guessing as opposed to the guys that

893
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 6: are more. Specialized there's definitely value in that.

894
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 2: Dat center hot topic among fans here with The, chargers

895
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: and we haven't talked About connor low is would he

896
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 2: be a first or second round pick had the injury

897
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 2: that occurred last? Year, like where where do you see

898
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 2: him in the?

899
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 6: Draft, yeah he had THE, acl which obviously complicates. THINGS

900
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 6: i don't think he would have been like a top fifty.

901
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 6: PICK i don't think the tape supports, that BUT i

902
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 6: do think maybe somewhere in that fifty one to one

903
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 6: hundred range is it was a potential outcome for. Him but, then,

904
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 6: yeah you throw in THE acl and it just Complicates

905
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 6: it doesn't mean he's gonna automatically, fall but you have

906
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 6: to do a little more work to figure, out you,

907
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 6: know the health of the knee and all that kind of.

908
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 6: Stuff so we've seen guys WITH acl injuries get drafted

909
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 6: just where they were expected to and but sometimes they

910
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 6: fall a little. Bit but, yeah this is a center

911
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 6: class WHERE i don't expect any probably to go in

912
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 6: the top. Fifty but then you, know once we get

913
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 6: to the third, round fourth round there we should see

914
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 6: quite a few come off the, board Whether jake's slaughter From,

915
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 6: florida you, Know Brian parker From. DUKE i think is really.

916
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 6: Interesting he was a right, tackle ALTHOUGH i don't know

917
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 6: he's he's Dating Tony piselli's, daughter so he might he

918
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 6: might not get out of the third of The.

919
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 7: Jaguars that might be his.

920
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 3: FLOOR i want to take their. KID i want to

921
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 3: fast forward twenty five years when their sons coming.

922
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: Out that's WHAT i want to.

923
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 7: Do she grew up with an offensive line, dad so

924
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 7: she knew what to look. FOR i. Guess, yeah it's

925
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 7: funny how that. Works but, yeah.

926
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 6: Center, class it's. Not it's not gonna blow you away

927
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 6: with early round. Guys but there's some starters in this.

928
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 3: Group for, sure if you were to pair like great

929
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 3: value for the round with great, play because we SEE

930
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,479
Speaker 3: i mean there's centers that come out of the fourth,

931
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 3: round there are starters almost. Immediately so it feels like

932
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 3: one of those positions where you can pluck a starter

933
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 3: on the you, know early portion of day, three like

934
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 3: what looks, like, oh, yeah you know this guy with

935
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 3: The mike McDaniel system in place enough for the, chargers

936
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 3: like this is a guy that they could pick here

937
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 3: that would be good value and has a chance to

938
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 3: compete to.

939
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 6: Start, YEAH i Mean Sam heckt From Kansas. STATE i

940
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 6: think if you get him in the fourth, round and

941
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 6: maybe you have to take them in the. Third it's

942
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 6: always it's tricky with centers because not everyone needs, them

943
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 6: and then once you get to that point in the,

944
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 6: draft teams aren't gonna be you, know yeah we have

945
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 6: a fourth round great on, them but we'll gladly take

946
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 6: him in the third because that's just how the board's.

947
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 6: Falling so it can be difficult to kind of figure

948
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 6: that part. Out BUT i think that would be good

949
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 6: value for The. CHARGERS i think he would fit what

950
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 6: they kind of are or what they want to be

951
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 6: because he does Have he's not like the most athletic,

952
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 6: center but he's athletic. Enough AND i think he's not

953
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 6: the most powerful, center but he's powerful. Enough really, smart

954
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 6: really soft spoken type of. Guy but he AND i

955
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 6: was kind of worried about that first TIME i ever

956
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 6: talked to. Him but then you kind of talk to

957
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 6: his coaches and talk to some of his teammates and you,

958
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 6: know no issues with communication anything like. That So sam

959
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 6: Hecked Kandas state would be one of those. GUYS i

960
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 6: think it makes sense.

961
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: A wane From Penn state.

962
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 2: Does does his body type and his traits match what

963
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 2: A mike McDaniel offense looks.

964
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: Like he's a big.

965
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 7: Dude he is a big dude and he's a powerful.

966
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: Dude.

967
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 6: YEAH i MEAN I i think he's talented enough where

968
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 6: if he doesn't fit your, SCHEME i think the scheme,

969
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 6: issue you, know LIKE i think because he's he's no

970
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 6: slug out. There you know the way he moves that

971
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 6: he is, big he will look to punish. You and

972
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 6: you think About, okay like last year with The, dolphins

973
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 6: Uh jonasovanaya who they drafted in THE i get traded

974
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 6: up for him the second round out Of. Arizona you,

975
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 6: know like that that type of body, type you, know

976
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 6: a bigger guy who can win with, power but you,

977
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 6: know can move around little bit. TOO i think you

978
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 6: wanna he fits that you want it to? Me IS

979
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 6: i don't one of the fifteen best players in this.

980
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 6: DRAFT i think the theme of this draft is just

981
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 6: draft good football. Players you, know we we're gonna get

982
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 6: caught up so much in upside and chasing the traits

983
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 6: And i'm all about trades over. Production that's a scouting.

984
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 6: Motto but in this, draft when you're talking about A Caleb,

985
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 6: downs A yo wanna an off ball linebacker Like Sonny,

986
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 6: styles a running back Like Jeremiah. Love these are the

987
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 6: best players that this draft has to, offer and so

988
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 6: it'll be interesting to see how quickly they come off the.

989
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 1: Board, yeah how many first drug grades do you? Have?

990
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 6: Fourteen, okay not. Many usually we're. Eighteen maybe a good

991
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 6: year we get to. Twenty so then then what's that

992
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 6: what's that grouping fifteen to? What where you feel like

993
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 6: the grades are pretty? Similar, yeah it's it's pretty. EXTENSIVE i,

994
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 6: MEAN i, yeah there's there's a, lot you, know the

995
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 6: seventeenth player not all that different than who you're drafted

996
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 6: in the, forties, probably, Right and that's why it's so

997
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 6: hard to a lot of teams are you, know looking

998
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 6: to move. Around but it could be difficult when teams

999
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 6: just don't have a lot of first round grades this,

1000
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 6: year and so a lot of those teams picking in

1001
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 6: the top ten will have some tough decisions to make About, yeah,

1002
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 6: like you, know we don't really value drafting a safety this,

1003
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 6: early but think about What Caleb downs can bring to

1004
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 6: the back end of our, team the communication, aspect the character,

1005
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 6: aspect the way he can set the, culture and how

1006
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 6: smart he. Is it just you don't find guys like

1007
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 6: that very, often but it will take a premium pick

1008
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 6: to get.

1009
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 1: Him.

1010
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 2: Yeah you, know we look at some of the guys

1011
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 2: that The chargers drafted last, year and you, Know Marion

1012
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 2: hampton when he was, healthy he was. Awesome what was

1013
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 2: your evaluation of him coming out in terms of THE

1014
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 2: i don't know if he was the second or third

1015
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 2: back on your, board but like what he could look

1016
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 2: like With mike McDaniel as you.

1017
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 6: See, WELL i think the THING i love most about

1018
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 6: him coming out was he had that great year With

1019
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 6: Drake may and then obviously Loses Drake may the passing.

1020
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 6: Game you, know it was terrible his final At North,

1021
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 6: carolina but his production was the. Same he didn't miss

1022
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 6: a beat and so independent of everything else going on around,

1023
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 6: him he was still the same, guy still the same,

1024
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 6: PRODUCER a guy that has, quickness has, power has, speed

1025
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 6: kind of the total. Package liked what he did in

1026
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 6: past pro so, YEAH i MEAN i think that, again

1027
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 6: he's another one of these players where if he doesn't

1028
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 6: fit your. SCHEME i think you need to fix your

1029
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 6: scheme a little, bit tweak it to make sure you're

1030
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 6: getting the most out of a player like, this because

1031
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 6: obviously the resources that you use to draft, him you,

1032
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 6: know you don't you just don't want to lose. That

1033
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 6: but he's a really good player who unfortunately the injury

1034
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 6: last year kind of took some of that away what

1035
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 6: we could have seen from. Him but, YEAH i think

1036
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 6: it's fair to expect some big things here coming up

1037
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 6: in your.

1038
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 3: Two just kind on that same sort of, Theme, dane

1039
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 3: you Have Keandrey Lambert, smith who had a heck of a,

1040
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 3: preseason had a big catch Against Kansas city when he

1041
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 3: was pressed into. Duty just kind of what your evaluation

1042
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 3: was of, him and if The chargers are looking to

1043
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 3: maybe do something similar like a fifth, round or if

1044
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 3: they want to maybe just take a swing at another

1045
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 3: speed guy that they could help open things up WITH

1046
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 3: q And Trey harris and sort of the way that

1047
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,439
Speaker 3: we Think mike McDaniel's going to Use lad.

1048
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 6: McConkey, Yeah lamberts meant that he was kind of my

1049
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 6: answer to your second question last, year you, know like

1050
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 6: WHEN i was, asked, like you, know who's someone On day.

1051
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 7: THREE i had a fourth round grade on.

1052
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 6: HIM i liked it At Penn state and he transferred To,

1053
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 6: auburn had a really good final year.

1054
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 7: There deep.

1055
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 6: THREAT i, mean he can get vertical and you know

1056
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 6: that one touchdown he Had South carolina where just the.

1057
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 7: Ball skills really stood.

1058
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 6: Out and SO i think, that you, know going where he,

1059
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 6: did there's certain, expectations But i'd be surprised if when,

1060
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 6: we you, know a couple of years from, now we're

1061
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 6: not talking about him as someone that you, know outplayed

1062
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 6: where his draft position. WAS i think he's a better

1063
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 6: player than.

1064
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: That this.

1065
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 7: Year Malik benson From oregon is really interesting juco kid

1066
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 7: who went To.

1067
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 6: Alabama then When saban, retied he went To Florida state

1068
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 6: and last year was a disaster For Florida. State so

1069
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 6: he goes To oregon and you, KNOW i had a

1070
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 6: pretty productive year to eight hundred receiving. Yards the punt

1071
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 6: return AGAINST usc for a, TOUCHDOWN i, thin that's where

1072
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 6: you really see that, speed and that's WHERE i, think you,

1073
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 6: know that speed is what's going to help him this

1074
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 6: week and maybe help, him you, know just because whatever

1075
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 6: the forty, is you're not going to automatically bump a guy,

1076
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 6: Up but if he's stuck in a stack with like

1077
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 6: six seven other, receivers that's something that could maybe inch

1078
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 6: him up over a few other. Guys Kendrick law From

1079
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 6: kentucky would be another. One, he's oh my, gosh physically

1080
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 6: just really impressive the way he's, built but then also

1081
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 6: the way he. Moves but Another alabama transfer who couldn't

1082
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 6: figure it out with The Crimson tide goes To kentucky

1083
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 6: and he was.

1084
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 7: More of a screen.

1085
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 6: Merchant you, know a lot of, slants a lot of

1086
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 6: catch and, go which gave him a chance to showcase

1087
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 6: what he can do with the ball in his, hands

1088
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 6: but still leave some money into questions about tracking the

1089
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 6: ball downfield and your full route tree just doesn't have

1090
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 6: that on film that you can point, to so, questions

1091
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 6: those questions are why he's gonna go in the, fourth fifth.

1092
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 6: Round But i'm expecting big things from both those guys

1093
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 6: here this.

1094
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 2: Week, yeah this edge group is so interesting because you,

1095
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 2: know you mentioned you probably have a first round grade

1096
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: on a few, guys and then there's a bunch of

1097
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 2: guys that feel like they're boom or.

1098
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: Bust there's older. Guys there's a lot younger.

1099
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 2: Guys what do you make of that second tier of

1100
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 2: edge that may kind of be in that range with

1101
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 2: the chargers of.

1102
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 6: Selecting, YEAH i think that edge is one of the

1103
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 6: deeper positions this year at sixteen in my top one,

1104
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,959
Speaker 6: hundred which is and there were a few THAT i

1105
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 6: felt bad leaving, off LIKE i just wanted to get

1106
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 6: them in there AND i couldn't find. Spots but, yeah

1107
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 6: with where late late first round we're talking ABOUT. Tj

1108
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 6: parker From clemson Or Zion young From, missouri guys that

1109
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 6: you can see like they're very specific maybe in the

1110
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 6: ways they, win but you have to sacrifice a little

1111
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 6: bit of something With, zion you, know he's a guy

1112
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 6: that wants to go through. You you, know you're not

1113
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 6: gonna get a lot of bend and edge. Speed he's

1114
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 6: want to go through, you maybe throwing an inside, move

1115
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,919
Speaker 6: but he'll set an. Edge you, know he uses those long,

1116
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 6: arms he'll rip the ball. Out so you, KNOW i

1117
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 6: think you have to be okay with what his strengths

1118
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 6: are and does it fit what you want to be on?

1119
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 7: DEFENSE. Tj, parker the motor doesn't.

1120
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 6: Stop you, know he's another guy that wants to use

1121
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 6: that extension and then work off of, that and that's you,

1122
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 6: know you can win with guys like. That you just

1123
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 6: have to be okay with the way he wins and

1124
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 6: make sure it fits what you want to.

1125
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 3: Be is there a, well there are No Chris, jones you,

1126
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 3: know there are No Chris. Joneses but is there that

1127
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 3: is there that type of like big thick upfield pass

1128
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 3: rushing d tackle that could be there at twenty?

1129
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 6: Two Caleb banks is the guy that if we look

1130
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 6: back three years from now and you tell me he's

1131
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 6: the closest thing To Chris jones in this, Draft i'd be, like,

1132
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 6: yeah that makes sense because the trait says he six

1133
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 6: six three thirty five thirty five inch, arms eleven inch.

1134
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 6: Hands he benefits from the planet. Theory there's only so

1135
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 6: many people on this planet that are that size.

1136
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 1: That move like.

1137
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 7: That he missed most of this year with the foot.

1138
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 6: Injury he injured it in spring and then tried to

1139
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 6: work his way, back got hurt in the fall camp

1140
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 6: and so he was on the shelf and HE i

1141
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 6: just talked to him this past week and did a

1142
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 6: little story on him because he's just trying to make

1143
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 6: up for lost. Time he couldn't do anything about the.

1144
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 6: Injury but even Though florida had a disaster, season he

1145
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 6: came back for the final two. Games when everyone else

1146
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 6: told him to shut it, down get ready for The,

1147
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 6: combine things like, that he wanted to go out there

1148
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 6: and compete because he was finally. Healthy and that's why

1149
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 6: you went to The Senior bowl and you saw It Seniera.

1150
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 6: Bowl he got better every single good day of Practice, Tuesday, Wednesday.

1151
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 6: Thursday his best day of practice was On. Thursday so

1152
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 6: he's still a guy that's learning and getting. Better so

1153
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 6: there's definitely risk, involved especially when you're talking about a

1154
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 6: three hundred and thirty five pound a guy who had

1155
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 6: a foot. Issue you, know that's always something that is

1156
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 6: a little. Worrisome but if you're gonna make a bet

1157
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 6: on traits and you're looking for that interior, disruptor that's

1158
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 6: the guy that immediately comes to.

1159
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: Mind.

1160
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 2: DAN i know you're looking at everybody this, weekend but

1161
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 2: there are there a few guys in particular that you're

1162
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 2: really excited to.

1163
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 6: See oh, YEAH i Mean Brendon. Thompson can he break

1164
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 6: the forty record wide receiver For?

1165
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 7: Misissippi. State and he's not just a speed.

1166
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 6: Guy he's he had over a thousand yards receiving this

1167
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 6: year and no offense but To Mississippi. State but if

1168
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 6: they had a better, quarterback he might have had two thousand.

1169
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 6: Yards he's he's a fun. Player he can win. Vertically

1170
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 6: he can be a catch and go. Guy small that you,

1171
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 6: know you're talking about five, nine one, seventy but you

1172
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 6: know he can be a weapon for. Somebody and if

1173
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 6: he it'd be a disappointment if he doesn't run on

1174
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 6: the four. Twoes So i'm expecting big things from. Him but,

1175
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 6: YEAH i think, that you know you, OVERALL i just

1176
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,399
Speaker 6: want to see these guys go out there and move

1177
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 6: and you, know LIKE i certain, positions you look for certain.

1178
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 6: Things BUT i love watching these guys go back to

1179
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 6: back to back because you.

1180
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 7: Have an immediate reference.

1181
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 6: Point so like offensive Line Spencer, Fano Monroe, freeling they're

1182
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 6: gonna be working out almost back to, back so you

1183
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 6: have an immediate frame of reference Of, okay well he

1184
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 6: does this well and he's a little bit better at,

1185
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 6: that and you, know how does that translate to the

1186
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 6: football field is a different. Question but just for understanding

1187
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 6: the athlete it's really helpful to be sitting on the

1188
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 6: sidelines and watching them go through these.

1189
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 3: Drills it's great. Stuff we love The. Athletic talk To bruce.

1190
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 3: Earlier Daniel popper is one of our. Favorites talk to

1191
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 3: him all the. Time Dang, brewler you got The beast

1192
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 3: coming out In, april so for a, minute it's worth

1193
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 3: subscribing To The athletic just for, that.

1194
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: Man we really appreciate. It, well thank, you. GUYS i appreciate.

1195
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,280
Speaker 1: You dan, well, buddy another productive.

1196
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 2: Podcast trying to give folks as many opinions as possible

1197
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 2: so they can maybe form their own.

1198
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: Opinion.

1199
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 3: Yeah look we said it at the end of the

1200
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 3: conversation there With dane and The beast is. Great you,

1201
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 3: know you're talking about four hundred players and he's getting

1202
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 3: into you, know fifth and sixth round, possibilities and when

1203
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 3: you think about The, chargers like that's the one thing

1204
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 3: that's not just lip. SERVICE i mean you are talking

1205
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 3: about fifth and.

1206
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 1: Six R.

1207
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 3: J mickens and Tar Heap still and Cam hart and

1208
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 3: all of these, guys you, Know aronde and the. Fifth

1209
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 3: georgie's talking to us about the excitement Around, Branson taylor

1210
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 3: and kind of what he was able to do in

1211
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 3: That denver game is they use him as a developmental.

1212
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 3: Player so you, know it's kind of why we get

1213
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 3: a little bit deep and there's some names that maybe

1214
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 3: aren't going to be all that familiar, with but very

1215
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 3: exciting to chat with someone Like dane that's got that

1216
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 3: sort of knowledge that can go five six hundred players

1217
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 3: deep and sort of project oh, yeah this could be

1218
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 3: something you might be thinking about in the later rounds

1219
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 3: because we know those. PLAYERS i, mean r jmckens certainly

1220
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:40,959
Speaker 3: made an impact on this, team no question about.

1221
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 2: It, yeah and you know a guy Like Field yates

1222
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 2: who's going to join us in our next. Podcast you

1223
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 2: get you Get DJ's, Perspective dane's, perspective And field, perspective

1224
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 2: and they all kind of do the same thing but

1225
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 2: may have a different spin on. It so it's been

1226
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 2: fun here at The. Combine day three in the books for,

1227
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 2: Money I'm. Chris it's Been Chargers weekly presented By. Spiltero

1228
00:53:58,680 --> 00:53:59,440
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1229
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:04,840
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